CZ SHADOW 2 COMPACT...THE BEST COMPACT CARRY GUN EVER?

[@Michael-u9p1l]

I love CZ pistols. I carry either the CZ P 01 or the P 09. I’ll have the P 10C soon. I’ve had the CZ 75D as well. They’re all great shooting guns. The Shadow 2 is out of my price range right now, but I hope to have one in the future. CZ triggers are fantastic straight out of the box. Walther is the only other manufacturer that has great triggers right from the factory. You can’t go wrong with a CZ!!

[@damonspinelli1352]

For people who don’t like 1911 style condition 1 carry w a safety. You want to carry this quarter cocked for the DA pull without the hammer resting on the firing pin. Without modding to an extended firing pin is a moot point. People say it isn’t safe without a fpb because of the s2 incident. It’s already been proven multiple times the extended fp is the only reason that happened.

[@M1911jln]

You are missing one potential AD scenario. The only thing that keeps the firing pin off the primer is the firing pin spring. The force required to compress that spring is fixed. If you drop the gun onto a hard surface on its muzzle, the gun will stop but the inertia of the firing pin will make the firing pin want to keep going. The higher the drop, the higher the speed of the gun, and the more inertia the firing pin will have. So at some point, a high enough drop onto the muzzle will result in the gun discharging. This is the same exact vulnerability that a 70 series 1911 has. Gunsmith Hilton Yam tested this by creating a fixture that allowed him to drop a 1911 on its muzzle onto a concrete floor. He loaded the gun with a primed case and a magazine full of dummy rounds. He found that a drop of less than 5’ resulted in a discharge. We don’t know how large a drop would be required for a CZ Shadow to discharge, but based on simple physics and the design of the gun it is unquestionable that it has this same vulnerability. Note, I’m not saying that the CZ Shadow 2 and Compact are unsafe. I own a Shadow 2 and have competed with it. I own and have carried 70 Series 1911s for many years. But we need to stop whistling past the graveyard and honestly consider the vulnerabilities of each design. There are good reasons why most modern handgun designs have firing pin blocks. If we are going to own and use handguns without firing pin blocks then we MUST honestly discuss their vulnerabilities.

[@damonspinelli1352]

Sorry, but without an extended safety, unless you are taller than 15ft this simply will not happen. I’ve drop tested my own s2c through a tube onto the muzzle and straight into the hammer without even a mark on the primer. Watch the smith who put it into a vice and literally smacked it with a literal hammer. Too much internet theoreocraft not enough real life testing. Unmodified it’s perfectly safe. Same with 1911’s.

[@M1911jln]

@@damonspinelli1352 This is basic physics. The strength of the firing pin spring is fixed. The inertia of the firing pin is proportional to the height of the drop -- the higher the drop, the higher the inertia. So all you have to do is keep increasing the height of the drop until the inertia of the firing pin overcomes the strength of the spring. This is basic, college-level Physics 101. 2) This isn't just some theoretical argument. Gunsmith Hilton Yam (the guy behind 10-8 Performance) built a test fixture to drop a 1911 onto its muzzle. He found that a Series 70 dropped onto its muzzle would discharge when dropped less than 5'. 3) The extended safety has nothing to do with this. The safety doesn't block the firing pin from moving, so it isn't germane to this type of accidental discharge. The only three things involved in this type of discharge are a) the strength of the firing pin retaining spring, b) the weight of the firing pin, and c) the height of the drop.

[@damonspinelli1352]

You typed all that for what? I can repeat what I’ve already said but I’m not trying to be redundant like you.

[@lbwar15]

⁠@@M1911jlnfor 1 if you drop the gun on the muzzle in that way and it dose go off the muzzle is pointed at the ground. AR’s use a free float firing pin and do not have a spring to hold it in place the firing pin of an AR also weighs more. Ever hear of one going off when dropped on the muzzle? Me either. Correct me if I’m wrong but only series 80 1911’s have fpb. Modern 70 series have a spring to hold the pin back just like the shadow 2 and those are not a problem. Why is it that some 1911’s and rifles can have a floating firing pin but for some reason it’s bad in this case?

[@harrycarpenter1727]

Its a 30 ounce aluminum frame very well balanced has a great trigger and extremely accurate very fast😊

[@mikeamstutz3552]

Left handed CZ fan here, that thing is right up my alley…😍

[@HVSJR-n5q]

For some reason (Biden?) I haven’t been able to find extra magazines. At least not the original sizes. There are other CZ magazines but do they fit? If you’re happy with 2 then fine. I’ve brought mine to my club and let others try it there. There’s been no issues or complaints. Everyone has liked it. I’m not one for bigger magazines as I feel the extra weight unbalances pistols. Making the muzzle rise more. But this compact is real nice. I’m wondering if Biden put a hold on overseas magazines and parts.(?) I heard something about that awhile back. It sounds like something he would do and it would take SCOTUS to stop him so it might last till he’s gone.

[@deangundlach-t4b]

As a guy who likes and own several 1911’s this gun interests me and will be my next purchase

[@keithrader9758]

As a HK VP9 and SK owner, I will surely be grabbing this next. I think this the best looking handgun out there and it is just flat out perfect. CZ definitely holds a special place in my heart for a reason.

[@alfredosenalle9284]

Got mine about a month ago , love this pistol. It shoots a little low when you buy it with their factory 7.5mm front sight , even with the rear sight at maximium height. I did change that sight for a 6.0mm one and its on target now.

[@slumpd3639]

man.... i thought it was just mine. i had the same problem and was kinda mad about it at first until i adjusted upwards and it was significantly better.

[@tubeyouR305]

Great to read this from someone else. I took mine straight to range and was shooting low center, made a few clicks adjustment to rear sight aperture and was right on target. Pistol is so smooth and accurate at the price point, I’m not putting an optic on it. This quickly became my EDC.

[@joshuaraffensperger3592]

Great now I have another CZ to purchase!! Will possibly be my next EDC. My current EDC is a CZ 75D Compact (PCR) and it’s my EDC because it’s my favorite and most reliable pistol.

[@puma51921]

Is this bigger than the pcr?

[@dhn.]

The CZ 75D Compact is a great pistol.

[@thomasfox8027]

I own the 75D PCR and now the Shadow 2 Compact. Both just outstanding pistols !

[@wesmccage]

If this thing only had a decocker instead of a safety. For this reason I prefer my cz 75D compact. Trigger is slightly better, slightly heavier and flatter shooting, but a safety on a da/sa is just annoying. Still love it though.

[@jonn8163]

I’ve had my shadow 2 compact only 4 days and put just over a 1,000 rounds through it already. My only complaint is they did not round off the corners underneath the beavertail quite like they do on the full-size. Shooting that much in a short period of time has given my a hot stop in the web of my hand. Not sure why they didn’t mimic the full size. It’s a subtle difference, but you can definitely feel it in the hand when shooting lots of rounds

[@agentsmith7658]

Enough to cause you to dislike it? Or worth dealing with…

[@Blakehenry11]

Good feedback

[@rmagistr]

Still having a hard time finding a holster.

[@paststeve1]

Great video TCCC! I carry a HK P30 SK for all of the same reasons you like the Shadow. I got the LEO Mod trigger so I don't have to remember to move a safety lever or anything else other than the single action trigger. I'm glad to see that your channel is growing.

[@davidjh1830]

Nice job. Appreciate the no nonsense review. Mine is coming in 2 days 🎉😊

[@FidelTshivhasa]

The for the elaborate breakdown. I was actually struggling to makes sense of what DA/SA actually meant and had been actually watching a bunch of vids. There's a some folks out there on KZbin talking smack about this pice of fine art that I currently have my eyes on. The safety is not a problem for me personally. I think anybody who's trained enough will adapt to the safety feature as a necessary feature in their own regimen. After watching this video, I'm convinced this is an awesome piece for my Security Protection Unit.

[@HVSJR-n5q]

Just got mine earlier in the week. Can’t wait to give it a beating. Weather permitting. Gotta pay for indoors. My was $1275 Whole setup probably $2000 I don’t think the front sight is bright enough. But I believe it could end up as my EDC. Near perfect in the hand but I’ll probably tweak it some.

[@chiroptera3376]

My shadow 2 compact came in today!!! For anyone wondering weight fully loaded it feels the same weight as my Glock 34 with a light, red dot, and +5 mag extension (loaded). It’s a hefty Glock 19. But the weight is soooooo down from the Shadow 2 (also have it they weight is unbelievable difference) beautiful gun videos just don’t do it justice

[@harrycarpenter1727]

My Shadow 2 Compact Is my favorite for sure 😊😊 very great shooting and beautiful

[@wesmccage]

I must have gotten a lemon 07. My trigger is heavy and slightly gritty. I’d guess about 5 to 6lbs. Worse than any of my other CZs.

[@zenjon7892]

CZ and Walther are my favorite European handgun brands

[@grortiz24x7]

Same feeling The more I shoot the more I like it

[@mountaingoat168]

I think all gun reviews should include a category for field stripping ease. For example, the glock can be disassembled stupid easy, the Shadow2 compact will challenge you. Especially if you really don't want to mar your finish.

[@ahmedreyes1176]

If u have a cz p01 with Cajun trigger job don’t need a shadow at all, cz my favorite brand the most reliable and ergonomic guns.

[@SigAXG320]

absolutely. I have a CGW pro package p01 and its trigger is better than the stock S2 compact ( I had the chance to dry fire the S2 compact up against my p01). And I love/prefer the decocker on my p01. The main advantage of the S2 compact is that it's optics ready.

[@connor5439]

Which do you prefer since they came out around the same time, the CZ Shadow 2 Compact or the P365 AXG Legion?

[@gentrydebbie1040]

Finally Got One was hard to Find . I sure Like it . I have a cz shadow 2 orange ,the triggers are very Good i have a staccato C that has my best Trigger . the cz is right There . I Like to carry with the Hammer Down like you safety off . After waiting 8 months i got mine for $1288.00 + Tax.

[@jtpiercy1966]

Czpo7 for me great video

[@thomasfox8027]

I absolutely love Crossbreed Super Tucks as well, and have an excellent belt as well, but, unless you know something I don't know, Crossbreed does not yet have a holster for the Shadow 2 Compact yet, do they???

[@joshuaraffensperger3592]

Wonder if it comes in a decocker only option like the CZ 75D Compact (PCR). I don’t like safeties on my EDC pistols.

[@CurtisBrandt]

Not at this time. Some of us, who truly love CZs, cannot consider carrying this gun. It’s not safe to decock, and the single action trigger is not only light but has a very indistinct wall. I thought Colion Noir was being a sissy about the trigger. He wasn’t.

[@Osprey1994]

If your finger is in the trigger guard, it's because you ARE shooting, not because you are THINKING about shooting. As for the decocking, you simply use your support hand to cover the pin, and then let the hammer down gently. I tested this with a SP01, and it works just fine.

[@damonspinelli1352]

Quarter cocked, safety off. Problem solved. Condition 1 for us 1911 fudds who ride safety instinctually for that sweet sweet single action.

[@CurtisBrandt]

@@Osprey1994 I decock shadow 2s hundreds to thousands of times at the range every year. I use the thumb roll technique and it feels pretty reliable. I still don’t want to do that in my home. Have you shot the S2 compact and used the single action trigger? It’s extremely light and the wall is surprisingly indistinct. Just because you’re shooting doesn’t mean you want unintended discharges.

[@miroslavm2553]

This gun is for hard core gun enthusiasts with taste and who understands guns well. It does have built in de-cocker, just need to learn how to use it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKjSZniMicxrfq8si=uO-fu3ITd7n7CsFt

[@richemmerling4705]

Nice gun. Would like to see a de-cocker on it though. I'd prefer carrying it double action first shot, but don't like that the hammer has to be manually lowered on a live round.

[@allensharp6876]

You didn’t grow up shooting DA revolvers did you ? Lowering the hammer over a loaded chamber was just part of the operation of those pistols. I guess it’s just old geezers who don’t mind this way decocking .

[@richemmerling4705]

@@allensharp6876 Yes, I did grow up shooting DA revolvers, but why would you have to lower the hammer over a loaded chamber? Every DA revolver I ever shot I shot it. Never had to worry about lowering the hammer. If I cocked it I shot it. And yes, I'm 66 yrs old so I've been around a little while.

[@Xyrium]

How are you getting to DA after you rack a round?

[@SigAXG320]

You have no choice but to let the hammer down manually while easing the trigger forward. It's one reason I prefer my cajunized p01 with the decocker.

[@robertlewis9419]

Needs a decocker. Love my PO1

[@Turdburglar97]

I’d buy it

[@Blakehenry11]

Its a great gun, just don't know if I would ever carry it. I already have it in full size so I will probably eventually get one just don't know how soon.

[@jiljik]

Will the trigger return spring break? The same spring is used in almost all CZ75 type pistol. My brand new P07 TRS broke after 200 rounds. I won't carry this for self defense.

[@rkpagano]

Get another spring from CGW and it will help the trigger pull as well as be stronger. I have over 10,000 rounds through a P07 with and CGW TRS with no issues. It is the exact same spring as the Shadow 2 compact.

[@JNOSNOW]

If you don't want to pay the $1,200 get a P-01, put a Cajun Pro package in it, and your 95% the way there.

[@alijaffery7735]

I can’t find any reputable holster makers making holsters for it. I prefer Dara for my holsters and I noticed for appendix carry not many companies use “soft loops” for where to put the belt thru, I’m not a fan of the clip on holsters.

[@cranchcranch7015]

maybe someone knows? Shadow 2 upgrade kit fits Shadow 2 Compact especially interested in the spring for a lighter bolt

[@Three60Crusader]

What holster from crossbreed did this fit in?

[@G7NoVaS]

Is the guide rod on the s2c metal?

[@trejones1530]

Can you do canik tp9sfx ?

[@305dave]

Whats everyone's (or anyone's) opinion on weather to get Shadow 2 Compact or Cajunize my p01? This is for CC purposes.

[@paststeve1]

This comment is to boost my good friend Al Gorhythm.

[@vitorhugocasanova8974]

Very very good

[@johnb.5217]

Can't find it anywhere. Any this one for my collection 😪

[@dawudasha977]

I don't know why but the Star Firestar always reminded me of the CZ75. Both great shooters. Firestar a little heavy but i like it. Carried a Firestar in AZ for years. It's a tank

[@trooper64428]

It's really an all metal CZP07.

[@shenikafryar934]

Which is better the Cz shadow 2 or the Cz shadow compact

[@cramerlong2276]

Depends what you want it for . If you don't EDC . Go full size . They are accurate and fast

[@damonspinelli1352]

Not comparable. S2 is a full sized comp oriented handgun. S2c is a compact designed as a carry option off the original S2.

[@Sifo_Dyas]

Why are these so scarce in the US? Yes, popularity--why isn't CZ keeping up?

[@adrianalejo91]

I agree, been trying to get my hands on one for the last 3 months and no luck yet.

[@will7664]

PSA has them in stock ​@@adrianalejo91

[@joshuaraffensperger3592]

Fairly common in my area. The only ones that are scarce in my area are the limited production models like the CZ 75D (PCR). Took me forever to find one four years ago which has been my EDC ever since.

[@adyz]

I'm Czech and they have them stock most places here in its homeland. Little over $1500 though

[@SilicateSyndicate]

I just picked one up last week. My local gun shop Modern Warriors in Utah had 7 of em. Look em up online

[@garypoborsky7073]

why isn't it listed on the website

[@rmagistr]

Has anyone found a good holster for this?

[@flipperzero9662]

I have a safety preference due to having a kid. One extra layer of protection.

[@timwittman2881]

Is this pistol drop safe?

[@Robert-ef3kt]

Interessante Hintergrund- Farbe. So haben die Tapeten der 60er Jahre in Wien ausgesehen 😁

[@tonyromano6220]

😂😂

[@hankmoody2496]

Stupid question but I’m new owner. How do you get it to double action after one in chamber? Hope that makes sense

[@bigfloppa2124]

I would tell you, but you seriously need to watch a video on how to do it safely. I recommend the "rolling the thumb" method where you block the hammer with your thumb between the slide and hammer, and once the hammer is past halfcock you can release the trigger and it is now safe to rest the hammer fully decocked. As I said though, don't attempt this without an example to follow please.

[@williamscarbrough-z6t]

Drop the hammer

[@paullebon323]

Is the safety also a decocker? If it isn't, that thing is dead to me.

[@dianejones2775]

I noticed that you didn’t give us the difference in weight between the 2 guns. Being a female, it’s not as easy for us to carry really heavy guns.

[@_Jashawuh]

Length Height Width Weight G19 Gen5 7.28 in 5.04 in 1.34 in 23.81 oz Shadow 2 Compact 7.51 in 5.43 in 1.38 in 30.69 oz

[@cramerlong2276]

*@dianejones2775* It's almost 2 pounds . Depends where you carry it . If you are used to a Micro compact it will feel heavy . But your body will get used to it

[@awsomedude9111]

CZ P-10 for around $450 on sale

[@MrTanimgt]

Have you forgotten the fact that as a carry gun you can not keep that rear sight if you put an optic? When will CZ become not an idiot and make their gun so that user don't have to loose the rear sight

[@jonn8163]

With a decent optic I don’t think you have anything to worry about but there are a few companies making plates with a rear sight built in. If they did give you the plate with the firearm I would ding them for not having a rear site built in but it being based off the full size, the entire concept was based on competition which most remove the iron sites when having an optic

[@MrTanimgt]

@@jonn8163 The reason I am concerned about rear sight is First, I do not want to spend more money to buy aftermarket accessories after paid more than 1K on gun and 2nd, would you consider Aimpoint optic that US military use on their M4A1 as a good optic? I want to tell my experience, during the firefight after the first mag my optic died, before patrol we put fresh battery on everything, it's a standard SOP. I had one new battery in my left shoulder pocket, I immediately changed the battery but it didn't turn on. Then I used the rear sight that comes standard on M4A1. So I don't know about others but I personally require a backup sight on my fighting/defensive gun.

[@Just_The_Don]

Man brother the complaining has to stop , sound like my ole girl

[@cramerlong2276]

@@MrTanimgt Have you ever pulled a gun? I have 2 times . Fortunately in both cases I didn't have to fire . Red dots on carry guns while popular. Aren't really practical. In 99% of self defense shooting You don't have time to use sights or red dots . The attacker is to close . In my situations I was able to get the drop on one and the second guy ran away . Believe me a Red dot is nice . But your odds it will fail at that moment of truth really doesn't matter . Your odds of having to pull your gun are 10 million to one . Your odds of your red dot failing when those odds play out is even higher against . When it happens you won't be aiming . If you actually have to shoot . Most will get the holster cleared and fire or they'll have time to get to cover shooting cover shots . It's not like TV and Movies . It all happens like a car accident . Kaboom If it happens that you have a siltation where you do have to aim and the red dot isn't working . Many have rear sights built in. I personally carry one gun on me and another in my trunk . That one has a long barrel and backups to my dot . The gun I conceal has no red dot and if the fight gets so bad I wish I had a dot . I'm likely gonna die or be dead :)

[@MrTanimgt]

@@cramerlong2276 I have not, and I absolutely 100% aggre with you.

[@awakenotwoke4830]

I got one a month after the release. Love the gun. Hate the safety. Why is it so flat, was it not meant to be used?? I must not be the only one because there isn't one in stock on planet earth.

[@wendellhatcher7011]

CZ-P01 enters the chat 😂

[@radekfaron5546]

CZ shadow 2 is missing drop safety and decock

[@danthompson1467]

👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@rodanone4895]

have one of these. you can take all my guns away.... not this one. my favorite pistol

[@indyanna5683]

CZ owns Colt? So it's a Colt?

[@joshuaraffensperger3592]

No Colt is now CZ. That’s how it works when a brand buys another brand. Remington didn’t become Marlin when the Marlin brand was purchased by Remington.

[@RatInCage-E102]

An incredibly unintelligent comment

[@johnhoffman5844]

So no decocker

[@TokyoBayCity]

It’s not drop safe, though!

[@maybe5883]

Subscribe not suscribe please. Nice review, for me, a sub compact like my sig p365 xl Spectre comp is a better size for a carry piece and I have 14 in the mag. I don’t see the value for the extra cost, but it’s a nice gun.

[@שמואלברק-ש4ס]

🇮🇱🇮🇱💋❤️👍👌🇮🇱

[@kalacaptain4818]

You have ogre hands

[@truthseeker071]

😂

[@countschad]

Needs wood grips. Metal grips are ugly.

[@jackporter2334]

Decocker instead of safety would make it perfect!

[@harrycarpenter1727]

I would never allow a Glock anywhere near my CZ , hope you cleaned your Shadow and oiled it good, very scary 😮