The Most Powerful Commanders of 2023 | Power Tier Rankings List | EDH | Magic the Gathering

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@stefanhuber7357
@stefanhuber7357 Жыл бұрын
Coming from 15 years of competitive yugioh - I can’t tell you how clean and not messy the text is here. “Wordy” to you guys is like flavor text for yugioh haha
@raymakerscalisthenics660
@raymakerscalisthenics660 Жыл бұрын
I can only play edison format in yugioh. Otherwise, I can't handle anything past pendulums
@anthonysulpizio2269
@anthonysulpizio2269 Жыл бұрын
I know that feeling
@stefanhuber7357
@stefanhuber7357 Жыл бұрын
@@raymakerscalisthenics660 oh yeah me too! I’m 30 now and playing regular standard yugioh is TAXING to the mind! I too play only Edison these days and EDH for magic
@fredgaeta62
@fredgaeta62 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how people can't follow "the stack" in magic like holy hell let me tell you about "chain links" 😂😢
@stefanhuber7357
@stefanhuber7357 Жыл бұрын
@@fredgaeta62 😂😂😂 don’t tell them about Tearlament and the frequent CL8-10
@Leivve
@Leivve Жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree with Will being C. If Rowin is S then Will is easily A, edging up on S. Everyone gets so focused on Rowin being able to make her spells 200 cheaper, and how it's harder for Will to do the same, the problem with that logic is you don't need to do that. turning a 7 cost game winning bomb into 2 mana after casting a 1 mana heal is just as powerful as reducing the cost by 50, and it still cost 2 mana.
@eddie_cq8276
@eddie_cq8276 Жыл бұрын
Will is sneaky good!
@johndolan21
@johndolan21 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been surprise-wrecked by my friend’s casual Will “peacekeeping” deck enough to hard agree on this
@sanfranfan53
@sanfranfan53 Жыл бұрын
I agree that Will is too low at C. Will definitely has lower risks than Rowan. The lifegain can be very strong, and his decks will only get stronger as time passes. With that being said: I have yet to see a Will deck win a game strictly based off of Will’s lifegain strategy. The problem with Will is the board-state, or lack there of. Will, typically, needs an established board to thrive at optimal power, where Rowan doesn’t need much of a board at all. Will doesn’t storm off like Rowan does. Sure, there are lifegain spells that can get you started; but you have to spend significantly more mana to get Will going. That’s only if you don’t want to build Will as an Azorius Stax deck.
@MetaLibanez1
@MetaLibanez1 Жыл бұрын
​@@N4chtigallbro it's very easy to lose life on your own turn in rakdos colors. Black Market connections, bolas citadel, any of the pay 2/3 life to draw spells, any of the cards that let you pay 2 life on a death trigger to draw a card etc etc, even phyrexian arena etc. Gaining life is mostly through etbs, sorceries or lifelinkers which will cost you more Mana on that turn before you can tap will to pop off. Will is good, but rowan is waaaaaay better.
@gershomtan5879
@gershomtan5879 Жыл бұрын
​@@MetaLibanez1paying life is linked to the power cards too. 2 colour lands that cost life to enter untapped, or paying life to tap for colours instead of colourless. The one ring costs life to turbo charge your card draw engine. Paying life for ancient tomb, possibly losing life on a coin flip for mana crypt. Basically, you have a shit ton of very powerful cards that cost life.
@hudsonbaker5029
@hudsonbaker5029 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Ixalan precon commander tier list!
@hiddenleaf414
@hiddenleaf414 Жыл бұрын
Sad to see my favorite commander from this year, Kellan, the Fae-Blooded, not on this list. One of my favorite Boros commanders to come out in years and I'm able to run all the other Boros equipment/aura commanders in the deck. 1v1 the deck is a monster, always being able to grab an enchantment like Darksteel Mutation or Swift Reconfiguration to turn off a commander early game is usually GG.
@syeven7979
@syeven7979 10 ай бұрын
I run him in my Nahiri deck! Wonderful synergy between the two.
@scarletrobin
@scarletrobin Жыл бұрын
Feels like Oner Axonil is oppressive in casual and terrible in competitive. Weird space to be in. He just does so much damage and comes back pretty easily in games that go long
@marimi46
@marimi46 Жыл бұрын
I think you maybe underrated Ellivere a bit. Even in non-stax she pops off if you run a bunch of strong combat oriented creatures. Ghalta is incredibly easy to slot into the deck and it can become a 30/30 trample in no time. You also get to run evasion auras and blink synergies to get Ellivere's ability over and over, and you get enchantress effects too
@isaacallen563
@isaacallen563 Жыл бұрын
For cards like Kutzil, I think keywording that word salad as "Pumped" would work. WoTC already keworded "mill", so there's a precedent to using player shorthand phrases. So then Kutzil would be worded "Whenever one or more pumped creatures you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card"
@MunchBurger9
@MunchBurger9 11 ай бұрын
Honestly this makes so much sense and they should 100% do this or something similar
@poweringdom.1552
@poweringdom.1552 Жыл бұрын
Elesh Norn doubling your ETB and cancelling other ETB should be way higher then C tier. Considering ETB being a heavily favoured trigger ability in EDH.
@LetsKuja
@LetsKuja 11 ай бұрын
Yes but no actually. It's too slow and needs "more investment" to actually work. It's jsut too slow in the wrong mono color. Near every S tier can relieably kill the board by the time Elesh Norn is out. That's why she is C. Still strong, don't get me wrong but "speed" is a huge factor on "tierlists"
@toedrag-release
@toedrag-release 11 ай бұрын
Etali being higher than Elesh is criminal. It's 16mana blightsteel Elesh can shut everything down
@poweringdom.1552
@poweringdom.1552 11 ай бұрын
@@toedrag-release etali is good, any deck with the right color can play him. He is however not good as a commander. +Most of the time u use etali for the ETB trigger not the transform. Still not way he should be higher than Elesh as commander
@TBigRed1
@TBigRed1 Жыл бұрын
Unctus consistently wins me games turns 2 through 5. It's broken and search in blue is a lot easier for wizards than you would think. So many infinite combos. 😊
@SteveBillyy
@SteveBillyy 10 ай бұрын
What’s your deck list I’m curious :)
@luceeva7
@luceeva7 11 ай бұрын
Zimone and Dina is actually really powerful early game with untap cards and zombie recursion like gravewalker for example she’s way more powerful the more you look into her builds
@ericmenke3475
@ericmenke3475 Жыл бұрын
"Let's make every deck Stax" - Eddie
@thisjust10
@thisjust10 Жыл бұрын
Staxstaxstax. Everybody! Control and stax aren't always overlapping but I get the impression they do for Eddie lol
@kayaskye7970
@kayaskye7970 11 ай бұрын
Shoutout to one of my favorite commanders not mentioned in this list. Rocco, Street Chef, From the MOM: Aftermath set. Incredibly fun and strong deck.
@blaineallen5297
@blaineallen5297 Жыл бұрын
Why is it that once the commander is not going to stack route its automatic to low tier?😢
@chewy3141
@chewy3141 Жыл бұрын
Yeah ellivere is great at being a solid enchantment deck that unlike others actually pushed for a wincon (Sythis)
@blaineallen5297
@blaineallen5297 Жыл бұрын
@@chewy3141 i dont rely much on draws but low cost creatures with trample or evasions, and just keep on smacking, with it i draw cards as well from elii's ability
@tobiassieber6934
@tobiassieber6934 Жыл бұрын
How would you rate smeagol a helpful guide and sovereign okinec halaul for a "non-infinite" playgroup?
@ilikeboom100
@ilikeboom100 11 ай бұрын
The power creep is insane when a card like norn with tons of other cards stapled to it in the command zone is only c
@Jose-wq4zr
@Jose-wq4zr Жыл бұрын
Bartolome is a sack outlet in the zone, idk id give him b but mid b imo
@DanielRamirez-ju9nj
@DanielRamirez-ju9nj Жыл бұрын
Sad not seeing Hylda of the Icy Crown on here :(
@lomalindasmogcheck1
@lomalindasmogcheck1 Жыл бұрын
33:07 Heliod is so incredibly busted. The only downside is the flip at sorcery speed. (This keeps it just out of cedh top tier) Heliod+smothering tithe+folio of fancies=go to town! Mine is mono white pillow forte group hug, win con is Approach of the Second Sun. Opponents know of it's inevitability. (Every body lives needs to go in it).
@AssasinsCore
@AssasinsCore Жыл бұрын
100% agree, I have mine as CEDH and while it is not top tier it is not that far off. You are in the colors with really good stax pieces to slow the game down which is what you need for this commander as getting him to flip is the most difficult part. Once you flip him, unless the board deals with him almost immediately you are practically guaranteed the win. He also pseudo shuts down all the card draw engines like Rhystic study and The One Ring. Opponents think twice about drawing from these engines because it just fuels this commander. Being able to flash in all your win cons is so powerful.
@thriftypsgr
@thriftypsgr Жыл бұрын
Haven’t watched the whole thing , only on third commander but Hylda and Ellevier need to be A tier. Those decks go HAM and are both fairly budget friendly
@riverhale6469
@riverhale6469 Жыл бұрын
Hylda isn’t A tier. It can be powerful but it’s a slow strategy and doesn’t scale well against higher power pods where creatures may be less common. It’s a powerful B tier deck, but it can’t hang with decks as powerful as Atraxa, Etali, or Narset, imo.
@SuperAmaton
@SuperAmaton Жыл бұрын
My take (all Commanders not listed I agree with). These are my oppinions and NOT law (though they totally should be =) Ehhhh... Farmer cotton is at best a B, perhaps even a C for me. A commander shouldn't be a one time trigger, but something that is still usefull 2-3 turns later. While definitly weaker than Rowan, Will is still good because he won't make you die to a lightning strike to the face and there are several cards in both blue and white or even artifacts that you can feed all that nice extra mana into. I'd put him into a high B or even a low A, but definitly below Rowan. Offff, HARD disagree. Elesh Norn is at least an upper C, more likely even a middeling B. White has everything really so not even her colour limits her much and with Norn's Annex and Ghostly Prison you can build up an Army without your enemies being able to compete since they have to pay a lot to even get a hit in at you. Eleviere will slow down the game a lot so you have to be prepared to need longer than an hour with her (and you should keep count of all enchantments with a dice or notepad). But she is deceptively strong. When I played her the first time (not knowing how good she was) I suddenly had her as an 16/16 on turn 4. With the unmodified Precon-Deck! At least B, if not A. For Heliod, yes, some settup is needed. But both a discount on mana-cost and playing at Flash-Speed? That's a Rank B guranteed, perhaps even Rank A Wow, you reallly don't like White. Well, I already made my argument again. The only downside I see with Mondrak is that he can't activate his own effect, but there are a lot of White Token Generators. And he can protect himself by becoming indestructible. So at least a C. Red I actually agree has some problems, especially carddraw. I still think D is too harsh, but I can see it. Tom Bombadil. In D. (sounds of a door opening, sounds of steps towards it, SLAM SLAM SLAM). Yeah, freak no. Rank A, with potential for S. I can understand if you refuse to play against Discard. But refusing to play a game because its long is laughable. Ojer Taq is a Rank B. I won't repeat my argument for white. Overall your placements are largely good, but I really can't understand your dislike of Tom Bombadil.
@raptortown
@raptortown Жыл бұрын
Probably no big win con for sagas to help him. I'm still trying to make a deck for him
@raptortown
@raptortown Жыл бұрын
@user-nu3hf2ws8b any good recommendations cards to help him? I'm still making his deck and pretty much just throwing anything that a saga or enchantment
@jaashstob
@jaashstob Жыл бұрын
Slimefoot and Squee wasn't even mentioned. Casual indeed.
@eddie_cq8276
@eddie_cq8276 Жыл бұрын
Eddie here: We picked roughly the to 10% of commanders (in our opinions). That means 90% didn't make the cut - and that is rough! Even getting through this many took over an hour, so we just had to draw the line somewhere. S&S are still awesome.
@benjaminrobinson6507
@benjaminrobinson6507 Жыл бұрын
not even a metion of lord of the nazgul either & that dude is a powerhouse. this isnt casual, its precon.
@VileWarsmith
@VileWarsmith Жыл бұрын
I have a question regarding some cards I have in my dinosaur deck. Say I have Wayta, Trainer Prodigy on the field as well as a Marauding Raptor. If another dinosaur enters the battlefield and the raptor damages it, would that trigger marauding raptor an additional time? I don't think it would trigger the first part of the last ability since that was caused by an etb not damage but would it give my raptor +4/+0 rather than +2/+0? I'm very confused by the wording here.
@MetaLibanez1
@MetaLibanez1 Жыл бұрын
Rowan is the definition of a glass cannon but the idea of like a turn 3 or 4 exsanguinate for x=30 is kinda funny.
@echoesvayne9790
@echoesvayne9790 Жыл бұрын
and then losing to someone casting a lightning bolt in response... that literally just happened this week where I killed the Rowan player after they burnt their life total to 1 trying for a turn 3 win... just sat there staring at the bolt in my hand patiently waiting while they spun wheels to get their kill spell on the stack... 😂
@MetaLibanez1
@MetaLibanez1 Жыл бұрын
@@echoesvayne9790 makes for a hilarious gotcha moment though haha. Never didn't have it.
@colinbunn6066
@colinbunn6066 11 ай бұрын
Love the list. My one hang-up is Elesh Norn D tier. I have an Elesh Norn commander deck that I unlocked after I realized one thing: the Ardent Etchings combined with Proliferate is a lethal combination. If you proliferate the saga from 2 to 3 counters, then you wipe the board and have 40 damage with your 5 incubated Phyrexians. The deck can easily win by turn 7 or 8 after wiping all your opponents out with damage. While Elesh Norn as a creature is good, you really play her to get the saga going.
@Black7308
@Black7308 11 ай бұрын
I have a Norn deck, you have a deck list online to share? Trying to get some ideas
@dylanwestren
@dylanwestren 10 ай бұрын
Turn 7-8 isn't fast enough these days to be top tier. My sons Krick deck destroys me at turn or sometimes before
@coolColombianguy
@coolColombianguy 11 ай бұрын
Talion as "B" Commander is a crime. Nothing less than "A"
@cenobit0815
@cenobit0815 11 ай бұрын
hidetsugu and kairi goes infinite with mass reanimate spells, creatures that return spells from graveyard to hand and sac outlets. all of those are plenty available in dimir. graveyard hate artifacts also make sure that opponents do not get anything out of their graveyard when going infinite with mass reanimate and also draw you card to assamble the combo. also any normal reanimate spell works as life insurance for you until you draw the combo. thus the renimate build is much more consistant than the copy one. my 50$ budget deck wins frequently against much more expensive decks and its my favorite deck until now.
@NyahBoyOwO
@NyahBoyOwO Жыл бұрын
Imodane not even on the tier list???, she is easily the best burn commander in the format.
@ashhuman2412
@ashhuman2412 11 ай бұрын
100%! My Imodane deck is one of my faves. Rarely wins but always fun!
@dylanwestren
@dylanwestren 10 ай бұрын
I would like to see where imodane ranks too, interested in building a deck around her
@edge929
@edge929 11 ай бұрын
Kutzil is pretty good with Arahbo as your commander. Free +3/+3 every turn. (Same with Sovereign Okinec Ahau)
@Jakestiles13
@Jakestiles13 Жыл бұрын
Love shalai and hallar, I run hydras for the lols
@ajlivster5815
@ajlivster5815 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Talion is at B-Tier. I don't even play him but obviously you guys need to be more exposed to playing against him bc the card draw engine is absolutely absurd. With the most competitive colors in edh, you guys need to rereview. Also, Will at C-tier? I just can't 😂😂😂
@UniversalJuan
@UniversalJuan Жыл бұрын
I just built Will thinking it might be pretty casual...left unchecked for even a single turn, I run away with the game every time. Minimum A tier
@ryanbollinger1759
@ryanbollinger1759 11 ай бұрын
I think you guys forgot to talk about Jin Gitaxias // The Great synthesis. Absolutely devastating mono blue commander.
@da1tem
@da1tem Жыл бұрын
They really underestimate the power of tom bombadil at LEAST B tier imo
@simonvega7640
@simonvega7640 Жыл бұрын
nah, sagas are cool and many are good, but bomba is just slow, he is simply a lategame commander and those often struggle in edh, especially when edh goes more into modern direction from year to year (manacurves, commander cmc and so on).
@Naturessightsandsounds7040
@Naturessightsandsounds7040 Жыл бұрын
Not even the best Saga commander narci, fable singer will actually win you the game at some point.
@lucianodepasqua4660
@lucianodepasqua4660 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to Magic and I'd like to know which of the preconstructed commander decks you recommend to start with. No related videos found. I see that many MTG offers prebuilt and I have not seen any comparison. My budget is up to 50 dollars/euros.
@zackregister7101
@zackregister7101 Жыл бұрын
The lost caverns actually happen to be purty good going from pirates at the bottom to vampires at the best but there all good
@ianoble
@ianoble 11 ай бұрын
Should have zoomed in on the final result and posted a link to it.
@nivedmodo
@nivedmodo Жыл бұрын
My will deck slaps. I will Stan that deck all day. I think rowan is so easy to snipe or watch herself kill herself
@georgewashington2813
@georgewashington2813 10 ай бұрын
I love your vids and you've earned a sub. Only criticism would be that I would prefer a 3 hour long vid and have you guys spend more time on each card by showing some cards that combo off of each, an extra 15 seconds on each wouldn't hurt. Sometimes you're going too fast for me to fully process everything you're saying. Obviously your own time is limited and I understand you simply may not have time to record, watch, and edit before posting but just saying it would really move your tier list from an A to an S tier.
@SoupServerdCold
@SoupServerdCold Жыл бұрын
8:38 now do you take the Rona with lime lol
@dfetzer707
@dfetzer707 Жыл бұрын
No Francisco??? Talion not being S is also WILD
@casuallydone468
@casuallydone468 11 ай бұрын
I think just due to cEDH trends regardless of how you think, Atraxa and Lotho probably pretty much undeniably have to go to S tier. They are quite literally in that realm of strongest commanders without partner ever printed period.
@bleedon4
@bleedon4 Жыл бұрын
I think Galadriel, Light of Valinor deserves to be an A. If you have a Koma type effect and you build it primarily with with flash creatures as I have. You are consistently able to respond to anything the table throws at you with how much you are scrying and drawing
@UniversalJuan
@UniversalJuan 11 ай бұрын
Even without those, you could run it with a few flash creatures, bounce creatures, and flash enablers and you're taking a turn on every turn the moment you get her to drop. You get to easily run Chuulane as a secret backup commander, too
@jamesespinosa690
@jamesespinosa690 10 ай бұрын
Talion is busted because you can clone him!! Spark Double + Sakashima and a few others allows you to get past it being a legendary!!!
@NyxTheScary
@NyxTheScary Жыл бұрын
Holy fuck Grand Uinifer was this year?!
@Cerjelo
@Cerjelo Жыл бұрын
It seems every commander is compared to cEDH in regards to combos and power level. Made this tier list super wonky and annoying to watch.
@zkull777
@zkull777 Жыл бұрын
Audio is a little on the low end mic's would be ideal.
@Lucas-xy9qh
@Lucas-xy9qh 10 ай бұрын
Heliod is a Beast. We got destroyed a few weeks back. If hes flipped and rdy to go you better have some counters up your sleeve. Hes A at least.
@swalkeeatake3350
@swalkeeatake3350 Жыл бұрын
How is Grand Unifier not an instant S tier ?? Seven mana is not that much in edh especially in green, not even talking about the reanimate strategy, and once she's out you can abuse that etb to instantly win or just use the impressive stats and keywords to take over the game, in cedh, this was the most busted commander released this year easily.
@rmcdaniel2424
@rmcdaniel2424 11 ай бұрын
Minnesota KZbin!?! :D See the Brrr shirt! Awesome haha
@tommieboi707
@tommieboi707 11 ай бұрын
2023 and you guys didnt have mishra claimed by gix on here? Blasphemous act! That dude is the villain every game! Ask me how i know!!
@xF3arl
@xF3arl Жыл бұрын
Hey I know we got a billion Magic products this year, and I may have missed it, or it might have just not been covered, but did TCQ do a tier list for the Doctor Who product?
@noobtuber10
@noobtuber10 11 ай бұрын
Lot of these commanders are stronger than listed, heliod for sure is one
@connerentrekin4452
@connerentrekin4452 11 ай бұрын
Why was the best typal commander of 2023 not on this list the great Urtet Reminant of Memnarch?
@Saint0fPain
@Saint0fPain Жыл бұрын
What about Frodo and Sam partners, cry.... I can live the Food dream!
@echoesvayne9790
@echoesvayne9790 Жыл бұрын
the fact that when you were talking about Tom Bombadil... and said' "he's a hardy fellow"... and didn't immediately follow with "and his boots are yellow" is a huge flavor fail... and should move him up a rank
@stanstanminsonfrancisco8645
@stanstanminsonfrancisco8645 Жыл бұрын
no urtet makes me sad ;-;
@OMaIIey
@OMaIIey Жыл бұрын
Doing my girl Hylda dirty and not even adding her to this list haha
@Mangeurdemouton
@Mangeurdemouton 11 ай бұрын
- "white is the weakest color" - Elesh norn, Mother of Machine almost got banned before its release
@tspin5642
@tspin5642 11 ай бұрын
How in the world is a free sack outlet in the command zone not least an A
@hez987654321
@hez987654321 Жыл бұрын
I didn't like how often you "bumped down" VERY POWERFUL commanders just because the most powerful way to build them has stax / hatebear aspects. Stax/MLD is NOT even a viable strategy in cEDH.
@AztechWarrior
@AztechWarrior 11 ай бұрын
How are you going to call Ojer Taq an Omega level commander in one video and then rank him D-tier in this video? Make up your damn mind, dude.
@xenolai3371
@xenolai3371 10 ай бұрын
Where would y'all rate Hylda?
@christopherjacques4923
@christopherjacques4923 11 ай бұрын
I may be too ego driven here but I feel i could convince you otherwise about ojer axonil if I sent you my list.
@josephdillard2648
@josephdillard2648 Жыл бұрын
his buddy is a little bias on mono colored decks but i bet he loses to mono blue everyday
@Duskrequim
@Duskrequim Жыл бұрын
Tom Bombadil as a D... how cute... Seriously... Its one of the most powerful decks I have.
@manwithabasicprofilepic
@manwithabasicprofilepic Жыл бұрын
Being able to get a new Saga immediately after another ends is so nuts. If I had more Sagas and dual lands I’d totally be playing him right now.
@rokship97
@rokship97 Жыл бұрын
@@manwithabasicprofilepic Especially with it just checking that the final ability resolves, keep your old saga and get a new one.
@Duskrequim
@Duskrequim Жыл бұрын
@@rokship97 and depending on how you build the deck you can really go insane. I use Narci, Fable Singer that does life loss to each opponent equal to the Sagas casting cost. Then using Yenna, Redtooth Regent + Three Blind Mice and a huge pay off saga like Kiora Bests the Sea God ive locked down the boards and just taken their life totals to 0 in couple turns.
@JADOW28
@JADOW28 Жыл бұрын
surprised zhulodok didnt make the list
@leodiaz1337
@leodiaz1337 Жыл бұрын
Slimefoot & Squee better than 1/3 of the commanders in S tier. :/ Justice for the FUNgi's
@Mezmerizer4
@Mezmerizer4 Жыл бұрын
The lack of Imodane the Pyrohammer makes me angry!
@eeveelutiions
@eeveelutiions Жыл бұрын
No Imodane, the Pyrohammer??
@wildpackofcorgis1647
@wildpackofcorgis1647 Жыл бұрын
Eriette of the Charmed Apple, where?
@UniversalJuan
@UniversalJuan 11 ай бұрын
Built Eriette Pillowfort, myself. I become public enemy #1 real quick, lol. I love it, though! Especially when I get my aura mover out. Gets so silly
@LetsKuja
@LetsKuja 11 ай бұрын
Where is Saheeli? She is like...really good? You guys are missing out on an A rank commander.
@VraskaTheScene
@VraskaTheScene 9 ай бұрын
Galadriel is oppressive asf, I built her and she has never lost. Galadriel would eat you alive
@txu2011
@txu2011 Жыл бұрын
Amalia feels pretty strong too
@olivierkbidi4570
@olivierkbidi4570 Жыл бұрын
Ellivere C ... Oh boy 🤣🤣 I like when a commander is underrated, it allows me to kick the asses of those who never played it.
@grahambo7251
@grahambo7251 11 ай бұрын
I strongly disagree with your oath breaker take as somebody who runs him as a commander I win about 75% of my games. The evasion is alot better then you think and unless you build to beat him it's not that easy I more likely then not end up with 20 spirits on the board and even if you have a board wipe ill phase them out.
@stormpony918
@stormpony918 11 ай бұрын
What about the jurassic park comanders
@markuskronenwett2476
@markuskronenwett2476 Жыл бұрын
No Eriette?
@redwolf737
@redwolf737 11 ай бұрын
Is zhulodok there?
@jabauokku6274
@jabauokku6274 Жыл бұрын
wherrr Sam & Frodo???
@dubblehelix83
@dubblehelix83 11 ай бұрын
Was this streamed? Why do we need a comment about going on a break so many times? Just put the midrolls in and cut back to the content
@guilhermemelegari7826
@guilhermemelegari7826 11 ай бұрын
Strongly disagree with Ojer Axonil Tier D!!!! I just made a deck that won against very powerful commanders.. Very cheap cost to bring it back to table, and you have plenty of cheap spells and creatures that gives damage 1-2 to each opponent that can easily become 4-10 damage each
@maryse4me
@maryse4me 11 ай бұрын
Will/Rowan can be equally good, it just comes down to personal playstyle. Rowan is just the easier of the two to pull off in one turn, dump a bunch of life into a Wall of Blood or Necropotence, then blast with one big X spell for an OTK…Will is more staxy and controlling, able to maintain for longer in the game with multiple moves and plans to build up to a better board state than Rowan can build……also for their flavor profiles from the lore, she’s explosive and he’s calculated. Makes sense to play them each their own way
@wesleyepperson2821
@wesleyepperson2821 11 ай бұрын
Where is Orvika at?
@EdenGarrix10
@EdenGarrix10 11 ай бұрын
No eriette of the charmed??
@horacecampbell8483
@horacecampbell8483 11 ай бұрын
Wtf… how can u just drop kutzil to a C after thinking it’s an A just because you want a casual version. The card in itself is good so just let it be and rate it what u think initially don’t look for reasons to down play the card for a lower rank.
@Omaxar
@Omaxar 11 ай бұрын
SHELOB CHILD OF UNGOLIANT SHOULD BE ON THIS LIST AND SHOULD BE AN A
@GeniusAsianGuy_official
@GeniusAsianGuy_official Жыл бұрын
No doctor who? 😭
@scottym.9077
@scottym.9077 11 ай бұрын
So we’re ignoring Eriette of the Charmed Apple?
@dylanwestren
@dylanwestren 10 ай бұрын
I want to see where this ranks too
@warhawk94PT
@warhawk94PT Жыл бұрын
Where's Clavileño??
@MetaLibanez1
@MetaLibanez1 Жыл бұрын
I got the precon, upgraded it a decent amount. I play clavileño as the commander because I like him and I have the showcase foil art which is one of my favorite cards in the whole set. But carmen is much better as a commander. I played a game on Monday where I was able to recur Wayfinders bauble 2 or 3 times with Carmen whilst setting up some other vamps and sac outlets on the board and managed to ramp ahead in orzhov and then won with a huge elenda sacrificed into about 80 x 1/1s. Clavileño is sweet but he's not that powerful. Built with a doubler like roaming throne is good, or the artifacts that can tap to copy a triggered ability and also double death triggers like drivnod or teysa karlov. That's the way to get more juice out if Clavileño. 😊
@bloodforrugbyify
@bloodforrugbyify Жыл бұрын
​@@MetaLibanez1do you have a list for your carmen change over?
@warhawk94PT
@warhawk94PT Жыл бұрын
@@MetaLibanez1 yup, throne, teysa and mondrak is the way im doing ir
@datmuhq6821
@datmuhq6821 Жыл бұрын
@@MetaLibanez1Yeah, definitely agree that Carmen is superior. I feel Elenda is better than both of them (and also in the 99 of the precon) though, so to unleash the maximum power i feel like changing to Elenda and making ~15 changes to the 99 will yield the best results.
@hdel389
@hdel389 11 ай бұрын
Come on guys where is jodah? Did you never play against a Jodah the unifier deck?
@mailorderpotato
@mailorderpotato Жыл бұрын
Not a bad episode, but I will say yah talked over your guest quite a bit.
@hinriksup
@hinriksup 11 ай бұрын
no Carmen ?
@Uranylhydroxid
@Uranylhydroxid Жыл бұрын
Edgar Markov where?
@jhal4267
@jhal4267 Жыл бұрын
Bartholome but no clavileno?
@blaze376192
@blaze376192 11 ай бұрын
Elesh norn mom is definitely s tier.
@toxik_yeet4229
@toxik_yeet4229 Жыл бұрын
Where's anikthea???
@lukeerlewein7473
@lukeerlewein7473 Жыл бұрын
Heliod is easilly A tier. If no one has any counterspells it is in respose, I win the game.
@honeybeeees6666
@honeybeeees6666 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a orzhov vampire legend and getting beaten by a bunch of fat, lazy hobbittzez
@beckerchristopher4199
@beckerchristopher4199 11 ай бұрын
Lotho is a Playable cedh Commander, ye lets Put him in B Tier I guess
@joshcolumbo1927
@joshcolumbo1927 Жыл бұрын
Joduh should be in this list
@kirkwright8954
@kirkwright8954 Жыл бұрын
Jodah the Unifier came out in 2022
@Dre-bu8bz
@Dre-bu8bz Жыл бұрын
My boy zhulodok did not even make the list…
@blaineallen5297
@blaineallen5297 Жыл бұрын
😢 ellivere at c
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