EIYUDEN CHRONICLE : 100 HEROES brought me back to JRPGs

[@Soumein]

I'm too old to go onto every Backlogs video and post "Magical Cutie Missile!" on every one.

[@TheBacklogs]

An effort was made.

[@spectreshot8536]

I'm here 2 months later. I got this, my friends.

[@spectreshot8536]

I got back to DS1 miracles. I will continue my endeavor tomorrow, as I want to watch this video and sleep, as I work tomorrow. Your efforts will live on.

[@kimbrolyy]

Dude I love that you're branching out and getting through your actual backlog. I am obsessed with Fromsoft games like many, but I love that you're showing so many other cool games

[@warwick9584]

The mole boss has indeed a way to know where he would be, while he spin to burrow in the sand, he will take a angle toward where he will go. So if he is to the left, jump and look toward the right, he will be to the right, i saw that hint the second time he jumped.

[@vonpotatostein]

thank you so much Lemon!!! I didn't know about this game and from what you say it seems awesome! I love to see this resurgence of turn based RPG games! I got hooked to them since Final Fantasy 1!!! gotta try this one out for sure!!

[@MellowDoom]

You know there's just something about your voice that always brings me back to your video. You could pribably post anything and id tune in just to listen.

[@ARCEUS493ZELDA]

lemon ASMR when amirite? XD

[@phillipk4196]

he does sound pretty damn chill, that and lemon does work his humor to the theme of his video instead of forcing the theme to fit a joke into it.

[@udin9411]

i absolutly sign that one... you should do audio books

[@UstraMage]

Kickstartered this and got mine a couple weeks ago. So much fun!

[@louisharkna9464]

As someone who put hundreds of hours into the first two Suikoden games, I'm truly looking forward to a modern spiritual successor of games already ahead of their time!

[@Jackanape27]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought of Suikoden when this game came up. 👍

[@servien9683]

Been watching a streamer friend play this and it's fantastic! Excited to see what you have to say!

[@argerrosteele8930]

I figured out the mole boss's tell. While wearing headphones the audio has drums crash on the side the mole is going to pop up on. Its a sublt difference but you can listen for it.

[@arandomperson1377]

Glad I decided to check in the comments section when im in the middle of the boss fight. Thank you

[@randomguywithamentalillness]

They also made a quest based game in the world of eiyuden chronicle, with the extra development money, it is pretty good, it’s on both Xbox game pass and PlayStation +, it’s not turn based, it side by side action with combos, it’s about 4-10 hours to finish, check it out when you guys get a chance. It’s called Eiyuden Chronicle Rising Edit I made this comment while watching, so I didn’t see that he brought up rising at the end

[@bigorange2082]

So far I’m loving it. I just started it, but I’m really enjoying it right now.

[@dragonmaster1500]

Honestly, I'm a little split. I was interested in Eiyuden Chronicles, but I've heard some things about questionable changes to the English translation. Based on Leamon's review though, I may still pick this up. Especially since it seems to have a such a heavy focus on story and worldbuilding, which is just the thing I've been looking for now that I've finally caught up with the Trails series. Speaking of JRPG's Lemon, have you ever played the Xenoblade games from Monolithsoft? Some of the best JRPGs I've played in the last decade, with some of the best stories, main characters and villains, combat is pretty fun too. I also highly recommend Nihon Falcom's The Legend of Heroes: Trails series if you like the deep character, worldbuilding and story stuff.

[@Worgen33]

You can ignore the people whining about the english translation. There is like 3 lines in the whole game that are a bit weird, everything else is standard jrpg to golden in terms of quality. For some reason Eiyuden Chronicals ended up on gamer gate 2.0s shit list and its really just those people whining and moaning.

[@CampGareth]

Xenoblade chronicles 2 is something my partner and I quote often. Such a goofy, charming read on the combat dialogue. "Yer DUN?!" "Think you can take me?" "Don't forget me :(" "meh meh meh! >:("

[@kyruken6740]

cant wait to watch this later, absolutely adore jrpgs

[@tempq1633]

Game looks hella exciting!! Can't wait to play it! Great video 👍

[@johnmoore8161]

Said this at the announcement of the premiere, but I am so glad that you picked up the game and enjoyed it. If you want you should also try out the prelude game Rising. If you end up doing everything from side missions to base expansion then you can actually transfer it over. From what ive seen there isnt much of a difference except in one area and maybe a little dialogue but if you dont mind the switch from jrpg to metoidvania and back then it is a great experience. Also it's a much shorter game so it is definitely a great hook for the story leaving you wanting more.

[@TheBacklogs]

Played it on release, actually! Even did a video :)

[@cvrlo_]

I must say, as someone who has spend his entire childhood playing Suikoden Games, this game is truly born from it. I know this game is not for everyone but I absolutely love it. I know a lot of gamers like to rush stuff but these games are the types, like what lemon said, you need to slowdown and just immerse yourself to the story. I really hope people give this game a shot. If you have played this game and want more, I suggest you guys play other Suikoden Games. Suikoden 1 and 2 will have a remaster next year available in Steam as well so that is something I look forward too. All in all I hope Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes don't stop from here.

[@ashelorax9318]

Asking someone who loves jrpgs and then giving him a world filled with all the things he wants and a pretty honest review I'll definitely wanna buy it 😂😂

[@bisdakaraokeatbp]

Just waited for sale and finally can biy and play this game! Been a suikoden fan for a long time.

[@Kayser123channel]

I just finished it with 100% recruitment, and OMG the game is fucking good if you love Suikoden. This game is a love letter to Suikoden 2.

[@fredclasson7865]

Do you have any ideas on fun builds for the characters? I feel like I need something like that in when playing JRPGs these days.

[@joe_the_zombie]

Pretty excited to get this game, just finished a 100% run of rising, and enjoyed it a lot

[@Meatful]

I always like seeing new games on your page

[@meatbeaterthe3d205]

Always a bright day when the armored citrus fella blesses with an upload

[@basilnottheherb]

got through the first 10 hours and man i cant help but agree. i LOVE the slow but good pace. love rptgs that take thier time getting me invrestged.

[@BetaNights]

Oooooh, nice!! Admittedly, between FFVII Rebirth, my Pokemon Emerald Nuzlocke, Witcher 3, and the upcoming Paper Mario TTYD Remake... I'm a little full up on RPGs at the moment. But I've always heard good things about Eiyuden Chronicle, and it always seemed like something up my alley. And with your genuine enjoyment of it here, Lemon... Suffice to say, it's bumped itself up a bit on my list of things to play. Plus, on top of all that, I already love JRPGs to bits, and I'm an absolute sucker for the 2D-characters-in-3D-worlds style that's popped up with games like this, Octopath Traveler, etc. It just has so much charm...

[@DamnDaimen]

Ooooh. Emerald is a tough nuzlocke. Also, have you heard of the moemon mod? Turns all of the pokemon in firered/emerald into girls doing cosplay. Good for memes.

[@kaldurak]

the turn based combat game that hooked me forever ago was Shining Force - fell in love

[@planescaped]

As a big fan of Suikoden, specifically 2 and 5, it's good to see a spiritual successor to it.

[@TheFreestylebeast]

3 and 4 was my favorite

[@ballroomscott]

It makes me unreasonably happy to see someone mention 5 instead of always talking about 1 and 2. Suikoden 5 is one of my favorite games of all time.

[@ChiyuStar]

@@ballroomscott Three months after you commented that, but I feel the same! And while 2 is a masterpiece, 5 will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@jlhutchison91]

I just started this game. There is a LOT of story

[@goreobsessed2308]

It's a jrpg just skip it

[@zeroanimation3956]

JRPG is all about story

[@flyinglobster9552]

@@goreobsessed2308that kind of defeats the point of a jrpg

[@lennoxtime]

Reminds me of Sukoden! I wish they'd relaunch that series...

[@TheBacklogs]

Same creator, actually!

[@mominmubeen4524]

Awesome video! Is there any chance you could do one with a holy run or moonlight greatsword run in one of the souls game with the character lore narrative you do in your vids? That would be a really awesome to see, especially with the narrative you did in your beast claw run that was so cool to see how you did your way of putting the story of that run in the game!

[@josephboben5471]

Been wondering about this one glad you covered it

[@holydezmondgamez1728]

I've been playing a ton of old and some new JRPGs like ffx, Wild Arms, the previous game of this sequel, Tales games, Scarlet Nexus, and the Mana series. Honestly can't wait to play this one

[@j.mn.a509]

That title reminds me a lot of the Trals series those games make a super good job at making a real world with lots of npc dialogues that are fun and are constantly updated witht the events of the story both your party or important npcs and minor ones aswell as a lot of care put into the world, seeing how eiyuuden chronicles handles it similarly makes me happy

[@tokleb]

To be fair I liked Trails more when they had less main characters and more Interactions between them and the NPCs so I am a bit worried about this game having 100.

[@kleberson777]

​@@toklebthis game has ton of playable character but that doesnt mean all of them is the main character. Beside this game is about war, so it make sense that a lot of character join your party

[@terragamer7142]

Have you ever played the original DOOM? When it was first released the first chapter was free, so did you get yourself a free copy of DOOM back in 1993?

[@markkreske5637]

I'm excited to see how the story plays out. I truly enjoyed the previous game and bought this day one but haven't had the time to play it. Seems that some people are unhappy with dialogue choices, but some people just tend to hate. Loving the content!

[@Dad2Kids]

Play Rebirth and stop after 3 to 4 hours. But when playing this game I play it from morning till sleep. I eat in front of my monitor. Dang addicted to this game.

[@thefool94]

Wow this looks really good but I've never heard of it. Thank you so much for showing us 😮

[@Im_Tired4160]

I honestly don't care how boring the video might be, as soon as I hear Lemons voice, I'm instantly hooked. Keep up the good work.

[@goten3268]

1:15 YOU LIKE FIRE EMBLEM? THTAS AWESOME

[@scifimisc9191]

Reading the steam reviews left me feeling super mixed. Game outlets are worthless so that leaves youtube. Very surprised and very happy to see that you had done a review! Ive like got you sorted in my brain as a souls/xcom game guy, it was cool to see this be like the second result that popped up

[@TheBasedBoiOG]

Currently 30 hours in and this games awesome. Reminds me alot of the old final fantasy and lotr games i could never get the hang of 😂

[@zoro4661WasTaken]

Props to them for actually allowing you to give proper criticism. There are no doubt many game sponsors who would want you to only and exclusively say positive things.

[@irongamer5762]

Just got the game, played for like an hour before coming back. definitely worth it if you like the story of games.

[@Dinivas]

just installed it, will play tomorrow :)

[@highadmiralbittenfield9689]

Lemon, have you ever played Trails in the Sky? Its an excellent series of JRPGs that hit all the right notes.

[@maxschwitzer9390]

I knew having this mamy heroes sounded familiar. Though i havent played it, ive heard a little bit about a series called Suikoden through speedrunning. With this game being led by Suikoden series creator Yoshitaka Murayama and called a spiritual successor, it seems like a good way for me to try that out!

[@aimz210]

Radiata stories had a better recruitment system in my opinion with 170 npcs between 2 branching paths of the story. That game severely needs a sequel or remake.

[@euclidYT]

If you're looking for some other old JRPGS Lemon, you might enjoy some of the old SMT's or even the newer ones. The combat especially in the newer SMT games is pretty unique all things considered.

[@theAshesofDecember1]

You should try unicorn overlord. Very fun game with deep mechanics

[@Howduu12]

Hey Lemon loves the videos and I’ve been watching for a longgggggg time. I was wondering if you have “Fear and Hunger” somewhere in the backlogs!

[@LotteLattes]

I normally hate games with a non customizable lead (mostly cause i hate playing as a guy) but this game looks so good i might go for it anyway

[@RicardoRodriguez-ym6yr]

Star ocean will always be my fav jrpg series

[@King_Isopod]

have you checked out octopath traveler? it's the gold mine of jrpg. personally i liked part 2 more

[@Namorat]

The gimmick with the RNG: As you said, it does not feel great, at all, but it seems way better than having a characters dealing five times more damage just like that. This way it is simply a risk/reward decision and I am fine with that. The death throes of the enemies. It only happened when fighting the soldiers of the Galdean Empire but it was admittedly strange.

[@steav1478]

Love to see you doing some thing different loved it and can't wat to see if you do hallow night

[@kevina.3373]

Finally, a review that discusses the mechanics. Although some of the game's features are pretty questionable: shop economy, fishing, army combat

[@Kritaose]

Hey Lemon! I'm sure someone else has said this, but that Mole boss where you have to pick the grimoires- There didn't appear to be a tell per se, but while playing I did notice that the pattern was 3 turns per side. So your first turn or two might be a gamble but once you can set a prediction it becomes more trivial.

[@Bathios13579]

Do you have any comments on the localization? I've been looking through the reviews and that is a point that comes up a lot about this game.

[@TheBacklogs]

Honestly, after looking at what people are upset about...I don't get it. Unless I've missed something, there's only a few lines that were changed in a 60 hour epic story. And not story-changing important lines, just one-off statements. I dunno. The dialogue felt normal enough to me, to the point that I didn't even know localization was a thing when I played the game. So unless I've missed something major, I think this might be a case of someone overreacting and the media following suit 🤷‍♂️

[@tubey84]

@@TheBacklogs Hi mate. The issue is the translation has been done by someone who has inserted their politics into it (is on record as saying so in the past that is their aim) - it wasn't just a few lines, it has butchered entire characters by making one in particular come across as childish etc. This isn't just a few overreacting; the end result of this translation is vandalism of the developers work. The translation itself, overall, is awful; there's numerous mistakes even if you discount the 'political' ones. I commented yesterday with genuine disappointment at seeing this video being paid for and glossing over this. If you honestly just had no awareness, that's actually fantastic as I love this channel - but please look it up and consider that it's not an overreaction and it's people who are genuine massive Suikoden fans who have looked forward to this game for years and seen a handful of people decimate it for selfish reasons. zakogdo on Twitter has a run down of the most egregious of the changes if you want to research; if not, all good, but I thought I'd give you a proper answer.

[@slopstink]

@@tubey84 damn politics! better to go play some classics that aren't political at all, instead. like final fantasy. no, wait, that's not right. like suikoden! no, that's definitely incorrect. huh.

[@HighShamanMoses]

BACKLOGS ME BOY - I have 2 JRPG recommendations just for you to play in general - video or not from one enjoyer of games to another. The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel is pretty good - it has a lot of games (ive only played 1 and like half or 3/4ths of 2 lol) and then Ys 8 which is one of my favorite JRPGs of all time, makes me cry every time i play the game

[@HighShamanMoses]

also thank you for this video - ive been waiting to try this game and now i definitely will try it

[@xxlincxx5124]

Know it’s a good day when you get the video upload noti on discord

[@a-fletcher]

Honestly looks like a great game, and I think it will be something I definitely buy in the future.

[@discgolfwes]

this looks right up my alley!

[@jonathynmurray4890]

I'd downloaded this game but havent tried it yet though i guess now i will!!

[@bigorange2082]

I hated that book boss fight. I thought I figured out that it disappeared into the ground next to the book to strike next but the pattern didn’t work. I’m just happy I beat him.

[@connorberger9614]

Two minutes in, and I've decided not to watch this video. Not because it is bad or doesn't interest me, it's because I am interested. In those two minutes you've intrigued me enough that I'd like to experience the story myself. I'll leave a like for now, and finish the video after I complete the game. Good job Lemon-Chan

[@naniwhat3175]

Citrus guy is playing a JRPG not a souls like? My Day is better now

[@lukaszzylik4437]

Can anyone tell me how Speed works in the game? I've equipped characters to try to get them to attack in a certain order according to SPD but it doesn't work at all. For instance i got Milana's SPD up to 199, the highest in my party however she still attacks third in line. Does anyone know what else effects turn order? Game is fantastic BTW.

[@Onebadterran]

My favorite jrpg is fire emblem three houses. Amazing story and solid gameplay

[@wiliyantoadinata9170]

Idk why , i missed that "Schtolteheim Reinbach " vibe hero 😅😊😊😂😂 ... dev shd include that name to the castle names generator

[@alexey_chekhovich]

Have you tried playing Wartales? Cause it seems that there are plenty options to play it as a firebomb academy professor.

[@jasonphone11]

HOMIE GOT A SPONSORED GAME! LETS GOOOOO!!!

[@Galax94cz]

As someone who always was, am and will be JRPG fan I went into Eiyuden expecting to enjoy it a lot, sadly personally I can't say the game is for me, I tried it for quite few hours but it just did not grip me, and it's not about slow start or anything like that that some people claim for it (I mean, hell, my favorite game series is Trails and that takes you on wild ride of several arcs and big story in background that gets resolved after 10 games in the series, so no, it's not about me not having patience) I dunno, maybe if I went deeper it would get better but if it didn't grip me in the time I gave it I don't think I can stick with it, it definitely has its charm and I tip my hat for them actually sticking to the 100 heroes monicker, the characters were (Generally) charming, but yea, personally not my thing, which is kinda sad

[@donovanfaust3227]

So you play lots of JRPGs, do you have any idea what he's rambling about in the intro? It honestly just feels like a sales pitch to me with him saying "JRPGs used to have this 'raw' feeling to them that modern JRPGs don't capture anymore, but this one that I'm getting paid to talk about totally does capture that vague feeling". Is there like an era thing I'm missing, or like a silver, gold, modern age thing he's talking about? Do you know what he might be talking about with that "raw" feeling to them?

[@Galax94cz]

@@donovanfaust3227 The best I can interpret what he might mean is that older JRPGs used to be far more to the point and focused Take Persona for example, there is no denying that Persona 5 is great game and so is the recent Persona 3 remaster, however the OG Persona 3/P3FES had far more direct approach to things, it was more streamlined and there was not so much 'fluff' to it, like in Persona 5 you got billion side activities and minigames to do, where in P3 the most out of the ordinary thing you could've done was like... I dunno, crane game for Jack Frost doll? I can't say if that is what he means exactly but that is my best guess, and I can sorta see it too, from what I did play of Eiyuuden it was more to the point then most modern JRPGs in a sense, there were side activities and jokes as he mentions but it was small part all things considered, compared to like I mentioned Persona 5 where the side activities can easily take half your playtime

[@lordrizzimo]

The grimoire in the mole boss fight is not random. The boss will face the direction where he will show up.

[@TheBacklogs]

Is that right? Dang, wish I knew that haha

[@Edrogrimshell]

Question: is there any chance of a BG3 consumables only playthrough?

[@DamnDaimen]

I tried this game out. It turned my xbox into a space heater. Very toasty.

[@Raoul9753]

Guess its a game worth keeping an eye on when it gets a sale. Currently at 60 bucks, its a bit much...

[@alexandrosmourelatos7690]

I mean...have you played some of the classic Final Fantasy games? 7 ,9 ,10 (Not X-2 just X.....We don't talk about X-2....X-2 doesn't exist) and 12 have been some of my fav.

[@researchersiks]

I can't prove it but like, I think melon is secretly Cody from alternate history up.

[@Dad2Kids]

You should be voicing one of the character in Eiyuden Chronicle 2.

[@Primeval997]

Ya know, just gonna throw it out there for no specific reason, but… dark souls 3 has doors.. like.. shield doors.. ya know? Some might even call them door shields.. maybe..

[@A10radium]

Hey back logs i wonder if you have any tips on how to build a challenge run channel or just a channel in general yiur content inspired me to try it my self having trouble keeping views and geting likes and so on

[@TheBacklogs]

Make the videos you want to make (don't chase views or trends), and just keep pumping out videos so the algorithm can understand what kind of content you're making. KZbin can't really recommend you if you only have a few videos, so you just have to keep at it!

[@A10radium]

@@TheBacklogs that actually helps a lot thank u

[@LiteralBeans]

God I love this channel

[@andreesmanhotto1378]

I gotta ask you to play Outward, Lemon! It's a flawed gem, but a gem nonetheless.

[@bigorange2082]

I adore Francesca. 😂

[@SinHurr]

My child, let me sing you the song of Star Ocean

[@Jonthekiller9]

Curse you lemon! This game is on my wish list so I can’t watch the video until I’ve played it

[@danielhuelsman76]

Does this have any relation to Suikoden?

[@TheBacklogs]

It was made by the same creator :)

[@danielhuelsman76]

@@TheBacklogs A spiritual successor, cool!

[@Dojibu]

hmm, this seems similar to the Suikoden franchise. Might have to give it a look.

[@TheBacklogs]

Same creator, actually!

[@Kalemvir1]

aaaaaaand now i want a jrpg for which i have zero time for, neat

[@deusexvesania1702]

A JRPG on this channel?! Been a while. All jokes aside, a retro JRPG that accepts modern improvements does sound interesting. Sick of retro with total tone deafness.

[@carlosgonzalezfernandez3806]

Ok, but are there firebombs???

[@TheBacklogs]

There's a character who throws entire handfuls of bombs every turn haha

[@ac3sw1ld2]

I have gotten to play for about half an hour my job is acting like an abusive parent with custody only letting me see my fun parent every other weekend

[@GrimGris]

Hey lemon a game to check out is unicorn overlord, it has a 7hr free demo, and is a lot of fun, plus about 60 unique classes to fight with

[@ryanhatfield8602]

You should try more modern jrpg lime persona 4 and trails of cold steel

[@lordchun6290]

No firebombs?!?!?!?!?!

[@TheBacklogs]

Don't worry, there is literally a character whose entire thing is throwing firebombs at the entire screen haha

[@SeBond12321]

ATTENTION: Don't buy this game on PS4! The loading times make it PHYSICALLY painful to play. In Detail: It takes me about 6 seconds to load into a random ecnounter and then it takes roughly 10 seconds to return to the exploration screen. Every. Single. Time. And this game is truly honouring the golden JRPGs, meaning you will walk aorund for 10 - 25 seconds and then get jumped by an "invisible" enemy. At least in the beginning of the game, those encounters can be resolved by issuing the auto-combat command and one round of attacks. That takes betweeen 8 and 10 seconds, depending on how many special attacks are performed. At one point I got really unlucky with the encounter rng and playtime/blackscreen whrere roughly 50/50..... As a big fan of Final Fantasy, Suikoden , Wild Arms, etc. I was really enthusiastic after Lemon's video and maybe I will give it another chance on PC if my refund goes through.....

[@kaymergamer6031]

Tears of the Kingdom fire fruit only run when?

[@lenuellzelren]

is this a suikeden sucsessor?

[@TheBacklogs]

It was made by the same creator, yes. Different series, though, I don't think they're connected.

[@kahseng111]

did the Hero Combo usefully? i buy the game on day 1 find out the Hero Combo damage is too low so i refund it. is that a bug or the game really design like that ?..?

[@TheBacklogs]

It depends on the combo. Some combos hit multiple enemies, while others do specific damage types that might be stronger against certain enemies. Like any attack, it's situational, and can't be used for guaranteed big damage.

[@kahseng111]

@@TheBacklogs i see, thank

[@craigtrish2011]

@@kahseng111 What an absolutely absurd reason to refund a game. Most ridiculous thing ive heard lol

[@kahseng111]

@@craigtrish2011for me the only reason for the game is collect hero see the hero combo, if the hero combo system is usless the only reason gone T...T is better just play back Persona 5 Royal or Dragon Quest 11

[@sadiejohn7753]

I love this game, it's not for everyone. Even with all of those minor issues. Definitely the game i need simple story , light JRPG game and a none realistic jrpg. Realism in games is just killing it for me. Takes away the fantasy in them , same goes to FF7 remake . I enjoyed them but they're losing the fantasy touch . But thats just me 😊

[@emberthecatgirl8796]

Neat, but I think I’ll stick with Rising’s action gameplay. These types of turn based games always have a UI that just hurts to use.