Pashtuns - Pakistan’s Biggest Faultline | Mr. Sushant Sareen with Mr. Tilak Devasher | Episode 78

Pashtuns - Pakistan’s Biggest Faultline | Mr. Sushant Sareen with Mr. Tilak Devasher | Episode 78
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[@dlypgogoi4453]

I thank you for inviting this great scholar on Pakistan to your forum. He very rarely appears in media or other intellectual forums. It's always great to listen him. Thanks once again for inviting this brilliant intellectual.

[@bhnuc]

He has given some interviews in last few months actually.

[@abracadabra42]

thanks to Sushant Sareen.. this is the worst interview of a Tilak Devashar. Go watch other interviews

[@warnpassion]

I think he is a former R&AW officer.

[@dlypgogoi4453]

@@warnpassion yes, he was a former R&W officer.

[@globaloffice2.054]

Thanks team chanakya dialogue. Most interesting session. Although Mr. Devashar could have explained onto the 4 points water, population, food in pakistan more briefly.

[@JaiAdiShankaracharya]

A great session indeed 👍 👏 Mesmerized by Tilak and Sushant ji...

[@chandanr7045]

Great to see Vikram Sood !!

[@arunagarwal3426]

What a scholarly depth in these conversations, Thank you Chanakya organizers!🙏

[@arunagarwal3426]

These videos will become reference records on some of the geo-political academic discourse.

[@HRHKamal]

Very interesting & thought provoking discussion. Thanks, Chanakya Dialogues. 👍

[@AMITKULHARI-px6qn]

Chanakya Forum is doing excellent job and such marvellous conversation. Always a fan of Sushant Sir.

[@petechau6314]

Pakistan Future: Controlled destruction is the best solution. Dangerous bldgs with weak foundation -is destroyed with control to save neighbors and people. If not this cancer will spread like aids 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼POK must be taken back to save from Pakistan’ Jehaniyat and Zahiliyat.

[@Nmax]

Pashtuns independence and reunification of their lands and the erasure of the Durand Line is our best bet for peace on the Indian subcontinent

[@Nmax]

@Tuai Usuf keep laughing Usuf. Pakistan is a fake entity created by Britain. All your generals will run away to Britain and the USA to their second properties leaving your confused people to be half Talibanized and the other half conquered by India. I give it up until 2035

[@IftikharBhittani]

Thank you

[@nicolasflamel3489]

Mr Tilak thinks Sufism is all about dancing in trance with AR Rahman music in the background. His ignorance on the subject is both despicable and scary. Mr Tilak, please educate yourself if you are reading this. Else for the sake of the nation, stay away from the security discourse.

[@yourikhi]

Exactly… AOURANGZEB was a sufie… his fatwas are still followed by subcontinent muslims

[@oliveeyes4281]

Thank you for hosting this talk. These are treasures for us. Jai Hind, sir 🇮🇳🙏🫡

[@PiyushKumar-ru6io]

Great conversation! Fountain of knowledge these two are.

[@anshulnaik4751]

Very interesting conversation.

[@ashwwal3409]

Excellent conversation .

[@tajnawab]

Two beautiful ❤️❤️ minds of beautiful Hindustan.Salaam Respect and namaste to hosts guests and viewers.

[@VijRaghavan]

Marvellous... great scholarly dialogues...

[@ashwinipethe4222]

This was amazing....

[@singhalmg]

Great discussions for someone who wants to understand Pakistan and its struggle to survive as a sovereign state

[@RaviNayyar]

Fantastic session. Learned a lot!

[@reyaroy4236]

Well done Chanakya dialogues. Jai Hind , Jai Bharat. 🇮🇳

[@akshay.kumar.k]

The word _Pashtun_ comes from Sanskrit _"Parsu"_ meaning "Warrior Tribe" via Parthian/Persian _"Parswana"._ _"Iran"_ means _Land of Aryans._

[@reyaroy4236]

True

[@beamer7702]

Parshu is a weapon, the axe used by lord parshuram

[@shabnumshaheen6253]

No we speak pushto thats why we are pushtuns

[@ahadkhankhattak9936]

The history of the Pashtuns is ancient and much of it has yet to be recorded in contemporary times. From the 2nd millennium BCE to the present, Pashtun regions have seen immense migrations including Aryan tribes, such as Persians, Sakas, or Scythians, as well as Kushans, Hephthalites, Greeks, Arabs, Turks, and Mongols..

[@supriyoghosh6533]

WoW….:Amazing….thoroughly enjoyed!!!

[@malmalhi007]

answer to the teaser at 41:13.. "Allah will provide"

[@tanukabanerjee1731]

Going through the book and it has a lot of stuff I had no idea of. Like i had no idea taliban movement is basically gilizai vs durrani

[@highhousefoodmart2011]

Never miss sushant Sareen

[@arpitpatel5814]

Great Respect for both panelists 🙏🏻🇮🇳🙏🏻

[@732anoop]

Very informative

[@sureshkumar-ht6me]

Quite interesting Sir.

[@mohammadayubkhan1921]

Sushant is incorrect about registering an FIR procedure in Pakistan. Anyone who want to register an FIR does not need to have any hard evidence. In the case of Imran Khan, the FIR was became controversial when Khan Sab wanted to include the name of a serving general from ISI.

[@mhdasfjml]

Intellectual stenographers befooling their own masses, afraid or envy of Imran

[@blackmamba9950]

Its the same in India. It doesn't mean the cops would cooperate, thats what he meant

[@rratedgabru5349]

Major saab you should be awarded a padma bhushan for organising this event. Devasher saab is asusual a sea of intellect and knowledge when it comes to Pakistan and Afghanistan and its politics. Sareen sometimes confuses me, I wonder if he is actually batting for India or Pakistan. He is keen on exposing their blunders and seeking solutions to fix it, why? Maybe it's the Punjabi in him? Not trying to be offensive. Anyhow, this is why we love AIM. He works the opposite way.

[@US008]

Sushant Sareen and Tilak Devasher are among the topmost Pakistan scholars based in India

[@petechau6314]

Why no one is talking 40 billion dollars?? Afghanistan has two demands 1. Return the land - illegally occupied . 2. Pay 40 billion collected from USA to destroy our beautiful country - so we can use for reconstruction!!!

[@sudhanshusharan5602]

I should add - analysing the Cracks in Punjabis & Pushtoons

[@sudhanshusharan5602]

Brilliant discussion. Two Punjabis (Hindus) analysing other Punjabis across the border 😃👍🏽🇮🇳

[@malmalhi007]

"Two Punjabis (Hindus)"...You don't understand Punjabis. Non Punjabis should stop analysing us from the lens of their caste culture..

[@AmitJha-ow2sr]

@@malmalhi007 Punjabis are Hindus only, we will stop analysing you once you will start analysing yourself

[@AmitJha-ow2sr]

@@malmalhi007 kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5yTo3hpgbShbpY To increase your knowledge here is the link

[@malmalhi007]

@@AmitJha-ow2sr These are an ethnic people..

[@arjunr5578]

@@malmalhi007 lol an average drug addict punjabi talking

[@MOHIT836]

Can't be a better host than sushant sareen

[@leonardopietersen460]

Tilak Devashar - They cannot think beyond their nose coz they are pygmys..🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@human5973]

i was about to buy devasher sir book...thank god i listened to this his talk is so superficial and shallow thanks i saved my time and money...S sareen is a good AFSANA NEGAR 😅

[@blackmamba9950]

Deveshar's book has excellent reviews, the top 4-5 comments are by Pashtuns themselves. Don't just throw terms such as "shallow". Be clear and explain the instance with counter example

[@sbhatt84]

Very very interesting talk

[@9AMITkrYADAV]

Arey wah major sahab itni badi event organise kar di.... Well done.. BRAVO👍

[@VijeDerm]

Chanakya dialogues is almost a strategic think tank and it needs to further strengthen itself and sure will have a great future.

[@somaghosh2960]

Sir, I got to know many small things about Pashtuns. So thank you.

[@manishkumarsingh6809]

Well done The Chankya Dialogue

[@krishnaats7141]

Awesome insights and fun too

[@Nmax]

Support must be given to Baluchistani and Pashtun nationalists and independence movements

[@karamjsrihal4631]

Agree with you 💯

[@sleepyjoe7518]

Balochis are not indigeneous, they are invaders, there was no Balochistan before 1877

[@seosea1569]

Jai Hind 🙏

[@kmrcful]

Nowhere else you will have birds eye view of Pakistan.🙏🙏🙏

[@user-commnsense614]

Pak is going to face huge water shortage and population explosion problems in the coming years. It will be better off letting Sindh and Balochistan become independent countries. A portion of the Pashthun areas (in the north west) should go to Afghanisthan and PoK should merge with Kashmir and go to India which will do a much better job of governing it. What will be left is Pakistani Punjab which is an area probably the size of Japan, and will be easier for Pak to manage given their utter failure to manage their country over 75 years. It will also ensure stability and possible prosperity within the new Pak as well as peace in the region.

[@mhdasfjml]

Bili ko chichron kay khawab

[@RiseAgainst786]

Young men, take note. This is how gentlemen speak (and throw and receive jabs). Emulate them.

[@Aliy.zai.dt5lc]

There are about 60 million,s population of Pashtun in Pakistan. 10 millions in Sindh about 10 millions in Punjab 10 millions in Balochistan 30 millions in Kpk

[@asadabbasmirza9519]

Who r you asking Is he a bigger international analysis then John Mearsheimer ???????

[@noone6952]

वंदे मातरम् , जय हिन्द।

[@tanishqkhanna4909]

Jai hind 🇮🇳

[@sunishabali6703]

Amazing

[@lakshmikanth6938]

India should help balouch people

[@arunagarwal3426]

These videos are great and very scholarly, can TCDE add some behind the scene, or light hearted videos too?

[@tada2508]

I didn’t know that Tilak Deveshar is so shallow in his thoughts. His is a typical mentality which led India to be compromised for the last 1,000 years.

[@orionsbelt927]

He didn't admit and said nothing Indians aren't already familiar with about Pashtuns, but he simply romanticises them

[@uzairkhan2101]

Sushant Sareen is badmouthing about Pashtoons so badly (bcoz he's a Punjabi) but Sir Tilak has knocked him out 😂.

[@Odyssey1408]

Ground realities are different ....

[@MohanKumar-pv4zu]

Sir, please arrange similar session on china also would like to see Maroof Raza

[@sundareshkrishna6457]

Would pak use the N weapon against the Pakhtuns …..in Afghanistan?

[@Kamranali67866]

On Kpk pashtuns

[@sundareshkrishna6457]

@@Kamranali67866 that’s sad

[@Kamranali67866]

@@sundareshkrishna6457 they killed 100s of pashtuns ..they hate kpk pashtuns..they make jokes on us

[@ajaypuri130]

Nice talk. At about 35 minutes I want to say one thing: I think if Pakistan refuses to or cannot pay bakc loans then will China not simply take over land and other assets of Pakistan like they have done with Sri Lanka??

[@rao8559]

25:20 I suppose this counts an item number if this was a movie

[@leonardopietersen460]

Sushant Sareen is absolutely brilliant in screwing Pox-tanis. Just love the way He talks in sarcastic manner.

[@aradhyatyagi123]

Jai Bharat

[@rmnair90]

Any dreams regarding a pipeline, is precisely that - a pipe dream! Time we stopped smoking that pipe.

[@RohitSinghKumar]

Major Saheb…. Ye conference to Kai din Phalke hai thee shayad…. But you choose to put this video out today….. I think you are timing what you put out and when…. 😂😂😂 RAAAA agent Major

[@asadabbasmirza9519]

On twitter he is opposite.

[@fazalkhan4788]

the pushtoons have a significant roll thru out history and will to continue so till the end of the world .. the imam mehdi and dajjal have also mentined in thier future battle of armegidon

[@vikaskumar7074]

THIS FORUM IS New ORF

[@amazingamx1255]

As a Pashtun from Pakistan occupied KPK, i would love nothing more than an opportunity to fight Pakistan to gain independence for my homeland.

[@KhanG-gd6cg]

Keep dreaming.

[@amazingamx1255]

@@KhanG-gd6cg You keep dreaming Daal Khor. Now Afghanistan is stabile. Now we have a country

[@KhanG-gd6cg]

@@amazingamx1255 HAHAHA Those who rely on our charity for 40 years are showing us Eyes. 😝

[@amazingamx1255]

@@KhanG-gd6cg Pakistanis cant even feed themselves. The US/China/IMF feed you. Without them you would starve to death. I dont know why you are talking

[@aviramvijh]

Yeh sab bhi Punjabi hain....we are not just a bunch of truck drivers and bhangra dancers.

[@karamjsrihal4631]

No no...those guys are all gone Kanadda 😂

[@sheenushandilya]

Any time for sushaant Sareen 👂

[@YoosufKk-e2s]

Pashthoon have relation with banu israil tribe they are from one tribe and one raice

[@adityakale0648]

Jai Hind

[@siddsy100]

Interesting. Could it be that the humiliation of the Pakistan Army by Imran Khan is actually in revenge for the humiliation of the Pashtuns by the predominantly Punjabi Army?

[@matikhorasani3842]

TTP is the Pashtun vengeance on the British created Pakistan state.

[@karamjsrihal4631]

Imran Khan is not Pashtun..he is Punjabi by blood

[@shabnumshaheen6253]

​@@karamjsrihal4631 hhhhh imran khan is pushtun and even his ancestor is from afghanistan not from pakistan pukhtunkhwa and he is from niazi tribe of pathans😅😅😅

[@shabnumshaheen6253]

​@@karamjsrihal4631 joke of the day he is niazi pathan but live in punjab

[@karamjsrihal4631]

@@shabnumshaheen6253 I am told by Pakistanis from that area that he is Punjabi from the other side of Nahar that divides that area.

[@ranapartap1501]

Hopefully Afghans will get Peshawar back it has been afghan Land for thousands of years

[@deeyarshree]

Mr Sareen is always a pleasure to hear

[@kanthavelkv]

@23:03 Pakistan being 'prime time property' and geographical advantage..... That's exactly what the Pashtuns and so many other powers are after. An advantage is also a curse, depends upon how you handle it and prevailing situation and many current factors from time to time.

[@1971PWF]

Pakistan is going to have a bang bang from North and South!

[@asadabbasmirza9519]

The two cover designs r stolen from Pakistani books. Why does Dawn(lost its credibility) Najam Sethi ( making people fools) There r a great No of urdu books in Pakistan.v v good on Pashtuns. Waiting for the book to hit the stands. This time he is marketing aggressively. Back cover reviews say every thing .

[@maverickmarvin]

Sushant Punjabi Sareen 🤣😆😂

[@asadabbasmirza9519]

Punjab A part of larger punjab so same origins . Lord why is he is on . Yes now he says about the trade .

[@alikhan-ri5ye]

No leader in Kabul, of any ideology, ever goes to UN, to raise issue of Durand Line.They know how many Pashtuns live in Pakistan. Those Kabul leaders dont want Pakistani Pashtuns to dominate them, and for capital to be shifted from Kabul to Peshawar and a leader from Peshawar. Only outstanding UN resolutions remain about Kashmir, for a plebesite .

[@falhenchachal9817]

Carry on dreaming of kashmir ! Your economy has already gone down. Good luck on your begging bowl. 🤣

[@alikhan-ri5ye]

@@falhenchachal9817 😄😄😄hey, we never needed chairty of wheat and rice to feed 90 % of our population.

[@alikhan-ri5ye]

@@zyT175 you sound so stupid. I am talking about kabul leaders for the last hundred years, who have never laid claim on KPK, and just use the topic to consolidate their power and to stoke hatred and mistrust in both countries across torkham.

[@alikhan-ri5ye]

@@zyT175 The leaders in kabul, used KPK as political tool, to consolidate power. ANP and PKMP in baluchistan leaders were never listened to,by leaders in kabul and this matter was raised at international court of justice. The brief period of not accepting Pakistan as a country at UN by govt in kabul(who then changed their minds quickly), doesnt mean a ruler in kabul ever raised the matter at UN,or took this claim that durand line agreement was not perpetual but only for hundred years,it has never been taken to international court of justice to date.Only a govt in kabul and its accepted leader can raise a case in international court of justice.

[@alikhan-ri5ye]

@@zyT175 I am not making political speeches. I am asking if any afghan govt has raised it in international court of justice. Karzai and many before only use it political slogans. Majority of Pashtoons live in Pakistan, upto 3 times more. Inevitably the future Pashtoon leader in united lands will come from Pakistani Pashtoons, and this fear stops any kabul govt from taking any concrete steps. Raising it in press conferences and political speeches dont matter,shows how serious successive kabul govts have been.

[@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz]

Sushant sareen doesn't want to left behind..... So he keeps bringing unnecessary shallow coments which doesn't add anything critically..... Tilak deveshar kept talking about pashtoon traditions and history but he couldn't connect Islamic taliban ideology with pashtoon's irrespective of their ancient glorious history..... Gaurav arya need Christine fair like guests for explaining the Pakistan afganistan issues...

[@abdoolgafoor249]

Why don’t we talk about Dalits?

[@jackmist5096]

So after widely known fact.... Why is India still not exploiting these faultlines in Pakistan, ACTIVELY & SINCERELY. India has so many cards to play and balkanise Pakistan. Mark my words, the only way to keep south Asia safe and secure, the only solution to all the problems is removal of Pakistan from map. Balochistan can become India vassal state, give KP to Afghanistan and sign a permanent peace treaty in India's favour, and merge Sindh and Punjab to India. Jai hind 🇮🇳🚩❤🙏

[@jackmist5096]

@@zyT175 bas yhi dikkat he.... boln jyada he, samajna bilkul nai he.... anpadh gawar he sab ke sab pakistan me.... 12th tk ki padhai naseeb nai he....

[@orionsbelt927]

@@zyT175 you're from Punjab right ?

[@shabnumshaheen6253]

​@@jackmist5096 half of balochistan population is pushtun while baloch is in minority

[@zgged]

It pains us that the ancient land of gandhara was lost forever to Afghanistan and now we are going to lose another ancient land of taxila to Afghanistan again due to the failure of Pakistan and treachery of nehru Gandhi congress during partition of 1947 when the congress was itself in power in North west frontier province in 1946. The soul of frontier Gandhi khan gaffer khan will never forgive congress for throwing them into the pack of wolves called Pakistan

[@rohan12395]

Sushant sareen interrupts way too much

[@newdaynewway7850]

It is a jelly state- neither solidifies nor detoriate

[@aryavarta9744]

do pashtun wants to join india

[@Kamranali67866]

No we want pashtunistan

[@saudrehman8768]

Punjabi scholars talking of pushtoons merits In hate of their blood brothers very strange

[@kamranafridi4743]

There will be the Return of the King of Delhi, Pathan/Pashtun/Pakhtun, IA, You know why, because that's what happens in a great tale

[@believeroflight9888]

History is not a great tale.

[@Rajputchohan11]

As knowing Punjabi and pashtune this analyst is talking nonsense

[@nishalall3510]

E̊x̊c̊i̊t̊i̊n̊g̊ ån̊d̊ t̊h̊r̊i̊l̊l̊i̊n̊g̊ t̊o̊ g̊åv̊e̊ ån̊ I̊n̊d̊i̊ån̊ J̊åm̊e̊s̊ B̊o̊n̊d̊ i̊n̊ r̊e̊ål̊ l̊i̊f̊e̊!̊!̊

[@asadabbasmirza9519]

Wide popularity. Yes ,he writes without commenting But in such interviews he is nonsense.

[@vasantdamle6389]

When you are discussing pashtun fault line it must be with some objective from India's point of view or else Pashtun as fault line should not have any relevance for us.Seen in correct perspective....untill Afghan jihad in Zia's era durand line and pashtun brotherhood for both ...pak and afghagastan ..was non issue..It is after Russian withdrawal that the fault line crack became apparently discernable manly because Pak intended for hegemony like making afghan as 5th state of pakistan.It is here discussion should have focussed as to how far this fault line has further windened or recouped.Further.. as to what challenges for India are presented by this fault line particulary in view of foot prints of china in pak...should have been in the ficus of discussion..All said and done...a poor discussion and presentation of topic.Whether this fault line is bane or boon for India could have been eloborated and the deliberation should have coverd strategy and tactice to work out this fault line of Pakistan to the advantage of India !!!

[@gbhatia9809]

Yes indeed, it was a wayward discussion more flaunting Punjabism. Roots of Pakistani crisis is its structural abnormality. Pakistan is an abnormal entity with its 62pc Punjabi population having only 24pc Punjabi land. Punjabi establishment knows that Punjab can not survive without massive consumption of resources of other provinces. Kashmir, India-hatred & Islam were invented as important weapons by wily Punjabi army & Punjabi bureaucracy to fool and enchain other provinces & to devour their resources (From PLAYING WITH FIRE BY PAMELA CONSTABLE , Random House, NY 2011). Overtures of peace with India are periodically done to tide over some internal crisis or to achieve some strategic aims & enmity is back in place as necessity for Punjabi dominance.. According to Stephen Cohen (2003), Pakistan military directly or indirectly devours 54.7% of Pakistani national resources, runs vast commercial empire from bakery to banks & gives prime land as retirement benefit to military officers many of whom are inducted post-retirement into plum civilian posts, 20pc of which are usurped by the military. Pakistani economy & demands of its Frankensteinian monstrous military have become mutually incompatible. The monster can be tamed only when 3 non-Punjab provinces unite to free themselves from the clutches of Punjab & release their people like Bangladesh from huge military budget & prevent devouring of their resources which is crippling their lives. A controlled collapse of Pakistan like the USSR is in the best interests of world peace.

[@vasantdamle6389]

@@gbhatia9809 This truely is the fault line.You have given better perspective than me.

[@unibks4382]

Afghanistan quite correctly voted against the creation of Pakistan. It is incorrect to say the Durand Line only became an issue after USSR withdrawal.

[@altheabrown2044]

rare earths, central asia

[@devatanarsaiah2886]

Pakistan has number one army chief's!

[@ashwwal3409]

All Pathans in Pakistan's call themselves as Afghans .

[@qalat23]

That they cannot change. In fact they're Afghans in DNA, but unfortunately majority called themselves Pakistani.

[@shabnumshaheen6253]

​@@qalat23 No i am pakistan pathan but i know my caste is afghan and i proud of that

[@qalat23]

@shabnumshaheen6253 Afghan is not the name of the cast. It is identity and tribe.75 years ago, there was no Pakistan pathan. British has provided a new name as Pakistan , but it does not mean it changed everything with that.

[@papabear4066]

I resent corrupt Pakistani military generals and may not be #1 but they surely among the top when you realize that they defeated mighty super power of USSR, though with help of USA money but it’s Pakistani military fighting on the grounds with Afghans and then india which is multiple times bigger power than us, but we still were able to drive them nuts and were able to defend our lands from them. Pakistan has never lost a war in west Pakistan. East Pakistan was a different ball game due to logistics. Rest of all the wars are equally claimed by Pakistan and india to be won equally

[@papabear4066]

@@bachakhan9817 Your inherited “decency” is quiet evident in the tone and language of your comment. I wouldn’t fall to your level, because thankfully I don’t share your ancestries. No country or army is without faults or baggages. Pakistan has its own. Minorities suffocating and corruption lead by military generals is disgusting and we realize that. India isn’t much better either with their politicians replacing the role of our military for their public. Equivalent of our Jihadis are their RSS hindutva. For us, Times are changing. Pakistan is changing. This is the first time in history when military corruption has been exposed to public. We woke up from a bad dream. Big changes are coming but Only time will tell.

[@mac.505]

Ya keep believing that good for you

[@shahmirahmad8425]

@@mac.505I mean PAF has a much better record comapred to IAF and on the loc we have given u a reply everytime. I live in neelum I’ve personally seen desd Indian bodies on the loc …

[@govindindurkar3100]

You have lost three wars in west pak. You can lie to yourself. Ask your own experts.

[@MsRobby1]

Fairytailes Pak people are brainwashed believing they are arabs or wannebe's arabs or other times wannebe turks