Fixing Every Common Problem with Toyota's Last V8 Engine

[@jaywhy85]

I am the owner of this truck. At time of repair it had 118k miles on it. First of all, I'm incredibly grateful to have such a trustworthy and talented technician essentially in my backyard in AMD. He is 100% as friendly and knowledgeable over the phone and in person as he is in the videos. His pricing on the job was more than fair and being able to accommodate me and handle it while I was out of town made it even more budget and schedule friendly. Truck runs like a top and I feel very secure taking it to 250k and beyond. I'm DIY maintenance guy to a certain point. Biggest jobs I've tackled on my own were a timing belt, water pump and motor mount on my wife's 2014 pilot and probably a rear differential replacement in the 2010 Tacoma I owned prior to buying this truck. Never in my wildest dreams would I try to attack this job in my garage. Description of the issue: A loud, intermittent rattle heard from the front driver's side of the engine near the top, which occurred on cold starts after the truck comes down out of a high idle. Typically this started at the 3 minute mark on the trip clock and went away around the 7 minute mark. This timing chain tick first started around 50,000 miles (don't have exact). The truck was still under powertrain warranty. I took it to my closest dealer and gave them the exact description I've written above. Would you believe it? They called me back the day after I dropped it off and didn't hear anything. So off I go to the dealer to show them. Start the truck, wait the 3 minutes and there it is. I'm assuming they started it, didn't hear anything and called it good instead of waiting the 3 minutes as described. Back and forth with this dealership for a while with no answer. Eventually - 3rd drop off I think - they decide to get some regional tech out to look at it. Service manager follows up with me says they can't do anything about the issue because I have an aftermarket oil filter. Never actually told me what the problem was and how they came to the conclusion that the oil filter caused the issue. Here's where I went wrong. Early on in owning the truck I read on a forum that it might be a good idea to swap the plastic oil filter housing for an aluminum one, which I did. This seems to be where Toyota had cause to deny any repairs under warranty. So consider yourselves advised, and I believe AMD has a great video on the subject. The coolant leak was noticed about 6 months ago and the came towers were done proactively since he was already so deep in there. Oil changes on this vehicle were done every 5000 miles +/- a few hundred. Initially I was using Mobil1 0w-20 and then moved to Rotella and for the last 30k Castrol Edge High Mileage with either a Toyota or Mobil1 filter. I'm pretty impressed with how clean the engine is inside. I did try to solve this sticky tensioner issue with a Liqui-moly proline Engine Flush. It didn't change a thing. $5200 is a lot of money, but it's way less than the ~$50,000 it would cost to trade it in for a new Tundra with it's own set of issues. Maybe not everyone's jam, but I'm taking pride in keeping this truck as long as I can.

[@jaywhy85]

about two weeks worth. Maybe 750 miles?@@some-random-bloke

[@dougsmith7195]

Thanks for answering my questions, I have a 2017 with 40,000 miles, I expect it will be my last truck, I hope I can get 20 years out of it. I put most miles on my RAV4.

[@lindanelson8400]

I don't blame you for taking pride in your Tundra. Maintenance is the key to longevity, especially when your goal is long-term ownership. I have an 07 Avalon that has the 2GR-FE that Amd spoke of. I didn't start out to buy the Avalon, I was actually going to look at a couple of used Lexus cars, a LS-430, and a RX-350. I'm glad I saw the Toyota, I absolutely love my Avalon, the best car I have ever owned. Her name is Blue. Guess what color she is.😊 she's become a part of the family. I never intended to own her this long. Originally, she was to just be a daily driver for work. After a few years of absolutely reliable service, I decided I'm close to retirement, I'm going to make her my last car. I'm a stickler for maintenance, I only go 3k miles between oil changes. I retired in 2020. She currently has just over 93,000 miles. Barely broke in. When the day comes that I give up driving, I'll pass her down to someone in the family.

[@Sunandstar13]

5200 isn’t bad, this is a sh!t ton of work.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Thanks for sharing the back story.

[@vanislandsteve]

I’m a master tech for a “high end” company with 45 years experience. There are not many techs I would trust to repair my vehicles. You sir are one of the best I’ve seen. I’m writing this as you know technicians never get the recognition they deserve. Love your channel.

[@ChumpyChicken2]

So what makes his work so good? What part?

[@philipf2705]

@@ChumpyChicken2 Watch this video and the others he's made and you'll get the idea

[@mlo5083]

The part where he removes the "ychicken2" from your name, using the latest Toyota puller.@@ChumpyChicken2

[@COBRO98]

45 years in the field? Perfect example of why no one should be an auto mechanic, strongly underpaid and you'll never get a pension. Save money for retirement? Can't because you're spending $80k on tools and the list never stops growing

[@abdullahipad7664]

@@COBRO98 Speak for yourself. If you have no motivation or drive and want to keep working at shitty chain shops, then sure. A bit of motivation goes a long way in this field.

[@stevejette2329]

About 10 minutes in, my low back started hurting. As a 'Toyota only' guy, I LOVE this channel.

[@daved3948]

😂😂😂 same here, I’m glad he use the husky knee cushion while leaning over the engine bay.

[@67polara]

my back is hurting just thinking about it but then again I don’t wanna know how much this whole job cost at a dealer

[@EarlMantis]

This man has the best Toyota videos on KZbin hands down

[@rightlanehog3151]

🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@cuttheknot4781]

My favorite KZbinr, for sure. I just love this man. His integrity, skill, manner of communication and edification, his patience, honesty...on and on. I love him. Thank you, Sir.

[@robertosantos-vx6pn]

Knowing my car is going to be worked on by a master technician like you makes spending 5000 a lot easier. The owner of this car is one lucky guy. Great video as always.

[@greekmaster1001]

What kind of damage you got that you’re spending 5000? If you don’t mind me asking

[@angellmarrero8326]

This is pinnacle toyota/lexus repair channel, no one comes even close, incredible work, great commentary, great work ethincs.

[@lifeslittlehobbies6088]

I own a 2014 Tundra and have done every one of these repairs myself around 100k. I'm not a full time mechanic and can tell you it took me 7 days to do all three repairs myself. It wasn't easy, and I was in a lot of pain after working on this truck by myself from dusk to dawn for 7 days. That said... I'm still happy I decided to DIY it myself. I saved a ton of money and learned a lot about the 3UR-FE motor. One thing that really helped me was having the Toyota technicians service manual. I did a lot of research, ordered my OEM parts beforehand, and followed the manual exactly and everything came out great. Unfortunately this video wasn't out before I did this job, but I'm sure it will be helpful to the next guy who tries to DIY this repair in the future. Thanks AMD.

[@henrymorgan3982]

You got balls.

[@mikuspalmis]

​@@henrymorgan3982 Patience. Takes balls to have kids.

[@DonutVIP]

​@henrymorgan3982 at times, just gotta suck it up and do it, sucks but once it's replace man you would feel good, didnt know I could do that

[@CraigFutch-qy9mu]

I wouldn’t hesitate on dropping 5k on my tundra to get another 150k miles out of it! Finding someone you trust to do this job is the hardest part.

[@douglaswhitcomb9729]

I had a 2013 Tundra SR5 and bought it new. During a 10,000 mile routine service, I was told that the cam towers were “weeping” oil. The Toyota advisor told me that Toyota had a run of 5.7 engines that had basically contaminated sealant on the towers. The repair was performed completely under warranty and the leak never returned. I now have a 2019 TRD Off Road and have no issues whatsoever. Great videos!!!

[@survivordan2187]

I drove a 2010 Tundra with this engine for 10 years and 200,000 miles. It developed this noise after about 100,000 miles. I lived with it as it only did it cold. It also had the cam tower leak only in the driver side. Not bad, never reached the exhaust manifold so I lived with it. The only replacement I did on this engine was the water pump. I think it’s a great engine. 👍

[@st.schochko9822]

How long did you run it when you noticed the cam tower leak? I just looked at a 2019 and was heartbroken to see "seepage" on the passenger side, that toyota now says is normal. I dont see how a seep is normal in a 5 yr old vehicle, IN A PLACE that is known to fail. I assume the seep will eventually lead to failure as I haven't heard of anyone else who left it. Did you notice oil loss at oil changes? Did you only run it another 10-20k or are you talking like another 100k miles and it never got worse? This was my ONLY concern before purchase, and given the model year and mileage never did I expect to actually see this still being a potential issue.

[@survivordan2187]

@@st.schochko9822-I noticed my leak only on the driver side around 90,000 miles I believe. Passenger side never developed any leak. It was the type of leak that never reached the exhaust manifold and I NEVER had to add oil to the engine. Most Toyota engines will have a small list of “common” problems. Rest assured that Toyota did an exhaustive investigation of the issue. Of course, this engine is now discontinued and replaced with a twin turbo v-6. The issue you have will not cause any harm to your engine, however, Maintenance is key with any Toyota engine. I cleaned the oil leak every 20,000 miles or so just because I’m a bit OCD. Even without cleaning, I don’t think the oil would have reached the exhaust manifold. Most people wouldn’t have even noticed the leak. I have worked in a Toyota engine factory for 25 years and I notice most things about my Toyota engines. Don’t be heartbroken, your engine is one of the most durable, reliable engines ever produced by Toyota. 👍

[@st.schochko9822]

@@survivordan2187 Thanks for the quick response and information. It’s greatly appreciated.

[@caseywoods6773]

@@st.schochko9822Did you end up buying that vehicle? I’m in the same situation you are.

[@st.schochko9822]

@@caseywoods6773 yes, it’s not leaking and it doesn’t appear to be getting worse. I drove around and looked at 7 different 5.7s for sale at dealerships. Only 2 were completely dry. The rest looked much worse than mine and didn’t have issues. I talked to the head mechanic at the Toyota dealership and showed him a picture and he said he’s seen thousands and that one he wouldn’t worry about. He said aside for this and the timing belt tensioner these engines are bullet proof and if it was him he would have no concern buying that pickup. The pickup I bought was out of state so there was no conflict of interest. He was honest.

[@lvsqcsl]

One thing I like about this guy is he is happy to acknowledge that Toyota vehicles have issues. He has stated that he stays very busy repairing Toyotas. Now, maybe not as busy as some other techs that service other brands. Just because that vehicle has a stylized "T" on the front doesn't guarantee anything. Recalls for rust, stuck pedals and the fact Toyota needed a 5 BILLION dollar bailout just underscores they have their issues as well. Scotty Kilmer calls them out as well when they need it. GREAT VIDEO!

[@Warhorse556]

I'd love a similar video on the 1UR-FE. They seem to share many of the same issues mentioned here. Now, if only Ahmed knew someone with a 1UR-FE powered vehicle. "Cough, cough..GX460..cough.."

[@DavidGesswin]

Ahmed you give a new meaning to MASTER Mechanic God Bless.

[@baxter2413]

I have a 2008 Tundra that I bought new. It currently has 186,000 miles on it. For the first 150,000 miles, the truck was flawless. At that point I noticed evidence of bed rust trying to bubble up through the spray in bed liner at the beds mounting points. It rusted from underneath and I had it fixed. Frame is good. Then the secondary air injection valves seized, an expensive fix. I have a cam tower seeping oil on the drivers side that has been happening for a long time but it has never leaked down to the exhaust. Other than those few issues the truck runs great and is still sporting the original water pump, tensioners, etc. Thanks so much for doing this video and all your others…awesome work!

[@jimboclox2252]

20 years working at dealerships,I think warranty labor time guides are purposely cut to save them money. This job your doing is brutal,no sugar coating it, BRUTAL. Hanging over the engine all day like this. I use NAPA's and Identifix's labor guides in my own shop. I love your style of working,organizing and shop cleanliness. ABOVE ALL, you stated Saturday is family day and Sunday is Gods day,THAT my friend sets you apart.

[@jimcharb4230]

AMD you and Jose have the patience of the Saints, great job as usual.

[@fjfgjngfbncvxnbxcv7464]

I watched this 2-3 times and hearing now the how shops charge (45:00? mark). I remember one shop I used to go to always slammed with work from other shops. :D Looks like some shops (nicer) charge the "book" price and send the work to another one, then they split the difference. So much work that now I don't go to that shop and learned how to work on my car since they charge way high now. :(

[@jamram9924]

The 4.7 belt driven version of that engine is one of the very few engines that reached 1,000,000 miles. Toyota brought that engine over from the Lexus side of the house. This owner is smart in that he is taking care of issues well before they become an issue later down the road. Just remember, if it’s mechanical, regardless of brand name, it will need maintenance!

[@iJava91]

The same person that reached 1,000,000 miles on the 4.7 is about to do the same thing on the 5.7 you're watching here. He was at 900k miles last month so should be reaching 1 million mark soon! From what I read, he only had to do the alternator and water pump. Also the transmission went at around 800k miles but he's still on original tensioner & chains.

[@ToyotaAristo]

I can only think of this, the UZ, 3L, 18/22R, Some Volvos, Hondas, Mercedes, Deutz and a couple of old Ford/gm/chrysler v8/v6s that can reach that number. There is also a F150 ecoboost with 1M miles too something i never thought possible on a eco boost. That shows how maintenance is key in every engine.

[@UnitB]

The 4.7 belt driven is a UZ engine. The engine in this video is a UR engine. Both V8’s but totally unrelated otherwise.

[@jamram9924]

@@UnitB Other than the timing belt and water driven water pump how are they unrelated? Toyota used that same 4.7 liter engine on the 4Runner when it used a V8.

[@UnitB]

⁠@@jamram9924everything is different. They’re two separate engines designed about eighteen years apart. The 4.7 UZ is based off the 4.0 UZ that debuted in the original 1990 LS 400. The 4.7 has a timing belt, timing belt-driven water pump, iron block and aluminum heads, shimmed bucket valves, cams installed directly in heads, didn’t get VVT as an option until around 2005, no valley plate to speak of, starter under the intake. The 5.7 UR V8 is timing chain with accessory belt-driven water pump, all aluminum, hydraulic lifter valves with roller-rockers, does have valley plate, starter under exhaust manifold, VVT all years, cams installed in camshaft trays. There isn’t a single part between these two engines that is shared. There is a lot more detailed information on Wikipedia: look up “List of Toyota Engines” and scroll down to UZ/ UR under V8 section.

[@americandude3825]

My 2008 sequoia 5.7L just hit 219k miles. Zero issues except the aux port for the radio and had to replace the radiator hose.

[@jimmylusk4506]

What did you do about the aux port? Mine is cooked in my ‘07 Tundra. Miss listening to music from my phone 😔

[@americandude3825]

@@jimmylusk4506 buy a scosche Bluetooth fm transmitter. I had one for years and it was great. It plugs into the power port and you tube it to a specific channel it says and then hook via Bluetooth to your phone!

[@richardmendez6162]

I had my aux port replaced on my 2008 toyota sequoia limited it work fine now

[@C-M-E]

I ended up doing a massive 150K mileage maintenance job on my 07 Tundra last year, and the manifold gasket job seemed intimidating at first. It was a cakewalk compared to doing the plugs (something you would criss-cross in your mind for difficulty on Most vehicles). While overall the reliability is what sold me on the truck in the first place, the packaging on it is Not particularly great when it comes to maintenance. Things that should take like 45 minutes as most on any other vehicle, on the 3UR Tundras can be an all afternoon job. Ditto on the starter and alternator... After I was done with the whole thing, I swore that I would high five the engineers who did the engine, and simultaneously crotch-kick whoever gave the okay on the packaging on this vehicle! 'Shoehorned' for a DIY driveway mechanic sans a garage is an understatement.

[@tundratime941]

What was difficult about changing the spark plugs on a 5.7?

[@C-M-E]

@@tundratime941 Access primarily. There's something in the way of every single plug, like a major wire loom, or a relay box/bracket in the way of the plug access port; stupid things that you have to move or loosen just to get to the plugs. I used every extension I had as they're pretty deep too, though I didn't have a wobble attachment which would have been helpful to get better angles.

[@macgyver03ga]

188k miles on my 2014 Tundra. Just had my first “major” problem last week. My brake master cylinder took a dump. Only other issue I’ve had was a cracked radiator cap last summer. Easy cheap fix. Did the driver side cv axle at 120k miles (I have a 2.5” lift on Bilstein 6112’s so probably a bit premature due to the lift). Passenger side CV at 170k miles. Otherwise, fluids, brakes, tires, and a couple batteries. My old Tundra (2013 double cab, I traded for a crewmax when we had kids) had the cam tower seal issue when it was pretty new at around 30k miles. My 2014 never had the cam tower seal issue. We just traded my wife’s 4runner for a Sequoia. I was looking at the new ones, but I’m concerned with the issues they’re having with the new engines so I decided to go with a 2nd gen 5.7 instead.

[@richarddevito7711]

You Sir, are a master mechanic! I've done some things in 50 years of car care nuttiness, but I wouldn't attempt this job in my best younger days, especially with engine still in vehicle! The increased complexity of newer vehicles and the training, education and experience required to work on them is really way beyond the capability of the regular DIY. God Bless!

[@charley95sheridan44]

I was a tech in the 80's and most engines were a walk in the park back then. No way today I would even touch something like this project. Being a mechanic is a young guys game.

[@danielclawson2099]

Perfect timing: I am preparing to do this same work myself (a DIY mechanic). Your video covered everything in one swipe, with far superior insight than other videos. Thank You!

[@iJava91]

I recently did this job. If you're just doing the tensioners, you don't even have to pull the intake manifold. It does not prevent you from removing the water pump or timing cover. One suggestion I'll make is make sure to label your timing cover bolts. There are 3 or 4 different sizes and they go all over the place. I took a piece of carboard and drew the timing cover on the board and "installed" each bolt on the cardboard cover so I can easily see where they go after I am putting it back together. Worked great for me. Also, taking the radiator down gives SO much space and makes this way easier.

[@danielclawson2099]

@@iJava91 thanks for the he advice on the bolts. I have seen the "cardboard organizer" method before. As for only doing the valve covers... My main driver is the coolant leakage under the valley plate... So I'll do the secondary air pumps as well (180k miles).

[@mason7300]

@@iJava91if you did this job, what was wrong with the old tensioner? Did you take it apart?

[@is300Gang]

AMD, as always, an excellent, informative, accurate, and professional video. I am an ASE master technician with 17 years of experience myself, and I have a 14 Tundra, with the 3UR-FBE(flex fuel, no big difference). Currently has 126k miles on it, and I'm absolutely in love with the truck minus one thing. The abysmal fuel economy lol. 😅. It's doable. I'm like, very particular about my work, to the point that I have been called 'slow' by some employers(usually the ones who can't afford me but hired be to get their dead bodies off the lot). However my comeback ratio is legitimately 1% over the past 3 years. Do it right the first time!, and that is what I love about you and the unbeatable quality of your work AMD. While I haven't had any issues with my Tundra(other than the notorious rear wheel bearings, have done both), if I do encounter any of the issues in this video, I will definitely be using this video as a guide, or worst case, I will bring it to you, from St. Louis to Chicago(familiar with the place, lived in Glendale Heights for 2 years while in tech college) and glady pay you to take care of it. That's something I legitimately NEVER thought I would say. I ALWAYS do my own work, because after being in this field so long, I have seen first hand many many times 'technicians' that do not deserve that title, not even close to it. You, AMD, have my trust. That's rare, lol, I still count my money when it comes out of the ATM 😂😂. In fact, I would love to work for you. Your shop is immaculate, and looks very welcoming and positive. That does A LOT for worker morale. I'm sure as you know, the differences between a clean shop and a dirty one are important in instilling pride in your technicians, or destroying it with the 'it doesn't matter' attitude. Keep the content coming AMD! You've got a lifetime subscriber here. Actually, I'm going to make the trip to come see you in the near future. I still have friends up there and will just make a weekend out of it. From tech to tech, I appreciate you, and unfortunately the bad apples can spoil the bunch and sabotage the minds of some first time customers because they think a professional, honest technician is 'too good to be true'.

[@DjCBlaq]

I'm pretty certain this is the reason why the first owner of my truck sold it to me. It didn't start making the noise until much later in the day after I drove up to see it before I bought it. Thank you for putting my mind at ease for showing me what the real issue is. Lots of the tundra groups debate back and forth what it actually is. I shared your video with the groups that I'm a part of.

[@iJava91]

I just recently went though this work myself. 60k miles on my 2015 V8 Tundra and has been "knocking" on startup for few minutes until oil pressure builds up. Replaced both chain tensioners and the noise has been now gone. The word you're looking for at 41:20 is "intuition". Comes with experience :)

[@Isaiah013]

Your hard work ethic, your admiration of modern engineering, and your desire to help people has brought you very far.

[@rightlanehog3151]

👏👏👏👏

[@spankyham9607]

I wish when I was a tech 20 years ago, I could have worked for your shop. I might still be doing this work today. You sound like a great shop owner.

[@scottgarvy]

How about a similar video with the 4.6L? 👍

[@Warhorse556]

Yes, please!

[@jeffwilliams8277]

With the exception of the air injection the 4.6 is pretty much the same.

[@yayinternets]

+1. I haven't heard of the tensioner being a failure point on the 4.6 either, is it a thing? It definitely gets the valley plate leak for sure.

[@scottgarvy]

My 4.6 has 240k and runs and drives like a dream. It's been a great truck. Anyone know of a great video on the 4.6L? if so, can you post a link here?

[@tbamagic]

My 2008 5.7 with 150k has some "tick" and "diesel clatter" on cold mornings for about the first 2 minutes. I generally let it warm up before I drive it. And even then, I take it very easy for the first mile or so. And then- viola! - its totally silent. So far, no leaks. So, I'll just soldier on until something really goes south. I love the vehicle and it runs like new.

[@dibaz1]

You blow me away sir but, this kind of detailed work could not be trusted to 95% of the immature/irresponsible mechanic’s out there. You have my utmost respect! I would love for you to do a complete go through with my 91 Toyota Soarer ( Lexus ) RHD 4.0 LTD here in Dallas TX. I just can’t trust anyone here to understand this car! Now that would be a video project lol 😆

[@Alan_S_M]

I just made my first appointment with AMD's shop. I live about 25 minutes away from him. I just completed Toyota's free maintenance on my 2023 Corolla Hybrid. Just going in for an oil change. I hope they can handle it! 🤣🤣🤣

[@perspicator5779]

Too funny!

[@bubba4072]

I've been seriously thinking about making the commute from Georgia once a year so he he can check everything 😄

[@Len10293]

You’re so lucky to have him in your area

[@Alan_S_M]

@@Len10293 I agree. I know he'll treat my Corolla as if it was his own.

[@ingnimrod]

Lol😂

[@dozerman53111]

I agree with your opinion on flat rate. Was an master tech at a Ford dealership. Some of the flat rates I believe Superman himself could not meet !! Great video and for hanging in even when you were sick. I salute you sir.

[@77joeer]

Best video ever! I hate cam towers! Toyota design flaw. My dealer had to reseal both towers that were leaking. 4.6L 2013 Tundra at 38,000 miles. Not a DIY job. It took them 1 one week. Go back to one piece head or use a gasket Toyota.

[@cma8165]

@TheCarCareNut: Thank you for sharing this video with us, your subscribers. It shows how intimidating that job is. And now if you don't mind, would you please tell us, your subscribers the total cost of this repair? We own a 2016 LX570 and it would be good to know what this repair job would cost us. Thank you again!!!

[@f.galvez9301]

Just had my 2014 tundra engine with 175k miles repaired for a head gasket leak in between the 5/7 cylinders. They did both sides and the gasket between 6/8 cylinders was on its way out too. While it was apart they found a small coolant leak coming the of the heat exchanger. Got it repaired, new head gaskets, new timing chain guides and tensioner's. Had a new water pump put in and new belt idle pulley and tensioner and new plugs. Dealer had my truck for 5 weeks and just got it back.

[@tbamagic]

Have you seen his recent video on this 5.7 head gasket problem? Hope you got a big long warranty on this expensive work........

[@kansaidan2302]

I'd take the DAY OFF, too . . . This is one complicated repair. I guess prospective mechanics always come to the realization that 'this job can get complex' at times. Do I want to continue in this career choice? Hats off to the few, like CCN, who love it and continue on to mastery.

[@riceburner4747]

Wow! This is what separates the men from the boys. I agree with the owner. Do it once, do it right. Jose' is awsome, isnt he? Great job as usual AMD. 👏 👍

[@Jantonvid]

❤

[@Len10293]

What ever your hourly rate is you worth each single dime of it and more ! May almighty bless you and keep you, as what ever I now know about cars I learned from your videos.

[@ralphchristopherson782]

I don’t say this enough, just to push the like button: Really appreciate your videos, as a multiple Toyota vehicle owner. ❤

[@stewmeat9261]

I have a 2014 that had the tensioner issue at about 70k. I added Seafoam to oil over span of 3 oil changes or 15k miles and it worked!!! no more chain slap now have 125k and all is quiet on the western front .

[@chadpas14]

I have a 2010 Tundra that has the noise as well and I've thought about doing the samething, adding a little seafoam to the oil to try and clean the oiling system and possibly free up the tensioner. The only thing that keeps me from doing it is, I believe Toyota states in the manual to never add any additves to the oil EVER. Am I mistaken in this?

[@Lzyrslf1]

I'm doing the same thing right now on my 2010. I'm on the second oil change and it seems to be getting better. Has anyone else done this?

[@mitchellbroaddus9120]

Seafoam? Designed for 2 cycle marine engines. ATS 505 worked on my old 2015 Tundra. 148k.

[@Lzyrslf1]

awesome Thank you. @@mitchellbroaddus9120

[@rightlanehog3151]

AMD, Seeing you beavering away at this 5.7 V8 reminds me of the days when you could get a Tundra with a simpler 4.0 V6. 😉This may be the last 'Toyota' V8 but a new twin turbo, 700 hp V8 is on the way for an upcoming Lexus. 🤩

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Is it really in development?

[@sean4577]

Man if they put that in a new isf😮😮

[@leonel9110]

This sounds too good to be true lol that’s what the ISF should have been to compete with bmw in performance

[@tomphillips2608]

Daughter is coming over for me to change her oil on her 3.3l Highlander right now. Love my 2011 4.0 l Tacoma. ❤️ all things Toyota!

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@tomphillips2608 What year was the 3.3 V6 Highlander?

[@kevingreen3923]

I have done 2 starter motors on the UR series V8. One was in a tundra, the other in a sequoia. It calls for 5 hours, and it took me about that long to do it. Toyota says you should remove the exhaust manifold, I didn't do that because both trucks were rusty. It was a pain both times, but if that was the hardest job I have to do, then everything else should be pretty easy. Love your videos, I have learned a lot from them that has been helpful in my job at a toyota dealership.

[@rightlanehog3151]

👏👏👏👏

[@fr6749]

Don't apologize for your labor charges ...A lot of times , labor times were probably carried over from other previous engines ,(models) and may not be updated appropriately. Also I feel they figured the times with engine off the cars.. hope you are feeling better. Great job by the way, blessings!

[@rightlanehog3151]

🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@plasmastorm8]

I have a 2009 Toyota Tundra 5.7L with the 3URFE engine. I'm repairing some of the problems in this video. I love this truck. Great work, great video. In the future, it would be great if countries across the world came together and built one type of car, one type of truck, one type of van, and one type of suv. I'm not saying it would be easy. It would be difficult because of the different demands of different types of vehicles, safety, and emissions laws, but it would get rid of the complexity of the different makes and models. We would have a healthier world, and everyone could work on their own vehicles and get back on the road because everyone would have the same vehicle. IMO.

[@rightlanehog3151]

The way Toyota's market share is growing, that time may be sooner than you think.

[@MikeB-jn2bu]

I had a 09 ls 460 that developed the exact tapping noise at start up that progressively got worse but cleared up at at full temperature. Along with other issues it would have costed me about 10k to fix. Ended up trading it in. Loved the smooth and top end power of this motor.

[@bobwinters2885]

Wow, I think I'll just stick to oil changes on my 2020 tundra. Thanks for that very educational video!

[@papapetad]

Thank you for sharing as always. Blessings to your family and your team at the shop.

[@jdub976]

This would have been a solid 3 or 4 days for me. Very impressive work. Thank you for the video.

[@dougm.635]

When I went from a 4.0L Tacoma (1GR-FE) to the 5.7 Tundra, it made me think " wow just a enlarged 4L!! " The plugs, etc very easy to get to...Still easy to work on except lame design for the oil filter on 5.7L... just wish it was like the 4L ~ unscrew and pop on a new one= no mess! At least the 5.7 doesnt have the ridiculous serp belt tensioner like the 4.0! what a pain to remove- Great video you posted, thanks!

[@csotelo225]

This guy is a genius. I wish I could clone him and transfer him to TX. No Toyota certified mechanics even close to this knowledgeable in El Paso. It seems that Toyotas main engine issues are leaks. My 2008 5.7 Tundra has had a cam tower leak and a rear main seal leak, both repaired. Other than that, no issues.

[@lanceguinn9807]

They had one of these hit a million.... change dat oil!!

[@85CEKR]

My buddy has a TRD pro one of the last years they had this engine, im super jealous of it, its an awesome truck.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Buying that was a mastermind decision.😂

[@85CEKR]

@imnotusingmyrealname4566 ya I live in canada and watching this video got me thinking about this these again, for fun I went on autotrader, there literally only 1 TRD pro with under 100k for sale in all of canada right now

[@coletsonchoke]

I seen a black trd pro for sale in Edmonton at the dealeeship for 50k a month or two ago but sold within the week ​@85CEKR

[@85CEKR]

@coletsonchoke 50k I'd pretty cheap, did it have alot of km

[@Eddiemoney193]

you were not lying when you said most technicians call off when this job comes up, even your assistant went home sick, lol. But great video.

[@eric198457]

Thanks!

[@coreydailey1079]

I have a 2015, with 189,000 miles on it and have been going through this same issue with the tensioner for about a year now. My issue started a minute or so after starting up in the winter to heat up before driving. In that time to now, it has gotten progressively worse, but after my truck is warmed up, the noise subsides and runs great. At the same time, also been stressing about getting it fix for the money and if it’s going to be a ticking time bomb. Im so glad this video has been made to see everything involved in the job and knowing the chances of catastrophe failure is there but not as high as I thought. I have 2 quotes as of now, 1. Being $4,700 and 2. Being $2,500. The difference in the two is the Cam gears, roughly $500 x 2 for intake and $450 x for exhaust, plus added labor time. Thank you again for making this video and the complete list of information!

[@alank2372]

Word: Sixth sense

[@cmiles97x38]

If everything else is good for the truck, it sure beats $50,000 + to replace it.

[@fillupread]

EX Toyota Tech and I have done dozens of these in the shop and once in my driveway without a lift, so it is do-able. I also do not understand the drivers tensioner failure but I will also like to add, the drivers tensioner is always discolored (darker) compared to the passenger. Further, the location of the tensioner in correlation with the guide, there is more leverage against the drivers tensioner as it is lower down to the fulcrum . The passenger side tensioner is right under the passenger side VVT while the drivers side is about halfway down the guide. I assume the engineers compensated for this, but then again, it might also be why the drivers side fails. Food for thought. As for the cost, your are a pretty good deal. Just chain replacements runs about 4K in a shop on a paid job. You adding the additional items and a new heat exchanger, thats a good deal. I used all Toyota parts and I also replaced all 4 chains and tensioners. I replaced all gaskets, spark plug well seals and used FIPG (form in place gasket) from toyota. I got an employee discount from my old dealer and I still had about $900 in parts. Half of that is just the chains. I planned to replace the chains as my truck had 240K on it when I dove in but after pulling the chains and comparing them to the new ones, Zero stretch. I could have saved a good bit of money by not replacing my chains. A few notable mentions. The hoses/plumbing is probably the worst part of the job, but near second to the accessory items that have to be removed (AC, PS, ALT). Had toyota mounted those items only to the block, it would have been fine as you could leave them in place but instead the front bolts thread into the timing cover and the rear bolts mount to the block. VERY IMPORTANT, the alt has a locating dowel that fits around two bolts, which locates the alternator in line with the pulleys. If you lose this dowel or reassemble without it, your alternator may be out of whack and you can start eating belts. Good luck trying to get a new dowel from Toyota. Also, you will need inverted torx to remove a few studs to clear things like the compressor. I understand its possible without but once you remove the nut, then remove the stud using the torx end, then sliding the compressor out of the way is a lot easier. As for the FIPG, the less, the better but always add a glob at the 3 way seams (head to block to cover) etc. I think Toyota suggest less than 1/8th inch bead. And finally, cut the screen off the gasket assembly behind the throttle body. They make a singing/whistling noise when you drive. Once you hear it, its all you will hear. Finally, I love my 5.7 for the power but working on it makes me miss my good ole 2005 Tundra and her 4.7. Stupid simple design, easier to work on, never failed. I'd rather swap a 4.7 timing belt every 100K for a 700K (which I did) than a single timing chain on a 5.7. Is this a DIY job? No. I would say a person will need above average mechanic ability with a good amount of professional time on the job. You may complete it but I will say the no fail success rate is low. You will likely break things and end up with a cam tower or front cover leak and you are highly likely to screw up the chain timing. And if memory serves me, you have to rotate the engine 52 times to get all 4 chain marks back to see if something is off. Considering the labor intensity, I suggest you pull the plugs and do just that before going back together. Also, the front cover has 3 different size bolts and all have a very confusing and specific torque sequence. You screw that up and break that cover, they run about 800 bucks.

[@GlennLaycock]

Labour hours - I remember my first Neon and new head gasket every 52k almost like clockwork - they charged like $800 the first time, then $200 with warranty support by then, then free with had metal head gasket upgrade included. But I talked to the guy the last time and they had the car back to me - it was only a few hours - and the Service Manager said that they had done this repair so often they did it in like 1/4 the time it should - and I remember him saying - we learned a way to not even need to break it all down like we used to.

[@dibaz1]

Wow, that’s crazy 😮

[@bg147]

My Dodge Spirit had the same issue.

[@Worthrhetime]

I bought a 2020 Ltd last year with 33k miles. I hope it’s my forever truck. Changed the oil first thing and again at 38k miles along with both diffs. Transfer case. Also had an OEM transmission cooler, drain and refill fluid. Power Stop extreme breaks and rotors, Stellen ran air box, filter and air ride air bags. It pulls my 18 ft . Camper over the Colorado Rockies so I hope I am doing the proper care and feeding. Wish you were my mechanic but so glad and appreciate your knowledge. Thx for sharing.

[@bubba4072]

This is wonderful! I have the same truck in quicksand. Now I know what to keep an eye out for. It's the best vehicle I've ever owned. It's 8 years old and has never broke down. I've replaced the brakes, wipers, and I regularly replace all fluids.

[@JeremyAnthony-w2r]

This is got to be one of my favorites videos. Great job AMD.

[@jimandmaryadventures]

I had a 2008 Tundra SR5 TRD Offroad Crewmax that I put 240,000 miles on. The engine did not make noise and did not burn oil. No leaks, no ticking, nothing. I traded it in on a 2021 Land Cruiser. Kinda wish I had kept it now. Miss that truck. It and the Land Cruiser would make the perfect combination.

[@georgiafan6618]

FWIW, Toyota sent a bulletin to dealers in 2022 about the 0W-20 (too thin) oil used for mpg. They recommended 5W bc they were seeing issues with rotating components wearing prematurely. I had 2 cracked rings at 120k. Got a new bottom end (long story) and using 5W-20 full syn. My prior motor was spotless inside from my maintenance. A Toyota master tech did the job, only he works on my truck now. He’s very thorough, cognizant and intelligent. The DOHC makes for big labor costs. Cam cradle looks very clean here ☝Everything seems clean 👍

[@kleveshellhorn6436]

LOL, 0W20 and 5W20 is the same oil, The 0W an 5W is what the oil can be used for in colder climates. Both are still 20 weight oil.

[@mr.mr.3301]

Where can I find that and for which vehicles?

[@georgiafan6618]

@@mr.mr.3301 Call Toyota. My tech alerted me and my oil type was changed as a result.

[@mr.mr.3301]

@@georgiafan6618 for all Tundras or just the 23 and up. I would have e thought 0-30 would have been the way to go.

[@Len10293]

I watch each of your videos several times as unfortunately I am not mechanically inclined. Your channel is the best on KZbin

[@rightlanehog3151]

Those of us who would never attempt a job of this complexity learn exactly what we are paying the mechanic to do.

[@Len10293]

@@rightlanehog3151 And why it’s cost what ever it cost !

[@The1andres8]

i have my 2018 tundra and i always change the oil every 5000 miles and almost hitting the 100000 miles my tundra one day i will like to meet your shop salutes from arizona

[@senglee2330]

Can you do a common problem detailed video on a 22RE timing chain and guide replacement? Love your detailed explanations!

[@07bmack]

Best Toyota tech on YT, real pro. My ‘07 5.7 had to have the air injection pump fixed, it developed the cam tower leak on the psgr side. Still ran great at 212k when a collision put it to pasture. Replaced it with an ‘18.

[@RolexDSSD]

Another great video of a solid rig !!! Beast of a motor.

[@boomlightsout]

My gs460 with the 1urfse has the annoying timing chain tensioner rattle at startup as well. Glad to know its not a grenading type problem. Thanks TCCN!

[@lilred1107]

CCN is a godsend, the knowledge and professionalism is unmatched. It's also so good to hear someone tell it like it is as there are people that think Toyotas are maintenance-free and you just drive it whereas other brands are all trash if something needs a repair.

[@rightlanehog3151]

👏👏👏👏

[@tomc8115]

The fact that you leave in your (very rare!) mistakes and talk through them with us is a rare thing. You, good sir, are a treasure. 🙏🙏

[@cherishctz]

One complaint: why there are not many AMD in this world!? I need one near me!❤

[@kakaliac]

One of the best techs ever. Great job man. Many props! 👏👏👏

[@eliza295]

Have the 2017, love how it looks. The V8 is awesome. Your channel is so helpful👍🏻

[@skoodercrunch2821]

I’ve had a 2008, 2012, 2007, and 2023…in that order. All 5.7V8 except for the 2023 and never had any leaks or issues with the 5.7 powered vehicles. I’m not real happy with the 2023 Capstone, as I’ve had several relays and sensors fail in the 1.5 years that I’ve owned it. I’m now considering purchasing a 2021 TRD Pro as the last Tundra I ever own.

[@justtl5885]

Another outstanding video. Thank you Ahmed for what you do for us Toyota owners and enthusiasts.

[@MichaelDevlin-s8r]

That truck sounds beautiful after you finished. I’ve got a little noise from my Sequoia. When it gets bad I’ll make an appointment with your shop!

[@GraemeRobinson]

Fascinating video car care nut - you are doing the mechanics of the world a great service by going into such detail on such a big job to show us everything involved - I appreciate the work of mechanics more and more as I watch these videos.

[@rightlanehog3151]

🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@eddiebski]

Thanks for the great videos. I learn a lot. I think the term you are looking for is a sixth sense.

[@timothymarshall9631]

Great video. Hats off to you guys for the great work you do and the attention to the small details. Wish I lived closer to get you all to do the service work for my Toyotas

[@dougsmith7195]

My 2019 4.6L was way smoother than my current 2017 5.7L, maybe it’s the chain slapping around. Great video, thanks for the detail!!!

[@realfreedom5029]

As always great work Ahmed!

[@ImOnlyaMAN88]

There’s no many of these engines out there, hopefully your video inspired many technicians to do the same honest work.

[@teddekkerfan92]

I purchased a adjustable engine stand and have a 2urfse (it's going to be installed in a ls460) and thought about cranking the handle to rotate it to replace the oil pan and did not like how the stand was leaning. I agree it's a large engine for it's displacement

[@seumasmackinlay]

That was eye opening. Thanks for sharing the process and your thoughts. 😁

[@GlennLaycock]

I remember Chryslers original Intrepid and how cool it was that the V6 was sitting correctly in it - so you could see both sides very easily. But not appreciated and so common with V6 to only have easy access to the front 3 cylinders.

[@peteandaliciaaiello9788]

your professionalism is off the charts! cleanliness and organization is amazing! love watching your channel !

[@chief1193]

I think a B lot of these problems with the 5.7 is the thin oil recommendation 0w20. When I was station in Bahrain and Dubai, the Land Cruiser 200 is very popular and they run 20w50 and they have so many on the road with over 300k and they never have these problems. You can you tube search “ Land Cruiser oil change in Middle East” and watch them putting 20w50 oil in these engines. I bought a 21 LC and I run 5w40 in it. But that .0w20 is nothing but manufacturers meeting the US CAFE regulations. This same engine in other parts in the world recommend 15w40 in this engine.

[@doncraft917]

Thank you for this suggestion, I've always wondered about that. Did you see much change in the mileage? I'd obviously take the hit in the mileage in order to prolong the engine life.

[@samirchpk1]

I’m using 5w-30 in LC 200 no mileage issues

[@brianlewis8417]

I LOVE the cost breakdown...I could watch this all day.

[@JJJ5.7]

You are one of the best on KZbin. How many miles on this truck?

[@jaywhy85]

118000 at time of repair

[@spookerr]

Bought mine used 2012 5.7 in Feb. 2023. Timing chain noise started approx 2 months later. Put oil dye into motor. Took to local ASE Master Techs for new OEM chains tensioners, guides etc. Truck is accident and rust free. Was sold as a Toyota CPO in 2018 to owner #3. I am 4th owner. 1st Toyota ever owned. NO CAM Tower Leak. But small coolant leak by pipe in front of intake manifold. Price was $3700 cash. Good news is. Small timing cover seepage, valve cover oil seepage, intake manifold area coolant pipe leak, stripped tensioner hex bolt, was fixed "for free" as part of doing this timing chain job. Along w new tensioner/idler pulleys, acc belt, new plugs all new gaskets. Water pump, radiator, thermostat, etc was done by previous owner #3 about 3 years ago already and by the Toyota dealer, have all records, locally owned, not auctioned all over the country. NO WONDER I got this 2012 Tundra 5.7 DC 4x4 with 135k miles, no rust no accidents for approx $5k below market price at that time, $15.4k plus tax, tags. Thought about 'getting rid of' this Tundra for maybe another(?) BUT, better the devil you know, than the devil you don't know.... So I will keep this Fundra.as it gets used off road periodically. I have the old chains, guides and dreaded timing chain tensioners the mechanic gave back to me. I should make a necklace out of it all. 🤔

[@StephenSmith-it5zy]

Fantastic video! Question: Did Toyota update/correct the design of the driver’s side chain tensioner you installed or did you just install a new tensioner with the same design? Thank you again for a great video.

[@MEU2k]

If possible do show the refrigerant recovery and restoring in big Toyotas. I think they may have special procedures for cool box functions.

[@kimlambert200]

Thank you so much for this video! Unfortunately, I live in a city where there aren't a lot of shops I trust to work on my 09 LX570 with 180k miles, which has the same noise. It's on my wish list to drive the vehicle from Canada to your shop, and you can check if there's anything wrong with it.

[@rightlanehog3151]

You would not be the first Canadian to have work done in his shop.

[@thebulgarianguy8461]

$5200 is a bargain for this job. Also, I’d consider these failures a total buster for the Toyota reliability but most owners will never admit it. When my tundra develops them, I’ll make an appointment.

[@K021youtube]

Congrats for this video. Looks awesome definitely not duy... really like the transparency and the honesty....

[@nickrobles2946]

Bro you’re amazing and your honesty is so great in this! I have done this job before but I found it so much easier on my back if you just remove the cab and work on everything with the cab off and engine on the frame, so much room to work with and not a killer on your back and belly, just thought I put it out there! Other than that, great job man love learning from you and your perspective on things

[@mouthbreathermtb4192]

I have fixed this before chain tapping. If you dig into TIS enough AMD, you will find a New Car Feature description of that Tensioner Gasket. The gasket is intended to regulate and improve oil pressure to that specific tensioner.

[@snooketcher]

Thanks for the heads up on the labor time on this job AMD! I’m sure your notes will come in handy one day. I get all the timing jobs at my shop✌️

[@snasuage]

I pinched that oring on my first attempt at the heat exchanger plate 🤦🏼. Pouring coolant after putting everything back together. Is that timing chain tensioner not building pressure on cold starts a big issue in the long run? Have you ever seen engine failures because of that? Thanks! Love your vids