New Pint X WHAT'S INSIDE?! Full Tear-Down

[@sebastiancroft4918]

I can't wait to see this for the GT

[@grahampennington7487]

its gonna be a little befor we see any gts

[@asacrane6608]

Bro same

[@bigalharris]

Me too

[@kelniEYL]

me too

[@AG.Floats]

I've learned long ago to not pre order anything from FM. Will probably be 4 months before people start seeing most boards.

[@IcyBlueii]

Correction: Warranty is VOID as soon as you take your OW out of the original box.

[@TheBoardGarage]

Wicked, thanks Jeff! So, I was wrong in my assumption. It's not a 21700 1p pack, but essentially an XR battery in there. I assume they're using the same Murata VTC6 cells, since it's a 2p 6Ah 324Wh pack. That's really cool. I'll have to do another video on this stuff... because I caved and ordered one of these. Couldn't help it.

[@MaxInNewZealand]

Are the Murata made in Singapore too?

[@TheFloatLife]

I understood like 30% of your comment Mario 😁👍

[@Jd-zd6bh]

They could have used the 21700 which is what I have now on my onewheel PINT. Instead they made us of their overstocked battery which is the smaller size, but double the number of battery. I imagine if they placed 21700. . that will probably beat the GT. Then no one willl buy the GT.

[@weberito]

@@Jd-zd6bh where would they put it? :)

[@c0pyimitati0n]

@@TheFloatLife r/woosh

[@jaefrmbk2k]

realizin how we rely on you guys for OW answers wayy more than FM 🤙🏾

[@pugas07]

If controller is same shape/size can u use a pint front bumper for more nose clearance?

[@GitDatPC]

Fangs are compatible so I'd imagine 👍

[@TheFloatLife]

I believe you can

[@normie26]

Love the positivity. Lots of guys on YT are dogging on FM for refining their product and taking it to a more polished design. Good to see you guys being critical where you should but not trolling to troll.

[@fixmypev]

14:47 - iFixit saves the day with the T8. 🙌🏼 Love the Mako driver kit!

[@FyreDrac]

The waffle by the control board cound be a good spot for a tile or a airtag or whatever in the future!

[@TheFloatLife]

Good thinkin'

[@xfleazillax8413]

Me be Dremelin!

[@DBucksify]

Y'all are making onewheel so much better. keep it up Jeff!

[@TheFloatLife]

Bless

[@MusicByproduct]

I was very curious to see what's inside. You guys buying a board just to immediately tear it apart is much appreciated, thank you! :D

[@TheFloatLife]

Happy to help!

[@RLNTLSSShredShop]

Can't go wrong with ANY of the TFL content, but I especially love this stuff!

[@hollow3256]

those bms wires on the controller ( I presume) popped off my board and fm said it was my fault even tho the unit was sealed, so even to I was out of warranty they refused to fix it

[@hanmetalworks]

"they're trying to make everything as proprietary as possible, which is understandable." definitely understandable from a business perspective, but still often a huge bummer for consumers who like to repair and work on their own stuff

[@mb2q]

He's clearly trying to balance his personal feelings on the issue vs his relationship with Future Motion.

[@inactive67]

They can have their own stuff(FM) that is fine but we should be able to buy wheels, controllers, batteries etc... We should be able to buy the parts at least warrenty or not

[@raphaelsoniii8298]

they could've easily included a recessed handle grip on the front bumper like on the XR since they made it thicker just for aesthetic symmetry - thanks for the stoke content in this vid💯🙌🏽🤙🏽

[@TheAnimeist]

Thanks for answering about the clearance (again). That was quick. Float on my friend.

[@Frogly7]

Some pint x’s have had a issue where the battery wire gets crimped and destroyed because of the wag the battery box is designed have you had this problem and fm charged them 800$ to fix it and could you please check because i don’t want to wast 1400$

[@northuniverse]

This just happened to my board

[@daytonnash1395]

Did the wiring around the BMS and battery look like they were crimped or were at risk of damage? Saw another guy say he had that issue.

[@northuniverse]

This happened to mine, 1600miles

[@albienb6533]

Losing That 1/2 inch clearance messed me up. On my pint i was going up the hills in my neighborhood fine. On my X my nose scraped on this one hill and i took a dive. Scraped up my left hand, elbow and hip. I have since then installed fangs to help alleviate that issue.

[@elreebryant4622]

Good job on the teardown of the pint X looking forward to seeing the new GT teardown

[@Coreydarn]

oh my gosh im so pumped!! Love the day 2 tear down HAHAHA

[@shryx86]

Would've been nice if the bottom of the battery case was part of the bumper instead. I've started grinding away at that plastic. Time to install the float plates.

[@northuniverse]

Looking forward to getting some float plates for the X!

[@real_ez8412]

good to see they finally fixed the metal nut issue hopefully that is also being used on a normal pint as well so its no longer an issue as well as on the GT since it looks like it also has the newer button.

[@MatthewLiguori]

It is

[@dustinglowa1072]

Pints had several revisions of the nut. It first was stainless machined but , then they did silastic to try and stop vibration ratting it loose and finally the same plastic nut was introduced on regular pints maybe 6 months ago

[@xfleazillax8413]

Looks like they went with the cheaper GX-12 3pin connector on the GT which is a downgrade for sure, your going to see more issues with chargers getting broken a guarantee it.. I’m hoping it just looks like it but is actually something thicker and more significant

[@MatthewLiguori]

@@xfleazillax8413 the charging plug is in the rear on the GT suggesting charging is done thru the BMS like on the Pint and Pint X, and presumably with the same BMS as those 2 (maybe with a couple alterations or additions to the circuitry). I think this is the nature of the beast tho. Charging thru the controller then routing to the battery is just extra steps. I hope they did this intentionally, knowing it would be a failure point but still risk-assessed it to be “better” than the old XR+ method. I really do hope 😅🙏 and I wonder what “better” truly means, if it’s just for their highly questionable repair system monopoly, or if #RightToRepair means anything to them and if it helps mechanics and DIYs like ourselves in the long run. Time will tell, cuz FM sure won’t say a single word about it 🤐

[@xfleazillax8413]

@@MatthewLiguori yeah make sense except an XLR connection is tried and true in strength over the GX-2 connectors , XLR just watch and music video ever and watch what musician do with there mics and tell me it’s not more durable. Moving the power down makes sense with the Pint format for sure but I think they are going that direction because they had to decrease the price of the build because they also wanted to increase the battery size and keep the board at a reasonable price, I’m thinking the XR will remain a better built board. The pint isn’t a bad machine but it was half the price with some different tech to bring it down to its price point

[@cmb7481]

Did you notice that chunk of plastic under the BMS plug? I've read reports of it wearing through the wiring? Grind er' down 👍

[@OSBSQuinnFoster]

yeah pintxflaw is real bad

[@kjfuerst2838]

Hope you to molds or scans of those for bangs. People w regular pints will but as well. I'll buy the first pair today

[@OtherTaylor]

The GT's rear bumper covers the battery pack. Thought that was a nice addition.

[@dannybanani3164]

It didn't take long for Jeff to crack it open to find the secret goodies inside cant wait for the opening of the GT. Can you use an old bumper then for the front?

[@TheFloatLife]

Yeah, I think so.

[@msulkey]

Excited to see some new accessories!

[@AlbertoNoys]

This is great information, thank you very much, Jeff. If only I could update my Pint with the firmware of this one...

[@BinfordOver9000]

14:00 Exactly why I haven't pulled the trigger on a GT yet. If it has pushback like the pint, that's a deal breaker for me. I think they say it's got more carving angle than the XR, tho. That's what I'm excited about.

[@DragonPixels]

yep its got the pint tire but with the xr size so its easier to carve on the GT

[@BinfordOver9000]

@@DragonPixels Oh, I was thinking the board was programmed to have more lean angle. But I guess you’re right. Maybe they just get it from the tire and foot pads

[@xfleazillax8413]

Tire and rim are a 1/2 an inch thicker than the XR and that’s why I think they made the tire look more rounded on the edges, I’m betting it will turn more like the pint but not as much as you might think, looking at the tire it’s going to be all muscle control on those sides, not like the Burris T-33 or the Trail Pro where you can kinda set it on that edge and it has this stable spot while you turn at full speed.

[@ThisMarv]

Here's a question would be pretty interesting to find out: If you can get your hands on the X battery, can you swap it into the regular Pint? Then you could have the regular Pint battery if you fly with it and the X battery when you're not flying and want the extra range. Or maybe even as a quick "recharge" just swap the batteries

[@TheFloatLife]

That’s a lot of trouble for not a lot of benefit.

[@ThisMarv]

@@TheFloatLife Ah okay, was thinking it's just a simple swap possibly. Mainly looking at the benefit of having a travel legal board with the option to have more range when not traveling

[@dhc2]

@@ThisMarv did you watch the video? didnt look like itd be a simple swap at all

[@ThisMarv]

@@dhc2 I did watch it and it seems pretty simple. I'm talking about removing the whole part where the battery sits in and not only the actual battery itself where you have to take the battery compartment apart

[@elreebryant4622]

Just get quart battery and you are good I have one in my pint and it is great

[@nichoward8724]

Great video. Any thoughts or an update on the wiring issue in the battery?

[@Fordged]

Ryobi drill in thumbnail, Milwaukee used the entire video... LITERALLY UNWATCHABLE Amazing tear down and video as always, FL Team!

[@TheFloatLife]

That’s Hollywood magic, baby!!!

[@northuniverse]

The battery housing for the Pint X has major design flaws can destroy BMS balancing wires, as well as main battery leads.

[@jonny555ive]

Saw you with the Braille boys, I'm blown away by your skills.... you've got a new subscriber 🤘🤘

[@TheFloatLife]

Ayyyy! Thanks so much, happy to have you here!

[@jpvalentine1968]

It looks well built. Those thick bumpers could be replaced buy a new future set of thin bang bumpers 😃

[@MatthewLiguori]

Is that a cutout for an air tag in the bumpers waffle?

[@RLNTLSSShredShop]

Oh man...Maybe a Tile or an AirTag would fit? 🤔

[@rolithesecond]

I guess this time, a less chunky front bumper is what the aftermarket needs. :D

[@jaefrmbk2k]

word

[@redboyjan]

Durrrr

[@rolithesecond]

@@redboyjan he always finds me haha 😆

[@jakegorrie86]

Thanks from Australia. Apprecaite the break down.

[@dustinglowa1072]

Jeff motor plug always had the ow logo embossed on them , also we now have a foot pad connector part number for repairs male and female !! Thanks so much was hoping you’d rip into it !! FOMF !

[@TheFloatLife]

Good to know! I don't mess with the standard Pint much so I didn't notice before.

[@Go.el_Hadam]

The best thing about the Pint X is the potential of the unlocked firmware being used on the normal pint w/ an aftermarket battery pack.

[@johnandersen8999]

What do you mean unlocked firmware?

[@xfleazillax8413]

Yeah I’m betting it’s more locked up than not, there just allowing it to almost catch an XR, and I’m betting it could go faster than the 18mph there “selling us”

[@bmxscape]

@@johnandersen8999 all firmware is unlocked you just have to desolder the chip off the board and have a special chip reader tool and the knowledge to access and modify it lol

[@PhilCheplus]

Thanks Jeff ! Did they use the same "pentalope" screws for the battery box and controler box like the Pint ?

[@TheFloatLife]

Yup

[@PhilCheplus]

@@TheFloatLife cool ! Don't need new tools again. 😅

[@pixel2plastic832]

Love those Milwaukee m12s! So cool to see the breakdown since Future motion is so tight lipped!

[@TheFloatLife]

Been my daily for about 10 years now! Best ever!!!

[@dustinglowa1072]

Gott get the snapon 14.4 butteryfly trigger… I’m a big Milwaukee m18 m12 guy but this snapon screw gun kills it.

[@MrDmadness]

I own about 7g worth of milwaukee stuff, drill, impactor, press tool, chop saw, pipe threader... if milwaukee made bread, I'd eat milwaukee toast for breakfast every day 😋

[@nicolasandersen7574]

Looking forward to the Gt tear down

[@PapaPump]

Any chance TFL can hook up a new front bumper with a built-in handle?? Similar to the float plate solo handle??

[@TheFloatLife]

Sounds rad

[@globulez]

I wish they would sell replacement rails. I just bought my first Onewheel (pint x), and was under the impression that the rails were replaceable, since every other outer part can be replaced. I was too excited to start riding, and didn't wait for my rail guards to arrive. Of course I banged and scratched my original rails up badly the first couple of days. Finding out they don't sell replacements after I scratched mine up really sucked.

[@anthony3D]

Salut moi je suis rendu compte qu ils ne vendent pas non plus la barre de leds avant 😢 Après 1000km l éclairage avant ne marche plus.

[@TheKrisBunch]

Great video. I am reassured that I can ride my Pint X in slightly wet conditions. Being in the PNW it was bumming me out thinking I couldn't ride when it was wet out. Which would be months on end up here! Those gaskets look good, well designed.

[@TheFloatLife]

Toss a sweet treaded tire on there and get rippin'!

[@TheKrisBunch]

@@TheFloatLife I want the same tire you all had on the pint x in the off road / range test but it’s sold out.

[@timberthewolf733]

Wonder if a regular pint bumper would fit on the front, would love to get that extra clearance.

[@TheFloatLife]

Yes it does

[@forestwalkercanmore]

noice ! seems like an aftermarket battery producer would be able to build a pack and boost the range up !

[@diamondfields6152]

Great content! Really helped me organize my thoughts! Gonna shred the px for now:) 🤙🏽 Please make new bumpers for the px, I’m thinking an asymmetrical solo plate with a handle🙏🏽 Can’t wait for y’all’s break down on the GT!

[@matt45540]

Can we get a comparison of the chi quart battery and the new pint. Hoping they'll drop the price/ upgrade the pint x range

[@Broosh]

What size tool did you use to take the plastic off the controller mod? Thanks in advance.

[@ps7045]

Will the same Kush Nug footpad for the Pint also work for the Pint X?

[@TheFloatLife]

Yes

[@slimdog72]

I enjoy your vid Jeff. Thanks for the inside peek.

[@crazyhuckman1]

How are the brass fittings on the new bumper? Do they look like they will come loose?

[@TheFloatLife]

Same as before.

[@bikemike2777]

You can put the fangs bumper on the front or stock bumper and give you more clearance

[@starbeam3464]

If you disconnect the battery on a pint ( in order to take on a plane) when you reconnect it I’ve seen if you do that on an XR classic it breaks the board and you can’t use it anymore is that the same situation on a pint?

[@sarahdaviscc]

Loved this. Would love to see inside the battery pack to see how it's built and what cells they're now using.

[@TheFloatLife]

It’s basically an XR pack

[@PhilCheplus]

Obviously, Sony Murata VTC6 cells in it. Just like the XR.

[@sarahdaviscc]

@iguazu Obviously?

[@PhilCheplus]

@@sarahdaviscc Yeah. Same number of cells, same capacity (324Wh), big chances the cells are Sony Murata VTC6 like Mario Contino says. Unless they chose to put other 3000mAh cells in the battery pack which is possible too. But the VTC6 work so fine ... Can't imagine Samsung 30Qs in it. 😅

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

im sure that the gt will have HUGEEEEE pushback at 18/19mph but my question is how will it handle

[@jaefrmbk2k]

same

[@TheFloatLife]

:(

[@CJ1KFPV]

Next day tears the pint to the ground lol u guys are great! Shout out to julian the camera legend!

[@Brandonogs]

Julian is the man

[@TheFloatLife]

JULIAN! JULIAN! JULIAN!

[@Mitchhedburg]

@The Float Life What is preventing someone from using a regular Pint front bumper on a Pint X to get some asymmetrical clearance goodness?

[@TheFloatLife]

Nothing, really.

[@cmclean300]

Will Float Plates for the Pint fit the Pint X as well?

[@TheFloatLife]

No, but there are pint X Float Plates here: thefloatlife.com/collections/float-plates/products/pint-x-float-plates

[@raulhariasl]

What a bummer that the conn socket HSG is the same (charging port to the BMS) hopefully with more range they lasting a little more, no problem with the regular charger but, that fast charger will fail for sure 😥. Thanks Jeff for the video, really appreciate the break down. 👍🏼

[@TheFloatLife]

🙏

[@theob1712]

Wait what does that mean? You shouldn't use the ultracharger?

[@raulhariasl]

@@theob1712 Well is not going to damage it overnight, that happened to me after 5k but, yes you shouldn't

[@ignasias]

So is it possible to fit a regular Pint front bumper on the Pint X for more clearance?

[@TheFloatLife]

I believe so. However that leaves your rails and underbelly exposed.

[@prplsage]

any chance the software of the OG pint would allow the pint X battery to replace the old?

[@TheFloatLife]

Nah, I doubt it.

[@xavierathorne]

I wonder if an AirTag or a Tile could fit in that open square in the bumper?

[@TheFloatLife]

Shoot, maybe!

[@satchels6451]

im wondering if you can put a pint x battery into a regular pint for the extra mileage. ???

[@TheFloatLife]

No

[@idkimnotsure1960]

Would you be able to put a stock pint front bumper on the pint x?

[@TheFloatLife]

I believe so.

[@jeremyshearer]

You can use the original front bumper for the pint x to get some clearance back

[@TheFloatLife]

Yes

[@chantal7]

That’s very cool Jeff - thank you for sharing this! I was interested in seeing the upgrades on the bolt by the power button. Thank god they fixed that. Also cool they made the front area insides better too. Do those LED lights shine brighter than the first Pint?

[@TheFloatLife]

Same exact lights

[@chantal7]

@@TheFloatLife ugh, so disappointing. Thanks for the reply! 😊

[@danscottobb]

Is the Pint X able to achieve the same angle going up/down hills with the added battery 🔋 on the bottom side of the board? Compare to the original Pint.

[@TheFloatLife]

Probably close to it, but you lose a touch of clearance

[@danscottobb]

could you guys post a pic of them side by side to compare?

[@caughdog]

Thank you!!!

[@pianoforteadorecchio9596]

Is the battery charger/ultracharger the same as the old PINT?

[@tristanskylark]

Can you put an old pint bumper on a pint X and make it thin in the front again?

[@jaefrmbk2k]

👀

[@TheFloatLife]

I believe so

[@xfleazillax8413]

I’d love to see a side by side comparison of the controller and battery pack, either by pic or screen shot.. Seeing the OG bumper against the new thickness wise would be cool too!

[@Hmooblis916]

Will the x controller be fitted to the og pint to unlock the extra mph push back that the x has?

[@josecortes6485]

Probably not because a lot of the pint's tech is software paired. Hence why battery mods aren't an option on newer boards

[@TheFloatLife]

No

[@loweffortengineering9736]

can you put a pint bumper on it to fit a sonny wheels slider?

[@TheFloatLife]

Probably

[@eduardito69]

That video is RAD, thanks Jeff! Could you do an experiment? Can you swap the battery with a normal Pint and see if it is recognized as a Pint X? Thanks and float on

[@wedominate1329]

Are the front led lights brighter?

[@TheFloatLife]

I don't think so?

[@Brandonogs]

Doing the lords work

[@jaefrmbk2k]

🎯

[@MrDmadness]

Murdering millions to placate ego? I dunno I think these guys are pretty decent, would not compare them to an omnipotent self absorbed sky fairy 😉

[@jaefrmbk2k]

@@MrDmadness 🎯🎯😄

[@Brandonogs]

Sheeesh lol 🤦🏻‍♂️ can’t have fun online anymore

[@oscarpicazo5367]

Hey Jeff or float team what style of pliers should I use?

[@meganwinters5163]

Is any of the internals conformal coated?? Sry not a onewheel owner... Yet 😅

[@TheFloatLife]

Yes

[@edwinblackledge2447]

Hey my name is Eddie and I own a gtxr shredder and I wrote it in the rain one day and I plugged it in I heard a pop do they have fuses in them are you able to replace the fuse in a one wheel Eddie from Minneapolis

[@tmarkk99]

Awesome vid. Thanks! Cw to get my pintx.

[@FlyShoebill]

Is it possible to attach OG pint front bumper to pint X?

[@TheFloatLife]

Yes

[@hassanjanjua3088]

Jeff what's your favorite tire for floating on the XR in the city?

[@TheFloatLife]

I like the Burris Street Pro. The cloud and whisper are also fun tires.

[@FuquaRomeo]

Please let us know if the LED headlights appear to be brighter than the original Pint. My Pint light is just barely bright enough for night riding. It would really be nice if it was even a little brighter.

[@TheFloatLife]

I didn't notice, but I think it's the exact same

[@FuquaRomeo]

@@TheFloatLife Bummer. Also, they should have added audio / visual feedback when the board pushes back. The battery LEDs should flash red and the board should beep. Or, they could use the battery LEDs as a speedometer. It would be nice to have a visual indicator of speed (without having to look at your phone).

[@concrete-waves]

this breakdown is awesome!

[@TwoWheelWarrior]

Way to go buddy!

[@chasepennel2148]

OG Pint float plates work with the new bumpers?

[@TheFloatLife]

The OG ones might possibly work, but Solo won’t

[@_Alex_Sander]

@@TheFloatLife Pint Bang bumpers? ;)

[@__-cy9mv]

Did unplugging the BMS brick this pintx? I know the bms and controller are serialized, just wondering how deep the bricking software goes on this model...seems like future motion wants to destroy this unit if you unplug anything.

[@TheFloatLife]

that's just GT.

[@__-cy9mv]

@@TheFloatLife Good to know! Thanks for the reply!

[@OSBSQuinnFoster]

@@TheFloatLife and GT-S, and XRC

[@Rs-surfnturf]

Can u please answer this question: do the pintx railgaurds work on the pint???

[@TheFloatLife]

Sidekicks work, I know that for sure.

[@Rs-surfnturf]

@@TheFloatLife thanks

[@lcprod]

Thanks

[@xsingxhaix]

How soon you think we’ll get float plates for the Pint X?

[@TheFloatLife]

Probably won't honestly... BANG bumpers tho...

[@xsingxhaix]

@@TheFloatLife I hope you guys have some available. My Pint X arrives Wednesday and I kind of don’t want to ride till I get the bang bumpers. For now though I’m still enjoying my Pint on the newly installed TFLxBurris XtraRad tire.

[@redboyjan]

@@xsingxhaix they just got their hands on the board for the first time. Be a while yet bro

[@CM-bn1ri]

Charging wire harness -> BMS the same? Gonna be the weak point with everybody wanting to hypercharge as a standard if so.

[@c0pyimitati0n]

Why can't FM make the Onewheel as fast as a Boosted Board?

[@rileywaldo1580]

I've heard that removing the battery can brick the one wheel and has to be sent into Future Motion for them to reset it. Is this true for the Pint X or is that a GT thing?

[@FloNoTrail]

Yeah, would also be keen to know the answer to this…

[@TheFloatLife]

GT only

[@FloNoTrail]

@@TheFloatLife - cheers guys thanks for that. 👍🏼

[@Lukehot215]

Is the charging port the same as the OG pint?

[@TheFloatLife]

Yes

[@lol_russ]

I want to see if you could put some of the essential parts of the pint x to the regular pint and get similar results. If so, that could pave way for Regular pint users to upgrade their board instead of buying and entirely new one.

[@TheFloatLife]

Folks will be buying the Pint X for the range and you can't swap the batteries.

[@ccdemagician2]

thanks for showing the inside of the controller using the new nut XD

[@TheFloatLife]

No worries!