What will Purdue look like in a post-Zach Edey world? | CBB's Burning Questions

What will Purdue look like in a post-Zach Edey world? | CBB's Burning Questions | DTF PODCAST

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@BradensBeard3 Ай бұрын

They went to the elite 8 the year robs talking about and Trevion is the same height as TKR. TO is so clueless it’s crazy.

@Gstigs11 Ай бұрын

shot away from the final 4 lol diakite magic

@mecreature123 Ай бұрын

You guys need to remember you gave Purdue a D- off season grade last year.

@TheFieldOf68 Ай бұрын

LOL @mecreature123 maybe you need to remember to take your meds kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6fIi6erjrtoidEsi=Jsa4IEGt8VXHGd0b

@mecreature123 Ай бұрын

@@TheFieldOf68 Probably so. Sorry, I was referring to : Purdue and Memphis have been THE most DISAPPOINTING teams this offseason!! | TRANSFER PORTAL LATEST. I see.... pre Edey returned. My Bad

@dlaird8 Ай бұрын

@@TheFieldOf68 No. You constantly sh@t on Purdue. Its a trend.

@Bakers924 Ай бұрын

Matt Painter is an elite coach. No one thought the Purdue would be as good as they were two years ago. Purdue will be no worse than a 4 seed in the the NCAA tournament.

@BradensBeard3 Ай бұрын

@@Bakers924 absolutely. They’ve been a 4 seed or better in 8 straight tournaments. People act like Purdue is done now that Edey is gone, but Purdue has been a very good regular season team for the last decade. Edey absolutely played a huge roll in getting them over the hump in March and getting them to a final 4, but as far as the regular season goes they’ve been as consistently good as any team in the sport for the last 10 years.

@skiboy88243 Ай бұрын

Being a 4 seed, or higher, and losing in the first 2 rounds as often as Painter does not make him an elite Coach. For that, look to Lawrence and Storrs.

@BradensBeard3 Ай бұрын

⁠@@skiboy88243he is absolutely an elite coach. He rarely loses in the first round. He’s made the sweet 16 in 5 of the last 7 tournaments. He has one massive first weekend upset loss. He’s lost some other games in March that he should’ve won for sure, but hes still made the second weekend more often than not. Hes also developed a ton of talent and gotten the most out of under recruited guys. Anyone thats not a complete hater recognizes him an a top 10 coach in the sport.

@nickyeoman2125 Ай бұрын

Painter has won with his best player being a swing guard like Jaden Ivey, Painter has won with his best player being an undersized guard like Carsen Edwards, Painter won with his best player being an undersized PF/C like Trevion Williams. Painter won with an unspectacular balanced core when he had Thompson, Mathias, Haas and Vince Edwards. Painter won when he had a spectacular blue chip core like Hummel, Johnson and Moore and he won when Hummel got hurt too. Like….I’m sorry, Matt Painter has earned the benefit of the doubt and he’ll figure it out without Zach Edey. I think they will make the tournament easily and they are a second weekend team.

@jethrotroll5442 Ай бұрын

They werent a 'second weekend team' 2 years ago, with the POY. In other words, there are no guarantees. And to be honest, it's not like Purdue has had tons of past success in the NCAAs to begin with. So, try to keep it real.

@falconhoward4032 Ай бұрын

People claimed Purdue would be nothing after Ivey left and they immediately followed it up with back to back record breaking seasons

@falconhoward4032 Ай бұрын

@@jethrotroll5442 Purdue has been to 5 of the last 7 Sweet Sixteens and is among the top teams in the country in NCAA tournament wins in that span

@jethrotroll5442 Ай бұрын

@@falconhoward4032 Yep, it's been a good run, arguable the best in their entire history. However, my point is still valid. Purdue hasnt exactly been a program that's been relevant in March. And there's legitimate questions as to what this Purdue squad will be without Edey now.

@andy_in_colorado7060 Ай бұрын

I just hope I don't have to wait another 44 years! Whatever happens this year, happens, but I think Purdue will be better than expected by many.

@AngryBoilerFan Ай бұрын

UConn has ZERO pop. wtf are you on TO??? Myles didn’t play much cuz there was a logjam at the 2/3 spot, he’s gonna get a LOT of shots this year, same with Heide. Heide is gonna play 30 mins a game and is the defensive stopper. Myles is also gonna play 25ish mins a game and is gonna get so so many shots. I promise you there is not going to be NEAR as big a fall off as you think TO. Purdue will be a top 3 team in the B1G and will likely win it.

@cordercorder8785 Ай бұрын

But is winning the big ten that big of a feather in your cap right now. Big ten has been bad for awhile now and every year people keep saying they are back but it has yet to be seen.

@falconhoward4032 Ай бұрын

Colvin also started out the year as a liability defensively. He was also just a true freshman on a dominant team. By the end of the year, his defense was vastly improved and he carved himself out a consistent role within the rotation. He was also efficient and shot the hell out of the 3 ball. Now he gets to step into a major opportunity and will have every chance to break out, especially with how Purdue is going to change their system and be oriented more around floor spacing and driving lanes, which is especially beneficial to the athleticism of Colvin and Heide

@daveymoore883 Ай бұрын

Nobody had Purdue being any good two years ago when Smith and Loyer were freshmen, and they were top 5 all year. We'll just have to wait and see who steps up this year.

@falconhoward4032 Ай бұрын

This is a highly talented Purdue roster. Dude needs to do his homework

@JeffParks4159 Ай бұрын

I have always listened to TO's breakdown of the game and have a lot of respect for his analysis. "Hard to win the Kentucky Derby with Shetland ponies". No amount of respect could result in giving TO's quote being anything other than calling Purdue's lineup trash. Respect of his opinion has diminished somewhat.

@mattbleuer5011 Ай бұрын

I have to agree with TO, hard to see how Purdue can be dominant with this roster. However, TKR and Smith are primed to be huge stars this year. Question is who steps up as prime time scorer when those guys are held in check?

@colebucket6009 Ай бұрын

Yeah they won’t be dominant. But they’ll be something like a four seed. This team is talented

@TylersTTT Ай бұрын

The 2019 team had freshman Trevion Williams at 6'10 and Sophomore Matt Haarms at 7'3 with Haarms starting

@drewvandervoort576 Ай бұрын

we have another 7'4 dude coming in with Jacobsen that can shoot too

@slammin2445 Ай бұрын

Unless Braden can become a primary 3 level scorer I’m not sure how high the ceiling is for this team. Yes Painter is an elite coach and yes smith can set the table with his passing. But I’m not seeing how the offense can reach its ceiling without Edey creating doubles and no one becoming a primary scorer. Only way I see is if 1 of Colvin or Heide makes that jump and TKR becomes an all B10 1st or 2nd teamer.

@cordercorder8785 Ай бұрын

Thank you. I’m not saying somebody can’t emerge as that guy but as of right now I don’t know who that would be and neither does anybody else. Losing edey isn’t just about losing a big man down low. It’s losing one of the most dominate big men down low who drew double team after double team and also helped get other teams bigs in foul trouble. A lot more to this loss than just rebounding and scoring.

@jethrotroll5442 Ай бұрын

Easily the best post in a thread full of fanboy posts. Purdue has a lot of questions and concerns to address this upcoming season. I think they'll be good, but growing pains are coming early as they transition without Edey on the floor. Guys finding their roles and learning how to fit in and fit together without the back to back POY on the team. Smith gets tons of hype, but its not like he's this big, athletic guard that can physically dominate the opponent. It will be interesting to see what he and this team looks like without Edey.

@falconhoward4032 Ай бұрын

I mean he's basically a 3 level scorer already with how well Purdue bigs are taught to set Gortat screens. He will have scoop layups with people concerned about his shot or his passing, he's a great mid range shooter, and his 3pt percentage speaks for itself. Don't forget he was also an absolute offensive dynamo in HS in the toughest conference in the state and won Mr Indiana Basketball because of it. The shooting around him will also make his job much easier and help his efficiency

@nathanwalden224 Ай бұрын

That off-season Purdue went to the elite 8 with Edwards they lost 4 of their 5 starters, the next year was a hard season to watch sometimes (Edwards shot around 20% from 3), but they won the big 10 and we're a shot away from the final 4. Painters philosophy revolves around finding players who care more about the team than themselves, then figuring out who the best player is and giving them the ball. I think he has the talent you be about to make something out of what he has, but we'll see. By many accounts that 2019 season should have been the worst season Purdue has had under Painter

@dlaird8 Ай бұрын

Braden Smith will be the best point guard in the country for the next two years. Period.

@BradensBeard3 Ай бұрын

2 Purdue IU games do happen every year. Nice idea….

@colinmurphy3707 Ай бұрын

This team won’t end up being a top 25 team. Mark my word

@falconhoward4032 Ай бұрын

Iowa is going to be mediocre this year and Purdue has dominated that matchup

@schlichter11 Ай бұрын

Prediction: The Big Ten isn't any better than it was lsat year, Purdue will vie for the Big10 title and likely be ~4 seed in the NCAA getting to the elite 8. They'll play 5 out for starters then shift the game by bringing in Berg or Jacobsen and moving TKR to the 4. Opponents will have to play and prepare against both styles and won't know how to respond. Purdue will lead the Big10 in 3's made and attempted. Crucial stat will be rebounding.

@jethrotroll5442 Ай бұрын

LOL OK, so now we know what a fanboy prediction looks like.

@falconhoward4032 Ай бұрын

The Big Ten is definitely worse than it was last year

@jeffseibt Ай бұрын

I don't understand the lack of confidence in Wil Berg

@toddlash4782 Ай бұрын

No way Purdue is top 10 this year. Much respect, but that is a fantasy.

@edalbanese6310 Ай бұрын

Hope you are wrong. Hope to visit this comment either way in couple of months.

@toddlash4782 Ай бұрын

@@edalbanese6310 Fair enough. No shade. I respect the program, I just doubt the product this year. Will always hope you are better than Indiana!

@1829glct Ай бұрын

Listening to TO speak makes me get so much dumber, not good for my IQ. Wish I could listen to the rest of this video but I need to protect my brain cells

@anthonylennen4067 Ай бұрын

Well we play Bama on 11-15 so we’ll find out pretty quickly.

@PeeedaPan Ай бұрын

They might be in the top half of the B1G

@AngryBoilerFan Ай бұрын

You have no brain

@jacksonbrunner7018 Ай бұрын

Lol might? They'll win the league.

@edalbanese6310 Ай бұрын

Did you say that IL will beat them too last year?

@gts8361 Ай бұрын

Oglesby is so bad at this. When we he learn about Purdue? Ha “pop”? That’s such a nothing take.

@dlaird8 Ай бұрын

Purdue will win the big title again next year red cheeks.

@whosjohnny54 Ай бұрын

cracks me up that people underestimate one of the smartest court sensed player that Fletcher Loyer is. hes possibly the BEST shooter in basketball. stick Will Berg in there who is 7'2 and the team gets back to the title game. Fletcher Loyer will lead the team in scoring

@edalbanese6310 Ай бұрын

Loyer hit nothing in the NC game.

@whosjohnny54 Ай бұрын

@@edalbanese6310 no one did but Edey that game. Look at the other 4 games

@SaltyB88 Ай бұрын

LOL 4th in the B10? What a joke

@kellenkrug7295 Ай бұрын

They went 16-15 the year after Carson

@AngryBoilerFan Ай бұрын

this isn’t the same. The Carsen years had a non scorer at C in Matt Haarms and it was a faster more 3 pointer focused team. This is gonna be a similar team to Carsen’s teams. TKR will score 12-14 ppg or more and Smith/Loyer/Colvin/Heide will be bombing 3’s. Smith will be tossing lobs to Heide and Myles and Daniel Jacobsen will be backing TKR up at center for 12-15 mins a game. Its gonna be great

@cordercorder8785 Ай бұрын

@@AngryBoilerFanthat sounds all good on paper but don’t think that’s how it’s going to go. Not saying Purdue won’t be top 25 or anything but a lot of that will have to do with how bad the big ten is going to be agin.

@dlaird8 Ай бұрын

Who is the bald guy? Painter has size after Edey. Is he the same guy that said Purdue would suck last year?

@YTSparty Ай бұрын

It will certainly be easier to call FOULS on Purdue now.

@edalbanese6310 Ай бұрын

ahahah let's see with the 7.2 and 7.4 centers...but easier for sure.

@YTSparty Ай бұрын

@@edalbanese6310 Seriously, that's who Purdue has now? MSU now has 3 guys around 7'. How much do they weight?

@edalbanese6310 Ай бұрын

@@YTSparty the 7.4 is freshman and skiny. the 7.2 is much better, he has muscle and heavier (sorry dont know the weight) but not sure how he will perform. his name is Will Berg, from Sweden

@YTSparty Ай бұрын

@@edalbanese6310 yeah Edey was pretty unique. Being tall doesn't mean much if you can't run or make a shot. A lot of teams have a 7 foot bench warmer. I would be shocked if Purdue found another Edey. But Purdue seems to love the big guy posting scheme.

@carlw6247 Ай бұрын

@@edalbanese6310 Jacobsen weighs 230 lbs and Berg weighs 260 lbs (compared to Edey's 300 lbs from last season), according to the Purdue roster page. No problem in that 260-lb weigh for Berg. He's just not a 2-time player of the year. Very few are. In rough terms, Purdue will be good this season, but not great, because Edey was/is a truly great player who made everyone around him better. BTW, it seems Jacobson has a lot of potential. BTG teams better jump on Purdue when they can, since I'd guess Purdue will be a favorite to win the conference by the season after this coming one. That is very little time for a few other teams to capitalize, and Purdue will still be near the top this season. So, Purdue fans should be happy with their present team and excited about how that team will develop.

@HMStanley4 Ай бұрын

The guards in Big 10 are better and at times bigger than last year. Purdue thinks its strength is in its guards. Even Rutgers will give their guards trouble Jamichael and Jeremiah are really good Defenders and Harper, Acuff,etc are really big guards. How does Fletcher operate (include on defense). Go to Indiana...guards...USC...guards...etc...did no even mention Illini

@jacobwatts308 Ай бұрын

Purdue played “bigger more athletic guards” all year last year and beat those teams except for UConn, who happened to be one of the best teams in the last 20 years or maybe even more

@HMStanley4 Ай бұрын

@@jacobwatts308 Edey helped the guards until Edey had to play against his equal

@jarvisda Ай бұрын

Purdue will win their third straight outright regular season title!

@BradensBeard3 Ай бұрын

TO will gas up some random mountain west team but acts like Purdue won’t be top 3 in the weak Big Ten. Insane. Dude doesn’t know ball.

@tkamel18 Ай бұрын

He knows ball and I agree with him. I’ve been watching Purdue since painter took over as a 2005 Alum. Grew up on Louisville Cardinal hoops before that (Denny Crum and his titles in the 80s). The UConn game proved that the backcourt isn’t effective vs elite talent when Edey isn’t double teamed. Edey was a major cheat code and he’s gone now. Smith and Loyer not athletic enough without Edey down low. TKR Colvin and Heide all good but not quick enough laterally. We will be good but not great.

@BradensBeard3 Ай бұрын

@@tkamel18 the UConn game against 5 NBA players did not prove anything. It proved UConn was an elite team and the best team in the country. I’m not sure if you noticed but UConn did that to every team they faced. 95+% of the teams on Purdue’s schedule aren’t even remotely comparable to last year’s UConn team. The only team on their schedule with anywhere near that level of talent this season is Alabama. Using 1 game against UConn is an awful example. Look at other games they played against top 25 teams. Teams that were very good but not arguably one of the best teams we’ve seen in the last decade (UConn). Games against Tennessee, Gonzaga, Illinois, Utah State, Michigan State, Arizona, Marquette, etc. One of, if not both, Braden and Loyer put up very good numbers in all of those games.

@colebucket6009 Ай бұрын

@@tkamel18UConn has two top 7 defensively focused picks. Two more guys that got drafted second round , and another that will be likely first round next year. They’re a great team. Purdue will be more athletic at the guard and wing this year. As good over all as last year ? No. But still a big ten contender and a top 15 ish team

@tkamel18 Ай бұрын

@@colebucket6009 I think we will finish with around 20-23 wins. Not great but not horrible. Tourney team. Maybe s16. Painter had to keep Catchings and figured out how to make it work. He was a key loss this season.

@colebucket6009 Ай бұрын

@@tkamel18 I think they’re gonna be ranked pretty much all year and maybe get as high as 10. And this is a down year. Sweet 16ish is absolutely fine. Don’t underestimate painter.