Pagan: Fate of Roanoke Review: Here There Be Witches

Joey and Zee give their thoughts on this asymmetric card game for two players, in which you must hide in intentions careful and and manage your resources shrewdly.
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[@oslohund]

This is one of my favorite games of all time. I'm so happy it finally gets some recognition! Such a unique and interesting game - thanks for reviewing it!!!

[@PatrickBrophy]

The art of this game looks so similar to Darkest Dungeon, but seems to be a different artist.

[@Noonycurt]

Yes, I also immediately thought of Darkest Dungeon.

[@GrimDarkDude]

same thought it might be a spinoff at fitst

[@RandomPerson-nd2ey]

Agreed. That's what caught my interest too. The "only 2 player" though? Ehh, I have enough of those that never hit the table.

[@wyrmgold]

Hi, inspired by - yes. Similar, I think not. When we made the game, Maren and I looked at Darkest Dungeon, but it is way more gritty and also plays with the violence more openly. In our game, we are not showing violence or blood. Also, the proportions (DD 1) are completely different. That being said, we really love the artwork of Darkest Dungeon as well. One of the key aspects for us was that we needed a style that would work in our crazily small team in a long run - as Maren had to draw hundreds of cards :-).

[@jellyfishgamestudios]

Agreed, never heard of the game but had to click on the video because I love that art style

[@lystic9392]

I didn't expect you to review this one! Was very curious what you'd think of it.

[@marks6928]

Netrunner is my favourite game of all time. I love the witch hunting theme. This is an instant buy for me.

[@Wosho1982]

One of the best 2 player pvp card games!

[@RulebooksForYou]

Wow, great to hear!

[@TabletopFamily]

Love this game. Vampire empire has a similar concept. Pagan is better but vampire empire is smaller to.

[@wyrmgold]

Thank you! And there is more coming this year and with a lot of partner publishers on board we are sure it will reach you wherever you are located 🙂

[@shawns3911]

I've had this since august 2022. I like it but I would describe it as being a tough game to crack. How sneaky to be as the witch? How aggressive to be as the hunter? Length is a thing for sure. Cool I'm glad Zee finally got a change to play and review. I know he mentioned it like over a year ago. My rating was an 8.5, right between, but it could go up with more tinkering and practice.

[@wyrmgold]

Thank you - have you tried Beyond The Palisade? Or some of the content packs? When you start tinkering, you will see the possibilities :-) Happy gaming!

[@MisterChris1978]

Wish the game were actually available

[@wyrmgold]

Hi on our shop and in Europe it is currently available (And it is now available in 9 languages!) . In the US/Canada Wyrmgold has made a deal with Capstone Games - they will make it available in 2024! Spread the word so we can help to get it to more countries/languages! :-) And thanks everyone for your support, it really is our fuel! 🙂

[@MisterChris1978]

@@wyrmgold I cannot wait! looking forward to US availability.

[@codainlaw]

Okay Dicetower… great review. Makes me want to get the game… so where do you even get this????

[@wyrmgold]

Hi, I guess you are looking for the US version? It will be available by Capstone Games in 2024. :-) Right now, we have it in our online store, but the shipping to US is currently insane...

[@codainlaw]

@@wyrmgoldgood to know. Sounds like a great game so I’m happy to wait until it’s available locally! Thank you so much for the information.

[@oscara.2636]

I have this game and it is bloody brilliant. Annoying that it seems.so hard to find for people as it really is a great game!

[@kevcole3333]

I'll try any game that doesn't have hundreds of pieces and take an hour to set up.

[@lastburning]

Old-school CCGs were more convoluted than today. Not less.

[@lystic9392]

Hahaha yes. The real early ones barely even used icons or keywords. Large swathes of texts.

[@sarumon17]

lol no

[@SanjuroSan]

Where to get?! Nom nom nom!

[@tehbige73]

that's the neat part, you don't, in all seriousness this just fulfilled its second kickstarter but looks to have had little to no retail presence

[@wyrmgold]

@@tehbige73 In the US this is true - for now. In Europe, we are working with a lot of publishers already and also a lot of stores and whole sellers. In the US, our friends over at Capstone Games will help you with your gaming needs in 2024.

[@clyne90]

Card quality is different between 2nd and 1st printing. No mention of that from the publisher apart from a tiny bit on their Ks. Means the new cards dont match, very annoying.

[@timothyyoung3193]

Did someone forget to tell Joey to change out of his pajamas?

[@pauls3585]

This has been out of stock everywhere for the last 6-12 months... one day...

[@peterbartrina1347]

That Review have some issues. Here just some things. The Corebox is inbalanced, in my Games The Hunter Never Wins a Game, it Screeams for Deckbuilding. U ask why the Hunter is Weaker in the Core box ? Because u loose all your tokens if you shoot the wrong citizen, and the cards in the base Game dont give u enough cards to Build up fast! U cant really recover from this! Aaaaaaaand, playing the witch forgives mistakes, but playing the Hunter and dont seeing the bullet comming, its over. The Witch can change the Game very fast, the Hunter cant. After fixing the core issues of the Game with Expansions, than it was a good Game! Didnt mention the Little icons? They Are horrible Tiny!

[@MauricioHoffman]

What part of the expansion do you use to fix this problem?

[@peterbartrina1347]

both green (tuckboxes) and the brown one

[@peterbartrina1347]

I Build the Hunter faster and the witch more Thematic, because she was already fast but had some Not necessary cards in it.

[@Sgrand80]

I disagree.

[@TabletopFamily]

Perhaps you need to play with better hunters lol.

[@jodymitchell1678]

I love the mechanics, unfortunately I'll have to pass due to name & theme. Sucks, why everything fun has to have evil undertones these days? 😕

[@Hudsonbba]

I hear ya. Blood on the Clocktower is the big one.

[@TabletopFamily]

Eradicating evil is good though right?

[@jodymitchell1678]

@@TabletopFamily I personally avoid is all. I wasn't telling others to not play it. Maybe a game with a different theme and similar mechanics is out or will come out. I'm a youth minister who has board game nights with a group at church, I don't think it would sit well if I brought this out. That's why I have to pass on it. That's all. 🙂

[@TabletopFamily]

@@jodymitchell1678 I imagine it being 2 player would be limiting also. Vampire empire is similar, quicker but still hunting down a evil entity. The concept of a hidden identity among many has been done a few times since the 80s with hemilc and Co thats pretty abstract might work. but the only one I can think of that would avoid the act of killing/capturing would be veiled fate works up to 8. Very diffrent but explores the concept of hidden roles among many. Maybe. What are some of the popular hits with your group?

[@jodymitchell1678]

@@TabletopFamily We usually do small games, Botanik, Lost Cities, Azul, both Trails and Parks, have been popular with the group lately. A few heavier games like Brass Birmingham, Lost Ruins of Arnak, Robinson Crusoe and 7th Continent have been fun as well.