The Ultimate Trail Board Build // Rep Your Set w/ Nico Aleman

[@nicoaleman]

Such a long time coming, so stoked to finally share the details and thoughts behind my build with you guys, and finally reveal some awesome projects we've been working on 🤘

[@EliteAtlantaHomes]

I thought you were running Fungineers X10 rails. Great video 🙏

[@nicoaleman]

@@EliteAtlantaHomes I was for a bit, they're pretty unique and have their situations where they shine for sure, especially for no foothold riding IMO. But for an all-around build, and especially for things like fast transitions or airtime (jumps), I prefer a symmetrical rail like WTF's. Been running BTG WTF S&D's for a bit over a year now, ever since I won WinMan 2023 with them.

[@EliteAtlantaHomes]

@@nicoalemanNice!

[@heatedgreen94]

Such an awesome and informative video! Cant wait for the new products😎

[@tswizzain]

This was sweet dude! Didn’t realize I wasn’t subbed to your personal channel, so I just subbed! Thanks for sharing your setup and insight to your build. Was dope to get your perspective! 🤙🏾

[@p0rtugeek]

I can't wait for a TFL front sensor! That's going to be DOPE. Great setup, Nico.

[@1and289]

That tire!!! I need it!

[@JefferyPeralta]

is this a rep your set episode or a Nico teasing us with parts we can't have yet episode 😂now to wait till we can have these parts just waiting

[@ol_swift]

He masterfully achieved both

[@elletoot]

NICO NICO NICO WE LOVE YOUUUU

[@Thuggernaught74]

Can't wait for that tire to be available. Will be buying one soon as it is available.

[@scottomotive]

Can’t wait for Kush Lo w/ sensor tech :)

[@camfloats]

Traction is my number 1 issue while racing. Glad you guys are addressing this, great video Nico

[@quinn_wheel]

Hell yeah Nico! Great video! Perfect level of tech detail without getting lost in the sauce

[@nicoaleman]

Thank you! It's a delicate balance haha, that was the goal, glad you thought so 🤘

[@Fungineers]

the future is bright

[@RIDE-o-REBELLION-o-FLOATCAST]

Sooooo excited for those new footpads AND the new footholds. SIGN ME UP!!! Awesome seeing the ins and outs of your ride. Also, we want to see your other board too!!!

[@nicoaleman]

Other board is EXTREMELY similar, just 18s2p instead of 19s2p, and Hypercore with Pint Hub instead of Superflux HS! Lighter under the feet, easier to whip around on ground and in air, and easier to carry around haha. I really only prefer the Superflux in a racing context where I need all the power I can get while at speed (though thermals are also not a concern at my weight lol).

[@DonnyWalter]

⁠@@nicoaleman what tire are you using on your other board? Growler rails?

[@nicoaleman]

@DonnyWalter The Growler is my 3rd board haha, that's just for around the shop and short runs around town mostly. But that's on a Street Pro 2 for Pint (previously known as the HellaRad). Easily my favorite Pint Tire, I've been running that and it's predecessor (TFL X Burris XtraRad) for 4 years now.

[@DonnyWalter]

Haha thanks for the details on the street growler! @nicoaleman so you’re digging the BTG thundercat on the pint hub? I might need to pick up a pint hub.

[@nicoaleman]

@DonnyWalter Yeah! It's one of those things that's more of a luxury than a necessity, hard to say if the difference compared to XR hub is worth the price of a used Pint Hub, but I really do prefer the ride feel difference. Makes the tire a bit more nimble and responsive feeling, and makes it feel like you have more rubber on the edges with the way it rounds out over the narrower rim, giving more of a suspension feel. Definitely makes unexpected chunk on edge less jarring.

[@PEVD_Weston]

That's a sick setup and great explanation. Can't wait to try out that tire and been trying to source a kush lo XR for ages so needless to say can't wait for that to drop too with that new sensor tech and beat the hell out of it. Thanks for the shoutout to the community folks. Much appreciated!

[@deanaoxo]

Waited a long time for this one. Naturally, I don't have time to watch it, but know it's going to be good. Thank you Nico. Thank you for all that. you do for our community. I'm so happy I'm VESC now. Seeing the light, changes everything. . . rock, rock on, and always, aoxomoxoa.

[@indiemoto]

Nice work, Crew! Stoked to see all the hard work coming to life. 👏🏽

[@TheBrettric]

I never realized how much bigger a BTG really was! Thanks for reppin’!

[@mochatrease]

So cool seeing nico on video he’s a legend!

[@shabadavtar9370]

Definitely need more videos like this!

[@mekyg813]

This was such a sick RYS, really cool to see how Nico is really going for an extreme trail killer that isn't pure-power. It goes to show how important the other aspects of building a board are.

[@ryanfrank4834]

The community desperately needs those footpads baby! So jelly. Also stoked to have more btg tire options!!

[@mattclauss]

Sick build!! I can’t wait for those footpads! I’ll be slapping a set on my funwheel X7 build for sure. 🤙

[@Fungineers]

Ironically, the actual reason to bring the XR-Classic out was to KILL the original XR platform and GT-fy the entire fleet. But we will never forget.

[@deemontes7265]

Great set up Nico!! Can’t wait for those kush hooks!!! 🤘🏼

[@CrispyFloat]

Been waiting for this one.

[@jayodinokov]

What a setup! Excited for those new footholds. 20 degrees remote sounds crazy, I have mine set to about 7, but then again I optimized it so I would never have to microadjust, just full up or down. Rarely do you ever really need more than 7 degrees. Tire looks sick too been waiting in a good BTG tire for a while

[@itswayytooearly]

Sick setup!! Those remote settings are crazy lol, but it sounds fun to try. The Thundercat BTG will definitely be worth the wait!

[@TelijahP024]

The innovation is so constant and awesome to see. Doesn't look like that tire will fit a Floatwheel though since the burris only fits without the fender. Time to sell my GT and build a VEXR lol. Those footholds looks absolutely amazing. Can't wait

[@TelijahP024]

Even for those of us that aren't pushing it to the limits, those footholds look like we'll get disconnected from the board way less making it safer for even amatuers. It's like flightfins as toe holds with the 45 degree front foot angle...ahhh...chefs kiss

[@nicoaleman]

Hard to say, it'll be close, but we can't confirm until we go to production since the diameter can slightly change with each revision. We're designing the tire to fill out our BTG rails first and foremost, but we will probably check on a Floatwheel when it's ready just to get an answer on that.

[@MrDmadness]

If you cut a fender in half, you can fit it.. you need a chunk of plastic to bridge the gap for a full fender. If you can get an abs plastic one as abs - abs is not a "glue" connection its called a "solvent weld " which is much much stronger ( the acrinotrile and styrine chemically bonds to itself on a molecular level ((

[@aeraglyx]

That's a good looking board, can't wait to try the Big Cat!

[@Scream4Cheese]

So when are those new footpads with the sensor going to be available for purchase?

[@nicoaleman]

When they're ready! Sensors are a big responsibility and we're taking great care to make sure they're as dialed as possible. Definitely not something you wanna rush to market. But the wait will be worth it 🙏

[@MrDmadness]

​@@nicoalemanplease do. Quality is more important than piles of product with issues. :)

[@travisjosephmarkley4053]

Great video fellas. Looking forward to future!

[@NIGHTWHEEL...]

I'm so exited to get my build done so I can play with the tilt remote!

[@TheStopmotionMovie]

So excited for that BTG thundercat tire

[@TheFloatLife]

Me three!

[@derekkuschel361]

Fuckin instabuy.

[@teckno_senpai]

such a tough build.... sheesh. that tilt remote experience must be like no other! straight video game mode IRL

[@MYGOALFASTER]

This is my new favorite “Rep Your Set” 👏🏼🛞🔥 I am so ready for the 2025 TFL releases 🤩🏆💯

[@michaelg6040]

So cool. Very inspiring

[@beastcoastrepairs]

Stoked to have a different foot holds option down the road. Will they work with Kush wides? ThunderCat BTG looks rad as well. Dope set up Nico 🤌🏼

[@StraitJacketRC]

Damn that was savage! like 5 videos worth of gold in 1 shot! Are we able to use our existing rear kush to turn it into kush hooks?

[@nicoaleman]

If you mean XR, it will require the new Kush, the pad has a slightly new shape that the mount is designed around, and the mount requires some new attachment points that aren't on the old kush. I think existing GT Kush's *may* be compatible if they have those two rear attachment points near the end of the tail, but not 100% on that.

[@flintstoner210]

This setup is perfect great video

[@CosmicJubatus]

¡dude, i got so excited when i saw the thumbnail for this one ¿VESC Whisperer's Rep Your Set ¡fuck yeah that being said & building from your naming scheme, i propose the name ThunderLynx for TFL's big tire

[@zanman707]

I love how you guys still use that original intro lol

[@MrJoefoefrombuffalo]

Awesome great video, information. Please consider posting what can be if need be how used on the ADV..an or pro boards. Like foot hooks, pads, V2 remote. 🖖🏼

[@celestewilliams5681]

Sick build last time I saw your race board your footpads I think were just sheet metal XD must be much nicer. Gonna rep your set the growler next tho? 👀

[@nicoaleman]

Definitely much more comfy now haha

[@northuniverse]

We floating with this one 🗣️

[@NicoST1]

Great video, excited to try the pads/holds and BTG. I got your GT wtf rails for my fusion build so I can scrub out the aleman bit and pretend they’re custom 😂

[@nicoaleman]

🤣🤣

[@chrisc790]

Thanks for this Nico! I have the adv so obviously no 5" hub would fit this huge motor. My ears perked up when you said the bigger tire gives added suspension which is awesome! However that will also raise the height of the board which is a negative. Can you notice the difference in height? How does this setup feel for street riding?

[@nicoaleman]

The difference in height is noticeable, but plenty of people ride it as is and still love it. That said, with the ADV, you can just lower the axle height to negate that height difference while still getting the better suspension of the big tire. It's definitely a solid move! I know tons of people running ADV's with the big Burris 11.5x7-6 TX11 (treaded) or SS11 (slick), you just gotta remove the mini fenders for clearance since it can rub otherwise. If you were doing mostly street riding, it probably wouldn't be my first choice, but just depends on your ride style. I just like something more nimble and responsive for street riding. But it's a solid choice for high speed street mobbing and tanking through unexpected potholes and bumps at speed.

[@sariwa]

Dude! The BTG Burris feels like a brick, so I've been really hoping for a TFL BTG tire. Super excited for the BTG Thundercat. The profile looks great.

[@nathanofearthh]

DO NOT HATE ON MY BABY Lol I love the Burris tbh. Super stoked on this new option tho!

[@DJCheLu]

Can you elaborate on tuning the footpads for max reliability? I still get footpad completely disengaged at 11mph errors on my vesc! Love the build!

[@nicoaleman]

If you're footpad is cutting at speed, assuming essential parameters like ADC thresholds and Half Switch Fault ERPM (speed below which heel lift disengage is possible) are set up correctly, this would indicate either some serious hardware issues, or maybe bad sensor placement if you're using a smaller aftermarket sensor where there could be non-sensored areas on the pad. I say this, as riding above Half Switch Fault ERPM requires you to completely come off the sensor to disengage, which should never happen while riding outside of things like jumps/bonks! I would definitely investigate this before anything else. That said, I use features like Posi (Treat Both Sensors as One), Dirty Trick Landings, and Push Start to help ensure I get solid engagement everytime, and if my board does disengage for whatever reason, it's quick to re-engage the moment it picks up my foot regardless of board angle. I also sometimes have my Full Switch Fault Delay (disengagement delay) a bit higher at 400ms or so to be less prone to unintended disengages. All these are under the Float CFG -> Start/Stop menus. Lastly, I use a feature called Disable Moving Faults, which essentially makes it so as long as the motor is spinning forward, the board stays engaged no matter what. This gives me the ultimate peace of mind that my board will stay engaged through whatever I throw at it while riding at speed, especially through jumps, and even in the event of sensor failure. This works safely because any time your board ghosts (engaged without a rider), it will want to roll backwards since the tail is heavier, so the board naturally comes to a stop and disengages, as Disable Moving Faults is only active for forward rotation. There are some caveats where this could cause your board to stay engaged when unintended, notably if you jumped off on a steep downhill where the tail doesnt have clearance to naturally brake without a rider, if it didnt tip over on its own. Though these cases are pretty dang rare and specific, and I've never had any issues in the two years I've run the feature. Just take caution.

[@DJCheLu]

@nicoaleman excellent explanation thank you so much Nico!

[@D0m1n1c6]

just picked up the btg steep dubs for black friday and was about to purchase the burris. super glad i waited 😅

[@HevAdams]

Will there be a Drop Top Fender centre piece available to fit over the tire?

[@SS-du7tr]

Nico you might have pushed me to BTG. I'm already XRV, maybe Big Tonga Girth is my next move, leave those little boys to play with their standard size junk in the dust

[@Ericfloats]

Nico! Having both the x10's and the xlwtfs&d's, how do they compare?

[@nicoaleman]

The X10's are pretty unique and have their situations where they shine for sure, especially for no foothold riding IMO. But for an all-around build, and especially for things like fast transitions or airtime (jumps), I've come to prefer a symmetrical rail like WTF's. Been running BTG WTF S&D's for a bit over a year now, ever since I won WinMan 2023 with them.

[@boostbro_1]

Hey tfl, are yall gonna make aftermarket stuff for the adv2?

[@conklinmatt]

Btg lookin 🔥

[@SeanPaulNotTheSinger]

that's a fantastic breakdown, I loved seeing the preview of what's to come, and can't wait until you're dipping into my wallet

[@lostboyxiii]

Kush Hooks 🔥🔥🔥

[@Sybernetix]

Found my new tire!!!

[@matix10104]

6in pioneer!!!!!

[@austinday4835]

What vans are those? They look nice

[@nicoaleman]

Kyle Walker Pros! Been my go-to for 4 years or so now. They discontinued em a couple years ago though, so I stocked up wherever I could find the final remaining pairs in my size hahaha

[@austinday4835]

We need the footpads ASAP

[@WinstonWagoner]

Will we see a 6in pioneer?

[@SS-du7tr]

OK, ive made a few comments already. Gin talking. Kush wides in hand & 3" flat spot in the middle then transitions into a TOTALLY FLAT "concave" to the edges. Nothing like a skate deck at ALL. That's my 0.02 cents. Gonna return the kush wides and will make my own out of sheet aluminum. I wish I could just buy a comperable product but hopefully it works out. If it does i'll post my super sick aluminum footpads there & maybe you can replicate my design✌️

[@CosmicJubatus]

so ... 1/50 of a cent¿ :b also, ¿wouldn't it be better to try an 3D print your footpad with some urethane like material

[@SS-du7tr]

@ didn’t know you can 3d print urethane. I also only know slightly more than nothing about 3d printing

[@CayoticProphet]

Compared to Flight Fins, Foot Hooks seem to be a tripping hazard when trying to run it out. Flight Fins allow me to control the board with the top of my feet as well as the bottom... and I can run it out without getting tripped up.

[@nicoaleman]

I cover it a bit at 20:14, but as someone that ran FlightFins for 3 years (2 of those years racing), I find outside footholds to be superior and more natural feeling in a high speed riding context, and helped me develop technique that completely transformed how I ride. A wider stance is already more suitable for high speeds anyways for greater stability, but ignoring stance width, I just find it much more comfortable and natural feeling to constantly exert outward pressure to stay engaged with the board, rather than constantly squeezing in. To me, inside footholds like Flight Fins seem more suitable for engaging with the hooks in short bursts, rather than being engaged with the hooks at all times. The benefit there is certainly that it's easier to bail, no doubt about it. However, at high speeds, the control of outside hooks is able to much more consistently keep me out of bail situations at all compared to other options. And when it does happen, we luckily designed our hooks with a focus of being easier to bail out of than alternatives. That outside pressure also more closely mimics proper riding technique when riding without footholds (pushing outward against grip tape to engage with footpads and maintain control). Because of this, I found that using these types of footholds improved my overall riding technique both with and without footholds immensely. I was always a modest rider and racer in the 3 years I raced with Fins, but in just 1 month on Control Freaks, I was suddenly throwing down top results at the biggest races in the nation, they genuinely were a game changer for me. And to be clear, you can still absolutely rip with Flight Fins, there's a number of top riders that have proved they're still more than viable like Jahfari Silsley and Chabre Schumacher. I'm just trying to share the love of what absolutely changed the game for me and has ultimately made my riding experience SO much more fun over the last 2 years that I've been on Control Freaks and now Kush Hooks ❤

[@Vince_Vaughn]

Dear Santa (Jeff) 🎅🏻 6 Float Sensor Tech Kush Low’s Pads please 🥺🤞🙏🏽

[@chodarth]

Are the new xr kush lows still going to have the dumb FF cutout? I hope not. Who even uses FF anymore?

[@nicoaleman]

They don't. but they are still compatible with FlightFenders pretty sure 👌The grip on my front footpad having the cutout is just because we grabbed a sheet of grip cut for the old Kush pads haha, theres no lip there

[@chodarth]

@@nicoaleman That's great news! I bought the original kush low but the FF cutouts make it so uncormfortable for those that ride with their foot close to the fender that I just couldn't use it. Excited to try this new improved version1

[@dominicl1167]

Starting to feel like FM is becoming obsolete

[@nicoaleman]

I totally didn't realize until now that my entire build is FM-free besides two hub bolts haha

[@EliteAtlantaHomes]

💯

[@jasonackor7958]

After getting a Fungineers X7 which has zero FM parts, my GT and pint feel like toys.

[@uhjyuff2095]

@@nicoaleman True, the "XR platform" has been around for so long. one could say its a Classic!

[@EliteAtlantaHomes]

@ I bet! I ordered an ADV2 before Fungineers started shipping completely assembled X7 boards. Otherwise I would’ve went with the X7. Will probably end up buying an X7 and sell the ADV2.

[@justin9800-e9d]

That cup..

[@gergosnoo]

Yum

[@ivangrigorev6614]

When are we gonna stop playing around and just slap on wakeboard straps?🤣

[@TheFloatLife]

Snowboard bindings for everyone!

[@rafaelinmissouri6235]

I wish you had both boards up there...

[@nicoaleman]

The other board is EXTREMELY similar, just 18s2p instead of 19s2p, and Hypercore with Pint Hub instead of Superflux HS! Lighter under the feet, easier to whip around on ground and in air, and easier to carry around haha. I really only prefer the Superflux in a racing context where I need all the power I can get while at speed (though the worse thermals of the Hypercore are also not a concern at my weight lol).

[@rafaelinmissouri6235]

@nicoaleman I am visual person, and when you kept talking about it I kept trying to picture it.... Can you put a side by side pic on your Instagram?

[@nicoaleman]

@rafaelinmissouri6235 I mean, there's not much to share there haha. Visually they are almost identical. The tire gets shaped slightly differently, but the difference is more felt than seen. And the different battery is internal, so no visual difference there. Unable to share pics regardless unfortunately since one is being worked on rn

[@SS-du7tr]

WHEN. IS. BTG. THUNDERCAT. GOING. TO. BE. AVAILABLE???

[@nicoaleman]

When it's ready! Takes time to iterate through prototypes, but there's still some tweaks we want to make to it, and we want to make sure it's perfect rather than rushing something out. Hard to give a timeframe, hoping the next prototype is the one, but only time will tell 🤞