Yugioh is getting very FRUSTRATING...

[@thecalieffect]

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[@quisethegoat7217]

I think one of the problems at that I’ve seen is that the game is getting hard to keep with and even harder for new people who are trying to start it’s not really as fun as it used to be

[@Mt.Berry-o7]

Yes, I'm extremely frustrated by how poorly tcg is treated compared to ocg. Rarity bumps, awful sets, lesser print quality; they would never dare treat japanese players this way. There's some snake-eyes fatigue there too, but that's secondary compared to decades of consumer abuse.

[@pastrue2863]

Time rules suck. Combo decks are cool but when there is a time limit and because they are preforming so many actions in a turn, they get to dominated and dictate the pace of the game. Which, at least in my experience, makes me feel super rushed to get through my combo(s) and losing in time always feels crappy, especially when you are in a winning position otherwise.

[@LilJohnsYu-gi-hobby]

Yugioh is so annoying at this point I thought I was gonna win yesterday against a branded despia deck but it was branded labyrinth that wooped me yesterday

[@realzionygo]

@@thecalieffect I don't mind the game itself. But, it is frustrating seeing the same strategies on tournament streams. I always look forward to watching YCS streams, but it's always the same decks, so I turn it off. Locals are great because you see more variety, but then quickly diminished because meta players play to win more packs. Meta decks are gate keeping others from winning more packs to build said meta decks.

[@slvwolf9925]

Ok, you convinced me I was going to buy the fiendsmith cards but I'm going to go Jamaica instead. thanks.

[@duelist4512]

Oh? Well I hope you enjoy your stay in JA. I'd like to think it's a beautiful island.

[@patirck024]

Likely the better investment. Have fun.

[@Trickaz94]

Nice, that's what I would do too

[@thecalieffect]

That's crazy that you can take a trip to Jamaica over buying cards! 😱

[@Ookami20]

Smart man

[@agnaswilliam8988]

Yu-Gi-Oh basically became Pay to win, it's not fun anymore unless it's casual play using rogues

[@indigenoustruthx4828]

​@theodorez6467 Pokémon is crazy affordable. That's what I play.

[@ClaudioVarone3299]

No.

[@Matthew-he6id]

Became? It's always been that way. Winning anything in this game with any amount of consistency has almost never been budget friendly

[@CyrusIsnt]

😂😂 people are funny

[@MZX4206969]

It's been pay to win plus skill since the game came out. I remember getting stomped by the chaos emperor dragon and black luster when they came out. Including the yata lock. Don't get me started on teledad

[@treetrunkstv]

handtraps, generic endboards, floodgates, printing tier 1 decks consistently for money

[@Trickaz94]

Pay to win format

[@HunterStiles651]

"Printing Tier 1 decks consistently for money". I don't think you realize how much you hit the nail on the head right there. That's the problem in a nutshell. Konami doesn't print decks that just happen to be Tier 1 anymore. They print decks that are explicitly designed *to be Tier 1.* This leaves competitive Yugioh feeling incredibly fake even though on a surface level it seems to have more or less the same set of issues it did five years ago.

[@Mckudenomg]

The problem is that alot of players, myself included, just cant play the decks we like... and I dont mean like trying to top nationals or something like that, we just CANT play. One card combos mean that you can fill the rest of the deck with shitloads of utility. It just not fun being pushed around.

[@darnellfelix8114]

@@Mckudenomg imagine being unable to play and priced out

[@RazielTheUnborn]

Here is the problem with the way of thinking, "Konami is a company older than many of us being alive. They know what they are doing." Company heads change. Leadership change. Viewpoints change. The people in charge of the better years of Yu-Gi-Oh might not be the ones in charge of the current formats, or they have a mandate from on high demanding more profits. Every day a company survives, it's another day it changes from what it was before. Case and point, Konami used to be a video game juggernaut. Look where they are now for video games.

[@cfelton2nd]

thats because they flopped the games they had with bad decisions like they doing with yugioh rn XD

[@RazielTheUnborn]

@@cfelton2nd that's the point I am making.

[@michaelkhalfani9177]

Nothing will change as long as Yugioh players don't speak with their wallets. If Konami annonced a 1200 man turnement. and 500 people (Playing snake-eyes) showed up. Things would be ALOT different. Or if a product came out and nobody buys it. ect ect. But people would still complain while still supporting the company. Shouts out to @thecalieffect for doing something.

[@Corey91666]

You dont need to go that far. Just dont play the busted stuff. Imagine a regionals or ycs with barely any fiendsmith representation. You can say konami is the problem but the players keep buying into this. YGO is such a great game once you remove yourself from the top meta shit. So many cool decks and also alot of reprints and Support for them. Heroes, infernoid, ice barrier, salads, sky strikers, lightsworn, cyber dragons, blue eyes, galaxy photon etc.

[@libra365]

​@@Corey91666until they start making rouge decks cost 300+ dollars. Either stop playing the game or we as a community make our own tournaments/banlist and refuse Konami's official support. If they wana kill the game then lets kill it

[@Corey91666]

@@libra365 what rogue deck is 300€ ? Many staples are cheaper than ever. Yes some are still bad like thrust but most of the decks i posted can be build with about 100€. I get that there is definitely stuff to complain about but you can play the game fairly competitive outside of snake eyes fiendsmith.

[@libra365]

@@Corey91666 "until they start making rouge decks cost 300+ dollars" The price dosent matter now as like Trident Dragon Konami can just always short print and rarity boost cards they know people want to play.

[@darnellfelix8114]

@@Corey91666 where I live, plenty of rogue decks are 300 € though you can also get older meta decks or cores in that price range.

[@realzionygo]

It costs more to buy a meta deck, play, and travel than the value of 1st place winnings. Yugioh tourneys are pretty much a financial loss.

[@gearsfan6669]

while I don't play YGO anymore, I like to keep up with the drama cuz it's a childhood IP, and I hate to say it but the abysmal state that the competitive YGO scene is facing right now is partially Takahashi's fault with his wishes that it have no cash prizes, if he wouldn't have said that or at least revised his statement before his passing Konami would be forced to keep up with their major competition's (MTG, Pokemon, One Piece, Lorcana, hell even Vanguard and Weiss Schwarz) prize support because if they didn't they would be hemorrhaging players even more than they currently are and that's not even getting into the insanely poor pull rates.

[@Camelotsmoon]

Idk why Konami keeps that guy around who invented zoodiac. It's like the past few new archetypes they've been asking that guy to design their entire game now with all the one card combos. Where is the guy who designed niberu? I want to hear more from him.

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

It sells a LOT of boxes due to tourney players needing the chase cards with abyssmal pull rates

[@Camelotsmoon]

@@QuantemDeconstructor I like how it's almost a self repeating cycle. We get a budget archetype in legacy of destruction and people consider it a mid set and don't buy that much, then we get infinite forbidden with everything being secret and everybody's buys more than they can handle and complains things are too expensive. Just don't buy it lol.

[@nicholassarikas7904]

I played yugioh as a kid, i came back and played master duel for about a year. I went to my first locals recently, I played against 3 snakes eyes players with my red dragon archfiend deck, one guy played through 4 hand traps. I dont think i want to go back 😂

[@xXNeoNashXx]

Thats so gross. The fact that they spent $1000 each, just to stomp locals is also beta behaviour lol

[@jeslucas2515]

People always try to make the argument "handtraps exist to keep broken decks from OTKing," but I disagree completely. Handtraps help powerful decks OTK you even better by keeping the other playing from stopping them from OTKing. I don't know how people can't fathom that all decks can use the cards. Good decks CAN use them to stop SOME great decks, but great decks CAN use them to stop ALL good decks.

[@Billy-ot8mk]

For prizing since cash is out of the question they could do. 1. Full card arts 2. Scholarships/Partnering with Travel/ Airline companies for YCS, Nats, and Worlds for deals for players going to these events.

[@undeadinside3571]

It would be a lot better than a dumb prize card that most likely isnt even good and a playmat

[@chops1162]

It's so stupid that this game can get so expensive this is why I don't play the tcg game and just stick to md

[@TheRecklessMetalhead]

I still collect Yugioh cards, regardless.

[@eatos9130]

It's just greed that made Yu-Gi-Oh expensive think about it

[@grainop9165]

A whole pot of it

[@ghostface_d3607]

Be like Cali and don't buy it. If you're the person overpaying for every new busted engine, you're literally the problem

[@Cybertech134]

If you're the person overpaying for every new busted engine, you're not the one complaining. The whales don't care about poor people problems.

[@pudgeypigeon]

I went to locals yesterday. Its real sweaty competitive in my OTS but due to nationals it was mostly the more casuals and it was so fun and diverse! Spright, traptrix, chimera, heroes and 1 tenpai player. I remembered how fun this game is yesterday.

[@marcelineabadeer3519]

I went to my first locals like 2 months ago and it was insane. Everyone was on Snake Eye and Rescue Ace. 18 People 15 SE / R-Ace, 1 centurion calamity lock, 1 voiceless voice and me playing Salad. I thought locals were more casual

[@szymonsadlo]

I hate it that yu-gi-oh requires money and then skill. It should be the other way around

[@slaumir]

At least have cheap version of those expensive cards unless you want to max out rarity Which would help both p2w to show off and budget players can still play them

[@manchovieclemmons2380]

​@@slaumirisnt that literally the ocg? Why cant we have that?

[@slaumir]

@@manchovieclemmons2380 i want the same

[@NexusSpacey]

​@@manchovieclemmons2380 The OCG is just the better game. All it has under us is Maxx C. Which I would argue is actually designed around pretty well. Master Duel wouldn't feel the same without the thing and I MUCH prefer MD over the TCG. And that is WITHOUT even thinking about the fact that Master Duel can be played for free. The TCG can't. I legit CAN'T build the casual deck I want in real life, but I CAN in Master Duel. And in the OCG. While I was in Japan I checked some local prices and I could make my deck for under 200 euros. That would equate 7 of the 75 cards in that deck in the TCG :/

[@manchovieclemmons2380]

@@NexusSpacey I agree with all of this except for two things... Maxx c is indefensible, and no single card should force people to balance around it. Second... OCG banning is straight up awful. As is master duel's. Tcg banlists, while not perfect, are substantially better than what they have there.

[@lit_wick]

My buddies and I have been putting on "rouge" tournaments every month or so. The winner is usually the person who gets closest to meta, but it's till a more fun experience compared to playing nothing but meta. Losing to the one dude playing plant synchro bc our judge decided it was rouge enough is infinitly better than losing to snake eyes all night.

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Understand, this is Konami. They absolutely don’t care about non-Japanese players or market. They only listen to Japanese players. And given how Japan is a competition driven country, and are very set in their ways, they don’t care about how the game goes. All they care about is winning. If you all prefer to play older formats like GOAT, Edison and Tengu Plant (the most diverse and balanced format), then have at it. Konami is thankfully, sanctioning events based on those formats.

[@ProfessionalCommentor]

My local does a tournament where they collectively just vote out the tier zero deck.

[@TheChipmania]

Im glad to see you put your foot down on this issue and not indulge in their shenanigans. I fully agree woth everything you said, and will be more focused on fun decks i enjoy, finding heart of the underdog events, or playing older formats. Still will be here to watch your content, but dont feel obligated for certain videos if you arent enjoying the format.

[@renaldyhaen]

Dropping new supports for the best decks at their peak is Konami's strategy, they do this with full awareness. Maybe you cannot see the impact at a high-competitive level. Because players there either already have access to those expensive cards, good skill, or both. But on a more casual level. Because some people cannot afford or don't want to spend money on those expensive cards, bad-rich players can easily win the game by buying the most expensive deck. This will encourage Bad-rich players to spend more and more money on the game. Also, some people may be tired of losing because of those cards, and then they will buy those strong cards for themselves too. After Konami sells all of their expensive cards. Now they can kill the deck, and force the user to buy new products, especially the strongest and most expensive one, I don't think a player wants to spend money for a "weaker" deck after they used those expensive strong decks before. . I wish HOTU was a format with an official ban list. We cannot satisfy everyone because each player has their own argument about the "fair cards". But Konami with their authority can force the banlist to everyone. I know this is difficult for paper. But we have the technology, Master Duel, to get detailed data on the win rate or play rate of the cards. Sometimes they use the data for a 2-week event, and actually, they're good. Just too bad they only last for 2 weeks. . I agree with Edison or old format opinion. They're great if you want to learn the game. But if you're an old player, they're boring. They just META from different eras. I wanna play decks like S-Force or Dual Avatar. You cannot really play decks like them in standard modern format, because the format is crazy. But they're not old enough to join the older format.

[@UVVSaiYan]

Honestly, I have been a Yugioh fan since the beginning. I remember the set 1 pass time. And now I wanted to get back in it because of my favorite cards the galaxy/tachyon are coming out with more. But seeing how Yugioh is with costs and how all these combos are now, and even the community not being as friendly and cool as it used to be. Might just change my mind.

[@Ookami20]

I hate telling ppl to not try Yugioh but everything you said is valid maybe try and find cool friends to play with you’ll have a better time

[@stayflyxx]

I will say one positive thing is that you can find a good locals with friendly people. My first was okay, but this second one has been fantastic.

[@Harrowing999]

I feel like everyone who doesn’t want to play Snake Eyes, or can’t afford it, are all taking a hiatus. Me included. Hell my locals dropped to FOUR players right now until something happens. For me, Raizeol is looking like a great deck to come back to the game with

[@mandalorian2010]

I feel the same. I JUST got BACK into the game at the end of last year. And after this last set, I'm planning on taking a break from Yu-Gi-Oh. I'm getting sick of this. I spend more money playing GOAT and Edison. I've decided if I do go to an event, I'm playing Stun again

[@DaisyEdwards-md7jl]

One card combos are definitely such a huge problem I totally agree, also I would love to see Yugioh got towards unique decks that all play differently not just which engine you run along these same 25 staples

[@scott898586]

This might make konami put a cap on sale prices again at events.

[@BlackRaveBow]

I quit a few years ago because I hated 5 min turns and un breakable turn 1 boards. Glad me and my ghostricks stayed gone.

[@IRules2244]

i started playing magic cuz of tier 0 decks. mtg commander is probably the most fun i have had in a while. flame me all you want, but having games with more than 2 people is incredibly refreshing.

[@Essrayle]

I like how many tcg players who only have exposure to Konami through Yugioh seem even remotely confused that they'd be like this. Bruh. I'd say I'm shocked that so many people don't know what a Black Company is, but then again there was a legal ruling to take basic hygiene rules or go away so I'd worry less about people selling cards at events and glue vendor stands setting up in the hallways outside.

[@Quesorito]

I believe in a Black Atlas TOP! Go get’em brother!! You’re one of the creators that got me back into the game. I hope Konami figures out their sh*t and fix things sooner rather later. I’d hate to see a player and content creator like you fade from Yugioh.

[@danielbarragan6089]

Yeahhhhh!!! This is the way!!!! My friend, there is no reason to not have another format for casual players. I don't know if heart of the underdog, domain format or other format are the answer. But i'm gona try it.

[@naui5257]

TBH, it’s the reason I enjoy legacy formats at this point. most decks are astoundingly cheaper with TONS of reprints on the market or years for the price to drop due to the ban list. You could probably spend the same amount on all GOAT or Edison staples for the same price as one Fiendsmith Engraver. No thanks Konami. I am casual so I will not play premium.

[@Kolobochok95]

Solution: Get Tenpai and profit or just play stun.

[@Cameytoe]

I did find an upside with the latest set which is that so much product was bought and opened for a handful of cards that the more casual oriented cards are super affordable. So Exodia and Gimmick Puppet players rejoice!

[@carloscera1256]

I started heart of the underdog days at my local lgs and it’s really brightened the mood for everyone who plays yugioh. It’s so fresh being able to play something like cydras, and magical muskets and actually being able to play

[@kingfatih]

I honestly do think formats like heart of the underdog are it. Otherwise i really dont have much say, which hasnt been said but also Yu-Gi-Oh was in top 2 for TCG sales last month after Pokemon. Far from dying and losing its spot. - there are too many cards that easily could come back from the banlist and boost decks to help, why are they still banned? Same the other way around. Too many cards that should be hit - time for banlist like the one that ended TOSS. - have a reprint set once a year with 3 raritys for each card. - fix prizing, have staple cards in a rarity which is only available if you top in events and a different card for each event, then restart with card #1 next format. Konami absolutely lost it since Tear. No more 1 card combos please or for decks like dark Magician, red-eyes, harpies etc (bad anime decks)

[@warriorofgod2700]

"We as a community..." I'm sorry, players would have to unanimously boycott everything and not spend a dime (which will never happen). These prices for engraver? Konami doesn't see the $400 you shell out for it. They already got their money from the case(s) OTS stores buy. They don't care about our wallet and what an individual card costs. And all the talk about supporting local ots stores? They're a business, and if we boycott, then they just stop getting product, effectively killing the game that we all play for some unnatural reason. Secondly, even if we all showed up to Nats playing paleo frogs, swordsoul, 2014 shaddoll, etc and no one was playing anything from years past product, all Konami is gonna do is ban everything except for what they want to sell, bringing us right back here. And lastly, tying everything together and going back to "we as a community", let's be real. What community? No offense to Cali (being pretty much the only youtuber that calls it how he sees it). Other youtubers are either sponsored to promote bad products, or just do market watches and tournament recaps. Hardly anyone else uses their platform to put Konami on blast.

[@JuanGonzalezZzZzZz...]

There is Kotton too. He tells you not to play certain card or engine then proceeds to win using such card or engine 😅 because he abuses his influence in a mean way.

[@jeslucas2515]

Firstly, that would NEVER happen. People will still play ygo. The game would not die. At all. Secondly, IF they did that, then wouldn't a boycott make more sense? Also, unless they ban EVERY card pre the last few years (Which will never happen), then you could still play cards pre the last few years. Lastly, the community means the rest of the 95% of the ygo community who doesn't dump entire paychecks into broken, meta decks every time they come out just to stay relevant in a competitive world. Alright 95% is an exaggeration. More like 80% of players who played the game in the past and wanted to still play but couldn't because of all the broken changes compared to their 10 year old deck they loved. The new players who want to get into ygo but quit after the first few games because of the same reason old ygo players quit. The current players who just want to play a nice, tame game with without 5 max turns and 15 minutes per turn. The sad reality is, the minority of ygo players are spending the majority of the money on the game. So, they balance the game around the minority versus the majority.

[@michaelh.1484]

We still don't have any structure deck announced this year

[@mykeltrick]

On my view , i'd like think the general problem is the old system we still use with the 8000 life pts! ... Maybe its time for the game to change how to win a game with another system that can match the speed of the actual game

[@CardFox37]

Facts Big Dawg! If there's a soap box to stand on, this is it! The squeeze that Konami puts on the TCG players is tremendous.... Especially when you compare the cost to play vs. the prizing. I believe you're on the right path though man! If all the big voices in Yu-Gi-Oh! would speak up together on these issues, it could 'potentially' sway Konami's decisions in the future.

[@demariogoss9732]

Rather than just 1 card combos being the problem in Yu Gi Oh, I think "boss" monsters, and extra deck monsters are often too generic. I think Yu Gi Oh would be in a much better state if they put more restrictions on how those kinds of cards can be summoned/used.

[@TaylorGill-h9o]

This game desperately needs to tone down the pace; add some kind of resource system similar to Magic with Lands etc, or at least start limiting summons. I'd even suggest making the minimum deck size higher as well, because the current 40 card decks have far too much consistency. The Tier 1 decks are constantly locked behind high priced cards that average players cannot afford until reprints come around which is predatory because we know most of the time these cards get limited or banned in the future by the time many of us can obtain the cards necessary to succeed. This is just a few of the issues I have. Id love to see a more diverse meta as well. Also...Stop making new cards for archetypes that died years ago if the support isn't going to be good enough to compete.

[@rupert6999]

YES to commuity curated formats - we need a panel/board akin to what happened with Pauper and EDH in MTG.

[@markos50100]

That's why i play rush duels. Not komoney's rush duels but my own designed cards for the mode. Already made all fusion cards contact fusions that send to grave the top three cards as a poly substitute condition, rituals that have one generic ritual spell for all rituals but requires the materials to have the type attribute and level from board to summon (monsters can apply multiple conditions like warrior and light on the same card.) All maximum summons are all slightly useful alone and have cards that can help bring it back as the decks real boss monster. All spells and traps require returning monsters to deck to activate, and all monsters have excavate until a certain number of monsters are sent and return the rest to the bottom of deck.

[@BobbioAdam]

Our Heart of the Underdog night is THE single best format in the TCG. Reasonable archetype ban list, new archetypes are allowed but banned if they're doing too well. Popular archetypes at our shop are Raid raptors, Infernoble, dragon link, plant link, a few of us are grabbing Gimmick Puppet. Coming in second with Raid raptors feels sooooo good. And being able to try new cards and tech and not deal with Kash banishing and zone locking or Runick decking you out or SE constantly interrupting, or getting the degen puppet lock, eff off puppet lockers btw. Love my shop, shout out to Grandmaster Games.

[@casketbase7750]

My litmus test for a format is how well Dinos can compete. Is Misc enough to avoid common disruption? ❌️ Is UTC able to break common boards? ❌️ Are two card combos the peak of consistency? ❌️ If Dinos, the most reliable rogue deck of the past decade, is outmatched, what hope is there for anyone else?

[@crystalqueen9711]

This is especially depressing for me as a rural player because I want to take your advice and try Lorcana, Digimon One Piece and even Pokemon, but they're just full stop not supported in my area, the only alternative I have is Magic the Gathering and despite multiple attempts it's just not sticking with me, if you really want to play these other games your only choice is an hour long drive to and from the nearby city

[@takin3193]

We need more people in the community like you. If the content creators like SAM/ APS / Farfa / the funny guy (forgot his name) all actually took a step back and Acknowledge that Konami has been heading in the wrong direction it may trigger a much needed response. After seeing what is in line from the OCG for the next year of YUGIOH it seems like Konami is doubling down on making the format even more 1 card combo dependent and as a result I ended up quitting the game I'll prob come back and test the waters once there is a new master rule, I don't think the current state of the game would change much from one or 2 banlists.

[@leandroschneider4864]

I got back in yu gi oh after long long years, and one friend of mine wanted to Get me in Physical cards, I said sure, he started to explain about meta deck and its prices and how some cards have astronomical prices and others are cheap af, and had to give up and stick to games created by the community that don’t need me to pay to get cards, not even duel masters or duel links, just Omega, had a blast, besides seeing some frustrating decks and change of gameplay after coming back after so long to the game

[@dallasfalmier7010]

The Edison card pool being locked is one of the best things about the format. I don't have to buy the new busted deck konami prints every 4 months. I can buy 1 deck I enjoy and play it forever.

[@DC-eb6oo]

Honestly I have never been to a large event. As a UK player over here we already get the shaft when it comes to events. I at the moment only play locals. I only got back into hobby after like a 5-6 year hiatus (due to a stolen collection) and play on a very tight budget. My deck has cost me all things considered about £30-40 thanks to some generous dudes giving me a bunch of staples. This format is incredibly irritating very much prices me out of being able to play anything with modern support.

[@stayflyxx]

FINALLY a Content Creator putting their foot down with this BS. I also decided to continue my hiatus because sweaty tournaments are not fun in these constantly expensive tier 0 format. I'm going to learn how to play MtG Commander until things improve & Konami brings in a mixed rarity system.

[@phenomgaming3245]

Back in the days, simple structure decks could get you by. Now if u face any meta decks youre finished, little to no chance. The balancing is effed up

[@cristianDominguez314]

I played competitively back in 2012, 2013, 2014. People had the same complaints back then. Power creep, pay to win/expensive staples, degenerate cards, lack of diverse formats, game getting too fast, etc. I’m always surprised by how long this game has lasted. I’m shocked the fans cling so hard this game like someone in an abusive relationship. Are they cycling through new players? What is going on in yugioh? Everything screams that is unsustainable. And yet, every month new product is dropping. I’m genuinely curious how long this can continue.

[@griseldarodriquez2905]

Everything now adays is expensive. You cannot (unless you have money to throw away) invest competitive in anything when you have rent,gas , food and everything else to pay only for the cards to be power crept. I have more fun playing pokemon and mtg than yugioh, and I still love yugioh but it's hard.

[@ASAINATL]

It was one thing when the link 1 knightmare came out. You could almost excuse konami for not thinking everyone would abuse it, but they made fiendsmiths link 1 and the goddess link 2 with the intention of it being a expensive broken engine

[@animesempai0]

Yeah it is, and that's why I'm going to the tournament this weekend to sell as many cards and cases and boxes as possible. Might switch over to Pokemon but yeah I'm probably done with Yu-Gi-Oh, might dabble with rogue decks but that's it.

[@dissidiamaniac460]

Konami gonna look at what cards can counter snake eye/fiendsmith to ban them on the next banlist

[@SaintStrength0]

My locals is pretty lit, Cali. I think your locals makes a big difference. At mine, almost no one plays SE, and then, we all play tier 1.5's-2's, even in tourney. Most everyone is really cool and not socially "nails on a chalkboard" either, if you get what I mean. Yugioh can be, and even now is, fun. It just depends how you're playing and who you're playing with.

[@Armstr009]

I haven’t played in 4 months. Sold my pure snake eyes deck before it dropped in price & ngl I miss the game sm but my gawd dishing out hundreds of dollars just for my deck to be power crept to the ground in a couple weeks/months is exhausting & discouraging.

[@CanaldoHenrich]

Playing for fun or Rogue (barely) never made so much sense. The game is not fun with so many generic stuff and this power creep. They HAVE to lower the ceiling for the own sake of the game.

[@geek593]

Glad someone said it. The game is anti-fun. The only fun people have playing this game is testing by themselves and winning. The people I know who are still all-in on Yugioh are the types who only enjoy themselves when they're making other people miserable.

[@samuelgonzalez-tovar3936]

What’s mkhol40 doing?

[@MrFaloso]

ayy Digimon mentioned! Grew up with YGO but the Digimon TCG is hella fun rn, but i wouldnt mind getting some YGO cards again if they are somewhat affordable

[@adamellis6044]

Not been playing that long but it seems like they’re a bit stuck with not having a new summoning mechanic to the game / master rule to soft reset the power in game… so the only solution for them is so keep upping the power level of the game… and now we’re at the point of decks with 1 card starters running busted engines that can be splashed in most decks

[@SSJ2LINK]

I slowly fell out of the game. It just got stale and samey. I stopped going to tournaments and wasn’t interested in any new decks cause they all cost $500

[@vincentwilliams1308]

Spot on... I thought it was F'd up. i'm personally not as competitive, I had friends that competed to get their invite put in time just to find out an OP engine comes out the day of. It was really shitty of Konami to treat their customers like that

[@W_Sir_Morpheus]

8:00 , i think edison is over hyped and personally not my favorite time wizard format, but ive always hated this take lol. Kinda the point its a snap shot in time and you play with that card pool because you enjoy what the game play presented. There not being new cards thrown in old formats is a silly complaint cause thats the point of retro formats lmao

[@ojaboji1]

I feel that man agreed whole heartedly that's why I switched to pokemon lol and have been having more fun. Hope to catch you in Austin tomorrow man.

[@kyerinajohnson1353]

I stop playing in competive games mostly due to cost an attitude of players, like i go there for fun having a good time , these players just straight away go into end game mode as i call it and it sucks the fun out of it, even if its just locals the drive to win takes over.

[@ericdavis679]

You know its true when you go to your locals and two issues happen with people not listening and not letting others respond and more. Hell I haven't played in two years I kept up to date with cards but man some many unclarified rules timing when you can chain when you can activate wording of cards... I mean its going alittle stupid Konami has to fix this...

[@angelcandelaria6728]

I also took a haitus 🎉❤ been playing edison . My current decks are memento, chimera and shining sarc. I also play ghoti, blackwings, and several other rogue decks. I play for the love of the archetypes and lore but mostly brain time and friends.

[@jamesellis9571]

I generally don't blame you for taking a Break, I am The same when it comes To card games in General, I have 2 Yu-Gi-Oh decks, One is a 60 card Six samurai deck in use just for fun, The other is my Crusadia Kaiju Blend, and even with that particular deck that I can OTK on, Yu-Gi-Oh isn't as fun as it used to be, I also Play MTG, And have about 7 Commander decks, But have lost about 60 times Each, Against people that will out and out Just Spend plastic On their deck

[@sergiovazquez3405]

I think the problem was introducing snake eyes, because with this deck you can use a lot of alternatives to get the best combos. That means that other cards would be participating in the next Banlist in a useless way. Affecting other decks that need those cards to work efficiently and no being part of the meta. Just watch Fiendsmith strategies with every fiend or dark deck!!!!

[@Moshuun]

We go thru this every year. Y'all in a toxic relationship.

[@PawsScreenGames]

I really only play casual at this point. The game is so insane with hand traps, flood gates, tier one/zero formats, 1 card combos, and generic boss monsters. I moved to Digimon

[@Ookami20]

Yugioh is only fun now if you have friends or chill ppl to play with cause then you can make whatever decks you want unfortunately as Yugioh players, friends isn’t exactly our strong suit… went to locals once immediately dipped out lol I’m trying to quit or find friends but both tasks almost impossible lol I just keep scoopin’ on MD till I find cool/fun/chill ppl to duel online I get about 1-3 “fun” duels each day I try I feel like a masochist at this point lol

[@repeatingimp7229]

Yugioh was the first card game i got into but i got so tired of being locked out of playing on turn 1 and back in 2021 i converted to MTG, specifically EDH. I hate how yugioh has no deck creativity. When i play yugioh i just wanna play ancient gears and smack people for 16000 damage

[@getrektnoob777]

It truly amazes me how much money people are willing to spend to win a game where the prize pool is the lowest out of all of the other games, like the least they could do is make it more worth it to play and stuff, i literally sold someone a firndsmith engraver I pulled for 110 dollars, shits crazy

[@cloak_n_dagger6436]

Ive switched to magic the gathering over the last year and a half. I still play with my yugioh cards, play on masterdual, and build the decks i truley enjoy or think are cool. But its too fast pace, cards can do too much, and way too often are the top decks always new archetypes that end up being overpriced, underprinted, and doing too much lol

[@theTUBBSTER]

I built a commander deck and it’s the most fun I’ve had playing a TCG since I grew up playing goat format with my brother & sister

[@93krstn]

The game is straight up toxic check mate turn one needs to stop.

[@b00ts93]

For me its the loss of just dueling with Archtypes that you and your friends like. casually playing with rogues is honestly so much more fun. its so oversaturated with expensive & insanely overpowered cards, and decks that can just throw up 10 negates or build up an insane board with 1 card.

[@onryu]

YGO should add a multiplayer commander styled format, everything at 1 and 99 cards plus your commander/deck master

[@tobiasfrey2793]

I know players have been saying it a lot over the years, especially recently, but it really seems like we're approaching a breaking point, both in the game itself with how exaggeratedly powerful the new decks are getting and with the card pricing. I actually haven't been playing for almost a year now (but still ben following somewhat closely) because everything just feels so degenerate and unfun right now.

[@friendmaker9210]

Just out of curiosity, what would the punishment be for hosting an unofficial tournament with prize money? No points, no connection to the YCS or using a COSSY ID or anything like that, just an unofficial tournament where anyone can join (maybe even banned players?) for fun and prizes? I wonder what would happen

[@dh7367]

I believe yugioh should include a rule for searches where after 2 searches you skip your next draw phase as a way of balancing it out.

[@yeayouknowitsme9839]

I quit playing and buy cards because I’ll spend big money on certain cards and few weeks later they reprint them and I over spent because of the price drop from reprinting cards it happened to me a few times and now I’m just done spending money I’ll buy cards again when Konami decides to pump the brakes on these reprinting extravaganza. I’ll just play master duel until the card market is fixed. Until then Konami isn’t getting another cent from me.

[@josuealbert7063]

I dont play in our weekly tournaments at our locals anymore because i hate seeing the same deck in all 4 rounds the only time i have fun is when my buddies and i get together and play casual and w all our none meta decks which makes our games incredibly competitive when we arent otk each other

[@dpacula63]

I remember years ago when Konami started letting vendors at regionals charge $100 or more for single cards. Before they had a cap and it had to be under $100 or something like that. But once they changed it I knew it was gonna ruin Yugioh and I was right.

[@edpaolosalting9116]

I swear, make a Yugioh Commander 4-pod format. That will keep you combo players in check.

[@iandavid9573]

Guys we have to boycott the game for them to change the way things are. Swap for any other tcg for a lil while. I've been playing Vanguard and was thinking of trying digimon while Yugi decides to get their shit together

[@kish45]

I find it a tad annoying that there is barely or not at all any payout for winners at the larger tournaments.

[@scorpioncox8978]

Not only has Yugioh has gotten to the point where you have to whale to win like selling a kidney and mortgaging your house just to afford the newest pieces of cardboard but Konami has failed to realize that powerful generic cards with no restrictions are what’s going to kill yugioh. Like why in the hell is fiendsmith allowed to set up into a snake eyes combo and not lock you in to fiends from the getgo? Don’t get me started on them printing another maxx c as if we haven’t been complaining about that card for literal years, showing that they don’t listen at all.

[@nugzmedallion8929]

I have no interest in playing 3-turn Yu-Gi-Oh tbh. The last time I played the game was around the release of pendulums. I was playing Odd-Eyes Performapal Dracoslayer and I actually enjoyed that format quite a bit. I picked that deck because it had just won Nats (I believe? Maybe a YCS idk) and I also really enjoyed Arc-V. It only cost me about $450 to build the entire deck, extra, and side in singles, and there were other decks as good if not sometimes better than that one at the time that cost less. Not only that, but games still tended to be 5-6 turns at times, and there weren't nearly as oppressive endboards including graveyard interactions back then. The price of admission for new players to be able to be competitively viable right now is ABSURD. I just want Konami to release Rush Duel in the US tbh.

[@isaacn751]

1 card combos are only good with bricks in the combo

[@Papamike24]

I can agree to this. Having all cards be gas can be problematic. Having a brick could slow down some decks a bit

[@isaacn751]

@@Papamike24 in all games you have to give and take , at least put some RnG into a broken game mechanic

[@noneofyourbusiness3288]

As a magic player, the thing that confuses me the most, is that YuGiOh, to my very limited knowledge, has not different formats. There is only one official ban/restricted list and that is it. Magic has different formats with different powerlevels and feels. YuGiOh might also profit from having at least one rotating and one eternal format (rotating means only the newest couple of sets are legal, while eternal means a much larger and stable card pool is available).

[@randommaster06]

Konami's been content to use the OCG as a cheat sheet for what cards topump in the TCG for a while. We could have global releases, but Konami would rather squeeze it's core platers than improve anything and bring in new players.

[@gillett5565]

Will Konami ever change this tho? I’m relatively new to yugioh and even then the last few years have been dominated by expensive decks. Not to say every deck has cards costing 100+ dollars but quite a few had expensive cards. Beyond that I hear from older players formats were bad with DAD decks at their prime being extremely expensive even back then.

[@Drko_Kane]

I dont think any of us have an issue with tire 1 decks, the problem comes from not being able to even play anything else because of the teir 1 decks. Like how do you start with a "bad" hand and still play through hand traps, nib, and still have 3 cards left to follow up comeonman

[@salbaca1104]

Like for me i have played for 20+ years and yesterday I got pilled on by the community for my comment on the konami FB page and that really sucked as while I do not play as often anymore due to health issues from sports that i am fixing and i said in the post YCS Anaheim will be my last competitive event so i can take a break and focus on getting better as my physical therapy people say it will be a long road to undo the damage done but people set me off i do not like playing Control decks as i think it's bad form to play it in competitive yugioh as i have many years experience from my knowledge of Control playing competitive magic years ago and making good money from it before the shop closed

[@TheTravelingMerchant199]

Besides me having my first child I quit playing regularly because of decks like snake eyes/purrely/rescue ace/ king calamity lock etc. It wasn't fun started to invest in goat stuff so I can actually play it with my wife and actually have fun.