Phenibut: What You Need To Know

[@TheDrugClassroom]

I forgot to explicitly discuss the timeline of effects like I normally do, though it is mentioned on the TDC page. Phenibut can have a *long* onset, often taking 2-3+ hours to really notice the effects and the peak can take 4-6 hours to develop. Do not redose after waiting just 1-3 hours in the belief that it’s not going to work! It’s much better to simply try a larger single dose another day if it doesn’t adequately work.

[@NeuronalAxon]

@Yolo da - Elephants can OD on it, though.

[@pipjacjjones]

I would like to take it everyday for anxiety but worry about the liver damage it can cause?

[@dwikafebrianto3016]

Developing Tolerance and Physical Withdrawal should be your major issue rather than liver damage if you take it daily, bruh. It is one of the amazing drugs you must not abuse. I think marijuana is safer than phenibut if it comes to taking it in daily basis.

[@Suokcaz]

heroine

[@notmyrealname9059]

I can't believe I missed this until now. Been using everything for OCD, social anxiety and the 'sperg in me for 10+ years to avoid even more burnout at work and just to be relaxed enough to be around people when I have to. Xanax, Valium, Klonopin (etc etc benzos), low dose methadone, morphine, alcohol, beta-blockers (pfft), barbituates, poppy pods, fuck I could go on and on. Pushing 40 now and just bought my first 100 grams for peanuts. Sigh. Ate a gram a few hours ago but I can see this being better plugged in the future. Even if it just allows me to alternate with using benzos use at work it's a Godsend. Sorry everyone, I normally write better comments than that but with my drug history Pre-Phenibut not knowing about this one I needed a minor rant. Thanks

[@sternkrieger1950]

BEST DRUG EVER (IF YOU DON'T ABUSE IT). Took 1g and was in heavenly bliss for hours (non-stop energy, mood lift, euphoria, increased sociability and anxiety reduction with literally zero side effects). Almost like a mild dose of longer lasting MDMA. Also blows kratom out of the water by far.

[@roddyrodrodrod]

It's totally useless to me. Tried various dosage sizes from half a gram up to 3 grams (with several days break in between) but no effect from smaller dosages and unpleasant feeling and stomach discomfort and a prolonged headache from 3 grams.

[@hodgescouldntdodgeit4374]

Ive tried all sorts of dosages ranging from .500 mg to 9 grams (on empty stomach and not eaying for houra) and only felt tired, from 3 different highly praised vendors. I felt way more off of kava than this stuff.

[@umar3298]

Where do you buy it

[@sternkrieger1950]

@@umar3298 Liftmode if you are in the US.

[@SpankySlaps94]

@@roddyrodrodrod can I ask what kind of phenibut did you use. Personally I found phenibut HCL to be the best one

[@dexterd7882]

If you chose to take it, take a minimum of a full three days off inbetween dosing to avoid withdrawal. You have been warned.

[@Ketu71491]

That's right, haha. I do 750mg every 3 days. Any more results in withdrawal for me.

[@the6ix665]

San Res wtf are you dead now?

[@xzefyr5026]

Or just don't take megadoses

[@momfoldinglaundry9963]

Is this true even in low doses? I found that 500mg worked great for what I was looking for. (Anxiolytic effect and help w sleep. It was AWESOME! Even felt great the next day.) 250mg I didn’t notice much. But if I’m only doing 500mg, do I still have to take 3 days off in between?

[@xzefyr5026]

@@momfoldinglaundry9963 I took phenibut in doses of 250-500mg almost daily for quite some time and had no problem stopping. You should be fine but then again with most substances I've tried I found it easy not to get addicted.

[@xziggiez]

I've been using Phenibut once a week for 6 months cycles for 2 years and have nothing but good things to say about using it correctly Edit 2020: Hey, it's been almost a year since I stopped using Phenibut. My anxiety is completely under control, and I'm much more comfortable in social situations. This stuff is wonderful if you use it responsibly. I didn't have any kind of withdrawal or even a period to ween down the dosage, just one day I realized I hadn't taken my Phenibut in a long time (several weeks) and I moved on with my life a better, less anxious person.

[@al526games]

What was your dose?

[@alyeska4226]

That shit gross. It is one of the couple substances I regret.

[@mickhal1681]

Is once enough I’m thinking of twice a week

[@MrGreedy121]

@@alyeska4226 Have you had a bad experience?

[@alyeska4226]

It's a jerky, awkward thing. It has the feel of a psychotropic.

[@WhySoSquid]

I deeply appreciate all the work you put into this channel ✌️🙏 🌄

[@Hannibalkakihara]

By far the best, most informative, accurate, and unbiased source of information for all psychoactive substances on youtube and the even the web. I love you TDC. Thank you!

[@KATABOLIST]

My brain is made for this drug. Been taking Phenibut on and off for 5 years. Highest dose was around 4-5g but it’s too much, it simply feels TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, top of the world feeling for 24h straight. Usually I go with 2g a day for 1-2 weeks, heck, I even did it for 3 months straight and had ZERO withdrawals. It’s truly a godsend, by far the best recreational drug under the sun, nothing matches Phenibut‘s perfection. Gun to my head, if I had to choose only one substance for the rest of my life it would be Phenibut, no second thought.

[@denis436]

I live in Ukraine and it is being sold here just as a regular drug in a drug store. The price is $7 for a pack of 20 pills, 250 grams each. I find it really helpful.

[@johanndiaz8695]

Are you ok??? Considering the Russian invasion and all

[@billnyethescienceguy7938]

ik you meant 250mg per a pill but god damn imagine taking 250grams of this shit

[@maschadarlinger1753]

@@johanndiaz8695 you are wrong

[@johanndiaz8695]

@@maschadarlinger1753 Wrong about what? There was a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[@artemiygulyaev2280]

@@johanndiaz8695 Still is lol

[@heroesp100]

I've been waiting for this! I love Phenibut and now use it in place of alcohol as a recreational drug & more relieving social anxiety. Please continue doing nootropics! (Edit: I know you said it's not considered a nootropic in the video, but I'd love to see nootropics on TDC)

[@lenn939]

Hero If you love Phenibut, why have you replaced it with alcohol? Do you love alcohol even more?

[@heroesp100]

@@lenn939 Edited my comment. Meant to say "in place of alcohol"

[@rawn5309]

You have a trusted sight to get it? I might want to try it

[@seandavidslipp1821]

@@lenn939 he Said be used it in place of alcohol

[@RandomDrugEnjoyer]

nootropics would be interesting to see. I drink an energy drink called "ghost" that's packed full of them. It's one of the "healthier" energy drinks as it does not contain any sugar or artificial colors and is loaded with 100% of most essential vitamins and minerals. Additionally it has 200mg of naturally derived caffeine and a focus enhancing and neuroprotective blend called "neurofactor".

[@KindOldRaven]

Phenibut is a very strange and I do believe tricky substance. I've tried it in 300-800mg range for anxiety/adhd/stress of which I usually suffer. My first attempt (without really expecting anything) was... well... glorious. I was stress-free, had slight hints of euphoria and was very confident and talkative because of that. Much more so than any placebo would ever be possible. It took very long to kick in (hours), worked pretty damn long and I had a fantastic day. After that... I never had such hefty effects again and I refuse to increase dosage beyond the 800mg range myself. Combining with alcohol is asking for the most brutal hangover (and extremely talkative, heavy-drunkenness after even 2 drinks) so I would steer very clear of that. I absolutely developed tolerance after only a few attempts at using it and it would've been very tempting to chase that super-good-happy-euphoric day but I'm glad I didn't. This is that one substance to me that felt like a slippery slope.

[@graywolf182]

1-1.5 grams of phenibut plus a couple drinks can produce a much more potent effect than phenibut alone, it's closer to like 80 mg of baclofen, and it also makes it last longer. But the hangover is also more intense, that's true. I have not experienced any of the side effects like nausea, but you do get a strong headache similar to one that you get from drinking a lot of alcohol. Still not as bad as the after effects of baclofen though. You can feel nauseous if you take it on an empty stomach, better not do that, even though it reduces the time it takes to kick in from like 3 hours to maybe 2. Not sure about phenibut, haven't had much experience with it, but with baclofen I have not noticed any build up of tolerance when taking it about once a month. Went through 1500mg of baclo over a few years with occasional use, no tolerance whatsoever, 50 mg still produced a decent effect. But I imagine both phen and baclo (as well as lyrica and the rest of it) are extremely addictive if used more often than once a week.

[@LyleKnisley]

Same with me, the first day was great, then not much afterward.

[@daniellockhart6863]

I'm glad you got out of that one bud. I have a friend that fell down that slippery slope and life has been pretty bad for him over the last few months.

[@mr.unknown1386]

I've used phenibut daily for about a year, I have an extreme anxiety disorder. Stopped taking kilonopin from using phenibut. What I liked the most is it doesn't affect my drive for lifting, it enhances it. Problem now is dependency. I take two 1/2 tsp scoups which is about 3 grams, anything over that gives me a pressure headache. When it comes to withdrawal you don't have to wait hours for it fix the symptoms, it's about a half hour for me. The euphoria wears off pretty quickly when taken daily. My best advice is not to take daily.

[@mr.unknown1386]

Also, I take cholinergics, mostly racetams. And benzos are anti cholinergics, so that was another factor for my switch to phenibut.

[@Lilherby]

Yes.. I haven’t taken it daily for this reason. The first time I took it I felt like I took a light dose of MDMA. But it wasn’t like that my 2nd time. it still works but not on the same level. Now I take it once a week.

[@inuyashaspet]

Did you find phenibut more effective for your anxiety than the klonopin?

[@mr.unknown1386]

bassboost For myself it work's equally, it's not like that for everyone though. Problem is it takes so long to kick in, so I take it before bed and when I wake up I'm good for the day. The dependency issue is something that shouldn't be looked over when starting. For me, dropping 100 - 200mg a day to detox is painless for myself. Though I haven't tried this method for a full detox just drooping dose down to one gram (1,000mg) a day. It gives me energy, I'm happy doing my work and I feel mentally sharper but I take it with nootropics. My favorite is aniracetam, it has an anxiolytic effect along with mildly stimulating. I combine that along with either, noopept, piracetam, pramaracetam, phenylpiracetam or oxiracetam at low dose with aniracetam as always being the base.The Choline I generally use is choline bitartrate, sometimes alpha gpc. That fixes my adhd and that's how I stopped taking Adderall.

[@mr.unknown1386]

Herby My first time I felt nothing at a 1, 500mg and it wasn't until the next day I dosed again did it hit me and it was very pleasurable, and music sounds awesome. And my social anxiety went away, which is very helpful for me due to my job where I have to deal with homeowners all day.

[@thenamesmarek]

I love phenibut. Just make sure you dont take it more then 3 times a week. And even that is pushing it

[@ghostnoodle9721]

Withdraws that are bad?

[@K0LBIE]

@SeanC Yep like how alcohol withdrawal CAN kill you, it will make you feel like its gonna kill you...

[@K0LBIE]

@Mr. Scuz yep, your exactly right, I dont know how this, whole 2-3 times a week got started

[@K0LBIE]

@Mr. Scuz it needs to be more, descriptive, like when once a week, but not every week....

[@hugolaurendeau6858]

PLEASE DONT DO LIKE I DO, I AM TAKING RISK WITH MY HEALTH!!! I take it every day for 3 or 4 month about 500mg to 1000mg than take a month off, I have been doing it for 3 years now and never felt any kind of withdrawal.

[@dexterflodstrom9975]

Such a weird and unique drug but definitely one of my favorites, amazing stuff.

[@ЮраЮра-т2б]

Phenibut and a lot of other things (e.g. Mildronate) there: be-f.com

[@shinakuma2774]

Wow.. after watching some usless doctors talk about phenibut on the Drs show, this is the opposite. If only I came here first! Brilliant! :-)

[@brizzlex1919]

That thing they did at the end to relieve anxiety was so cringy. They said tighten your muscles and release to relieve yourself. Lmfao

[@kinky2526]

The doctors are the last place anyone should go get information. Their views are so biased and un educated. They literally look up answers on Google and read them verbatim

[@mBUSHattack]

I just came from that video too lmao

[@mBUSHattack]

​@@brizzlex1919I'm a recovering addict and the drug counselors I'm forced to see evangelize that shit constantly and I'm like, motherfucker, I used to shoot heroin, you think clenching and unclenching muscles is gonna do shit for me???

[@MostGenericUser]

Watching this on phen rn, been a life saver for me sucks can only use it infrequently but that goes for any substance that's worth while

[@daniellockhart6863]

You're right about only being able to use it infrequently or else you can emdup with a very bad addiction and its just awful, I can't understate how bad the addiction is

[@Christian-os3kk]

The amount of work you must have put into this astounds me. What i hear you cover here must have came from reading stories of use and experience of at least several hundred people. And to collect and manage all that data and put it all in order... I'm blown away by how much work you've put into this. Deeply appreciate the video especially that i confirmed some things i was suspecting but never put much thought into it. Just wasn't able to see the consistent pattern that the effects comes in full force after 4-6 hours after ingestion. Once more, Great work.

[@dowkinners4106]

its essentially just the psychonaut wiki article on the drug make into a video. Not knocking it, great videos but they are basically a read out of the Psychonautwiki articles

[@youtubeepicuser4209]

Congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers dude. Been here a while and it used to irk me that people didn’t appreciate you but I’m glad I was wrong about that... awesome

[@TheDrugClassroom]

I've seen your comments on the channel for a while, thanks for watching as long as you have!

[@Hjaelteomslag]

Damn refreshing to hear nuinced information without an underlying motive shoehorned in! Well done, mister! Your attitude is one of a true teacher!

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Thanks, glad you like the content!

[@bartmarinko9315]

One of the best video’s I have ever seen, I see how much work you put in your video’s man! Keep up the good work.

[@brendanthibault5247]

Glad to have you back

[@arielperez797]

So I keep hearing that this stuff helps with socializing. I didn't believe it. I'm super introverted and it literally hurts to speak to people without a topic laid out first. Not good with spontaneous conversation. But this stuff really does work! I just started my dose yesterday and I'm at work saying hi to people for no reason. This isn't like me. Kind of scary because i know I won't be like this all the time...but I want to. This stuff changes your social skills. I WANT to talk.

[@gta_philadelphian4215]

I am clean. Yet I bought some Phenibut. I have not been in good shape after going off pain killers. This stuff gets me up and able to clean and shop without a buzz.

[@theflyingempanada]

I Love Phenibut. I almost can't believe it's not illegal

[@potatertots2060]

Don Flamenco it probably would be if it becomes mainstream

[@tobyhiddens7233]

Do you think can replace a benzodiazepines?

[@user-sm9zs7sc8u]

Toby Hiddens it’s not as sedating but arguably more fun and euphoric.

[@tomastomas5340]

Don’t be naïve. It’s not so innocent as you think. You can overdose just like using others drugs. Read this article. Australian kids overdosed. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5420921/Drug-overdose-school-Gold-Coast-Phenibut-Australia-doctors.html

[@theflyingempanada]

@@tomastomas5340 sounds like those kids took the whole bottle. Don't take a whole bottle full of phenibut pills, kids. Don't be naive.

[@SevenCostanza]

ive found phenibut to be a mood amplifer.... i think a lot of people mistake the fact that they feel happier as the phenibut making them happy but ive definitely noticed if i have bad thoughts i get extremely amplified bad thought patterns and negative feelings. it makes everything more amplified. negative and positive

[@michelekisly2535]

I agree

[@yungmisery2893]

Sounds like acid in a pill lol

[@Jesse78]

Alcohol is a lot like that for a lot of people. I drink a bit but only ever do it if I'm not acutely sad/angry or didn't have a shit day

[@theshroomian2415]

Ik I feel like i can actually cry on it u usually feel numb that’s why I like it and that’s why i like shrooms

[@vladislavnenashev2849]

An old Phen vet here, 14 years using it occasionally. It's awesome for enhancing productivity and coping stress if taken when needed. It also enhances and/or optimizes experience with so many other substances, ranging from alcohol and weed to psychedelics like LSD, and is also good for hangovers. If you happen to be abusing other GABAs like Baclofen, this boy will help you stop by essentially cancelling withdrawal (like Methadone was meant to, but without drawing you into another addiction). So, a great auxiliary substance to have within reach.

[@greischwitz]

Will it help with gabapentin withdrawal

[@marksmanmerc1]

@@greischwitz they're super similar drugs so it might just replace your gabapentin addiction with a phenibut addiction. It might be easier to taper with though.

[@FlyAgaric525]

@@greischwitz Amanita Muscaria or Pantherina will ultimately be much better decision to use

[@daniellockhart6863]

​@@FlyAgaric525thats a ridiculous thing to say

[@johnathancorgan3994]

The r/phenibut subreddit has a lot of information if you dig through it (and a lot of BS and wishful thinking too, so be skeptical as usual.)

[@triple_gem_shining]

yeaso why use reddit.. use actual scholarly resources..

[@mr.unknown1386]

I used to take 13 grams a day and now down to 6 grams. If you have an addictive personality like me, don't touch it. The withdrawal is a nightmare that can take weeks to months depending on how long you've been on it. I've been on it for years now.

[@MeatHusk]

I’ve seen your comment from 3 years ago when this video first came out

[@mauserman8mm1]

@@MeatHusk same I was just about to warn him people have to respect it because it really mess you up if taken daily or abused

[@layneknielsen]

Damn up from 3 grams to 13? I've got anxiety like you, I'll be careful with this one

[@TheJuicebox111]

damn bruh 13 grams a day?!?? thats literally a mouthful. no wonder you had severe withdrawals... hope you're doing okay

[@daniellockhart6863]

Dude, have you managed to come off this yet? I've had a friend have a friend whose been addicted to it recently and his life has been pretty rough since, he can't seem to come off and I'm worried as it seems to be getting on for a while now

[@Chezbo]

Love me some phenibut. Should be getting some in the mail tomorrow. Gonna be a happy new year!

[@svfantom7776]

When you take too much, this hangover is quite scary and painful in a way that's different from other things I've experienced. Feels like your brain is being stretched from the inside out with light also being kind of torturous. Blackouts are very common too. Be careful or be smarter and just pass on this one.

[@cybermollusk]

I love how thorough and detailed these are. I had been looking into Phenibut for my sleep disorder. Out of all the things I've tried thus far, diazepines were the must helpful, but there are so many problems and risks with those. This seems safer, at least when taken properly.

[@allegorx58]

Has all the downsides of classical benzos

[@AcrylicGoblin]

@@allegorx58 Having experience with both, I can say this is quite inaccurate. I can stop using phenibut after a very short taper with no real problems and minimal discomfort. It took a year for me to get off of Clonazepam, and I literally felt like I was dying during withdrawals. Abrupt withdrawal from benzos can cause seizures and even death. I can understand why a person might say that phenibut has the same problems as benzos because both affect the gaba system and both can be addictive. But this statement is like saying that caffeine presents all the same problems as methamphetamine.

[@jamestabbron8124]

@@AcrylicGoblin Not quite, acute phenibut withdrawal which is more easily found than people think can also cause seizures. Benzodiazepines are definitely worse, but not the 'caffeine to methamphetamine' comparison you used.

[@daniellockhart6863]

Yeah, the dude up there is right. The addiction is basically like a benzodiazapine addictio and I can't understate how debilitating and horrible that can be to recover from!

[@Bighaus1234]

Nicotine and high dose phenibut was extremely euphoric for me. What a night lol. I always make sure to give enough time in between uses though to avoid addiction.

[@wilhelmvonkatastrophenburg469]

You made a nearly perfect summary of this compound. Very good work.

[@AcrylicGoblin]

I've been using phenibut for about 15 years, daily for about 10 of those years. Using the FFA form in low doses, it's been very beneficial. Early on I did develop addiction and discontinuation symptoms when I stopped, but that amounted to feeling jumpy for a few days. Lesson learned, and no problems since then. I don't find it to be enjoyable in high doses, but excellent at doses between 300 and 500 mg 1x per day.

[@WeightlessFlex]

What was the lesson you learned. Don’t stop taking it? You’ve been made a consumer for the last 15 years

[@AcrylicGoblin]

@@WeightlessFlex the lesson I learned was to use it responsibly. Not to take increasingly large doses, building up tolerance and becoming addicted. At the lower dose mentioned, I can take it or not without issue, and I would classify my usage of phenibut as that of a beneficial medicine.

[@WeightlessFlex]

@@AcrylicGoblin mhmm of course that’s the answer

[@AcrylicGoblin]

@@WeightlessFlex thank you for your thoughtful and intelligent contribution to this discussion.

[@glass1258]

@@AcrylicGoblin stop taking it . See how u feel lol

[@VictorRodrigues04]

I haven't finished watching the video yet, but my general concern with notropics and supplements has been the effects on organs like the liver and pancreas, kidneys. Many people, like me, have come to phenibut seeking a partial solution to social anxiety problems, and many also have previous problems with alcohol addiction and drugs that may have already altered those organs due to abuse. So I believe it is important to point out that phenibut can cause liver damage if used frequently, causing steatosis among other liver related problems, and also other organs. This is not only for those who have previous problems with alcohol, but for anyone who has a liver problem or uses other medications that can also be hepatotoxic.

[@kerrysanders6668]

Thank you, this is really important info. I appreciate it.

[@jameshermolle3052]

What kind of dose and how often is safe?

[@justtiredthings]

What I wish I could find more info on is whether it is more or less toxic to the liver than alcohol when used at doses that produce comparable effects. I'm interested in replacing drinking with phenibut one night per week in order to reduce the harm to my brain and body from drinking 2 or 3 times per week, but I may be barking up the wrong tree without more rigorous comparisons. I'm going to use chemical aids for social events anyway, I just want to explore a little harm reduction.

[@becky2235]

How did you beat alcohol? Thanks

[@mrkillz1609]

Just take nac and tudca

[@jamesstarter359]

This stuff helped me kick opiad addiction .. amazing stuff when used responsibly for the right reasons

[@trenaceandblackmetal5621]

Feels amazing when you kill a workout in the gym

[@htirah100]

I'm guessing you microdosed?

[@thatstheguy07]

REVOLT AGAINST THE MODERN WORLD yeah, curious how much you’re taking before hitting the gym

[@ЮраЮра-т2б]

Phenibut and a lot of other things (e.g. Mildronate) there: be-f.com

[@Kfs191093]

@@thatstheguy07 and how long before a work out

[@benbrenizer7712]

High dose phenibut plus caffeine and DMAA is the shit

[@Monotropism0]

This is great, man.

[@MightyWhiteofYou]

If it weren’t for phenibut I wouldn’t (probably) be still off heroin. The stuff is a miracle to me.

[@andrewvernon4664]

It's very important to know that it can take about 3 hours before you feel any effects from Phenibut, even when taken on an empty stomach.

[@briancrosby160]

I ODd

[@andrewvernon4664]

@@briancrosby160 Why?

[@thinkingallowed6485]

Finally, a good, accurate report on this substance.

[@timothymstern]

Thank you so much for your work. I love that you address each substance in a scientific context while throwing in reported experiences that are more spiritual an certainly subjective to users. I have to say, with phenibut hcl., & DMT alone, based on my experience with both, you are spot on. It is reassuring as well not being alone figuring these items out. I will spare my own diatribes & experiences on your platform but from one humble individual, I am saying that this channel is the finest resource for sound education on substances. We need more of this & less reefer madness & the like. Obviously. You are epic. Thousand thanks. Cheers!!(A)

[@doodoobrn]

I've taken it every other day for a couple weeks, and right now it's been 20 hours since I took my last 1 gram dose, and I feel extremely tired. It seems to only take about two weeks until you are just taking it to feel normal and avoid withdrawal. Very addictive.

[@roddyrodrodrod]

You're taking it far too often.

[@daniellockhart6863]

Hope you got better

[@NotguiltyNotguilty]

Lyrica and phenibut is a great combo . Everything in moderation as always. Btw great video as always.

[@HCOGGAN]

What does Lyrica and phenibut do together?

[@NotguiltyNotguilty]

Henry Coggan they just enhance each other . So you get best of both worlds. So you don’t need much of each med.

[@YIFF_PUP]

@@HCOGGAN no that can and will kill you if your aren't careful

[@roddy2body]

@@YIFF_PUP How so? Outwith overdose ofcourse..

[@YIFF_PUP]

@@roddy2body I'd advise strongly against, but your probs gonna say fuck it check reddit

[@connerd2183]

Got to love these well reserched, highly informative videos. Much thanks for your contribution to a better world!

[@nikki.23]

I found your channel and it reminds me of going on Erowid everyday in high school. This made me think of GABA (Gamma-Aminobutyric acid) I know GABA is naturally produced by our bodies and would highly suggest GABA supplement especially for recovering addicts or those with restless energy/ anxiety/ mood issues/ insomnia. Calming and somewhat euphoric. Look into it, I was so glad I found it. It produced a warm pins n needles rush with immediate muscle relaxation (as opposed to tense muscles, skin feeling tight and sensitive) on the onset for me. I took it in capsules.

[@hannakentm9913]

I must be an anomoly but I took Phenibut for 36 days straight and had no problem getting off of it. I definitely do see it as a wonder drug.

[@20somethingcimena]

You are blessed because phenibut withdrawals fucking suck

[@ziziflor9019]

Thanks for the information. Wonderful video. I'm trying to find and research alternative medications to the typically prescribed ones and this video has been helpful

[@ЮраЮра-т2б]

Phenibut and a lot of other things (e.g. Mildronate) there: be-f.com

[@avgmaster1]

I went through a years worth in 4 weeks. No withdrawal but I did feel like my best friend moved away. Low doses like 750 mg is best.

[@avgmaster1]

I had a 100 gram bottle of Phenibut , 400 doses, or about a years worth. I burned through it in about 14 days. I had Zero withdrawal but I did feel sad it was all gone. I'll write a full review soon.

[@royhills]

I don't think one gram is 400 doses unless you're taking a very low dose. It's more like one or two doses for most people.

[@avgmaster1]

I'm sorry ,I meant I had a 100 gram plastic jar, so the directions said one dose is 250 mg, or 400 doses. Plus I had a bottle with capsules of phenibut. Anyways if you think you might be going to have phenibut withdrawal just get Gabapentin or Lyrica, the other 2 Gabapentinoids. As far as baclofen, it's at best, a very weak VGCC drug, it messes with the gaba B receptor , Gabapentinoids are weak B receptor drugs. They interact with calcium channels . So Phenibut ,Gabapentin and Lyrica are the 3 Gabapentinoids and they are practically interchangeable . Thanks

[@cybco]

There's no way.

[@richardbarneycastle1262]

Your brain isn't like every other humans on earth then.

[@excusemesir7824]

This substance is better than nothing if you have an anxiety disorder. The sedation & subtle mood boost is noticeable at doses around 500mg-750mg. I never take more than 1 gram. The detoxification/ withdrawal process can be an intense nightmarish experience if you use multiple grams for a few consecutive days. The physical side effects become noticeable at recreational doses. Trust my report because if you take too much for too long, you will regret being born.

[@suryadas6987]

What if you already regret ever being born? 😨

[@thomaskrymkowski-om5mk]

Why bother taking it at all if I am to expect withdrawal after only a few days taking it. What CAN I take to chill?

[@Artcore103]

​@@thomaskrymkowski-om5mk amanita muscaria extracts.

[@CTCAC2000]

Swim took 4g's a day for 5 days, didn't take any on day 6 and started to get nausea and achy. Took 2g's that evening and the symptoms went away. That is an extremely short time to get with withdrawal symptoms!

[@BurninatorTheTrogdor]

I've been using this for 20 years and love it. My dad on the other hand can take any or he pukes.

[@sternkrieger1950]

I only take Phenibut once a month at a max of 1g. Yeah, you feel all amazing, social, talkative, euphoric and music sounds orgasmic, but for those effects the rebound you can get on day 3 or 4 after sucks. Low mood, anxiety, depression, anhedonia, insomnia, etc. It only lasts for a few days and it doesn't happen all the time, it's NOT a withdrawal, but can make you suicidal. Phenibut is basically like borrowing future happiness for a day and then pay it all back much worse. Of course, this is my personal experience with it, but I am reading more and more people sharing the same experiences. Just be careful with it and if you do experience a rebound, please note that it's only temporary, so don't do anything stupid, especially taking more Phenibut to counter the negative effects and end up with dependence.

[@niccolopaganini4268]

Seems like my worst MDMA comedown which lasted 3 days except i felt so bad that i didn't have any suicidal thoughts, i was laying in my bed without life and my thoughts were just empty, nothing mattered to me

[@jcbanbury]

@@niccolopaganini4268 I had that with cocaine.

[@jcbanbury]

Jeez, suicidal! I had that with cocaine so will never touch it again

[@jbuddyman]

@@niccolopaganini4268 I would say that as long as you stick to what you have been doing. 1 g a month, all you will feel is rebound, but take it every day for a week, then stop... Definitely withdrawal. I've had cold spells, aches pains, and you aren't kidding about " suicidal thoughts" because just saying that that feels like an understatement. Regardless I was retarded and didn't think much would happen if it was an acute binge for being in a stressful wreck. Tapering off is only recommended to those who've consecutively abused it but once a month seems honestly to me the best advice I've ever read.

[@OneLessonADay]

Happy to see Phenibut is discussed like this! Phenibut was recommended to me to come off something else. Took too much, too long. But wow! Withdrawal of Phenibut is the worst I've ever been through. Phenibut is still being sold as a vitamin/supplement which really amazes me considering what abusive use can have as a result. But that's my (stupid) experience, I understand it can be a wonder when properly used.

[@Ddddonnn]

What did you come off and how long did you take it? In what dosages?

[@lsalvage3228]

Every Saturday morning I take 1.5 grams of phenibut and 10ug of LSD. It makes me feel awesome for the day especially If I work out in the morning.

[@patrikrohman4550]

Man that sounds like a lovely saturday ritual.

[@lsalvage3228]

@@dirkgently6139 can you give me some idea of what you're on about?

[@dirkgently6139]

Nevermind your not who i thought you were i can tell just by how you answered back to me thanks anywayd and sorry for bothering you

[@lsalvage3228]

@@dirkgently6139 hahaha you have zero idea who I am. I'm smarter than you thought, I'm not dumb enough to give my email to a stranger on KZbin.

[@mavraganisx]

Gary Davies excellent regiment

[@terra4m303]

I used it every day for a year at 900mg and stopped cold turkey with no issues. Did it again for about 5 months and quot again no issues.

[@31stoffl]

Maybe you used icing Sugar?

[@Skarnex1337]

Phenibut is not a drug for recreational use, not unless you can resist using it every 1-2 weeks. if you want a general purpose anxiety cure, I highly advise the following: assuming you intend on using Phenibut HCl to reduce anxiety, once every 3 days at most, you can make the effects last all day without excessive dosing by doing the following. Start with 1 300mg capsule of phenibut and a small amount of water. break an antacid tablet to roughly the size of the phenibut capsule, and dissolve both in the water. you want the antacid tablet to mostly dissolve after a few minutes, but not fully. this indicates your solution is close to a pH of 7 and is thus safe to drink. drink 1/3rd of the solution every 3 hours for a subtle all day anxiety reduction and slightly better sleep tonight. Even in low doses spaced out like this, you should still take a week of two off periodically to prevent dependence.

[@roddyrodrodrod]

What about baking soda instead of antacid pill?

[@robbiemurda2213]

Phenibut and Kratom together feels......Amazing 🤩

[@RichardBaran]

Phenibut has improved my life more than anything ever. I have been under Dr supervision of 2g a day for 3+ years. It let me not always have extream anxity, headaches, full body pain, helped to be calmer and less of an asshole. I know their going to ban it one day and I don't know what I will do. Just to add I don't feel it anymore. Even if I happen to take more.

[@GModBMXer]

Have you tried gaba supplements?

[@surjeetsingh-wz1uj]

I m in depression can u help

[@elsapien503]

Awesome that it’s helping you. Are you still taking this? If so, is it still effective for treating your ailments? I know I have a sever GABA deficiency, but have never taken meds like these.

[@allegorx58]

Bullshit. No doctor would sign off on that kind of use.

[@benjaminfogler347]

Great work as always @thedrugclassroom ! Could you do an overview of Piracetam too? Thank you!

[@hairystyles4212]

2 of my friends are extremely dependent on it, please be super careful. their withdrawal is hell. but this is the only drug I've tried that I've noticed an extreme aphrodisiac effect, calling up your exes or your friends with benefits 😂

[@1063Days]

I feel that. Its incredibly strong because it gives you incredibly sexy confidence..until the withdrawals kick in and then I'm super awkward

[@ZemanTheMighty]

Dude no kidding. On phenibut you want to conceive your own personal army

[@hugenugs1779]

Omm! I totally agree!

[@Monster33336]

Phenibut is great and you can't really overdose on it. Use it as needed in moderation and you won't run into issues.

[@jameshermolle3052]

@John Sampson how many mg ?

[@Bighaus1234]

2-2.5 of phenibut always makes everything seem fresh and exciting. Very euphoric and great!

[@finallight1061]

Subbed, one of the most relevant and informative channels I've found on drugs. By the way this video saved me a lot of time google searching trying to see how related gabapentin and phenibut are. From what I understand they both effect the calcium 2 channels but gabapentin does not bind to the gaba receptors like phenibut. I always have really bad withdrawals from using gabapentin and am trying to find an alternate substance to use or at least something to help alleviate some of those withdrawal symptoms. Also I am experimenting to see if phenibut helps at all with treating withdrawal symptoms of kratom. I'll let you know my findings if interested.

[@sabinavedi2112]

any news?

[@mr.bhombasticfuckingfantas9645]

best channel on youtube for a true but brief education of different medicine from around the globe, closest thing to a erowid like youtube channel stay blessed m8 can you do one on cannabigerol and cannabinol if you haven't as well as a segment on MPF-47,700, U-4TDP, U-48,800, U-49,900, and U-50,488 and the similarities and differences amongst these synthetic opioids you got avi calling this the real krokodil so many miss conceptions amongst these new RCs would love some straight facts amazing work again m8

[@LukieDuke1]

Literally just took it 10 minutes ago and this gets uploaded

[@LukieDuke1]

You can only dose 1-2 times a week so phenibut is only a short term solution

[@NotguiltyNotguilty]

Same here. Just took some lyrica and phenibut. Great combo. Have you try it??

[@LukieDuke1]

Not guilty 82 Not guilty 82 Seems like it would be very euphoric but might cause a higher chance of withdraw symptoms

[@NotguiltyNotguilty]

TheDogmaDog yes it would make withdrawal worse if you got hooked on it.

[@mcreal109]

@@LukieDuke1 L-THEANINE + caffeine all the way

[@benbrenizer7712]

Literally just finished tapering off Phenibut. Respect this shit and take it no more than 1-2 times a month IMO. Awesome when taken on occasion and respected

[@bizaron5335]

It still puzzles my mind - GABAergic substances are capable of creating the most severe kind of physical addiction which could possibly result in delirium tremens, phenibut included. However, muscimol from amanita muscaria is also a GABAergic substance, does it therefore have the same physical dependence risks?

[@lenn939]

Bizaron Probably, if anyone would use it that much.

[@bizaron5335]

@@lenn939 Well, it makes sense but it's kinda strange, given amanita's deliriant status.

[@bizaron5335]

@@millertime7891 Although I am trying to educate myself about the human biology part neccessary for drug education, my level od knowledge is still somewhat sketchy. A video where all the receptors and possible actions on them would get introduced would be awesome but I realize that with Seth's dedication and quality requirements, this would probably be extremely time consuming given how many drugs and line blurring drugs are out there.

[@bizaron5335]

@@millertime7891 Thx, gonna check it out.

[@elijahsexton7472]

I think so......spooky....yet sustainable....if you've ever seen them grow

[@black4460]

It’s so good!! Especially for focus and anxiety use it in small quantities and don’t now use it long term. I have been using it for a decade. It is hard to buy now but can sill be acquired.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

Sounds like a drug I'm glad I found out about here, because I could see myself using it regularly and getting stuck in dependence completely by surprise if I encountered it as a supplement.

[@BigBodyBiggolo]

It is super insidious, i have never had withdrawal so bad yet it didnt even get me very high

[@BigBodyBiggolo]

@The Bug Bouncer Luikart Skarda Super Hero lol im jealous. I heard of people preferring it over MDMA cause of how high they get (neither mdma or phenibut gets me a good feeling, i just get weirdly intoxicated, looking and acting super drugged, but at the moment not feeling any different then normal) If you dont mind me asking, how much and how frequent did you take it?

[@BigBodyBiggolo]

@The Bug Bouncer Luikart Skarda Super Hero holy crap thats crazy lol, that was the effect of the pheni itself or withdrawal? I got those only when i had taken 3.5g a dose and drank a bunch of vodka with it, and i only got those nasty side effects the next days(/months) during withdrawal. Maybe your body turns it into a weird metabolite? Where did you buy it from?

[@BigBodyBiggolo]

@The Bug Bouncer Luikart Skarda Super Hero damn thats pretty interesting. I also get strong munchies lol. I wonder why you get so high of it, sounds cool

[@dmw870]

Great video, Seth!

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Thanks!

[@WehrmachtBunny]

Thank you for making this video on my favorite drug! I personally think when taken with care(once every 2 or 3 weeks) it's a miracle drug.

[@ThaGVPSon]

Iv taken 1-1.5 grams daily for 5 months, how bad will it feel to quit?

[@WehrmachtBunny]

@@ThaGVPSon if you slowly lean off it, you shouldn't feel too bad however, I've never abused Phenibut, because I do insane amounts. research on some people say withdrawals are worse than suboxone. Not calling you out, but people should research the facts about drug.

[@venomfied1873]

ThaGVPSon it’s gonna suck if you haven’t found out already. I did it for just 13 days straight and the withdrawals were some of the hardest I’ve ever had. No sleep for days and very bad mood swings

[@martensamulowitz347]

This is an amazingly informative video!

[@barb7124]

Be careful though....I took a regular dose of phenibut one time and was tossed into the biggest manic episode I've ever had. I have Bipolar type 1 and I take meds for it, but damn. Phenibut made me feel like the guy in the limitless movie, or the Lucy movie. I felt like an invincible demi-goddess. I glowed with euphoria, and I had racing thoughts that seemed genius. I felt like I really understood all the secrets of life. I kept having ideas for creative projects but I couldn't focus long enough to write them down. I ended up in my backyard, gazing up at the stars feeling my mind open up to the secrets of the Universe. When the effect started to fade, I became horribly paranoid. Since I do not fully understand why I had this outcome, I am scared to try it again.

[@mikehunt8318]

It's good when coming off molly

[@BaltimoresBerzerker]

I understand! Hang in there girl.

[@daniellockhart6863]

Please don't take it again, I definitely sounded like it could have triggered you manic episode.

[@KD--nz4ck]

I wish you were still active :( loved your website and have watched all the videos

[@cnacks4835]

Second worst withdrawals I've experienced just behind benzos. It's almost identical to benzos except it only last a few days as opposed to months. Use caution with daily use

[@Christian-xo8hu]

This is an excellent addition to your channel!

[@L33tSkE3t]

Phenibut or Aminophenylbutryric acid (APBA) is somewhat structurally similar to (GABA) y-aminobutyric acid, hence it's sedative and neuromodulatory behavior and acttion as a GABA b receptor as an agonist, similarly to baclofen, GHB (y-hydroxybutyrate), and Lyrica or Pregabalin (Beta-isobutyl-GABA) but somehow at low doses releases dopamine through neuro excitation. Fascinating

[@lizardman1582]

I know pharmacologically there is no reason Phenibut should increase dopamine (even at low doses) in fact it should decrease dopaminergic activity but it doesn’t. Its just so interesting how complex our brains are

[@jayfermin7449]

Never took it before but I am on 800mg gabapentin 3 times a day. I'll just take all 3 or sometimes 4 in the morning and the rest of the day, I'm in a great mood. No social anxiety, depression or low energy. The downside is the withdrawal. Which is an intense feeling of the exact opposite of those 3 things. Also, as a musician, i can attest to the musical enhancement. It has done wonders for my quality of life.

[@DingDongDaddyFromDumas]

This drug is different than any others in it's class. As little as 3 days in a row will have significant after effects, and it's very common to have around 4 days of low mood or depression after a single moderate recreational dose. This drug needs more care and self control than most other drugs I've tried. Also the euphoria was downplayed in this video. It has an amphetamine level of euphoria, if you're someone it works for.

[@dasit6034]

Makes me super motivated, energetic and happy all day on 1.5G. I only take it once a week tops tho in exceptional cases. Most of the time once every 2 weeks. If I abuse it (alcohol, taking it often) I'm unable to sleep for days.

[@aaronm2283]

I've been a user for a couple months now. Its something I go to if I'm feeling down or stressed. I take it once, sometimes twice a week. If things get tough at work. I havnt felt any withdrawals or strange after effects. Its a god send for me. Helps me sleep as I works nights. Honestly this shouldn't be for people who have extreme anxiety or depression because it works very well and will become addictive to vulnerable individuals.

[@spamlogs2701]

Nice this is just what I need cause I’m flagged in my medical records for benzos

[@WarmCompress]

@@spamlogs2701as you probably should be, right?

[@jordyhunter5275]

Phenibut is an extremely wonderful tool if used properly. Allowing tolerance to be acquired by abusing dosages and not properly cycling periods of use is a terrible thing to do because the potential goodness is lost. My personal sweet-spot is 2 doses of 750mg each, spaced 4 hours apart, on an otherwise empty stomach...with COFFEE, no more than once a week, usually on a Saturday before I go out to socialize. Good news is, most people are responsible users and enjoy the full benefits by using it appropriately. The on-set is fairly long, so I do not recommend a second dose for at least 4 hours and the total daily amount should never exceed 2 grams. Once a week is common for the maximum benefit, although some people in Russia will take a small daily dose of less than 300mg a couple hours before bedtime, never more than 3 months in straight duration

[@Jmack7861]

Been waiting for this

[@raleighmason7211]

Just ordered some should be in tomorrow. I am a daily Kratom user and was wondering if their was any synergistic effects between the two

[@christianmathison1182]

Kratom, phenibut and coffee! Thank me later!

[@grim789]

Love your videos man!

[@carpetfire7862]

I love phenibut. I take it with kratom occasionally and it's a good time. It also doubles the effects of beer so be careful with that. Also it's crucial to have off days if you're going to take it perpetually. 3 on 2 off at least. If you take high doses it also seems to make me feel weird in my throat and it makes my mouth taste electric if that makes sense.

[@mrsentencename7334]

Could be a good way to save money on nights out considering the price of things nowadays. I took a gram the other day for the first time and it didn’t seem to do much. Can you weigh in on this?

[@KTEX78]

Increible video with a lot of valuable information

[@cyrilio]

WoW youre over 100k subs. Congrats man

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Thanks!

[@scifiaudious2]

took magnolia bark (another GABA substance) days after taking 300mg of phenibut......felt the bark soooo much more I didnt know how far it was going to go, was very apparent when it usually isnt

[@Eric-gv4di]

I took one gram of phenibut yesterday afternoon, drinking a sugary cup of coffee 20 minutes after dosing. I felt subtle, mild euphoria and strangely like my younger adolescent self before my OCD became an issue. The euphoria may have been purely from relief from anxiety and not an added direct effect of the drug itself. Good stuff but be careful

[@Ketu71491]

I do 750mg every 3 days, been doing that for years. Anymore than that, it'll bite me. It's a great substance if used carefully and methodically.

[@WhoBallCain]

i have OCD as well as social anxiety and this stuff really works...it's nice to see someone else using it for OCD

[@Eric-gv4di]

@@WhoBallCain yup just once a week to chill and take a break, and cannabis helps me with exposure and response prevention

[@johnventers2220]

Hey man great video

[@kiddywiddy5000]

im on magic mushrooms right now and im listening to this with lofi house playing in the background and its great really educational i love it

[@CorzIlla]

this channel is awesome.

[@Jonathan_Guice]

My tolerance got to be crazy with Phenibut. I haven't taken it in 10 months now, but when I stopped I was having to take 8.5g+ in order to get any effects.

[@jon3706]

Did you tamper or cold turkey?

[@richardbarneycastle1262]

That would put me in the ER

[@Jonathan_Guice]

@@richardbarneycastle1262 those were very bad days. I got up to about 100g in a week at one point. Very bad days and glad that's behind me.

[@meows_and_woof]

If you decide to use it treat it like alcohol. So take it only on the weekend and carefully. Then you will enjoy it Otherwise it will loose it’s euphoric effect pretty fast and you’ll have to take it just to feel normal

[@raxoTV]

I take like 3.5 grams, lol. And I only use it like 1-2 times a week at most, if that. And I barely notice it (yes, I take it on an empty stomach and I drink coffee somettime after). I think my GABA tolerance is pretty high from alcohol and occasional Diazepam, though.

[@knowiknownothing]

Nice work, Seth

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Thank you!

[@Mamboyyyyy]

I would love to see a Nicotine video in order to better understand the pharmacology of the substance.

[@TheDrugClassroom]

I'd really like to cover nicotine soon, it may be one of the next videos as an overview of it is definitely due.

[@AcapellaFella]

Thanks man. Just ordered some today!

[@jon3706]

Be careful withdrawals can be painful

[@SouthernOregonOrgani]

I had to quit this stuff, I did indeed get pretty addicted to this stuff. Got to the point where I was getting the same anxiety I would get when I was between scores with opiates. Be CAREFUL ppl, it’s easy to say Oh only do it once every three days... the stuff feels really good and it’s easy to find ur self fiending this stuff pretty damn fast. I got up to 5-6 grams a dose

[@lizardman1582]

Personally I never found Phenibut particularly enjoyable, it also gave me an awful headache even at lower doses. I’ve been addicted to quite a few substances in the past but Phenibut was self regulating for me

[@derp9193]

@@lizardman1582 For me it's just completely ineffective, at least with dosages under 3 grams but I refuse to take more than that. It also gives me a sour stomach and mild nausea but it's not unbearable. I wonder if my history of alcohol and benzo addiction plays into my tolerance for it. I still have a lot of this stuff left and I just feel like it's such a waste. I wish I could feel this "waves of euphoria" feeling that people talk about just to understand the fuss. Maybe it's a blessing though since I hear bad things about the addiction potential.

[@welostmylighter2703]

Dude awesome video