5 things I hate about my supercub | HONDA | SUPERCUB | C125

These are the 5 things that annoy me most about the supercub .. you may agree you may not , comments below ..
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[@ripmax333]

I fully agree regarding the keyless feature, absolutely un necessary on the Cub. Thank god they didn’t put on the new CT125. Other things that I would have added to your list is the lack of a kick start and at least an option for spoked wheels.

[@Watnuweer]

Yes to a kick start, but those wheeld are nice, I surtenly don't like having wire wheels. I hate them.

[@coryc2332]

Is there a way I can Hotwire mine I broke the key fob on it and the ring around that mission to put a regular ignition on it is there a way that I can still start it without FOB Key

[@HyperVanilo]

Keyless in general is useless, whether on bike or car, what's wrong with old school key?

[@onlimi616]

Is the keyless thing a security feature? I would imagine you have to be really careful about theft in the city. Thieves are nuts about E-bikes, so I would imagine they like these as well.

[@HBNplague]

@@HyperVanilo I hear you on the bike. But if you look up "Kia Boyz," you will see how a poorly designed keyed ignition can be a liability for car theft, whereas a keyless ignition is more resistant to theft.

[@michaeljohnson-li5nn]

The blue theme on the bike is a nod back to the Honda C100 and C102 of the sixties. In fact Honda have been very clever when designing this bike in picking up on the original styling as used on the early cubs. The red single seat is another carry over. Personally I think it’s a great looking little bike.

[@dickdastardly5534]

I agree hate is a very strong word and if I hated something truly I would not buy it. I like the look of the new super cub and there are plenty of other bikes out there to choose from that do not have the modern refinements this model has.

[@whoaitstiger]

Ah, I was wondering what happened to _all_ _the_ _stickers_ _in_ _the_ _world._ Mystery solved. 😂

[@Mrfish2015]

More to come the travels I do

[@waynedl99]

I agree about the keys, what's wrong with keys ffs. Keyless on bikes? I can 'kinda' understand it on a car with a 'handsfree' boot opening or whatever, but on a bike?

[@keithsbitsandpieces]

Mr Fish , The cub paint scheme is a Japanese thing.. lol Represents the Sky and the Sea .. Seriously yes 😉

[@Mrfish2015]

Light blue ?

[@keithsbitsandpieces]

Sky is dark blue and the sea light blue ;)

[@jimmunro4649]

And Red because MR Honda love Red

[@vqey2]

Colour is to echo c100 cub gear leaver toe heal is the way it’s always been

[@vvvxt]

@@keithsbitsandpieces other way around

[@michiobosozoku489]

I drove a c90 when I was 16-17.... loved the 4 stroke sound, the looks and the comfy ride. There was a c50-c70-c90 and most components were compatible between those bikes. The c50 had a sleek but stylisch seat with white sides and a red Honda logo on the rear. The c90 seat was much wider and nice for long rides. The bike was about 30 years old then and that was about 30 years ago, the bike's problably still riding somewhere, amazing. It's good to see the front dives instead of coming up when using front brake. I had gearbox changed for a 4 gear, I see it's stock now. Top speed seems a bit low, the C90 handled 60mph without trouble....

[@Mrfish2015]

Nice one 🙌

[@roylappin4491]

Agree on the seat, I liked the long seat on my 1983 allows you to slide back.

[@roylappin4491]

Fair comments. It takes awhile to get used to, it also helps if its your only bike.

[@ronboe6325]

Seats: I think the Goldwing has the only factory seat I got on with straight away. Color: That white will change color depending upon the background color (well, all colors do that). You need a Faraday Cage for your fob. I.e. a metal box that surrounds it to prevent RF from leaking out. Like a little mint box. Test to be sure it works well enough. She is really too cute to hate....Oh, that screw will also take a regular screw driver, and possibly an American Dime. Try a coin (Like we carry change around anymore!). But a P-38 would work too. I'll let you google it (use P-38 opener).

[@Mrfish2015]

Had to find something , to balance the love 😂

[@johngray2138]

Very useful criticisms for those of us thinking of getting a Supercub - love the Topbox though !

[@roylappin4491]

John Gray get one they are brilliant!

[@Mrfish2015]

They are fantastic

[@matsgustavsson665]

@@Mrfish2015 What brand, type and volume is your topbox? Just bought a used 2019 super cub and that does look like an aquisition I'd like to do.. About the keyless feature, Can a thief hotwire it or is it just for convenience? Honda stopped bringing ANF Innovas to europe in 2012 and when mine got stolen I thought I'd get something newer than a 10 year old model. Do Honda bring Innovas to the US? I hear they still make and sell them in south east asia but doesn't they bring it west, why? Anyway, super cub it is :)

[@peterhill8374]

Love my supercub apart from keyless system. Your spot on with your criticism.

[@Aka.Aka.]

It's more resistant to theft though

[@wozza59]

You can purchase an aftermarket full length duel seat from Thailand which looks good.

[@michaeljkasnter]

Throttle position is crucial when shifting the SuperCub, rev matching has to be perfect for ultimate smoothness

[@no_special_person]

Yeperino

[@kathywilson8637]

Do you left off a bit before gearing up or down?

[@sergentcolon1]

The key fob issue close to the bike when camping is easily solved by putting it in one of the mesh faraday cases available. Some of us always carry a Swiss Army knife and so have a Phillips screwdriver at hand at all times. Also a small lithium jump starter could be carried in your top box if you suffer from a flat battery. Oh and by the way lots of bikes have either a 12v power socket or usb socket on them.

[@OrmondOtvos]

My bleedin' ebike has a usb charge port!

[@JK-ck5gg]

My Cub 90 has a bench seat that just lifts on a leaver, a white fairing, a key and kick start. It’s got the same gears tho and definitely no USB. That’s progress for you. I still think your super cub’s a lovely little bike.

[@vtman8692]

“I’m an old fashioned so I don’t want keyless start” But “I demand USB port for all bikes…” 🙄🙄🙄

[@phrodendekia]

I also dont like keyless start and demand usb on all bikes. But not because I'm old fashioned, it's because keyless start is stupid and usbs are necesary

[@pajamas720]

Keyless start makes the bike less secure, not to mention adding a critical weak point to the bike by making it much more tedious to start should the key fob die out. Usb on the other hand should be obvious how its beneficial.

[@thetreblerebel]

I just got a 2021. I'm new to riding any motorcycle. I've got the Red White paint. So far 4 days in I'm loving hoping on it and putting about.

[@MJP3055]

5) Seat is fine, you need a larger bike 4) Paint is a subjective preference 3) Agree on charger. My Triumph T120 has a USB port 2) Forget about a slipper, it's a Cub 1) tree on the key; the less electronics the better.

[@JR-ws8zy]

Agreed, the seat is a pain and Corbin wants too much for a replacement so you're stuck with it. Another problem I found is that if you leave the alarm on for an extended amount of time ( nearing a month) the battery dies and you are locked out. One thing I've noticed about the cub is that the foot shifter controls the clutch. You are working the clutch with your foot. If you push the shifter down forward or backwards it disengages the clutch. When you let off of the shifter that is when the clutch reengages regardless of RPMs. So you can "pop" the clutch and do a wheelie by shifting to first, revving the engine, and then letting off the shifter or you can easy into a gear by letting up slowly off the shifter after pushing down on it.

[@Jim52154]

Question - what happens if you start the bike and go away with ur key? does it turn off?

[@rafaelmeneses5066]

Spot on the electrical complaint. I decided to make a jump point on the battery cover. Charging or jumping the battery is now easy.

[@grumblehump2820]

I agree about the white/pale blue colour. It the same hue as a white shirt that's gone through the wash with a pair of blue jeans!

[@bobjuniel8683]

I agree. The electronic ignition is complicated and can strand a rider. My girlfriend refuses to ride my Honda Click 150cc because the electronic Key confuses her. I have had a flat battery and I was totally stranded. All bikes should have a kick start for a flat battery. When I looked at your model super cub the seat position caused me to say no, I will not buy one. I bought a Honda Wave 125cc instead. I believe the bike designers don’t actually ride them, or they are all 4 feet tall. I am only 5 foot 6 inches tall. In 1983 I bought a new Honda cub with a bench seat. The ergonomics of that bike were excellent. It had weaknesses, Drum Brakes, inadequate lights, and that hard suspension. You see Japan has excellent smooth roads. The ridges on the Honda Wave and Honda Click seats push into my coccyx bone and give me back ache. The designers produce what looks comfortable on paper, but the seats are a real pain in the butt. These bikes are so close to the perfect solution for commuter transport, I have bought 9 of them in my long life. Started riding motorbikes 60 years ago. I find 125cc is plenty of power for me. The speed limit is 90kph or 56mph and I prefer to ride slower like the locals in Thailand, more comfort and safer.

[@jerryjones2818]

Um, if "flat" battery means "Dead" battery then bike won't start with a kicker unless it has a magneto ignition--if it relies on a coil, you still need battery.

[@bobjuniel8683]

@@jerryjones2818 I"m 78 years old. Yes bikes in the 1950s when I was young would have had magnetos. My batteries go "flat" that's Australian for "dead," on my modern bikes because sometimes I may not ride for 2 weeks. I always buy new bikes and often have trouble within 3 months. I am living in country Thailand and cannot buy a trickle charger, even though I am sure they are available. Cannot buy a tubeless tyre puncture repair kit either. Thanks for the information. It explains why kick starts and crank handles became obsolete. That and the pain of it all. New Honda Wave 125cc with Disc Brakes is equal to USD $1,600. That is cheap transport. A Honda PCX-160 or ADV-150 will set you back around USD $2.700. On the road no more to pay. How sweet it is!

[@xtc2v]

Item No: 6. That bodywork is held tightly on by hidden plastic clips. These are impossible to see so trial and error to gain access results in breakages. Honda should be honest and allow a design with visible socket screws as on the original bike

[@user-bw5le3xk9f]

Hello. Great video, I really enjoyed it. I have the 1981 version and it solves many of your complaints. It has a key. It has a long seat for 2 people, or one tall guy. The gearbox is worn in enough that it doesn't kick back, or make the chain slap when you shift at higher revs. It has the white fairing. But no charging point. I am fine with that. It means you need to stop off at the coffee shop or the bar to take a break and charge your phone there, while also charging yourself. Cheers!

[@Mrfish2015]

The old ones are great

[@Moleanimationchannel]

Can you link the storage box good sir?

[@a.a.6132]

I wish this bike has a kickstarter as a backup system in the case the battery is weak. Also, a regular key without all the so called high tech electronics. Simplicity = reliabilty. In the 2022 model, Honda added a passenger seat and made the color dark. A good improvement but the classic two colors scheme should be an option. It is important to design the bikes to work not just for the fun of it. I used my Kawasaki Ninja 250 to transport small packages to the post office using a backpack. I wish it had side bags.

[@andiman45]

Its a honda. Always starts

[@gzk6nk]

I have an Innova (same gearbox I think) and of course there is a clutch, which disengages when you press the pedal (up or down) and re-engages as you release it. So if you release it with finesse, realising you are re-engaging the clutch, you avoid wheel lock, chain slap, engine jumping up and hitting you in the gonads etc. I'm sure you know this, but maybe some of your viewers don't. I love it, even if I get momentarily wrong 'muscle memory' in my gear-change foot when jumping off my Innova and onto my Speedmaster.

[@splodge5714]

My Honda 300 Forza has a charging point in the front box amongst many other great features.

[@stevejohnson1797]

Honda forza is on a whole new level!!!

[@bucktooth002]

Great for listening to music JBL bluetooth speaker fits on the right side. Mine just got stolen on Christmas eve.

[@ashleyp3161]

Could be bollux but I read somewhere that the gear lever was designed like that so Japanese businessmen wouldn’t mark their shiny shoes when changing gear. One of the design requirements was that you could ride it one handed while carrying a tray of soba noodles. I like it, but I don’t like keyless ignition. it’s too expensive and it needs a bench seat.

[@Mrfish2015]

Sounds about right , I knew about the noodles thing , so the foot thing makes sense too

[@blighty_biker]

I might be in the minority because I actually like keyless ignition (although I agree it does look wrong on the Supercub). My Honda Forza has it and if you press and hold the middle button (the picture of the key) you can turn the key off and on- the led on the fob will turn green or red accordingly. You could then deactivate a key and hide it on the bike?- assuming you can find a space for it! It’s a feature I wish they’d put on the BMW keyless fob.

[@ryanwatson911]

i love the keyless ignition on mine. Would make my 5 things i love list but each to their own hey?

[@jonathansimmonds5784]

Finally you get to the 5 points. Can I suggest you go and learn how to ride a Cub, in particular how to use the gear shift, before thinking you are qualified to criticize one.

[@scoobylol1987]

The colour scheme was chosen to match the early C100 SuperCub. The story goes that the dark blue represents the Sea of Japan, and the light blue the sky of Japan. The red seat was an accident. Apparently they couldn’t decide on a seat colour for the first SuperCub until Soichiro Honda was crouched next to the machine wearing his red hat. They had a eureka moment and went with it!

[@jorgesoberomackenzie9548]

The issue with the key and a death battery is critical, very good point.

[@izaacwhitfield4459]

Beautiful bike mate! Got myself a 2002 super cub. Love the topbox, where did you get it?

[@Mrfish2015]

I’ve had that box since 2015 on my adv bikes , so I thought I’d make it fit

[@DragosDreamer1989]

"Slowest getaway in history"... LOLOLOL

[@adiohead]

🤣

[@alsner73]

I cannot stand keyless ignition on bikes very, I went to test ride a Forza 300 and the Honda dealer couldn't get the damn ignition to work, 1 Sat morning wasted went back a few days later and test rode it and it wasn't for me but it did help convince me that too much technology on a bike is potentially bad news. I don't want rider modes etc, traction control, supension settings yadda yadda yadda. I'm not saying its all bad it's just not for me, I guess I like basic..

[@Mrfish2015]

It has its place .. but not here 😂

[@stevejohnson1797]

Had a c90 in the early 90's big topbox huge screen. Brilliant bike! The old bench seat was so comfortable..

[@keithsbitsandpieces]

Me again The gearbox was always designed to be heal toe and 1st gear was only ever needed on very steep hills Hence the reason it was back there But because they have changed the gearing its not possible now by the sounds of it... As you press the gear lever it operates the clutch as if with a clutch lever so holding the pedal down and reving it before releasing the gear lever they do stonking wheelies Allegedly 😉

[@Mrfish2015]

😂

[@jettschenker]

I agree with you 100% on several points. I also prefer a normal key without all the electronic wisbank. Fanciness. I also don't understand that baby powder blue that they've got mixed in with the other blue. The first time I saw it. I thought my stomach was going to get sick.

[@intergalacticoverdri]

i need to know what and where to get that luggage container ; i need to find that one or a bigger improved one to hold one or two welding gas cylinders (double oxy or double propane; or just big items) prefers made of metal

[@Mrfish2015]

The rack is Honda with a givi plate and the box is a givi trekker outback , you can get a bigger one that’s 58 litres

[@thejubieexperience]

I'm torn about it. I both like and hate the keyless. I think the Super Cub would turn off if the bike gets out of range of the fob. I think it's so you can warm it up without worrying about it walking off on you. With my CT125, I'm always worried about it when it's warming up at home, but its way more sought after than the C125. You can test it out by leaving the fob in your house and see if you could take off on it. I got my C125 tore apart right now, otherwise I'd try it out. And the keyless start runs the battery down real fast. My biggest complaint is the step through design. They stuffed the battery under the seat, taking up a little more space in the stepthrough area. I have a box on mine too and the only options are to either fully bend my leg while I throw it over the seat (my current method) or step through. The few inches make a big difference. In the old ones, I could step through easily without scuffing up the legshield. I'm thinking of getting something to protect it, maybe one of those luggage racks or a tank protector for a traditional bike

[@DavidHaile_profile]

I''ve owned my cub at least 2 years. I've developed a new hatred for the keyless fob system! I only have one key so I ordered another one from the dealer as a backup. It arrived and I read the instructions at the dealer before buying the key. I'm almost certain that if I go through all the trouble to program the Cub for a new key, it disables the old key. I'll guess that new Cubs with two keys both have the same ID. This is never ever the case if you buy a replacement. I think I won't have a backup key. If I lose it, I'll go buy one at the dealer. It took several months from order to delivery. Now they'll just have it on the shelf in case I need it.

[@j.n.-fr5uh]

the keyless craze is the only reason im aiming for the old models instead of the new. absolutely baffling never got it

[@ensidfkgnur]

If you're able to find a place on the bike to hide the spare FOB where it would be protected from the elements and undamaged from exposure you could put a pull-tab of plastic between the battery and contact. You may have seen this implemented on retail products that come with batteries. The hardest part of this project would be to find the magic hiding spot. You could put it in a water-tight bag. Regarding the dead battery issue: Mine came with a battery tender connector with 15A inline fuse, you can buy or build cables with clamps for jumping or charging the battery. Check the polarity if coming out of the bike to connect to another battery. Also that 15A might not be enough if you try to start it while connected. An auxiliary SAE plug would be a nice addition. Working my way through your Super Cub videos, thanks for posting!

[@robertpinto6515]

I wod also add that the key fob has a button battery. When it dies, you're done! So, do you carry a spare battery, or hope the battery doesn't die? Progress?

[@cubgsan]

Good morning ! I am Cross Cub grandpa from Japan. Super Cub is so versatile motorcycle ! I enjoy camping and touring with HONDA Cross Cub ! The video is very nice !! Have a nice day !

[@cubgsan]

@@paulw.a5852 さん、私は　埼玉県に住んでいます。どうぞよろしくお願いします！

[@florme6494]

My top 3 and what has prevented me from purchasing is 1 Petrol tank size. 2 is the top speed, can’t go motorway speeds. 3 no convenient storage under the seat like other scooters.

[@Mrfish2015]

Don’t let the fans hear you call it a scooter

[@elisemueller9967]

Not a scooter

[@jimmunro4649]

Seen Vid one USA sitting on 60 MPH OK tank is ok over 120 Miles

[@rafaelmeneses5066]

I roll 55-60mph everyday on mine.

[@elisemueller9967]

@@rafaelmeneses5066 how many do you think US got? Assuming you are in US (roll, lol)

[@dundeemink3847]

How does your oil pump work ? on the ANF125 the oil pump is on the wrong side of the centrifugal clutch so if you are ticking over and the basket clutch is not turning - no oil flow.

[@Wil-70-NL]

I agree on all points. How dumm this electronic key works. Engineering with a tunnel vision. The light blue/white colour: if they would paint it in the same colour as the bike. Gives it more body. Or let the client make his complete own choise when he wants a brand new one. I would choose classical Honda colors from the '80s including stickers. Gearbox, o.m.g. I don't see anything in that style. Normal clutch and box please. Up and down shifting in the normal way. Seat: correct. I still have got my '85 Honda MT8. That seat style would be perfect for the super Cub. Great review! Thanks.

[@Tommy-Atkins]

The colour is “Sea foam blue”...my old man had a Ford Anglia in the early 70’s which was the same colour! 👍😎

[@Mrfish2015]

70s not fashions best period

[@korky7775]

@@Mrfish2015 YES IT WAS

[@mrshhh7841]

I feel ya on the seat and definitely the anomalies with the electronics. My 2020 Nebula red grew on me real fast since I had no other choices with the color way. As far as initial throttle response in relation to 2 nd gear and up has been extremely satisfactory though . As for someone being able to steal it while being in the vicinity with the fob , we’ll that’s one I haven’t thought about until now . Ride safe

[@chuckbowen5024]

Honda has always led the pack because of their SIMPLICITY!! Why would you fix something that's not broken. You won't see these bikes around in 50 years like you see 50 year old bikes now because apparently built in obsolescence has made it's way to Honda.

[@geraldarcuri9307]

With the exception of the shift lever ( which is really odd, and non-standard and a pain ), these other items are sort of niggling. Nice and fun review!

[@slam854]

Mr Fishiness, a USB port can be added wherever you find a convenient location. I would choose the toolbox location as it is close to the battery. Fuse the hot lead. I thoroughly enjoy this MC. Keyless ignition is an issue. It is always consuming battery charge. My charger will cycle the battery over a given time period keeping sulfation to minimum, even AGM's.

[@MrUX-cb4wn]

I have to say my biggest problem with it is power. I'm not expecting it to be fast, but it does have a very difficult time going up hill. Mine is still still in its break-in period. I was wondering after your first service did your top speed improve? Mine won't go above 40MPH currently.

[@michaeljkasnter]

Holy cow, mine does 62-mph on a flat road, either your 600lbs or something is definitely wrong

[@Mrfish2015]

Sit at 50/55 no probs , fastest 69 downhill wind behind me 😂

[@MrUX-cb4wn]

@@michaeljkasnter Thanks for your reply! I'm 159 lbs :-) Did yours go 62MPH when the bike had 0 miles on it or after its first service? I'm brining mine in for its first service today. Let's see what happens after.

[@ryanwatson911]

I think you are changing gear too early. If you stay low in the rev band the torque in fourth gear doesn't go beyond say 40 mph. You can go 50mph in 3rd gear.

[@MrUX-cb4wn]

K, just picked it up from its first service and now yes it can go up to 54MPH on a flat road :-) Also, I wait a bit longer before shifting to another gear. I had the same experience when I first got my R1200c years ago. It wouldn't go beyond 60MPH until after it's first service. I think they do this to help make sure the engine is not damaged during the break-in period.

[@urbanfireblade]

Surely even with a very flat battery there'll be enough charge to open the seat to get the screwdriver out?? Or just use a 2p coin in the screw...

[@marchampson006]

Ive got a supercub its a year old now and got 700 miles on the clock must admit the Battery failed on me after 3 months old but could just about push start it within 5 feet. Dreading after a longer while a totally dead battery or the key fob battery going. Not keen on the lights on all the time that dont help. On the whole i find it ok but its mainly for local shopping trips etc as ive got a Suzuki GN250(Hundred Thousand mile plus) as back up but that 25 years old now. Marc in Bletchley Towers

[@silversurfertim2123]

Number one could be a problem, but the rest are small things it a cool bike. 👍🏻🏍

[@naxxramaz]

dude, have you tried looking behind the nickel shield shaped bit next to the ignition switch?

[@Mrfish2015]

Yes

[@royblackburn1163]

You can wrap the fob in foil it's like a faraday cage, KitKat foil is the right size simply eat more KItKats one a day keeps the robbers away, essential camping treat, hope this helps.

[@fastestmilkman3840]

Just bought one of this for going to work, can i fit any other top box??

[@bikemaddan9311]

Thinking of getting the 2022 version, they’re stating 188mpg, how much to fill the tank?

[@wesleycardinal8869]

Probably a bit late, but did you know that you can deactivate the fob by holding the round button down until the red indicator on the fob flashes. You can then hide it on the bike if you can find a secure spot, or leave it in your tent next to the bike. Re the other complaints as many have said, the two tone blue is from the original cub and represents the colour of the sky and sea, the gearshift takes some getting used to and if you're looking for a quick getaway, the cub isn't the bike for you. Thanks for the review, your little big adventure with teapot1 was partly responsible;e for me buying a cub last year 👍🇦🇺

[@Dumptruck70]

How often does your battery die? Thanks for sharing!

[@steve1962]

Just a bit smarter than my 1972 brown Honda C90.......with top box.........I once took it off road in the woods at Deepcut......tried to keep up with my mate on his Yamaha DT 175.......you can guess how that went........lost the bloody top box on a steep incline too..........mind you, the bloody bike was unbreakable......apart from the back light...... the racy days of my yoof......lol

[@johntheaccountant5594]

Spot on; the seat and shape of the seat restricts your ability to move position, while a bench seat (Honda Wave or older 110cc Dream in Thailand) gives you that choice and you can take a pillion. You can get a gear changer leaver (Honda part number) that has the normal gear changer where you can change down with your toe as well as the back section to change with your heel for about £6. Ask your friendly Honda dealer. It just slides on the same shaft. That keyless is the reason that I would not buy one. You would have thought that on a retro bike the old original key would be a feature. I have a Honda Monkey and on that I would prefer no remote key fob and just a standard key. Less electronic gizmos, less problems. Mr Fish, you know you should have bought that Honda Monkey that you raved about with a Kim Kadashian ass seat.

[@Mrfish2015]

Still bought the right bike wouldn’t swap it for a monkey

[@markianclark9645]

Bench type seat is a necessity on any 'step thru' I ride the slightly older version of the Wave 110i...the ANF125 Innova Fi...perfect for me...except maybe too many plastic panels to crack...I've had 4 Innovas since 2007...they're cheap here second hand since no-one buys them..all (almost all 99.9%) of the delivery bikes are scooters...I hate twist and go bikes...I like to choose my gears...so I don't have 5 things I hate about Innovas and Waves... sometimes I would prefer cast wheels like the Wave because corroded spokes and rims really annoys me...makes it look untidy...guess I'll have to get a new rim next year and the other a year after...the C125 Super Cub is way too expensive..as is the trail version which is a bit better of the 2

[@gerhardsteinhofer]

​@@markianclark9645And the Innova has a kick start!!!

[@st2216]

No 6: The leg fairing and the steering plastic covers make access difficult..., and they don't look easy to remove. A big negative for me!

[@ryanwatson911]

I disagree with the keyless ignition. It is fantastic, I commute to and from work on mine (on 4000 miles on the clock currently) and the ability to get my gear on with keys in the pocket and just jump on and go is great! Also how in the hell do you mention 5 things you hate without giving the mirrors a mention? Mirrors may well as well not be there until you fit extenders

[@Mrfish2015]

Lol I get the mirrors but that would make 6 .. I put extenders on and they were forever vibrating loose , so back to standard crap ones

[@SaqibKhaliq]

Lovely editing. I don't mind the keyless. I agree though it is stupid not being able to get to the tool kit if the battery is flat.

[@GenXoutofamerica]

Ok....great video. I very much enjoyed it. Now...I live in Vietnam and I have a Honda wave, which is pretty much the same platform just a bit sportier looking. Same transmission though with the same shitty shift pattern. A bit of advise for your down shifting. When your shifting down, hold the shift lever down and then rev the engine slightly before letting up on the shift lever. This allows you to rev match. It takes a bit of getting used to however it makes down shifting so much smoother. Practice a bit where there's no traffic and it should only take a few minutes to get the concept down. I hope this helps you avoid that wheel chirp. It will also give your clutch more life.

[@swisarmygrlfrend]

Thanks for the note about watching the proximity of your key to the bike! I’m looking at getting one and that is definitely a handy tip to keep in mind when out and about!

[@Mrfish2015]

It’s a very small proximity so have a check before you camp to know the distance

[@Wraste1]

@@Mrfish2015 You can actually turn the key fob off. In the owners manual on page 30. Hold the On/Off button on the fob until the LED goes red and it's off. Do it again until it goes green and you're back in action!

[@bigglyguy8429]

@@Wraste1 Yeah as long as the battery is good and it didn't get damp with the morning dew it'll start right up, really it will...

[@JodysJourney]

No charging point? Might be a deal breaker for me. Thanks.

[@cubgsan]

Good day to you. I am a Honda Cross Cub Grandpa from Japan. It is a nice C125 video!! Thank you so much for sharing. Have a nice day!!

[@davek9384]

Newbie question.....I am looking for what will be my first bike. For this Honda, I've seen several mentions of rev matching when down shifting. Pardon my ignorance, but what is rev matching? Thanks.

[@Mrfish2015]

It’s a technique where you rev slightly whilst engaging the clutch also known as blipping the throttle , and it makes the gear shift smoother for aggressive down shifts .. it’s something that easier to understand when seen practically

[@davek9384]

@@Mrfish2015 OK, thanks! Appreciate the info - lots to learn...

[@Mrfish2015]

Always things to learn 👍

[@bmp72]

Bench seat will be stepped (like on my Wave110) and wont fix seat problem... youre not supposed to stamp the gearbox, but use the levers travel to slowly let out the clutch. My waveq10s box is brilliant.

[@Theophilus1968]

Love the blue! If you could only have a Honda Super Cub or a Honda Trail in your garage which would you pick? Also, would the seat work for a 5’10” bloke?Great review! Thank you.

[@thejubieexperience]

I have both and I prefer the CT. I think it looks better, the luggage rack is better, and I like the way it handles better. Just subjectively feels like a better fit for me. Neither is a bad bike. I'm thinking of turning the C125 into an urban delivery/commuter bike while using the CT in the mountains or selling the C125. I haven't decided yet.

[@leonidaskaragiannis5599]

When you shift down a gear... I remember from the 90's when you shift down the gear to a super cub you shift down and hold it there for a Second. Then it is like neutral. Rise the rpm and let the gear come in then while the rpm are still hi.

[@TobiasRieperGER]

Thanks for showing this. I wanted to buy one, but now i know, i can't become happy with this bike. I had a gearsetup and auto clutch like this years ago, its awful. And keyless go on a bike? Remove that crap and make the bike cheaper. And i am 1,90m tall, so it could be hard to drive it.

[@TheBuckspygmy]

As someone the wrong side of 70 and also short. The only problem I have with my new super cub is same I have with all motorcycles I have owned. The seat is too high. My second modification after raising and extending the mirrors. I can now see the road behind me and not just my shoulders and elbows, is to get the seat lowered. One inch thick reconstituted foam is you friend.

[@sgsuper1150]

I think a clutch lever and normal clutch/gears would improve the design. Not fitting it in 2020 is weird. It adds more control especially with jurky fuel injection. SH125 is nicer and the CT125 is better utilliy.

[@은진수-m6v]

You can play around with the gear bike. Somewhere between while changing gears there are short moments when clutch is engaging. When you get used to it you can do rev matching with these too.

[@Mongoswede]

my first bike was a Ct90....seat was exact same issue you refer to. I had a padded seat that mounted to the rear rack and I usually sat in the exact same place you talk about. My plan was to make a custom seat and seat pan that would extend back to that spot but still allow for the rack to be used.

[@slam854]

It represents the sea & sky around Japan. In US down in front is down a gear. Depress rear to shift up. I installed a fused battery lead which has a cap on the plug end. The bike is always on a trickle charger & the lead tucks under the seat. This bike also has a proper charging circuit built into the alternator. I love my Super Cub & acknowledge your complaints.

[@martind349]

Edgy mr. fish edgy i'm likin' this

[@Mrfish2015]

😂

[@lordhampton-wick7500]

Keep up with the modern world my friend lots of bikes have charging points these days. The gearbox has always been horrible on Cubs. Also if you don't like the colour why did you buy it? It's a good economical form of transport. I had a 90cc version years ago, and it was ok but I was never in love with it, mine was grey.

[@Mrfish2015]

I don’t understand I said I think it should have a charger .. gearbox thing also makes now sense as it’s reference to changing from other bikes . And colour only 2 choices , it’s just a bit of fun fella ... I did a 5 things I love so will always do a 5 things I don’t .. balance

[@markanderson641]

More to the point, if the bikes too small for you, why would you buy it? Did you buy it “unseen”?

[@richardeyers322]

now you not using the super cub lots,have you had any problems with starting.

[@anthonyprice5596]

Goldwing comes with a USB!! Can't agree with your #1 the keyless idea is great.

[@pierrelauwers8719]

I drive Honda Cubs since 1976 and I still find it difficult to drive smoothly because of this automatic clutch you have to manage with your foot; a normal clutch lever would be ways better. Add to this this clutch weights tons, with this huge flywheel effect which renders rev matching more difficult and necessary at the same time. And yes, this keyless system has nothing to do on such a simple bike.

[@fredziffle1991]

Adding the top box means you loose the pillion seat!!! Prefer the click or Scooby honda more storage under the seat, has a side stand with safety switch, double seat, fully automatic so your always in the right gear.

[@henningandreassen1231]

Yes i can understand i would like the key to . But can i ask You Had a Honda SH 300i i think it was a i ? . But what was the best thinging`s you liked about the bike Im think about buying one is it a good bike Scooter . love to hear what you think .

[@Theophilus1968]

If you could only buy one would you go for the Super Cub or the Hunter Cub. I'm 85% street and 15% screwing around on trails. Cheers and great vid!

[@phrodendekia]

Color scheme is a throwback to the cubs way back in the day.

[@davidwhocares3293]

Interesting....thanx !!

[@kristophertrout7328]

I turn the fob off when not riding so it doesn't run down the battery. Would hate to stop somewhere and have the battery in the fob die. And you know the U.S. model has the shift pattern opposite of the rest of the world. It does make it easier to downshift. I treat the lever like a clutch pedal on a car after the downshift when I lift up my foot.

[@Mrfish2015]

Can you turn the fob off without turning off the immobiliser off ?

[@kristophertrout7328]

@@Mrfish2015 yes but it does make the key light flash. If the battery went dead while riding the key light would start flashing. You would have to plan then where you want to stop and turn off the bike because that would be it. I think there is a way to get it going again but it would require getting into the battery box area, which of course require the screwdriver you couldn't get because of the dead battery in the fob. 😡

[@waynedl99]

Looks like you could use a 2p piece on the battery box?

[@splodge5714]

Yes that's what I use to open the door to the tool kit on my 1959 BSA.

[@Mrfish2015]

Can use anything that fits as long as it’s not in the tool box lol

[@Explore_With_Tommy]

It’s designed that a flat sided coin (50p or 20p) can open it.

[@marks-0-0]

I believe Honda are not selling the Cub next year in the UK. It must not have been a big seller here.

[@bilvtumane]

Stumbled on this by accident. I really enjoyed your narration. Like, really! I have 2x Yamaha 2 strokes and a 250cc Honda. Thinking about one of these...you made me smile, with your dislikes and all. :D Cheers from Maine.

[@jackvoss175]

I think there’s a way to connect to the battery, and run a lead up to the handle bars for a USB port? Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@davidhamilton506]

Mr Fish. I've just now watched a video with a SuperCub, where you can, (if you wish to), covert it into a trike, by way of a superb kit. An absolute stunning piece of kit, (pun intended), and comes with left and right side shock absorbers. Included in the kit is a strong matching carry basket, which is quite generous in terms of space. Sporting an eye catching bright orange frame with black mudguards, it's a real stand out. It also allows for it's standard pillion seat, although the kit has been fitted with the model before yours. Simply type in the KZbin box above, "Honda Super Cub Trike Kit. It is uploaded by Seree Automotive. Well it may not be to your taste, but I was mightily impressed at the ease of fitting, and for it's engineered quality. Cheers, ride safe, regards, Davo...

[@ashleyp3161]

What’s it like for vibes Mr Fish. I’ve got a Yamaha 125 and it’s quite vibey. I’m gonna end buying a Cub I know it.

[@dbcooper9935]

Keyless ignition--from the manufacturer: "Something you didn't realize you needed."