What do the Rat Songs Mean? | Coraline Book Theory - The Fangirl

More Coraline theories! This time I'm going over the songs the rats sing in the Coraline book/graphic novel thanks to letters from Sarah and Karolina!
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[@anilin6353]

If the beldam is a Japanese monster the eyes have another meaning. In Japanese the word for 4 , shi, also means death.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Ooooooh, I had never heard 4 was associated with the word death (and I took Japanese for years in college!). That is very interesting!

[@StarlasAiko]

Which why Japanese prefer to use yon for 4. Both shi and yon are valid, but one would not want to talk about death.

[@Antellars]

@@TheFangirlWatches in Chinese the number 4 is also associated with death.

[@etashanand958]

Well actually it isn’t shi that means death it’s shine (day shin a) and shinu which is the casually saying death died die

[@saysikerightnow475]

etash anand kakyoin

[@tbjoshua8941]

I think you hold the world record for the most coraline theorys congratulations

[@TheFangirlWatches]

lol I don't know it that's an accomplishment or just really sad, but all I hear when I don't post Coraline stuff is "MoRe CoRaLiNe!!!" 😂 Demand has forced supply here!

[@anilin6353]

The theorize might go Megan a run for her money

[@tbjoshua8941]

@@anilin6353 you think 🤔

[@Lucky10279]

@@TheFangirlWatches It's an accomplishment.

[@anilin6353]

@@tbjoshua8941 At least the number two holder he has made a lot of videos.

[@alittleimagination9023]

Remember at the beginning when Coraline finds the well and drops a rock in it. I feel like it "activated" the other world, letting the beldam know someone is there. That was the first interaction with the other world.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Hmm, that is definitely an interesting point! I guess it depends on when you think the doll from the intro is being made. If it was made in the far off past, then Coraline might have activated her own doom!

[@slope4772]

Thought I'd share a piece of interesting prop-play in the film, that I never see mentioned. After Coraline saves her parents from the otherworld, the snowglobe in which her parents were imprisoned, breaks upon entering the real world. Before embarking on the mission to save her parents, we see that the snowglobe contains two snowbears - and when returning, the snowbears are gone - neat foreshadowing that her parents were in the snowglobe (remember we saw the parents freezing inside the mirror), and a subtle easter egg for good eyes.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

What's most interesting is that her parents are shown as snow bears. I thought I recalled them being physically visible in the Other World snow globe. 🤔

[@slope4772]

They were - what I meant was when she returns, and when the snow globe breaks - it’s here we see that the snow bears have vanished, visually signifying that Coraline released them from their prison, so to speak.

[@alittleimagination9023]

I still never understood how they came back. They came back *through the front door* with snow on them. And Coraline point this out, and its like the parents can't even see it. Plus they obviously forgot about being trapped. So like, could they have actually been there at the end and were brainwashed? Or - Ooooohhh. What if the Beldam and other father switch places with Coraline's real parents. And her parents are trapped forever in the other world.

[@deonnacooney135]

@@alittleimagination9023 omg mind blown maybe

[@laughsingay]

The Coraline theories will never end... yay!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

omg I read your user name as part of the comment and I spent way too long trying to figure out what you were laughing in gay! 😂

[@TheStormBolt-gf8qi]

Same

[@Edits-ok3oc]

The Fangirl 😂😂😂

[@trashbasket11]

Ye same TwT it to like 5 hours for me to figure out

[@michelled.4874]

@@TheFangirlWatches I left a message/comment for you in the comment section of your "Coraline Book vs Movie Analysis" video. take care, Michelle.

[@magnificloud]

AHAHAH YES I KNEW U WOULD FIND ANOTHER THING IN THIS MOVIE TO PICK AT I've watched coraline like 500 times and I've only known it existed for like 3 years lmao

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Okay! I think you've beat me on most times watched! lol

[@magnificloud]

@@TheFangirlWatches 😂 not literally. Realistically I think I stopped counting on the 24th time lol

[@Laughys_Madh0use]

New theory idea: How does the Beldam open the door for the "mice"?

[@crazypinkwerewolf]

I love the Coraline theories I also love your channel!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Thank you so much for coming to watch! 💕

[@jdblue9460]

Out of everyone on KZbin, you are the best theorist. I hope you can keep making coraline theories

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Awww thank you so much JD! 💕

[@NoiseDay]

"Do you have goosebumps yet?" Um, YES ACTUALLY

[@StarlasAiko]

The complete first edition collection?

[@acer0255]

Maybe "Tails" has a double meaning. Maybe it's a play on words. It could be they also mean tales. They're a legion of chattering spies. Maybe they pulled Coraline's parents toward The Pink Palace, by whispering tales and influencing their dreams. Before, I suggested that Coraline is actually astral projecting I to another realm. Did the kids who got taken by The Beldam actually, physically go there, or were they in the ghost form we see them in? Why didn't we see Wybee's grandmother's sister? Is it because the first time Coraline went through the portal, she never went back? Something is missing! You've already established that Bobinsky is definitely a dead guy, and the Sisters must be too. These characters don't show up until after Coraline goes through the tunnel. When did the grandma show up? Before or after? What if she IS the missing sister, but thinks otherwise because The Beldam weaved a specific tale for her? What does the doll mean? The Beldam repurposed it to look like Coraline, but who did it look like first? Is it a start of a ritual or does it show that she already has her? In the movie, are we just watching The Beldam play with toys? Or is The Beldam Coraline's super witch, alter ego? Remember the ending? It was all in Coraline's head. The garden was in her head, just like everyone and everything happening in the garden.

[@berrisfueller6221]

Acer 025 Maybe Coraline was so bored that she thought all of it up seeing the mother isn’t so bad but like things could get worse and maybe later at the end of the movie she learns to appreciate her parents more

[@halfofakitty]

Hmm, I think they're both the Beldam and someone else. Just like her fake dad that seemed to care. In faking another face she makes another mind for herself; like a happy me and a sad me, etc, she has a dad-me and a mother-me and a rat-me. All of which seem to have developed their own will. Like the Inside Out movie but with acting like other people.

[@ju2545]

They don’t have free will cuz they’re being completely controlled

[@jacklynhyde1626]

Fangirl, does wybie ever take his gloves off? I just watched a video on you saying how he wears skeleton gloves and how important detail is in this movie. Does this mean something?

[@retromaddy953]

I wish I could send you a letter :( I've been watching and loving your theories for a long time I'm a fan of the fangirl

[@danielasosa3500]

I always though that like the tunnel (in the book), the rats are a different creature then the Belle Dame but that's my interpretation

[@TheFangirlWatches]

The book definitely has some oddities that the movie leaves out. I still never feel like I found a solid answer for what the thing in the corridor was, but it never seemed to be connected directly to the Beldam herself. 🤔

[@howiedavis8258]

Lol how weird that my friend and I were talking about how we love coralline and then this video gets put out. Love your vids especially the coralline ones ❤️❤️❤️

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I could feel your psychic pull telling me to make another video! 😂💕

[@GaarasBFF0911]

You should see 'abitfrank' videos on Coraline. They're great! And she explains the rats so well. Plus, I love her animations. So go support her!!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I have never heard that name before, but VidIQ was doing analytics recommending them to me today!

[@angelzarzosa6447]

I love your hair ❤️

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Thanks it’s Punky Colour brand dye!

[@yomonday3337]

I know you've made a video on the wii coraline game but there is a ds game based on coraline and I think it adds a bit to the lore.

[@halokittiekat]

Needles have eyes too.....I dunno 🤷‍♀️ haha

[@TheFangirlWatches]

oooh, I didn't even think about that, but you're not wrong!

[@OscarBoscar889]

ive watched like, all your coraline theories!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

You deserve a medal! I talk waaaay too much! 😂

[@michelled.4874]

Me too...

[@OscarBoscar889]

i love your coraline videos! i appreciate how much time you put into them.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Thank you so much for coming to watch them! I appreciate so much that you appreciate my efforts. 💕

[@namizou3305]

Yesss!!! I'll never get tired of the Coraline theories!!❤

[@Papyrus_Basket]

This is such a good channel, I love listening to you talk. You are really good at explaining complex aspects of stories in clear detail. Thank you for working so hard and your makeup & hair are gorgeous!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Oh my gosh, thank you so much! I'm just going to sit in the corner and cry happy tears now. 💕

[@Papyrus_Basket]

@@TheFangirlWatches you're welcome❤ Keep being awesome💯⭐😇

[@mischadelage7004]

i agree :D

[@YTSC22]

Please do more! Also, if the ghost children are the pink palace residents, but grown. The Beldam could have raise them with another passion for when they reach old age she could "naturaly die" (like all humans) and keep feeding from their "energy" with another source than "love".

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I think I did cover that idea not too long ago. I know it took me forever to figure out a way that I thought would work for explaining the kids matching the older residents of the Pink Palace.

[@YTSC22]

@@TheFangirlWatches Yes, but i'm not sure how ended your thought about this. Just tried to add another view and give more ideas of theory !!!!!! Love all your videos :) please keep doing this good work.

[@denisejeffries2675]

I rewatch your Coraline playlist regularly, it is a favorite. Always enjoy videos added to it 👍,

[@TheFangirlWatches]

oh my gosh I feel like I owe you a bouquet of flowers for watching that playlist more than once. lol

[@shaynestewart9297]

Never get tired of these theories.The song sounds like a rhyme or a warning. Rats are always lurking witnessing everything that goes on. Just when you think you've got it figured out something else occurs. It's like a puzzle. There are pieces throughout and beyond the eye. You can never fully comprehend.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

That’s fair I suppose, lol.

[@bumbum.__.6229]

What if the cat is also a puppet of the beldam’s and is trying to make coraline want to revolt? Or want to keep going back to try to “fight” her even though the beldam is winning just so she knows coraline keeps coming back?

[@georgekolivoski5843]

I wonder if the rats are a fairy sub class like elves or gnomes or some evil form. Irish mythology says fairies went underground into pocket worlds with the rise of humans destroying natural magic, and I heard when fairies die they turn to sand, much like the rat in the movie does. The stuffing that falls out is more sand like then sawdust like. This would make the Beldam a twisted Santa with more sinister plans, needing a child love magic to fuel herself and her rat fairies.

[@ilvermorny5098]

TheFangirl: *starts* *singing* Whitney Huston: *quaking* *in* *her* *chair* *getting* *her* *wig* *snatched*

[@laylah7806]

Coralline theories are the best 😍😍😍 I hope you do a lot in October! 🎃

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I will hopefully have a few in October at least (we’ll see if any new letters come in) lol.

[@grilledcheesebiotch__270]

So I rewatched the other father scene with the piano, and I couldn't help but notice that his neck/posture differs from the og father

[@briancheuy7703]

I love watching your coraline videos

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I very much appreciate you coming to watch them Brian!

[@phoeniix69]

Love these theories

[@TheFangirlWatches]

lol it's getting hard to keep these fresh, but I'm trying! 😂

[@phoeniix69]

@@TheFangirlWatches PLEASE continue with these they are so entertaining!

[@leia3618]

The idea that the Beldam could extend her reach to other locations is very creepy, very disturbing, and makes a LOT of sense. I mean, think about it: ambush predators don't just happen upon something and immediately pounce; they hear something, TRACK it, watch, and WAIT for the PERFECT moment. That's EXACTLY what the Beldam did: she heard or sensed prey, tracked it, watched, and waited before finally pouncing

[@j_m12341]

I love these theories 😍

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Thank you for coming to watch them! :)

[@joem1480]

I always thought that the rats worked for the even more ancient being that comprises the tunnel, and it amuses them to "serve" the Beldame. If you will note, they don't have button eyes unlike every other creation of the Beldame.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

My memory on the book is a little hazy now, but I think more Other World inhabitants have regular eyes. I know in the movie everyone has those buttons but I seem to recall the book being different there. I should probably buy the book so I can reference things lol!

[@aisadal2521]

Love Coraline!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

She is fun to watch!

[@esguerracj]

.

[@leialovegood]

I was thinking, you know how you were talking about Wybie and Ms. Lovat being in on Coraline's abduction? If this theory isn't correct... How did Ms. Lovat explain to Wybie why she needs this doll back, and why exactly he can't be in the Pink Palace? We see in the movie that Wybie is an adventurous kid, and he must've asked his grandma what exactly happened. Did she say simply she was kidnapped? Because most people wouldn't immediately blame a house because of a kidnapping. He probably questioned her and was suspicious, and to a certain extent I think Wybie would've went inside the house without permission if possible. I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense, let me know what you think!

[@emilythehuman8603]

Ps iv just binge watched every single one of your coraline videos in a row!! All 40+ videos!!! All AMAZING

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Dang girl, you deserve a trophy Emily!

[@user-ks3re2bz6g]

Ι'm so happy you're doing Coraline videos again!! Your content lately has been so great!!!! [not that it wasn't before] You started Harry Potter;Avatar the last airbender AND Coraline that you had to do in a while...You made videos on my most favorite topics and I'm really happy about it!!!!!!!💙💙 I made it to the end!!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I'm so glad! Thank you for coming back continually! 💕 I think next week's video is going to be about Aang's adult years, then something for The Boys before season 2 comes out (if you haven't heard of it, it's an Amazon Prime series about insane super heroes), and then I'm not positive in the order of things after that. But I have a LOT of Avatar and Korra videos in the works! 😅

[@user-ks3re2bz6g]

@@TheFangirlWatches I can't wait!!!! I'm so excited!!! 🤩🤩🤩

[@cosmic_tiger2245]

Thank you for responding to my other comments I also did comment on your shining video about how Wendy could shine scary parts in coraline and you gave me Harley Quinn vibes I can’t believe you responded to all of them thank you so much

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I try to acknowledge people who come back to comment :) Thanks for coming again!

[@cosmic_tiger2245]

The Fangirl Just a little Coraline Theory could the Beldam be trapped in the other world against her own will forcing to feed off the children it seems She does love them but she’s forced to do this because something is telling her to do it

[@cosmic_tiger2245]

The Fangirl do you know when the beldam shape shift too I think when she does it she looks a little bit like the mothers that she was previously so I don’t think she would have hair in her normal form like you said we’re not sure if this is the final form since she doesn’t have Flesh she doesn’t have hair follicles so I don’t think hair would be automatically growing

[@ju2545]

And when Coraline didn’t wanna stay she got angry and that’s why she was mean

[@ju2545]

Maybe the rats mean that “We were here before you fell” maybe they mean that Coraline will die to the Other Mother and maybe the “you will be here when we rise” part means the rats 🐀 will rise to her and they will control her so they “rise” to control

[@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety]

Awesome video! I hope the Coraline Lego Ideas gets voted in!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Coraline LEGOs would be awesome!

[@deathviller]

I think coraline is the last soul to collect for the Beldame before she rises to another transformation and there is another monster looming in the tunnel after the magic disappears it could be a cat or maybe a Basilisk from Harry Potter just a thought. Cheers mia Martin

[@what0-084]

The fangirl always have something to pick at in Coraline X3 it’ll never endddd

[@TheStormBolt-gf8qi]

Dang i need a CORALINE SHIRT

[@broughtontaylor8142]

I've got an interesting theory about the rat songs. In the book it states the exact lyrics. I listened to the instrumental of the jumping mice scene and found that the beats of the rat's song strangley matched up with the instrumental. In the book, it says the rats were spys for the beldam, and when Coraline entered the other world, the rats sang the song again and Coraline found the tune strangely familiar. There is no correlation to the tune at the beginning of the movie, but I want to do some more investigating lol.

[@mikaylawilliams7213]

I like you. You think about things no one else does. It's great!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

lol I try to keep it fresh here

[@deathviller]

You are right I think the rats are trying to give Coraline a warning about the beldame's true form after the big bang at the end will symbolize another transformation to the other world becomes the void before the Beldame dies off

[@cassie-bv9sn]

I was on your old theories and it just hit me about what the Beldam is. Clashing with the theorizer saying she once was a human what if the other mother somehow turned into a fairy but since she was not a natural born fairy she had to find something to live off and she found a way to do so by eating off a child's love for a person or parents or like their soles and since she was once a human blinded by human hunger and greed forms into what she is but then fairies trap her and block up the well and i also think that the Beldam once roamed the earth and the fairies just put her down their but she somehow carved a door and made a gateway into the real world but so the fairies couldn't find her she decided to lour children in with games and things that a child would DREAM of so she fools them like it's a dream sequence so they keep on coming back then she lours them in during the day and then SWOOP takes them then when this happened 3 times HUMANS locked her up in their with a key and then the beldam has to live off of her sewing materials to give herself a physical body but if the Beldam dies the HUMAN BODY dies so that magic is still going wonder but the world will become nothing but a white box but if Coraline were to wonder into their and mess with that magic wondering then the Beldam's body will be summoned back but somehow it's fresh and new and not sewing materials and everything comes back. there's my core theory :)

[@trixxart777]

Also in some illustrations of the book the beldam has a lot more sharp snake like teeth she kind of looks like meduca

[@kristynheagberg1270]

Have you ever read the poem La Belle Dame sans merci by John Keats? I've always thought the Beldam could be the same or at least similar to the one from the poem. The main difference is in the poem the Belle Dame traps men and not children, but both lure their victims in with love and treats and the latest victim sees the spirits of past victims. It is a short poem so I would suggest checking it out if you haven't.

[@tbjoshua8941]

I just thought i dont mind if you cant do this but have you been thinking of reacting to the theorizer coraline theorys 1 to 3 not forceing you

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I actually have not thought about doing that as a stand alone video. It's rare that I react to any other theories, I think the only times I have so far are the Tim Burton Theory, Woody being a prototype, and the King of the Hill Bobby's dad theory (both of which were so bad I couldn't stay quiet!). I know early on I did touch on my thoughts for some of The Theorizer's Coraline theories, but I honestly hate critiquing other people's theories because everyone thinks differently and I am not trying to kick up any more drama for myself lol. This ain't the beauty community! 😂

[@tbjoshua8941]

Okay thanks for telling

[@lanathejackman3336]

" wheezing gurgling shaking quaking before your very eyes Its your body theyl be taking and soon you soul will fry"

[@hoodwinkedwriting4237]

What if all the rats are past beldam's? You said in past videos that the beldam can see into the future and that there is one beldam for each child. When she dies, she has to go somewhere, so what if each beldam turns into rats and that's why they know of the past and future. Thats why they say they were there before Coraline was and be there when she isn't anymore

[@curtisgannon8475]

Love your channel the fan girl! I’ve been watching your videos for 2 years and I love every video!💗💗💗, I’ve got many theories on Coraline if you want to hear them! Also where did you get that stunning shirt from?

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Thank you so much! I think this shirt came from Hot Topic, if not it was their sister store Box Lunch. It’s a tank top but I have a sweater thing over it lol. Oh, but instead of telling me your theories, you should totally make some videos of your own! That would be so fun! :)

[@curtisgannon8475]

The Fangirl The Fangirl oooh I shall treat myself, I think it’s time for a trip to hot topic, and I’ll try to draft something together and see how a video goes, really want to dig into it all, especially coraline! But I do have something to challenge one of your theories! I hope you could make a video of this: you say that the beldam can only create carbon copies of people who have already been to the other world, but then I wondered, how can she create a perfect copy of Mel, Charlie, and wybie, I know the doll can see them but she wouldn’t know the full measurements and dimensions of the person, and also, how can she not create replicas of coralines friends in the picture but yet she knows how they sound like, that part doesn’t make sense, and as you say she can only create copies of people who have only been to the other world, so I doubt that Mel, Charlie or wybie have ever been there, especially wybie as his grandma forbid him from even going into the pink palace, what are your thoughts on this, Don’t worry, just wanted to challenge you, I love theorists! Hope you will continue to make coraline theories! And also, when you said the Jones’s are broke and Charlie’s laptop wasn’t a plot hole, in a deleted scene, Mel asks charlie ‘why he doesn’t just get a laptop’ and Charlie replies with ‘what are they giving them away now?’ So your theories are correct again! You are on the theorizers level now! Once again, love this channel!🧡

[@trixxart777]

It also could parallel the rat king since he's an imagination of a group of rats

[@johnmorgan8558]

I think the beldams tail is that spiny thing that she uses as a bustle for her dresses. Also I wonder if she needs the actual eyes of the kids to escape. Like she needs all eight eyes to find her way through the portal to get out. O-O

[@TheFangirlWatches]

hmmm, you know, I don't think it occurred to me that she would have collected 8 eyes at this point (one child eye for each of her spider eyes!). In the book they say "souls," which makes more sense since the movie shows the kids to have 2 eyes turn into 1 spherical object. But, you might be onto something there!

[@lolastoychannel2263]

I haven’t seen it but I really want to and I will but I’ll just try to understand it a little bit better when I watch it

[@JoeMama-kj7bq]

I think they were just trying to warn Coraline or make her go back to the normal world, since the song isn't the happy type and at that time, the Beldam wasn't angry at her, so she wouldn't want to scare her and plus, Other Wybie and Other Father both tried to help Coraline, so maybe the only real villain is the Beldam. Also, that song wouldn't make Coraline want to stay in the other world, or atleast it wouldn't make me want to stay. The song sounds kinda threatening. Another reason why I think this is because they told Bobinsky to warn Coraline about the door. I just thought of something kinda sad and dark, yet kinda funny...If we assume that once the Beldam dies, her creations die and if we assume Coraline actually made it out, does that mean that there are tons of little dead rats with sawdust coming out of them in Bobinsky's apartment?

[@lemonyhysteria2432]

Your hair is in.. familiar and lovely colours 💜💖

[@crimsonblack9774]

Yay video on my birthday August sixth :) i was always confused about the rat songs in the books creepy as hell

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Oh my gosh HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 💕💕💕

[@crimsonblack9774]

@@TheFangirlWatches it was I love all your coraline videos and just started the book and rats tie with hallway for the creepiest thing

[@charlettelogan4354]

This was really interesting , I made it to the end lol I always try my best to do that .

[@TheFangirlWatches]

"I always try my best to do that" Me: Oh no! Am I boring and making people struggle to get to the end?! 😱 😂 I love you for being here Charlette, and thank you for putting up with me! 💕

[@charlettelogan4354]

@@TheFangirlWatches hehe nah your not boring . Aww your welcome . I love your theory's

[@heidibarker9550]

Is anyone else just happy to see positivity, so glad to see happiness here.

[@Toy_story_and_beyond]

Hi I love your content

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Thank you so much! You're user name is really cool! 🕶

[@Toy_story_and_beyond]

@@TheFangirlWatches thx

[@Dragonlove3]

Love this videos 😀❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Thank you so much for coming again! 💕

[@nicolebaxter2629]

All time favorite theories; aka coraline theories!!!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

It is so open ended there’s room for a million theories here lol.

[@missycatz1145]

Her mom got into an accident what if they’re dead and in purgatory Edit: after re watching the movie I think that the family have passed but each in their own way haven’t accepted it. In many mythologies the person who has died has to go through some trial or some level of hell to reach paradise in her case a happy family and getting to be in the garden. For her parents it’s having something successful and not having to worry about money or other things to cause stress in your adult life and the life of being parents. for Coraline she has the other world it’s temptations and it’s challenges to go through to reach what is heaven for her.

[@orleansartist6095]

Have you ever thought about this? Most of the time wells were dug near the house. Why is it so far away?

[@squeaktheswan2007]

Despite it being based on the movie, the rats do in fact sing in the DS game. Not the melody, but the dialogue boxes do have it. And since the DS game is more faithful to the movie than the X box game, you could technically use this to bridge this piece of lore in the book and the movie.

[@emilythehuman8603]

More coraline!!!!

[@lolastoychannel2263]

Great news I’ve seen it so it all makes a lot of sense

[@SuperPlushJosh]

Nice theory, also nice alien remix pops

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I LOVE those Alien cosplay Pops! I just casually grab a Funko here or there when I see one I like, but this was the first time I was like "I'M BUYING THE WHOLE SET NOW!" 😂

[@SuperPlushJosh]

@@TheFangirlWatches😂 I'm going to buy them eventually, there is even more coming out including wall e

[@spongeduck7086]

I really want a horror film version of coraline

[@karencartman4510]

What do you think about Miss Spink and Forcible being a confirmed lesbian couple do you think that has any relevance to any of your theories or the movie and a whole?

[@karencartman4510]

This could possibly be related to them being past beldam’s in some sense but any theory you have on that would be really interesting

[@saternprestest]

For keeping track of the letters you could make an excel file with the Names, address, and letter contents summery and a Yes or no for weather you responded and mailed them

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Usually I don't have enough mail at one time to need a system, but you might be right that I'll have to try that moving forward. Thanks for the tip!

[@lrhannon]

Do a video on the song about the boure

[@deathgun3408]

What about the start of coraline when the other mother made the doll what the sounds then?

[@HEISADOPPHIN]

The rats in the books are epic and deserved to be in the movie.

[@heidibarker9550]

I'm still slightly convinced that the souls of the ghost children are eternally bound to the pink palace just like the bedlam is. I believe that the ghost boy is Bobinsky and the two ghost girls are miss Spink and Forcible, coraline would then be a permanent inhabitant of the pink palace. Ps made it to the end of the video

[@YellowBear-kx1ff]

Why were you so eager to call Cinderella “passive” in your video about her Fairy Godmother? Like you said in it, she had no power in her chateau, it takes courage to be so kind despite all, but BECAUSE she had no power, it was either that life or be on the street. She HAD to be passive because if she tried to stand up for herself or did anything to her stepfamily, she would be kicked out. She is also NOT a pushover, as seen in her interactions with Lucifer. Same goes with Snow White. She too had no power in the Evil Queen’s castle. She too would’ve been kicked out if she said a bad word or stood up for herself. Also, she is a firm mother figure for the dwarfs. If she was as passive as what people make her out to be, she would’ve just let the dwarfs do what they want.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Kind of a weird place to bring up past Disney videos 😂 But, I don't know when I'm releasing it yet, however I have already finished a video covering my issues with Cinderella and her lack of agency. Until then, I'd recommend a live action movie called Ever After that showed the same Cinderella story with a much different personality for Cinderella. Although, if you watch the 1950 animated version, Cinderella isn't trying to be kind. She gets in trouble multiple times and ends up biting her tongue because she is afraid(?) of Lady Tremaine.

[@dakotamartinez8310]

I still think Coraline is a confusing, and mysterious story for the book, comic, and movie. Thank you for this video. I hope you are well.☺

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I’m not sure there’s anything that can make Coraline less confusing. I thought it was all due to movie plot holes, but the book is even worse for not explaining things (although, Gaiman in general is horrible to explain the why’s behind any things or events).

[@muffinthegemini618]

Here for it

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Glad to hear it! Hope it was worth the wait!

[@theunitedcommonwealth715]

Im going to be writing a Coraline 2 fanfiction soon it's going to be a lot more horrifying then the movie and I think book when I finish it would you like to read it ?.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

The movie kind of freaked me out super hard (until I got desensitized to it), I’m not sure if I want all those nightmare if your fanfic is more hardcore than that! lol. But hey, send me a link when it’s done and I’ll see how far I can get!

[@divishagarwal1234]

I had a question ... According to your limbo pink palace theory Coraline never actually left the other world ...but that would also mean that she disappeared from the real world ... wouldn't that rise suspicion ? Wouldn't people question why so many kids just disappear from the pink palace ?

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I'd say there's a few people who would be wary of the Pink Palace, but what can they prove? If the police search the house, they'll only find a bricked up crawl space, so they'd probably report it as a runaway or abducted child case and look for her elsewhere. Timeline wise, the kids who are disappearing are vanishing decades apart. Even in a small town, people tend to have a short memory, so there's no one who's alive that even remembers that 4 kids have gone missing in that house. I think it would be easy enough to avoid a lot of suspicion, except from people like Mrs. Lovat who KNOW what happened to their sister.

[@divishagarwal1234]

@@TheFangirlWatches omg you actually replied !!! And yeah that actually makes a lot of sense 😅 Thank you 💙

[@jakaylahjohnson8474]

I love her

[@hihiytyt3849]

Finally!

[@TheFangirlWatches]

lol you’ll get it when you get it! :)

[@hihiytyt3849]

This comment wasn’t supposed to be mean. Sorry.

[@yukiko347]

I am thinking of the theory where the belldame is stuck there. Perhaps the rats are a species of a sort of Colo Colo. That a handfull might have somehow became subservient to the Belldame, why there is only a few. (Theoretically)-maybe one of the parents came to the pink palace and one of the rats hitched a ride to see what the personal life of Coraline might be gathering that info. And Depinding if the resident's do leave the premise or if someone goes over towarda the premise to bring new dogs. The colo colo could be sparingly feasting on. Dog saliva if their is no knew people who come in.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

I don’t recall hearing of Colo Colo before, but they do sound very interesting! Thanks for sharing the info!

[@yukiko347]

@@TheFangirlWatches No prob. Bouncing off of your theory is fun.

[@guccithesnail]

ok so what if the rats in the book were like chanting that song to her in her sleep

[@halfofakitty]

May I put an irrelevant head-canon here? I think Beetlejuice previously had a good marriage but felt stifled by the box he thought he was put into with it and divorced her even though she let him do as he pleased. "(internally) see? this is what I wanted, right? the babes! that's why I left her, right? No, I miss her, I want to be married again." And everyone in the Labyrinth in The Labyrinth is Jareth

[@sophiemazal]

i think "we were here before you fell" is the rats referring to themselves being in the other world before Coraline got there. I think the rats might not be puppets or things made by the beldam, I think they were actual, real, rats from the normal world.

[@lemonace6695]

I think they may be not necessaraly real rats but something that lived there before Beldam, they were the original habitants of the otherwworld and that is why she'll be there when they rose, as if Coraline defeats the Beldam the world will be theirs again

[@sophiemazal]

@@lemonace6695 thats a great theory!! i never thought of that before

[@lemonace6695]

@@sophiemazal thanks : )

[@lilhedgehog8576]

We are small but we are many we are many we are small we were here before you rose we will be here when you fall. We have Teeth And we have tails we have tails and we have eyes we were here before you fell you will be here when we rise. We Have eyes and we have Nerveses We have tails and we have teeth you’ll all get what you deserveses when we rise from underneath

[@geddyw]

If the theory holds true that the other world is at the bottom of the well, then Coraline theoretically "fell" down the well/tunnel into the beldam's trap

[@ann-claireyoung640]

Something I was thinking was that when it said “when we rise” I was thinking of the ghost children, and when it said “when you fall” I was thinking of when the Beldam pushed Coraline into the mirror.

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Oh that’s an interesting way to think about it. The song is so cryptic is works in a dozen different ways!

[@magagguie]

I just watched the video twice bc it was so interesting! And it just make sense that if the beldam comes from the outside world then she can come out again under some circumstance. 🌍🤔🕸️

[@TheFangirlWatches]

Wow, thank you! I’m so glad you liked it! I think after I go through all these letters I need to take another stab at covering what the Beldam is.

[@GenAqua]

Meghan is an awesome singer.

[@mathieuleader8601]

the beldam is an old british term for a witch Could you do this theory I have its from A Muppets Christmas Carol what if the ghost of Christmas Past in that movie was the daughter that Scrooge and Belle was meant to have but Belle aborted it

[@courtneycoghlan1894]

Honestly all 4 songs tie together