Rome's last battle against the Traditional Latin Mass.

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[@Steveaux85]

I know Catholics that denounce the Tridentine Mass that have never attended one. The TLM changed our family forever. The TLM guided me to actually be a practicing Catholic. TLM forever!

[@gingerbaker757]

🕯 AMEN 🕯

[@anacantiello7601]

Well said! Thank you for being our voice about the Mass of the Ages, the faith and morals of The Catholic Faith for the pass 2023 years!

[@LambofGodKnock]

The TLM saved my mass going. I just couldn’t go to the NO mass anymore, I witnessed so many wrongs. But God guided me to a TLM church and I’ve been so happy there

[@roxannearmstrong1219]

Our family experienced the same thing. Thanks be to God, we were guided another route through Our Blessed Mother.🌹🙏

[@cathka3429]

There was a sense of awe while participating in the Latin Mass

[@davidhawkins5329]

Hmmmm wherever my Lord is, is special. You get out what you bring. How disposed you are to receive His Grace. Form doesn't matter, if my Lord is validly and substantially there. Brother .

[@MsDormy]

I know what you mean. There are angels there.

[@erikriza7165]

we all knew it was about God, and we were in God's Presence. It wasn't just about US being happy happy happy, celebrating and worshiping each other.

[@roxannearmstrong1219]

The gig is up, and we know what we as the Catholic faithful have been deprived of for decades. We will NOT let the traditional Mass go, and we will die keeping it alive and vibrant. I am in Alberta Canada, I am a convert to the faith, a homeschooling mother of five, and the next generations know the difference. We aren't abandoning the truth. We aren't going anywhere. 🙏

[@MsDormy]

Roxanne I send my love and prayers from Wales, UK. I also homeschooled my children (teenagers now) and I have found a TLM some way away from us, but it’s worth the drive. God bless you and your family. ❤️🙏

[@philominaeapen9240]

Thank you for speaking up for Christ and His people ❤✝️🙏🏼

[@geordiewishart1683]

Christ or anti Christ?

[@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM]

God bless you RN for telling it just like it is!

[@asaxr]

What a blessing to get approval from THE Father Mawdsley. 🙏🙏🙏

[@tc9459]

I just found my way back to Church through the Latin mass, my journey has been long. TLM touched my soul in ways I never thought. I feel like many faiths are capitulating to this woke culture and the fact we are not standing on truth. Read The Keys of this Blood, especially the works of Antonio Gramsci, this is part of his plan coupled with globalization.

[@kzbaby2002]

Robert, did your parents ever talk about the Latin Mass? My parents were brought up in the Latin Mass. My dad was a server for years. My parents were devout Catholics. But they never said they wanted the TLM back. My mom thought it was wonderful when it went to English. And I never heard my mother complain about communion in the hand. I guess they were all brainwashed into thinking “modernizing” was good? Now that I know more I’m bothered that the priest faces the people and that there are no communion rails. Yesterday as we were standing and singing the Gloria the priest is off to the side facing us and I was thinking we are giving worship to God so shouldn’t the priest and all the people be facing the tabernacle? It hit me as so strange.

[@catherinek9327]

Yes: it mystifies me why it is appropriate to bow or genuflect to the altar, which is essentially empty, instead to face the tabernacle, which is off to the right, or to the left, when so doing?

[@johnsteiner2960]

I have had the very same if not similar feelings as yourself, my father's Piedmontese Italian grandmother always made sure that he attended the Mass during the 1950s and early to mid 60s he too was an altar server and has always complained to me that the Mass was very impersonal, the priest always faced away from the people and no one understood Latin or what was going on, the New Mass is so much better ect ect same complaints that you would hear from baby boomers and my mother may God bless her was the one who made sure that me and my brother and sister attended the NO Mass(because at that time it was the only Mass offered)and received our Sacraments not my father but my mom, never questioned about communion in the had or the folky worship songs and irreverent practices. Now I am married with six beautiful children three sons and three daughters, we attended the TLM at a diocesan parish in SLC Utah the only parish which offers it on Sundays at 330pm, my son who is now 13 yrs old has been an altar server for the last two years and is very involved in it, unfortunately my father still as the same attitude, he can not understand why we would be interested in the old rite. Any way that's all Inhave to say God bless ya.

[@doloresnolan5949]

It's the leadership of the Laity that has the church at a standstill.Some are living in sin noone will dare say this .some dont attend mass others are pro abortion

[@catherinek9327]

And then: approaching what is the high point of the Mass, we're invited to greet our neighbour!!! This has become a real DISTRACTION to the Eucharist - the evil one must be having a right laugh!!! Also, the next step is to receive the Host in the palm of the hand, which has probably shaken the neighbours' hands - do you know if their hands were clean (never mind the horror of using a hand sanitizer on the Body of the Lord!)? How must He feel??? History will never relate the answer to that!!!

[@aineoscanaill2377]

It drives me nuts that people (even the priest) don’t genuflect in front of the Tabernacle in the new mass. The lack of dignity and respect is so sad.

[@valentinr.dominguez2892]

Thankfully societies such SSPX will always be guardians of the actual Mass.

[@topercaker2646]

Aren't they in schism?

[@johnmorgan4313]

No. Not in schism. 🌴

[@josephososkie3029]

When I was reading the Catholic Reporter ( gift subscription) years ago, it seemed to me that the post-VCll people were focused on criticizing TLM because it was the flagship of traditionalism. Now, sadly, as Robert stated it may just be because it’s a such a weapon against evil!

[@imeldatobin7243]

For as long as Michael Matt has breathe in his body, the TLM will never be supressed. Let's follow his example!

[@roxannearmstrong1219]

We are many, and we aren't going anywhere. 🙏

[@jackieann5494]

The grace that pours from the Latin Mass ....

[@christophervigil4961]

Thank you for your spirit, and your words 🙏

[@sklenars]

My Irish mother thought the new mass was wonderful as it appeared to be over in no time and the attendees could rush out the door to the pub or to get the dinner ready. She thought that prelates like Archbishop Lefebvre who opposed the changes were old fuddy duddies stuck in the past. Our parish priest who was ordained round the same time as the changes pointed out to me that they (The Vatican) couldn't usher in all the changes at once as people would get suspicious of what was happening, but slowing introduced the new bits like speaking in the vernacular following by the priest facing the people and eventually abandoning the altar for the wooden table as the so called protestant reformers demanded 500 years ago. All designed to be acceptable to our "separated brethren"

[@geordiewishart1683]

I know how you could make it acceptable to Protestants: Stop claiming that a magic incantation of a priest drags Christ down from heaven. Stop claiming that the bread and wine become literal flesh and blood. Stop claiming that Christ has to be sacrificed because his death on the cross wasn't sufficient

[@sklenars]

@@geordiewishart1683 Begone Satan

[@geordiewishart1683]

Sklenars, thank you for reminding me about another popish falsehood, that Peter, and not his confession only that Christ is the son of God, is the rock upon which the church is built. Cos not long after Peter made that confession, Jesus rebuked him by saying "Get thee behind me, Satan" . Isn't that what you meant?

[@andrejgrebenc3235]

@@geordiewishart1683 Christ was sacrificed once for all times. Read the Bible. Sacrifice is only represented, not amended.

[@geordiewishart1683]

Would this be the bible that the Catholic church banned the layiety from reading?

[@happyme2000]

Thanks Robert. I love the images behind you especially the picture of Jesus on the cross. God bless

[@guillermoal1667]

They can try but they will never get rid of the TLM! Never!!!

[@kristinas.2673]

Good question Robert, why break with Tradition?. Because evil hates it and there is so much evil roaming around Rome, they would prefer to die in mortal sin than let Tradition flourish. God help them and convert them.

[@suzannelove5147]

When it comes to the difference btwn the TLM & the Norvus Ordo mass difference (other than the obvious reverent differences) I hear that the constructs are the same. Some of that is true. But if you’ve ever try to make baked goods you quickly realize that the order, even the separation of ingredients is critical to achieving a beautiful creation. The same with the mass. If you change the order or use too many “substitutions” it will not turn out to be edible. Every ingredient matters. Even the external matters (the cleanliness of the oven & pans; the size and temperature of the ovens, etc). It may appear the same, but the outcome proves it is not. Just saying, in my humble opinion.

[@andrejgrebenc3235]

Do you take the blood of Jesus at the extraordinary form?? Most important ingredient.

[@roxannearmstrong1219]

Beautifully said.🌹🙏

[@gingerbaker757]

Well Done! 👏What a stellar analogy ! 🌟

[@madeleine7]

Thank you and God bless.

[@bohmao]

There are some very good videos on KZbin which compare the TLM with the NO Mass. It seems that any prayers that a protestant might object to were removed from the NO Mass. Why????

[@geordiewishart1683]

Tp be fair, Protestants object to the entire notion of the Mass, recognising it to be unbiblical

[@raymondpronovost2479]

Excellent presentation - balanced, generous and proper charity while objective throughout.

[@bellanegrin3915]

By the way, I am so glad I found your channel!

[@Dee-mj3pu]

Such hostility from Francis.

[@valentinr.dominguez2892]

Let's not forget about divorce. Divorce is the greatest destroyer of marriage and there is very little commentary about it.

[@robertgonzalez9444]

Your insights are 100% on target

[@KMF3]

I like that quote nobody comes into the world except through the womb of their mother. I'm definitely stealing that one

[@KMF3]

@@kevinkelly2162 yes of course but for the pro aborts the logic is lost on them.

[@KMF3]

@@kevinkelly2162 crazy "logic". Of course people are pro-abortion. I used to be. I'm now anti abortion and anti contraception. I believe sex is beautiful and good between a married couple, one man one woman as God has ordained.

[@patriciabyrne5089]

@@kevinkelly2162 He was been sarcastic ☺

[@stevedavis6618]

We are experiencing a true battle against the One and Only Holy Catholic Church that Jesus Christ Himself established here on earth for us. We need a new St. Joan of Arc to organize and lead us to fight the evil that is destroying the Church from without and within.

[@LynnJorredeStJorre]

This is from the Canada's Life and Family newsletter which says: "Pope Francis named five people who dissent from Catholic teaching on abortion and contraception, including economist Mariana Mazzucato, an atheist who criticized the Dobbs decision and calls for 'safe abortions' to the Pontifical Academy for Life." (The Interim, November 2022, pg. 17). Wow!

[@tellyhow6281]

Not safe from hellfire for sure.

[@bluebird5949]

Thank you

[@KMF3]

I'm sure it won't be the last time that they try to get rid of the traditional Latin Mass

[@trudiliffey1399]

Indeed we have been robbed of the truth!

[@2macca746]

I would love to know what Christ would have said the apostles if they spent this much time arguing over the correct way to worship.

[@RogerBuck]

Great, great, great . . . Big warm : - ) .

[@gollum19671967]

I believe they didn't use the Roman Canon as a snub to Pope Benedict cos the Modernists loathe him. That's why they didn't use a hearse either and didn't fly the papal flag at half past as they did in various other countries. It didn't go unnoticed in Italy. Also Pope Francis homily was basic and he down played Benedict while world leaders were a lot more complimentary.

[@tellyhow6281]

The Vatican disrespected Pope Benedict XVI.

[@sueadauctus3306]

The way you pray is the way you believe. I watch my siblings faith being forgotten in the English Mass because of its casual happy lukewarmness. The Mass is a sacrifice, otherwise Daniel Ch 11:31 about end times is wrong.

[@sherylagli2333]

Perfectly said!

[@MrDa47ve]

I agree totally with you on this

[@heneverreturnasahorse9773]

May the Lord have mercy on us all! Humanism is the new religion of the Bride of Christ.

[@jacknicholasny]

We used to “Say” the Mass not celebrate. I much prefer the older usage.

[@zethmahilum5242]

If it's the same....why must change?GOD BLESS US ALL ALWAYS

[@drenamir1647]

You probably won't like my opinion, but I want to share it with you anyway: I am Catholic, born and raised in the Latin Mass. It always annoyed me that I didn't understand what was going on at mass, because I didn't understand Latin as a child. When they introduced the mass in my language, I was in high school and my peers and I were overjoyed to finally understand what was going on. It is also a fact that God spoke to His first Christians when they "received the Holy Spirit" in their own languages and not in Latin. The problem of the great apostasy, in my opinion, is not the Mass in the language of the nations, but that the world has rejected God regardless of the language in which the Holy Mass is celebrated. Apostasy is done in the heart and not in the language in which we glorify God. Apostasy is the result of clerics losing their faith and no longer knowing how to speak well of the Beloved God. Material overabundance also gave believers the feeling that they no longer needed God.

[@gollum19671967]

Many clergy have been badly formed in semenaries. I should know. I was one of them. I left the seminary the majority of what was taught was either wishy washy or heresy.

[@patrickmelling8404]

Also because the new rite has a problematic structure, where the Eucharist is a footnote. I disagree that is beautiful in itself. It's humdrum and lifeless, to the young adults - and older adults - who flock to the veru beautiful TLM. Liturgy is 9/10 of the problem.

[@johncollins8304]

I remember as a child in Kilburn (or Hampstead?), London seeing the walls of a church fit to heaving being supported by loads of bored but present Irishmen, no doubt working far from home. It was one of half dozen Masses that morning. Way in front I could see over the heads of the kneeling masses a lone figure with his back to us mumbling some incantation. I wasn't even Catholic, had just wandered in, but thought 'why doesn't he tell them what's going on?'

[@drenamir1647]

@@andrewd6074 At the Tower of Babel, the only common language of the builders was proplem. See Genesis The Tower of Babylon 11 1 At first, the people of the whole world had only one language and used the same words. 2 As they wandered about in the East, they came to a plain in Babylonia and settled there. 3 They said to one another, “Come on! Let's make bricks and bake them hard.” So they had bricks to build with and tar to hold them together. 4 They said, “Now let's build a city with a tower that reaches the sky, so that we can make a name for ourselves and not be scattered all over the earth.” 5 Then the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which they had built, 6 and he said, “Now then, these are all one people and they speak one language; this is just the beginning of what they are going to do. Soon they will be able to do anything they want! 7 Let us go down and mix up their language so that they will not understand each other.” 8 So the Lord scattered them all over the earth, and they stopped building the city. 9 The city was called Babylon, because there the Lord mixed up the language of all the people, and from there he scattered them all over the earth.

[@MsDormy]

There was always the translation available in the missal! Also, I do enjoy some NO masses in my own language. But the choice to also attend the old liturgy is a wonderful gift.

[@patrickfahey6722]

Well said.

[@Dee-mj3pu]

YES, give us Christ, not the world!!

[@taxfree4]

A Protestant mass, like the Novus Ordo, said in Latin is still a Protestant Mass. Quo Primum was, is and always will be their greatest obstacle. Not even a pope can stop a priest from celebrating the Traditional Latin Mass.

[@Pervirtutempax]

I like you very much. You are a good and devout man of God. I agree with most of what you say. I am a Traditional Catholic convert from Presbyterianism (not a "radtrad"). I pray the Rosary in Latin every day. But I don't think I am somehow "holier" than those who pray in English. I am registered as a Knight at the Foot of the Cross in the Militia of the Immaculata. I am consecrated to Mary and She protects me in spiritual warfare against the enemy. But only God Himself makes me "holy", not from this poor sinner. I go to the both Novus Ordo and the TLM. They are both valid. Jesus Christ told St. Faustina, "The Devil can imitate humility, but he cannot imitate obedience." St. Padre Pio said, "Without obedience there is no virtue." Do we not believe that the Holy Spirit watched over Vatican II? Or that our Lord Jesus Christ cannot control his own Church? Remember, there was a time when there were two popes excommunicating each other. The Church managed to survive that. Both forms of the Mass can exist side-by-side. It would behoove you to focus more on the liberal evils of homosexuality, humanism, relativism, worldliness, synodality and ecumenism plaguing the Church and lay off of griping about how the Mass is performed (properly, of course). NO CLOWN MASSES! Hahaha. Countless millions of Catholics have maintained their faith in both our Lord Jesus Christ and in the one true Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church through the Novus Ordo Mass for 60 years. And, yes, you frequently criticize how the Host is recieved and other nitpicking about the Liturgy that only causes doubt and division. However, I agree, if the Traditional Latin Mass is done away with, it would it would be a tragic and unacceptable loss for the Church. If this were to occur, I would become very angry, and speak out against it in my diocese! Having said all this, I wish you all the best, and pray that our Lady Mary Immaculate watches over and protects you. ❤️‍🔥⚔️

[@catherinek9327]

Her Immaculate Heart will triumph.

[@djq9332]

@Jason McLaren Congratulations Jason and welcome home. O mi Jesu, dimitte nobis peccata nostra; libera nos ab ignibus inferni; perduc omnes animas in caelum, praesertim maxime indigentes. Amen. O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to Thee, and for all those who do not have recourse to Thee, especially for the enemies of the church and for all those who are commended to Thee. Salve Regina!

[@geordiewishart1683]

Catherine, so Jesus won't triumph? But the heart of a dead sinner will?

[@Pervirtutempax]

@@geordiewishart1683 Of course, Christ will triumph in the end. He will judge us all.

[@Pervirtutempax]

@@djq9332 Thanks. Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in sæcula sæculorum. Amen. May our Lady Immaculate always protect you!

[@monicahocking1507]

Thank you Fr. Wonderful to hear a fearless and honest priest. God bless you.

[@johnharkness6304]

He's not a Priest.

[@mairint3975]

Robert is a layman. Not an ordained priest...would that all priests today speak as truthfully and faithfully as Robert.

[@gingerbaker757]

Yes, Robert went to Seminary but had a vocation to marriage.

[@roystonfarquhar9683]

Why would they want to ban the Old Mass? Find out what is at the bottom of this drive and then proceed. I am not a Catholic but I do follow the goings on in religious circles. From where I am it appears that this current pope is hell-bent on establishing a "new Catholic Church" . Whether it will orthodox or even Christian remains to be seen.

[@bellanegrin3915]

Robert, thank you for speaking so simply and logically about the truths we need to be Catholic. If there are those who do not agree with our doctrins and dogmas, we will not force them to be Catholic. Although we would love to have them convert to Catholicism, we will not force them. I am confused about why Rome is so bent on changing our fundamental beliefs. What is the agenda here? Is it as Hildebrand says? Because Satan hates the Latin mass? Or is there something more diabolical going on here?

[@bullirish]

Amen.

[@DadSoderberg]

It is called Protestant. The Synod is the geniuses to make Catholicism just another ‘religion’😢

[@KMF3]

Hell-bent is absolutely the right term

[@duaneadams5210]

The modern Protestantized "mass" modernized me right out of the church and I because a Protestant. After all, that is what the modern Catholic Church wanted. It was the finding of the Traditional Latin Mass that brought me back to the Catholic Church. Now that the TLM is no longer available in my area, the Protestant Church is looking better again.

[@ScreamingReel500]

"Study Of The Word Of God Now all the doctrines in which the faithful are to be instructed are contained in the Word of God, which is found in Scripture and tradition. To the study of these, therefore, the pastor should devote his days and his nights, keeping in mind the admonition of St. Paul to Timothy, which all who have the care of souls should consider as addressed to themselves: Attend to reading, to exhortation, and to doctrine, for all Scripture divinely inspired is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct injustice, that the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work." ___Council of Trent Catechism (page 12)

[@KMF3]

So have a question if you don't use the Roman cannon in the new mass is it valid? Is the consecration valid???

[@dalecaldwell]

Wpw! A great video, even if it did lead me into temptation. (I covet your statue of Our Lady of Wasingham.) I don't want this comment to become too long, but I should be hon.est up front and say that I am a priest in the Old Catholic Church, which boke from the Pope in 1870, and, alas, although we officially used he Gregorian Rite when I was ordained, nearly everyone I know uses some sot of the Novus Ordo now, I guess to be fashionable. Also I sshould say that I am same-sex attracted and find your videos much more supportive of me as a human being who is moe than my desires--even if they are for your Wasingham statue. Gay marriage is an oxymoron. Personally I am feeing drawn to Roman Cathoicism, and the local parish is fairly 'normal', with n a new building with traditional ordering--well, traditional except for the altar for celebration facing the people. But the Catholic Church in general, at least in its european segment . . . . It seems that burden of peruasion should fall on the one who wants to change things, not the one who wants to keep things. If the new Mass is the same as the old Mass, then why do we need the new Mass? Miles Coverdale, who translated the Psalms fom the Vulgate into the most beautiful English, also translated the Roman Mass. The Missal I use has the Latin and Coverdale's translation on facing pages. Maybe Mass in the vernacular is a good thing, but I'm not convinced that it i, but if it is, then why not use a respectful translation of the tradition of the western Church for centuries?

[@marychristiansen6024]

The Latin Mass - Fr. Chris Alar of the Marians of the Immaculate . a great instruction, as all of his talks are, is worth listening to. . He does this without denigrating anyone.

[@susanbelida6981]

I told my priest I want latin Mass. He looked at me strangely and said nothing. I'm disgusted.

[@Kings0375]

One can look at it from either angle, but Pope Benedict XVI did prophecy that the Church would shrink; now, if the Catholic Church moves forward with an Apostolic Constitution to further regulate the use of the Latin Mass, I hear and read many people saying they will leave the Church and go underground or join a group such as the SSPX. So would the Catholic Church under Francis then shrink as Benedict said, or is it those who went underground the "shrunk Church"?

[@joey51016]

Latin Mass all the way

[@sajinisunil8495]

John 17 : 17 His Word is Truth!

[@dianawilde417]

The TLM (the true Catholic faith) stands in the way of the Popes'Abu Dabhi one world religion by 2030. That's the issue.

[@lolly9080]

I am not Catholic but I am believer and I have just started catching up with what is going on in the Vatican, and I do not like what I am seeing right now. The return of Ahriman on to the planet has to be fought right now. Keep your traditions and your ancient mass. I don’t think you can have gay marriage in church as it’s not in the bible. Reference Secret of the warrior monks by Rudolf Steiner

[@jy7383]

+ A.M.D.G. There is no comparison between the TLM and the NO. The first is a sacrifice ---- the second is a dinner party. On my travels before 1960 I sat through sermons in at least ten different languages ----- from Gallic to Chinese ---- including Iban, Shona and Gurkhali ----- and the Mass was always EXACTLY the same. There can only be ONE TRUTH ----- the rest is private opinion.

[@robertepperson5422]

Robert, you must be against Sin and anti Christ teachings in the "Church" We must stand with Christ and oppose with all our might the Anti Christ. Pray the Rosary every day 😊

[@ScreamingReel500]

"Need of an Authoritative Catholic Catechism But while the preaching of the divine Word should never be interrupted in the Church, surely in these, our days, it becomes necessary to labour with more than ordinary zeal and piety to nourish and strengthen the faithful with sound and wholesome doctrine, as with the food of life. For false prophets have gone forth into the world, to corrupt the minds of the faithful with various and strange doctrines, of whom the Lord has said: I did not send prophets, yet they ran; I spoke not to them, yet they prophesied. In this work, to such extremes has their impiety, practiced in all the arts of Satan, been carried, that it would seem almost impossible to confine it within any bounds; and did we not rely on the splendid promises of the Saviour, who declared that He had built His Church on so solid a foundation that the gates of hell shall not prevail against it, we should have good reason to fear lest, beset on every side by such a host of enemies and assailed and attacked by so many machinations, it would, in these days, fall to the ground.For - to say nothing of those illustrious States which heretofore professed, in piety and holiness, the true Catholic faith transmitted to them by their ancestors, but are now gone astray wandering from the paths of truth and openly declaring that their best claims to piety are founded on a total abandonment of the faith of their fathers - there is no region, however remote, no place, however securely guarded, no corner of Christendom, into which this pestilence has not sought secretly to insinuate itself. For those who intended to corrupt the minds of the faithful, knowing that they could not hold immediate personal intercourse with all, and thus pour into their ears their poisoned doctrines, adopted another plan which enabled them to disseminate error and impiety more easily and extensively. Besides those voluminous works by which they sought the subversion of the Catholic faith - to guard against which (volumes) required perhaps little labour or circumspection, since their contents were clearly heretical - they also composed innumerable smaller books, which, veiling their errors under the semblance of piety, deceived with incredible facility the unsuspecting minds of simple folk."___Council of Trent Catechism. (page 9)

[@davidbarreto8645]

What is the difference between latin mass and the one that uses the vernacular of each country? Is it solely the language used?

[@patriciabyrne5089]

In the Latin Mass the laity play no role except as silent observers. The priest has his back to the people. People kneel for Communion on the tongue, in the hands in not allowetyl Everything is in Latin

[@robertepperson5422]

My son said it so well, " I'm through being angry, it's not Our Lords Church, Let the dead burry their dead".

[@johnf6267]

You need to hear Fr. Ripperger on this topic.

[@gingerbaker757]

Hopefully he has not abandoned the true Magisterium, led by faithful clergy such as Archbishop Vigano, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Bishop Strickland and Fr.Altman etc. There is much to look forward to as a member of the faithful Remnant, the one referred to in Daniel chapter two. Catholic co-prophet-thirdeaglebooks/YT explains this prophecy, in these end times for the Remnant Faithful 🕯 🕊 🕯

[@KMF3]

Well in practice communion in the hand in the New order mass is the norm

[@martinmurry3]

The difference between a Catholic and a protestant is that a Catholic assents and obeys the Magisterium. A protestant does not.

[@lisaevers3052]

The Truth is Jesus Christ… period!

[@macabeo]

THE ABOLITION OF THE SACRIFICE DECLARED TO PERPETUITY, is It enough clear?

[@tomcha75]

Too many Catholics, including priests, bishops, and maybe even the Pope (God help us), seem too caught up with trying to be politically correct, rather than just being correct.

[@angeleszapiola4728]

I love traditional latin mass. I pray dayly for it`s retuning. I think Rome´s wish to stop is due to Rome`s loss of catholic faith.

[@desperado77760]

Robert are you a priest or religious?

[@colletteboland2984]

Robert, you watched, THE JOHN HENRY WESTON,CHANNEL, PLEASE DO, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, TAKE CARE GOD BLESS 🙏

[@tolkienlewis6887]

A fish rots from the head downwards.

[@topercaker2646]

The NO being pushed so hard is weird to me, why not authorize the liturgy of St.Gregory for common Catholic use then, that would make some sense. The sacred silence of the TLM also has PROFOUND health benefits in the Here and now.

[@KMF3]

How do you return to something that new? That does not make logical sense

[@elizabethwarren8117]

My question is Why is Francis so determined to stop everyone from using/attending the Latin mass. I remember learning the Requiem Mass in Latin and I Believe Pope Benedict XVI would have preferred that Mass for his funeral instead of the shabby funeral he received. I am praying for him and for Francis bergoglio, God does not want to lose ANY of his children to hell. I would liken to go to the Latin mass but have no idea of what churches are having those masses, I have heard that our churches are not allowed to advertise the Latin mass. Please pray for all Catholics. I don’t believe that our current pontiff is acting in catholics best interests and many people may end up in hell for doing the things that he says are allowable.

[@ro13243]

The apostles never knew anything about the Latin Mass. I just wonder when it began.

[@irenemccann7032]

I much preferred the Latin mass, it is far holier than today’s.

[@KMF3]

I don't understand this idea my truth your truth it's absolutely nonsensical

[@catherinek9327]

Visited Rome for the first time at Divine Mercy Sunday weekend, in 2022, and was shocked by the presence of lots of misfortunates sleeping rough under the arches of the Vatican... apparently not only is there moral corruption within the walls, but the impact is visible under the arches... why is it that that is seemingly ok? The need is not to hide it, but to correct it, surely?? 60 years after "Vatican II" it seems a sad reflection on the Catholic Church and Jesus' teaching...

[@catherinek9327]

@@mrbaker7443 no idea, as I don't live in Rome... what bothers me is the apparent absence of conscience, and that it is deemed to be ok, by its existence? Where does alms-giving even begin to figure in that? Also, given that the Vatican Bank is reported to be up there among the richest on the planet, with the highest gold reserves? To whom, then, does it actually belong??

[@MichElle-zc9tu]

Don’t blame Rome, blame the supplanter occupying Saint Peter’s Seat.

[@ritakirwan1385]

Robert Christ came to devide. Its in the Bible

[@KMF3]

Well actually you should be against things that are evil so don't say that you're not against anyting

[@speedygonzales9993]

If the 'Papacatastrophe' 'kills' the Diocesan/Carmelite Usus Antiquior I attend, in the 2023/2024 Synod, I will attend the SSPX masses or go underground.

[@RJ-bu6es]

You are asking a lot of questions you already know the answer to. Don’t straddle the fence. Be clear.

[@taxfree4]

Cardinal Spellman, who was also poisoned like Pope John Paul I, requested a Traditional Requiem Mass but was ignored and given the Nervous Ordo service.

[@Paulo_Sa_Pereira]

The Church lost the faith. Very disturbing, frustrating, upsetting. I believe it's for good but watching decadence ramping up all over the place and on the what was supposed to be the most sacred, the safe heaven, the Church, is beyond words. God have mercy

[@andrewangelopacheco9960]

Since no one sits on the Throne of Peter at this time, it is time for the SSPX to consecrate at least 100 Bishops. We must fight the war against the false religion of Modernism. Francis has to publicly accept that he was never canonically elected and he will never be the Pope.

[@DylanGames1000]

I do not have the ability to attend a TLM unfortunately. It’s not offered anywhere. The new mass is extremely revenant. But it’s not Latin. I’ve only been catholic for less than a year. I don’t think I’ll ever experience a TLM.

[@roshinobi]

I had to go to NO last Sunday for the first time since starting TLM at the beginning of the year, and it shocked me how empty it is, now that I have the TLM to compare it to. It felt like attending a lame concert for the choir with a few random prayer breaks here and there.

[@triumphofihm525]

There is TREMENDOUS support for reform & renewal in the US! Our priests support it as well & the Bishops know it.

[@rickleeo970]

the truth is anything you think is true. You have your own truth. You can deconstruct anything, with the exception that truth is individual

[@johncollins8304]

-- All truth is relative. -- Is that really true? -- Absolutely. You are an wonderful example of a modern enlightened person whose brain has turned to mush. God bless you today.

[@erikriza7165]

In A well done Mass, including novuis ordo, even if someone doesn't know what we are doing, they might get the idea that it is IMPORTANT. But in most novus ordo Masses i have been to in my life time, so many things, esp the music, is so silly and so trivial, why shoud anyone take it seriously or think it is important They have to face facts in rome. The 60s are over. The experiment failed. We need some new better more honest thinking. Banning the extraordinary form will hardly begin to solve the problems in the Church today.

[@lesevesel2898]

I am the Altar Service Ministry at my local NO Church. We have a pastor who is working towards going back to pre-1965 rites in his Church. And we love him for it that he wants us, his flock, to return to Jesus Christ with a full heart. But if he is pressured to recite the "new" Mass that Bergo the Child Butcher wants to replace in the GIRM, I'm quitting that Church and going underground to the TLM. I got no faith in that monster on St. Peter's Chair.

[@ransomcoates546]

The SSPX is not going anywhere. I strongly suspect the the FSSP and ICKS would join them in irregular status if pressed.

[@andrejgrebenc3235]

Robert following your line of reasoning, we shall celebrate the Euchrist in Aramaic or Hebrew around the table, reclining as Jesus did. Think about it. Is is better you convert from legalistic traditition.

[@2macca746]

Many of these trad KZbinrs would cringe if they saw the way the early church celebrated the Eucharist

[@alejandrocanela691]

Early church did communion on the tongue. Deal with it.

[@2macca746]

@@alejandrocanela691 no they didn’t . I prefer receiving on the tongue but the early church certainly didn’t

[@patriciabyrne5089]

@@alejandrocanela691 Are you saying at the Last Supper Jesus put the food into the Apostles mouths himself?

[@robertweidner2480]

We who love the The Mass are in a much better position than back in 1970. There’s also the fact that the ONLY growth in the Catholic Church is in the TLM communities. As JP2 said, we are a “Religion of Life” not death. Yell scream, rant and rave, point to your own local Novus Ordo parish that’s overflowing with young families, none of that matters, that kind of example is an outlier in the grand scheme of parishes closing and dioceses combining and reorganizing. Look at the numbers, and after the last Baby-Boomer who still has the Faith dies, the Church will be in huge trouble, and the only ones left standing will be the TLM attendees and their priests. No one is willing to die for “Gather Us In.” The TLM is like a single lone blade of grass in a large empty parking lot. Look at that blade of grass today, and you’d think it has no chance of surviving, this massive dead parking lot, flat asphalt as far as that blade can see will overwhelm it, and it will die. Look at it tomorrow, and that lone blade of grass will have grounded that asphalt to dust, and it will be replaced by a green field.

[@Pervirtutempax]

There is a falling off of attendance in all churches, Protestants included. It has nothing to do with the novus ordo. It has to do with the general apostasy. It is the secularization and worldliness in people's hearts.

[@andrejgrebenc3235]

I think you are wrong that the latin mass will disappear. Reverence is not linked only to the latin mass. The problem of trads is the spirit of Lefebvre, majority denying the VCIl. This is a bit lunatic. I appreciate l can receive the body and the BLOD of Jesus, extraordinary form does not allow.

[@thecatholicman]

Archbishop Lefebvre didn't deny Vatican II, his problems were limited to certain problematic areas such as crazy liturgy.

[@mikepoulin3020]

Vatican II is full of obfuscation and heresy...too bad most Catholics are too lazy to find it...

[@andrejgrebenc3235]

Yes he first signed VCII documents and then retracted.

[@buckan8r999]

No the problem was not V2, but the spirit of V2. V2, never called for a new mass. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow (Hebrews). Remember 2 Thess 2:14

[@Canisius19]

@@andrejgrebenc3235 Vatican 2 FAILED ... its time to put the entire catastrophe to side....