Is There Bible Evidence for a Pre-Tribulation Rapture?

[@dannisivoccia2712]

Personally, I dislike entering into doctrinal debates such as this, because the enemy uses it to pit the brethren contrary to each other. I believe that as followers of Christ Jesus we should be less pre-tribulation rapture vs. post- tribulation rapture minded, and much more PRO-ENTERING into the narrow gate that leads to life; PRO-OVERCOMING the world, the flesh, and the devil; PRO-ENDURING till the end.

[@lotusl790]

@Dan Nisivoccia, I believe that followers of Christ Jesus should, most certainly, be with priority of focus upon and sharing with highest importance, the truth of Pre-Trib Rapture, so to encourage one another to make sure to be Rapture Ready; so to be caught up with Him before the Tribulation! This truth encompasses so very many aspects of both the Old and New Testaments. And, overall, I am of the utmost encouraged by this truth!

[@georgiosmarcou4446]

I totally agree with you!

[@dannisivoccia2712]

@@lotusl790 It is a lot wiser, and much less time consuming (Remember: "redeem the time for the days are evil."), the way prescribed in my initial comment. If we keep our complete focus on Jesus, and on what He said, concerning our everyday walk: entering into the narrow gate that leads to life; overcoming the flesh, the world, and the devil; enduring till the end---- we will most definitely be prepared for WHATEVER may come our way. It works for whether Jesus comes back before the tribulation, as well as if Jesus comes back immediately after the tribulation.

[@herbbearingseed]

So only CERTAIN scriptures are allowed to be discussed? ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable For doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. See? Not just righteousness is to be discussed.

[@dannisivoccia2712]

@@herbbearingseed Some scriptures take precedence over other scriptures at times, in the context of what may be occurring. For example, the devil tested Jesus in the wilderness by saying, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down from the pinnacle of the temple; for it is written, 'God will command His angels concerning you;; on their hands they will bear you up, so that you will not dash your foot against a stone.' Jesus replied, "On the other.hand, it is written, 'You shall not put the Lord your God to the test." Jesus' reply to the devil, in context, took precedence over what the devil had quoted to Jesus initially.

[@augustusimmanuelpauldurait9729]

This is great comfort for those are being confused or disturbed by the out of context teachings of post-tribs . Those who believe in the truth, hidden in the words but plainly revealed by the Holy Spirit , of rapture, let them get ready for coming of Jesus in the air to meet Him.

[@Jesusexplains]

TA Immanuel But only AFTER the tribulation (Matt24:29-31 KJV) Only ONE “Rapture” >>> kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZycnIl_f8ZqetE

[@Jesusexplains]

Karen Templin Amen sister!

[@chelsaa16]

As a born again believer I just wanted to commend you on your videos. They are insightful, true and easily comprehended. After watching several of them I can't help but thank the Lord God, that He cared enough for us that He gave us His Word. That He wishes for none of us to perish. Thank you sir, and thanks to our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@RiseUpUNAFRAID4614]

The time of Jacob's Trouble is for Jacob, Israel ‼️ I'm not sure why folks find that difficult.

[@aprilholton1150]

Keep in mind the word Lipsys (greek word for tribulation) and Jesus tells us we WILL have tribulation in our life. Some people will have more than others as everyone has a different spiritual journey. The bottom line is Jesus will protect us IN the tribulation, not take us OUT of it. I am so blessed to have had the Holy Spirit teach me biblical truth and not man. When I was first saved I was isolated and confused about the bible. Over time with many hours of learning and life experiences I am confident we will be here for the tribulation. Many are deceived by this and will not be prepared when it happens. I say SHAME on pastors and anyone who misrepresents the scriptures to fit their views. God bless you all to overcome till the END

[@bigcountrymountainman9740]

Technically the tribulation is only three and a half years. The latter half. The first three and a half years are pure peace

[@timshanks6729]

I have 25 scriptures that prove not only a post tribulation rapture but it is impossible for a pre tribulation rapture if the Bible is true.

[@Kman.]

For every so called "PROOF" verse you could come up with, there's even *MORE* verses to debunk e/one of them. So glad you kept 'em to y/self~:)

[@BillMenchen]

Good teaching. I've believed in the Pre Trib catching up for 40 years, and can say there is a lot of good points in this video, even a few things I never heard. References I hadn't thought about. Good job!

[@rossdaboss1959]

Isaiah 53:5, But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed. For salvation, people just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in the water and of the spirit after they believed. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled with the Holy Ghost and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is. We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritan. Our salvation has to match-up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. God told Noah exactly how to be saved, how he must build the ark. Noah didn't come up with his own plan like people are doing today. A sinner's prayer, you just have to believe, etc which is not in the bible. The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church. It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, They continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. If you believe in this message, help spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. God bless you!

[@rossdaboss1959]

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[@suzannem7418]

All the evidence I have seen in the Bible points to pre-trip rapture for me. I believe those that truly have the spirit of Christ living in them have the right discernment to see and understand what he wants us to I understand from the Bible. When I see someone that feels differently about God’s word than I do I always ask for what specific Bible verses are leading them to feel different. Some just wanna argue their position or believe without sharing or finding the Scriptures of why they would believe that. I believe we should always seek knowledge and understanding from the Bible. And thank you I do appreciate this video that you put together to share the understanding of the Bible verses that point to pre-tribulation rapture.

[@jsteele650]

Great division is in the church because believers don't see the ranks of the resurrection. There is a pretrib rapture but not all those that believe in pretrib will go in pretrib.The Philadelphian saints are the church of BROTHERLY LOVE. The bride wants all saints to be harvested with the barley company at pretrib. The bulk of the church will reject the bridal calling. Believers will go to heaven when they are ready to be harvested. The crop must be ready before it can be harvested. Barley and wheat are both grain companies that are both planted at the same time, in the autumn. Barley matures faster than wheat and is harvested in the spring. BARLEY IS THE BRIDE, and she leaves at pretrib. Wheat is harvested in the summer. Wheat is the great multitude church gathered in Rev 7..... THE VIRGINS WITHOUT NUMBER AKA THE INNUMERABLE COMPANY! The final company, caught up at midtrib, before the open door is shut, are the grapes that are gathered at midtrib. The grapes are the 144,000 Jews. The Jews finally believe Christ is their king because they gleaned the truth from the Barley and wheat companies. If there is a LAST TRUMP, there is a FIRST TRUMP. If there is a HIGH CALLING, there is a LESSER CALLING. The bridal remnant will be a joint heir as husband and wife. The bulk of the church will be only heirs as children. The barley bride is taken up in Rev 4 at pretrib, where he tells John, "COME UP HERE!". This is a very small remnant of the church that leaves at pretrib. All christians are called for this HIGH AND HEAVENLY CALLING, but few will be chosen. The bulk of the church is in a DEEP SLEEP like Adam. While Adam ( the church) slept, God was forming a bride from a rib ((TAKEN OUT OF)) Adam. This is a rib portion, a very small remnant that makes up this bridal company. The bulk of the church has spots and wrinkles in their robes that will be cleaned in the first part of the tribulation period. How do they have wrinkles in their robes? They are in a deep sleep! When you're lying down in these robes, they get wrinkled. They have spots because of false doctrines. There is a pretrib rapture, and the bulk of the church, like yourself, will reject the truth. The Lord will use this bridal remnant to speak in these last days. This remnant will be a mouthpiece unto God. She will be rejected by the church and the world before she departs. Hebrews 12:25 [25]See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: Isaiah 1:9 [9]Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. The truth will get many angry. It will be a stark contrast of things you learned your entire life! The verse about John being caught up at pretrib is only one verse, brother. The Lord has it beautifully woven from the Old to the New Testament. We will go to heaven by ranks, just as Paul said. 1 Corinthians 15:23 [23]But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. ORDER MEANS RANKS. ●●●There are 3 stories on Noah's ark for the 3 companies escaping through the open door by rank and order. Go read it! The world taught us, as a child, that the ark was loaded by 2's. The truth is they first loaded by 7's then by 2's!!! Genesis 7:2 [2]Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. ●●● When Peter had the vision of the fitted sheet with all manner of beasts inside. These are saints from the 4 corners of the earth of every nation and tongue. He saw this sheet come down THRICE....3 TIMES FOR 3 COMPANIES OF BELIEVERS!! ●●● 3 companies of people will be caught up by ranks before the middle of the week....BARLEY, WHEAT, AND GRAPES. The barley company is the ONLY COMPANY that is harvested by WINNOWING. All the remaining companies need a threshing floor of tribulation to do a finishing work before they are caught up. The wheat is CRUSHED by the tribullum board, grapes are TREAD, and olives are PRESSED on the threshing floor of tribulation. ●●● There will be 3 companies of light. He is the LIGHT, and as we take in his Word, we become light. The more we consume, the brighter we become. We decrease, and he increases! The 3 light companies are Sun glory saints, moon glory saints, and star glory saints. Those bridal sun glory saints SHINE WHILE IT IS STILL DAYTIME! Do I need to ask you when the moon and stars shine?!? The moon and star glory saints shine during the night season of tribulation. There is so much more. This is only a glimpse of what is in the Word regarding a 3 part harvest.

[@armbar1981ok]

❤ Amen

[@Pia-lm7qi]

I loved this video! I agree with every word. Well explained! I don't understand how people by reading the scriptures don't come to this conclusion, when it is so clear :) Jesus will get us out of here before the tribulation. Why would He let us His bride suffer when God's judgment falls upon mankind?

[@netsurfers9357]

Please keep in mind that the Bible specifically states after the death of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior... The rapture will happen before the tribulation period. Signs before the tribulation period: Paul’s purpose, then, in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-10 is to show these believers that they were not in the Tribulation. In v. 3, he states that two things must occur before the Tribulation can begin— (1) the “falling away,” and (2) the revelation of the man of sin (The Anti-Christ).

[@jasonsingh9464]

Amen .... God won’t let his BRIDE GET BEAT UP! Post-trib makes no sense what so ever

[@netsurfers9357]

@@jasonsingh9464 Jesus was talking about the Jews and Gentiles who did not receive him during the tribulation when they will finally receive him, then they will be Raptured near the end of the tribulation... Jesus said, blessed be those who endured to the end of the tribulation. The church who received Jesus wii be Raptured before the tribulation and won't be in the tribulation. (There are really two ratures that take place (Gentiles & Christains which make up the Church befor the tribulation) and the there is a rapture of those who receive Jesus (Jews & Gentiles) after the tribulation. This is why so many are confused. There is a Jubilee coming in September of 2021, which is also the "Feast of Trumpets"... the Bible clearly talks about a "Last Trump" and it says that the "Man of Sin" Anti-Christ will be known before the Church is raptured. Hence, let's not forget that before the tribulation is called the Church Age and near the end of that time will be "A Great Falling Away" and it will be like in the days of Noah. The Bible specifically points out "Like that of a Bride waiting on the Bridegroom, so shall this be with the Church to Jesus during the first Rapture (Pre-tribulation), because the Bible also points out that the Church will not go through the tribulation period at all (will be snatched up). Signs & Calculations 1. Israel will be green & fertile. 2. It will be just like in the days of Noah. 3. Predatory birds will gather from all corners of the earth in Isreal. 4. Jews will return to Israel. 5. Great Peace & Safety will be promised by the Anti-Christ during his first term of 3.5 years (42 mounths) www.bible-reading.com/490yrs.html 69 Weeks of Church Period + 1 week tribulation: 483 Days + 7 Days = 490 Days or 490 years. We can simplify, by knowing Jesus death (April 3rd 33 AD) - (2000 Years - 7 Years of tribulation). Let's temember that back then the Calendar only had 360 Days... Not 365. 2000x360=720,000 Days 7x360=2520 Days 720,000 / 365 = 1972.6027 Years 720,000 - 2520 =717480 365x717480 = 1965.6986 Years in today's Calendar. 33 AD Years to Days: 33 x 360 = 11880 Days 11880 / 365 = 32.5479 Years of Today. 32.5479 + 1965.6986 = 1998.2456 Years of Today from when Jesus was born minus 1 year, because there is no 0 year = 1997.2456 Hence, 2000-7=1993 + 33 -1 = 2025. Yes, we are definitely very near the Tribulation. Note: there is at least a 3.5 year difference from the 360 day to 265 day per year from what it seems throughout the whole period from when Jesus was born to the beginning of the tribulation.

[@LastDaySaintJames]

@@jasonsingh9464 -----> God won’t let his BRIDE GET BEAT UP! are you serious with this comment? Learn the true identity of the bride. The bride is a city, and that city is our mother. Revelation 21: 9-10 9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Galatians 4: 26 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

[@daniellec8675]

I love this. Thank you, Jesus, for your redeeming love. I never understood the rapture, and this explained it so well. Thank you.

[@LastDaySaintJames]

ENDURE to the END. The same shall BE SAVED. And THIS gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 24: 13-14 IF you aren't preaching THIS gospel of the kingdom, YOU are preaching the wrong gospel. ENDURE to the END. The same shall BE SAVED. It's quite clear. YOUR SALVATION depends on YOUR ENDURANCE. Isn't being a christian, to be like Christ? DID Christ get caught up before they nailed HIM to the cross? OR DID JESUS endure to the end? ARE you CHRIST - LIKE or anti-christ? ENDURE to the END. The same shall BE SAVED.

[@andreag7701]

Thank you.💕 I had a dream of Jesus & myself fighting these dark figures on black horses. Jesus and I were on white horses. He was wearing a white robe with a red sash. It was beautiful.

[@teraquewel]

I agree with the pre tribulation rapture. Scripture supports this 💯 %

[@paperparables]

Jesus tells us to persevere and remain standing for a reason. While won’t go through the great tribulation, Jesus does promise us that we’ll go through tribulation and persecution in the last days (Matthew 24). Please, there’s a channel called “We Are Jesus Doers” that has many biblical studies on the matter and teaches us to search the word for ourselves under the Holy Spirit’s guidance. There will be many false doctrines in the last days and we all have a responsibility to seek the truth in Jesus.

[@herbprophet]

1st verse you quoted: 1 Thessalonians clearly says those who are *ALIVE AND REMAIN* are caught up to meet the Lord...as in alive and remain from the tribulation period. 2nd verse you *misquoted* Revelation 20:4 you only quoted "They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years." You cut out 90% of that verse...what the heck? Revelation 20:4 really says "I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years." It's talking about those who *DIE* for Christ and don't receive the mark of the beast. It says they are most blessed(They were not raptured but are the most blessed?) 3rd verse "We are not appointed to God's wrath" Matthew 24:9 says ""Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me." Dying for Christ is what a lot of Christians will be faced with in the tribulation period. Dying as a martyr for Christ is *NOT* "God's Wrath" God's Wrath is the Lake Of Fire at Judgement....That is the wrath we as believer's are not appointed to. The 4th verse you use *part of* "Hide us from the wrath of the Lamb" to prove the tribulation is God's wrath is taken out of context. You have to read before and after a verse to understand context. That verse is the wicked fearing the Lord when He returns crying out for the mountains to fall on them and hide them from His wrath. That is *NOT* describing the overall entire tribulation period. You are being very deceptive the way you are only half quoting scripture. I'm not even going to watch this demonic garbage any longer.

[@RestlessMonarch]

Why is this demonic

[@herbbearingseed]

@@RestlessMonarch Because preaching a verseless doctrine is devilish. There is no pre-trib rapture verse and you know it!

[@masonwright7700]

No

[@masonwright7700]

herbbearingseed shutup

[@masonwright7700]

polo polo now

[@nateburrage]

Million dollar question can be proven in 3 verses, However people are so fixated you can show them the truth and yet they refuse it! Proof Where is Jesus right now? Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the RIGHT HAND of God; How long will He be there? Hebrews 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. When is His enemies are made a footstool? Psalms 110:5 The Lord at thy RIGHT HAND shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath. The English word remain is in the new test. 12 times but in Greek the word in this verse is only used twice 1Thess 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain G4035 unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. remain G4035 = survive 1Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain G4035 shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Most peoples response We aren't appointed to wrath so we won't be here Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. Job 14:13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! Passover means Pass Over Exo 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt. Gather ye together *first the tares Matt 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together *first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. 2Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away(Job14:12) with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Why would Jesus be referred to like a thief? That's not good... A thief takes something that is NOT his! People outside the New Jerusalem during the 1,000 years Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. We will be over those people as kings and priests Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. but after the 1,000 years Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Nutshell of time 1) Time we live in 2) 7 final years with 3.5 years great trib 3) 1 - 75 days after the trib (Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation & Dan 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the 1,335 days) 4) 1,000 years 5 ) after the 1,000 years (Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,) 6) Eternity Praise God our Father!!!

[@JesusisLord4ever.]

people won't like follow the bible but rather the teachings of other pastors or friends, but in scripture, it's clear first falling away and then antichrist will come, and we won't be raptured before the great tribulation the verse we r not appointed into wrath is not talking about the wrath of the tribulation but it's about the wrath in hell /eternal damnation in hell.

[@cruddddddddddddddd]

Good stuff, sir!

[@rossdaboss1959]

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[@hiramserna5035]

Many things here are taken out of context to fulfill you're view.

[@rzrlife6036]

@@hiramserna5035 Thank you for your reply. Without my context, look at Jesus context! The Parable of the Weeds Matt 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. The Parable of the Weeds Explained Mat 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[@jesusmyeverything.4359]

The Best Explanation Ever...Enjoy The Grace Of JESUS Sir.

[@raiezy]

I asked God to show me the truth about this issue, I found this video......not a coincidence

[@malusishabalala3679]

Isaac Glory to God

[@aalewisiii]

This video isn’t right about anything. Read Matthew 24 and then compare it to Revelation 6 and 7

[@sandilla007agent7]

god might answered you not God

[@aalewisiii]

Sandilla007 agent huh? Please elaborate.

[@sandilla007agent7]

@@aalewisiii you are correct this video is not correct. god of this world can do miracles like God. god can answer petitions. Like the word of God says, if any man or angel speaks not in line with the word(bible) he is not holy/divine sent.

[@fireballxl-5748]

At this point I say i really appreciate this channel and many of it's subscribers using the genuine bible and not a counterfeit to tickle their ears. Very impressive the dedication to God's word(s).

[@matthew4177]

You know what, rather before or after the most important thing is being saved following him and being ready for the event. Amen

[@trulyso734]

And to get to be one of the Christ righteous saints taken to glory beforehand (without seeing death) GOD WILLING via Rev 3:10, (meaning those who precede us in death first are the many martyrs from the past?), Then the church ecclesia/body needs to get ready asap by looking inward to shape up as His bride without spot or blemish.. ie to fit as the kind of church He is after (by doing what is required of her as covered by Rev 1- 2 of His inspections). Maranatha

[@ianbetts4435]

Its like the tribulation has started with the coronavirus but the church is still here. The public who think this is bad are going to have heart failure when the tribulation hits them.

[@TheBibleExplained]

Sad, but true. Can you imagine?

[@Mike65809]

The Spanish flu was a real killer, yet the church was here for that too. If we have to dwell in God's secret place now to be safe, why not later on when the plagues of Revelation begin?

[@isabellepersic5918]

this ";coronavirus" has been around for decades...it's the same flu/influenza that people have been getting for years...don't listen to regular media...they have been told by the powers that be to lie and make this out more than it really is....look into the Stanford University Study on this....they found that the mortality rate of COVID-19 is the same as coronavirus/flu....they are doing this to see how easily we're controlled and Bill Gates is involved with vaccines...they forget to tell people how many die from "coronavirus" every year in America alone...thousands...and it was found out that the CDC has been lying....a doctor has come forth stating that the CDC sent him a 7 page document telling him and probably many other doctors that when a person dies to put down on the death certificate that they died of pneumonia caused by COVID-19...we have to be careful and look into things ourselves and not always believe what we hear cause they want to create confusion and panic so people will flock to get this vaccine that is probably gonna have a micro chip in it among other nasty things...look into ID2020 which is global digital identification...satan wants to track the world and David Rockefeller said that all we need is a global crisis to bring on the NWO...looks like maybe this is happening...God bless....and don't believe everything you hear....pray to God for wisdom and discernment and courage...

[@gilov3]

When our hearts start failing us from the fear of what's going on, then you can say we have officially entered the great tribulation. But for now, I stand on my pre trib rapture belief! 🙌

[@isabellepersic5918]

@@gilov3 please watch this video on KZbin...it's called..."After the Tribulation: The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Fraud Exposed Official Movie"...there is no Scripture backing a pre-trib rapture...this is like a comfort blanket fooling people into thinking that believers aren't going through the tribulation.....God's wrath is AFTER the Millenium after He destroys all of the nations that have come against Jerusalem and it's after that that His feet touch down on the Mount of Olives...read Zechariah 14... watch this video with an open mind and heart...we must know the truth so we can prepare for it....they have guillotines and plastic coffins waiting in the wings....Christians are going to be martyred probably beheaded...the pre-trib "rapture" makes no sense....pray before you watch it and ask Yeshua to give you the truth and wisdom and discernment...God Bless

[@vee_emm_jay_ess]

When it comes to a pre-trib doctrine, I don't understand why it must be explained in a lengthy video attached to a number of series. Wouldn't it be easier to just make a one or two minute video sharing the verse(s)? I have some verses that are very easy to understand, first, if you believe God is the same yesterday, today and forever and that His word endures forever, read these passages. Proverbs 10:25 When the whirlwind passes by, the wicked is no more, But the righteous has an everlasting foundation. Proverbs 10:30 The righteous will never be removed, But the wicked will not inhabit the earth. Just by these two passages alone, you should understand what Jesus meant when He said "one will be taken, and the other left".

[@justinch81]

The Bible is quite clear. The rapture won't happen before the tribulation. 2 Thessalonians 2 says "Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and OUR GATHERING TOGETHER TO HIM... 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will NOT come unless the apostasy (falling away from the faith) COMES FIRST, and the MAN OF LAWLESSNESS is revealed, the son of destruction... 4b HE TAKES HIS SEAT IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD, displaying himself as being God." Notice this happens before "...our gathering together to Him." i.e. the Rapture. Also Matthew 24:29-31 "29 But immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And THEN the sign of THE SON OF MAN WILL APPEAR IN THE SKY, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a GREAT TRUMPET and they will GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT from the four winds, FROM ONE END OF THE SKY TO THE OTHER." Also in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 "16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the TRUMPET of God, and the dead in Christ will rise FIRST. [This is the first resurrection, see Rev 20:4-5] 17 THEN we who are alive and remain will be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER with them in the CLOUDS to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord." Revelation 20:4-5 says "...And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had NOT WORSHIPPED THE BEAST OR HIS IMAGE, and had not received the MARK on their forehead and on their hand; and they CAME TO LIFE and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection." So there are only two resurrections, the second which no one wants to be part of since this the judgment of the nonbelievers to hell. If you believe in pretribulation rapture your saying there are three resurrections and the Bible is clear that there are only two. It breaks my heart to see anyone caught unaware and unprepared for the coming tribulation. One final point, 1 Thessolonians 5:9 “For God has not destined us for wrath…” just like the Jews in Exodus witnessed the plagues but didn’t suffer them, likewise we shall witness the judgments in the tribulation and likely not suffer them. All Bible verses are NASB translation. All capitalized words are my way of highlighting key points. I encourage you to study this further and pray about it. God Bless.

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

Chapman family said “"Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and OUR GATHERING TOGETHER TO HIM... 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will NOT come unless…” That is not what Paul said. He said that he was writing to support the Rapture (the Lord’s appearing and our gathering to him) so they not fear as though the day of Christ had come because it cannot unless the apostasy comes first and the man of sin manifest. But he cannot manifest until the one restraining him arises out of the midst. Now, why do you believe that Paul would jump to the conclusion that they needed a timeline to support the Rapture doctrine after hearing that they thought the day of Christ had come? And since you are post-trib, I should also ask why you believe Paul gave them a timeline without the Rapture on it to support the Rapture?

[@stevewagner2282]

This is the best explanation I have heard yet. Thank you!

[@user-xk2yr5ct7d]

I too believe in pre-rapture-I am not saying that we are not sinners but I believe God will call those who live their best for him to be raptured before the tribulation as He saved Noah and his family from His wrath, God shows mercy to those who are His people.

[@romycruz7303]

There is only One FUTURE coming not two. And this is the SECOND COMING.

[@neelsprinsloo371]

This is the best teaching on Pre Tribe Rapture. Answered all my questions and doubts and gave scripture for evidence. Brilliant.

[@squirreljones3595]

John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times, what Bible verse proves Jesus got the Last day wrong by 1,007 years Daniel 12 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt

[@squirreljones3595]

John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times, please consider the Last day It seems like you think there's 1,007 years after the day Jesus calls the last day

[@rickywalker3154]

@@squirreljones3595 This is also called "The Day of the Lord" in other places in the bible. Look it up and see for yourself.

[@WttsRayK-sw3mu]

The fallen away isn't about the church being raptured, unless i missed heard if you continue reading when he is takened out which is the Holy Spirit in the church is restraining the antichrist from coming out. Verse 6,7 Paul explains this.

[@dalebrownsr3561]

Thank you for this video I was having a real hard time putting pre-rapture with the second coming of Christ it wasn't making total sense to me but seeing it in the light that you presented to me I Now understand that there are two destination one for the Gentile and one for the Jewish Nation and this brings light to what I have been believing God bless you and your ministry

[@jesusistheanswer2074]

Wow I have never had it said so concise. Thank you, I couldn't figure out why so many people believe in the rapture. God bless

[@bernicefomunung9547]

People that believe in a post tribulation rapture haven’t trusted in the great love Jesus has for us. It is sad they’re missing out on the great comfort of this blessed hope. The church is the bride of Christ, children of God and won’t endure the wrath of God. Jesus already did this on the cross.

[@pristinepersians]

Tribulation is not wrath. Pretrib was never taught in the original church, so that should be our first clue. John Darby made this up around 1830. C'mon 😂

[@Cuvoastoh6321]

​@@pristinepersians John 14:1-3 1 Let not your heart be troubled, you believe in God believe also in me. 2, In my Father's house are many mansions, if it were not so I would have told you, I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU 3 AND IF I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU I WILL COME AGAIN AND RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF THAT WHERE I AM YOU MAY BE ALSO.

[@WaimakBibleChapel]

Another great teaching video we will use this in next weeks Monday night service

[@leonardol2051]

Referring to Jacob’s trouble who are the Israelites, Jesus himself says that true Israelites are those who have Christ in their heart, not by hereditary bloodline. So it IS the church indeed, when we talk about Jacob’s trouble.

[@mr.writer2996]

Half of this debate is good from what I’ve read but to confuse the second coming with the rapture causes many of the issues. They are Distinct. Seperate events that bible study will confirm, see Chuck Missler videos for many examples of this. The rapture is a mystery that is not revealed until the New Testament. Whatever your view keep looking up as our blessed hope is Christ catching us up to be with Him. It purifies us and yes, He is preparing a place for us. Look at the picture of the Jewish wedding as well to see more on this topic. A pre trib rapture seems to dominate throughout the bible as you study, I closed my eyes to it for years until I started to study. Nice to see no hostility on these posts. No room with what we believe for that everyone has different opinions.

[@tdzenda]

You have very convincing arguments but I still have challenges (please do not regard these as antagonism): First is 2Thes 2:1-3; although you explained it in favor of a pre-tribulation rapture, it can as well be interpreted the other way. Secondly, John did not explicitly write about it in Revelations. Perhaps the Lord did not want us to preoccupy ourselves with the timing of events that are in the power of the Father alone? Perhaps, the Lord would rather have us focused more on evangelizing the world to the point of even shedding our blood, while our eyes look upward for His return? Thirdly, the Church is not mentioned in Revelations from chapters 4 till the end of the book, so that alone may not be used to justify a pre-trib rapture. Fourthly, Rev 3:10 is used to argue for pre-trib rapture, but Rev 2:10 can be argued against it if the same concept is applied. Fifthly, since the Church has suffered great tribulations since inception and God did not prevent it, what is the special idea behind the Church escaping the great tribulation, except the period is divided into the wrath of the Beast and that of the Lamb? The Church will definitely escape the wrath of the Lamb; but that of the Beast, there is apparently no reason for the Church to escape it, whether it is death by the sword, beheading, burning, torture, deprivation etc, the Church is suffering all of that till now. Right now in my country Nigeria we in the north are suffering all of that. Thus, we are more helped when we hear messages that encourage us to endure tribulation, no matter how great, as good soldiers of Christ. The question I often ask is that: is it only the Church in the West that should be shielded from great tribulation? "For thy sake are we being killed all day long"

[@dennishagans6339]

Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; *_and a cloud received him out of their sight._* Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, *_shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven._* Note: Angels were present when Christ ascended, a cloud received Jesus out of their (the disciple's sight) the men in White said that this same Jesus would come again in like manner as you have seen Him go. 1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, *_and with the trump of God:_* and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be *_caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:_* and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, *_at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,_* and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Most everyone will agree that these two sets of Scripture above are talking about the Coming of Christ for His Bride. There are some common elements noted above that can be found in what we would call parallel passages because they speak of the same things. #1. Jesus will come as He left, and as he left a cloud received Him out of their sight #2. Jesus will come with a Shout and The Trump of God, and the voice of the ArchAngel. #3. The Resurrection and Rapture are the same events. Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, *_and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven_* with power and great glory. see Rev 6:16-17 Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels *_with a great sound of a trumpet,_* and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. see 1Cor 15:52, 1Thes 4:16 Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, *_and coming in the clouds of heaven._* Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. Mar 13:26 *_And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds_* with great power and glory. Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. Eph 1:10 Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: Mat 13:27 Mar 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, *_and coming in the clouds of heaven._* Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man *_coming in a cloud_* with power and great glory. Rev 1:7 Behold, *_he cometh with clouds;_* and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. see Rev 6:16-17 Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; see Mat 24:29, Mar 13:24-25 Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. see Mat 24:29, Mar 13:24-25 Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. see Mat 24:29, Mar 13:24-25 Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. Rev 14:14 *_And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man,_* having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. Rev 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, *_crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud,_* Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. Rev 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. The scriptures are very clear that Jesus is coming in the clouds, when you see Jesus coming in the clouds it is the same event in every scripture that says Jesus comes in the clouds. Zec 14:1-19, Jude 1:14-15, Rev 19:8-21 Those are three separate accounts of the Second coming of Christ when Jesus and we come back to this Earth for the millennial reign In Zec 14:6-7 give some details of what will be seen at that time, in all three of these there is not one mention of clouds. The signs of each event are specific to each event, in the Rapture we have clouds. in the second coming there are no mention of clouds, Clouds are a very specific detail concerning the rapture. if people would just read and believe the Word of God just as it reads, then there would not be 33,000 Christian denomination, sects, cults and non-denominational churches in the world, The proof that the pre-trib rapture was a lie will come when the antichrist is revealed and makes the mark of the beast mandatory, sadly many in the pre-trib camp will think that they missed the secret rapture and satan and his helpers will be right there to put into their minds that they were not worthy to go with Jesus and now have no hope so they might as well take the mark of the beast. These people have been completely indoctrinated into the pre-trib fib and because of that and other false doctrines they hold their faith will be weak and many will listen to the lies of satan and take the mark, the (osasers) will do this because many have already said that even taking the mark will not cause them to be lost. We are now in a bit of a crisis mode, with this COVID-19 thing and all the restrictions that have been put in place, I have never seen anything like this in my 61 years. Many are the things that have escalated, famines, pestilence, war, earthquakes of stronger magnitudes everywhere, volcanos, category 5 hurricanes becoming the norm, F5 Tornados, 80,00 died last year in America from the flu. floods, tsunamis, dead fish and whales on the various shoreline, birds by the thousands falling dead to the ground, a problem with our bees, vaccines that have mercury in them and have been linked to causing autism. What else needs to happen before this so-called pre-trib takes place? it gets worse from here on out, and the pre-tribbers are off in la-la land thinking they are gone escape. with all that has happened recently where is the pre-trib that is supposed to take the Bride out before all that suffering stuff as they like to say comes? Christians are suffering just as much as the world in all that I listed and more, so where is the pre-trib rapture to take us out before all this suffering stuff? The pre-trib rapture is not coming because it is a man-made doctrine not taught in the Word of God and only taught by the cunning and precept of man.

[@masonwright7700]

No

[@ndeshihainana4915]

Does this mean that there will only be about 144 000 people taken up after the tribulation?

[@dennishagans6339]

@@ndeshihainana4915 After the catching away, there are the 144,000 sealed to go through the wrath of God and not be hurt, also the two witnesses. There is only one catching away for the bride of Christ who are alive and remain unto his coming and the dead in Christ, the 144,000 and the two witnesses are separate I try very hard to let the scriptures speak for themselves, as I do not want to add or diminish ought from Gos's Word out of my own thinking or reasoning. 1Th 4:12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing. 1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand; Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

[@dennishagans6339]

P.S. The Book of Revelation comes with two very serious warnings. Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. I love the Lord and His Word and do not want to add or take away from His Word, Those who make claims about the Book of Revelation saying this or saying that, would do well to look at those two warning and consider if what they claim, adds or takes away from that book. The jw's claim for their "faithful slaves" and other top jw's that these are the 144,000, when Revelation clearly states that the Jews from the twelve tribes are the 144,000 Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Rev 7:6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Rev 7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Rev 7:8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. the jws are saying that their top people are the 144,000 when Revelation says that they are Jews from the twelve tribes as listed. The pre-trib camp says Rev 4:1-3 is the catching away of the church, Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. Rev 4:2 *_"And immediately I was in the spirit:"_* and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. Rev 4:3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. That is not the catching away, when only John is being spoken to and only john goes up in the Spirit, his body is still on the isle of patmos. to claim that is the rapture of the church is to add into that scripture something that is not there.

[@firstnamelastname9262]

Pre tribulation rapture 📖🥳🤩❤️🎉🎊

[@sammcrae8892]

Pre-tribulation is taking a lot of criticism these days, but while it might not be true, everyone should be prepared, because it just might be correct! 🙏✝️👑✝️🙏

[@ivangodin1850]

Pre-trib dilemma? Read this: To whom was the Great Commission given? It was given to the Church. It is the Church exclusive duty to share the Gospel. Then, why does God use 2 witnesses to share the gospel? Because the Church is no longer there. Their ministry is to last 42 months. Antichrist is said to kill them in the middle if the week (3.5 years after the beginning of the tribulation). In other words, their ministry started at the beginning of the tribulation. Church was therefore taken up sometime before the beginning of the tribulation.

[@frankmerolillo3880]

Proof of A Pre trib Rapture. Pay Attention to the cloud and Cloud's Jesus appears in and With. Acts chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 Cloud. In Red Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 Jesus is coming in A Cloud the Rapture. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming With the Clouds when he comes back to the MT of Olives the second coming

[@empielouw5161]

Thank you! Very good explained! I can't wait to meet Jesus Christ in the clouds!

[@LastDaySaintJames]

When the bible says Jesus comes in the clouds, read Hebrews 12: 1 and your idea of Jesus coming in the clouds will change. True believers are clouds. Jesus comes in HIS people. Jude also uses clouds to represent people, but he is talking about the wicked.

[@walterlahaye2128]

If your church is not in the Bible, you will die in your sins. And where Christ is, you will not come!

[@sandipmahanty6846]

Very well expounded the controversial subject of when the Rapture will occur. God bless your ministry.

[@ajmittendorf]

I don't disagree with you, nor do I agree. I would prefer a pre-trib rapture, most assuredly, but I refuse to teach dogmatically that it will be so. My "fear" (for want of a better term) in that is that, if the pre-trib just happens to be erroneously preached, then those who are weak in their faith after the start of the tribulation, might be caused to fall away because of false teaching. I support both the pre-trib and the mid-trib ideas (The post-trib rapture has never made sense to me.), but I would prefer to teach the arguments for all three or at least the first two and allow for others to reach their own conclusions on this point, since it's not a salvation issue. At least, they will be making as much of an informed choice as is possible if they know the details of each stance.

[@aalewisiii]

The 7 seals aren’t God’s judgement. The 5th seal makes that clear where the souls in heaven ask when will God judge. Then in the 6th seal after the sun and moon are dark it says the day of His wrath has come. The 7th seal is God’s wrath. Tribulation is not wrath.

[@Jesusexplains]

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[@Mike65809]

Interesting points. Did you also notice that after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give it's light. Therefore, the darkening of the celestial bodies shows the tribulation is already over.

[@Jesusexplains]

Mike65809 Search the scriptures (Joel & Revelation too ) and you’ll discover the sun is darkened and moon shall not give her light both before and after the tribulation of those (1,260) days.

[@Mike65809]

@@Jesusexplains Yes, it may depend on how one defined the Great Trib.

[@aalewisiii]

In Revelation the sun and moon are darkened one time. No where in the Bible does it say this happens at the start of the tribulation. Now the great tribulation Starts at the abomination of desolation (in the middle) and lasts until the sun and moon are darkened. Please read Matthew 24 and Mark 13 in a straight line, then match them up with the 7 seal in Revelation. Draw a chart as well. The post trib pre wrath rapture fits perfectly.

[@kelvinmwongera7320]

Actually the main focus shouldn't be when that time will be coz no one knows apart from God but to be prepared & only way we can do that is by confessing Jesus as Lord & willingly receive Him (invite Him into your heart) as your personal Saviour. Trusting in Him, in His instruction & His guiding influence in your life as you walk with Him daily. As we continue to pray as in the Lord's prayer: ....Your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth as it's in heaven...

[@LastDaySaintJames]

So if I invite JESUS in my heart but REJECT the truth of the bible, HE will save me anyways? For this reason it is written, My people perish for lack of knowledge.

[@kelvinmwongera7320]

@@LastDaySaintJames I didn't say that, I clearly mentioned there trusting in His instruction & His guiding influence & both are found in His Word (Bible) & the help of the Holy Spirit

[@LastDaySaintJames]

@@kelvinmwongera7320 I just was thinking, the gospel of salvation is, IT'S a FREE GIFT. What must we do to RECEIVE this free gift? ONLY BELIEVE? So, all i must do to receive this free gift is to "believe" God loves us, He sent His Son to die in our stead. to pay the price for ours sins, and give us a promise of eternal life, by showing us HIS victory over death, by coming back to life after being dead 3 days. Is this all I must do to receive eternal life? anything beyond believing this gospel is works, and we cannot be saved by our works. Correct?

[@kelvinmwongera7320]

@@LastDaySaintJames No problem brother. Yes, it's all by God's mercy (unmerited favour) & only way to receive it is by having faith in Jesus & not by works coz we're all sinful by nature & fall short of God's glory. That's why the gospel (good news) can be summarised in 2 phases; i) Justification- meaning we're forgiven, reconciled to God & that our sins have been put on Jesus, so that our life is covered by His righteousness ii) Sanctification- we're put in a position to be made righteous like Christ. Holiness is on offer as well as forgiveness, both by faith. So, not only are we covered by His righteousness but also that righteousness is created in us Though the 2nd phase is a life-long process by the help of the Holy Spirit. That's how I can summarise it & yes, when we believe in Jesus, humble ourselves & admit our need of God, accepting God's gift of salvation, we're justified before God because of what Jesus has done.

[@LastDaySaintJames]

@@kelvinmwongera7320 so the truth of salvation is....because we are saved from death, born again or anew to the spirit, that rebirth will produce good works., what happens when the rebirth doesn't produce good works or any works at all?

[@AverLife]

Tribulation has started. Your still here. Dispelling the Pre-Trib Myth by Knowing who the Elect of God are…! Mat.24: 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Colossians 3: 11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Confirming Post-Trib, Pre-Wrath Ascension. Revelation 11: Here we see The Two Witnesses Ascend. This is the same as 1Thess.4:16,17 (See Below), because the Dead in Christ need to rise First! 11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. Now the Wrath of God : 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. So in verse 18 we can confirm this, because it is when the rewards are given, as in Rev.22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. -------- 1Thess.4: 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

[@AverLife]

@Bruce Bronson That day' is speaking of Jesus's Return. 2Th 2:2-3 KJV - 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

[@AverLife]

@Bruce Bronson Your welcome, GBY too Brother.

[@RestlessMonarch]

@@AverLife if we were in the great tribulation wouldn't believers know for sure?

[@AverLife]

@@RestlessMonarch Major surgeries have been postponed, for a fake virus, people are losing their livelihoods, jobs, houses, rights. The healthy are quarantined, Good has become evil, and evil good. The list is so big. If we are not watching, He will come in a time when we are not looking, and cut our portion with the hypocrites. Ye can discern the weather, but not the signs of the times? So the answer to your question, would be Yes and No, depending on who's watching, and who's distracted by the worldly affairs? People will still be marrying, when He comes. Christians will still be persecuted. So we can conclude that, to most people, things we look normal, and say' all things continue as they have always done!

[@rossdaboss1959]

The tribulation has not started yet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6ewgWidp9OmaKs

[@ScottHelton]

After chapter 3 in revelation . Church isn’t mentioned. The next prothetic thing on gods calender is the rapture ( caught up, gathering together, snatched up )

[@annalee809]

Ur vids r great.

[@stephenvallomparambil8080]

Excellent.

[@quencygardner]

Brother, you've actually showed no biblical support for this position. You touched on the Olive Tree as being a representation of the Church, yet the Olive tree is presented by Paul to explain that New Testament believers (gentiles wild olive branches) were grafted into an already existing group (the church), partaking of the "root & fatness" of the original Olive tree. This is consistent with what Jesus stated, "other sheep I have ... them I must bring ... and there shall be one Fold." The book of Ephesians continues that concept of Jesus making the two to become "one new man." We wrongly assume this book to be reflective of New Testament Jew & Gentiles yet in truth it is portraying the unified Body of Christ which includes Abraham and such elders which obtained a good report. "If yet be Christ's then are you Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. We do not replace Israel as God's chosen people but are grafted into this body of believers. I would be glad to communicate with you and can be contacted at [[e-mail]}.

[@TheBibleExplained]

I don't believe that I said that olive trees represented the church. I did make the point from Romans 11 that the Gentiles have been "grafted in" to the blessings of God for Israel which of course is a reference to the church but I would certainly not hold the position that olive trees in Scripture represent the church. In fact I see no support for that idea at all.

[@brigitteludwig4572]

Yes. Pretribulation. Whey? Becouse the Kings AND PRIESTS ARE IN HEVEAN BEFORE YESCHUA OPENS THE SEALS

[@RandyHall-gx9xi]

I'm confused? In the video "Is There Bible Evidence for a Pre-Tribulation Rapture?" you said the falling away refers to the rapture, However in the video "II Thessalonians 2 Explained: What is the Falling Away & the Day of Christ?" you say the the falling away is the "Man of sin being revealed? Which is your preferred interpretation? I do want you to know the I also believe in the pre-tribulation rapture.

[@mondobondo49]

2nd Thessalonians 2:3 in all moden translations of the Bible decribe an apostasy or falling away BEFORE the Son of perdition is revealed. However, the Geneva Bible 1599 edition, being the first Greek to English Translation of the Bible, calls it a departing... not a departing from faith. This was an error that has many Christians confused. Google it.

[@trulyso734]

So 1599 is too modern a translation then. Maybe it should have been translated from the original hebrew instead of greek then there. In any case I doubt your reinterpretation on that. Falling away is departure From the truth or from faith in the truth (and this has even begun in a big way at present!)

[@Kman.]

@@trulyso734 In short, the word simply = a DEPARTURE, but you imply it speaks of a SPIRITUAL one, whereas the immediate & _B R O A D E R_ context reflects that is a PHYSICAL departure.

[@kenklein9228]

@@trulyso734 Exactly. And there's an excellent book on the subject called Apostacia, by Lee Brainard, who himself is a Dispensor, but understands that word to mean a spiritual falling away.

[@rhondaschaffer3680]

Love the teachings! Only thing I believe differently is that the Bible tells us that Michael is the restrainer. Daniel 10:21 “there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Micheal your Prince. holdeth=Chazag=restrains Thess 2:6 and 2:7 letteth=Katecho=let,hold, withhold, holdeth, or withhold.

[@Elvengem]

the last day and last trumpet are two events for two returns of Christ,and people confuse the two as one event. But the evidence shows a pretrib escape from wrath including the jewish customary wedding feast of 7 days in the groom's house,showing the 7 years hiding in the chambers/rooms of heaven( isaiah 26:19-21,john 14:1). this following scripture also proves the rapture comes before the mid tribulation at least! :Matthew 24: 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. 15So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand),…" Ok,so then the church age preaches all the gospel and then once that is done,then Jesus mentions the mid trib abomination at the temple,and this shows the church age has first ended for its' last day',the end shall come after gospel is preached in all the world. Then comes a mention of mid trib abomination,showing a new dispensation is happening after the end has come for the church age!

[@user-lv6rd3lo7x]

Just in the air,because the Lord decend and the new heavens and earth with the new Jerusalem.Jesus Christ dont have to reign after the judgement the Bible teach HE give everything over to God,then it is just GOD.Amen.

[@leadersoftheway]

Best breakdown I've seen for pre tribulation, nice work brother!!!

[@jimmyrenos1314]

PlowsharesintoSwords haha all those pre tribe are female

[@jimmyrenos1314]

Tom Bladecki you sure are not the smartest are u..u soon will see when we are not raptured and stuck here little man

[@sonyamihaylova1433]

Many thanks for that video is really good to see it. I would like to clarify something for myself by asking some questions: 1. The rapture of the church Laodicea - the last 7th church it will be before the tribulation? 2. There is rapture during the tribulation of the 2 witnesses? 3. The persecutions, executions, murders, and jails of Christians during the tribulations are in fact provided for the Jews and the people who will accept Christ, thanks to the preaching of Him by the Jews 4. The second coming of Christ is to take the remnant which contains the Jews + turned to Christ people = Last Christians / if I can call them so/ Is that right?

[@MB777-qr2xv]

What would be your top pre-trib verses?

[@mathprofessor7541]

If Rapture is real(which I believe) it will happen 'before' the tribulation. You don't need Ph.d in theology. There are many who have different opinions I know and some even attack pre-trib believers as demon possessed. Bride will not go through God's wrath. Period.

[@trulyso734]

The thing is Tribulation just equals a Trial by definition. Wrath equals a condemnation judgement. So of course we arent destined to His wrath if we stay the course as christians. But the 2 words mean different things. I dont have phd in theology either. Just care for the truth as God teaches from His Word. Never find it easy to swallow plain regurgitations of 'knowledge' even from favourite speakers. The truth must resonate with one's spirit. Let us all go back to God's Word with close attention. Nothing wrong with being diligent in closely attending / leaning in to His voice alone. I for one dont call anyone who believes in the rapture pre,mid or post trib demon possessed. They speak without understanding who do that. Dont mind them

[@Kman.]

@@trulyso734Troll much? *SMH* The conversation isn't about "tribulation" my friend, and THAT is *"TRULY SO".*

[@realkind7273]

NEWS CONCERNING THE RAPTURE! The beheaded christians from revelation 20: 4-5 have gone through the great tribulation and take part in the first resurrection. In the rapture of 1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17 the dead in Christ will rise first,before the living will be caught up together with them. This means that the rapture can not be before the tribulation!

[@antonyblunn5925]

You assume the Tribulation is 7 Years, and Lasts the Whole End times 7 year period known as Daniel's 70th week. And you assume The Trumpets are The Tribulation. This is where you fail. They are The Wrath. No Tribulation mentioned After Revelation 7 v14.

[@lancemedlin5958]

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 says the coming and our gathering together unto him. Big difference than the day of the Lord quote this guys says. Dont let him mislead you into false doctrine.

[@alicepopps5105]

Most importantly BE READY

[@rossdaboss1959]

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[@marknatividad3423]

“Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.” ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:8‬ ‭ Brother just read up to verse 8 paul is not talking about the rapture his talking about the second coming,, when the second coming happen, Jesus will face the anti christ,,

[@lancemedlin5958]

@@marknatividad3423 2 Thessalonians 2:1 says "by the coming" & our gathering together unto Him". That's at Christ's return when we are "raptured" to Him. This day (the day He returns and collects his body) shall not come until the man of sin who exalts himself to be god sitting in the Holy temple who is given power from Satan. Who works lying wonders and signs deceiving the unrighteous because God sent out a great delusion so they would believe the lies. You can't say verse 8 is the 2nd coming but verse 1 is the rapture... Its the same event! To many refuse to see that God(father) released Satan upon Job. And according to Revelation Satan will be cast down by God's decree at the hands of Micheal the archangel at which time the 3 "woe" begin on earth. It is God(father) who is restraining iniquity on earth until he sends Satan down. Not the Holy Spirit being taken away. Remember at a minimum 144k are sealed with the Holy Spirit on earth during Jacob's trouble. So the Spirit never leaves us or the earth. It was God's(son) promise from the Father for taking Christ away. So until Christ returns to rule the Spirit will be present.

[@marknatividad3423]

@@lancemedlin5958 brother i pray you will watch this video then tell me if the rapture and second coming is the same event kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJrZm32QrZeqp8U

[@haroldhart2688]

DANIEL 12 COUNTS FROM THE SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION 1260 + 1260 = 2520 MINUS 1260 = MID-TRIB PASSOVER AND ALSO, 2520 MINUS 1290 WHICH IS PURIM EXACTLY 30 DAYS BEFORE PASSOVER AND ALSO 1335 THE BLESSED RAPTURE DATE WHICH IS 75 DAYS BEFORE THE PASSOVER. = JANUARY 26, 2028.

[@joycatlady9853]

Great video

[@user-xk2yr5ct7d]

We are born into sin-Not created into sin for God is all good and against sin-

[@tentmaker2254]

no warnings to churches you say? ever read the book of revelation... written to 7 churches

[@rossdaboss1959]

Isaiah 53:5, But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed.For salvation, people just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in the water and of the spirit after they believed. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled with the Holy Ghost and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is.We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD.We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritan. Our salvation has to match-up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away.Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.God told Noah exactly how to be saved, how he must build the ark. Noah didn't come up with his own plan like people are doing today. A sinner's prayer, you just have to believe, etc which is not in the bible.The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church.It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, They continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. If you believe in this message, help spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. God bless you!

[@genebaker6964]

There is no Pre Trib rapture and you have incorrect concerning Noah. If you read the entire account on the day they closed the doors to the ark the rain started. They had seven days to get the animals and everybody on board.

[@rhondajamison1747]

Very good overview, but you need to get an understanding of Right Dividing, that the letters to the Church are Acts9 thru Philemon (Paul's conversion and his commissioning) because WE ARE MYSTERY revealed, like the Rapture. The 2nd coming is Prophecy. One other thing that is ALWAYS missing in the Pre-T Rapture view is THE BEMA SEAT. No other Rapture view can answer when it happens and where. Gen.18:25.

[@Joy-sp7wq]

Jesus Christ only comes a second time, not a 2nd and a 3rd time. The church is silent because God has to deal with Israel's rejection of Christ. It is one gospel and it is not biblical to thing that the escapes. God said he would be with us and just as he protected Isreal during the pages in Egypt he can protect the church. We really need the guidance of the Holy Spirit when studying the word of God. I pray we are all lead by his wisdom and understanding as we read God's word.

[@LastDaySaintJames]

1 Thessalonians 4: 15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that """we which are alive and remain""" """unto the coming of the Lord""" shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and """the dead in Christ shall rise first:""" """Then""" """we which are alive and remain""" """shall be caught up together""" with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord HOW CAN ANY ONE DEBATE 1 THESSALONIANS 4, when it is written SO CLEARLY, """the dead in Christ shall rise first:""" """Then""" """we which are alive and remain""" < --- REPEATED, WRITTEN TWICE, """unto the coming of the Lord""" < --- REMAIN UNTIL WHEN? to the coming of the LORD """shall be caught up together""" ONLY NON-BELIEVERS omit these words --- > """we which are alive and remain""" """unto the coming of the Lord""" The rapture is at the coming of the LORD. COME ON PEOPLE, read the words written in the book, not what these non believing teachers say. THE deception in which you believe is dragging your souls to hell. GOD DOES NOT FORGIVE THE SIN OF UNBELIEF.

[@breadoflife2075]

What is your explanation of Revelation 3:10 which says these Christians would be kept from the tribulation that shall come on THE WHOLE WORLD which is not connected to John 17:15 at all. Who do you say is the manchild who is caught up in Revelation 12:5 before there is war in Heaven and Satan and his Angels are cast down?

[@Faithful_Watchman]

There is no proof of a pre-tribulation rapture, just twisted scripture to make it that way. Scripture teaches three timelines: the time past, the last days, and the latter times. On the latter timeline lies a 7-year period called the latter days. In the latter days He will pour out His Spirit once again called the Latter Rain. The Biblical positional timing of the rapture is: post-trib-pre-great-trib-pre-wrath, which comes after the Latter Rain (2nd outpouring of His Spirit) begins to fall in the latter days. The latter days is commonly referred to as Daniel's 70th Week, which is set to begin at sunset of Oct. 2, 2024 Elul 29, which begins Oct. 3 Tishri 1. Thus the latter days spans from Oct. 3, 2024 Tishri 1 - Sept. 17, 2031 Elul 29. Within this period of time a myriad of things shall occur: the Latter Rain, that tribulation that comes upon those that come out of the apostate church to receive the gospel, then great tribulation upon all those that come out of the secular world to repentance to receive the gospel, and then comes His wrath, which is reserved for the ungodly and the disobedient children. Prior to His wrath Ezekiel's War shall occur, and then the remnant Jews shall come to confess and repent and are saved, and then comes His wrath. The Rapture event comes after that tribulation that comes upon those that come out of the apostate church to receive the true gospel. These are the dead in Christ. After the dead in Christ rise and stand on their feet then we that are alive and remain (His faithful that have, do, and teach the truth, which are few in number, and are kept from and through that tribulation) shall be caught up together with them (the dead in Christ now risen) in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord (1 Thess. 4:16-17). More important than knowing how the end times unfold is knowing why it began, which has to do with the church coming to the full to believe another gospel, and deceives many to think they are something they're not, rapture ready. God is: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, the Godhead, and these Three are one.

[@frankjames1955]

ts hard to listen to what your saying with the music

[@b4its2l83]

Biblical proof that the rapture is in fact for the wicked... Psalm 37:34... Wait on the Lord, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land, when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it. Pr 2:22..But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it. Psalm 104:35... Let the sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Psalm 34:16... The face of the Lord is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth. Psalm 37:9-11... For evil doers shall be cut off, but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be, yea thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth. Psalm 37:22.... for such as be blessed if him shall inherit the earth and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off. psalm 10:30.. the righteous shall never be removed, but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth. Matt 13:41... The son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his Kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity. ( in this verse we can clearly see what our king meant when he said that one will be taken and the other left. He was talking about the wicked being removed ! ) Enoch 1:1... The words of the blessing of Enoch wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous who will be living in the day of tribulation when all of the wicked and godless are to be removed We cannot squeeze a pre tribulation rapture into the same Bible as a 1000 year millennial reign. The "saints" were indeed sent here for this time ! Want to know why ?

[@jlc2]

what music is playing at the end?

[@LovelyLadyLissett]

What the church confuses is the dead rise first as the pre rapture. Jesus said we will be here during tribulation but saved from the wrath of God.

[@trulyso734]

The Rev 3:10 escape remains the church's blessed hope. I can agree on that

[@yauheyausha2688]

Pastor, You forgot to consider the judgment of the nations in Mat 25:31-46

[@ZondyYT]

Sorry, you are wrong in nearly all points. Please read the Bible carefully.

[@LastDaySaintJames]

@Piper LT ENDURE TO THE END. The same shall BE SAVED. Matthew 24: 13-14 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this GOSPEL of the KINGDOM shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

[@adeolaorogun9008]

Besides, the tribulation saints on earth appear to be totally distinct from the Church of Christ on earth. The tribulation saints appear to lack authority over antichrist as long as they are on earth. Rev 13 says Satan was allowed to overcome saints while they were on earth. They only overcome him by their deaths due to their faith and commitment to Christ. This is different from the position of the Church of Christ on earth who has authority over Satan on earth since she is one with Christ and seated with Christ in the heavenlies. Christ has always been the head and the authority of the Church, I cannot imagine Him relinquishing that authority to Satan during the tribulation. The Church would never be subject to the power of Satan at any time in eternity because she already belongs to Christ. But the tribulation saints will....

[@Mike-qt7jp]

If you believe in a pre-trib rapture, I challenge you to read this with your Bible out. It is long, but let's see what scripture ACTUALLY says. 2nd Thessalonians 2 says, “Concerning the coming of the lord and our being gathered to Him (the rapture) …don’t let anyone deceive you. That Day of the Lord won’t come until TWO THINGS HAPPEN FIRST; the great apostasy and the man of sin is revealed.” Revelation 3:10 says, “I will keep you from the time of testing coming upon the whole earth.” Sounds like pre-trib, BUT the word translated keep above is the Greek word tereo and it means “to guard by keeping the eye upon.” It does NOT mean to protect by taking us out before the tribulation starts. The Holy Spirit knows full well when Jesus will return for His Church, and it’s already been two thousand years. How could the Holy Spirit have taught the writers of the New Testament that Jesus could come any moment, when He knows everything, including the exact date of the rapture? Nothing can possibly be imminent to God. Imminent means something COULD happen at any moment. With an all-knowing God there is no maybe, might, possibly, could, wishing, attempting, trying etc. God knows exactly when and how everything will play out, there is no guessing, only fulfilling. Some say, when Paul wrote, “we who are alive and remain shall be caught up…” it was because he believed in the imminent return of Christ. It is scripturally impossible for Paul to have written the word “we” because he thought he would be alive at the time of the rapture. He indeed may have thought such a thing, but he only wrote exactly what the Holy Spirit told him to write. 1st Peter 1:21 says “For prophecy never had its origin in the will (mind) of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” Pre-tribulationists say, John 14:3 proves a pre-trib rapture. John 14:3 says, “In my Father’s house are many mansions…and I go to prepare a place for you…I will come back and receive you unto myself that where I am you may be also.” The pre-trib view rightly says this verse proves the rapture takes the believer to heaven, and since the post-trib doesn’t, then the pre-trib must be right, BUT that only disproves post-trib. There are also partial-rapture, mid-trib rapture, and pre-wrath rapture that take the church to heaven. 2nd Thessalonians was written to assure the church that they had not yet entered the day of the Lord. Why would anyone who was taught pre-trib theology think they had entered the day of the Lord? There is only one thing that should make a pre-trib believer think he had entered the day of the Lord and that would be the disappearance of millions in the rapture. The rapture hasn’t even happened yet, so clearly there was no disappearance of millions. If, however, the church had been taught that they would be going through the tribulation period, then persecution might have caused them to be fearful that the time they had been warned about had finally arrived. Those believing in the Pre-trib say, The Holy Spirit residing in the Church is the restrainer of evil/anti-christ. No verse anywhere in the Bible even hints that the Holy Spirit residing in the Church is the restrainer of the anti-christ. And in fact, Daniel 12:1 names Michael the great prince as the restrainer. Compare Daniel 12:1 with Matthew 24:21 and you will see they are talking about the same thing; the time of great tribulation.

[@kjsfl386]

Jesus Himself said He will come back after the tribulation at the sound at the LAST trump.

[@kjsfl386]

Piper LT Matthew 24:26-31. KJV Jesus Himself was speaking.

[@rossdaboss1959]

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[@kjsfl386]

rossdaboss1959 Thank you. It gives me more to consider

[@rossdaboss1959]

@@kjsfl386 Isaiah 53:5, But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed. For salvation, people just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in the water and of the spirit after they believed. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled with the Holy Ghost and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is. We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritan. Our salvation has to match-up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. God told Noah exactly how to be saved, how he must build the ark. Noah didn't come up with his own plan like people are doing today. A sinner's prayer, you just have to believe, etc which is not in the bible. The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church. It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, They continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. If you believe in this message, help spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. God bless you!

[@rossdaboss1959]

@Piper LT Isaiah 53:5, But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes, we are healed. For salvation, people just need to follow the way they did it in Acts? They were baptized in the water and of the spirit after they believed. Here's why! The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If we are to follow him, we must do the same thing. Death= repentance, Burial = baptism, and resurrection = being filled with the Holy Ghost and rising again from the dead. That's what Acts 2:38 is. We must obey the gospel, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL of our Lord Jesus Christ... Matthew 7:21-23, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in Heaven. St John 3:3-5, EXCEPT a man be born of WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, he cannot enter into the kingdom of GOD. We can't come up with our own gospel. Galatians 1:8-9, But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Don't be cursed. One way for all people. Jews, Gentiles, and Samaritan. Our salvation has to match-up with the scriptures and no scriptures on the subject can be taken away. Eternity is TOOO long to be WRONG! st, John 5:39, Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. God told Noah exactly how to be saved, how he must build the ark. Noah didn't come up with his own plan like people are doing today. A sinner's prayer, you just have to believe, etc which is not in the bible. The gospels show what Christ has done on the cross for us. The book of Acts shows us the beginning of Christ's Church and how to enter the Church, obeying Acts 2:38. The letters were written to the Church to show us how to behave now that we are born again into the Church. It's better to walk alone than to walk with a crowd going in the wrong direction. Are we supposed to follow the teachings of the apostles? Acts 2:42, They continued steadfastly in the apostle's doctrines. Ephesians 2:20, We are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. If you believe in this message, help spread it in the name of Jesus Christ. God bless you!

[@ChesnaHoward]

He’s coming for His people!

[@bigcountrymountainman9740]

I just don't understand why people that believe in pre-tribulation rapture Overlook these vs. The Bible says that those that are here and that Day " tribulation "and remain will be saved if they take not the mark of the beast or come to the knowledge of the truth. That's clearly talking about people that are on the Earth when the tribulation starts. The disciples in Matthew 24 ask Jesus what is the side of your coming and the end of the world? Jesus said the sun and the moon will darken and then the end will come. And the Book of Revelation, Jesus says immediately after the tribulation the sun in the moon will darken and give up their light and the Earth will shake and I will send up my angels to the four corners of the earth together at my elect.

[@TheBibleExplained]

Because Revelation makes it clear that a lot of people are saved during the tribulation

[@monicadhaliwal1791]

Thank You All Powerful Lord Jesus Christ for Paying for All my Sins Thank You Jesus For Shedding Every Last Drop of Your Perfect Redeeming Innocent Blood For The Forgiveness Full Remission of All my Sins Thank You Jesus For Dying in my place on The Cross ✝️ ❤To Pay for All my Sins as The Perfect Sacrifice because You have No Sin ThankYou For Being Buried Thank You Jesus For COMING BACK ALIVE 3 Days After Your Death because You Are The Son of God and God At The Same Time!!! I LOVE You Heavenly Father ABBA I LOVE You Jesus I LOVE You Holy Spirit Not 3 Different Gods But The 1 The Only True Living GOD Most High Revealed to us in 3 Ways ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤she who is Forgiven Much LOVES Much!!!!!!!!!!

[@MK-ot8dy]

It’s all so complicated

[@lonniespeights8146]

Actually we will not marry when we receive our resurrected bodies but we will still be married and we will be married to Jesus Christ.

[@Jack-It-UP]

Hi, I wonder if you read the comments? I believe there is three raptures. With this line of thought I understand more of what you are saying, It fits together. In this video you came so close to just about saying ,three raptures

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

Jesus promised to His disciples that He was leaving them to go to His Father's House, where He would prepare rooms for them to dwell in (and so be with Christ) at some future occasion. So... was this promise exclusively for His immediate (11 left) disciples? If those rooms were being prepared for His Faithful from all times, then WHEN would such rooms be used? There's no point in arguing that the rooms would be for those who have died and immediately gone to Heaven. We know this is not so, because Paul says that at the Rapture the Dead in Christ would rise first.... so they're dead... so they're NOT in Heaven already. So...we DON'T go to Heaven immediately after death. Jesus' return to Earth - to Jerusalem, specifically, occurs at the height of the assault of Jerusalem by the armies of the Tribulation world. Thereafter, He establishes His kingdom on Earth, ruling from Jerusalem. So... again.. when do the rooms in Heaven get used? The only sensible answer, is that they are used during the 7 years of the Tribulation. This necessitates a PRE Tribulation Rapture.

[@MarkCurtis-eh3ue]

So we go to heaven for only 7 years to return back to earth to reign? Or could what Jesus says that where he is, we will be also mean here on earth during the millennial reign? Isaiah 25:6-10! Rev 7 also speaks of a heavenly dwelling and an earthly dwelling. Sounds to me like they are together once again here as we see a similarity in Rev 7:17 with Isaiah 25:8. Also we have Rev 19:7-9 with Isaiah 25:6! Also what seals the deal that we are not pre trib raptured is 1 Cor 15:54-55 with Isaiah 25:8. So how can death, being the last enemy of Christ be swallowed up pre trib? It's at our Glorification at the last trumpet which fulfills Rev 10:7! Then our judgement Rev 11:15-19 which aligns with Dan 11:10-13 where is this happening pre trib??? The church is "True Israel" spiritual! Born again believers are of Abraham's seed! No separation of Jew and Gentile! Dispensasionalim must go! With all this said....James 3:1

[@markporter-thechurchhistor6784]

Many post tribulationists would say that 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 doesn’t mention a pretrib rapture!!! But nor does it mention a posttrib rapture either!!! As G.E.Ladd says;’Nor does the Word explicitly place the rapture at the end of the Tribulation’.And we certainly couldn’t accuse Ladd of being biased in favour of the pretrib rapture!!!

[@Kman.]

Thx Mark for bringing this out. I would guess that many who subscribe to the "POST" position haven't even HEARD of Ladd...they just regurgitate what they've heard folks say.

[@kenklein9228]

Matthew 24 DOES place the rapture at the end of the GT. Dispensors insist however, that Christ was talking to the Jews. Bunk.

[@markporter-thechurchhistor6784]

@@kenklein9228 The blowing of the Great Trumpet in Matt 24:31 is not referring to the rapture,but to the regathering of Israel at the end of the Tribulation when Christ returns.Matt 24:31 and Isaiah 27:13 are parallel passages.

[@josephcurry4193]

What do you do with Paul's words in 2 Thessalonians 1:6-7 then? For he very clearly tells the already saved members of the Thessalonian church, that they will get their relief from their tribulation when Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire to take vengeance on those who don't know God and who don't obey the gospel of Jesus Christ. You people better get this straight, for no among of fantacy land dreaming is going to change the fact that this among many other passages like 1 Corinthians 15:22-26 reveal that there is only one future coming of Jesus Christ period.

[@paulbrennan4163]

The Thessalonians certainly WILL get both relief and vengeance - when they return with Christ after the marriage ceremony which occurs BEFORE Jesus returns. The verses you are referring to are obviously not describing the rapture. Why would Jesus come with "flaming fire" to gather the church? Is he going to burn us all up? I used to think that multiple "comings" were a problem for a pre-trib rapture too, but it depends on what one means by "coming". For example, Jesus "first coming" does not refer to the first time he came down to the earth. He came multiple times. Since the Father does not make house calls we can understand the fact that it was Jesus who spoke with Adam and Eve in Eden, who came down and appeared to Abraham, to Jacob, to Moses and many other people. Given this fact, Jesus coming to the earth unannounced in order to carry out certain things is nothing we should consider strange. And therefore, Jesus earthly ministry being referred to as his "first coming" and his return in the end times as his "second coming" is obviously because they are major events that have global impact. Jesus first coming was a complex set of events spanning over thirty years of his life. If that was true concerning his first coming, they why do people assume that his second coming occurs in an instance and does not involve multiple events? The Jews also thought that their Messiah would only come once and look what happened to them. The rapture is merely a precursor to what will occur in the end times and will only involve those people who have lived their lives according to the law of Christ. It isn't his second coming, but something that has to occur _before_ he returns with the church to destroy his enemies.

[@mckenzielouis6027]

This if a great subject , but where do I find scripture that mention the word “ rapture”

[@Kman.]

Your so called "QUESTION" is nothing short of a denial of the position, *SMH.* E/one can see thru it my friend. By the way...its there if you'll look, but if that same lame argument can be turned back on you & one could ask, "Where in the bible does it say there will NOT be a rapture"? In o/words, you've brought no argument, only a denial with your post.

[@dennishagans6339]

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. Christ is speaking specifically to the Jews in this when the antichrist places the abomination of desolation in their rebuilt third Temple. Act 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; *_and a cloud received him out of their sight._* Act 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, *_shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven._* Note: Angels were present when Christ ascended. 1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, *_and with the trump of God:_* and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be *_caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:_* and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, *_and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven_* with power and great glory. see Rev 6:16-17 Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels *_with a great sound of a trumpet,_* and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. see 1Cor 15:52, 1Thes 4:16 1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, *_at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,_* and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, *_and coming in the clouds of heaven._* Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. Mar 13:26 *_And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds_* with great power and glory. Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. Eph 1:10 Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: Mar 13:27 Mar 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, *_and coming in the clouds of heaven._* Luk 17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man *_coming in a cloud_* with power and great glory. Rev 1:7 Behold, *_he cometh with clouds;_* and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. see Rev 6:16-17 Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; see Mat 24:29, Mar 13:24-25 Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. see Mat 24:29, Mar 13:24-25 Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. see Mat 24:29, Mar 13:24-25 Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Whenever you see common elements between various books we call that the synoptice Gospels, parallel passages. If you compare acts 1:9-11 and 1 Thes 4:16-17 you have common elements namely Jesus coming in the clouds, it is not hard to search for other verses where Jesus is coming in the clouds. Sadly most people prefer what they have been taught over what the Bible actually says. Indoctrination into a denomination is like putting on a pair of colored glasses that you can never take off, everything you see and read is filtered by those glasses.

[@rossdaboss1959]

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[@Yechurchonline]

What if we reign with God in the New Jerusalem in Heaven and then come down when it comes down in The new heaven and earth, but those that reign with Christ for 1000 years are for those who chose Jesus too late and it’s a time for them to get prepared and get more righteous before the great white throne judgement. What if when we are raptured we stay as a blessing in heaven and don’t have to come back to earth and we keep our wives because it said those at the resurrection don’t marry but parable of 5 virgins is different . God bless just wanted to speculate. Because it mentions those that were be headed reign with Christ, so seems to be some sort of testing. I don’t see why God would bring us back to earth instead of leaving us in our mansion in Heaven when raptured before the tribulation. So that’s why I believe we have to be free from sin to be raptured.

[@maryannownby4028]

Under grace salvation is free. A free gift. Not all will have free salvation. The rejected die for christ after the rapture of church. Jesus get belivers. Pre Angels gather dead saints at the golden alter. After the tribuation. Post Free gift(Christ's blood) vs rejected (your own blood) Christ died as the atonement for sins of believers While the rejected will die for salvation. Why is there two verses that contradict each other? Not all who say lord lord vs all who call upon the lord. Theres a time(now) all can call upon him. During the tribuation taking the mark while accepting christ isnt enough. You have to choose christ or the mark. You have to die or resist. Works vs free gift. We are all sinners. We all broke the law. If we broke 1 commandment were guilty of all. Were all guitly in sin. Or all equal in christ.meaning not 1 Christian is better than the other. We all broke the law. If we didnt need jesus wed have to shed our own animal saceafices. To Christians jeuss is that lamb sacrafice. Covered by the blood of jesus. Age of grace or dispensation of grace. Vs dispensation of the kingdom. Dispensation is like how God works with different people in different time periods. There was a dispensation of creation Dispensation of conscience(clean mind) Dispensation of the law (jewish only) Disp of grace(jew and gentile body of christ) Gentiles aren't all white. Gentile just means anyone who isnt of Jewish blood.

[@normmcinnis4102]

Yes. There is bible evidence for a pretrib rapture. 2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him. first part is literal coming.The second part, "our gathering" relates to the rapture. 2Thessalonians 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. (Yep. You missed the rapture, the day of Christ is at hand. You're in the time of "Jacob's trouble"). 2Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a "falling away" first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; The problem here is the "falling away". All the old Bibles from Tynedale to the 1599 Geneva use "departing". Only the Bishops bible for some strange reason used "falling away". Then again, the Bishops bible was not well received at the time. So, the 70th week will not start except the rapture comes first. It will not be a secret as the world will be freaked out and in a panic. Someone will have to step up and take control. Do we see where this is going?

[@ourlifeinwashington4114]

Wasnt Michael and everyother Angel in heaven more powerful than Satan? They did kick him out right? So satan is just a fallen angel that influences morally weak people. So i guess humans can be stronger than him too right?

[@TheBibleExplained]

The Bible describes Lucifer as the anointed cherub, as what seems like the brightest of all angels, and says that he weakens nations. Michael and all the other angels did (or will - that's a whole other video right there) cast them out but remember that there are 2x the number of angels in heaven as there are fallen angels or demons. But when Michael and Satan meet one-on-on it seems that neither can prevail (Jude 9 & Daniel 10:13). And, no, we are not more powerful than Satan, however Satan does have limits. There's reason to believe that he cannot kill us, for example. However he is very deceptive and Paul wrote that he blinds the eyes of unbelievers to keep them from salvation.

[@ancora966]

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