We Put NBA Centers In A Tier List

[@LePookieMajesticGloriousBonBon]

nah don and isaac beefing about ad being in s tier was so funny😭

[@Irishboy-cj4zn]

Donovan's rant was soooo good. I love it!

[@zeboworthen3332]

You are my sunshine..

[@chernandez212331]

AD should be in a whole another tier between A and S. He’s clearly better than Chet and Wemby but he’s not in the same tier as Jokic or Embiid

[@ShaazamR]

They made the mistake of putting two rookies in A early. AD should have been A and they should have shifted down to B. The tier list doesn't have to start at C and up lol

[@AllanMurmann]

Just make the list with + AND - , thats simple, AD is a A+, Chet and Wemby right now are A- and Bam is A. same with Sabonis is B+ or A- comparing to the rest of B.

[@goosnavslakovic4908]

My thoughts exactly

[@oliverhelden]

​@@AllanMurmannmaybe s-

[@alexmietus6864]

LMFAO yeah you can't put an ad in with rookies. 😂😂

[@clumpofcats]

this gotta be top 2 Donnovan rant, only behind the Wilt rant ofc

[@tylersilver3957]

SABONIS IS AVERAGING 20/13/8 how isn’t that A tier 😭😂

[@berdsherman7035]

Bc my boys are funny but they clearly don’t watch ball 😭😭

[@joseantoniomartincrespo4717]

This is when you see this is a joke. Without Sabonis Sacramento wouldnt be in playoffs not this year not the year that they were 3rd in the west. He is their most consistent player and he is even in MVP race

[@super.sportz.editz17]

Fr

[@alexmietus6864]

His defence isnt the greatest lol

[@joseantoniomartincrespo4717]

@@alexmietus6864 I don't see him as soft as Kevin Love in his prime.

[@astray4525]

This AD rant and discussion was an all-time moment. Don is still right though, he's not in the same tier as Embiid/Jokic. Put him in front of the A tier.

[@Journeyman2585]

He really is though

[@Axabagraphiste]

That's the limit of tier lists. You can be in the same tier than other players without having the exact same level of skill.

[@-caspo-]

Are you really gonna say AD is closer to Rudy Gobert than to Embiid and Jokic?

[@PieMaster2425]

@@-caspo- No but Rudy should be in B

[@-caspo-]

@@PieMaster2425 Ok I can agree with that. Do you think AD is closer to Chet than Embiid and Jokic? Here are some stats: Embiid: 36pts 11.4reb 5.8ast Jokic: 26.3pts 11.9reb 9ast AD: 24.9pts 12.2reb 3.8ast Chet:17.1pts 7.3reb 2.8ast It’s honestly really difficult and it feels like AD shouldn’t be in the same tier as any of these 3 players, but if I had to pick one I would say S tier.

[@jerrycarrion5358]

Sabonis is the leading rebounder and the 3rd best center in the league. He should be somewhere from A to S.

[@maherkamer8872]

Nah

[@DavidCubie1]

AD cant be in the same tier as the guy who swept him having 30 pt triple double in the series and made him look like a little kid

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

He is 100% in that tier

[@Angel-fx8by]

Tier is based on THIS season. AD absolutely deserves to be on the same tier as those guys this season especially being consistent and healthy

[@Remmyrouser]

AD beat up on Jokic in 2020 if you wanna play that game, sometimes you get outplayed it happens. That’s like saying Shaq wasn’t an S tier center in the 90s because he got fucked on by Hakeem and Rodman

[@calvinkartono]

@@Remmyrouser That was 3-4 years ago... and AD was the number 2 and not the number 1

[@woah7609]

@@calvinkartonoAd was the best player on the Lakers in the 2020 playoffs. Lebron was only better in the finals and even then that’s debatable.

[@andreavailetti874]

They're both right. It would've been fair to put AD in A tier, but only after shifting down the rest of the list. He's neither on Jokic level nor on Wemby's. Incredibly funny debate, tho

[@pvo40129]

Who else agrees on Donnavan's take on Anthony Davis?

[@a-train69420]

I feel like both sides are right. It's abundantly clear that Jokic and Embiid are miles above everyone else, so putting AD on the same tier feels wrong. At the same time, it also feels wrong to put AD, a legitimate top 10 player, on the same level as Chet and Wemby, who are great players in their own right, but are literal rookies and haven't proven all that much yet. I feel like there needs to be a tier in between S and A specifically for AD.

[@gunshi4213]

@@a-train69420 thats cause wemby and chet are B still

[@octaveg8056]

@@gunshi4213 But then everyone in b tier should be in c 😭

[@mannychavez1973]

Anthony Davis is not S-tier like Jokic and Embiid but he’s also better than all the guys in A-tier.

[@aidanfahey8745]

@@Triplxtr and then he'll drop 6 the next 5 games

[@BballPopeyejones]

Stop hating on everybody on the kings. Sabonis is top 10 in mvp voting and he is 1st in double doubles and second in triple doubles in the league

[@Mpxlt]

Sorry but hes first in triple doubles :)

[@naxedgt2053]

damn isaac can be arrogant as hell

[@Ben.snead256]

Fr

[@jsm2322]

donovan can be annoying as hell lmao

[@Remmyrouser]

Don and Isaac both are arrogant, that’s why they’re entertaining

[@mitchellsommer2321]

​@@Remmyrouserthat's what makes this special 😂

[@johnchrist07]

Porzinigs' shooting and ability to attack switches in the post has completely changed Boston's offense. In addition, his defense has been stellar. He has been a good rim protector the last two years, but he's even been better at hedging and switching in comparisson to past seasons. He's defintely in the A tier in my opinion.

[@plasmawind3302]

Anthony Davis at S tier is kinda crazy, he’s not on the same level as Embiid and Jokic, like Embiid dropped 70 last night, I’d like to see AD do that, then we’ll talk

[@Angel-fg1cg]

He’s not in the tier with Jokic and Embiid but he’s clearly above the guys in A tier.

[@jaylahenderson6295]

He’s under qualified for S and over qualified for A

[@KingAche13]

AD Career high is 60 but alright lol and a DPOY candidate every year.

[@woah7609]

I’d like to see Embiid get past the 2nd round as well. He should also be in A tier and just move everyone else down

[@pikamain9689]

Joel Embiid at S tier is kinda crazy, he's not on the same level as AD and Jokic, like AD and Jokic have got past the second round, I'd like to see Embiid do that, then we'll talk

[@dromedarycamus2]

Isaac really approaches arguments like a middle school bully trying to get a rise out of people with the "Oh he's so mad! Look at him!"

[@Joswag]

Watching this after the roast of Mo 😂 It’s Issac’s turn next

[@Slippy706]

Agreed

[@bShrimp6]

Don really has passion for this🤧

[@_xh3l9jkw4j]

the problem is AD is clearly not on the same level as Jokic and Embiid, and at the same time also far better than those in A tier. He actually belongs in his own tier, between A and S tier. Either put Jokic and Embiid on a higher tier, or create a level just for him.

[@chevtones]

Putting KAT below the rookies is next level hating. Dude has multiple 60 pt games and the only 50/40/90 player in the league.

[@doby8544]

kawhi is 53/46/89. Statistics like that can be misleading because of stuff like this.

[@chevtones]

@@doby8544 And Kawhi is debatably a top 5 player this season, too.

[@doby8544]

@@chevtones yeah nah i agree that KAT should be higher im just pointing out that using a 50/40/90 shooting split as an argument is kinda flawed

[@konorkaotic9657]

bc his 60 point game was so effective and good and for sure resulted in a win right

[@nealsidhu2697]

Don was spitting facts this episode

[@ThatranDomguY-zi5it]

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[@TJD111]

Can't be S tier of your the second option on your own team when you were bought to be the first

[@tristancole8158]

Second option under the GOAT 🤦‍♂️

[@philipchouliaras5879]

​@@tristancole8158LeBron being the GOAT doesn't mean he is the best player CURRENTLY. He is not even top 5 rn

[@Manboy5262]

Mj wasn’t once he was 35

[@tbabyyshinershit374]

Correct tiers S - jokic embiid A- AD, Sabonis , Bam, wemby B- Chet Rudy Kat sengun porzingis C- Lopez

[@Paddict227]

Chet above Sengun and Sabonis is wild.

[@FlyErmine]

Sabonis in B is a crime

[@peacemaker4829]

As soon as Wemby's team is a top 3 team in the conference he will be winning DPOY's like crazy. Bro's gonna end up with at least 3 MVP's and DPOY's

[@jordanjenkins1671]

AD has S-tier stats but gotta be on A-tier because of his team record so far. No excuses for being under .500 halfway through the season and 9th in the West.

[@siler22]

Isaac could not take a scenario where AD and Gobert are same tier

[@Jake-im8eq]

I’d do B for Wemby and Chet only bc Wemby’s shooting had been pretty bad and Chet isn’t putting up A tier numbers other than efficiency

[@peacemaker4829]

Rudy and KAT get into S tier, but only as a collaborative force. Together they have amazing offense and defense 😂

[@ThatPervyUncleAtTheBBQ]

Include Naz Reid as 6th Man!

[@LizardKiwi]

Sabonis is top 3 center in the league He has 55 straight double doubles And the most triple doubles in the league

[@Derp-14]

Bam is an underrated player. who agrees 👇🏻

[@Turdle14]

I agree dude bam is definitely underrated ❤

[@UTDDDD]

How he is a 2x all star

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

@@UTDDDDhe can still be underrated

[@Derp-14]

@@UTDDDD ikr he should be like at least a 4 time allstar

[@emilioreyes4159]

Nah, he's properly rated Dude is not explosive enough on the scoring side, he could be easily be a +25 ppg guy and somehow he's not

[@Legendarychrismusic]

The greatest hatred of all time😂

[@Dontwatch32]

Yeah put AD on A tier and push everyone down a tier💀 absolutely no way he’s on Embiid and Joker’s level at least in the past 3 years

[@CitroChannel]

Sabonis below anything but A-tier is wild. He's currently the third or fourth best center in the league. Wemby and Chet will be better than him, but Domas is a double-double every night and a walking legit potential triple-double any day of the week right now. He's the second best passing big in the league, he is one of the best players finishing around the basket in terms of FG%, and he is possibly the best rebounder in the NBA right now. The only knock against him is that he's an average defender. But he's able to be an elite scorer, playmaker, and rebounder. Plus he's consistent and durable/tough enough to stay playing even through injuries.

[@jrob8891]

This proves that the media can dictate what people think about players. Chet and Wemby have the potential to be great but nowhere NEAR the level of consistency they'd have to have to be above or at the same tier as a ton of other players

[@nikpecoNBA2k]

Domas is an A tier type of player, he’s a walking triple double.

[@wakkawakkagaming3710]

Don just gaslighting Isaac with the rankings is hysterical lmao

[@icyyy_sg3682]

This is one of the most casual videos I've ever seen. Kat and Porzingis are 1000% A tier. Especially Porzingis. Firstly he creates shots a ton and he's underrated AF defensively. He's straight up better than Chet as an overall player and Wemby isn't there yet either. Gotta remember not to just look at highlights and stats. Bam,KAT,and KP all should be same tier and they should be above Wemby and Chet.

[@metalmoto3275]

AD is an A+

[@ghaliravzanjani]

people always slept on Sabonis.

[@brocklee1009]

Jokic as of jan 27th is averaging 26 12 and 9 AD averaging 25 12 and 4 Ad also averages more blocks Jokic is epitomy of offense Joel is both Ad is epitomy of defense in a center

[@JC-tu6hc]

AD's numbers are EMPTY. All you have to do is watch a game. Not on the same level.

[@marshallxue925]

Nah I normally like Don hating, but this time Don literally just said a minute ago that there can be better players but on the same tier and not apply for AD 😂 that’s crazy hate

[@austinjackson2710]

No it’s different because he says AD isn’t on the same level. But sabonis is the same level as sengun but better

[@W3althy_Burrito]

​@austinjackson2710 So then sengun isn't on the same level as sabonis! How can you be a better version of somebody and be on the same tier?

[@austinjackson2710]

@@W3althy_Burrito no level is not the same thing. Who’s better jokic or embiid?

[@tommycapone8926]

@@W3althy_Burrito being on the same level don’t mean tie usually it’s a debate to be had either way there is no debate between Jokic and Embid with AD man has Lebron and can’t even stay above 500

[@King-03530]

bro donnovan is gonna cry all because ad is living rent free in his head😭😭

[@SamRodriguez-fc3it]

Donovan out here roasting AD more than Shaq 😂

[@redactedredacted2998]

real tiers Best in the league, misses half the season, constantly injured but good, A, B, C, D, F

[@MadSnake123]

I'm with Don on this one, no way AD, current AD is on the same level as Jokic and Embiid, just no freaking way ... The correct answer was Jokic and Embiid on S Tier and then AD (and probably Adebayo) on A+, with Chet and Wemby on A. They did Don dirty, but I'm glad that people in the comments are giving them the hard time for being completely wrong.

[@AnimatedAntics-w9c]

Bro 24 12 and 3 is an s tier play is crazy

[@gopenssj9356]

Top of A tier is all AD deserves. I feel Don on this one. Having homies that hole trash takes is rough

[@stargazer8g2]

That generational hate on AD is legendary and I can't say that I disagree

[@theunboxers2]

AD isn’t qualified for S but he is overqualified for A, he should be around like a A+ tier

[@plothaki]

Donnovan was right!

[@sankalpnb9188]

Best thing wouldve been putting embiid and jokic in S, bam and AD in A, Chet,wemby,gobert in B and KAT,sengun,KP and sabonis in C, and brook in D

[@dannydalcantar9889]

So we moving AD down A Tier right on the pod right. Cause those guys in S Tier are clear MVPs and 1As.

[@AtlasAdvice254]

The debate about AD is a summary of his career, he’s a top 5 talent that consistently finishes in top 15 rankings

[@JimmyKudo3000]

Nah I gotta weigh in here, i think Isaac's point is valid, the whole reason we have an "S" tier is too differentiate shit that is truly transformative and special, so to me there is a difference between S tier and the other tiers. I rank Anthony Davis as the 9th best player in the worlld, and even I understand Isaac's argument. If you over-use S tier it dilutes its impotrance.I think Wembanyama, Gobert, Towns, Adebayo and Sabonis are all on that next tier. I'm much less convinced of including Holmgren on that tier as the others, because as much as i love him i do think he's a bit behind them. It is complicated though, cause i agree there is a significant gap between Davis and the that next group of players who for me all rank between 20th-35th in the nba. Sengun should not have been as high as he is for me, he's not a top 10-12 centre. I really don't know how i'd do it tbh. S: Jokic, Embiid A: Davis B: Wembanyama, Gobert, Towns, Adebayo, Sabonis, Holmgren, Porzingis C: Lopez, Sengun

[@grottyband8052]

It’s Jokic, Embiid, and then EVERYONE ELSE

[@burlyzulu]

The Domas disrespect

[@northofmars]

While I genuinely do not want to because the argument was hilarious, I can fix their problem: S - Jokic, Embiid A - AD, Bam, Rudy B - Wemby, Chet, Sengun, Sabonis, KAT C - Porzingis, Lopez

[@carl6909]

Porzingis at C????? 20 ppg, 2 bpg and he is C? not only that but he also has a huge impact on the celtics as a team that stats cant measure, if you look at a celtics game you will see how many openings he makes, i would put him in A personally, but i get if people disagreed and put him high B, but C?!?!?!? thats crazy.

[@machinegunkaz6422]

I think you’ll want to rate wemby in A tier. Although I know you wrote this 3 months ago. He’s far better then the other guys then B and he’s better then Rudy and bam.

[@MisterMeister1]

You cannot have AD and Rudy in the same tier AD is just as good of a defender while averaging like 15 more points, more rebounds and being better in general Bam is also not on that level , he’s like on wemby tier and wemby isn’t b, he has to be higher

[@liammcfadden3947]

Lopez is definitely A tier, great on D and can space the floor and shoot well

[@Pippocallipo96]

"porzingis lost a lot of his juice with the ball in his hands" 💀

[@Tommytsa1230]

Donnavan, I completely agree with you. AD did not come close to embiid and jokic. Yes AD is clearly above all the guys in A tier, but it does not mean that he can be in S tier. Either he is the first A tier or A+. If no more tier can be added, he IS A tier. No doubt.

[@NBAChrxme]

Y’all are so chill 😂

[@IndieMerchantSam]

They slept on KP so bad, bro was the third best Celtic this season and Isaac’s argument about him not being able to create his own shot and not being a better defender than Chet was disproven this playoffs specifically the finals

[@travisscharich7495]

Don was really pissed over AD being in S instead of A tier, he also cursed, that makes it even more funny on the fact that he really wanted to prove them

[@TheHutHuts]

Its so fun to watch Isaac and Donovan argue.

[@thenowlistenup]

Isaac’s face at 11:48 lol

[@yn-uh6pk]

The AD argument is still amazing 😂, a top 10 TD3 moment in my opinion

[@super.sportz.editz17]

Mo was just watching I love him

[@MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml]

kat is second best player, not third 😂

[@yaboitd]

we needed a A+ tier for AD 💀

[@Obidii]

“Porzingis isn’t creating offense for anybody” tells me all I need to know about ball knowledge on this podcast

[@SodaWasDeleted]

Sad Boston fan, Womp Womp. It’s called opinions. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JimmehTruong]

@@SodaWasDeleted NAHH if they using facts and numbers to base their opinions, at least get the facts right. Tingus definitely able to create offense. His post game been crazy this season. He been shooting over everybody

[@Remmyrouser]

@@SodaWasDeletedyou’re acting like just because it’s an opinion doesn’t mean it’s not stupid lol

[@SodaWasDeleted]

@@Remmyrouser Womp Womp, cry in my dms shdder. Waaaaaaaaaaa 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Oly1y]

​@@SodaWasDeletedaw, the kid found a new catchphrase

[@jackredden3445]

Donavan is right with AD. Using his championship and past success is crazy, when you put Brook Lopez at C, even though he won one more recently than AD and is a great defender. Not saying he is better than AD lol but just you can't use that logic on one and not the other

[@prod.byscience]

S tier Jokic Embiid A tier Davis Bam B tier Chet Wemby Sabonis Sengun

[@spidamitchell8311]

Fair and kat should be at B

[@NPARKML]

Don speaking facts about AD tho, they not in the same tier

[@AugustBurnsRed181]

I’m with Donovan AD isn’t S.

[@masonmorgan6586]

How do you put Sabonis in B ???

[@Ash_38_]

4:56 bro got with the facts all he could say was nah😭😭

[@MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml]

wemby is at top of a tier, second bam

[@TranquilKr]

Best tier list of Deep 3, without a doubt!

[@usstockchannel]

victor over karl anthony towns is a joke. Victor is great upside (can give oyu that ) but people massively overate him and spurs are terrible. When did 7'4 shoot sub 40% from the field? probably never

[@Nikodtdrgci]

What do you think of Kawhi Leonard? Try 5

[@MarcoSonzogni-nm3ml]

yes ad is A tier. math is math he isnt as good as the others

[@Markman123]

Gobert got no moves Also Gobert: Fade away 3 on Jokic in game 7

[@Williamschmidt-q9f]

Donovan fr wanted AD in the same tier as brook lopez😭

[@Tm_Martishius]

Sabonis is the third or fourth best center in the league guys dafuq

[@matenemeth85]

my guy you just argued that sengun and sabonis can be in the same tier, but still be rated differently, so AD could be the in the S tier compared to jokic,same way as sengun is in B compared to sabonis

[@williamcroson7387]

S-Tier Can be in the mvp convo A-Tier is in the all nba teams convo

[@LightninCharge]

Embid dropped a 70 point game on Monday January 23th

[@HurleyGoldsmith]

My ranking is. S:Jokic, Embiid, AD, and KAT A:Chet, Victor, Porzingis, Sabonis, Adebayo, and Sengun B:Brook Lopez and Rudy Gobert

[@larzooma]

Anthony David is back to form. I read an article two years ago with the title the year of the big man with a discussion about Embid, Joker, and Giannis. I remember thinking man can you imagine a big man list without AD a couple of years ago. I think he's in that conversation again. Sure they're better, but he's in that tier for sure.

[@kohsmoger1567]

Then how come the lakers are ass. If lebron and AD are so great they should be in the playoffs right?

[@larzooma]

@@kohsmoger1567 I forgot the NBA changed to a 2 on 2 league along with the in-season tournament...

[@therealdannyfenton]

Don lockin up Rudy Gobert 🤣💪🏾

[@DavidTheHeatFan]

React to Terry Rozier to Miami

[@jcregmalos]

Having the A+ tier would have solve that AD debacle

[@mushrifahmed8107]

I was thinking, shouldn't you have taken into account unavailability because of injuries or plyoffs choking into account? And another thing they didn't clarify, are we taking their whole career/body of work into account or just their performance in recent seasons? So in my opinion : S: Jokic (because he is a level above the others in my opinion. Carrying his team to a playoff, and posting record numbers while doing so, that deserves more love) A: AD, Embiid (because of both inconsistency and unavailability due to injury) B: Bam, Brook, Sabonis, KAT (all of them have been consistently good for longer, Brook's been anchoring a top defense for years, and was a beast back in his Nets days, and Sabonis is underrated but effective, and has been performing for a longer time compared to the rookies.) C: Chet, Wemby, Sengun, Gobert (the rookies are definittely great, but its too soon too tell, they could be one season wonders, or busts for all we know) D: Porzingis

[@amanamanay2692]

AD is A, Sabonis is A, Rudy is B

[@ChristopherPorter-n7r]

You guys gonna give Porzingis some respect on defense after he's averaging 3 blocks a game in the Finals?

[@tristanharris8440]

Donny's definitely the odd man out in this group.

[@jsm2322]

fr smh all that hate coming from a knicks fan is crazy

[@kmaddineni11]

“… There’s S and then there’s 2018 Lebron Ig.”

[@user-mo4cl5lp4d]

The AD argument lasted 7 minutes 😭

[@jameshartman3630]

I think the issue is that A is not well define enough, there’s way too much variety and Chet/Wemby shouldn’t be there