Is Talent Even Real? ( Crazy Box Turbo Duels)

[@Lds198]

As a dev, that's hits hard. Everyone that's worth their salt hit the "books" real hard. HOWEVER the one true talent is focus , some people I know are just able to reach that mind state where they can learn anything twice as fast than everyone else would .

[@anhdangviet2668]

that's quite funny because focus can be practiced too, i mean you must have had someday you couldn't focus for shit, yet someday you focused like crazy and learned quicker than you'd ever done. Well at least that's what i experienced (that's what happened when i have to constantly study for exam in about 2-3 week, at few days in, i can barely focus and constantly have to try to keep my mind on the task but pass that point, things become much more easier)

[@nicolasturetta7959]

In psicology we call it "the zone". It's a dimension where you are 100% focused on the task/game you're doing or playing. Basically your performance Is enhanced and you are capable of doing things you couldn't think you'd be capable of. It seems the world around you Is moving slower, your thoughts, reactions and movements are way faster and precises. Far more common in sports but also in common day tasks.

[@Eggwo]

What game are you a dev of?

[@jtaicello]

Was not expecting the classical music discussion about Mozart in this Yugioh Master Duel video hahaha

[@mokeymale8350]

I think the knowledge that he had multiple art classes and still could only draw those unfunny joke ghosts makes those videos even better than I thought they were

[@brendandidycz5480]

You know I hear your voice and I do not expect a defensive lineman to be making it. But I like that. You're full of surprises. You're like Number 85: Crazy Box.

[@umbrajesus5230]

That last Jojo edit was really freaking funny, I knew it was coming but it still got me lmao

[@martinmespiespinosa7218]

In México there is a famous saying that goes: "The one who wants can more, than the one who can" (Puede más el que quiere, que el que puede) Is related to the "What's better: a natural talent vs the will to surpass oneself?" issue. As my own testimony, I was so shy and really bad at small talks, A couple years after I gratuated, I inherited a Grocery store from my parents, I still attended it and now for almost 10 years it's been a blessing. Now I'm able to keep small talks, and actually restarted my social life, even been in a couple of dates, able to keep a convesation without long odd pauses like my past self.

[@Anochezco45]

Mismo sentimiento aquí. Soy mejor hablando ahora que hace 10 años, definitivamente, no tengo problema en intentar mantener conversación. ¿El problema?, sigo siendo tímido jaja

[@Destiny-hp7gz]

2:40 OMG a Disgaea Reference. Editor is just the best.

[@cfltournaments8406]

Came here for the crazybox memes, left with existential crisis on talent :)

[@nguyen07355]

Talent is a "Pot of Greed" while Practive/Experience is a "Spellbook of Judgement"

[@tabmasterbeats]

"Talent is pursued interest. Anything that you're willing to practice, you can do" -Bob Ross

[@MediaLuna-c6s]

The philosopher logs

[@antto9218]

that jojo drawing at the end made laugh hard because of the context of the video

[@Mr.Stitch]

That talking moon spider was pointing directly into my soul

[@reekee2182]

This was oddly a really insightfull video to my current situation, I always get told I'm talented at everything I do but have a real issue practicing and giving effort into anything. I always get great jobs but feel a huge compulsion to quit once they start expecting more from me. But I kinda get it now, they're making sure that I'm not just talent but also focused and fixed on improving. I guess I hope I can get out of this rut. Thanks man

[@gtdfg4594]

Love this channel, the editing and real talk combined with casual play is a god tier mix, thanks for the content!

[@esper_lvl4900]

The problem with this topic is that, whenever some person achieves something great, people automatically assume, that that person is talented, while in reality it didn't even matter that much (if at all). SO yea, good topic to talk about, love your videos)

[@balistikscaarz1959]

I've found that the more personally invested you are in something and the more you enjoy it the harder you'll be more willing to push yourself and the better you'll retain info on how to improve. But there's also definitely a matter of everyone learning in different ways, I remember I was terrible at math from middle through high school and thought it was just a me thing because I'm great with writing and English and those two are kind of opposites. But I went to college and had to relearn a lot of high school level stuff and somehow I ended up really good at it, but the teaching methods were also totally different, being more personal and with "at your own pace" style as opposed to "here's what you do. It's due tomorrow idfk you figure it out".

[@zad_rasera]

"People say that I'm a genius. But what they don't know, the only way to become a real genius, is to work day and night." -Pablo Picasso.

[@N0noy1989]

And he also is a genius. This is just like those people saying what truly counts is the inside, but then they're super attractive on the outside. Hardwork will beat a lazy genius, but a hardworking normal person will just get left in the dust by a hardworking genius.

[@yetijunior]

Wait a minute, there’s no motorcycles/duel runners here. These aren’t turbo duels!!

[@brightpowder_cena]

Card games on motorcycles when Konami?!

[@Populon993]

tbf it's pretty hard to drive with crazy box-shaped wheels.

[@EliasIncorporated]

Honestly the discussion in this video was pretty inspirational for me

[@totalwartimelapses6359]

TDL goes to a person to start some small talk, first line he says "in this video we're gonna be listing the top ten ways to abuse Pot of Greed"

[@jeanmemmler5865]

As a person who is naturally talented at anything learning related, and I understand what you're saying. Talent is a ceiling and a floor. But you have to nurture your talent. I was always a bit of an outcast at school because I was better than everyone else without putting any "work". But I had worked all my life up to this point learning everything I could, to train my logic and memory. And I still do to this day. I think most people have a talent at something, and I always hated that my teachers would put me on a pedestal while sinking others because they were bad at this or that, rather than saying: he's good at this or that. What I mean by that is: work as hard as you can to maximize anything you are interested in. At the end of the day, effort is 100% between you and you

[@idontspeakforfree]

My god I found the start of this video relatable 😂 lol

[@halodragonmaster]

Bruh, that final clip. This video does hit differently though.

[@DerpYetacus9001]

“Years of academy training wasted!” -Buzz

[@LivingShdw]

As someone who has talent in certain things. I think the easiest way to explain it is kinda like leveling skills in an rpg. If you have talent it might take 60xp per level, whereas a normal person might take 100. You still need to do the work, but you generally progress faster than someone who doesn't have talent. In general, it comes down to way of thinking most of the time. Some thought patterns pick up certain concepts much easier. Which you can think of as a "character class" of sorts.

[@seongwookhong6608]

I came to watch crazy box meme. Left after getting important life guides from a weird looking spider. Thanks duellogs lol

[@mattr791]

TheFootballLogs when?

[@yeagno1483]

Talent might be not that important, skill on drawing better hand than your opponent on the other hand

[@guitarbass22]

Talk about deep discussions.

[@Lds198]

Is it ironical that I found this more engaging than the average videos where he just small talks ?

[@dragonmaster951753]

Talent is very important in competition. It's useless without practice though. So while hardwork will win over raw talent, someone with talent with the same hardwork will always win over

[@SuperVoodude]

All the talk about talent vs training just has me itching to re-read Eyeshield 21. Other sports manga probably highlight it well, but E21 is all about that battle.

[@abdulazizmohammed8797]

WAS THAT A DISGAEA 3 WTF

[@porygon-z8270]

EXPERIMENT

[@mrmetal19]

ye

[@zeusalternative1270]

This is literally Rock Lee's character in a nutshell

[@JohnSmith-uf9mu]

Talent is based on innate genes and traits that are considered beneficial for whatever you are talented in, and as all those genes are different, so are talents, take Mozart for an example, there are people with perfect pitch, and then there is the man who could compose masterpieces in his mind in under an hour, and while work is extremely important, if someone with talent and someone with none worked the same amount, the person would talent would always win.

[@TheDuelLogs]

This is the common knowledge and what I use to think too. But the actual data doesn't support this view surprisingly enough.

[@zad_rasera]

@@TheDuelLogs True. I wish people won't just give up easily. I used to think I was bad at studying, but when there came a time where I needed to have high grades no matter what, I actually succeeded. It's just like you said. I tried thousands of studying techniques. Some of them worked. Some didn't. I abandoned the latter. I still have those studying skills up to this day. I can learn various topics if I put my head in it enough.

[@zad_rasera]

Personally, I feel like "If you work really hard, you'll succeed." is a dangerous mindset. If people try their very best and they don't succeed, they get all depressed because they expect the rest of the world will bend to their will and let them do what they want. That's not how the world works. Maybe it's just a wrong place wrong time. Maybe you committed some mistake that you weren't able to spot. If you try your best and you don't succeed, it's fine! Rather than moping about it, study carefully where you went wrong, and do things differently next time. Plus, it's more fun seeing yourself gradually improve than seeing yourself succeeding in something you're naturally good at.

[@fisicogamer1902]

Even if that was true, all we humans need is a job to pay the bills. If someone at your job does better than you , they will be paid more. That is the only difference. If you are ok with your paycheck, this is not a problem. Work in your craft or change the company(or create one) if you want more money. "Win" here doesn't matter, unless you are an olympic athlete or something.

[@b_but_not_2b]

Talent without dedication leaves you average. Hard work without direction or innate talent also leaves you average. What is really important is a good teacher. Many successful individuals in their field have their talents passed down or, if they're really privileged, bought for them.

[@SUPPAcHERO]

You're really talented at singing. Especially "tsunami."

[@benedu3450]

lineman? football has lineman? and then I realise , it's that football

[@RogueTabaxi]

Where you censored...by a Stunfisk?

[@meka7275]

you know, some people might say that small talk is easy and useless thing to focus/look at, but i disagree. About 2 week ago, i was hanging out with my friends, we talk and jokes around for about 2 hour, and after that, we dont have any topic to discuss, so we just keep repeating the boring jokes that makes us laugh earlier. The more we try to talk, the more silent it became.I too was frozen at that time. I am someone who rarely start the conversation, i mainly go with flow. I think small talk is a pretty important thing, even if you think it will not be useful in the present, it might be useful in the future. i also sometime got to talk infront of many people, because i am the leader of school religion organization (just some normal thing in my country), i often need to talk infront of many people, and i sometime got stage freeze. But after about some month, i begin developing my skill in public speaking, and got little bit better. After graduating, 2 years passed, im invited to the organization to attend some party. When i got there, my teacher told me to introduce myself to the junior, before that i have a lot of confidence, but when i talk, everything dissapear from my mind, then i begin speaking like dead person/AI.Those moment makes me realize that i need to keep using my skill, and honing my skill, or else it will become like a rusted knife.

[@Marqrk]

So when are we getting TheSportsLogs where Mr Logs shows us his amateur sportsball skills in a spider costume?

[@SylvesterAshcroft88]

Blink is also a good book, that helps you see things differently.

[@dafazain5978]

Most inspiring vtuber I've watched

[@clem7057]

@TheDuelLogs Duel Logs Are you still doing sports or working out?

[@charlysenpai]

I learn so much with every stream, I wish I could be when it's live

[@smoker6683]

Now this is a great discussion to listen to.

[@chrisshorten4406]

A Rikka deck! It makes me so happy to see another person playing my favorite deck! (Also, why did that old coworker hate you? )

[@zethroth0077]

Yes Rikka is so much fun! I recently made a deck that includes Rikka and VFD and borrelord and I made it to plat 1 while using the waifu!

[@chrisshorten4406]

@@zethroth0077 then you've had way better luck than me. No matter what deck I run, I seem forever trapped in Gold. Still, I love playing Rikkas, and it always makes me happy to see Teardrop's summoning animation in Master Duel.

[@Wannabechefguy]

I literally learned how to be a normal person by working. My parents didn't teach me much about being a human. And I was kinda just thrown out in to society where I did what I wanted so I was definitely seen as a selfish asshole by my peers. When I didn't even mean to be so. But because my parents had no interest in my development as a human, they just let me go on my own.

[@ripleycastle5668]

Wow, same.

[@Ragnarok540]

Same here. People have kids and think that just paying a school and a college or university is enough to educate those kids buts that's just not enough. I have only felt like a 'normal' human being after lots of years working with other people. I really wonder how different my life could have been if they cared more about me developing as a human as you say.

[@darktrunks8820]

Opinions on Barrel Dragonchan the best waifu?

[@NICOCLASH]

After this, you have become the vest v-tuber despite the fact that you aren't a v-tuber. Years of years of deliberate practice to reach this goal

[@javsandarts]

People say I have a talent for drawing and I dont really believe it at all. I just simply kept drawing as a kid instead of doing other things. When they ask me "how are you so good at that?" I just point out how bad I am at many other things, like actually talking with people. I still have a long way to go and Im trying to the money and time to do more classes so I can be better at it.

[@carterdickson6710]

I remember when I was on a sportsball team and kicked a home run. Good times

[@shaquessejones9947]

Bro I came to watch a duel and got a philosophy lesson. I’m to high for this shit

[@Nanaoykj]

Talent is just how much more efficient your effort will pay off

[@Brettlaken]

People that completely deny the existence of talent always annoy me. There are people that spend their entire live dedicated to something, just to get overrun by some random child prodigy. Talent not only gives you a head start but can also determine your maximum skill level and learning speed. In rare cases, innate talent is already greater than the maximum skill of someone else. You should never blame your or someone elses skill on talent, especially if you don't know how much they worked for it but completely neglecting talent is also wrong

[@fisicogamer1902]

It is more about the importance of innate talent. Innate talent will give you some attention, but you have to be skilled at your field of craft(or have a good mentor) to use that attention to your benefit. Gifted kids that ended up jobless and depressed in life are aplenty on the world, exactly because of that. just search for it. Talent helps, but without the skill of thousands of hours of practice is just a path to painful mental illnesses. "Level cap" in skills hardly matters, people give you money when they ask you to do something and you deliver it. As long as it doesn't suck, you get the dough. Innate talent makes the difference only if you want to be the top performer of the world.

[@leonardodiddoro]

The end got me dead

[@Cricetus]

At least the ghosts are consistently drawn

[@JorgeRamirez-qj2rl]

Life lessons with the duel logs

[@PaladinfffLeeroy]

True. Having talent is nice though. The problem with practicing things from my experience is that I am too harsh on myself to the point that I stop enjoying what I am doing. Perfectionism is the enemy of progress.

[@christiancinnabars1402]

Semi-related: The thing I hate the most is the mindset of "I have no talent, so I'm stupid, so I won't even bother doing _." I don't hate the people thinking that, mind you: they were probably berated and mocked possibly their entire life for not immediately becoming a genius on something in a month(or even instantly, first try; I've seen it). I just hate how common and widespread that mindset is. The reason why I think talent is so overhyped by so many people is because those that are "gifted" get catapulted into success by everyone and their mother backing them up. And those that aren't get _actually gatekeep'd_ from progressing any further by people continuously insulting them and cutting them off from all the tools and means to get better. Like, who do you _think_ would succeed between those two? The end result is a massive artifical gap between the "talented" and "untalented." I don't believe that anyone, apart from those who have _literal_ physical barriers between them and it, can't become a genius at something with the _proper_ tools and guidance. Even with barriers, maybe you can't become _the best._ But I've seen a number people get _pretty damn good_ at something despite. And this is coming from someone deemed a "gifted person" by others. Yeah, it's an honor I have to respect, but at the same time it's just sickening seeing so many others who have _so much_ potential being dragged through the mud, be it by themselves, their friends, their family, and/or their teachers, just because they aren't given that same title. Like, you _predetermine_ a select group to succeed, and then wonder why those outside that group don't. Come on.

[@fisicogamer1902]

I agree. Being "the Best" doesn't really matter in 90% of the real life. generally it does matter only if you are an olympic athlete, or something. What you have to be is stable at giving results. "Gifted" people generally output fantastic work upfront, but without years of practice, they will crash and burn in no time. Stability of result guys. Stop trying to be brilliant and start giving results that you can sustain for a long time.

[@themoonlitduelist7395]

Damn, stayed for the story telling

[@b_but_not_2b]

Goddamn! You found a melffy and and a rikka in the same set? I'll trade ya. All I get is stun blue eyes, tri-birdgade, and timelord/burn when I'm in gold. ;-;

[@zethroth0077]

What I figured out is Talent is hard to placed. Because hard work is important, but you also need to be talented to reach that next area. Ima use a basketball example here. Ben Simmons is such a gifted passer and super athletic mans really never practice because he was naturally gifted or talented. But since he was playing with people who wasn’t and some that was gifted (in college) he steam rolled the competition naturally because he was nice. Now in the nba he hasn’t adapted properly than where people wanted him to be and he’s in a bad situation now. But hard work does a lot, but does it really? Robert Covington who was undrafted in the nba because he wasn’t as talented is now a good team defender and helps a team drastically. But why isn’t he better than people like Lebron or Curry or Durant? Because he wasn’t as talented while putting in hard work. So I think talent is still super important if nurtured correctly.

[@Kurial94]

Yugioh master duel is becoming yugioh master class. Notice me senpai log

[@valence7]

I would have never guessed you were good at football lol

[@hachristian9415]

Dude this guy is so smart

[@joysan6689]

Fucking disgaea edit was awesome

[@erlanggahadinata5543]

Hard work can beat talent. but someone who is talented and works hard will be above someone without talent. If you don't have talent, keep trying and don't compare yourself to other people because in the end the talented people will excel. When trying, don't think about being better than other people, but always think about being better than you were yesterday

[@TylerMcVeigh1]

One of the best examples that talent isn't everything is Tom Brady. In terms of measurables, he is arguably the least athletic quarterback in the NFL and has, at best, an above average arm, but he has more Super Bowl wins then any player or any NFL team and holds just about any career stat record a QB would want to own.

[@straightXjessedge]

I'm curious if that other linemen did himself of a disservice by doing all of that extra weightlifting. It seems like he was dedicated, but he was doing the wrong thing to reach his goal. He needed to work on the technical skills rather than weightlifting more. So in addition to talent and drive, there's also knowledge of the necessary skills that needs to be accounted for.

[@Wannabechefguy]

Is Mr. DuelLogs just a Persona protagonist who doesn't max out social links? By making small talk with anyone and becoming friends-ish?

[@rickostern7860]

Me: I finally able to small talk after this 2 years, now lemme small talks with people People who talks to me: *discussing ideas*, *talking about life expirience*, *sociopolitical talks* Me: Where the fuck is the small talks

[@lonk2902]

How one smash commentator put it was at low level talent matters because no one has a lot of practice At mid level talent doesn't matter because the level of practice has far more influence At high and top level talent matters again, because everyone has a ton of practice I'm not sure how accurate this is, as I've never really gone above mid level play myself, but the top 2 players both won tournaments before they were 13, so I think talent does matter a bit there even if both of them did also have really good teachers after this. Basically what I'm trying to say is, talent matters at similar levels of practice, but the rough level of play you are at is more determined by practice.

[@sasosasa8594]

Damn those jojo memes hell yeah

[@scolapastajoeilpittore2974]

Hi, I'm looking for a non-FTK Exodia deck, I'm currently playing a legal version of the first OCG Exodia deck (Sangan/Witch, drawpower and recycling from GY). Tell me about your own version, I need to improve the power of my deck, it's quite slow, evenly I can easily reach 2 pieces in 1 turn. Tell me about a non-FTK deck, I'm quite sick about solitary and also is so inconsistent, just a handtrap and it's gone. I think a non-FTK deck is better, is more interactive and fun.

[@dandomen3584]

Level Resist Wall + Sound The Retreat + Level 7 monster. SHuffle Exodia pieces into deck with Magical mallet. Use Trap Trick.

[@scolapastajoeilpittore2974]

@@dandomen3584 ushhh, lvl resist wall actually would be pretty good to summon Sangan and Witch, also I play Tragoedia, lvl 9, easy summon, that means 2 Sangan and Witch. Ah so you would chain sound with wall in order to return all pieces in your hand, so you need a lvl 7 for the trigger. Trap trick for consistency. That's sound good. A nice play but of course it needs to be protected with called by the grave. GG I don't know about mallet, usually I stock the pieces in hand or GY, or use for costs like One for One. I was building a GK Exodia Deck with the same strategy (GY recycling), in order to prevent banishing from GY effects with Necrovalley, the only problem is that it locks the pieces, so I was trying to summon GK Commander (lvl 5 1900 atk 1200 def), to unlock my GY, but seems pretty much inconsistent. What do you think about? An Egyptian gimmick deck, just for fun.

[@scolapastajoeilpittore2974]

@@dandomen3584 ah wait, so mallet is here to make sure that all pieces are in the deck, in order to reach all pieces with one chain? Also it would be a good card for garnets and bricks. I will rebuild my deck i think, thx a lot Dan!

[@magnusdan4330]

Tsunananannamii

[@fahkyew7776]

I don't really have anything I'm passionate about, so my talents are worthless. Rip

[@WorldOfSafari]

Well, it may be the case that to be good at something you have to learn it for serveral years. There are however people who simply do not have to ability, either personal or economic, to devote so much time into something, even though they would enjoy it. In my opinion, if you can only gain enjoyment out of something if you can do it to a professional level, you do not have a healthy relationship with work/learning. Once you get the feeling that, only if you put more and more hours into X, you are worth something, you are hurting yourself. Even worse however are people who belittle other people because they do not show the same kind of commitment they themsleves show. Example: If you go to a pottery class and make wonderful art pieces and so on and so forth, and the woman next to you has been there as long as you have, and still makes cups and whatnot, if you tell her that she should train harder and takes this more seriously (even though she is a single mom with two children), are you in the right or are you just a self-centered jerk?

[@RadiationLemon]

holy shit disgaea reference

[@Trynil]

All I learned was DL is short and thick.

[@acetraker1988]

*Extremely subjective discussion that doesn't really amount to anything.* TLDR: You can do things, if you can do things, the video. Side Note: While ignorant of vast genetics and many of factors that I can't be arsed to list. Circumstantial events play a bigger role as well that these books or ideas wanna push.

[@OhitsONnow]

Ok this is some real deep stuff people are sharing and it's totally amazing but-w-why is Duellogs a talking moon spider? What years of community jokes am I missing here The NFLogs lol

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

Because crawlers

[@thejimo]

Let's put it that way: talent differentiates hardworking people at the very top level. Almost every nba player has trained extremely diligently at shooting but they will never be as good at Steph Curry.

[@Ragnarok540]

Well, very similar to Mr duel logs, I think I only learned to behave like a normal human being after years of having to work with other people in an office. I started working remotely before the pandemic and while I prefer this way of working in general it really does not help if you want to meet new people...

[@havok9525]

I hate small talk, I'm good at it but it drains me so much idk why lol Also, you could say I'm a "mario" (all rounder) and I kinda dislike it cause even though I'm good or can be good at almost anything, I can't specialize on something, I'm always moving around and can't focus, like I went from drawing circles and sticks to quite complex drawings in like a week but I was just copying an already existing drawing, that's not drawing for me, nothing came from my head,but a friend that was teaching me drew so many cool original drawings that may not be considered "good" but they came from a great imagination. I think I'm just a very good mimic 😅

[@andrewbrian4204]

No offense here but i really didnt think that the duel logs duel logs would be a natural athlete

[@Populon993]

So...having "natural talent" is nice to have to get a headstart. But all you really need is this one thing that you stick to since young ages (either by being pushed by parents or by developing an own interest/ passion some way). If you get past your teens without finding a thing like this...welp, better luck next life.

[@benhensley3621]

Pomu this is good

[@pinos9710]

Man that's sociology not psychology

[@roninzero12]

Talent exists, it's ridiculous and stupid to think everyone can be just as good as anyone else at anything with enough practice.

[@bigtex6571]

is it talent is overrated? it's a good read :-)

[@bigtex6571]

yeah, only talent related book referencing mozart and tiger woods, definitely one of my fav reads considering I wasn't born w a lot of talents

[@Zer0Blizzard]

6:06 That part about evolution not being that fast is _debatable_ at best. There have been a few species that have reevolved into not being extinct, as well as weird things like polar bears mating with grizzly bears (and there are occasionally fertile mules). I think it might be the Breaking Bad News Bears episode from Radiolab, I remember it was a radiolab podcast episode. Your point about sports science immediately afterward negated what I was going to write next, as you pointed out what I was going to write. The other thing that I'd mention is how prevalent human passable bird/pig/cow/mammal diseases are, as well as the new variants of the 2020 youtube filter codeword disease, we get like 3-4 new ones every year, and probably will forever. So evolution _clearly_ works quickly when it comes to certain lifeforms, obviously getting traits inherited on a population scale for humans is different, but not completely so. Clearly fewer people are dying from having terrible eyesight these days, along with the various maladies of disease that would normally kill 33+% of all people.

[@bastihno0]

Im 13 and this is deep

[@aliceyagami8260]

Draws you need try for like 10 years You can doo

[@Maruhodo]

i hate when people use talent thingies to justify their shortcoming or laziness. Back then at school people always saying "it's easy for you because you're talented!" whereas i study and practice day and night sometimes losing sleep just to get to the point where i am comfortable with my craft. i hate the word talent ever since.

[@12Ger13]

You talked a lot on this one. Someone is opening to his audience.