Boeing 747 Breaks Up Immediately After Takeoff Over New York (With Real Audio)

A Boeing 747 operating as TWA Flight 800 takes off from New York JFK Airport on a routine flight to Paris, France. However, 12 minutes after liftoff, the aircraft explodes in mid-air. 9 years earlier, another Boeing 747 broke up in mid-air and crashed into the Ocean. Find out what really happened.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:18 Pre-flight Preparation
1:00 Flight Crew
1:48 Technical Problems
2:50 Departure
3:17 Real Audio Communications
4:20 Mid-Air Explosion
6:10 ATC Recordings
7:05 Investigation
9:28 B747 Prepares for Flight 295
11:17 Departure from Taiwan
11:42 Fire on Board (Real Audio)
13:28 CVR Failure
13:50 ATC Communications
15:14 Aircraft on Fire
15:45 Crash
16:24 Investigation

[@LBCORP1960]

There were 16 high school French club students from central Pennsylvania who were on TWA 800 to visit France. Their parents took a video of them at JFK airport just before boarding the plane. They were all so excited to go. I think of them every time I see the story of TWA 800.😢

[@donnageorge2761]

That is the first thing I ever think of too, young people with their whole life ahead of them how horrible for everybody that had loved ones on this plane

[@paulwoodford1984]

final destination 1 😂

[@craigfinnegan8534]

I still think of those 16 kids, too. For me it's a minor coincidence that I sat next to a high school exchange student from PA on my way to study at the University of Cape Town in 1984. The adventurous idealism is so strong at moments like that. I also think of a young recent hire among the flight attendants on board TWA 800. A male friend of hers later recounted how excited she was to have been given the Paris route so soon. It's one of those haunting stories of a forbidden paradise.

[@paulwoodford1984]

Oh well, we are alive. that’s the main thing @@craigfinnegan8534

[@nobull9541]

Why are you laughing at a tragedy?

[@kenb3552]

My neighbor, who I had known since my childhood, was the head steward onboard TWA 800 when it exploded. Just a few days before, maybe a week, I had seen him mowing his lawn and we had waved to each other. You never know when.

[@brettstreutker9603]

Ken....you NEVER know when....thank you for your comment.....

[@AlexandreG]

20 bucks says that man doesn't exist and you're just attention thirsty

[@kenb3552]

@@AlexandreG 20 bucks says you're just an @hole. But I should make a correction - he was not the head steward on that particular flight. He was a head steward for TWA, but on that flight he was catching a freebee to Paris. His body was also one of the first, if not the first, to be recovered and identified. You can look it up. His initials were WD.

[@AlexandreG]

@@kenb3552 oh WD, that one, I know him too! Huge family friend, used to gather around the a fire eating grilled pork and telling beautiful tales. Good times

[@kenb3552]

@@AlexandreG BTW - Just Google the crash to find articles from the evening and following day that it happened, You can easily find who I am talking about. His picture was featured in many of the initial articles. But of course, you're just too lazy of an @hole to actually put that much effort into it. Skid mark.

[@Is308enough]

I’ll always remember TWA flight 800. The day it went down, my father was told he had terminal cancer and he’d be lucky to live another year. Exactly 1 year to the day, he passed away at 57yrs from the cancer that killed him. That afternoon my brother and I were watching the tv, and the family/friends of those lost from flight 800 were throwing roses into the ocean. So the pain of losing my father is associated with those that lost loved ones on that flight. Life is precious. And I pray for those that suddenly lost loved ones in August 1997.

[@karlacuello-uo7tw]

I’m so sorry 😞

[@Is308enough]

@@karlacuello-uo7tw Thank you. I have been blessed with many wonderful memories of him. Thank you again for your kindness.

[@mattneal5257]

Sorry about your father. May he Rest In Peace

[@letapearson2043]

Hello, I understand you miss your father and I can tell how much you loved him! God bless you!❤️

[@growing.flowers]

I’m so sorry ☹️

[@nancykaufmann3993]

I was in Ireland when TWA 800 happened and was totally freaked out, as we had just taken off from JFK days before and I was assuming a terrorist attack. Even worse, I later met a man whose daughter had been on the plane as part of the class trip from Montoursville PA. His son saw it on the news and asked his Dad what flight his sister had been on. The Dad didn’t remember and went to check her flight info. One can only imagine how his heart dropped when he saw it - TWA 800.

[@SizedPrune20010]

no.. that is so depressing.. god.. :(

[@jyellowhammer]

It was an attack without question. Just covered up.

[@shch1673]

I was packing to fly on TWA the next morning when I saw it on the news. I was a little freaked out.

[@StevieSeagal]

@@jyellowhammer Bingo! Multiple witnesses off long island and jersey interviews on the news, a streaking light shot up from the surface of the water and they watched that light go all the way up and end in a massive explosion and fireball. The fireball went up and then careened back down and plummeted until landing in the ocean and disappearing. These witnesses lived on different parts of the island, did not know each other, and each description of what they saw, was exactly the same. Welp, after a couple days, those interviews were no longer shown and all evidence of those interviews are lost. We were in my dorm room when they did the testimonies and showed the spark in the fuel tank video and all of us recalled the interviews of the witnesses. All of us were laughing at the screen during the deposition and demonstration saying "Look they're fkin lying man!!!" It was the day we were all RP'd, and we woke up to how evil the gov really is, the day that changed all of our lives. Godspeed to all the victims of this event. P.S. I saw you are becoming a pilot, congrats man. I would have been a helicopter pilot, I was 20 hours deep and flew the R44 like a pro, until I got a DUI and the FAA grounded me, ended up losing everything due to that poor choice. One can only hope some youngsters read this and never, ever drink and drive like I did.

[@julosx]

@@StevieSeagal 100 % bullshit.

[@roberthoffhines5419]

the "God bless him" from Virgin 009 haunts me. The flight decks from those two other flights were the fit to know there was absolutely no hope.

[@donnix1192]

It really is chilling comment from the Captain of Stinger B507- an Eastwind Air 737-a lot those people died horrific deaths. The complete opposite of Al Haynes “want to be particular and make it a runway” line.

[@flyguyry1]

​@@donnix1192fill me in on Al haynes line

[@enigmawyoming5201]

Imagine experiencing that while in flight and control of your own aircraft. I wonder if the thought ever crossed their minds “Are we next?” Some rogue country shooting down passenger planes? Or an EMP anomaly? Or….. ???

[@martindunstan8043]

​@@enigmawyoming5201it must go through their minds I think, it would mine, how frightening.

[@enigmawyoming5201]

@@martindunstan8043 - Yeah, it’s not like “This plane I just saw disintegrate is just like my plane I’m responsible for. Things like a passenger plane blowing up in the sky happens all the time. No big deal”.

[@norte7549]

there’s a beautiful memorial for TWA 800 at the TWA museum in kansas city. there’s a glass slab etched with a poem, a model of a 747 suspended in clouds and a recovered piece of debris from one of the plane’s cargo bins. the museum is definitely worth a visit, even just for that alone

[@PostUp_Time]

kansas city? the plane left from NYC. HOW INSULTING TO THE DECEASED

[@glennhoddle10]

@@PostUp_Time The one in Kansas City is just a small memorial within the TWA museum. The actual large dedicated TWA Flight 800 Memorial is located at Smith’s Point Beach at Suffolk County’s Smith Point County Park, Fire Island, Central Long Island in New York.

[@richanddebshawaiiadventure4340]

what kind of morbid ass stupid shit is that? I was at the beach when it went down - we don't carry on like that - have a museum in your bullshit state dedicated to meth heads and stealing gas - k?

[@LLCNet21]

It is not insulting. Once you are gone it doesn’t matter if they put the memorial on the moon.

[@Kahluhagirl71]

I will never forget this tragedy. My neighbors, the Benjamin's, were on that flight. They were going to see their child. What sorrow our little PA town had. On going prayers to all the families and the Benjamin family.

[@RD-zj6vc]

Mr. Benjamin was my Computer teacher at Masterman the year or two before this.

[@gonnahavemesomefun]

Just reading that I really felt the emotion "what sorrow our little PA down had" -awful to read. I am so sorry.

[@christiecraig1144]

😭😭😭

[@Kahluhagirl71]

@@RD-zj6vc 😔

[@julosx]

Among the dead was also Marcel Dadi, an expert guitar player pretty well known back then. He was someone who really mattered to me, one of his records was one of my childhood favourites. He was traveling with the Guitar & Keyboards magazine chief editor. I still remember the competely black front page of the October '96 number. Inside, a small picture of Dadi and the chief editor (can't remember his name) and a few words. R.I.P.

[@mysterymayhem7020]

my uncle was one of the last people to place an item on that aircraft. He worked for TWA and was responsible for cargo placement for emergencies. He placed a heart on board for a transplant overseas. His hair turned white within 1 week because of this and the interviews from the FBI.

[@JJ-bo6nc]

Poor man:( I wonder too if heart recipient survived..

[@Sniperboy5551]

@JJ-bo6nc Well, I’d be careful assuming they were a recipient…

[@tueregomez2851]

​@@Sniperboy5551huh???

[@horacerumpole7629]

That's the one hit by a missle

[@GJM866]

BS you troll....not buyin it. What was his name so we can check your claim?

[@Liz-cmc313]

RIP to all those lives. I can't imagine the horror they felt.

[@billykulim5202]

the error in aircraft are so frequent and become habits for pilot to turn off those false alarm, which is cause those kind of incident, should the pilot trust those alarm and send someone to check the cargo bay to put out the fire , they probably still have high chance of survival

[@paulwoodford1984]

it was definitely a bomb on board

[@billykulim5202]

@@paulwoodford1984not true,,, it was lithium battery on a computer in cargo that cause fire

[@democracyforall]

What is really stupid about some Engineering designs is that even in a car you could see how much feul you had in 1996, so how did an aircraft of that size did not have a same kind of system like the car has to show the pilot how much petrol he had????

[@stoneneils]

I can, which is why I stopped flying for anything other than family weddings/funerals. I'm not dying for a vacation or business deal. My bud as a intl salesman..his plane dropped suddenly once due to major turbulence one flight injuring many..emergency landing..he got ptsd, quit and never worked in the same capacity again.

[@botman234langer6]

This has got to be one of the most horrific ways to die couldn't imagine the horror rip to the 230 people who lost their lives ❤

[@bowlchamps37]

It was pretty quick, you lose consciousness really fast.

[@ligmasack9038]

@@bowlchamps37 not at only 16,000ft.

[@Sebastian-xl7vd]

@@ligmasack9038 at what altidude do you do?

[@normantor]

I always find the ValueJet crash in the Everglades to be the most horrific of all of them.

[@cchris874]

@@ligmasack9038 For most people I am guessing c20K feet, but it was said the JAL Flight 123 pilots were not on oxygen even higher than that, and were still conscious .

[@margeebechyne8642]

Wow! I think in the first crash, what happened with the cockpit separating and the fire with the passengers, death must have happened very quickly. But the second had so much time for all, including the passengers, to be absolutely terrifed. So horrible. RIP to all those souls. Thank you for this excellent presentation.

[@stellakowalski1]

Yes! Exactly. The people on South African Airlines 295 were alive as the fire took hold and steadily got worse. The plane was a 747-200 Combi, 2/3rds passengers, 1/3 cargo. The plane was nicknamed The Heldeberg. The crew tried to put it out but it was too far advanced. All this time the passengers in the cabin were conscious, but increasingly incapacitated by the toxic smoke that filled the cabin. At one point they altogether rushed to the front of the cabin in an attempt to get as far away from the fire as possible. I can’t imagine the terror they felt, knowing they were not going to get out alive.

[@vintvarner16]

I'm not so sure passengers would have had a very violent whip lash at the first explosion that literally decapitated people internally by hitting their heads against the seats in front of them. 2 major fires and 72% of passengers being sucked out also, they found 202 possible remains out of the 230 passengers 183 died instantly due to being pulled out of plane or the violent whiplash 15 passengers they are not sure if immediately fatal 4 we're not immediately fatal (all in same section Remaining 28, not enough remains to determine No matter what still totally horrible

[@andrew_koala2974]

It is the Flight Deck It ceased being a CockPit when WoMen became commercial Pilots Otherwise - it would be a PussyPit So get the point and educate yourself to a higher level

[@YAWSSSSSS]

I saw a CNN article from 1997 that stated that according to autopsies majority of passengers were gone before the plane hit the water but as many as 40+ were possibly conscious before the plane hit the ocean.

[@meTimetraveler]

the jet was hit with 5 surface to air missiles, they have over 80 sworn avadavats from people on the ground including 2x E6's flying in a helicopter if anyone would know what a SAM would look like they would. On your streaming TV search for TWA FLIGHT 800.......FOR THE TRUTH.

[@jrosalia]

I live 2 miles up the road from the beach near where the crash was. There is a beautiful memorial with flags from every country passengers were from

[@gabrielle-AV-n-PFloyd]

My father who was a United Airlines pilot for 34 years thought the military accidentally shot it down..he was distrustful of our government anyway so was not surprised he thought that when I asked his opinion. Miss you Papa! Miss talking to you about all things aviation!. James Hykes UAL Captain (from 1960-1994)

[@alci720]

A local NYC newspaper that was named The Village Voice had a detailed investigative report on the strong possibilities that it was accidentally shot down by a Naval ship due to Naval exercises occurring at the same time in the Atlantic. I remember TWA 800 and I still have those newspaper articles. (I live in NYC).

[@dfuher968]

Im sorry for the loss of ur father. I too have lost my father and miss him dearly. However, the shootdown theory has been long disproven. There simply were no ships, planes or anything else anywhere near enough to shoot a missile. It is believed, that those, who thought, they saw a missile, actually saw the "headless" burning plane ascending, then stalling and dropping to the ocean. And believe me, even if the NTSB and the FAA would cover for the US military like that, we in the rest of the world would not. And there were several other nationalities onboard, whose agencies also investigated.

[@BrakRulesAll]

@@dfuher968 Disproven? Nonsense. It's plain as day when you examine ALL of the facts and eyewitness accounts.

[@jayphilipwilliamsaviation]

@@BrakRulesAll Nothing to see here, Mr. Collins. Move along.

[@flipnap2112]

@@dfuher968 thats ridiculous. who "disproved" it. the government? pff ha ha.. they indeed had a sub with trident missiles onboard and they were running training missions. Do you really think the government wouldn't try to hide that? if you do, then you dont know the thousands of horrific thing our own government has done. They WANT you to think this is a crazy conspiracy theory. they accidentally shot the plane down and dozens of witnesses saw the trident heading toward the plane. They were all interviewed the night it happened but then they were never played again.

[@ronaryel6445]

As I recall, in the late 1990s and early 2000s fueling procedures changed so that as fuel emptied from a tank, nitrogen gas replaced it, preventing fires from igniting, and fire sensors have been improved in cargo holds, along with regulations concerning the transport of Lithium ion batteries, which have an inherently higher risk of overheating and explosion and burn fiercely.

[@ImperrfectStranger]

Other changes included those made to fuel system electrical circuit breaker design, fuel pump design, fuel pump activation logic, flight deck warnings and flight crew/ maintenance procedures.

[@scottfranco1962]

There was a long fight about that. The military used nitrogen to put inert atmosphere in their fuel tanks, but of course their need was greater. They get shot at. The airline industry resisted the fill mandate, claiming it would cost too much. The winner ended up being a system that captured spent gases from the engine. Its like your car exhaust, it can't burn twice. This saved having to carry tanks of nitrogen. Cargo holds are a different thing. They figured out that fires will put themselves out if you seal the compartment from air, it basically consumes the oxygen and dies. The counter proof for this was the airline that went down because it was carrying oxygen generators, since it made its own oxygen and burned though the cargo hold. It was a very stupid move to carry that cargo, and it was misidentified.

[@klocknerdeutz]

(Most) airliners now also have a nitrogen generation system, to counter the fumes in an empty(ing) tank.

[@ImperrfectStranger]

@@scottfranco1962 I'm trying to remember what they did with the excess oxygen after they extracted the nitrogen from the bleed air. I recall that was a hazard in itself

[@LLS710]

@@scottfranco1962 You're awesome. I love when people who have great knowledge go into detail.

[@nicholasbloom2414]

My father was part of the recovery efforts of the Heldeberg off of Maurituis as a medic. It was widely believed in South Africa at the time that the accident was due to an explosive placed on board. He says the search efforts left a permanent scar on his memory owing to the debris that they located containing children's clothes and toys.

[@mindyschocolate]

Ahhhh, all those people, and the person waiting for their transplant… that is awful. Out of all the videos on this channel I have seen, the way this plane broke apart and how everyone died had to have been the most frightening thing ever. Imagine being a passenger and seeing the cockpit blown away and there is NOTHING you can do to save yourself, same with the guys free falling in the cockpit. Horrific.

[@darrettp]

Imagine knowing two of the people who died on that plane.

[@johniii8147]

I'd actually prefer that when it's my time vs years of suffering.

[@israelgynosanya3129]

@@johniii8147no you wont. Just say anything for the sake of it.

[@mikeydrookie351]

i would think that the pressure was so great upon separation the people remaining at the very least lost consciousness.

[@johniii8147]

@@israelgynosanya3129 No I really mean it. Watched to much suffering at this point in life. I do feel bad for the affected, but when it's my time I want it over quick. This all happened very quickly.

[@RomNYC]

Never realized 800 was transporting an organ for transplant. I hope the recipient is okay today and that there's at least one survivor from this tragedy.

[@calummacleod2107]

I think a tragedy is something that’s unavoidable like the person who needed a organ transplant, flying is a choice and a stupid one at that.

[@GunnerRDS]

@@calummacleod2107 230 people dying in terror through no fault of their own isn't a tragedy? But the potential death of a hypothetical organ recipient who likely didn't take proper care of their body is? Um, okay

[@camsmith7811]

@@calummacleod2107 What the hell are you talking about? Why do you think flying is a "stupid" choice? lmao

[@danielshannon6027]

@@calummacleod2107 Enjoy your bike ride to Europe. Btw, going to other countries by boat is also more dangerous than flying.

[@kcpoodlesofpa]

I was thinking about that too. Tragic on both ends

[@stlram5]

I was a flight attendant for TWA when this happened. One of the worst nights of my life, and many of my brothers and sisters in the industry. When something like this happens, we're all family even if you're with another airline. It hurts just as much. We all have our own ideas of what really happened, and I'm going to keep my version to myself. Speculate all you want, I'm not going to divulge. Safe to say July 17 still stings even after 27 years. R.I.P. to my brothers and sisters aboard Flight 800.

[@anthroposmetron4475]

Fine words. I bet you've got some stories to tell from that period.

[@stlram5]

@@anthroposmetron4475 It was definitely a different time in the airline industry. I hear about the differences today from my friends who still fly.

[@LLS710]

Papa, papa, PLEASE tel us what you think happened! (I must add that if I was as close to retirement in my profession as I am but worked in your field instead, THAT would've sent me into retirement a wee bit early).

[@ej7692]

Well said. I will never forget the non-rev flight I flew so often. 😔

[@Killerbee67]

@stiram5 my very first flight was TWA 800. My parents where from France and we went there to visit. I was about 7 years old. The Flight Attendants where so good to me it was the best memory. I later became a Flight Attendant myself. I remember exactly where I was when flight 800 went down.. RIP to all the crew and passengers.

[@linsees]

I remember this so well. I was in Puerto Rico visiting my family during this crash. JFK is one of the airports I always left from as I live in the New York City area. I was just a little girl, ten years old. I think this was the first time I was ever confronted with an actual plane crash and the possibility of a plane crashing. I was flying home the next day, and I was terrified to get on that plane. Planes were second nature to me, I had flown my entire life multiple times a year. I felt so much empathy for those families. I remember hearing the story of the dad who lost his wife and two little girls. It reminded me of my dad staying behind as I usually traveled with my mother and sister. This one definitely changed me and even though I was ten, I was truly understanding the fragility of life.

[@janibeg3247]

i well remember that tragedy. A group of American French language students were on their way to Paris on TWA flight 800. My wife made that trip years earlier as a student.

[@godoftheinterwebz]

I remember that Some of the kids had a premonition and got off the flight, avoiding the crash. But Death hunted them down and killed them in horrific ways annyway

[@daniellageorgiou-norman2244]

@@godoftheinterwebzfinal destination

[@-bubby9633]

​@@godoftheinterwebznow you know what final destination was based on

[@godoftheinterwebz]

@@-bubby9633 This and the Key bridge

[@xMandalorex]

The most aggressive crash imo, when the cockpit is gone? the engines go into OVERDRIVE and max speed.

[@psalm2forliberty577]

Amazing what truly UNBELIEVABLE stories dishonest folks push, when all the available eyewitness testimony says opposite. Might as well say it, here we are 27 years later, many reading this were kids when this happened. I was 32 and remember minute details, and thought "wow, now that corrupt Bi!! C!inton is in, look how the FB! are now a pack of L I A R S. Boy how prophetic in retrospect, which shows how one large coverup leads to more coverups. But, I digress. Back to TWA FLIGHT ✈️: That clear as crystal summer eve over Long Island Sound, dozens or even hundreds of witnesses saw + later TOLD FB! they "saw an umistakable flight exhaust trail & heard the noise of a fast streaking airborne object (many said, pointedly, 'missle') suddenly fireball as it impacted and exploded the large passenger jet directly overhead" as it tried & failed to continue on its flight ✈️. Instead it's flaming wreckage with hundreds of bodies rained down in full public view. You'd have thought this would have been headlines, but NO ! Instead the FB! agent phalanx fanned out to "cancel the story" by THREATENING every single citizen who dared say the verboten word "Miss!e". I'll let others speculate as to "why" suppress that damning narrative for one farfetched and uncorroborated, of a gas tank explosion. All I can say is, that day in 1996, I realized that certain parts of what claims to be our Government (if NOT Constitutional, they're "FAKE NEWS" Agencies run by Dark powers) had become actual enemies of the Average American Citizen, by whose "consent they govern". Not so much ! Things have gotten better OR worse since then, my fellow Americans ?

[@Ash888Mohd]

They uploaded this video like last year, I watched it like 6 times already and it’s so sad The other pilot say “ it’s him , god bless him “ 😢

[@kylieharrison3782]

Imagine being the passengers and staff on the first flight. Wete they fortunate enough to promptly loose consciousness or were they conscious long enough to understand that the cockpit had fallen from cabin? 😥

[@peterc.1618]

@@kylieharrison3782 The aircraft broke in two behind the first few rows of seats so the people immediately behind that would definitely have knows that the cockpit had gone. How long they remained conscious thereafter is uncertain. I wonder whether the flight crew realised the extent of the damage or whether they thought the aircraft was still in one piece as it went down.

[@gregdolecki8530]

It's called overspeed.

[@jyellowhammer]

I was on the TWA flight number just before this one. Coming back from Europe. Hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm now training to be an airline pilot.

[@rongendron8705]

That was 27 years ago & you're now training to be an airline pilot! Were you a child then? I worked the night shift that night in Nassau Cty. (law enforcement) & was delayed getting to work, by the emergency vehicles heading to the nearest land to the crash! I also used to load 747's at JFK with food, in the 70's & no one is going to tell me that it wasn't a bomb or missile! R.I.P.

[@jyellowhammer]

@@rongendron8705 I had just graduated high school. Taught School for 15 years and got fed up and started flying.

[@northernsoutherngirl]

Both of these stories were so very painful to watch.😪 I'm already squeamish about flying. So I can't imagine being on either of those flights & realizing how scared those people had to have been.😢R.I.P. to all the lives lost on both flights.

[@gillianbrookwell1678]

Yes, It's put me off ever flying again.

[@lordgod9958]

It seems horrible but statistically it's way safer than driving. If you collide at 70+mph on a busy highway or lose traction due to ice or water the result probably would still be quite lethal

[@techspeak5801]

​@gillianbrookwell1678 highly unlikely you will ever be involved in such an incident. These ones serve to make flying safer for all of us.

[@JWUniverse]

Ironically the Pilot of the Eastland Airlines was also in a Major Incident that could have crashed his plane a few years earlier but landed Safely. It was a problem with the 737’s at that time that lead to 2 Crashes about a few years apart. Now he witnessed the events of TWA 800! That man must have had more Therapy than anyone could have imagined! Hope he’s doing ok nowadays!

[@ryancarlson8959]

Yes the rudder hard over on approach.

[@JWUniverse]

@@ryancarlson8959 Yes

[@lindabarrett5631]

Horrific. I can't imagine the terror of those passengers.

[@cchris874]

For the TWA, the coroner stated the vast majority died instantly due to broken neck. I've never trusted these kinds of statements since one wonders if they are sugar coated for the sake of the families.

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

What happen to the patient waiting for the organ??🤦🏻‍♂️😦

[@lindabarrett5631]

@andersonrodriguez8258 I wondered that, too. Both families.

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

@@cchris874a lot of them were for sure alive until it hit the sea

[@jokerchrist2545]

I've seen many NTSB animations and have read up on many air accidents during my flight training. TWA 800 is one of the most horrific. It's easy to be disconnected and not really understand the gravity of what's happening in this video, but the recreation at 5:00 grounds you immediately. I don't know if it's the poor quality or the realization that what appears to be a small little rc plane on the screen is a real jumbo jet with hundreds on board. I hope I never have to see anything like that in my career.

[@dfuher968]

Its a very extensively covered accident, and Ive seen the animation several times b4. Every single time, all I can think is, plz, plz, plz, let them have lost consciousness quickly.

[@donnix1192]

@@dfuher968”God bless them” from the Virgin Air pilot, I hope they lost consciousness quick but many were alive to know they were staring at death with the front of the plane gone from their sight.

[@adriennekliger3005]

As a frequent domestic flyer, and sometimes overseas traveler, I’m always aware in the back of my mind of what could happen at any moment while flying. It’s the terror of watching your own death happening in real time that freaks me out and sometimes makes me wonder why I continue to climb on board of these “flying machines” when any small mistake made by well-intentioned humans could be the end of us. Still, I know that flying is safer than driving. It’s just that the type of death is so much more terrifying (imo) in an air crash vs a car accident. Peace be upon all those who have died this way.

[@LLS710]

LOL, did you really have to use GROUNDS you immediately to describe what happened to them, not us?

[@miaflyer2376]

​@adriennekliger3005 - Yes indeed, but there's no need to freak out about flying if you were to live, work, and play at a nice place where you don't have to fly away from.

[@JohnDoe-pd9sl]

I remember this vividly, was at an FAA event when it happened. A LOT of people saw a surface to air streak hit this plane. The NTSB is pretty creative though.

[@someotherdude]

That is true, and some were 'credible' witnesses- specifically, one was a pilot and one was a commercial ship captain.

[@TK-mf5in]

Yeah I heard that Bigfoot fired a stinger from Atlantis and took it down. Deep state is covering it up because of something super deep-statey

[@DFYLA72]

Someone comes out stating this the govt has to arrest them proving it true, or call them a liar to maintain the lie.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

I love their crappy animation for the gullible public to consume.

[@mariuskuhrau761]

Please note that Helderberg disaster was the main reason, why Boeing stopped the production of the B747 Combi version. It just so happen that at the time of this disaster, I was busy with my training as a ATC at the old Jan Smuts Airport. The true cause of the fire on the main deck was never established, and South Africa was also deep in the grips of a world wide trade boycott and a arms embargo. Many high tech materials for missiles, etc had to be sourced from third parties and it was rumored that the cargo pallets on the main deck, was filled with new weapons technology, missiles parts, unknown chemicals (presumably weapons grade), etc.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

Nothing would surprise me. And they love to bring countries to hell with their little embargoes

[@Virtualnoaidi]

Somewhere there's a guy who, on that day, while working at the Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson airport, misplaced the luggage of Italian international football star Christian Panucci, eventually leading to him missing TWA800. Someone below commented that this terrible scenario (fuel-air combo, delays etc) does not seem too unthinkable, I wonder if someone can fill in what was done to prevent this from happening again. RIP all.

[@Chimel31]

It's bad that the results of the investigation and recommendations were not mentioned after each of these 2 video sections indeed. That gives the whole video and the channel a real bad vibe, as if they are interested only in showing the accidents, not the lessons learned from them.

[@stellakowalski1]

@@Chimel31you’re absolutely right. Great comment.

[@Pablo668]

From memory, I think they have a system which purges any oxygen out of the center tank. That way the fuel air explosion can't happen. Possibly they checked wiring in that area of all 747's then flying and found many were in poor condition, that was changed too. This crash/incident is on several shows of this type (Air Crash Investigation etc). I can't remember the specifics though.

[@enigmawyoming5201]

Lessons learned, and steps taken to prevent such tragedies should be a prerequisite to posting horrific events on KZbin. Just IMHO.

[@LLS710]

No offense, but google it.

[@Simon_PieMan]

Hold on - if the tail section separated it’s irrelevant what the pilots did or didn’t do.

[@gregmarino5248]

Many people on Long Island saw something that hit the aircraft that day. The Navy was doing maneuvers out in the ocean that day

[@thephantomeagle2]

I remember hearing that they saw a streak of light head right towards it and hit it

[@Klaatu2Too]

@@thephantomeagle2 Over two hundred people saw something rising from the ground that hit the plane. One of those witnesses was a military pilot in the air who saw two explosions, a bright white explosion followed a few seconds later by a yellowish/orange explosion. A bright white explosion is what you would see when an anti-aircraft missile explodes. A yellowish/orange explosion is what you would see from a fuel explosion.

[@thephantomeagle2]

@@Klaatu2Too On top of that if it had been an internal explosion then the entire plane would've been in pieces. They had once side, I want to say port that had a giant hole in it and the rest was blasted away from that point. The fuselage on that side was in large pieces where the other side was all in small pieces many of which were either too small or missing and you saw large gaps on the far side from the hole, where the side with the hole was almost complete.

[@ConcernedCitizen5514]

I have seen an interview with a man who claims he was in the navy on a ship in 1996 doing some type of field test training exercises when someone on his ship accidentally hit TWA 800 with a missile, causing the explosion. He said that everyone on the ship was ordered to keep quiet about it.

[@derekhamel2991]

I recall news networks at the time reporting claims of seeing surface to air weapon type things from folks on the ground at the time. watched this vid cause beyond that I didn't ever recall hearing the NTSB post mortem describing an actual cause.

[@ConcernedCitizen5514]

@@derekhamel2991 There is a person named William Teele who claims that he was in the US navy on a navy ship in 1996 which accidentally shot down TWA 800. You can find videos and more info about it if you search around on the Internet. I have watched an interview he gave and it looked to me like he was telling the truth, although nobody can really be 100% certain.

[@jeffreyobryan6406]

Ironic when it initially comes out that the an explosion onboard and evidence points to a missile, only to later be changed by the CIA, FBI, and NTSB. Many people on Long Island were interviewed after the incident and most claim seeing two to three missiles rise near the surface of the ocean and strike the plane. There’s a documentary that was put out in the early 2000’s about the whole incident and how the U.S. government covered it up and made up the whole cover story that faulty wires near the gas tanks were responsible. Even though interviewed NTSB employees go on record to state that there were explosives residues on the aircraft fuselage pieces! It’s a terrible tragedy that occurred, but even more so that the government changes the narrative and threatens its own citizens over the truth!

[@stephenoneil5610]

Yes, I believe that’s what happened. The break up is very typical of a missile strike. Based on the ground conditions and the resiliency of the plane, there’s no way there could be a center fuel tank explosion. But that’s just my opinion.

[@johnp139]

Lies

[@ZatarainLeRice]

I've been wanting you to do this one for a long time! Marcel Dadi was on this flight. Great guitar player. He was returning home to France from receiving an award in Nashville.

[@Polychrome1201]

These are reruns. The first one was posted 10 months ago. Looks like you waited longer than you needed to. 🙃

[@godoftheinterwebz]

He didn't even get to enjoy his honor for one day

[@agtrst]

Marcel attended the annual Chet Atkins Appreciation Society gathering in Nashville (which occurs every July). I started attending the year after. It was a somber event, being the first gathering after the accident. I met a few of his family members who flew to Nashville from France. They wanted to meet everyone who he was hanging out with just before that tragic flight. Everyone celebrated his life with music that weekend.

[@O.J._is_Guilty]

Talk about a worst nightmare. The nose of the airplane tears off and instead of falling with it you keep climbing even though there’s no pilots

[@vivi6121]

I doubt the passengers knew that all the cockpit went off, I wonder f the pilots were still contious when it went off, that would have been horrifying

[@cchris874]

It's a myth it kept climbing. And I say that as someone who does NOT believe in the shoot down.

[@O.J._is_Guilty]

@@cchris874 I didn’t know it was a myth but if it’s found a long ways away from the nose then it’s plausible it kept flying straight or climbing

[@cchris874]

@@O.J._is_Guilty In theory it's possible. But in order for the "zoom climb" scenario to happen, forward speed needs to be given up for vertical speed. But the radar returns cited in the final report don't show that. That's one point the missile proponents got correct, I believe. I don't know about the rest of their theorizing though.

[@daveskimmer]

I lived in Hampton Bays at the time, and the trucks taking the wreckage would pass my house. Those were some very tough days for the whole community.

[@joysmith687]

I was watching them pull it out of the water. Took me a long time to get back on a plane.

[@melodeeaaron]

My cousin was a VP at TWA when flight 800 went down. He denies to this day the official report.

[@loosemoose9799]

If you remember, James Kalstrom was the FBI agent in charge of the investigation for interviewing witnesses. His statements indicated that people saw a fiery streak headed for the plane and then it exploded. Other witnesses saw a boat speed away after they saw a streak of something going upward after they saw the boat. At some point Kalstrom changed his story and later was removed from the investigation. My son is a retired pilot with certifications for various aircraft, including 747s. His exact words were and still are after hearing the "official "story, "It is so much horse puckey."

[@jctrame]

And he’s gone now. There was never a reoccurrence, there was never a recall on the 747.

[@loosemoose9799]

@@jctrame My other son was in the Navy and said that a missile of unknown origin took the plane down. He was an aircraft maintenance supervisor and said the official explanation was nonsense.

[@MarceloBenoit-trenes]

@@loosemoose9799 "He supported Donald Trump during the 2016 United States presidential election and referred to Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family as being criminal-like.[5][10] He was also critical of the Special Counsel investigation by Robert Mueller, saying in 2018 that it was orchestrated by a cabal beyond the scope of the FBI and the intelligence community. He added that he "did not recognize the agency I gave 28 years of my life to"". Too much conspirative theories here..

[@DBBMed]

​@@loosemoose9799there was another agent investigating it also i dont remember gis name but i know it wasnt Kalstrom because Kalstrom was the guy who was head of the tv show also. The other agent was a real fat guy and he claimed that tests did show bomb residue on the shell of the plane. Hes dead now also. Anyone know his name?

[@Sakja]

There was another crash similar to the second, but they found there was something in cargo that should not been. More passengers died on that flight even though they were able to land relatively early because the pilot made a turn before stopping the plane. I think the wind from the turn intensified the flames.

[@harishms6643]

I think it’s a Saudia L-1011 Tristar

[@Sakja]

@@harishms6643 No, that was the flight in Saudi Arabia by the 3 Stooges pilots. The captain landed safely but not right away. He thought the fire wasn't serious so he landed the plane far down the runway, then waited 3 minutes to stop the engines. When an attendant asked him if they should evacuate, he said yes, but then said no. When they opened the doors 23 minutes after landing, everyone was dead. The flight I was referring to, I remember it was in the US.

[@marciadiehl5733]

@@Sakja I think it was the one that happened in the Florida Everglades. I think it was a Jet Blue that had supposed empty oxygen canisters that exploded and caused the plane to go down. Might have been in the late 1990's.

[@harishms6643]

@@Sakja Sorry dude, it’s my mistake. Thank you for pointing it out. Those pilots (l-1011) were definitely out of their minds.

[@OTRTrader]

@@marciadiehl5733 That was Valujet 592 on May 11, 1996. It was the oxygen generators that began to activate, causing extreme heat in the cargo hold. A tire then exploded, causing flames to burn through control cables, causing the airplane to go into an uncontrolled descent, and crash. There's a SaberTech guy who has an FBI warrant in connection to that crash, but they haven't found him yet.

[@lolabellacat299]

In my opinion you have some of the best content on You tube...everything you want portrayed in absolutely realistic audio and video..by far my favourite ..and rip to all those that died so horribly ..absolutely tragic and sad

[@mkhanman12345]

KZbin has nothing to do with it

[@xlnuniex]

8:00 and this is why there’s no longer AC running when stuck on the ground

[@ibnewton8951]

My wife and I and some friends flew from Johannesburg to Swaziland in our plane for the weekend when the Helderberg went down. We were stunned at the news and it cast a gloomy pall on the weekend. Many people staying at the hotel got together in groups and we discussed the horrific incident. It was such a tragedy. RIP to all. The black boxes were recovered from the ocean floor at a depth of about 12000 feet or so.

[@LLS710]

newton, super interesting to imagine these horrific conversations ya'll had!

[@grantzax]

@newton As a kid I flew a number of times on Helderberg between Mauritius & Durban during 1983 & 1985 (4 x per yer during school holidays). I recall boarding Helderberg many times flying out South Africa. I would usually be seated in the upper deck. It's chilling to think I could have been on that flight. Not for a solitary moment do I believe the cause of fire was computers. The govt was importing all manner of weapons and explosives by any means possible during the arms embargo against the then SA govt. The airline was govt owned & the CAA (investigative ppl) were also govt controlled.

[@ManiyaVinas]

Servers them right for the Apartheid bs

[@ionychel]

Only the cockpit voice recorder was found, the flight data recorder was never recovered. So only one of the so-called black boxes were recovered.

[@tomsmith2013]

I think I would have been tempted to bolt for the door the moment I heard: "This is your pilot, Capt. Kevorkian."

[@vickiweber4718]

I did wonder if they were related.

[@ayasreviewsandtoycolection7148]

There even was a documentary on Netflix about it but it has since been REMOVED. And in it a chief aviation engineer even SAID that upon examination of the ENTIRE plane, that SOMETHING FROM THE OUTSIDE caused the plane to IMPLODE from the OUTSIDE IN. Not INSIDE OUT as traditional aviation disasters ARE.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Don't they ALWAYS pull stuff on Netflix?

[@joannegregory3024]

The empty fuel tank filled with flammable gas from the air conditioning running for 2 hours while plane was on the ground and a spark from faulty wiring caused the explosion,they rebuilt almost the entire plane it was amazing

[@shindrithargriethrat8408]

@@joannegregory3024 Believe that nonsense if you want to.

[@tommeliusbthaprofit6157]

Can you not capitalize every other word for emphasis? It dilutes your goal of giving said things emphasis and makes you look like a child

[@genelleellis4823]

@@shindrithargriethrat8408 its true...

[@bman111800]

I was at smith point beach when flight 800 went down. I was also a firefighter that responded with my crew that night looking & praying we found a person alive. I will never forget what I saw in the aftermath floating on the water, and I definitely will not forget how it really came down. Don’t always believe a video.

[@tueregomez2851]

I trust what you're saying, so how did it go down????😮

[@malcontent456]

Missiles.

[@katsanddoggies9904]

@@tueregomez2851 The cause of the explosion was the testing of the Aegis Weapons System developed and managed by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. It explains that the defense system fired SM-2 missiles with live warheads from warships at aerial missile targets off the coast of New York in close proximity to commercial flight paths.

[@pansexuallmao]

@@malcontent456 bro not at all

[@TheBigbrizzle]

I was up late on the west coast watching cnn when the first reports came in. They said numerous witnesses saw a missile come from the below, hit the plane and explode. I went to sleep, woke up in the morning and cnn never said another word about it. I always figured terrorism, a guy in a zodiac with a shoulder rocket or something. Others have said there were military drills in the water nearby, hard to believe that story.

[@TheFULLMETALCHEF]

I have been saying for the longest time that all cargo areas need to be completely airtight and outfitted with a Halon fire suppression system. Once the fire is confirmed out that area can be vented.

[@dfuher968]

Combis went out of use after the Helderberg crash. But yeah, it can still happen in the luggage compartment.

[@grmpEqweer]

That makes too much sense.

[@ImperrfectStranger]

If you make a certain area airtight, rapid decompression in that area will make the surrounding floors or walls collapse. This has happened several times (damaging flight control systems and has led to major crashes). This effect is reduced by spring loaded flaps in walls and floors for pressure equalisation. Halon is not used in the cabin/fuselage because you have the possibility of killing the passengers and crew especially if the cabin/cockpit is not completely air tight. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you make the aircraft like a submarine, it would be too heavy to take off (or too uneconomical for people to fly on them) Fire suppression systems in lower cargo areas ("luggage compartments") have always been available.

[@grmpEqweer]

@@ImperrfectStranger Am I remembering correctly that the containers the cargo goes in has fire suppression, within the shell?

[@ImperrfectStranger]

@@grmpEqweer I'm not aware of container internal extinguishing systems, but I've been out of the industry for a while. I'm not sure if the regulations would allow an independent fire suppression system. The usual fire extinguishant is fed into the cargo via small tubes. The extinguishant is fed in in stages; a rapid blast, followed by a long slow release up to several hours depending on the system. Some 747 freighters do have an extinguishing system for the main deck, but most just depressurise the cabin to 25,000' to reduce the oxygen content (when the crew push the main deck cargo fire switch).

[@ModernVintage31]

What’s with all the aggressive comments on here towards the content creator? If you don’t want to watch a ‘rerun’, click off. If you’ve read other comments, perhaps you would have noticed that the video has been updated with new simulator details. Even if the video was purely a reupload, all the foaming at the mouth, demands and nastiness pointed at The Flight Channel is really inappropriate and weird.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

He is making lots of revenue off this channel and lying about air crashes like the TWA 800. People can say what they like unless KZbin censors them which it does a lot.

[@dyates6380]

Two very tragic and horrible incidents. RIP to all involved. The initial one - you know people were aware of what was going on after the explosion, but I never took into consideration the fire that was engulfing them as the fuselage flew way up in the air before defending. I hope and prey they were unconscious at least. The second one, also, the poor people KNEW they were doomed before their deaths. Just horrible all around.

[@ej7692]

You don't know that. The explosive concussion and fireball most likely helped them to die instantly. The only way to know is read the autopsy reports.

[@alexal3986]

autopsy reports of those who sat in the last several rows of flight 800 where alert to what was happening to them.

[@maggiemuthu9818]

​@alexal3986 OMGODDDDDD All the while i was quite sure all died instantaneously but this autopsy, can we find it online pls? My God have mercy

[@Payduro]

If I remember correctly, TWA 800 is the accident that inspired the crash of Flight 180 in Final Destination

[@WeirdScienceComics]

Passenger, courtney johns, was the inspiration for the comic character Stargirl as well

[@vanessapete1091]

Yes.Because several of the students had bad premonitions and didn't get on the plane,but went on later to experience tragic,untimely deaths.

[@rgarlinyc]

Terrible tragedies. I remember hearing of TWA800's disintegration within hours of its happening and suddenly recalling then it was a flight I regularly took in those days.

[@LLS710]

🙄

[@JamesFaye-lt4dv]

No disintegration the navy shot that plane down

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Ok. I'll bite. Why?

[@daniellageorgiou-norman2244]

@@JamesFaye-lt4dvno they didn’t. no one shot the plane down. it was a result of the ac packs heating up, the fuel in the tanks was vaporised due to oxygen in them which then ignited due to the heat and i think there was also a broken circuit or something like that which caused the breakup

[@jiks270]

Two of the most horrific incidents back to back, the second one being even worse IMO due to the duration. Not good ways to go.

[@dfuher968]

Yeah, the only comfort I get from the Helderberg crash, if u can call it comfort, is that autopsies of the few bodies found showed, that the passengers died of smoke inhalation fairly early in the timeline.

[@RickL_was_here]

Swiss Air 111 as well... Those people all would have been completely conscious all the way down and would have known there was an issue right away. Lots of time to think in that 1. Brutal.

[@Sniperboy5551]

300 pounds of fuel is plenty for an explosion like that. It may not sound like much compared to what the tank capacity is, but the fuel-air mixture becomes explosive at a certain point.

[@raywest3834]

@Sniperboy5551 FAA radar data shows (at the moment the plane lost electrical power) debris shooting out of the plane at about 6000 mph, moving from left to right, which is consistent with Nat. Guard helicopter pilot Major Fritz Meyer's claim of seeing the missile hit the plane from the left. A fuel tank explosion could NOT POSSIBLY explain this, (according to physicist Tom Stalcup) as jet fuel cannot produce a force of this magnitude.

[@StarchildMagic]

How horrifying to be toward the front of TWA 800 and seeing the front of the airplane disappear. I can only hope the passengers lost consciousness quickly, before they had a chance to understand their fate.

[@GoldenMushroom64]

How would they lose consciousness exactly? They most likely saw everything. Death is ugly, don’t sugarcoat it

[@MisterRawgers]

@@GoldenMushroom64the cabin pressure would be gone, the high right of speed and velocity could cause you to lose consciousness . Don’t be so naive.

[@elementone4309]

@@MisterRawgers I'm not sure they were yet at sufficient altitude to cause loss of consciousness upon cabin pressure disintegration. I think the video said the incident occurred at around FL138, which isn't that high.

[@doofmaczemy]

@@GoldenMushroom64 You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are ya?

[@kennymilsom]

At that height one would only become hypoxic (an oxygen deprived state) and eventually lose consciousness. So yes, probably saw most of it.

[@silvereaglehere]

The flight channel does such a great job putting these video's together. Thanks so much for your hard work!!

[@Fromseatosee]

I don't believe the flight Channel put this video together did they?

[@Conster14237]

@@Fromseatosee yea they do

[@Conster14237]

They use a game called Xplane 11

[@themandownthehall]

The minimum ignition temp for airline fuel vapor is 97 degrees? Dang. That seems low

[@johnp139]

Someone messed up on that figure.

[@MrFinallythere]

Temperature and Pressure are inversely related when it comes to ignition temperature

[@ALTN8NRG]

I saw this while on Long Island. It happened during daylight hours just before sunset.

[@2puffs770]

Imagine having to tell that organ recipient their life is NOT going to be saved today! Sad! RIP, to all the souls lost that fateful day!

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

Wonder if they the patient got another die prolly die

[@mycaddigo]

Like 200 people died and ur worried about the living that stuff has a chance …..

[@jessicahitchens6926]

It's not important the plane was shot down and it was covered up. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

[@ChicagoMel23]

@@jessicahitchens6926it was not shot down. Quit looking for what isn’t there

[@CrackheadHuntersDopeDealer]

​@@ChicagoMel23 Shot down. 😑

[@RebeccaMundschenk]

So many layers of tragedy. The organ being transported for transplant. The pilots of the other planes that witnessed the explosion. And of course, the people on board TWA 800.

[@joelcarson4602]

I remember watching a very long, very detailed analysis of this done by one of the investigators on C-SPAN some time after the crash. The sheer amount of detail and the almost agonizing amount of thought and science that the NTSB and FAA put into the investigation was above and beyond what you might think such projects have to do.

[@justinruemenapp5262]

I still remember the CIA interrupting tv to broadcast their version of TWA 800 crash. Just kept saying “It Was Not A Missile!”

[@windsorpatb]

...even though many hundreds of eye-witnesses observed a rocket trail rising from the horizon toward 800 seconds before the explosion.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

The CIA is essential the Military. They don't care about people they only serve themselves and their overlords.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

The plane behind them the pilots lied

[@-Thunder]

@@windsorpatb This was the event that caused me to start questioning everything. Hundreds of witnesses saw everything and none of them made it onto to TV or into the NTSB report. Now, it seems over half the population is finally awake.

[@michaelford3391]

This is SO much better than most Air Crash videos... no narration necessary.

[@badass1g]

Millions of parts on a plane. All it takes is one of them to go bad and it can take you down. Really scary stuff! R.I.P.!

[@lunayoshi]

Yeah, TWA had a history/reputation of being cheap because they were lax on inspections and upkeep. Neglecting their planes finally caught up to them when bad wiring caused the spark in the gas tank.

[@Bootmahoy88]

A single, small frayed cord, a spark.....

[@framedthunder6436]

​@@lunayoshiTwa was very unlucky really and they made bad decisions America Airlines, United and Delta did have horrible accidents cuz of trying to cut corners too

[@windsorpatb]

Yes. Especially those parts that are in a Naval submarine missile which locked on to TWA800 instead of the planned drone in the vicinity.

[@ChicagoMel23]

@@windsorpatbwrong quit spreading lies

[@patrickdebellefeuille4196]

Amazing that all these guys with all that experience and all these sensors and gages and yet still these catastrophic situations still happen.

[@sidefx996]

"I think that was him." "I think so." Definitely made this grown man tear up.

[@Paco_Gaepedores]

May all their souls rest in peace 🙏 🕊️ ❤️ Love from Mumbai, India 🇮🇳 ❤️

[@DolleHengst]

It's a scary thought that this can cause an explosion. There's always gonna be some residue in an empty tank. Then, there's plenty of scenario's where a plane has to wait for a couple of hours. With the AC on of course if there's hundreds of passengers on board. Now, i know planes have crashed and disintegrated for the wildest, most unthinkable reasons. Sometimes a very minute little detail. But this? Seems like a scenario common enough to thoroughly test during development.

[@random_silicates]

This video oversimplified that to the point of getting it wrong. The gas mixture in the empty tank became rich enough to be ignitable after it was warmed by the a/c packs, because increasing the temperature of a volatile liquid raises its vapor pressure. But the source of ignition, which was never definitively proven, is thought to have been a spark from faulty wiring in the fuel quantity indication system. At the time, it was thought it was acceptable to allow gaseous mixes in tanks to reach ignitable concentrations as long as no ignition sources were present. This doctrine changed as a result of this accident. Still, there was never a time when 747s were blowing up left and right just because it was hot outside.

[@isabellind1292]

@@random_silicates Katie Couric was still misinforming people on air during 9/11 that this was an intentional bombing, smh!

[@jessicahitchens6926]

It was shot down. So don't worry about it.. The story is ridiculous 🤣

[@daniellageorgiou-norman2244]

@@jessicahitchens6926it was not shot down, that’s nonsense

[@anniekinsmishkamouse7575]

Amazing they were able to recover parts of the second plane from the ocean floor. There were some very experienced Pilots lost. Along with the transplant on the lifeflight. Condolences to all involved. I hope the information lead to alternate procedures to prevent other occurrences.

[@bobbertee5945]

I fish in this very same area where Flt 800 went down, it’s not far off the south shore of Long Island, just outside of Moriches inlet about 8 miles into the ocean, it’s not very deep in this area, roughly 100-120 feet of water.

[@anniekinsmishkamouse7575]

@@bobbertee5945 Thank you for explaining this to me. I was thinking it was miles down.

[@TheScotty121]

I just want to say how fascinating these videos are and the reaearch you have to do to make these videos must be immense .i for one love watching them ,its my new pass time .

[@jeffell]

My old Commanding Officer onboard USS Waddell(DDG-24), Rear Adm. Edward Kristensen, was in charge of the US Navy salvage efforts for TWA 800. He is a very good man.

[@TheLesserWeevil]

Allowing flammable cargo on passenger flights seems a bizarre decision to me.

[@lunayoshi]

It was a computer. This is why they don't want you to ship computers or other electronics with lithium batteries. Those things leak or explode at high altitudes or pressure or something. I dunno. I worked for a store that shipped UPS and we had to ask about the lithium battery before we would be allowed to ship it.

[@TheLesserWeevil]

@@lunayoshi "they don't want you to ship computers or other electronics with lithium batteries" Except in this case I guess.

[@mkoury83]

um..... fuel?

[@TheLesserWeevil]

@@mkoury83 um..... what?

[@richellebrittain2127]

Perhaps no one in 1987 realized the issues with lithium batteries, especially in apartheid-era South Africa. That could be why that possibility was never considered then; today it probably would be the first thing investigators consider.

[@vaderbaby]

I don't care what anyone else thinks, it's a good video & TWA 800 always moves me emotionally. Normally these don't get that 😢 out of me, but TWA 800 does. Generally it's all about whether I can figure out what went wrong before it is explained. Thank you.

[@tomsurrey2252]

ACTUALLY... when the other pilot said 'god bless them' I chocked up, NO... I'm not religious, it just got to me! RIP, all!

[@enigmawyoming5201]

This would be a tough one to figure out. Not like when the pilots were flying out of DFW, flirting with the flight attendant and forgetting to put the flaps down on takeoff!

[@enigmawyoming5201]

@@tomsurrey2252 Yeah, that comment got to me too. One doesn’t need to be religious to understand when somebody makes that comment, they just want to say the most they can come up with to express their grief and concern for those, their families or friends who have, or will soon be suffering.

[@vickiweber4718]

​@enigmawyoming5201 what else can you say after watching 200-someodd people die?

[@sherimcdaniel3491]

My flesh is covered with goosebumps after listening to the desperation and terror of the pilots’ last moments. I pray God was with them in those last moments.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Who could have stopped it and did nothing, then...?

[@MrCameronsterling]

Me watching the maintenance crew override sensors 😢, this still haunts me to this day anytime I hear other pilots talking about the plane

[@asdf3568]

Those last minutes most have been horrible for the passengers. Especially for those that must have burned alive.

[@bowlchamps37]

You lose consciousness pretty fast before adrenaline even allows any pain.

[@dfuher968]

In the Helderberg crash a few bodies were recovered. Autopsies showed, that they died of smoke inhalation fairly early in the timeline, b4 the fire reached them. But yes, it must still have been a few terrifying minutes.

[@asdf3568]

@@bowlchamps37 Not at 13 000 feet

[@kritagyabadalkhurana2656]

Real viewers will realise this is a re-upload

[@mkoury83]

just like real witnesses to this event will realise its all a lie.

[@eeroala5132]

Navy was testing a RAM surface to air missile in the area and accedently shot down this aircraft. The missles warhead was removed and replaced with a telemetry unit, but even without the warhead the danage was catastrophic when the missile puctured the wing between two of the turbofans. Oops, my bad (US Navy).

[@jessicahitchens6926]

All in a days work... they don't care what the collateral damage is. They navy eh... absolute psychopaths.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

How do you "accidentally" short down a huge CIVILIAN plane, tho??

[@-Thunder]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 It's been done before. Iran Air Flight 655.

[@christopherconte27]

This is one of the plane crashes I really remember being in NJ and in high school this got alot of coverage on NY stations. back then internet wasnt what it is now, no social media and phones, you got your news from tv and papers and being in high school my attention was focused on other things. But this was one of those events, OJ, Princess Diana, Biggie, Pac, Kurt Cobain that got my attention and I really remember. RIP

[@justinfollowing6677]

They (NTSB) wanted us to believe that aircraft exploded due to fuel vapor ignited in center tank. then to prove that they changed all aviation trainings with made up additional events. As an high experienced aviator I never believed that story. What I believe is They shot the aircraft with a missile. RIP to all those souls.

[@countalucard4226]

I remember watching tv that night when they broke away for the news bulletin. It was horrific.

[@franwebb7756]

This one always breaks my heart all over again 😢😢😢❤

[@notozknows]

Did you notice that they kept the real reason for fire quiet? They said 'computers' when we all know they meant the batteries.

[@apexkilla]

You couldn’t put WHEN this happened?

[@jennifertaylor9157]

The beginning shows the date; July 17, 1996

[@user-gh6dl8tl9c]

So sad ❤ hugs to all family members

[@paddyheff1]

@@patogenify🤡

[@patogenify]

Sad he doesnt know whats newest content to upload that the main

[@Avendesora]

@@patogenify is this vulture tactics? "If I complain on a comment that might get lots of attention even though it has nothing to do with why I'm whining, someone will see my comment, too, and maybe THEN they'll care" kinda deal? Help me out, there's gotta be something more reasonable here that I'm just not seeing.

[@TheUnknownLocomotive]

@@patogenifyyou know it’s a compilation of similar incidents right? The other two were separate videos. And the creator combined them into one video

[@patogenify]

​@@TheUnknownLocomotivemy pointed comment is not on this disaster but on what the purposes of the craeator trying to do

[@geniol28186]

I am always surprised about this accident that when images appeared of the hangar where the Boeing 747 - 100 was rebuilt to carry out the accident investigation, the upper bubble of the plane had a row of several windows as in the version of the Boeing 747 - 200 when the plane TWA dropped corresponds to the version of the Boeing 747 - 100 that has the upper bubble with only three windows, what is the explanation for this difference? Excellent channel and work they do, the best of KZbin. Greetings from Argentina.

[@framedthunder6436]

Twa did have 747 - 200 I think Only PaNam did use the 747 -100 (As they we're the ones who wanted a double deck plane)

[@railfandepotproductions]

You ain't the only one who noticed

[@railfandepotproductions]

Probably a modified 747-100 with 747-200 windows

[@ionychel]

This was a later model 747-100 that actually had 10 upper deck windows. However, to maintain a uniform look on their fleet of 747s from that time, they plugged 7 of the 10 upper deck windows, so that it looked the same as the earlier 747-100s in the fleet that only had the three upper deck windows. These plugs, together with the windows, were knocked out of the fuselage during the explosion or when this section hit the ocean, therefore resulting in the 10 window holes that can be seen on the wreckage. Refer to the photo close-up photo in this Wikipedia article that clearly shows the plugged windows: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800

[@Frenchican17]

They actually suspected that the ignition was not due to flash point temperatures but a short circuit that allowed high voltage to reach the fuel sending unit. They have found similar damage on other wiring looms and also noticed a harmonic artifact in the flight recording evident of a short circuit seconds before the breakup.

[@Skuttleskull]

i feel like i watched the story of this flight or a flight with a similar fate somewhat recently. i love seeing it here though as you do a very thorough walkthrough of events with good visuals and story telling. keep up the great content TFC

[@TJS483]

I remember this horrible accident. I was a junior in college and shooting pool in my friend’s basement. I remember seeing the flames in the ocean that dark night. I went to bed thinking about the fear that passengers and crew must have had. I tossed and turned all night. What a horrific way to die.

[@paulu7751]

Oh please 🙄🙄🙄🙄. Quit being such a freakin drama queen 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@datvik7187]

​@@paulu7751i know right lol

[@babygertie6542]

So had they filled that tank up with fuel, maybe it wouldn't have crashed? Love this channel ❤

[@timonsolus]

A full tank of fuel would take a lot longer to heat up than a few hundred litres sloshing around in the bottom of the tank. Also, a full tank of fuel would mean that there would be very little air in the tank to cause a fuel/air explosion. So yes, you're correct. It's a shame that they couldn't fill the big centre tank and leave the wing tanks empty instead.

[@jkardez4794]

Nobody's knows what caused the fire even if the conditions were perfect for combustion .

[@vickiweber4718]

I was wondering the same thing. I didn't take physics and failed chemistry, so I don't know if filling the tank would've prevented this or just delayed the inevitable.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

No. It was shot down probably by the US Navy..

[@SteveSwags]

I vividly remember this. I had flown on TWA, approximately 2 weeks prior, to Germany for a high school trip. We flew back about a week after Flight 800 blew up. It was pretty nerve-wracking for many of the students on the trip. Me? I had a couple of rum & Cokes that a nice flight attendant served 17-year-old me and a classmate.

[@TheMichaelBeck]

Sad thing is, people probably survived the explosion and break up and didn't die until they hit the ocean. I can't fathom that.

[@gerryk101]

This is one of many reasons why I don't fly in a plane . I'd rather drive for days no matter what the statistics say about likelihood of an accident compared to a plane . I'll take my chances on the grond .

[@CorrectShark_]

the 747 was made in 1969. its old an outdated. newer planes are infinitely safer.

[@rikertvonfulton16]

I worked at KCFD crash rescue for many years and we would tour the TWA overhaul base from time to time. I talked to some mechanics and asked them about the center wing fuel tanks and the NTSB investigation. To a man they said there was no way the incident happened in this way.

[@rikertvonfulton16]

@@jamescook7713 Yes!

[@StevieSeagal]

Multiple witnesses off long island and jersey interviews on the news, a streaking light shot up from the surface of the water and they watched that light go all the way up and end in a massive explosion and fireball. The fireball went up and then careened back down and plummeted until landing in the ocean and disappearing. These witnesses lived on different parts of the island, did not know each other, and each description of what they saw, was exactly the same. Welp, after a couple days, those interviews were no longer shown and all evidence of those interviews are lost. We were in my dorm room when they did the testimonies and showed the spark in the fuel tank video and all of us recalled the interviews of the witnesses. All of us were laughing at the screen during the deposition and demonstration saying "Look they're fkin lying man!!!" It was the day we were all RP'd, and we woke up to how evil the gov really is, the day that changed all of our lives. Godspeed to all the victims of this event.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

The way the plane sky rocketed up.. And visibility would have been good because it was early July and only 8pm. People go oh it was dark no it wasn't. When one is on the coast or in the sea you see a lot in the sky.

[@jessicahitchens6926]

It also took 4 years to be concluded. Why?

[@collinsje5]

I remember this horrible crash. Amongst the passengers was a bunch of high school kids with a French club on their way to Paris. A first responder found one of their passports - a 15-year-old boy - and that grown man tough guy was in tears on TV.

[@clarabarton8350]

Life is one big casino, you never know when your number is up. It also shows how ridiculous airline procedures are. When passengers are asked to check in their carry on (instead of carrying them onto the plane), the airline simply trusts that there are no lithium batteries or combustable items. And so the roulette wheel turns.

[@martindunstan8043]

Fantastic channel with great detail of events. RIP all lives lost💐🙏

[@treywest268]

I remember this happening. I believe that there was some concerns that it had been taken down by an errant, and accidentally fired, missle as the Navy had been performing training missions in that area. There were discrepancies in the final cause for the accident as it was rumored that a missle-type propellant was found on some of the recovered seats and metal of the body where the explosion occured. True or not true? I am not sure.

[@mkoury83]

I don't know how else you can write off nitrates found on the OUTSIDE of the main fuel tank (the alleged origin of the inside to out explosive event) which when pieced back together, fit perfectly in place, like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.... The NTSB & FBI immediately and unprecedented commandeered this investigation from the rightful agency, the FAA to construct a fictional telling of events complete with complimentary cartoon corroborating their fabrication. I can think of no reason whatsoever to justify the omittance of every single one of the 800 sworn testimonies from ALL eyewitnesses from being included in any copy of the final "report". These among many, many, obvious "discrepancies" (to be generous) that to this day stand as the final word on what happened. The lie is the ultimate travesty in this horrible event. Good luck getting the Clinton camp on board with doing the right thing.

[@sewistnotsewer]

There have been some interesting studies (and a documentary) about the missile theory. I personally find it quite plausible.

[@ryancarlson8959]

Of course it was a missle. If it's not it's the only passenger airline in history of o randomly explode midflight.

[@Nyphonejacks]

I know at least 2 people who directly witnessed the missile head towards the plane from Jamaica Bay

[@RobertLack]

Read up on CEC that the Navy uses. Many eyewitnesses that saw a missile, including a National Guard helicopter pilot flying in the area. Those were all discounted. Rocket fuel chemicals on seats where the holes were at on the side of the plane. They said it was glue from seats used from another plane, Radar image that merged with TWA and both then disappeared on radar. They called it a radar anomaly. Two weeks later was the Democratic Convention for Clinton. Would they have any reason to cover up that the Navy took it down. Read about Mountain Top Exercise that the Navy conducted. Warning Area off of New York went active at time TWA 800 was suppose to be taking off. It was late and flew just to the north of the active Warning Area. I could go on and on.

[@ej7692]

TWA Flight 800 was shot down by either friendly fire from the military activities in the Sound, or a surface to air missile. 98% of the aircraft was recovered. A single hole on the left side just aft of the wing, showed the metal bend inward from the explosion. The explanation of a fuel tank exploding was debunked by the condition of the impact point. The FAA and NTSB had the collection of debris housed in a building, catalogued and color coded. If this was not a cover up, why did the FBI or CIA alter the debris categories and bar those qualified investigators who reassembled the a/c from the premises. Eye witnesses were threatened in the typical fashion of intimidation when the government wont tell the truth. Was heartbreaking that it was another example of a coverup for the benefit of the government.

[@tuckerweston]

Well Said! I've been posting about this but KZbin has continuously removed my comments! When I log into my account I can see my comment about TWA800, but when I log out and view the comment section on another browser my comments are no longer there! I would expect your comment will be removed pretty soon too. Stay Strong Brother!

[@datvik7187]

​@@tuckerweston your comments are being shadow banned by Yewtewb. That means your comments are ONLY visible to yourself, and not the community. Sucks.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

We're looking right at them, what are you talking about?

[@SteveGad]

I think there were 60 people who testified under oath, to seeing an object streaking upwatds, towatd the plane. It was later said they'd actually seen stuff coming DOWN and gotten confused.

[@A380-MAX]

Dang thats deep, respect for those onboard...

[@freemanhuang3794]

Good recreation of flight sims! Btw, Chiang Kai-Shek airport is located in Taoyuan, not Taipei, the one in Taipei is called songshan airport

[@1JackTorS]

I've researched the TWA Flight 800 crash on and off for many years. Decades. I've read reports and witness statements, watched countless videos, documentaries, and re-enactments, I've researched the 747-100 and its wiring construction, the combustive properties of jet fuel under pressure, the explosion pattern on the jet, the area the plane was flying over at the time, the military presence in that area and many, many other factors. There is one thing I can say with absolute confidence and certainty. This was NOT the result of a center wing tank explosion due to an electrical short. No way.

[@johnpurdy3336]

Lol ok. Guess the countless hours professional investigators spent figuring out what caused it were for nothing 💀

[@Kill-Dozer]

well of course after the fuel tank explosion they replaced or had to fix all 747 fuel tanks, oh wait they did nothing

[@hermesten1000]

@@johnpurdy3336 Oh yeah, and the government would never lie about something like that, or WMDs in Iraq, or what happened in the Gulf Of Tonkin, or say, deliberately poison alcohol to kill people, or conduct medical experiments on minorities. Or put American citizens in concentration camps because of their race. LMAO.

[@mkoury83]

what are you talking about??? The NTSB made a cartoon to show you what happened. You must be an election denier and q anon propagandist. Obviously any aircraft that assumes the aerodynamics of a brick wall is going to increase speed and altitude when in freefall. Just watch the cartoon again... then you'll understand lol

[@windsorpatb]

@@johnpurdy3336 NTSB knew what happened, but were pressured by FBI to "sanitize" their reports to indicate a fuel tank problem. All evidence ( and hundreds of eyewitnesses ) pointed to an external explosion caused by an errant submarine missile below 800. Whistleblowers have confirmed this.

[@jedi_mapperp4073]

I’ve seen the reconstructed TWA 800 at the NTSB training center in Ashburn, VA. Such a sad sight. It’s clear the explosion came from the center tank.

[@edwardstowers7272]

This was my flight to Paris enroute to Saudia Arabia for a contractor job. Fortunately, I rescheduled and left a day earlier. I realized this after I landed in Riyadh and saw the news on TV.