Beyond Good Friday: the future of peace in Northern Ireland

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The Economist

The Economist

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@Yesnoyesno720
@Yesnoyesno720 Жыл бұрын
I visited Belfast last year for the first time. For an outsider as me from Denmark, the conflict was very very visible and tangible every where outside the city central. Great people, as long as you didn't belonged to the wrong group. Shankill Road was scary at night. Went to a bar full of loyalist and they asked me about my affiliation. Right there at that moment I was of course a loyalist until I could get back to the hotel in a cab.
@LeMerch
@LeMerch Жыл бұрын
The strange thing is (as an outside myself), you rarely get asked that in a nationalist/Irish pub. I think its because the tide seems to be changing toward a United Ireland, and there seems to be a defensiveness on the loyalist side.
@patriciabrady72
@patriciabrady72 Жыл бұрын
​@@LeMerchloyalists have always been defensive and have that under seige mentality
@roberthunter4618
@roberthunter4618 Жыл бұрын
Im glad you enjoyed your time in Northern Ireland. If you knew the hisory of all the attrocities that happened to the normal people of the Shankill Rd you would understand that outsiders are rightly questioned.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Should know your king involved benjamin
@MiloManning05
@MiloManning05 Жыл бұрын
@@roberthunter4618 yawn
@123YMR
@123YMR 7 ай бұрын
It wasn’t a religious war, it was a war of culture and identity: British Vs Irish. It was a war, not “troubles”
@Mike_5
@Mike_5 Жыл бұрын
This should be a subject taught at Schools in the UK to fully understand both sides of the issue
@L333gok
@L333gok Жыл бұрын
Neither side is taught. Calm down
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 Жыл бұрын
​@@L333gok Should be thought in British schools.
@AwRighttttt
@AwRighttttt Жыл бұрын
Ireland belongs to the loyal Irish.
@Englishman_and_mountains
@Englishman_and_mountains Жыл бұрын
​@Robert Kelly does Irelands involvement in slavery get taught in Irish schools?
@pedclarkemobile
@pedclarkemobile Жыл бұрын
​@@Englishman_and_mountains St Patrick? Shur he loved it so much he came back to get rid of the shnakes. He missed a few in NE Ulster tho.
@element4element4
@element4element4 Жыл бұрын
I think to understand the conflict, you can't just start from 1921. Some mention of the British ethnic cleansing campaign by kicking out native Irish people and bringing in settlers (also know as Plantations of Ireland/Ulster) seems to be important to understand the roots of the conflict.
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
The Irish also colonised GB.
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 Жыл бұрын
@@noodlyappendage6729 how tf did we colonise britain, who invaded who
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
@@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 Well there’s a reason Scotland is called Scotland..
@johnc7651
@johnc7651 Жыл бұрын
But this is a British newspaper so we can't expect a balanced view.
@GabagoolEnjoyer863
@GabagoolEnjoyer863 Жыл бұрын
​@@noodlyappendage6729 Yeah, the English. The actual Scottish name for the kingdom of Scotland was "Alba", and was formed through the unification of the Pictish and Scots-Gaelic kingdoms. So unlike the British colonisation of Ireland, the Gaels actually unified with the place they settled.
@DD-sr9xm
@DD-sr9xm Жыл бұрын
I love how the UK government is so adamant about respecting the brexit vote as the will of the people, but when NI votes in a a first majority Sinn Fein government, they ignore the vote and do nothing to help seat that government.
@suss23
@suss23 Жыл бұрын
It's more the DUP which has the problem. British government would love to pull out, the only reason they still hold is because of the Protestants living there.
@mels.78926
@mels.78926 Жыл бұрын
Of course, why would they when it essentially was then, like now been thrown into the "conflicting interests" basket.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
First brexit must be enacted before next vote is enacted.
@cerseilannister7283
@cerseilannister7283 Жыл бұрын
It is because almost the 90% of the UK's population belongs to England
@user-se1wj7df9d
@user-se1wj7df9d Жыл бұрын
I’m from NI. Sinn Fein has always refused by their own freewill (and probably will continue) to sit in the HOC, the UK government could do literally everything and SF still would refuse out of principle to work with it. When that happened you have no idea how confused I was about how this will even work.
@tadesubaru1383
@tadesubaru1383 Жыл бұрын
Im from the basque country, an area with a deep history of terrorism, nationalism, oppression and trouble. And young people also romanticise our past while Spain and France treat us like trash. I can feel the pain of the northern irish
@amyjohnson4449
@amyjohnson4449 Жыл бұрын
Your Irelands closest genetic relative!!!
@yodorob
@yodorob 9 ай бұрын
Back during the times of the Troubles, the Basque ETA was allied with the IRA.
@fghezelbash8731
@fghezelbash8731 8 ай бұрын
Basque is NOT a country
@yodorob
@yodorob 8 ай бұрын
@@fghezelbash8731 The Basques do not form their own state (in the sense of issuing passports, being part of the United Nations, etc.), but they have their own country in terms of having their own land where they are the majority inhabitants.
@niallsheehan474
@niallsheehan474 Жыл бұрын
In the eighties I was a young southern Irishman working for an American multinational and I used to read the Economist on flights when traveling the world. I will always remember one edition where the lead article was on Ireland and they used a photo of a group of travelers ( gypsies) to portray the "Irish" on the front cover. Never picked up a copy since and never will.
@stephenconway2468
@stephenconway2468 Жыл бұрын
That was the 1980's.
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 Жыл бұрын
The pictures chosen around the time of the financial crash in 2009 weren’t much better.
@LukeHoareGreene
@LukeHoareGreene Жыл бұрын
I have never ever heard anyone call themselves “southern” Irish, never mind an “Irishman”
@briangallagher7441
@briangallagher7441 Жыл бұрын
Not much has changed, this video is a hit job - an apology for the Unionists, totally one sided and condescending in the extreme to 50% of the north's population
@miliba
@miliba Жыл бұрын
Now you know how Kazakh people felt when Borat used Gypsies in Romania to portray their country
@maginot2u
@maginot2u Жыл бұрын
The situation in NI seems hopeless. Democratic elections were held in May, 2022. Voters turned out, cast their ballets, the results were announced but even now almost a year later, there is no functioning government in NI. The DUP was able to block the formation of a Government because they don't like the election outcome. Is this democracy? NI is still an extremely divided society,
@michaelbuglass5764
@michaelbuglass5764 Жыл бұрын
Well before that they could gerrimander the results
@faded_ink3545
@faded_ink3545 Жыл бұрын
The DUP are the problem
@zerrinak317
@zerrinak317 Жыл бұрын
Sad
@PMMagro
@PMMagro Жыл бұрын
@@funnyflix895 Do not worry, the DUP is doomed.
@Hartley_Hare
@Hartley_Hare Жыл бұрын
@FunnyFlix To whom?
@sharonw2008
@sharonw2008 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone outside of Northern Ireland knows this but for the past few weeks there's been a massive loyalist feud which has resulted in 30 families having to leave NI. It's not because of the troubles, it's because of petty crime and drugs but they are playing on the legacy of the troubles. Roads have been closed, the police standing by just watching thugs run about with guns in broad daylight, families terrorised, the whole community put at risk and yet nothing has been done about it other than watch and wait. This is what is still going on here.
@johnwilson5637
@johnwilson5637 Жыл бұрын
The petty crime and drugs have 'always' been there. The 'Troubles' were used to cover the criminal activities of both sides. How many, I wonder, killings were down to gang fights etc rather than sectarianism?
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you , it was and is a cover for criminal activity , I was told this about 40 years ago ,
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 Жыл бұрын
That's not to say the crime is in the north alone ,
@BarriosGroupie
@BarriosGroupie Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, and I'm not surprised: Obsessive 'Loyalists' tend to come from broken homes and families so use their British identity to attach themselves to a 'community'. But they're so socially dysfunctional that they end up attacking one another over social resources whereas people from strong families don't have this problem so much.
@DefaultName-ld1xn
@DefaultName-ld1xn Жыл бұрын
Is this in newtownards?
@jasonquigley2633
@jasonquigley2633 Жыл бұрын
As an Irishman, I've a feeling that the Dail in Dublin will pay more attention to the problems in Northern Ireland, and fixing them, then Parliament in London ever has. London is a world away,people there barely realise Northern Ireland exists, while Dublin is just a 2 hour drive from Belfast (there are people that commute daily between the two).
@A.D.540
@A.D.540 Жыл бұрын
I hope peace for all Irish 🍀 ❤ people 🙏 long us humanity excist.
@jaber5345
@jaber5345 Жыл бұрын
☘️ Three leaf clover is correct
@shutthefuckupstudios
@shutthefuckupstudios Жыл бұрын
​@@dabrams84 the holy trinity
@stiofain88
@stiofain88 Жыл бұрын
​@@dabrams84 I'm not there's such a thing as a three leaf clover. It's just a four leaf one. A shamrock has three and as above it was chosen to represent the holy trinity.
@ChocoSapper
@ChocoSapper 10 ай бұрын
If you want to know how the Irish feel about a British free Ireland, look at our support of the Palestinians and their support of us.
@belfasta
@belfasta Жыл бұрын
I'm from a loyalist background and am sick and tired of the dup I would have no hesitation voting for a United Ireland it's the final solution to peace
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
Haha. Yeah right.
@starofdavid9919
@starofdavid9919 Жыл бұрын
Real shame there is not a lot more right thinking people like yourself in NI.
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 Жыл бұрын
well said as a republican myself a new ireland is going to need thousands like you🤝
@belfasta
@belfasta Жыл бұрын
@@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 I'm not alone believe me
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 Жыл бұрын
@@belfasta i hope you’re right man because we’re going to need people from a unionist background to show the rest that partition has failed both of our communities
@mikedee171
@mikedee171 Жыл бұрын
The problem in Northern Ireland is that certain elements of the unionist community, ie the DUP and TUV, don’t want/can’t accept a nationalist party as the dominant force. Brexit doesn’t help, as they can’t square that circle.
@MolloyPolloy
@MolloyPolloy Жыл бұрын
Also the DUP are basically told what to do by loyalist drug dealers.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
You forget they can't accept a terrorist supporting mainly
@faded_ink3545
@faded_ink3545 Жыл бұрын
Dead right
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Republican Propaghanda view
@minnietoby
@minnietoby Жыл бұрын
@@joprocter4573 it’s the truth not propaganda
@marydonohoe8200
@marydonohoe8200 Жыл бұрын
The children are the key. They are the future. Integrated public schools instead of private parochial ones may be of significant help. To some extent kids will hook up with those they know from their neighborhoods or from church. But they will come to see each other as equals and not as “other.” Integrated after-school sports are especially important, and it was great to see that basketball program in the video! Great history and present-day update! Thank you, Economist!
@shep9231
@shep9231 Жыл бұрын
Indeed sir. That was how the US did it back in the fifties and sixties.
@themadfarmer5207
@themadfarmer5207 Жыл бұрын
Integrated schools are not entirely critical. There are still segregated schools in Irish Rep and the citizens live comfortably together post school in employment and socially in mutual respect and co operation. The Protestant population is closely interwoven in Irish Republic society that they contribute to cornerstones of the comunity
@rocarolan2003
@rocarolan2003 Жыл бұрын
MI5 accessing the terror threat. That's funny concidering they inflicted most of it. 😅
@wodens-hitman1552
@wodens-hitman1552 Жыл бұрын
How Einstein?
@rocarolan2003
@rocarolan2003 Жыл бұрын
@@wodens-hitman1552 they controlled the majority of loyalist paramilitaries. Along with a special branch and the UDR. Read "Lethal Allies" by Anne Cadwallader. Basically most loyalist s were under the pay of British intelligence.
@tracy8056
@tracy8056 Жыл бұрын
And infiltrated most of it!
@Herewegoagain-tw8mb
@Herewegoagain-tw8mb Жыл бұрын
​@@wodens-hitman1552 by having links with the UDA/UVF, terrorising innocent families. Read a history you might learn something.
@ciaranmac8689
@ciaranmac8689 Жыл бұрын
​​@Woden's hitman are you serious idiot they do that all over the World.
@Dreyno
@Dreyno Жыл бұрын
Sam McBride wears many hats. Just note, when he writes about Northern Ireland in the Economist, he’s also editor of the News Letter, a heavily unionist newspaper. Nothing wrong with that but Economist readers should be aware of his bias.
@crw45able
@crw45able Жыл бұрын
He's pretty balanced and will criticise the DUP as much as anyone. He wrote his book about RHI.
@ryancrory7030
@ryancrory7030 Жыл бұрын
He isn't the editor of the Newsletter. That's Ben Lowry. Sam is the Northern Ireland editor of the Bel Tel.
@theninjalion2811
@theninjalion2811 Жыл бұрын
​@@ryancrory7030 which is still a Unionist newspaper
@Dreyno
@Dreyno Жыл бұрын
@@ryancrory7030 He was the political editor of the News Letter until recently. I hadn’t heard he’s left it to join the Bel Tel exclusively. The point still stands.
@WeAreThePeople1690
@WeAreThePeople1690 Жыл бұрын
And the Alliance parties MLA who appears? What about her Republican sympathies. Should they be aware of those too? And those of the party in general, supposed to be cross community, yet they are Sein Feins mouthpiece, when they don't want to appear on certain shows, for example. I mean, why buy a dog, and bark yourself 😉
@horuslupercal9936
@horuslupercal9936 Жыл бұрын
I was there on holiday in 1994. So much positive change has occurred since then, it would be a crime to throw it all away.
@laurecrp8751
@laurecrp8751 Жыл бұрын
I lived 2,5years in England and met many Irish people, I also saw them during the Euro 2016 (they even received a medal of the best supporters from the Maire of Paris) they put an ambiance like no other country did it’s heartbreaking to see thoses amazing people having to endure this Love from France, be strong❤
@andyjel4632
@andyjel4632 Жыл бұрын
Northern Irish
@Pete-xs7in
@Pete-xs7in Жыл бұрын
You never seen any Irish at euro 2016 they didn't qualify
@adammurnin9284
@adammurnin9284 Жыл бұрын
Aye cause Ireland was there too
@jdfiend
@jdfiend 11 ай бұрын
Endure what ?
@williamkennedy2902
@williamkennedy2902 Жыл бұрын
I hope and pray I see a united Ireland in next few years.
@kurtpunchesthings2411
@kurtpunchesthings2411 Жыл бұрын
i do to but i am also happy to wait another 50 years if that is what it takes because realistically we get 1 shot and 1 shot only to win a Border Poll better make it count
@Bond047
@Bond047 Жыл бұрын
Ireland deserves Independence....
@johntate131
@johntate131 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I hope and pray that the unionist English Protestant mud blood oppressors get what they deserve….a piece of lead in their head. Oppressors don’t deserve peace
@liamcassidy5992
@liamcassidy5992 Жыл бұрын
Me too but I’d rather have it in the distant future if more bloodshed can be avoided that way
@rhyancudor
@rhyancudor Жыл бұрын
same, 1921 was indeed a mistake and i do pray that we rejoin the UK
@faresgh6820
@faresgh6820 Жыл бұрын
For those perhaps interested in learning more about "The Troubles", I recommend the outstanding book "Say Nothing".
@maccesandholm
@maccesandholm Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is an interesting book
@Hemingway308
@Hemingway308 4 ай бұрын
As a Celtic American, who happens to be Catholic.I just want to say I want peace between everyone I understand that this is very much a political dispute but I respect the protestants and I respect the Catholics.I just want peace
@edgardebruin8398
@edgardebruin8398 Жыл бұрын
boris Johnson lied
@SkepticalTeacher
@SkepticalTeacher Жыл бұрын
And water is wet!
@johnhollyoak9295
@johnhollyoak9295 Жыл бұрын
You don’t say?😯
@marcphelan
@marcphelan 11 ай бұрын
We can not forget that the agreement says that Northen Ireland is British until a majority of people vote to be Irish. We are getting realy close.
@noelter
@noelter Жыл бұрын
When unionist go on about bringing a hard brexit in, they have to realise the act of union 1800 was brought in by a minority and which never give the majority of Irish people the right to vote on it. Just like the gerrymandering vote that brought in the act of union, petition of Ireland was brought in the same way. The democratic vote was stamped on by the English government, now making the petition a English problem in Ireland; which stop the pro-british unionist moving to England. If you look back in history it was always a English government brought in religion resentment into the control of Ireland, Irish republicans were the first ones to break the mold by uniting the people in 1798 they called themselves the United Irishmen. The act of union 1800 came into power on 1 January 1801 by English landlords who fear lossing control.
@colors6692
@colors6692 Жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland should become it's own country so the people will stop taking sides and be on their OWN side!
@AnabolicSaagAloo
@AnabolicSaagAloo Жыл бұрын
@@colors6692 That'll never happen. Anyone with a base knowledge of Northern Ireland would laugh at that suggestion
@alelectric2767
@alelectric2767 Жыл бұрын
@@colors6692 The Northern Irish side is on the other side of the sea.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
They simply need to see soveigntry is still in place.. No country treats is citizens so UN-EQUAL.. SUNAK got his big pay out.. EU wouldn't give money owed unless they shut NI up but they played with a nation that is loyal to crown.. So journey is not going to get easier for UK EU USA
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
@@colors6692 tax haven
@NickMACK1473
@NickMACK1473 Жыл бұрын
watching from Grenada in the caribbean
@BreadAccountant
@BreadAccountant Жыл бұрын
What's life like over there? Greetings from the Republic of Ireland
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Why politically did GRENADA HAVE CRISIS few years ago??
@LordDim1
@LordDim1 Жыл бұрын
What are the chances, another Grenadian here
@AwRighttttt
@AwRighttttt Жыл бұрын
Who cares
@AwRighttttt
@AwRighttttt Жыл бұрын
Monk.. E
@jamesmccaul8002
@jamesmccaul8002 Жыл бұрын
No mention of Mo Mowlam, the true architect of peace in NI? Please edit and give her the appropriate credit that the Northern Irish give her for ceating peace by speaking to everyone, without conditions.
@Richard-gp5tg
@Richard-gp5tg Жыл бұрын
It is time for the British to go. They have been unhelpful since the Agreement.
@adrianwalker2833
@adrianwalker2833 Жыл бұрын
What is the point of anti-British sentiment and Irish reunification - if you let hundreds of thousands of immigrants into Ireland?
@bobsmith3291
@bobsmith3291 7 ай бұрын
Have they not been unhelpful from the start?😂
@jackietreehorn5561
@jackietreehorn5561 7 ай бұрын
​@@bobsmith3291difference is migrants now which is out of hand don't have rifles and helmets
@mrt2215
@mrt2215 Жыл бұрын
Let's hope the Alliance Party get those reforms through and let's get on with governing this land. I have a feeling that once they do, more and more (young) people will start engaging in politics again. Enough is enough, we don't want to be ruled or depend upon two extremist parties to have to be the ruling parties here. Northern Ireland and our people have so much potential. Having travelled and lived abroad a lot, I have come to realise how much we have going for us. Thanks to the GFA and the peace it provided us, a new generation has grown up not really or experiencing the worst of the troubles. However, it is no longer fit for purpose and feels outdated. The political quagmires the province finds itself (repeatedly) in, illustrates this. We, the people, deserve better than the status quo. This generation is ready for change and to push forward with a reformed GFA that benefits all people. One that pushes us ALL forward together, providing us with even better opportunities to want to stay here (and come back here) to build a better country.
@kumasenlac5504
@kumasenlac5504 Жыл бұрын
As long as people whose forebears have lived in Ulster for centuries are regarded as 'other' by their neighbours, and by many citizens of Eire, I fear such hopes as are expressed above are forlorn.
@georgebrowne5935
@georgebrowne5935 Жыл бұрын
British Colonialism is a long gone . Everyone is Irish now, even if some can't accept it to themselves. This is the flaw in Unionism today.
@curlitlikecurley6604
@curlitlikecurley6604 Жыл бұрын
NI are kinda lucky they get to be Irish and British
@georgebrowne5935
@georgebrowne5935 Жыл бұрын
@curlitlikecurley6604 This is where the nonsense exists. They are Irish Born and bred in reality with Scottish/English Ancestry. They are Irish Born People loyal to Westminster, that couldn't give a toss about them, including the Monarchy. But of course it's all about holding on to Power, and the English Tax Payers purse.
@tobehonest7541
@tobehonest7541 Жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland belongs to Ireland
@philreap
@philreap Жыл бұрын
The best way to assure peace is for the colonial oppressors to withdraw. How is that complicated?
@adrianwalker2833
@adrianwalker2833 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, given the current rate of influx of foreigners into Ireland, Irish reunification will be the least of your problems.
@JacksonGreenhorn
@JacksonGreenhorn Жыл бұрын
Who introduced 'sectarianism' to Ireland? Who created the border between |Ireland and N.Ireland? Who has interfered with over 62 countries throughout the world? UK Government?
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
With help from the Irish.
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
@@bobsmith5441 Who introduced sectarianism to Ireland? I don’t know? Sectarianism existed in Ireland before England even existed. To think otherwise is naive. Who created the border? The UK government with help from the Irish. Who interfered with 62 countries around the world? I don’t know? Possibly the UK with help from the Irish seeing as the Irish made up a large proportion of HM Armed Forces. The Irish certainly played a large role in fighting the Boers in Southern Africa.
@cian434
@cian434 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@noodlyappendage6729what do you mean with help from the Irish. Of course there were Irish serving in the British army but it was extremely frowned upon by their community. There were also other ethnicities in the British army such as Indian people, were they also complicit in colonialism. And Irish people did fight in the Boer war, overwhelmingly against the British.
@antonralph6947
@antonralph6947 Жыл бұрын
Ireland needs to be united. Only a united ireland will bring a lasting peace. Partition hasn't worked. Catholic, protestant , Dissenter, Anglicans, Unionists, and Nationalist.
@darkgalaxy5548
@darkgalaxy5548 Жыл бұрын
Well, what about Ireland rejoining the UK?
@jungleboots769
@jungleboots769 Жыл бұрын
The Economist Newspaper Limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of The Economist Group. Sir Evelyn Robert de Rothschild was Chairman of the company from 1972 to 1989. Although The Economist has a global emphasis and scope, about two-thirds of the 75 staff journalists are based in the London borough of Westminster.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 Жыл бұрын
So
@paulduffy4585
@paulduffy4585 Жыл бұрын
Rothschild's of London was a huge contributor to Irish famine relief in the 1840s. So I wouldn't necessarily assume a bias.
@sandrathompson1277
@sandrathompson1277 Жыл бұрын
There’s no snob like like an English snob
@mariavergara3657
@mariavergara3657 Жыл бұрын
PEACE AND LOVE , BROTHERS ....FROM ARGENTINA .
@MomMom4Cubs
@MomMom4Cubs Жыл бұрын
Though I don't have a dog in the fight, I really hope the Northern Irish, all the Northern Irish, make out well. Not for Britain, or the Republic of Ireland, but for yourselves. Lord knows you deserve your hard-won peace, and increased prosperity and fulfillment of your potential! Happy Easter!
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
What a respectful remark to all
@sandrathompson1277
@sandrathompson1277 Жыл бұрын
The northern Irish….are English
@callumoleary6645
@callumoleary6645 Жыл бұрын
Mainly Scottish
@sandrathompson1277
@sandrathompson1277 Жыл бұрын
@@callumoleary6645 thanks Callum…thought most of the northerners were of English origins..either way it will not help the situation
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
@@sandrathompson1277 NO THEY MIXED HERITAGE.. NOT IRISH... NOT ENGLISH... NOT SCOTS OR WELSH..
@yvonnefarrell1029
@yvonnefarrell1029 Жыл бұрын
Yes sending you Maundy Thursday prayers from across the Pond and yes we've got Irish ancestry. Decades ago we had friends from Belfast and were appalled at the tension, the constant tension, under wwhich they lived. Thank you for this report.
@wodens-hitman1552
@wodens-hitman1552 Жыл бұрын
You've all got irish ancestry until the next vikings series comes out and then you're Scandinavian
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
@@wodens-hitman1552😂
@themaskedman221
@themaskedman221 Жыл бұрын
@@wodens-hitman1552 It really is a game of make believe over here 🤣🤣🤣
@flaviopitanga65
@flaviopitanga65 Жыл бұрын
Ireland must be United once and for all and end this madness
@koeman1873
@koeman1873 Жыл бұрын
Shows just how much you know if you think that will work.
@stepoutskz
@stepoutskz Жыл бұрын
Tbh as a foreigner, I find it extremely difficult to understand the whole thing but I find it really weird as well like Ireland was under British occupation for 800 years, people suffered there just for being Irish and Catholic, the plantation happened who most of them were Scottish Protestants but at the same time I find it so weird like just because Scottish and Scotland comes from the word Scotti who were a Gaelic Irish immigrants that moved from Ireland to Scotland. I mean Ireland and Scotland are very close in a cultural way and it’s mostly and probably likely that many Scottish people have Irish DNA somewhere so the fact some people in Northern Ireland feel “proud to be British” because of these Scottish planters is just so weird to me. After 800 years the Irish fought for their freedom and I just can’t understand how some people preferred to remain in the UK after everything the whole island of Ireland went through because of them? I just can’t simply understand it On the other side, it’s actually really sad this is happening, there is still so much division and people deserve peace but it’s difficult when the UK government, the country some people claim to be proud of, are leaving the people of Northern Ireland behind, like if Norn Iron didn’t mattered, it’s really sad to see this
@WjfhdhShshshsh
@WjfhdhShshshsh 8 ай бұрын
We are Irish that's what ney don't like .they look at us as subhuman and call us n*ggers like we aren't whiter than them
@ATLmodK
@ATLmodK Жыл бұрын
It is extremely infuriating that the DUP seems to prefer anarchy to picking a Deputy First Minister. What is the gain here
@BreadAccountant
@BreadAccountant Жыл бұрын
I think they know that if government is suspended long enough then London takes control
@Endless_Horizons2007
@Endless_Horizons2007 Жыл бұрын
The comforting delusion that they are better than everyone else because they latch on to a version of the UK that doesn't exist anymore.
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
What anarchy? Northern Ireland is a part of the UK and controlled from Westminster. It is also under the Crown. That’s the opposite of anarchy. SF don’t want to turn up to Westminster. Nobody says anything. DUP don’t turn up to Stormont and their called dinosaurs. 🙄
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
@@Endless_Horizons2007 Oh and Republicans don’t latch on to their romantic view of a Gaelic Ireland? 🙄 Unionists want to remain apart of the UK because they see themselves as British. The UK is their country. It’s their default position. Why would you expect anything else?
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Kathryn... One must first know whose country is being governed by... Whatever you say will not change fact that is UNCLEAR.. why would you work hard for your brother to give your share to someone else (country) however before leadership vote the previous one was troubling not one year but many. Unionist need to know why not equal to follow UK citizens.. INFACT republicans should demand if not for themselves for their co partners.. Brexit overall vote has not happened yet. Yes yes ppl want to worry about xyz but if Russia took us over tomarrow are you going to vichy with them...
@rebelmouth9349
@rebelmouth9349 Жыл бұрын
Was thinking a lot about this in the context of Ukraine. I wonder how it feels as in Irishman to be sending your taxes to places that are fighting against imperialism, while your leads talk about how that nation deserves their sovereignty and recognizes their unique identity.
@gallowglass2630
@gallowglass2630 Жыл бұрын
Presumably you mean Northern Irish people,because in the republic to be perfectly honest we in the republic only care about our part of the island which celebrates 100 years of independence the fact nearly a quarter of a million who regard themselves as irish are denied the self determination that we enjoy is of total disinterest.Its a view i don't agree with however that sadly is the view of a great number down south.Which is why irish nationalists feel greatly betrayed by us down here in the republic and i can't blame them we have left them to the wolves ober the course of 100 years.
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658
@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 Жыл бұрын
@@gallowglass2630 stop feeling sorry for us northern nationalists and actually pressure the free state government into establishing an all ireland citizens assembly to actually plan for irish unity
@englishalan222
@englishalan222 Жыл бұрын
Which is imperialism?
@pauls.2526
@pauls.2526 10 ай бұрын
I am Irish from the republic and I always wanted a united Ireland 🇮🇪 since I was a small child.
@sandrathompson1277
@sandrathompson1277 Жыл бұрын
If they want to be English…why do they not live there? All these lives lost over being patriotic about a country they do not live in…..
@presterconst4757
@presterconst4757 10 ай бұрын
As a Christian living in predominantely Muslim country called Indonesia..I am hard to digest this reality..since even Catholic can even borrow our churches..as.license to build a church is as hard as getting license of a pub.
@jonathaneves
@jonathaneves Жыл бұрын
Thank you...excellent
@saxon1376
@saxon1376 Жыл бұрын
Most people in this comment section are Americans who have never even been to Ireland
@PXWest
@PXWest 7 ай бұрын
The youth are the future for Northern Ireland! Hopefully lasting peace will come soon!
@evelynmccabe3855
@evelynmccabe3855 Жыл бұрын
An uncle of mine as an outsider used to say he always said he was a protestant in a loyalist area and in a nationalist area he was a Catholic.. ofcourse he would not be there for very long. Be aware that people do have ways of finding out even if they don't ask you direct. Its mostly in urban areas (Belfast a high wall still dividing the Protestant estate from the Catholic estate) that this hatred exists as there are very mixed areas in rural areas in N Ireland where Catholics and Protestants get on very well and have done so all during the troubles.
@WeAreThePeople1690
@WeAreThePeople1690 Жыл бұрын
3 places in Northern Ireland that still have peace walls, Belfast, Londonderry, Portadown. The third one will probably be shortened soon, Dennys land is valuable after all. That will be another excuse to attack the local protestants once its gone. I wonder which side will have the entrance to what evers built!!
@nother_hed
@nother_hed 2 ай бұрын
Still hoping for a united ireland
@mcdronzy
@mcdronzy Жыл бұрын
UK always brings troubles everywhere they go...
@wendyb4405
@wendyb4405 Жыл бұрын
You mean the politicians surely.....as it ain't the people on the street
@redbike6340
@redbike6340 Жыл бұрын
🇬🇧🇮🇪 Love thy neighbour 🙏❤️
@peacehope7365
@peacehope7365 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Whomsoever they may be. Very best wishes to you, my fellow lover of peace 🕊️❤
@apax2901
@apax2901 Жыл бұрын
The conflict did not start in the 60s.. it started 800 years ago. Root cause was social, political, religious and legal oppression of Irish people by the crown. Been to Belfast just this week and honestly.. walking around neighbourhoods at night after the Gates close is an experience you can’t witness anywhere else. Especially Shankill and Falls Road.. graffiti and murals telling stories on every corner. the residents are usually very neutral and even welcoming towards tourists (at least the catholics were) I recommend everyone visiting Belfast to actually dare themselves out of the City centre and Titanic area into the outskirts and witness actual Belfast. Absolutely tragic and depressing town
@fuckboi_killa
@fuckboi_killa Жыл бұрын
Keep it up lads Remember 32=1
@engy6592
@engy6592 Жыл бұрын
The future is reunification.
@devtank
@devtank Жыл бұрын
Saddens me greatly. However, I am forced to understand that the parameters the GFA were written under, were, pretty much, designed specifically in the temperament of the day, and the reality that divides would run the way they had previously. Hover things change, and a new GFA needs to the drawn up and discussed. The old one doesn't fit the new landscape. And given what we've learned, from this time period, the new agreement, should either be drawn up with a shorter time frame, or something else needs to be devised. I spent time in Belftast in the early 90s as part of a cross boarder education drive, to get kids (10-16 yo's) to work together on a host of things, mine was filmmaking and TV documentary production. The one thing that really struck me was how easy it was for me to get the kids to see the folly of it all.
@keithgreen9009
@keithgreen9009 11 ай бұрын
The bitterness will always stop a peaceful way forward.
@ck1643
@ck1643 Жыл бұрын
It just boils down to the fact that the DUP and TUV and other loyalist mouthpieces can't accept that there is only one direction of travel.....a new united Ireland. The last census has shown that unionism is in the minority and nationalism is the majority and anything that is deemed to be irish such as the Irish language and GAA are treated with disdain and digust when the actual fact is that both of these things belong to every single person who lives on this island
@adrianwalker2833
@adrianwalker2833 Жыл бұрын
First of all: what is the use of Irish unification - if the day after, all your rights are given up to the European Union? And secondly, with the current influx of migrants into the Republic of Ireland, I fear a "new united Ireland" is the least of your problems.
@ck1643
@ck1643 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianwalker2833 rights given up how? If anything more rights protections will be gained and it means that ireland as a whole will be part of the most prestigious trading partnership in the world....visa free travel, more choice in terms of study work and travel not to mention lucrative foreign direct investment who want access to EU markets ....yes as far as I can see rights are certainly eroded by EU membership 🤔
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 Жыл бұрын
​@@adrianwalker2833 EU you don't give up rights misguided ignorance and borderline racist.
@jooseppielleese7156
@jooseppielleese7156 Жыл бұрын
​@@adrianwalker2833 the migrants aren't from the EU. Why do you think Rishi Sunak will care about keeping Britian white lol. That's what you're getting at.
@anniegrath1417
@anniegrath1417 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianwalker2833 don’t you have your own mammoth problems with migrants coming into your ports still?? The non EU ones?
@lunainezdelamancha3368
@lunainezdelamancha3368 5 ай бұрын
Well.... I guess I will never get to know Ireland... neither Northern nor Southern for I don't think it's safe. So sad really. Nothing has changed!!
@Nemo59646
@Nemo59646 Жыл бұрын
Love to Northern Ireland and its people, especially the children and youth.
@cynicalb
@cynicalb Жыл бұрын
lets face it if the DUP don't get their way they throw their toy's out of the pram,
@arthurbridenstine225
@arthurbridenstine225 Жыл бұрын
There is peace without reconcilitation. Both sides are deeply traumatized. Grief needs to be acknowledged and then the process of forgiveness can begin.
@roberthunter4618
@roberthunter4618 Жыл бұрын
Sinn Fein still glorify their past terrorists.
@stephenconway2468
@stephenconway2468 Жыл бұрын
That process started, but now schools need to be desegregated and the community too.
@sollte1239
@sollte1239 Жыл бұрын
That's not the issue
@stiofain88
@stiofain88 Жыл бұрын
​@@roberthunter4618 Unionists parties glorify the UVF's past and actually still represent them through the LCC.
@barryb90
@barryb90 Жыл бұрын
​@@stephenconway2468 100% Stephen. I've already witnessed most in only one generation after the GFA, the distain for conflict. The hatred is mostly being kept alive by the likes of the Orange Order. Schools need to be desegregated, the vast majority will find out that people from the other background aren't the boogie man they were thought.
@yveslacascade469
@yveslacascade469 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic report. Thanks!!
@panthir6720
@panthir6720 Жыл бұрын
Best way to keep the peace is for a United ireland
@garageliddiard8420
@garageliddiard8420 Жыл бұрын
You can’t have a United Ireland if you don’t have a United Northern Ireland first.
@cubethelad8394
@cubethelad8394 Жыл бұрын
@@garageliddiard8420 well said, I'm completely nationalist but I fear NI is far too divided
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
Best way to keep the peace is to stop agitating. Northern Ireland wants to remain in the UK.
@RandomBloke007
@RandomBloke007 Жыл бұрын
Yes, within the UK
@panthir6720
@panthir6720 Жыл бұрын
@@noodlyappendage6729 you got proof?
@noeonoohno4219
@noeonoohno4219 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how happy these Economist types about the GFA because it makes "glass buildings in the city centre". The people of NI don't benefit from financialisation and safe conditions for capitalism.
@jackietreehorn5561
@jackietreehorn5561 7 ай бұрын
Do you remember Belfast before European funding? It's transformed the city
@Jormangunder
@Jormangunder Жыл бұрын
I hope Ireland 🇮🇪 can fully throw off the yoke of British imperialism and stand united as a socialist republic working for the Irish people.
@wodens-hitman1552
@wodens-hitman1552 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully all those tens of thousands of Irish taking our jobs in England will give them back ?
@thesecondsilvereich7828
@thesecondsilvereich7828 Жыл бұрын
White Irish minority by 2050
@adrianwalker2833
@adrianwalker2833 Жыл бұрын
Does "the Irish people" include those hundreds of thousands of migrants as well? You're stuck in the past.
@sl_721
@sl_721 Жыл бұрын
Socialism 🤢
@jooseppielleese7156
@jooseppielleese7156 Жыл бұрын
Socialist ruined the IRA much like the Anarchists ruined spainish Republicanism
@kieranmccrory3960
@kieranmccrory3960 11 ай бұрын
Peace to the people of Ireland , north and south ✌️🙏
@Anonymous-vr6ph
@Anonymous-vr6ph Жыл бұрын
Retreat of the British from Ireland. That’s the only way. Everyone’s talking about Ukraines freedom for self determination and sovereignty but they still look away if it’s about a matter in the west. Ireland has the same rights Ukraine has and Northern Ireland is a part of Ireland just as much as crimea of Ukraine. The only difference is that Ireland and Britain are in the west and Ukraine and Russia in the east…
@adssadassssdsa3582
@adssadassssdsa3582 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that´s complicated as in both cases you got there long established community´s that maybe want different things from Ireland or Ukraine so the right thing kinda would seem to do a referendum. Your kinda not supposed to just overrule a minority as especially when they are there long established as that´s kinda how you provoke ethnic or religious tensions and violence. While also forced population movements usually are called ethnic cleansing and kinda not great for international relations and i don´t think Ireland get´s to do this in the EU.
@Anonymous-vr6ph
@Anonymous-vr6ph Жыл бұрын
@@adssadassssdsa3582 But it’s not about erasing any culture or established community’s. It’s about the fact that Northern Ireland doesn’t belong to Britain. It’s Irish and the only reason it’s controlled by the British is because they forced their colonial rule upon them and oppressed them for centuries. There is no other way to take than the end of British rule.
@matthew1882
@matthew1882 Жыл бұрын
​@@Anonymous-vr6ph kind of like the entire history of the United States. I guess the American union should be dissolved and all that land handed back to Native Americans.
@laimingwong4166
@laimingwong4166 Жыл бұрын
Sinn Finn 'won' the assembly election and its leader vowed a United Ireland would shortly become a reality. That fueled the unease and definitely alarmed the always wary Protestant population.
@blueishxx
@blueishxx Жыл бұрын
America is crazy with irrational divisiveness but this intractable conflict is just next level crazy and irrational I was working in England and left in 1997 and just couldn't grasp the complexities of this situation it just seems mind boggling that it's still this broken tbh I could never grasp why all of Ireland wasn't united it just seemed so simple and obvious
@AnthonyD-yy2in
@AnthonyD-yy2in Жыл бұрын
It's real simple really. It is the North of Ireland and always has been. A united Ireland is the only solution for all this conflict to slowly come to an end once and for all. Irish people, both catholic and protestant simply can not keep dodging that very simple fact.
@someirishguy1662
@someirishguy1662 Жыл бұрын
At the time Belfast was an economic powerhouse due to ship building/breaking, and historically a lot of protestants there that didnt want to leave the UK.
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 Жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyD-yy2in It`s not simple at all. For starters, not one single political figure from the Irish republic has even come close to providing a roadmap for peacefully integrating a million Unionists into its population without triggering serious unrest. Or let me guess, you think they should all move to the mainland? You also fail to realise that most of the NI economy depends on remaining part of the UK and its current model cannot be duplicated as part of a united Ireland due to the massive subsidisation of its public sector by the Barnett Formula. The current autonomy that NI enjoys as part of the UK cannot be duplicated either due to the Irish republic`s system of governance. The Unionists won`t simply stand by while Dublin turns NI into an underfunded provincial backwater, they will wage political and quite possibly paramilitary guerrilla warfare in order to turn NI into a security nightmare in the same way republicans did during the 1970s and 80s except that in this scenario the Irish government won`t have the considerable resources their British counterparts did to contain it. Finally, you appear to think this is still about religion. It isn`t and hasn`t been for many years. It`s about nationality and the fastest growing demographic by far in NI are those who subscribe to a separate Northern Irish identity, neither British or Irish. If this trend continues then it`s far more likely that NI will become a completely independent entity.
@illogicalslayer9856
@illogicalslayer9856 Жыл бұрын
@@justonecornetto80 If the unionists can't live in a United Ireland due to them identifying with Britain let them go to Britain.
@justonecornetto80
@justonecornetto80 Жыл бұрын
@@illogicalslayer9856 Try telling that to the UVF and UDA. I suspect you won`t get the response you`re hoping for.
@andrewwright.
@andrewwright. Жыл бұрын
10nyears and no government....but let me ask you ...where is the money going? it hasn't stopped so where is it??
@maureenmckenna5220
@maureenmckenna5220 Жыл бұрын
This was a difficult and hard won peace. The memories do not go away because of a signed piece of paper. Nor, does a culture of fear and separation, not when there are people who have vivid memories of friends and family being killed during the “Troubles”. Northern Ireland currently has more Catholics than Protestants, never an intended consequence of division, and this alone, is telling for the future of Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland was settled, deliberately by the British, by Calvinist Protestants in the 17th century, mostly from Scotland. The Republic of Ireland was settled mostly by Anglican British, a completely different sect of Protestantism. After WW I, when the Republic of Ireland was created, and divided, it was thought that the northern counties would eventually be absorbed into the Republic of Ireland. But, it ended up being a larger area than planned, and four of the counties were largely Catholic, the enemy within, so to speak. Northern Ireland also enacted repressive laws and regimes against the Catholic population, which only enflamed the divide and divisions, resulting in an almost thirty year long war. Finally, we have Brexit, which has moved Northern Ireland out of the European sphere, and the Republic of Ireland into it. How will this impact the future of this tenuous relationship, where memories are long and divisions strong? Hopefully, the peace holds. They very well know the impact of war and all the horror, loss and sadness that it brings, along with economic stagnation. Eventually, in the far or near future, Ireland will probably be reunited as one country. Let us hope that whatever the future holds, it is along a path of peace.
@lauraatkinson8920
@lauraatkinson8920 Жыл бұрын
Pray for peace in Ni 😢
@sourabhpatil23945
@sourabhpatil23945 Жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland should be free, they should get their freedom, why did the UK occupy it?
@TheRaidoRune
@TheRaidoRune Жыл бұрын
Sure.
@LeMerch
@LeMerch Жыл бұрын
It colonised Ireland and based a lot of its loyalist planters in the northern part of the island to try exert control from it. The Irish battled the British off the island but centuries of loyalist generations left a large population of them in the north who threatened violence if they were to stay in an independent Ireland. So the British Government decided to strong-arm Dublin during negotiations and said if Dublin doesn't decide to leave the north with the UK, the British would leave the negotiation table and go back to war. This was a bluff, but Dublin knew it wasn't able to go back to war as it was now depleted after the initial war of independence. So it agreed. Sadly, I wish Dublin called Londons bluff and maybe.. just maybe London would have said 'ok, take it'.
@TheRaidoRune
@TheRaidoRune Жыл бұрын
@@LeMerch It's a question of choosing shame or war and ya'all know how it goes...
@BreadAccountant
@BreadAccountant Жыл бұрын
​@@LeMerch Whats the evidence that it was a bluff? I don't think we can know that
@thesecondsilvereich7828
@thesecondsilvereich7828 Жыл бұрын
Oliver Cromwell moved a lot of protestants from Scotland to northern ireland to protestantism the area in the 1600s
@fuckboi_killa
@fuckboi_killa Жыл бұрын
Great doco m8s
@PMMagro
@PMMagro Жыл бұрын
How in the world could the unionists vote leave in the Brexit referrendum? They themselves opened the door to short term problems and long term leaving another union. If you can leave one union with a referrendum you can leave another the same way...
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
What?
@praack4563
@praack4563 Жыл бұрын
well - the IRA had a heavy hand in the " troubles" and that predated the 1921 agreement ( say 1919) - so you can't really place all the blame on the UK now can you...
@durudadlani1931
@durudadlani1931 Жыл бұрын
Peace is the only way, Peace is the future. I pray the government will provide the financial blessings to make it grow. In the name of Lord Jesus, our Saviour. Amen
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
It hasn't 40 yrs later
@anthonyhassett
@anthonyhassett Жыл бұрын
London is getting tired of bailing out NI. 26 bn in and only £16bn out in revenue. Where is the accountability? Time to dump the money pit.
@durudadlani1931
@durudadlani1931 Жыл бұрын
@@joprocter4573 "Ask and it shall be given" Prayerfully, we should invoke this law.
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyhassettLondon is only tired of the IRA. Unionists aren’t trying to bomb London.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Instruments of peace created aphreid education so kids never mix with kids of other faith from birth
@hollywoodnoire
@hollywoodnoire 8 ай бұрын
This war has similarities to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
@gottmituns813
@gottmituns813 Жыл бұрын
Irish unity it's the only solution for brexit!
@BreadAccountant
@BreadAccountant Жыл бұрын
I mean there is the temporary solution right now and there is also undoing brexit
@wodens-hitman1552
@wodens-hitman1552 Жыл бұрын
Dream on.
@tracy8056
@tracy8056 Жыл бұрын
Doubt it!
@gottmituns813
@gottmituns813 Жыл бұрын
@@wodens-hitman1552 Enjoy Sinn Féin first minister.
@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance
@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance Жыл бұрын
The extremes of the Northern Irish are really extreme but the number is exaggerated quite extensively in the media, as the small number of people actively involved, are extremely active, extremely focused and extremely vocal in all the media outlets. Facts are hard to come by, but here we go. 19% of the Northern Irish population identify solely as Irish so would identify as Nationalist or Republican. Not all of this group would vote for unification in a referendum as the negative impact on their lifestyle, finances and demographic future would be massive. Which is why their politicians talk about a “New Ireland” and don’t even try to sell the existing Republic of Ireland. 35% of the Northern Irish population identify as British which is really a statement that they want nothing to do with the Republic of Ireland. 42% of Northern Irish Citizens have no affiliation as they are quite happy with their lifestyle and do not want any sectarian affiliations. The way forward is Independence and joining the EU as an independent country. That gives each group most of what they want without crossing tribal boundaries or causing massive financial, social or demographic hardship. Unfortunately it will take time and patience to convince everyone that we a genuine democratic party, not a proxy to get their vote as politics have become so divisive and dishonest.
@illogicalslayer9856
@illogicalslayer9856 Жыл бұрын
Didn't bring up the Irish side at all just the Unionist or British side. Economist keeping the moniker "rag for British millionaires" for all time.
@sands7779
@sands7779 Жыл бұрын
The EU redistributed UK taxpayers money to UK poorer areas including Northern Ireland via redevelopment and social funds. The reduction of subsidies will become more of an issue for poorer areas in Northern Ireland as the Tories do not need to buy Unionist support.
@jim-es8qk
@jim-es8qk Жыл бұрын
What are you going on about? We sent the EU 15 billion and got 5 billion back. What happened to the missing 10 billion?
@jim-es8qk
@jim-es8qk Жыл бұрын
Northern ireland is most heavily subsidied areas in the UK. It gets more tax payers money than every other region in the UK l!!
@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance
@NorthernIrishCitizensAlliance Жыл бұрын
The corruption and gas-lighting about the history and situation in Northern Ireland is way, way out of control, targeted mainly at an international audience, the young and gullible. The situation is so bad that even people in Northern Ireland are getting confused about its history, but even with that confusion there is no appetite for the self-destruction that unification with the Republic of Ireland would bring. Even Republicans have given up advocating a straight forward unification, as the consequences would be so absurd, they are now demanding a fantasy ”new Ireland”. The last time that was raised led to civil war. The working and middle class in Northern Ireland are far better off than their counterparts in the Republic of Ireland in spite of the Republics leprechaun wealth. *Northern Ireland has always had a healthy growing catholic population, so it’s doing something right. The Republic of Irelands Protestant population has dropped to 3% from 11%, but Northern Ireland has the problem, just a little perverse. *The three Ulster counties the Republic of Ireland insisted on retaining because of their catholic majority have had catastrophic demographic decreases of between 60 to 75%, but apparently Northern Ireland have the Issues. Ask the citizens in Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan about this fantasy Republic of Ireland. *Northern Ireland was stolen from the Republic of Ireland. Hang on, there has never been a united Ireland other than after Ulster was forcibly conquered, which was long after the Southern Kingdom’s, by the British. Northern Ireland was subsequently ruled by a puppet "English Pale" Dublin Government who managed the Ulster Plantations, later run directly from London. Northern Ireland doesn’t need unification, if it is between unification and independence it needs to be Independence, from everyone, so leave it alone. A few examples out of very, very many instances, but an independent commission would be very useful to establish the actual historical facts for all the Irish people about Northern Ireland and the involvement of the Dublin government in its recent difficulties. The very least all country’s should agree on is their history, when that is corrupted it can lead to dire consequences as the tragic situation in Ukraine has demonstrated. Automatic fixed referendum frequency would also be useful, held every 75 years unless cancelled democratically, to stop the unification issue and history being weaponised or gas-lighted in future. Propaganda harms the Northern Irish economy and people, so should stop. The facts are, that statistically only an average 24% of Northern Irish citizens even self-identify as Nationalist, while in practice, even fewer than that would be willing to vote for unification, as the negative financial impact on their quality of life and demographic future would be massive, just look at the three Ulster counties in the Republic, Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal. The remaining 77% of Northern Irish include, non-aligned, DUP, TUV, Alliance Unionists and NICA and have all consistently resisted the many, sometimes extreme pressures applied historically, determined to stay independent from the Republic of Ireland as they simply don’t like what they see, how they behave, have seen or what would be waiting for them. The Northern Irish have a socialist bias in their health and economic infrastructure, diametrically opposite to the Republic of Ireland’s American style, hustle, tax haven, and leprechaun economics with a massive wealth gap. Already imposing a horrific demographic, infrastructure, social, tax, cost of living and investment impact Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal, the three Ulster counties that the Republic of Ireland control, already driving the Ulster working class population out, not very inviting. Those facts don't sell newspapers or get views. Think this is exaggerating, delusionary, check the facts, you will be surprised. Contrary to the current Irish Republican gas-lighting being Non-aligned in Northern Ireland does not mean you will vote for unification, you are more likely to be interested in independence. Secular independence not unification is by far the more democratic and prosperous way forward, with by far the most potential for the Northern Irish, opening up opportunities for the Northern Irish such as joining the EU as an independent country and getting the benefits of its close proximity to the UK, very unusually, actually getting the significant benefits of joining the EU as an independent country but also at a cut down subscription, all for itself. All this without removing or even reducing the democratic viability of any longer term future aspirations that the Northern Irish citizen might have. Coincidentally, also giving an independent Northern Irish government far greater bargaining power to safeguard its citizens in any future negotiations they might decide to take part in, as an independent country. Interested in facts download our android app in google play or visit us in KZbin, Tick Tok or Facebook.
@FrankTheTank94
@FrankTheTank94 Жыл бұрын
The narrator kept getting Sorcha Eastwood’s name wrong. Called her Seoirse, which means George 😂
@bunyip5841
@bunyip5841 Жыл бұрын
Yes, wouldn't you think they could get the neighbours names right after 800 years or so?
@FrankTheTank94
@FrankTheTank94 Жыл бұрын
@funnyflix895 That's Saoirse, Seoirse is a different name
@stephenconway2468
@stephenconway2468 Жыл бұрын
It mean light or brightness. It does not derive itself from the Irish for George. Even if it did, then it would be Georgina which is a lovely name. You should read a little about the Anglicization of names from different languages. We (the UK) did that all over the world from Africa to India and now I read Ireland as well.
@stiofain88
@stiofain88 Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's an Irish equivalent of George. In school the teacher just threw out fadas like Skittles to the lads whose name couldn't be translated. One of the Nigerian lads was delighted and kept the fada for all other classes
@stephenconway2468
@stephenconway2468 Жыл бұрын
@@stiofain88 I think Seamus might be George but it could also be James. Anyway, I prefer someone with Irish ancestry to advise on these matters.
@MerryOREILLYOReilly
@MerryOREILLYOReilly Жыл бұрын
Love you your LIBERTY
@IRISHBOIIABLE
@IRISHBOIIABLE Жыл бұрын
British media forever showing it from protestant perspective, not highlighting the atrocities they have also committed
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
British media showing it from the pro-British side you mean. The majority.
@droidmansky7354
@droidmansky7354 Жыл бұрын
Aye, on the whole it was balanced and the they showed a victim who was legitimate in his anguish and grevence....poor lad....however, they sure there were atrocities on both sides...and it's all grim :(
@yesenochwasRIGHT
@yesenochwasRIGHT 8 ай бұрын
There would be no trouble in NorthernIreland,UK if Sinn Fein IRA stop promoting it against the people of the country.
@Ejej-zi4vo
@Ejej-zi4vo 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 spoken like a loyalist Get tf out of this land
@ATLmodK
@ATLmodK Жыл бұрын
It is not true that paramilitaries decommissioned their weapons. The Republican paramilitaries did decommission their weapons, but Loyalist paramilitaries were never required to decommission their weapons. They currently have internecine fighting which has caused suffering in those communities, though they are no longer defensive organizations but with leaders being killed, they have gone on to be criminal gangs.
@anneoleary3993
@anneoleary3993 Жыл бұрын
13000 of them and heavily armed. Peace process where only one side take part lol
@michaelmcmullan2300
@michaelmcmullan2300 Жыл бұрын
😅 the Belfast agreement was the biggest con trick for unionists .you can shove your peace dove
@Ejej-zi4vo
@Ejej-zi4vo 5 ай бұрын
Be careful what you wish for That peace was the inly thing that kept loyalists alive
@johnfisher247
@johnfisher247 Жыл бұрын
Peace will improve with demographic change. Those that want union with the Republic of Ireland are now in the majority and are growing. The other problem is the loss of moral compass and trauma that has come with the partition and Troubles. I am a Catholic but understand and have so much that is essential in common with Calvinists in Northern Ireland. The problem is the ignorant tribalism of the lapsed Christians who are Protestant Unionists and Catholic Republicans. They neither behave like Christians and are corrupted by the new secularism that corrupts them.
@stephenburke7612
@stephenburke7612 Жыл бұрын
Johnson Farage and the DUP will be fully responsible for any upcoming unrest in Northern Ireland
@tracy8056
@tracy8056 Жыл бұрын
Nothing to do with ongoing Provo activity then?
@tracy8056
@tracy8056 Жыл бұрын
@FunnyFlix 👍💯🇬🇧
@yermanoffthetelly
@yermanoffthetelly Жыл бұрын
​@FunnyFlix 🇮🇪🇪🇺🌊🧱🌊🇬🇧😂
@nymike06
@nymike06 Жыл бұрын
Give Northern Ireland back to the Irish
@EdgyDabs47
@EdgyDabs47 Жыл бұрын
Give America back to the Natives!
@nymike06
@nymike06 Жыл бұрын
@@EdgyDabs47 They sold it for beads and trinkets. Too late to have buyers remorse. As for Northern Ireland, that was stolen. The Map clearly shows it's part of Ireland. The time is coming that Ireland gets it back.
@EdgyDabs47
@EdgyDabs47 Жыл бұрын
@@nymike06 You mean starved, sent on death marches and deliberately introduced to western diseases? Stay in your own lane Yank. You have no moral authority here.
@dwinter666
@dwinter666 Жыл бұрын
Only a small group of extremists have any taste for further violence and disruption in Northern Ireland. Unfortunately British intelligence seem reluctant to tackle loyalist narco paramilitary terror gangs, probably due to their ties to said agencies.
@gazzy5303
@gazzy5303 Жыл бұрын
Yea I’m sure it’s just the Loyalist side that has a problem with drug dealing?
@dwinter666
@dwinter666 Жыл бұрын
@Gazzy British intelligence seem reasonably happy to go after the newer dissident Republican groups Garry. Past alleged collusion seems to have resulted in us tolerating the ongoing existence of some groups. Primarily "loyalist narco paramilitary terror gangs". Everyone knows who these people are, if actually live here and aren't a somewhat sheltered middle-class type then chances are you'll know all to well who the local paramilitaries are, yet psni etc allow them to exist.
@jooseppielleese7156
@jooseppielleese7156 Жыл бұрын
​@@gazzy5303 it is, Republicans actually kneecap drug dealers in the North. Its the South where some of them turned into drug smugglers.
@WeAreThePeople1690
@WeAreThePeople1690 Жыл бұрын
​@@dwinter666 All the while, you complain about this type of stuff. And we have terrorists in government and on our policing board. They might wear suits now, but they still are members of the army council. We all know, who is in charge of the "small group" are too. Yet they are still walking the streets too, and yes they deal drugs and are on the books of MI5, and smuggle fuel, cigarettes etc. Dont forget they robbed the Northern Bank too 🙄 You would think your sides, all upstanding members of the community the way you all go on!
@wildparkgiantsfoot531
@wildparkgiantsfoot531 Жыл бұрын
POBLACHT NA hÉIREAN RIALTAS SEALADACH PHOBLACHT NA hÉIREANN DO MHUINTIR NA hÉIREANN A FHEARA AGUS A MHNÁ NA hÉIREANN : In ainm Dé agus in ainm na nglún a chuaigh romhainn agus óna bhfuair sí seanoideas na náisiúntachta, tá Éire, trínne, ag gairm a clainne faoina bratach agus ag bualadh buille ar son a saoirse. Tar éis di a fir a eagrú agus a oiliúint ina heagraíocht rúnda réabhlóideach, Bráithreachas Phoblacht na hÉireann, agus ina heagraíochtaí míleata poiblí, Óglaigh na hÉireann agus Arm Cathartha na hÉireann, agus tar éis di a riailbhéas a thabhairt go foighneach chun foirfeachta agus feitheamh go buanseasmhach leis an bhfaill chun gnímh, tá sí ag glacadh na faille sin anois, agus, le cabhair óna clainn ar deoraíocht i Meiriceá agus ó chomh-ghuaillithe calma san Eoraip, ach, thar gach ní, le muinín as a neart dílis féin, tá sí ag bualadh buille i ndóchas iomlán go mbéarfaidh sí bua. Dearbhaímid gur ceart ceannasach dochlóite ceart mhuintir na hÉireann chun seilbh na hÉireann, agus chun dála na hÉireann a stiúradh gan chosc gan cheataí. Níor cuireadh an ceart sin ar ceal leis an bhforghabháil a rinne pobal eachtrannach agus a rialtas air le cian d’aimsir ná ní féidir go brách a chur ar ceal ach trí dhíothú mhuintir na hÉireann. Níl aon ghlúin dá dtáinig nár dhearbhaigh pobal na hÉireann a gceart chun saoirse agus ceannas a náisiúin; sé huaire le trí chéad bliain anuas dhearbhaíodar faoi airm é. Ag seasamh dúinn ar an gceart bunaidh sin agus á dhearbhú arís faoi airm os comhair an tsaoil, fógraímid leis seo Poblacht na hÉireann ina Stát Ceannasach Neamhspleách agus cuirimid ár n-anam féin agus anam ár gcomrádaithe comhraic i ngeall lena saoirse agus lena leas, agus lena móradh i measc na náisiún. Dlíonn Poblacht na hÉireann, agus éilíonn sí leis seo, géillsine ó mhuintir uile na hÉireann, idir fhir agus mhná. Ráthaíonn an phoblacht saoirse creidimh agus saoirse shibhialta, comhchearta agus comhdheiseanna, dá saoránaigh uile, agus dearbhaíonn sí gurb é a rún séan agus sonas a lorg don náisiún uile agus do gach roinn di, le comhchúram do chlainn uile an náisiúin, agus le neamhairt ar an easaontas a cothaíodh d’aontoisc eatarthu ag rialtas eachtrannach agus lér deighleadh mionlucht ón tromlach san am atá imithe. Go dtí go dtabharfaidh feidhm ár n-arm an t-ionú dúinn Buan-Rialtas Náisiúnta a bhunú ó theachtaí do phobal uile na hÉireann arna dtoghadh le vótaí a cuid fear agus ban, déanfaidh an Rialtas Sealadach, a bhunaítear leis seo, cúrsaí sibhialta agus míleata na Poblachta a riaradh thar ceann an phobail. Cuirimid cúis Phoblacht na hÉireann faoi choimirce Dhia Mór na nUile-chumhacht agus impímid A bheannacht ar ár n-airm; iarraimid gan aon duine a bheas ag fónamh sa chúis sin do tharraingt easonóra uirthi le mílaochas, le mídhaonnacht ná le slad. San uair oirbheartach seo is é dualgas náisiún na hÉireann a chruthú, lena misneach agus lena dea-iompar agus le toil a clainne á dtoirbhirt féin ar son na maitheasa poiblí, go dtuilleann sí an réim ró-uasal is dán di. Arna shíniú thar ceann an Rialtais Shealadaigh, TOMÁS Ó CLÉIRIGH SEÁN MAC DIARMADA TOMÁS MAC DONNCHADHA PÁDRAIC MAC PIARAIS ÉAMONN CEANNT SÉAMUS Ó CONGHAILE IÓSEPH Ó PLUINGCÉAD
@paulgalligan1916
@paulgalligan1916 Жыл бұрын
🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪
@paulgalligan1916
@paulgalligan1916 Жыл бұрын
@FunnyFlix 😆 🤣 😂 😹 state of that 😆
@user-ze8yy8jg1f
@user-ze8yy8jg1f Жыл бұрын
@FunnyFlix we don’t want to hear about your orange handbag
@David1991.
@David1991. Жыл бұрын
@@paulgalligan1916 Curry and yoghurt can coca cola
@sl_721
@sl_721 Жыл бұрын
Ar feabhas mo chara
@glizzzerd
@glizzzerd Жыл бұрын
The Troubles is a funny name for such a violet period
@wertiopo
@wertiopo Жыл бұрын
Freedom for Northern Ireland from the anglosaxon pestilence 💪
@TheRaidoRune
@TheRaidoRune Жыл бұрын
I don't think so, no.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Irish were not in Ireland first.. The scotti were part Scots. Part viking. Part English. Part Welsh mixed heritage invaded by Norman's..Portuguese. Pirates from iberia. Spanish and Irish are very similar in language.even their police same name. Most ppl spoke old English like Robert burns. The whole island was erosian of UK coast many moons ago..freedom from pirates waring
@paulgalligan1916
@paulgalligan1916 Жыл бұрын
​@Jo Procter you talk some pony Jo on every video 😂
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
@@paulgalligan1916 haha listen to the big man
@wertiopo
@wertiopo Жыл бұрын
@@joprocter4573 🤣
@celtictwist6750
@celtictwist6750 Жыл бұрын
All Definately Deserve Better☘️💖👍Peace and Security for Families All
@richiemurphy9783
@richiemurphy9783 Жыл бұрын
I smell the British minority sweating in lrelands Ulster 😢
@wodens-hitman1552
@wodens-hitman1552 Жыл бұрын
Yes right😅.the SAS are really sweating😂😂
@RandomBloke007
@RandomBloke007 Жыл бұрын
Not a minority.
@noodlyappendage6729
@noodlyappendage6729 Жыл бұрын
You spelt majority wrong 🇬🇧
@sl_721
@sl_721 Жыл бұрын
British heretical minority don’t belong in Ireland
@johnjoyce2393
@johnjoyce2393 Жыл бұрын
the English followers up the North are the minority a united ireland is on its way a fair vote and bye bue northern Ireland
@edro422
@edro422 Жыл бұрын
They let the loyalist killers out as well. Wasn't one sided.
@abrahamlevi3556
@abrahamlevi3556 Жыл бұрын
There will be no foreign investment without guaranteed political stability; moreover, if the Unionists decide to bring the troubles into the Republic of Ireland that will have catastrophic effects on foreign investment there as well, especially in the rapidly growing hi-tech sector. Even accommodating corporate tax policies and other perks won't change that.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Think unionist voters of no relationship to groups that can do violence HAVE BEEN MORE THAN UPSTANDING CITIZENS AVOIDING RISING TO REPUBLICAN BAITING but beware if ever blows it will be worse than anyone wants to. See.. Either way left bereft by all especially own Westminster
@leelilly5700
@leelilly5700 Жыл бұрын
Forget about foreign investment. It is a two-sided sword. Right at this moment, even choose to remain in Union, doesn't mean much stability. Just look at what shape UK is now.
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