Why Does Gaijin Love Russia? - War Thunder

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[@kagannibal2204]

How does Gaijin justify Russia having 70% WR at top tier ☠️

[@emortalelitegaming2667]

Because apparently everyone who doesn’t play Russia is not a good player lmao, that’s always the excuse

[@kagannibal2204]

@@emortalelitegaming2667 you are not good because your nato tank is one massive weakspot 😂

[@MrWorldwide00]

because thats their country and we all know how badly russians need their egos

[@dulguunjargal1199]

​@@larry8437What aboutism really. People always like to point out about how a Single NATO tank has the same no spalling issue like it excuses the entire Russian MBT line of the problem.

[@thatonelocalauthority2809]

@@larry8437and? You and I know Chinese players tend to be cheaters, with ESP or something. And France suffers at every other BR. Minor nation players are more skilled than the big 3 mains, especially Russian mains. You literally can’t justify top tier Russia being as strong as it is, or Russia being as strong as it is at all really. If you think bias doesn’t exist after so much evidence to prove otherwise, your hopeless.

[@alanchan12411]

Please also remember that once the repair cost of top tier tanks were around 13to20k but the Russian were like around 5k to 7k with a average win rate of 70%

[@nelsoncheng2674]

Fucking unfair gaijin bias that they’re lying to everyone not admitting them.

[@davidvlk5505]

well russian vehicles are cheap

[@timothyclifford7445]

​@@davidvlk5505They should then have according quality and performance of said cheap price

[@davidvlk5505]

​@@timothyclifford7445 And so numbers of their tanks

[@fckrasd]

Russians not maintain, only oil and grease needed to run their vehicles.

[@GhostoftheSnow271]

I always wondered why Russia had so many prototypes in their tech tree, especially when the vast majority of them were either never built, never saw combat, or broke every time it was turned on.

[@doomguy.23frommars60]

What prototypes weren't built may I ask because as far as I know most if not all maybe not a weird prenuim was built

[@ahuman7199]

You do realize most "Late" american tanks such as their heavies are all prototypes that were never built either right? They're also all convienient piles of dog crap without stablizers despite every other tank America actually built having one. This is also completely ignoring the vast amount of German Prototypes that were never built and or never worked/saw battle. (Maus, E100, VK 3002 just a proto panther, Ostwind ii, Kugelblitz, Raketenautomat, Leopard 2k ) The Ostwind 2 is my favorite examples of German Bias, Easily showing germany has the absolute best SPAA every aspect of the game while every other nation has just technicals, The Germans get a Tank that never existed even on paper or theory, Just pulled out of nowhere, given a second barrel and more ammo just cause germany.

[@lepiss9683]

Dude literally what in the ussr tree in this game broke every time it turned on? You’re spouting ignorance

[@veritusahriman9720]

@@lepiss9683 The vast majority of T-34s were utter dogshit, especially those produced during WW2, guzzled fuel, ammo and were poorly welded/assembled. Crew comfort was abysmal, leading to far worse crew performance which is one of the reasons why so few 'tank aces' survived the war. The T-62 was a good solid design, but was cheapened for mass production resulting in the dumpster fire that is the T-72. T-72s have horrid horsepower/ton, low speed, poor reactive mobility, and have to be plastered in ERA to even have a fraction of a chance to survive a hit. The T-80s have their merits, and are a vast improvement over the T-72s in every way but are the minority of Russian armour.

[@lepiss9683]

@@veritusahriman9720 ok

[@enderman8151]

I would also add that Russia gets an event vehicle in every single major event except for some battle passes. It wouldn't shock me if they have more event vehicles that Israel has vehicles in total.

[@memo57708]

That's not Russia exclusive my dude Germany and America both also have about 9 million event tanks

[@alexisleskinen9870]

​@@memo57708except germanys event vehicles are copy paste or theyre just straight up worse than tech tree versions. The class 3p: worse than the radpanzer 90. The jets: all copy paste. The spz something: worse than the tanks in the tech tree. Russian event vehicles are almost always better than anything in the tech tree.

[@casematecardinal]

@@alexisleskinen9870 the class 3p is bullshit. Fuck that thing. Otherwise there is some truth to what you're saying

[@enderman8151]

@@memo57708 Yeah they get a lot but it's not literally every event that they get something. Current event doesn't have a US event vehicle for example. Can't say the same for Russia save for a few battle passes and the crafting event with the furry tiger. They also got skipped for one years summer event because of the IS-7 event happening before that event. Other than that it's something every single event without fail.

[@appa609]

The german top tier lineup was like 50% event vehicles last year

[@stevenguzman2049]

I’m still waiting for a US self propelled artillery, feels all the other countries have gotten one and the US has none modern Howitzer one

[@emortalelitegaming2667]

We didn’t even get a m7 priest, they don’t give us du armor and they gave us a m1a2 sep but with almost no upgrades beside therm and era where’s my du armor or better rounds

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Does Germany have one yet?

[@doge_sevens]

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 nope

[@user-qv6gp4ux1l]

@@doge_sevens well they could add the PzH 2000 ( german : Panzerhaubitze 2000 ) or for the amican the m109 howitzer .

[@jurrassicmonster4142]

isn't the sturmpanzer 2 self propelled artillery?@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755

[@gandalfderfette3105]

Is6…. Meanwhile type 10 just missing a armor plate on the gun

[@duke0salt717]

Ya the breach and lower hull armour is missing. Plus the turret rotation is wrong, I've talked to and seen a Type 10s turret swing in person it's a lot faster than 30 degrees a second

[@Omen09]

We don't talk about top tier mbt's gun armor :x

[@wyvernthefox9683]

The entire turret armor is missing, the gun plate is just one of those plating. Japan said the "turret side armor can withstand it's own shell" yet the only armor is this tiny chunk in the turret.

[@wallachia4797]

​@@wyvernthefox9683Tbh, I have my doubts about those claims Japan made. I really can't believe it could take its own shell.

[@derritter3873]

@@wallachia4797​​⁠​⁠​⁠well it seems Gaijin doubts those claims as well. Im not going to argue if the armor is that good or if it isn’t, but they just straight up gave it no armor at all. 20mm can pen the front of a main battle tank from 2014. There has gotta be something wrong with that.

[@jimjamjoeyjoejoe]

Don't forget the time someone datamined a bit of arbitrary code that suddenly boosted armour v APDS at an angle most Soviet vehicles happened to have their upper glacis sloped at.

[@eldarguardian6485]

There was another one, I can barely remember how exactly it was worded and coded but t34 had substantially lowered chance to catch on fire, it was in the very beginning of tanks mode and got exposed the moment data miners showed up in community. Also tiger2 with historical armor debuff XD but that was official as they were THAT delusional to just single that one out and not their beloved t34s for example that failed to 50mm< shells before they got their hands on metalurgical thermometers from allies.

[@DaisiesTC]

@@eldarguardian6485 Bro in real life T-34's were just falling apart and cracking constantly, they had such poor quality steel and production issues. Literally just gaps in the armor a lot of the time.

[@toast1172]

@@DaisiesTC Yeah, HE was very effective against T34's armor because the welds were done so poorly the front plate was known to just break off

[@sasmixail]

LazerPig enjoyer?

[@DaisiesTC]

@@sasmixail ayo

[@manofharlech5775]

As mentioned, the favourism towards russian ground vehicles has been there since the beginning of ground battles. I still can't forget Gaijin's reply on why german tanks don't have the actual *DARK* grey camo instead of this super light grey. It's because *"It would make german tanks harder to spot."* Not to mention some of the german tanks (Tigers H, StuG III G, Nashorn, Panther A... you know, the strong vehicles) having a desert camo as their default when the vast majority of maps are NOT desert... Another funny answer from Gaijin: Q: Why british bombers can't have their super heavy bombs? A: Because those were not used against tanks and ground units. Bam, the PE-8 gets the 5000kg babe and shortly after another russian bomber gets another super heavy bomb... 😆 German tanks being coded to catch fire from MG bullets hitting their armour... Shenannigans with the british 17pdr pretty much immediately after their release when those were able to anihilate T-34s anytime and anywhere... As you said, the list goes on and on...

[@DaisiesTC]

Don't forget that as an advertised feature for a bit, German tanks had a debuff to their armor to "simulate manufacturing issues". But let's just ignore the fact the vast majority of T-34's produced had extremely poor build quality, frequently with cracks and actual holes in the armor.

[@thesovietgamer5798]

⁠​⁠@@DaisiesTC T-34s have a random chance to miss certain components (optics, radio, FPE, air vent., etc.) to simulate rushed production. Russian crews is now less combat effective due to ration shortage.

[@Aknayelth]

​@@thesovietgamer5798doesn't matter, this ridiculous game still has a russian bias

[@DaisiesTC]

@@Aknayelth What he said isn't actually in the game its a hypothetical lmfao

[@manofharlech5775]

@@thesovietgamer5798 Is this from a Spookston's video? Or whoever made the video series "If tank-xyz was historically accurate"... 😁

[@DaSteeJ07]

Yet Abrams M1A2 and SEP and HC don’t get their front armor upgrades but T80 gets its little ammo rack sheet metal protector that isn’t even modeled in the X-ray

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

The M1A2 SEP and everything before it still has the same hull armor as the 1977 M1 in game lmao. What kind of Copium is Gaijin huffing on the daily. Hell I’m not even going to mention the Type 10 as that thing literally has half its composite array completely missing it’s just thin steel

[@TheRealSteve42]

@@ICECAPPEDSKYThat’s not true. All the M1A2’s after the first few dozen mfg, and all of the SEPs had the DU armor array in the hull. Unclassified documents state there being a hull armor upgrade, and although it is ambiguous, it states it received the same armor upgrade as other models that are confirmed to have had it. There are also SEP V1 testing vehicles shown with counter weights strapped to the hull armor to simulate the additional DU inserts. It’s also fairly obvious based off of the vehicle’s weight changes.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@TheRealSteve42 I never said the Abrams didn’t have hull upgrades in real life I said that that’s how it is in game because gaijin is coping XD

[@hobblesofkarth3943]

Also it has shit thermals. gen 1 thermals on the freaking M1A2 EXCUSE ME? Also keep in mind the t72s and t 80s IRL have been dying to RPGs for DECADES in droves in every conflict they have seen service in. RPG 7s! the mythical chemical protection russia has in game is complete horse shit. Abrams meanwhile has been laughing at RPGs for years. The biggest threat being losing tracks or taking out the engine.

[@FoxtrotStudi0s]

As someone who has plenty of time in the Abrams in game its annoying. I mostly play the SEP and I rarely do anymore because the tank is such a piece of shit to play. The tank in game is so lazy it's model is an M1A1 with a few bits tacked on and the armor is the same as the base M1. They refuse to add its depleted uranium inserts to the hull and turret. Which are Gen 3 and should show noticable improvement over the HC and A2 base. But it doesn't. It doesn't at all. It's copy paste garbage and overlooks everything that the SEP gets as improvements. Especially for it being an 05' model.

[@maximilianmusshoff2733]

My favorite nation is Sweden, but i main Russia because i am so tired of losing 4 out of 5 matches playing top tier.

[@rattyratstuff7125]

Yep why I abandoned sweden. It's literally rigged against them in the coding

[@duke0salt717]

Ya I don't blame you, I main Japan and constantly getting paired with Americans spamming Aims with 1 death leavers everywhere

[@duke0salt717]

Really makes me wanna not play anymore

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Sweden is like the second best nation at top tier.

[@jomama8043]

​@@GeraltofRivia22just wish they had some good cas

[@the_undisputed_king_5395]

For context: the T-80 BVM was adopted by Russia in 2017. The M1A2 SEP was adopted by the US in 1999. The problem is Gaijin is so unwilling to give other countries their modern equipment. The U.S. (who I’m just gonna keep using as an example) has M829A3 and A4 APFSDS in real life designed to counter the Russian ERA in the game.

[@hdehilter9016]

Well, the most modern tank of the US is the M1A2 SEPv4, almost no new things just better ERA. I think gaijin should add the M1A2 SEPv4 and the Leopard 2A7 or atleast some Leopard 2A6 variants which are better than the regular that we got in WT.

[@Viviana088]

America in warthunder is so hella nerfed compared to other nations. Then again if they gave the us every single new bell and whistle everyone else will suffer

[@Kwisss]

@@hdehilter9016 SEP V2 and V3 technically have advanced DU armor thats better than the M1A2 as even the SEPV3 has an elongated turret front for more NERA. Also I believe all M1A2 should have 50.1 mm UFP not the 38.1 mm UFP.

[@aesirgaming1014]

I argue that this comes down to the fact that Gaijin takes zero account of doctrinal differences. Every army designs, produces, deploys and utilizes its vehicles based on its fighting doctrine. Russian tanks were never meant to go toe-to-toe with their NATO adversaries (propaganda claims aside). The idea was that it might take 3 T-72's to destroy an M1 Abrams, but because the T-72 is cheaper to produce and maintain and requires one less crew and less training...you'd have 4 T-72's to every 1 M1 Abrams. The problem is that the game takes zero account of these factors. If we went with the real, period-for-period, full realism experience then Russian teams would need to be 2-3 times the size of NATO teams and you can imagine where the bitching would be at then. Just the same, Gaijin pays zero attention to the actual, doctrinal complexities of calling for artillery fire, calling for CAS, etc. In the Russian military, these are usually battalion, brigade or division level approvals (based on comms intercepts in Ukraine), meaning it usually takes significantly longer for artillery or CAS to land on station. In the US, this is dessiminated to a much lower level with even NCO's trained to call for artillery and air support and more extensive usage of strike aircraft being 'on-station'. Just another example of how Gaijin's refusal to take any account of doctrine has a direct, negative effect on any claimed 'realism' in their game.

[@user-rl8hf8kt1r]

​@@aesirgaming1014 you relize that the t-72 is a simplified weaker t-64 designed in the 60's while the first Abrams was launched in the 80's ......so it was never meant to fight the Abrams or other 80's NATO tanks......it was meant to fight the m60's and be cheaper less complex than the t-64 to mass proudoce and supply to alliase and poor 3rd world countries.... which makes you very wrong......if we are real in here then most Japanese and German tech tree at the end of ww2 wouldn't exist because they never left the drawing board😂

[@thatoneguy1741]

Shame they don’t add vehicles simultaneously for all nations, we just get watch them get stronger every update,

[@llaammeerr2506]

at this point im half expecting them to add an s300 to russia to "experiment with new systems and their capability"

[@GeraltofRivia22]

I'm so sick of people on Reddit and the forums trying to gaslight people into believing Russian bias doesn't exist.

[@dengawr6000]

Bro, check the americans first lol. Every nation in wt has theyre own biases

[@nikolaideianov5092]

​​@@dengawr6000and then there are the ppl that say others have more bias

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

I think it really comes down to back in the day when it was just the cold war non composite mbts it’s wasn’t as bad but nowadays especially with volumetric and modern aircraft and modern tanks it has become so blatant it’s not even funny. You’ll always have Russian players coping by saying the Abrams slaughtered years and years ago when it came out which by the way was short lived. And when the 2A5 came out and you know what gaijin did? They immediately nerfed its composite into the ground in comparison to how it was and released the T80BVM from 2018 lmao. Find a single time Gaijin ever nerfed a Russian tanks armor or gimped their armor. Because guess what it never happened. But oh they’ll gimp all nato ERA and composites except the Moderna which apparently Slovakia has a nato T72 with better ERA than the M1A2 or Challenger 2.

[@dulguunjargal1199]

The Redditors and Forum users should never be trusted because they try to gaslight themselves into believing cope Russian propaganda because they bought too many Premiums and spent too much money on the game so they have to mald in the comments every War Thunder video denying Russian bias to get their moneys worth. Call them a Russolarp and move on.

[@texasthib2029]

@@dengawr6000America factually makes the best shit so the best nation should 100 percent be the USA by a large margin every abrams after the m1a1HC all had du armor and rounds, as well as upgraded thermals but they’re nowhere to be found I don’t even have to mention aircraft cause we have always made the best aircraft and no matter how biased you are you simply can’t argue against their real world performance same with the abrams which is arguably the best tank ever built and the American choppers are so fucking shit in wt it’s not even funny the ka choppers are dogshit and put their own selves at risk when being operated cause they’re poorly made and low quality meanwhile the Apache the chopper every fucking nation including Russian and China wants to get their hands on is rather dogshit in game

[@zehbush7468]

i had 5 matches as US 10.3 4 matches were US Britain (and some other country) VS primarily USSR and germany. All 5 mathes were defeats, and in all 5 we were trapped in our spawn by the half way mark. even the one match with germany, we still lost. all 5 games the enemy team almost mostly soviet tanks

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

Fighting against a team that says USSR, China, and Sweden is a guaranteed death sentence from 10.0 and up. Hell just USSR by itself or just with China alongside it is enough to be certain defeat

[@insertnamehere6348]

Dude same thing happened to me last night, i was playing 10.3 us against ussr and i shit u not out of the 15-20 matches i played, the average game length was like 2 MAYBE 3 minutes because ussr would wipe my team then push and camp our spawns

[@connor22abrams4]

Russia is the most dominant at top tier. The US and Germany are contenders for 2nd place. Even if you fight solely Russia, there's a decent chance you'll still lose. Basically unless the entire Russian team is braindead, you're kinda screwed. I quit playing top tier because US vehicles are so damn expensive with repair costs and it's much harder to break even.

[@insertnamehere6348]

@@connor22abrams4 i completely understand and agree, ive been playing for a few years now, i have mid to top tier us ground and maxed us air with mid tier ussr ground and top tier air, i can say for a fact that you are 1000% correct. Ussr is cheaper and more efficient per game where as us struggles. Now with air its a fair balance because i play tons of sim so i incorporate those tactics into rb or ab which helps immensely. Although it still seems like certain russian planes take 100’s of missles and gun hit without taking much damage where as if i get my wings hit once by a ussr gun my whole plane loses control yet they dont? Its pure ussr bias and not a single dev has tried to fix it. Instead they give them more buffs and better vehicles whilst leaving every other country behind

[@loc1123]

"even the one match with germany" whats that supposed to mean?!? im germany main and i lose 7/10 games. the 3 games i win are with russia.

[@SlimyMcTee]

When the ERA update came and only USSR vehicle have them first, they also suspiciously put an update that made HEAT as the default round instead of researchable one. Oh also when the "rockets will not trigger AA missiles" update, they made a specific set of rule that some rockets with specific diameter still can detonate the AA missiles, and you guess it, those specific diameter rockets are all russian rockets 💀

[@tomusklisus7381]

NATO tanks eat up HEAT shells more than Russians, you can shoot the LFP of a ruski with HEAT and kill it

[@tomusklisus7381]

Without ERA Russian tanks wouldn't even be competitive frontally , the side ERA eating shots sure is dumb but fronfally without ERA it'd be insane bad

[@wallachia4797]

@@tomusklisus7381 As a French main, that's completely untrue. Any British, German and most American tanks I shoot in an AMX-30 gets turned into a matchbox. Quite literally yesterday I shot two HEAT shells shells into a T-55 (just standard T-55, not even the AM variant with ERA). First shot made the driver and gunner orange; russian player misses because he's bad. Second shot in, driver dies, gunner becomes red; russian shoots my fuel tank, it explodes. Take your mind off killing any of the T-55 AMs that are being spammed by premium kiddies.

[@HL1_]

@@wallachia4797 if you cant kill a t 55 you just suck man sorry, i have never had an issue with killing them with heat. right now i play chieftain mk3 and the t 55 is probably the easiest tank to destroy, ammo and crew everywhere

[@wallachia4797]

@@HL1_ I can kill T55s, but they are not fun to play against at all and there's literally nothing you can do when the game just decides to not work, such as in the situation I described above.

[@noobuswonder6547]

I'd say the most egregious issue is how hard it seems to ammo rack Russian MBTs with the carousel auto-loader system. I'v seen countless clips of people shooting it only for a ammo shell to just go black and apparently eat the round up. Meanwhile in real life, Russian MBTs get there turret launched into the sky and completely destroyed when the ammo is hit.

[@wallachia4797]

It's not even the autoloaders. I've noticed this in the past year or so, but 2/10 times I shoot a Russian ammorack (no matter the tank or the BR) it just doesn't blow up and the shells I shot disappear. 2/10 might not seem like a lot, but this phenomenon doesn't happen when I shoot any other tanks, and it's not normal at all.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Russian tanks die when I shoot them in the side. What's the problem? This should be easy to test should it not?

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@wallachia4797 Test it.

[@hatzgionule8037]

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 homie, im sorry to burst your bubble but with that name, pfp and everything, you are hardly someone id trust on the topic of russian bias

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@hatzgionule8037 Well first off I'm Polish. Secondly you're only outing yourself really. I've suggested you go and test it. As you're someone who's not Russian, I can say the opposite. You are someone who ought not to be trusted on Russian bias. Equally as logical, equally as stupid.

[@Neno908]

I remember the first country I played it was Britain and every time it would be against Russia I don't have a chance

[@BazingusBoi]

Me in my Cromwell attempting to kill a damn T34/ KV 1 in immense pain

[@LeMeowAu]

Me watching my 17 pdr bounce straight off the t-34 and being immediately killed by the worst shot in mankind(i hit the magic driver hatch)

[@Neno908]

@@LeMeowAu it’s pure pain

[@Neno908]

@@BazingusBoi Even if you kill him, they have more so to not worry you definitely will lose

[@littleshep5502]

@@LeMeowAu its the same in later tiers. Watching a 300mm pen AP round bounce off of its lower plate with a 20mm thickness. Or, watching one sail through the front of a BMP, hit absolutely nothing, and come out the back

[@STGN01]

That feeling when you put your APFSDS through the side of a T tank and watch 2 powder bags turn black and disappear in the carousel with no explosion only to get shot back with no direct ammo hit but your red ammo blows up anyway.

[@LewisB3217]

Sorry comrade, soviet tanks don’t blow up when their ammo is damaged (don’t look at Ukraine)

[@casualspawnpeeking3680]

Anytime some reddittard says Russian bias isn't real I just send them a clip of this exact thing happening to me that day lol

[@LeMeowAu]

You see what is happening is that stalin magically teleports the powder charge and smokes them like a blunt

[@thatguynathan5816]

Accurate

[@STGN01]

@@chadtheboris Not with that frequency but ok.

[@user-ne3ze4zz7r]

I remember back in the day when tanks first came out and it was T-54s, IS-4Ms fighting Panthers and Tiger IIs, and the Russian tanks were literally completely invulnerable.

[@_Beans_]

I remember playing the CBT and getting rolled by KV-1 zis-5 in my panzer 3 L and M every single game

[@hansgruber3064]

I just love seeing a T-34 side fuel tank eat a 17 pounder shell and if I’m lucky it might start a fire.

[@manofharlech5775]

I love seeing a T-34 or KV-1 side fuel tank tank eat a 75mm or 88mm (edit: or 10,5 cm as I've just experienced 😆 )APHE shell explosion and if I'm lucky it might start a fire... :)

[@Kwisss]

Happens to all tanks with unarmored fuel tanks. Its more apparant on the T-34s as its side on. Fuel tanks IRL can eat shrapanel but i suggest they nerf how much it can eat in game for all tanks.

[@jessymeowlight5660]

It's crazy how broken the Volumetrics on russian tanks are. As soon as the enemy team spawns in their KV-1's the tide of the battle completely changes. Same as T-34's. They have no reason to be as impossible to pen as they are...

[@howardzhang5421]

You could just aim for weak spots, like the turret cheeks of t34s and the upper glacis of KV and IS tanks. If a Russian tank survives a few hits, its "Russian bias" but I have had matches in the Tiger 2 or Tiger where I have tanked 30+ hits, but no one screams about "German bias". Every nation has strong BRs like Germany 5.3, and to be honest Russian tanks are relatively easy to counter if you know where to aim, and even if you cant pen someone from the front, you can always destroy his track and barrel then flank him.

[@jozefdobrovodsky2932]

@@howardzhang5421 This is going to be unpopular chief, but I really think Germany 5.3 isn't as good as people crack it up to be. I used to be a German main back when I started out in the game (typical wehraboo) and I would get completely dumped-on (back when Tiger Is had to face American T34s). Since then, I moved on to France where I have a KD of 1.8-2.3 in most of my tanks (not great, but pretty acceptable I would say). Even now, with Germany supposedly being "buffed" down at 5.3 and me having close to 2000 hours in the game, my KD on the Tiger H1 is 0.9, it's a horrible performance. You can say it's a skill issue but I don't know why I perform decently on a neglected tech tree such as France while massively underperforming in a "baby" lineup like Germany 5.3. Do you have an explanation? I will take an ARL-44 over a Panther any day of the week and I will take a French Jumbo over a Tiger in my sleep. I also think Germany's mid-tier heavy TD (ferdinand, jagdtiger etc.) are a complete slog to play through and I want to throw my monitor out the window whenever I play them. On the other hand, the CA Lorraine and the Foch are absolute gifts to God's green Earth. Apart from the upper tiers (from the Leopard I going up), I actually think German tanks are pretty crap, that's been my experience anyways.

[@callensparksir8235]

The German-Finnish KV-1 and the KV-1B are impossible to kill. (atleast in an M4A2 75, plus my teammates in other vehicles) Normal KV-1s and T-34s (STZ downwards) are super easy to kill. For the normal KV-1s, aim for the flat cheek on the side of the turret.

[@tristianisgaming9302]

@@howardzhang5421well to be fair in ww2 the weakness of the russian t34 was pretty much it’s entire body, they cut so many corners that the Russians sold them all off to other countries because they were bad for even russian standards

[@jessymeowlight5660]

@@howardzhang5421 that's the whole problem. I've been playing around that BR all week and no matter how many times i shoot their damn cheeks it never pens. Same if I get their sides. The Panther has volumetric cheeks problem too but at least you often CAN pen. With the T-34 or KV-1 ye just bloody can't. It doesn't matter if you know the weakspots or not when being 1mm off has volumetrics telling you to piss off. Even when in a higher BR they can still be a pain in the a- somehow

[@ethanstoltz4021]

Many of the matches I play against Russia at top tier end in my team being killed in spawn by Migs and KA’s. The fact that the BVM can move faster than most light vehicles while being the most heavily armored MBT in the game is insane as well. Only reason I touch my Russian top tier lineup anymore is if I want to shut my brain off.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

I’m half convinced a lot of tanks in the USSR tech tree especially the MBT’s have artificial boosts in either horsepower or Torque values to make them faster. I mean hell I’m pretty sure the final drives they have in game actually let them go faster than they realistically could. I mean look at the T34’s and KV1’s those I know for a fact are too fast. The T34’s and KV’s had notoriously shit transmissions making the tanks only realistically driving 10-12mph. Meanwhile in warthunder they out accelerate and outrun almost everything at their br. But yeah back to the point there’s something fishy with Russian mbt speed to be sure

[@makoshark40]

Also funny how kv2 max on road speed irl is the kv2 max offroad speed in game and even then it can exceed it lol quite stupid tbh and lets not forget tanks with 120hp and weigh 8 tons more then an american tank with 350hp but somehow its faster in every way even though russian tanks have some the most primative transmissions out of any tank at every time in history

[@alpenfoxvideo7255]

also a damaged autoloader somehow still spins and loads the round in 4 seconds

[@JoviaI1]

Other examples like what you mentioned with the BMP-2M, but the opposite happened. The M3A3 Bradley was originally raised in BR because the TOW-2B missiles were really good. They then proceeded to nerf the TOW-2B to utter uselessness and at the same time raised the vehicle's BR to 9.3. INVALIDATING THE ENTIRE REASON FOR THE BR RAISE MAKING IT ESSENTIALLY A DOUBLE-NERF! (Same BR as the BMP-2M that got buffed when it was raised by the way). NOW, after they nerfed ATGMs again to the point that TOW missiles just fire into the ground and are basically uncontrollable, the M3A3 Bradley has been further raised to 10.0! TEN POINT ZERO!!! A slow, fat, vehicle that has to come to a complete stop and wait TWO WHOLE SECONDS to even fire it's shitty missile is 10.0 BR. The German Kugelblitz suffered the same double-nerf treatment. It was raised to 7.0 BR because it's penetration for it's HVAP round was near 100mm so it could play an anti-ground role as well as anti-air. THEY NERFED THE HVAP ROUND AT THE SAME TIME THEY RAISED THE BR, AGAIN INVALIDATING THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE BR NERF! Now the kugel sits as the only 7.0 BR vehicle in the entire german tech tree meaning NOBODY PLAYS IT ANYMORE. It was nerfed so hard, they essentially nerfed it out of the game. Sorry for the rant, I just had to get that off my chest.

[@edenfeledrum1540]

Not only does the M3 have to wait to deploy the launcher it also has to be at a complete standstill to fire them and only has 2 in its launcher. The BMP2M has a lower profile, has 4 missiles and can fire them on the move. The Bradley in game also folds down its launcher at 17kph something that is usually done at higher speeds to protect the launcher and prevent it from being damaged. In a combat scenario the crew would never do that. They should make a button to make it manually deployable similar to the radar on some SPAA

[@elonex1126]

Dont forget they reduced the hvap belts from the kugel from full belt of 91mm pen to 1/3 Hvap that only pen 77mm at 7.0 and at the same time there is the M53 / 59 at 6.3 with full hvap belt with 91mm pen both same Firerrate

[@JoviaI1]

@@elonex1126 Oh yeah I forgot about that broken-ass thing.

[@manofharlech5775]

Also don't forget Kugel's nerf'd turret traverse, once to the point that it was absolutely unusable against aircraft. It's been buffed later, but never to the original traverse speed...

[@curtsauce3947]

They nerfed lab-ad hvap round too. Now they only pen like 60 mm lmao.

[@randombastion]

As a french tech tree main I never really belived that there was bias in the game I always just though I was either in a bad position or wrong place wrong time but this video is starting to make me believe that the bias is real

[@loc1123]

thats the problem with bias. it's usually anecdotal even though it's true. and when you finally got some proof, then it was just an oopsie-woopsie bug and redditors will blame the players. which isnt unjustified but blurrs the truth. just like russian propaganda irl...

[@Aknayelth]

Starting to believe? Only now? Ffs 🤣

[@randombastion]

I know I’m surprised I didn’t believe in it earlier

[@Glumbus1]

french players on their way to realise they are just a worse britain

[@lars7747]

@@randombastion literally ages ago they already datamined that multiple russian vehicles had specific code to not get set on fire or to guarantee a ricochet and specific angles instead of having a chance to ricochet.

[@vaguevtx5090]

Not to mention russia has and still does have failure proof lineups of like 5 mbts

[@vaguevtx5090]

Also its worth mentioning that the T55AMD was added at 8.3 and was quite literally one of the best tanks BR for BR and was damn near unkilllable

[@alexmaximus9134]

​@@vaguevtx5090How is that unkillable? It's a T-55 with an APS which is pretty rubbish. Almost any gun can delete that thing easily.

[@Soviet_Stalker_Men]

@@alexmaximus9134 think again... all the helis couldn,t touch it.

[@wallachia4797]

@@alexmaximus9134 You forget a good chunk of vehicles, especially French ones in this BR bracket have only HEAT and literally cannot do anything to the waves of T-55AMD and AM spam.

[@kostab92]

I used to think it matters, but at higher br game is usually over by the time you get in 2nd tank

[@arkroyal1598]

Yeah the kronstadt is just insane.. when i first looked at it through the armor viewer, my first thought was 'pfft, this is all it gets? any BB will easily dunk the magazine' but guess what? its almost as if the kronstadt has some secret armor that makes it neigh impossible for anything to pen it, just insane.

[@doge_sevens]

it can be ammo detonated in the scharnhorst but you can ammo rack it 4 times in a row and it wont die, hell sometimes doesnt even kill more than 2 crew

[@alexmaximus9134]

It's almost like it's a battlecruiser, a mix between the tankiness of a battleship with the speed of a cruiser. And no, the russians aren't the only ones who built battlecruisers.

[@doge_sevens]

@alexmaximus9134 when did we dispute battlecruisers existing? The kron simply never existed all it was was a keel everything in the game on it is made up

[@zohaibtariq7351]

​@@alexmaximus9134battlecruisers get the speed of cruiser,armor of a heavy cruisers and firepower of a BB, nerd And all this should not make it immune to ammo rack explosions

[@alexmaximus9134]

@@zohaibtariq7351 Where did i say that it is immune to ammo rack explosions? I stated that a battlecruiser is a mix between a battleship and a cruiser. Either to strip some armour from a battleship or to enhance the armour of a cruiser.

[@evilreddog]

"no,no,no... it is just the other nations that have bad players" -Russian mains

[@99redpontoons]

They really like to smugly go 'skill issue' while they play the game on Very Easy, huh?

[@jonnybgoode7742]

​@@99redpontoons god do I HATE the mig23... a developer obviously had a dad that flew one or something.

[@tsukasavv6160]

When I heard about gaijin adding the kronshtadt I was like “yeah let’s add a fantasy battle cruiser to help the nation who never had a decent fleet until Cold War era lol” And we have the fact of the adding new vehicles to Russia almost every single update meanwhile other nations didn’t see new vehicles in pretty long time… They can add new things or mechanics into the game but Russia always gonna have a counterpart making them still competitive and the worst part of it is that nobody can do something about it.

[@marocho129]

_And we have the fact of the adding new vehicles to Russia almost every single update meanwhile other nations didn’t see new vehicles in pretty long time…_ That's not a fact, that's just a false claim. The lists of vehicles added in the updates are easily accessible and if you had at least a single look at them you'd know that in past 5 updates, literally every tree got at least 1 vehicle and almost every tree got at least 1 plane. Also in almost every single update there is at least one tree that gets as many, or even more vehicles than Russia. I'm not saying Russia doesn't get special treatment, but what you said is simply not true.

[@MerkavaMk.4]

Some people in Russian forum wanted to add centauro and motherfckn freccia, witch I think is the only unique vehicle in italy, except qn-506 in China but it's from marathon, to USSR nation because "we don't have it in USSR". literally, this is a quote

[@tsukasavv6160]

@@marocho129 I’m not talking about how many vehicles per update they received, I’m talking about how many times they add new vehicles

[@marocho129]

@@tsukasavv6160 bro, you literally said _And we have the fact of the adding new vehicles to Russia almost every single update meanwhile other nations didn’t see new vehicles in pretty long time_ and now you're saying you're not talking about updates? So how did you mean it? Because as far as I know, updates are the main source of vehicles that are being added - in that case I can just repeat what I said - in every update almost every tree gets at least 1 vehicle of each class - you can look it up and check for yourself. If you meant event or battle pass vehicles then yes, Russia gets one in almost every event/season. But so does USA, Germany and quite often also Britain and even Gaijin's arguably least favourite tree - France - again, you can look it up and check for yourself. So, doesn't matter how you look at it, you're just misleading and spreading lies and hate.

[@tsukasavv6160]

@@marocho129 take your pills bro I already clarify myself in less than 4 lines lol I’m talking about how many times gaijin adds vehicles to Russia this coming updates 3 vehicles to Russia, the past update we got the event SU, and the past past update BTR and we can continue with this list *bro* L

[@h.a8681]

We have tens of russian one off prototype vehicles, yet basically none of the iconic British light tanks for example Russia always gets the benefit of the doubt for BRs and vehicle stats, for every other nation its the opposite, they are made as weak as possible. Like the Yal141 getting IRST even though it never had it... Russia also gets straight up fantasy vehicles like the Kronstadt The Challenger 2s (and other NATO mbts) have had their mobility broken for literal YEARS, still not fixed...

[@Stratigoz]

Feel free to make a game yourself and make HATO tanks invincible like all other western companies do.

[@emortalelitegaming2667]

@@Stratigozso instead of making them fair the idea is to make them shit? Your logic is broken

[@emortalelitegaming2667]

@@Stratigozso making western tanks have what they have is not fair? Well I guess it wouldn’t bec Russian tanks truly do suck

[@wallachia4797]

​@@StratigozName me a single western company that makes "HATO" tanks invincible in their game.

[@edenfeledrum1540]

​@@Stratigozgotta love how your first instinct, when discussing some tanks over performing massively in-game, is to stick your fingers in your ears and basically go "well you just want NATO tanks to be invincible".

[@CloudSeven0014]

Finally, someone that goes straight for the bias without any excuses.

[@atvkid0805]

there is no bias you clown

[@killerwolfZurian1171]

kzbin.info0sXldt_k1Hw?si=DzgVAcUxLB1-MDH1 How do you explain this then LMAO

[@romanboi3115]

Straight to bias conformation of bias, you mean

[@mcstevenhouser7317]

The PT-76-57 needs to be in the part 2. That thing was so cracked when it dropped

[@llaammeerr2506]

now we got pt-76-57 part 2 with the 2s38

[@thegermanempire489]

Atleast you had to earn the PT-76-57

[@DaisiesTC]

@@thegermanempire489 Couldn't you have just bought your way into it instead of grinding for it?

[@user-zw5iv9zt2p]

Yet when the PUMA dropped it was nerfed into the ground after week or two :D

[@user-zw5iv9zt2p]

I hate the 2s38 and bmp 2m SO MUCH MAN SOOOO FEKIN MUCH. Those two and the k50 spam is what just simply burns me out of Top Tier. And I am sad about that. because what was the point to grind top tier, if I don't get to enjoy it at all, because it is just unbalanced and unfair....

[@mobius_1163]

Not to mention the SU25s, Ka50s, 52s, Mi28s, and any other Russian plane ability to tank stingers. It literally takes 4+ stingers to kill any of those, ASSUMING THEY DON'T KILL YOU FIRST.

[@loc1123]

"but hurrdurr su52 can survive stinger irl and its built like tank according to official documents!" i swear my hevt begl shells sometimes dont trigger on su25. and there are on average 5 of them per match so you will get spawn killed at least once. gepard dosent lock nearly as fast as competitors and have pathetic range. it really sucks playing anything else than russia at 10.3.

[@kaiotie1]

this is a fact. there's a video where a guy tests stingers vs a SU-25, and it took him 21 stingers to the cockpit to actually take "destroy" it. but even then, it was only a pilot KO, the plane was perfectly fine and carried on flying. its been reported so many times, and never gets fixed. instead, they give them another SU-25 or variant of it. meanwhile, A-10 destroyed by one stinger. same for the Jaguar. same for the Mirage. the only plane that tanks literally 20+ stingers is the SU-25/35.

[@gfimadcat]

Let's not forget the Ka50 (and 52's) magical ability to have their tail shot off (getting you a kill), but yet, they remain alive and well for at least another 30 to 60 seconds. Long enough to rack up some more kills. I've got a replay where I managed to shoot the tail off a Ka50 with my Challenger, got a kill notification, and the guy remained in the air without too many problems for another minute, racking up 3 kills before finally falling out of the sky - and I'm almost guessing that's because he J'd out voluntarily.

[@thisransomguy8533]

​@@gfimadcatpretty sure it can fly without a tail because of tge ritors but yes i agree with you how ridiculous the KA-50 can be

[@fckrasd]

seems skill issue

[@FancyTacoCat_]

The only reason i refuse to play russia is because i see it as easy mode/ baby mode, there is literally no challenge in playing russia

[@Ifuggedyasister]

They have the game on their side.

[@bootlegpete7984]

Literally me. I still haven't gotten to top tier russia yet, still at around rank 4 and 5, but i finished the british, german, japanese, sweden, american and currently doin my french line ups. Zero interest in playing russia just for quality of life.

[@Thund3rBird]

honestly i have recently started Russia (mainly cus of WW2 planes and stuff) and for the reason of playing against them so much i have gone poor when i started playing a week ago i have gone up 200k SL since im winning 90% if the time

[@PaulieLDP]

I have been boycotting Russia for a few months, call it silent protest.

[@CinnamonEllie]

Please do a part Two, we all hate this shit and it needs to be covered.

[@edwardleon9988]

You name is appropriate for that opinion.

[@Watcher-Omega]

Skill issue

[@Aknayelth]

Two russian bots above me ↑

[@Watcher-Omega]

@@Aknayelth uh right here dumb***

[@patrikmokos9864]

​@@Watcher-Omega mega giga L for anyone using "skill issue" term in such a broken game like wt. Like what are you proving? That's your brain is damaged to fit into wt form?

[@stimublu8570]

I think IS6 dont have another layer of armor but an magical shield system: it runs through an check to see if the cannon ball has 350mm(or 300mm) pen left and if not just nullify the shot.

[@PaulieLDP]

And it will never change, Gaijin will never even acknowledge it. Let's hope an unbiased game developer makes a competitor to WT one day.

[@loc1123]

if the playerbase manages to arrange another review bombing perhaps.

[@spacecox8045]

there is ghpc, but we are still waiting for online

[@troglodyte280]

@@spacecox8045ghpc isn’t Arcady enough for most people

[@SkilledKill]

​@@loc1123yeah Gaijin made a few empty promises and the community basically gave up the fight it seems. Player numbers have bounced back, review bombing/boycotting has died down. They even have Enlisted coming up as another P2W cash cow with clear Russian Bias. As far as Gaijin is concerned it's buisness as usual.

[@kyarailumi]

ya we need to crowdfund the new project for better tank battle game but the problem is first we need to find who could make one and have team + ability to delivery the better product that we always expected

[@polar.1943]

I knew that this is a thing, but i didnt know, that this is that insane, please do a part 2 its really interesting.

[@supremegreaser2399]

It’s not THAT insane. Russia is strong, but China is enjoying the highest winrates.

[@crimzonempire4677]

Oh it’s pretty bad

[@supremegreaser2399]

@@crimzonempire4677 Not THAT bad.

[@crimzonempire4677]

@@supremegreaser2399 it is tho lmfao

[@supremegreaser2399]

@@crimzonempire4677 I don't find facing the Ruskis bad at all.

[@fowlWarDog]

Funny half-finished hull that never left dry dock turned fanfic power trip? check Rapid response devs addressing gaps in AA? check Absurd, numerous, and varied CAS elements? check But wait, Tec's list was even longer than mine! I think we're gonna need that follow up video mate

[@mafia7787]

Every other country will get unfinished battleships/batterlcruisers as well. The problem with Kron is fantasy guns, and weird survivability

[@SharpeBalth]

@@mafia7787 The point is Russia didn't need it. They could've just kept using WW1 ships. Everyone else has to make do with that. The Kronk is a farce, introduced years before it needed to be because Gaijin can't handle Russia not being top at everything.

[@automated8493]

Also, it's the knock on effects of things like the Pantsir and KA50/52 etc... The pantsir is so OP that it destroys all friendly CAS, which means you have no air support, whilst the skies are filled with Russian jets and helicopters. The KA helis's killing other helis so easily from range to the point you can't even pop your head over a hill. The helis just sat above their helipad spamming vikhr's across the map without even needing to get into danger.. despite me seeing a video recently of a real KA50 boasting a 'rare' 10km strike where the missile was not very responsive, was wiggling all over the place, the camera view shaking. In WT you can hit 10km with laser accuracy. You shoot a KA50 in the face and it somehow says 'tail damage' and we all know that it has no tail rotor so it's basically an excuse to let it live longer... for a shot to the face, somehow? Every top tier ground RB game I play is just frustrating. If I could veto Russia out of the game and just play against the other nations I'd be much happier and actually enjoy it. Can't wait to see how they get spoilt in this new update where every other nation gets mediocre crap.

[@JakeTheTankmaster]

Our lad TEC spitting pure facts.

[@Stratigoz]

More like spitting bullshit.

[@atvkid0805]

fake news

[@llaammeerr2506]

what are the chances you're a russian main@@atvkid0805

[@boomboomyourdoomdoom1767]

​@@atvkid0805russian bot!

[@atvkid0805]

@@boomboomyourdoomdoom1767 brainwashed russophobe

[@ArthurFK]

good examples for this are the T55am1 and amd1 sitting at the same br 8.7 as the things like the t55m for finland but being a upgraded version with comsite and with aps and the biggest injustice being the object 120 with its 152mm gun with 405mm pen apfsds being downtiered from 7.7 to 7.3 before being uptiered to 8.0 in the recent changes, this puts it back to the were it was at 7.7 basicly. its stupid.

[@goliath3413]

hey man. if you want to play object 120 for free go to china. they have that on top of mbts with autoloaders and commander thermals (you dont need to buy turmst)

[@vascoiraola5209]

Correction🤓: Object 120 pens 350MM. still a lot in 8.7 though

[@goliath3413]

@@vascoiraola5209 but but, free

[@alexmaximus9134]

The T-55AMD is just a T-55 with an APS which is pretty rubbish. The T-55AM-1 is a T-55 with good turret armour. The hull is pretty weak and the gun handling on both is pretty pathetic. It's a T-55, like, how is a T-55 so hard to kill? Just aim to the right of the gun and he's harmless. Or just smack his cupola with APHE. It's not that hard.

[@princessapplestrach6327]

​@@vascoiraola5209nah it's APFSDS pens 405 mm RHA at 0m,0degrees the one thing I can say to justify it's BR is it does almost no damage , the spalling is as bad as APCR

[@marioxcl]

I got the Challenger 2 like past week, literally lost all the matches against USSR, while somehow my shots directly to ammo racks/ fuel tanks, the ERA just somehow deletes my round. Since then i got back to chally 1

[@RazgrizRaptor]

I'm so glad you mentioned the Su-25 because it is the most annoying aircraft to me for all the reasons you mentioned but also because as someone who has flown both it and the A-10 in CAS operations in ground RB, it enrages me to no end that I've had the Su-25 eat up to 4 SAMs, fly home, and repair. Still, the A-10 takes x1 7mm round from a panzer MG. It bursts into flames and breaks my traction control systems for the tail... despite my understanding that the A-10 has the durability and redundant systems to allow it to be controllable while missing an engine, half a wing, and half a tail. and the Pantsir-S pisses me off to no end because of its insane range. because the 20km range is good for "gameplay and balance", they can take away NATO tank features, I could have sworn that the M1A2 had some kind of tracking computer that would detect, range, and lead a target for the crew. if it does have that, it probably was "removed for game balance". I could be wrong, I'm not very knowledgeable with tanks. I'd be more than happy if they reduced that range to 10-12km for the sake of game balance but I know it'll never come. the only hope of getting through that SAM is it being on your team or Gaijin deciding to unbalance the game by giving the USAF the F-117 and B-2 stealth bombers... which I'm struggling to see happen cause it wouldn't be "fair".

[@johanlassen6448]

Correct. IRL A-10 is a FAR superior system to SU-25, but that's the problem. Gaijin can't accept that so they feel the need to trash the US because the Amis are just better.

[@aaroncruz9181]

@@johanlassen6448 Imagine if they released the (Sun) in the game nor does it have 20kms but also launches thermobaric warheads which can destroy the literal air in the area choking anyone who wasn't hit or worse Lancet-3

[@phoenixfire7679]

Please do a Part 2. Without a doubt there's more you missed.

[@veritusahriman9720]

The horror that was the PT-76-57, both in GRB and GSB

[@RedFail1-1]

He 100% said that right at the start of the video. He had to cut out a LOT from the list because there is just too much evidence of bias.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@RedFail1-1 Evidence or 'seems like'?

[@urielOrnstein]

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Evidence. Just look at how the 2a5 and 2a6 were treated when they were annihilating top tier compared to the t80bvm's multi-year reign of terror.

[@llaammeerr2506]

i think another player union is in order

[@Enteropy23]

im gonna save you 24 minutes whoever sees this its cause gaijin is a russian company

[@loc1123]

but that doesnt really explain it... just because they are russian they make russian vehicles stronger? but why? thats the real answer we need. is it just messed up nationalistic pride?

[@Enteropy23]

@@loc1123 nothing wrong with being proud to be russian

[@remipast3347]

@@Enteropy23 I'd argue on that one

[@Enteropy23]

@@remipast3347 lil bro mad he died to a russian on warthunder 😭😭😭😭

[@remipast3347]

@@Enteropy23 huh? Commieboos are the worst players in wt, even worse than wehraboos, only constant handholding from gajombo keeping their wr 50%+

[@LordWaltz]

Let’s not talk about the 9,000mm thick T-34 hatch unless they fixed that which to me is doubtful 😂

[@LewisB3217]

Nope, still there, and t34’s in general at around 3.7 ish are crazy strong armor and gun wise

[@user-us1it7ft6j]

Hit the turret, not the hatch.

[@artemis3829]

​@@LewisB3217I play swedens t34 and I don't really get people who shoot the hatch often but when they do, it's usually a kill

[@mobius_1163]

Literally hit it with the 90mm cannon of the super Pershing and it bounced. I remember I quited the game for 2 months after that

[@bernardobiritiki]

After you mention the balck hole in that the whole of the tiger and the shell sponge that is the Panter mantelet. All you people crying in the comments have a severe and continued case of skill issue

[@mizzar4929]

Content creators should make videos talking specifically about russian bias and proving points + complain about it to see if gaijin stop with this, the community can force em to change

[@joelpepin1744]

I love to finally see a cc speaking about every problem of russian bias. I would love a part 2

[@atvkid0805]

there is no bias you clown

[@arkplayer179]

Most ccs won't touch this topic because they know its bullshit. Every nation of the big 3 has a br they dominate and get a vehicle almost any patch. And as for the spelling issue on russian mbts. Sure it's a problem but nowhere near as commonplace as usa mains make it out to be. I've played plenty both as and against ussr top tier and I don't struggle 1shotting them from the side and I go for disabling shots from the front just like I do against nato tanks.

[@atvkid0805]

@@arkplayer179 The brainwashed xenophobes claim 70% win rate and it's more like 30%. USA propaganda bots spreading misinformation

[@joelpepin1744]

@arkplayer179 not true, tankenstein has sometimes said some words about russian bias and many cc's have spoken about the weakspots and volumetric hell on russian tanks. i think OddBawZ and justinplay and many others named it. what i meant with speaking about is is making a whole video and list every problem to this topic.

[@arkplayer179]

@@joelpepin1744 alright yeah fair enough. I really enjoy the esthetics of russian tanks and I do know the damage model is broken and should be fixed but I also know that a lot of the winrate is due to top tier American 1 death leavers and a lot of the screaming is from abrams and leo2 drivers mad they can't lolpen the thickest armor on the t72 and t80 like they could on the t72 a t72b and the t64s.

[@harlech2]

It's a Russian thing, not a Gaijin thing. Wargaming does the EXACT. SAME. THING.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

The OBJ.279e, the IS7 and the double barrel Russian heavies Lmao

[@wallachia4797]

In recent times, I see War Thunder is moving in a similar direction to World of Tanks in terms of prototype/paper-vehicle bullcrap. Recently they've started adding more and more "prototypes" that let's face it, have no business being in the game...primarily for the Russian tech tree of course.

[@kahel5820]

Superiority complex

[@7Vooby]

​@@PerryDasPlatapusthe worse Russian equipment looks in Ukraine, the better it has to look in game.

[@nates205]

@@ICECAPPEDSKY while WOT does have russian bias, it's not as prevalent nowadays as it seems to be in WT. Obj 279e is the only truly broken tank in the USSR lineup. the other, arguably more broken tank and the most broken tank in the game imo and most of the community would agree is the T95/FV4201 chieftain which is british. There is a good variety for strong tanks at tier 10, not just russian. Obj 277, obj 268 v4 and obj140 are the only really good tech tree USSR tanks at tier 10. IS-7 is still strong but other nations have more competitive heavy tanks. 60TP, Super Conqueror, VZ 55, etc.

[@L3-PP]

people will say gaijin isn't Russian anymore because it moved to Hungary (a tax haven btw) so it cant be bias, but it doesn't change the fact most of the team working on War Thunder still is Russian and using public Russian documents to "Balance" these tanks which are dubious at best Also I would like to bring attention to the CR2's bugs/issues in game as I mostly use them: 1. When turning (worst if moving about 6mph or 10kmph) the inside track does not stop so your turn radius and speed is drastically worse. 2. The TES and 2F have the same armour values on the ERA with the TES being 5.8T heavier. 3. The ERA on the CR2 is 150% less effective against chemical rounds and 833.33% less effective against kinetic rounds than the T-80BVM's Relict ERA (I'm calling bullshit on that (also the Relict has different stats on the side rather than the front and turret although its the same)). 4. The armoured bins for the charges are about 25-30mm thick not 5mm. 5. No light tanks or any moderately fast vehicles other than the CR2E (which should be in the export line with the Vickers btw) to support your line up. (my current line up is: CR2, CR2, CR2, CR2, CR2, ADATS*, Warrior**, Harrier GR.7, AH Mk.1 Apache) * Missile nerf has not been fun ** useless Sorry for the rambling I just wanted to get this off my chest

[@Shindeiru69]

Hungary tax haven wtf? xD We pay 34% taxes here.

[@marc13bautista]

Can't wait for your part two of this TEC talk (lol). Definitely agree with you- especially with naval (arcade). Having a line-up with the SKR-7, PE8 nuke (30 second reload and easy to evade ship AA), I-185, and two speed boats makes matches a bully-fest with the only difficulties being other SK-7s on enemy teams. There isn't much point in playing other nation coastal vessels when the SKR-7 exists at 4.3 to bully other nations.

[@lachsnacken6642]

And don't forget the Pr.406 and 406 M

[@azurefire7266]

The SKR-7 is pure c*ncer, it has no right being this strong

[@bobg3034]

I'm am so glad someone is speaking out on Russia bias!

[@MANNYzZ]

Alot of war thunder creators are russian so we expect some bias, but the bias is way too much

[@LewisB3217]

The devs themselves are Russians, not only the fans

[@dragonbladem6899]

I’d expect there to be some bias regardless of what nation made War Thunder, but the fact that it is so extremely prevalent is honestly just sad, especially for someone who prefers War Thunder over other tank games like WoT

[@DepletedFrost]

i love it when russian MBTs can go straight through the turret cheek of the abrams, specifically on later variants that have upgraded armor packages in that select region

[@RedMetalSuit]

Gaijin never actually upgraded the armor for the abrams tanks

[@allenliu8820]

From what I heard, the tiger 2 105 was added into the game to counter the is 4m that was how broken the is 4m was that they tried to give germany a make believe tank and they still couldn't counter the is 4m.

[@Tuck-Shop]

I still remember having to fight the 4M with a tiger 1. I also remember taking 1 out and the following rage.

[@Zealot2024]

If the HSTV-L was russian they would have given it its IRL penetration and reload.

[@whiskey910]

If the Type 10 would be russian, they'd modified it's stats to be accurate

[@Idk-cz9ms]

Yeah playing Russia with a lineup of t80s and bmps and su25 made the event super easy like hardly lost any games

[@emortalelitegaming2667]

Yea playing USA I have around 4-5 loss streaks compared to 1-2 wins

[@edenfeledrum1540]

The SU25 is a joke. Stingers obviously arent the best anti air missiles but even then it can deal with aircraft with relative ease. Planes like the A10 might take 2 or in some cases even 3 hits to take down but I routinely see the SU25 take upwards of 5 stingers without any noticeable change to flight performance. While spading the SU25 in air RB it would always take at least 2 missiles or a full spray from the enemy to actually kill me. 7 times out of 10 the first hit would do barely any damage that impacted the flight performance.

[@LewisB3217]

@@edenfeledrum1540 nah the a10 will never take 2 hits, I regularly see the su25 take 3 hits (usually 4 then they crash), the damage model is so absurdly broken

[@yureinobbie68]

Glad to see someone talking about the SKR-1/7 problem. I've seen so many games in which they just drive right into the enemy boat spawn. Even if you torpedo them in the tiny invulnerable window you have, they often just survive. I've given up on playing most other nations in Naval, because it's just a chore to run against the SKR wall.

[@xZlotyi]

Also one more advantage that cames to my mind, the number of vehicles in a russian lineup. On every major BR you outnumber the rest of the nations by alot. You can spawn in a long game like 6 - 7 times without any backup used.

[@vizender]

You could do an entire Netflix series on Russian bias if you’d wanted, and have some more to say for a season 2

[@TheDgamesD]

i know you don’t play naval much, but as someone who plays mainly Italy, we had to suffer with no dreadnought/capital warship for over a full year. and in that time frame they added multiple russian top tier capital ships, and i had to fight them with only a Zara and Pola. real fun :)

[@gruminator1]

I would LOVE an answer from Gaijin for this, but i guess it will ignored. And yes. do a part 2.

[@Noone35791]

Thank you so very much for bringing attention to this. Well done!

[@apersondoingthings5689]

I feel the trolly armor ever time I play. I was in a T20, I flank and shot an IS2 in the turret with M62 which has a lot of filler in it. I penetrated the turret and only made the breech yellow and then it killed me

[@lifeontheX]

Thank you TEC, as one of the top English speaking WT channels, for finally saying out loud, what we, like you, have all known for some time.

[@retrograde7156]

My first nation was Britian, getting to top tier with that was pure pain, then i get the T-80UK and feel sad as i just ransack everyone of they're fun. Oh and so far i've only got nukes with russia, i've been close with germany and britian but only successfully got them and dropped them with russia. My first one was with the IS-6 then immeadiately next match got my 2nd, oh and getting nukes in the T-80, who has to worry about getting shot down when you've got the best SPAA and Heli's in the game. Always kept the whole russian bias thing at arms length, i believed in it but just kinda ignored it then playing the T-80 makes me just feel depressed at how rampant it actually is.

[@MrJcn89]

Don't forget Bradley's from the first gulf war shooting t72s with 25 Mike Mike ap rounds and going through the turret face like butter

[@Kwisss]

1) wheres your source? 2) The T-72s were monkey models with no NERA with max 300 mm kinetic protection which is still enough to protect against 25 mm obviously.

[@ruskibot7745]

Thats straight bullshit guy, the TOWs were effective, the 25mm chain gun was not.

[@vector246]

@@Kwisss cough cough t90 getting destroyed by bradlys in ukraine

[@RedMetalSuit]

Also the m1a1 destroying t-72s for example in the battle of 73 wasting

[@RAVEN_SPRING_]

So glad you made this video, I’ve felt the same ever since my first encounter with a Kv-1 then again with the is6 and bmp 2. It’s just crazy how they juice the stats and insecurely lie constantly about the realistic statistics and reasonable br for the vehicles. Honestly can’t with how weak they made the German techtree

[@skyguard155]

The german tech tree is one of the strongest in the game having very competetive lineups at almost every BR.

[@yspear_]

german tech tree is weak? you gotta be trolling

[@dengawr6000]

Germany also has the braindeads on every br that magically can withstand a bunch of hits or get a terrible damage model (direct hit in the ammunition rack - yellow lol). I think that all that bias thinng actualy working because of: 1.gaijin is giving the noobs extra random so they can live longer 2. All game is just a bugged shit

[@Infernoturm_lvl.2]

@@skyguard155 Well if you have wasted more than 20+ d. playtime of your life on ground you may be able to not getting oneshotet cross the map from other 50+ d. near unkillable 4 staks tryhards on russian tonks (279). If you have like 30+ d. playtime you could get in a fight without dien oneshot. But second shot will end your game. :) Above 40+ d. playtime you are able to get kills in a german tank bevor the other tank shots its shot on 1km range or more. All that, if the game even would work proper. (Ghost shells, ping, etc.) [How i see the game from my perspective playin the german and getting every match 1-3 kills while on russian i dominating the lobbys with 10-12 kills]

[@skyguard155]

@@Infernoturm_lvl.2 Sounds like a you problem.

[@alpha1games]

Part 2!! Russia gets everything, but what is everyone else missing?: British light tank tree U.S artillery Top tier AA and CAS that can compete with Russian equipment for almost all nations Sheer volume of MBT's compared to Russian TT, honestly the amount of MBT's they have every other nation should get a free backup every match per MBT Majority of smaller tech trees missing large portions of vehicles that could fill gaps while Russia gets alternatives to use And the main thing that Russia gets that nobody else does is dubiously low repair costs, thankfully its now been brought down for everyone but I remember when the strv122 was 16k to repair and the t80u was about 4k, absolute bollocks

[@misterragnar2521]

2S38 being added before it was even in service and going through trials. It deserves to be 10.3-10.7, if my 9040s are being uptiered it should be too.

[@pulp5084]

You forgot the part where the T-34 Driver hatch was literally unpennable by any round for awhile.

[@kawanaru]

Tbf the entire rest of the upper plate is easily penned by any 75+ mm gun

[@Collat3ralD4mage]

My win rate with the T80BVM is 72% that is INSANE whereas my win rate with the Leo 2a6 is 51% and the M1A2 SEP is 43% if that isn’t bias I don’t know what is

[@flybuilds7084]

That's not bias that's just you doing good with a certain playstyle

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

2A6 used to be king before the BVM and the Abrams before that. If the conclusion behind the reasoning for the imbalance is Russian bias then why has Russia not always been the best?

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@viktoriyaserebryakov2755do you know how short lived any of that was. By the way do you know what Gaijins response to the 2A5 existing was. Oh yeah nerf it’s composite into the floor and release the T80BVM a tank from 2018 to slaughter gimped 1980’s nato tanks and that still hasn’t changed. And the M1 Abrams hasn’t been relevant since it was raised in br and left to rot. The Abrams had a solid few months of being the best tank at it’s br before that was shut down. Russia consistently held the meta in the palm of its hand across the br brackets timeline wise since warthunder was created. The only prayer is when gaijin every now and then gives nato a new tank but then again nothing in the game can pen Russian tanks except for the dinner plate sized driver hatch and lower plate which never spalls anyway

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@ICECAPPEDSKY This sh*t should be easy to plot out visually. As for everything else it is very easy to test in game with a friend. No one has done this yet. Why.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@ICECAPPEDSKY 2A6 2001 not 1980, to BVM. LFP, part of the UFP, driver optics as you mentioned, and what you didn't mention was the breach. Don't know why you skipped that. I'm going to assume you didn't know the 2A6 wasn't from the 80's. BVM to 2A6, LFP and UFP, and of course the breach. If these values are incorrect you could provide a source and then I'll change my mind. If you're arguing that this is proof of Russian bias then you can provide evidence of the manipulated values, that shouldn't be too difficult. The 2A7 will come. I'm not sure what you're asking for. Are you asking for Gaijin to modify the values to be incorrect for the sake of balance (I'm not opposed to this), or are you suggesting Gaijin is intentionally giving false values for either the NATO or the Russian tanks. The latter should be easy to prove if that is the case. As for it 'seeming' like Russian tanks are rigged to perform abnormally, this is easy to test. Go and test it. Short testing with my friend and I see no issues. I play all nations and all nations cause problems. If those issues are skewed then it should be measurable. Not only measurable but detectable in the coding. I haven't seen evidence of this either. Also, in what way was the Abrams shut down? Could you also define what you mean by consistently please. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to my 6.7 Germany.

[@hilmar4391]

Add to the list the IS-6 is a mix of the normal piston engine version (lower weight) and the electric version (more engine power).

[@kupieckorzenny5093]

I have saved a good replay. Very symbolic. Tier 8.3 all nations vs ussr. After 2 minutes from the start usrr captured all bases and started to spawn camp us. After 3 minutes 70% of my team was gone. I have also a screenshot where i played 5 battles in Us vehicle and lost all of them and one in soviet where i won XD I cant send to you this priceless works of gajins art I can send you this

[@Pioneer_DE]

"Russia isn't op" The Pantsir and Russian Helicopters denying air superiority while destroying ground teams with cas: (Btw. I only play Sim Tanks so my experience may be different)

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

No no that’s pretty much ground rb summarized perfectly

[@loc1123]

im at 10.3. at that br its usually 4-6 su25s and 3-4 helis. while my shitty gepard doesnt lock shit and the 4 little missiles get easily flared.

[@KingGuyles]

You could add their ridiculous angle penetration they have for no reason despite history saying otherwise

[@kimtongun3663]

There's proof in the Ukraine War that 3BM25 can pen the upper front plate of a T80, but in game, the L27 round sometimes fails to go through the drivers hatch

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

Hell the 2A5 and Abrams round can’t do shit either even when basic bitch non uranium M829 was able to frontally pen T72’s and T64’s with easy from over 500-1km away in real life. Which by the way that includes the turret. That’s right M829 the basic round could lol pen a T72 and T64’s turret

[@alpha1games]

Don't forget L27A1 was developed by using a T80U purchased from Russia and yet it cannot pen point blank in game without aiming for the drivers periscope, madness

[@kimtongun3663]

@icecappedskies2144 I literally just played a game against Russia in my Challenger 2 and got 10 kills but died because one of the T80s I shot failed to explode when I hit his ammo carousel

[@nakidka.]

No, there isn't

[@FoxtrotStudi0s]

Keep this in mind L/55 DM53 and M829A2 were designed to defeat Kontact 5 equipped Russian MBT's from up to 2000-3000m out. In game these same rounds get caught by even kontact 1 and does 0 damage. Kontact 5 at point blank can tank the rounds made specifically to defeat it. And another side tangent. Where the fuck is M829A3 and L28A1?

[@Anti-Villain-Wolf]

It's extremely frustrating playing almost exclusively on American tech trees and having to deal with the Russian bias garbage. It's very refreshing seeing so many agree that the bias not only exists, but it's out of control, regardless off the cultural reasons. For a while I thought that it was just me being bad at the game, no matter how many guides I watched, or how much I practiced, because most of the time I die its because of Russian vehicles.

[@jigmewangchuk4085]

If Gaijin make a game about Rus vs Ukr they would probably make Javelins ricochet off the T-90s.

[@n0sc0p3dpwnd9]

Fuck a big KZbinr actually speaking out about this in detail actually gives me hope for the community. The people that defend gaijin for this are insane, thanks for this video

[@D-nTh3M-n]

No big yt channel from spookston to phly will outright say there is Russian bias because of the partnership program that Gaijin runs, talk bad against the company you'll get the boot.

[@dingo2148]

You forgot the Big one, Object 120 when it first got introduced

[@smogdanoff7053]

Funny thing about the IS-3, just checked out the armor on it versus the shot L1G, 480mm of pen, like 130 on the slope IIRC. IS-3 had 900mm of effective armor which the conqueror could pen. It couldn’t however pen the 400mm effective parts. Anyways it’s almost impossible to pen that thing frontally now after the APDS buff, weird right. Could shoot through it head on at any range before. Now it can’t even pen the pike sides from a horizontal angle at point blank LOL

[@sumafa6857]

The Mig 29 was a response to the f15 and f16, 2 of the best fighter jets to ever be build. Meanwhile the counter to those jets was terrible against the f15 and f16, BUT in war thunder it is the best jet in game…

[@Lane_300]

I like playing top tier, but it is super painful because of this constant bias.

[@EyyMunchian]

I remember the IS-6 extra armor bug, that was absolutely ridiculous.

[@glizzyman3956]

You forgot the quotations around bug lol

[@DaisiesTC]

Speaking of premium placements, the premium Russian P-39N is at Tier III while the regular one is rank II, making it one of the most popular grinders in the game.

[@wyvernthefox9683]

Japans AA problem could be solved with something as simple as the Type 91 Kai being added. A stinger that can pull 22gs, heavier weight and bigger warhead, immune to DRICM and all IRCM and can't be flared, and can be launched as long as the IRST seeker on the vehicle can lock the enemy air asset (up to 6km from their tests).

[@newtownyard1317]

I've noticed recently, with the announcement of the Indian T-90 in the British tree, a load of Russian players were crying because only the Russian tree should have the T-90.

[@cake363]

Was waiting for this one

[@marianovontrani418]

KV 1 today ate/harmlessly bounced a sideshot near 90 degrees from a round thats supposed to pen 200mm plus(Sturer Emil).

[@llaammeerr2506]

kv1 sitting there casually there with 800mm frontal armor

[@LewisB3217]

Me, seeing a KV1 when my best shell in my entire lineup is 130 pen 😮

[@cairok2097]

Also how the stock grind for russian MBTs is way easier. Almost always the laser rangefinder and thermals are at least 1 modification rank lower than on NATO tanks. For example, to get the laser rangefinder on the 2A6, its 152K RP, while on the BVM, its only 25K RP. They also get very cheap modifications compared to a lot of other NATO tanks at the same BR. For example, a tier 4 modification requires 42K RP for the Ariete AMV, while for the T-80BVM, its only 27K RP.

[@llaammeerr2506]

I wouldn't be surprised if the SL cost of buying mods were lower too

[@LewisB3217]

Whenever I say this they just cry that they don’t get reverse speed

[@i_cri_evertim]

I think Spookston already addressed this issue about Russian-Soviet MBT's not getting destroyed after hitting their ammo carousel. You can search for his video on his channel.

[@Nick-rs5if]

I swear, the KV-1 (ZiS-5) has caused so many players to permanently quit the game over the years. Facing the thing is absolute migraine fuel. On the topic of the high-BR T-series tanks like the T-72, T-80 and T-90. It would be real nice to see changes to their ammo and fuel. We need a War Thunder Turret Tossing Olympics! 😂

[@jonathanfarrell14]

Can we mention the aim54c going Mach 4.3 instead of 5 while the r27 goes 5.8

[@Starkogi]

It’s because if Gaijin doesn’t have Russian Bias they’ll get “annexed, peacefully.” IRL, Over the next 7 years.

[@krysu7777]

I would gladly watch part 2 of this kind of video

[@jonathanpatrick8506]

Have anyone ever noticed that in a certain conflict when the Russian forces gets a mauling for real ,Gaijin ramps up the Russian bias 2 fold. I had games where this have happened when all of a sudden the usual weakness all of a sudden become invulnerable for that day , example the lower glacis of the KV's series . I have played ground when it first came out as I started WT when it was planes only. Believe it or not I never played the Russian tech tree for the first 6 years and yet I was able to hold my own against the Russian bias, especially when I got SPG's of Germany then every Russian tank was game for me.

[@stone1er371]

Me poping Soviet MBT's like nothing with the Leclerc's : " visible confusion "

[@joaopaulovianaladislau4105]

Yeah man, when I play my 2A5/A6, I don't see any difficulty in destroying Russian tanks.

[@llaammeerr2506]

the difficulty comes to the newer players of top tier who can't aim/don't know the weak spots of these tanks. also those spots are small so when those tanks are pushing you will have a harder time aiming for those spots in CQC compared to them aiming for lets say an abrams. another thing to add is earlier top tier mbt's don't have enough penetration to go in as easily through these weak spots like the top mbt of each nation and require more accurate aiming to pen

[@stone1er371]

@@llaammeerr2506 Yeah its more the good old skill issue than russian bias lmao

[@llaammeerr2506]

@@stone1er371 I still believe there is russian bias but yeah not entirely, some people are genuinely shit at the game

[@wildcardcooper7415]

OGs remember when back in days was found that 122mm shell fromIS-2 had same properties like 152mm one from KV-2.

[@llaammeerr2506]

I think the reason why there nations (russia and china) get the most support is because not only is it the company's nation and allied nation but I also believe it's apart of their free to play model to get people frustrated. What other nations to make more powerful than the one you're from. I've also noticed how somehow these nations are less bug prone than other nations