Natural Black Hair, Identity, and Discrimination - Beyond the Scenes | The Daily Show

[@amp7980]

I'm white but my wife is black. and we have 2 kids. 4 people with 4 very different hair textures and curl patterns. She did the big chop a few years before we met, but I was still there for a lot of her journey in figuring out her natural hair. It took her 10 years to finally find a routine and set of products that give her consistent results.

[@nicholnunn8074]

I'm mixed and my white mom struggled with my hair when I was young. I would imagine that black moms also struggle with their mixed kids..? Mixed hair can be it's own unique experience. I wish your family a happy hair journey.

[@nicholnunn8074]

@@realfiregoddess haha same. My mom let me wear my hair down a couple times and regretted it every time. I came home looking like an eagle's nest. My step kids are mixed but their hair is different from mine and I struggle tying to help them. It is nice to know that we are all fighting the same fight.

[@spiritualowl4871]

You're amazing .. thanks for sharing .. love and life to You and Your family!

[@nubiadandridge7231]

I'm white (and) my wife is black.....

[@MajorHenryL.]

@@nubiadandridge7231 No… “but my wife is black” is also acceptable. Are you a black supremacist? I sense racism in your comment.

[@ajbrownh]

Ive worn my hair natural since 1969! My dad was furious but he soon understood. I had graduated from High School and was on my way to college and Angela Davis was my inspiration!

[@annec8127]

"Freedom is the freedom to make not the best choices." Josh nails it. Great segment as usual, Roy!

[@asksme368]

Josh is right being able to do with the F you want to do However Freedom to me is to be able to live freely without you being the one chosen on how you die when you die Back in the older days they were taken black people freedom because of them being black enjoying seeing us in pain/suffer that do still exist but now it's more of a benefit package a come up ..

[@queenmommie8295]

@@asksme368 what 🤔

[@denisemilly1094]

Hey 👋 how are you doing?

[@amarbyrd2520]

I need part II of this - where they talk about the Black hairdressers who have not been trained to do Black hair -- as soon as you all can get it out, PLEASE

[@cynthialindblom2490]

I was fortunate to attend a cosmetology class tought by a Black man with Back students and Black clients. But there needs to be standard training in Black hair regardless of who is teaching the classes.

[@ladytaylor4299]

Can I just say I could listen to Josh talk for hours he has an amazing voice

[@mlong1968]

Say that!!!

[@anaghamnair4090]

Same same!!

[@baileymartin9661]

He has a podcast with over 80 episodes and counting each an hour plus it’s called THE JOSH JOHNSON SHOW and I promise you won’t be disappointed it’s hilarious and you really get to know him and his friend

[@ladytaylor4299]

@@baileymartin9661 I mean no offense but I could kiss you right now! 😘💃 thank you ❤️ *happy dance activated* 😂

[@simonebelgrave4040]

His voice is like butter

[@nickeyg8948]

I love that Dulce helps Josh with his hair. It like black hair is a celebration of coming together with your fellow man. It's beautiful, and almost spiritual in a way.

[@gideonkahl6149]

I've always loved it when black people wear their natural hair with pride. It is beautiful. Continue to do so.

[@sammyk702]

Thanks means so much to a girl like me from a predominantly white town. Ever heard of Terre Haute Indiana?

[@keletiguiouattara5944]

I always like it when yt people mind their own yt business and leave our hair business alone. Nobody cares what you like or don’t like. Like, I like dogs too…

[@submissiveproviderstboth9485]

@@keletiguiouattara5944 you sound bitter and crazy🤡

[@theuser314]

@@sammyk702 oh wow my fiancée lived there for years! Moved away a few years back. She always mentioned how white it was and got a lot of questions about her hair

[@staceypakosta8186]

@@sammyk702 unfortunately I have be safe young lady

[@cocofrog1976]

Thanks for enlightening this white girl! I had no idea how deeply threaded this subject is and I walk away with a new perspective and appreciation for black culture 🙏🏼. Blessings, all

[@mancube7645]

Kind question: after this enlightenment. Do you understand why most of us where very angry that Chris Rock "a black man" clowning a "black woman" about hair. Yet it's a touchy subject for our culture. (then Will made it about himself blah blah blah)

[@helloagain6243]

@@mancube7645 no such thing as black people, stop looking for attention.

[@atienootieno1384]

@@samiraa3671 As a Kenyan East African, I know too many cases of young Kenyans getting killed for having dreadlocks because they come from poor neighborhoods, some people are even tortured to death because they wouldn't shave their dreads. One of the biggest industries in my country sells hair extensions and I still have to explain to people why I chose to go natural. So no, East Africa hasn't figured out the hair thing either. And it's so bad that people are losing employment opportunities and even dying from it.

[@LEvans-vg7sp]

@@mancube7645 I’m sure she doesn’t get it just like I don’t get it even as a black woman WITH alopecia. People who have serious alopecia would love to sit there with an evenly cut bald head. Any type of even style when you have alopecia is a challenge. Plus she cut her hair bald before for style purposes. They basically exaggerated her condition to explain why Will came out of character.

[@mancube7645]

@@LEvans-vg7sp girl, just yesterday Katt Williams said something about this. Here is the link, I enjoy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJSvgIGHptKKlZo

[@elkee3029]

Mr. Roy Wood Jr., Ms. Dulce' Sloan, Ms. Chelsea Williamson, and Mr. Josh Johnson, thank you all for the important insight on the appropriating of Black hairstyles. Enjoyed hearing your personal hair journey stories. Hope to see this panel and again in the future sharing their knowledge on Black culture, herstory and history.

[@jaymesigler6402]

As a kid, my white mom relaxed my hair and since high school, I flat ironed it all the time and rarely wore it curly. In the summer of 2020, I did the big chop and I've been natural ever since. I've only straightened it once since then, just to see how it would look.

[@chezmoi42]

Your profile pic curls are so pretty.

[@nicholnunn8074]

I had one relaxer and it fried my hair off. But I flat ironed my hair until college. This was 20 years ago so there weren't as many products and tutorials available. It took me a lot of years to figure out my curls and after I finally got it, my hair texture started changing 😆. It is nice to see younger women embracing their natural hair. Your curls are beautiful!

[@darkmarc]

My white mom cut my hair when I was young too, then learned how to relax it when I asked for that, but she passed that job off to me or a hairstylist as soon as possible, because it made her nervous to have caustic chemicals on her child's head and be directly responsible for what happens (rather than indirectly, I Guess).

[@jaymesigler6402]

I only relaxed it because you wanted me to. Before that, I braided it. I did box braids, and I learned how to cornrow.

[@jaymesigler6402]

I also tried to get you to cut your fried hair and start over keeping it natural. You refused.

[@Liminal_Galaxie]

One more lil thing I want to add.... Those straight hair wigs often come from extremely poor women here in southeast Asia who are offered as little as $10-15 dollars for cutting their hair off to make wigs, which then sell for hundreds in the West. There are major ethical issues with using natural human hair and I wish there was more awareness around this problem. Thanks for reading this if you have, hope u enjoyed my 2 cents!

[@rachelraye285]

1-I felt like I was sitting with my people sharing my hair journey🧖🏿‍♀️ 2-This Conversation needs to continue!!

[@Tam75Tam]

How ridiculous is it that choosing to keep our hair as it grows out of our scalp is a personal revolution? So sad but necessary.

[@SoniaBDorsey]

Been rocking and LOVING my natural locks for over half of my life….some 24 years!!!! When I worked in finance as a Financial Aid Director of a technical college in my mid to late 20s, I decided to rock beautiful Bantu knots. It was awesome! Imagine that for a moment. Every person and sometimes with their parents had to visit my office to pay tuition. The bold representation in my office exclaimed: roots, remembrance, and honor. My boss, a lovely Nigerian woman was shocked at my boldness to do this in the corporate world. At the time, it wasn’t widely accepted in the south. My students, who were widely diverse, were amazed and asked inquisitive questions because black women were not choosing culturally inclined styles as these. Extensions and relaxing the hair was what was customary. In retrospect, I loved those awakenings. It was a beautiful moment on our campus because it spoke to inclusivity, creativity, uniqueness, and most importantly, acceptance and love of self. Transitioning to all natural was the need to see all of me. It was a need. I recall asking my mom why she relaxed our hair…her exact words were: “I didn’t know how to care for you and your sister’s hair.” I can understand how lack of information , how being uneducated on how to do something can lead to poor: hair care, health care, personal finance, and many other areas where we, people of color, are grossly taken advantaged of or misguided in. A great YT channel that educates on black hair care is Green Beauty Channel. She is thorough and educates scientifically the topic of hair care. Thank you for talking about this. Thank you.

[@ALinn-vr3nl]

Sounds like you were a liberating role model for a lot of young people. Bravo.

[@yoha5298]

Going natural was not easy for me. I tried several times but went back to relaxing or just straightening constantly. And as soon as I find products that work then they are either discontinued or just stop working. Being natural is definitely more expensive and time consuming but I love it.

[@angrycannibal6625]

Isn’t it cheaper because there are no more perms and blowouts. The health benefits are amazing. Perms are the reason so many black women have fibroids that lead to hysterectomies and breast cancer.

[@yoha5298]

@@angrycannibal6625 I have been natural for several years now and it is more expensive than relaxing and blowouts. Of course I was relaxing and blowing out my own hair. I now spend probably 5 times more money and time on my hair than when I was relaxed. My nain reason for going natural is the fact that the older women in my family were experiencing hair thinning hairless loss. I still straighten it a few times a year at home and go to the salon for trimming.

[@anndeecosita3586]

@@yoha5298 Relaxed hair was more expensive for me because I went to salons. I don’t go to salons as a natural.

[@GLesbihonest]

Great show! A much needed show. I've been fully natural for over 20 years. The struggle was real being in the military. Only about 4 years ago they finally allowed different types of locs. Only our hair had detailed strict restrictions.

[@hopehall9494]

I love these Beyond the Scenes segments with Roy Woods Jr. He’s smart, entertaining, and talks about topics that need and deserve more coverage. This series live up to his goal of going deeper into topics that are covered briefly on the Daily Show. His guest panels are always thought-provoking and I enjoy learning more about the topics they cover. I have a follow-up question for this episode- are French braids on a white woman considered cultural appropriation? Thanks to anyone who takes the time to respond 😁

[@ivanafloyde2948]

Yes it is because if all humans come from Africa so did all hair forms and unfortunately Europeans they try to claim hair braiding as theirs because their hair is straight but that literally means nothing. Our genes show their is no need for tribalism because we are one tribe human so no matter who created it probably came from African ancestors who migrated into a area from some part of Africa no matter the hair texture because many groups out of Africa have straight hair so it could have been many tribes that have the actually title for creating braids.

[@workingdee]

No, its not appropriation. French is in the name. Many cultures braid their hair.

[@kingforaday8725]

@@ivanafloyde2948 So would black folk straitening their hair or coloring it blonde be considered appropriation of white culture? Also, when black folk color their nails would that be considered appropriation of Chinese culture?

[@tsmc1130]

My thought is, the important component of appropriation is not using something you did not originate. Rather, it is the exploitative nature of one group getting credit (and sometimes financial gain) for something the group who originated would be unrecognized or possibly demeaned for. It is the gut-punch of Bo Derek being lauded for cornrows, while a Black woman is losing a court case to have the right to wear them to work. It's why the CROWN Act was actually necessary today. I see how it's easy to be dismissive without historical context and lacking empathy when it's not happening to your cultural group. If I straighten my hair it's assimilation but it's not appropriation-I'm not coming up on something that has been (and continues to be) used to hold the group who created it back.

[@candicelong6261]

As a white woman this has been so informative. Thank you so much for enlightening us. Ladies, go natural. You are all beautiful.

[@chosenmjroyalty4917]

Candice, easy for you to say since you will NEVER be refused a promotion or seat at table due to natural hair. This is one reason you see the Rise of Black Female Entrepreneurs. If they are their own boss, no one can tell them how to fix hair. BTW, no passed law will stop this bias since no one will ever say you cannot sit at this table because of your hair. They will bring up some BS excuse like degree or certificate etc while hiring someone with less degree, experience KBJ (Ketanji). Thanks for encouragement Candice, but trust this is something you will ever experience.

[@isaacharris9542]

@A P you watch the daily show and your mad about people mentioning their race to give context to the rest of their comment?

[@EsmereldaPea]

As a White woman (and yes, in this context I feel it's necessary to announce my race), I also appreciate these kinds of videos. It helps me contextualize the history and culture of Black hair. (Dulce just said "for so long we weren't allowed to keep our hair as it grew out of our head.") Despite having had close Black friends in my circle since high school, I never understood the labor that went into the care of Black hair until the last few years. One of my friends asked me to help twist her hair a couple of years ago and I completely failed. I'm grateful that with the right haircut, I can shower, towel dry my hair, and be done. So I give props to anyone of any race and hair texture who has to spend more time. And I also appreciate the folks like the person above who schooled the OP. I'll be okay if someone comes for me here as it's how I grow and learn what is okay and what is not okay to say.

[@candicelong6261]

I never meant any harm. You are right, I will never experience this. But, if you’ll have me in your corner, I will try hard to help change the minds of others. And, being more informed and aware of situations such as this, will help me to do that.

[@graphiteandglitter]

@@EsmereldaPea as a black woman (albeit from a black-majority African country, not the US), I can assure you that everything you said is OK and just fine 💙💜

[@sharongillesp]

Forced to wear our hair like another race is comparable to being forced to speaking another language and penalize and punished if you dared to speak your own native language during enslavement.

[@sylvianyotieno3507]

I’m from Kenya and we were actually punished in elementary and high school for speaking our native languages. Only Swahili and English were allowed in school. French and Germany were acceptable because they were supplemental subjects. Funny now they are trying to incorporate native languages into the syllabus because only a fraction of Kenyans know how to speak their mother tongue.

[@renia1437]

@@sylvianyotieno3507 Interesting… I always thought Swahili was the native language in Kenya and other East African countries. I had no idea it was basically forced on parts of the population. Tbh that explains why such a large chunk of the population in those countries speaks Swahili. Thanks for sharing Sylvia!

[@cnj67]

Yes - and somehow worse, in a way, because european hair will not suddenly start being natural to black people ever.

[@cnj67]

@@sylvianyotieno3507 I have heard about things like that. It happens in a lot of colonized countries, and it is terrible. It happened in Ireland, very succesfully crushing Irish Celtic as a language (very few speak it now), and the Swedes did it to the Danes in what is now Sweden ... They fired priests for speaking Danish. And made widows marry Swedes. Killing, torturing, beating or just preventing from getting a job - if you speak your own language.

[@dreamlife2351]

I’m Hawaiian and we were punished for speaking our native language. For our 30 years it was taboo

[@juwansatchell8555]

Josh Johnson is one of my favorite comedians 💯🔥had no idea he was a writer for The Daily Show

[@baileymartin9661]

Do you know about his podcast??? It’s amazing and hilarious called The Josh Johnson Show it’s on multiple streaming apps and sites!!

[@juwansatchell8555]

@@baileymartin9661 now I do and now I following it!😂 Thanks a bunch!

[@wonpilspiano]

Right!! I’m so proud of him like he were my own child.

[@tiffanyanderson9437]

There’s a documentary I watched in the 90’s called “400 Years Without A Comb”. Changed my life.

[@kayonnewebley7123]

That sounds fascinating. I need to check it out.

[@shadr1666]

It wouldn’t be the same without Dulce. Love her ❤️🖤💚

[@SurrealSurrender]

Right? Where has she been tho? She has been MIA on the Daily Show for a second. MORE DULCE!!!!!!!

[@s00prtek]

A couple of decades ago or so I worked for a medical section in a popular big box store. I had been wearing box braids for a time and it was time to let my hair rest. I came to work the day after removing my braids and lovingly processing my hair. I decided to let it breathe by wearing it in a well- moisturized, perfectly elliptical afro. As I enter my work area and begin donning my lab coat I realize all eyes are on me and my supervisor is cautiously approaching me with her brow furrowed. She stops before getting "too" close and asks, "What happened? Are you trying to make a statement?" I simply said, "This is how my hair grows from my head" and began to work. For the rest of the day I witnessed whispered conversations at the edge of my peripheral vision and long, group staring sessions. All of this continued until I layed my hair down in another protective hairstyle at which time everything seemed to go back to business as usual.

[@lunaholiday8585]

Sheesh.

[@innerbeau90]

"For so long, we weren't allowed to wear the hair that grows out of our head. We lost connections to how to take care of our hair." this hits me hard. Just here to send positive vibe and say you and your hair are beautiful

[@mutumbishamutakwa270]

As a dude especially in my country keeping my hair long and natural has been really challenging, and most people were against it when I started. It's been 4 years now and it's grown really long and I don't regret it one bit

[@roniwhite1988]

I still prefer the beauty supply shop over the box stores; and love that I have found Black owned ones in my area.

[@talent_can5770]

I have an Afro and an Asian lady gave me a head massage the other day. The way she was touching my head had me laughing. You know when you can sense the pauses now and then, felt like she was analysing the texture of my hair. Hilarious 😂

[@theladeedalife4033]

The weekends locs rooted in Rasta's hair BOBO Shanti locs. Very spiritual-based. May look crazy to you but not to others. Don't be like the older black woman, sis. It's part of our culture that's very old, even if he is a lego loc.

[@Yasminescookingshow]

got my snack and I'm ready. This conversation about our hair is like comfort food to me. Thanks you guys!!

[@Cancun771]

16:15 She is just spitting out these roasts like a machine gun. You need to make an entire show where Dulce just gets one hairstyle picture after the other for a few seconds each, and just brainstorms roasting associations. I could watch that on end.

[@lexohantas7638]

I know! I love listening to her, she is so smart! Went to the same college as me! ❤️

[@LindaMitchell]

I enjoyed this conversation. I went natural 20 years ago before KZbin. In the process, I made a lot of mistakes learning how to take care of my hair. Now, I have a pretty solid routine but I'm still learning stuff all the time about what works for my hair.

[@bluesvertigo3961]

In defining “natural hair”, I believe that hot comb usage is a grey area. Some people press infrequently, yet there are those who press so often that “natural” seems like it would/should be an inaccurate adjective.

[@bluesvertigo3961]

And I’m not convinced that daily hot combing won’t have similar long term implications as chemical relaxing.

[@suspirodelmoro1430]

“Natural“ means that you are not using chemicals to break the protein bonds of your hair. Heat styling doesn’t break bonds; it may damage in other ways, but that’s not how it works.

[@user-ts4ox4gx9g]

My mom always taught me and my sibblings to care for and love our hair. She's my hairstylist till this day.

[@msjkramey]

Lol the guy's story about his friend not recognizing him reminds me of the time when my friend hit on me thinking I was someone else just cuz I straightened my hair for once and had no idea who I was. Like my face didn't change, I knew our inside jokes, Etc like how did he not know what to me?

[@alexiswelsh5821]

Does he have face blindness?

[@elliot-sowdon]

I remember being interested in Black hair at about the age of 7, and that being kind of weird because I’m extremely white. My Mama told me that it was okay to notice that my friends had pretty hair, and it was also okay that my hair was different. She told me that I was pretty in my own ways, and let me have three French braids in my hair so I could have braids without crossing the line into appropriation. I feel like white celebrities who clearly cross that line, need a Mama to tell them that they’re valid, but that their style choices are questionable.

[@jibarabicha4853]

My daughter also admires her friend’s hair and she loves the boxed braids with the gold little hair pieces. It truly is beautiful to see all of the varieties of styles now that natural and Afrocentric hairstyles are being embraced.

[@caffeinateddecisions6923]

"without crossing the line into appropriation" appropriation doesnt exist

[@lindag4544]

@@caffeinateddecisions6923 once “appropriation =admiration. sad a white person cannot wear gorgeous African prints without feeling like they are appropriating...., same with braids...sad.

[@GadgetMsGadget]

@Elliot Your mom was clearly ahead of her time. Respect.

[@realalchemist7206]

I hear you but as an African, I believe it's okay to wear your hair with braids. It's important for you to understand the difference between 'cultural appropriation' and 'cultural appreciation'. When there's an attempt of erasure of a people's culture, claiming it as a novel invention while generally denigrating there way of life then that characterizes the former. When there's an acknowledgement of its origins and a sincere admiration of a different/foreign culture then that is the latter and it's laudable. Yours would be cultural appreciation and you should definitely braid your hair all the way if you so wish:).

[@aswee01]

It's interesting Dulce mentioned it's important to look at what we say to each other when she just insulted the Weekend and people who actually allow their hair to lock like that. Those are natural forming locks where as what we mostly see are styled or manufactured in a sense. I agree we have to support each other in our decisions to be natural, all forms of natural and not judge unless we know and at that point suggest what is healthy

[@helloagain6243]

Maybe in a utopia everyone of the same skintone can agree on everything.

[@ellenflanagan8582]

If anyone wants to find out more about this I recommend Don’t Touch My Hair by Emma Dabiri. It gave me a great education about the subject.

[@skylightbright22]

love this convo. Dulcé is so sweet for helping Josh with his hair & maybe she could have offered to grease Roy's scalp or something since he started complaining

[@anndeecosita3586]

😂

[@ysmbklyn]

😂😂😂

[@lamenia]

Dulce has a point on self policing. I have to be mindful of how I wear my hair when I'm traveling to minimize negative interactions. I know which hairstyles are more likely to lead to being pulled over.

[@ALinn-vr3nl]

That is both shocking and heartbreaking to hear. Bad enough to hear people saying here it will cost them jobs or result in mistreatment in school and elsewhere, but pulled over? D***. I don't think I notice black people's hair that much. But then, maybe I do. I think I gravitate toward people with natural styles because I'm more naturally oriented, and their style feels easier to relate to, so I guess I do gravitate toward certain styles. But I'm on the west coast, so that's probably a factor.

[@cinnamonstar808]

@@ALinn-vr3nl this is why black people low-key LOVE THE PANDEMIC. we got a mental break from all of that. shop online ; nobody bother you in the store no toxic coworkers; who pocket watch all your new purchase car, designer bag, new clothes. .. because they are going to find a reason to go to HR about you. if they cant find your money source. ............ if you deep dive THE GREAT RESIGNATION i bet you is mostly Black workers. because there is record amount of business license registered by black perople in the last 2 years. and they children all wanted to remain home ..not to go back into he schools. I dont care what anyone say 👉🏼👉🏽 👉🏾 this is a marriage that ONLY benefits one group. WE ARE NOT GETTING NOTHING OUT OF THIS MARRIAGE yet we cant divorce or be granted divorce.

[@jonathanliu5205]

Awesome segment - insightful, funny, entertaining. Thank you Daily Show for posting this extra baby content and would love more like it. It's fantastic to be exposed to the additional dimensions to Dulce, Josh, Chelsea and Roy, all of whom I know in one context, but really appreciate this new dimension and depth that we don't get to see as much of. Love to you all from an American living in Hong Kong; keep up the great work.

[@dianet1659]

I discovered how weak my hair was when I cut a strand in half with my fingernail. My health conscious stylist helped me transition in the early 90's. I never went back to relaxers.

[@lamenia]

I wore braids throughout middle school. In high school, I needed a relaxer every month and a press every two weeks. I decided cut my hair in the mid-2000s and I gradually went shorter and shorter and blonder and blonder. I eventually stopped relaxing due to the length of my hair. I went for a ceaser cut fade for a while and gradually let my hair grow out. I'm still natural, but people don't always know when they meet me because I sometimes wear wigs, clip-ins, and sew-ins that cover my natural hair.

[@EtakehOh]

There needs to be a "Beyond the Scenes: Tangents" podcast so you can go down all of those side stories.

[@lynnebucher6537]

I could listen to Josh Johnson's voice all day. It's perfect!

[@kayemendi4501]

Right?! I love his voice!!

[@Enbionic_Titan]

My brother had a MAD widow's peak lol they used to call him McDracula in school 🤣😭🤣😭

[@DarlaKeller]

Gosh! Thanks so much for an insight into this issue. Had I only know when I was raising my biracial daughter back in the 80s and 90s. And, why she takes so much time caring for her daughters' hair. I was so ignorant.

[@nicholnunn8074]

I asked in a separate comment thread if black moms struggled as much as white mom's when dealing with biracial kid's hair and it sounds like it is a struggle from all sides. Dulce even mentioned her and her mom having different hair. At least we all have funny hair pics to look back on and smile at ☺

[@Acharmedlife]

This white baby boomer appreciates the education. It seems that before my black women friends get to know me better they don’t like it when I comment that I love their hair. I understand why they are are sensitive to it.

[@nfullenwider]

I'm the black guy who hasn't quite figured his afro out yet, and I'm with Dulce on keeping hair products separate. I'm just figuring this thing out, and I'm already confused enough in the aisle.

[@jamedraa8472]

It all depends on how you want your hair to hang.... or stand. Moisture is the key to Black hair health. Try "Cream of Nature" shampoo/conditioner. You may have to go to a beauty supply to get it.

[@nfullenwider]

@@jamedraa8472 Thanks for the tip!

[@aldriangrose8756]

Josh Johnson is literally the new next best comedian that man is funny AF even when he's trying to be serious

[@leoseling4413]

Finally someone else is saying it, too! He's been my favourite for a while.

[@aldriangrose8756]

I already do all the less privileged kids in my area that don't have a father I guide them on the right path and if they don't have food I feed them if they don't have clothes I give it to them if they don't have anywhere to stay I'd give him a place to stay I do my part in my local area to the point where I don't even celebrate Thanksgiving with my family anymore we celebrate it with the community that doesn't have anyone to celebrate holidays with

[@aldriangrose8756]

@@leoseling4413 I know hands down he's one of my top five favorite comedians of all time

[@hao9508]

facts

[@SaBoTeUr2001]

I'm with Dulce about the "ethnic hair care" aisle. Makes finding stuff easier, less likely to buy something totally inappropriate for your hair.

[@MrTaylormadetech]

This topic is near to my heart ❤️… I’m a mixed man from Barbados 🇧🇧. my mom is white and my dad is black im an exact middle … My hair grows in an Afro and when I was in school 14 years old I once dyed it blonde 👱 for the crop over festival (and Dragonball Z was my favorite anime). When I came back to school I was told I had to shave all my hair off because it was not a “natural color” … I was annoyed because the principals hair was Blue … I dyed it a dark brown and they still suspended me cuz it’s “distracting” … I never cut my hair again to this day and I’m 37 now

[@rosalynbeatty8310]

That's so unfair! White people in authority positions cobtrolling our hair.

[@magicalmanifesting888]

Love you guys and made my mixed child watch this. She had dreads from 1st grade to 9th and then decided to grow them out and cut them off. Been joyneying to learn how to take care of her hair herself. Because I'd learned and took care of her hair (twisting and gelling and extra conditioning etc) all her life. Its a great segment. Thank you!!

[@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460]

I love y'all so much!! *Beyond the Scenes* is a crucial program and I'm thankful you all keep doing it. Always love you, Brothah Roy Wood Jr.!! And I was literally complaining 3 days ago that we don't see Dulcé Sloan enough so thanks for having her here again! 🤗

[@skaldi1979]

I was told the over vs under was "French braid" vs "dutch braid"...I had no idea it was the same as a "corn row". I always do the "corn row" version b/c my hair is too fine to stay in a French braid. 😮

[@Julia-lk8jn]

Sounds familiar. And the concept of "you're allowed to a French braid but *you terrible person* if you do it inside-out" ... yep, that kind of sums up the idea that a given hair style belongs to only one culture. Meanwhile: the hair-dos in the movie Baps ? Heavily influenced by Marie Antoinette and her ilk. Cultural Appropriation alert!

[@marketingmanagement690]

trevor noah youre the best genuine employees, i appreciate you work your craft, im not black but appriciate the topis you bring out!

[@marymaker6038]

Thank you all for the show, it’s a journey that needs to be talked about

[@kellycardinal9609]

Man, I feel like this just scraped the top of this issue. I always want to learn so much more after watching these episodes.

[@lizjohnson1276]

As a white 3b, I had no idea until my and my mom's hair brush was pulled and rebranded as Cantu that I found any of this stuff (imagine moving to northern Minnesota around 1980, my mom bought every hairbrush whenever we found them because there was nothing available there. Biggest culture shock from Brooklyn and South Jersey ever!). It works, what can I say. I used to reserve my curls for special occasions, bc they were such a pain to deal with. Cantu let's me be me. And other products.

[@jubilantsleep]

That’s awesome

[@silvialimeme3706]

I am African , and even here we are expected to relax our hair as kids and to wear wigs when we are grown. I got tired of burning may scalp with chemicals in 2015, and I cut it, I had tried it before but it was just unmanageable so I would end up relaxing it. I went for dreadlocks and I loved them. I cut them in 2018 and I have been trying to figure out what works for my hair ever since, it is a real struggle and there are easy styles for my hair that were initially frowned upon at work, by boyfriends, however, everybody got used to it and even the people that used to say that the way I style my hair wasn't professional or feminine, in the rare times that I wear a wig (when my hair is messed up), they say I look weird with 😂. I vowed to never relax my hair again and I really like having short hair. When I was a kid, before hair relaxers, my hair was manageable with Vaseline only, I miss those times.

[@victoriadavis8326]

I love the soft feeling of black hair.

[@anjulikamins6420]

This was so informative. Thanks to everyone for getting this info out!

[@bigdaddypapsmear]

When you all started talking about the Weekend, I immediately thought of UCLA’s point guard. Dude is out here sweating profusely with 10lbs of hair on his head.

[@consciouscrypto3090]

I never realized how lucky I was that my mom gave me an afro at age 9. I went in and out of relaxers in my teens, but by adulthood I went natural and never went back. From Grace Jones cuts, to braids, to locks, to now twistouts, I keep it natural. I learned to lock from a Jamaican man (after a year basically growing an afro while trying to lock it myself) and then learned how to do twistouts on 'KZbin University' LOL. So grateful to see the CROWN act become law, even though I already retired from a successful business career with natural hair. (Pre-video era for the internet made it possible.) Those who need to be hired by others have faced so much discrimination for simply choosing to not imitate another race in their hair choices. Hopefully no more.

[@a.taylor8294]

THANK YOU for acknowledging people who don't keep they locks right! People, if you're gonna commit to locking your hair, also commit to taking proper care of them.

[@EANDM71]

Can someone tell me why black men don’t believe they have the same texture of hair as black women? Why do we treat this issue as if wearing our natural beauty only affects black women, as if black men don’t have the same hair. Some of them weaponize our hair against us to other races: I can an Asian woman tell me to my face that black women are “jealous of her” because black men love her hair. And I’m thinking: he has the same freakin’ hair texture as I do. Essentially he’s saying that he hates his hair! It is so sad. So depressing!!

[@Teddy_Graham]

My ppl. Your hair is unique. Be happy that we’re there only ones with it.

[@chiditv4617]

Funny this video is out today. About 2 hours ago I was like, man I'm done wearing my styling my 10in+ afro perfectly. Everyday. For other people. Who probably still say racist things about it 🤔

[@lorebay2593]

Hi, nice to see y’all. Nice voice Josh, handsome too. I been natural 13 years, I left my work to be a stay at home mom about 10 yrs then decided to go back to work in corporate America. I got up early, straightened my hair with a hot comb but by the time I got ready my hair had reverted back, so I washed it out twist styled it and went to the interview. The interviewer was interested in what was in my head not on it and my boss is glad he chose me 12 yrs ago.

[@Aniexo_]

I’ve been natural for 5 yrs I’ve worn a weave once in 2015 for prom and I lost all my hair. I’ve never had a weave after that. I stopped getting braids to now I wear my hair in twist and I love ittttt I love being natural 🥰

[@thefirstKenpachi]

Y'all need to come for a vacation in the motherland. Detoxify, America is too crazy.

[@myersta]

Facts, vacation outside the US as often as possible.

[@Gigilovehugs]

I just looked up a plane ticket it was over 4K some people don’t have an extra 4K for a plane trip.

[@Tonia682]

That’s my plan!!

[@Kelo7]

You can't fake chemistry, Dulce and Josh are actually friends

[@TheVelvetLoungeLife]

OooooooooooooOoh, oh, Ms .Sloan, the fact that you said getting to set (movie or TV) and not having a black person on set that can do your hair... OoOoOoO, (😡 angry me) I agree. I am an actress and only when I was on Club MTV, The Cosby Show and a movie The Narrow Way was there anyone on set that could do black hair. I have done dozens of projects since and every single time I go to the hair station they tell me I'm all set - which means you're not going to touch my hair. I just completed a Hallmark Movie The Ghost of Christmas Always (don't laugh too hard, I got paid pretty well) last month whereas I went to the hair and makeup set stations and the hair lady said "you're all set she barely looked up sideways to see if I was truly all set". Every set should be required if they have black actors or actresses on it to have people on set they can do black hair and black makeup but what would happen is a probably would not hire us if that was the case. So I go with what I call my black war chest. It has my hair stuff the appropriate colored black makeup and some extra quality lotion in it.

[@pockydreamer]

I have been natural for 5 years and my grandmother (rest in peace) would constantly gripe about how I had long beautiful hair and to not cut it. Thankfully she died before I did the big chop or else I would have never heard the end of it

[@GadgetMsGadget]

I can relate, @pockydreamer! I've been natural for decades now, and it had long been my mother's dream -- probably still is🙄 -- that I return to having relaxed hair and "put it into a style." She would also love it if I would dye my graying hair. Nope. Mom simply had to just deal with my reality.

[@pockydreamer]

@@GadgetMsGadget same here, my parents constantly tell me that I have a "bad grade of hair" even though I actually put effort into taking care of it

[@incognitonegress3453]

@@pockydreamer id this is true u need 2 divorce them. If this is true then u dont even realize how unconsciously they hav harmed u. I'm so sorry 4 that, baby! 😪🙏🏽

[@yolam2831]

Girls in sports and dance have always braided their hair, of all races and cultures, for utilitarian purposes. All of the girls in my dance classes growing up, black, white, Asian and LatinX, braided their hair in cornrows and/or french braids. I as a black girl never thought it was cultural appropriation. I have an issue with folks renaming our hairstyles and calling them a trend like they're new when we've been doing it for thousands of years.

[@elliot-sowdon]

This is probably a dumb question, but do you know if girls with straight hair had it get all weird and greasy after putting cornrows in? I’m white, I have oily hair, and I’ve always imagined that wearing the same hairstyle for days without combing and shampooing would leave me dripping grease everywhere.

[@kb1073]

I agree. It's not the wearing them that was the issue for me. It is the acting like it is new

[@yolam2831]

@@elliot-sowdon The girls in my class only wore them during class and washed their hair daily.

[@elliot-sowdon]

@@yolam2831 That makes sense, How many braids were they wearing at a time? I feel like part of the distinction between “black” braids and “white” braids is how small the braids are. My mom let me wear my hair in three braids once or twice when I was little and jealous of my friend’s cornrows, because she didn’t want to be appropriative, + it’s a lot of work to put in tiny braids. I could be off, but I think the key difference between cultural appreciation and appropriation is about understanding what the thing you want to try means to the culture it’s from, and being respectful about that instead of acting like you invented it. The number thing is very arbitrary, but I think straight hair slips out of braids more easy and can be more easily separated and gathered to be braided by the fistful. So finer the braids are, the more likely they are to be directly borrowing from black styles.

[@evaarizona1184]

I had braids, perms and yes, a Jerry curl growing up. I decided to go natural in 1994 because I was tired of my scalp burning when I got it permed. I kept my hair straightened as I let the perm grow out. My mom was cool until she saw me without my hair straightened. My (maternal) aunts lost their minds. One tried to pay me to get a perm. I never permed my daughters' hair and my son had locs until that hereditary male baldness kicked in. Today, most of my (maternal) aunts wear their hair naturally. I would like to think that if my mom were still here, she would be rocking a tiny fro too.

[@MK-hh1vo]

My biggest take away, Josh Johnson needs to be a *speaker* not a writer!!! This was so therapeutic! As a BW entering the corporate world in the 80s I got my hair braided to reclaim my culture from the movie 10! I was lucky, the corporate world *loved* my braids! Mother and aunts loved them too. But in the 2000s when I decided to remove the extensions and "go natural" their big question was "What are you going to do with your hair???" When I said "nothing" the horror and panic they expressed was hilarious! Oddly enough, Asian and white people admired it, Black and Latino people, not so much. 2023 will make 20 years natural for me. The most liberating thing I've ever done!

[@f.u.noseyassstalker7147]

Im out here in Portland Oregon and there are a lot of white parents with these mixed kids and they don't do these kids hair. I'm thinking 🤔 to myself such a shame. What did you expect to have a child like that, you had 9 mos. Of pregnancy to get it TOGETHER. Try again!! What is the excuse for having these kids looking like wild BANCHEES!!

[@dorandacolbert5973]

I've worn my hair natural since 1977. My mother didn't like straightening but did wish I would 'comb my hair. I even attempted dreds, but they took too much dedication for me.

[@semievilsquirrel]

I feel like a (really grateful and humbled) fly on the wall. I have a couple of black girl friends and I have never asked about their hair, because I don't want to be "that" white girl. Thank you for enlightening us.

[@ninadevoe5102]

FYI: Black women wore braids long before Bo Derick!

[@mosellafelder2171]

Yes, from Africa to America over 400 years ago.

[@elliot-sowdon]

I was today years old when I learned that a Dutch braid/invented French braid is the same as a cornrow. I for real grew up in America and would have called the style those UFC girls were wearing “double-dutch braids”

[@Julia-lk8jn]

Yes, I think the whole "hair style = cultural appropriation" kerfuffle right now depends heavily on ignoring that sometimes more than one culture has the same idea.

[@Nbk0224]

Thank you for this segment. Last perm 11/2009 and Big Chopped 4/2010. Still learning my hair and realized my hair likes to be free without a whole lot of manipulation. Wash and go has taken me back to the freedom of when I first big chopped. It has been a journey learning to love and embrace my beautiful tightly coiled fine hair being out. Let people be free to wear their hair how they choose fit.

[@Cooking4me_928]

Am here for this conversation naturally, it's freedom.

[@JazFae90]

I'm sorry, I'm with you Dolcé! Keep us separate but equal 👌🏾 I'm not trying to dig for my hair care products

[@chadrainternational7777]

Loved this segment, I'm fully natural, so is my wife and kids!

[@roxyndra]

Omgosh that is so genius to mix in a little processed chemical stuff with the natural stuff for storage! Thank you, Dulce~!

[@aazhie]

Dulce has the best laugh, also Josh is delightfully stoic as she busts up XDD

[@battlescorn]

This was far more interesting discussion than I thought it was gonna be. And yes, I remember the coconut oil faze. In fact, I think I have coconut oil from that time that I need to throw away at my parents' house. 😄

[@kathivy]

When I was in the military back in the early 1990s women straightened their hair and men had close cuts with fades. I didn’t even think about how natural hair might not have been allowed. I got in trouble for being a white woman with my hair sheared short with clippers because it was considered “fadish,” which was against regulations. I thought I knew a few things about hair, but after watching this I realize that I don’t know much.

[@Gigilovehugs]

Thanks for making this show I am a black woman that has been natural for several years

[@_anneli_]

I'm a German mixed race girl and and this helped me so, so much. My mum is white and never knew how to deal with my hair and still so often I don't know either.

[@gigglesmurf2004]

I have mixed hair and relaxers never worked better then heat straightening for me so I stopped at 17. Deva Curl is the best for my hair. I've been using it for 15 years, since the only place I could get it was Ricky's in NYC. Roxanne, a woman who knew more about all types of hair than anyone I've ever met introduced me to it. She could do white hair, mixed hair, cats and dogs. My hair is as different from my white mother's as it is from my Zimbabwean bff's. Most frustrating is the back of my head is a tighter curl than the front.

[@fym90]

This was wholesome, informative and funny. Great episode!

[@duracellbunny1234]

i need a Dulcé Sloan in my life, i cant be googling stuff to get my hair under control

[@Tree_Village]

I'm not black, but as an Asian man with very very frizzy & curly hair, I really appreciate this episode. I work in a predominantly white workplace and I definitely feel a lot of what their saying about "professionalism" and "messy" attitudes.

[@jamieh9100]

Roy Woods’s question @19:45-DEEP! Who was my natural hair Yoda? I was. 🙄 My hair has been natural for at least six years, but I never could figure out how to wear it. I always did a roller set with magnetic rollers and called it a day. Then, the PANDEMIC hit. I used that year+ of lockdown to LEARN HOW TO WEAR MY NATURAL HAIR!!! 🤲🧎‍♀️📿 It look every single minute of that year to figure out the products, techniques, and maintenance habits that work for my natural hair. It was an identity journey, for me, as well, because I have a little more European ancestry than most of my brothers and sisters in blackness, so I’ve always been marginalized and challenged, re my blackness (I recognize and check my privilege). But my point is that the struggle and journey with our hair is unifying. I love my blackness and I love black hair. And I feel proud to wear my hair unapologetically with my business suit and look like a freaking 10 all day long. When I get married, it’s natural hair on my wedding day. ❤️

[@chikailokalemba2792]

This was my favourite discussion because I love natural hair

[@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds]

Dulce got the porosity backwards; low porosity hair takes longer to get wet AND dry; high porosity gains AND loses moisture quickly.

[@kristintravis6152]

Exactly! As others pointed out this conversation so desperately needed a hair care expert. Dulce was also incorrect about her description of the difference between cornrows and french braids. And her take on The Weeknd was pure hypocrisy since she *just* got done saying that we are too limiting of ourselves.

[@pkaseven]

I did NOT know that was the difference between french braids and cornrows. Thanks Dulce!

[@rcreative1]

I've known hundreds of black women, and it has never occurred to me to ask to touch it. The folks who bother black women are weirdos. I wish they didn't do their weird thing. When I have encountered a black person who has done a lot of work of his or her hair, I have sometimes said, "Nice hair." What would be the purpose of touching it? I just don't get it.