CONTROVERSIAL: THE WORST MANAGER IN THE TOP 6 IS... 👀 | Team Talk Ep. 6

[@FootballDaily]

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[@declanmcelroy9775]

I actually rate this show should definitely do this more often. Keep up the quality content lads

[@FootballDaily]

At least 4 more planned before the end of the year big dog! [Hamill]

[@declanmcelroy9775]

@@FootballDaily Absolute legend

[@adawongsitonmyface]

@@FootballDaily only 4 :(

[@saulrapley7979]

Yeah its my favourite show on the channel now, great format

[@jacksonramey7003]

Would love to see James Lawrence Alcott on here. Could be a great mix up in the group. JLA vs Pat would be awesome.

[@_Rosebud]

Godzilla vs Kong

[@Wormage101]

Howe's job at Bournemouth is always underrated. Taking them form League 2 to the Premier League and keeping them there for as long as he did was just amazing.

[@lewisbromilow9046]

They always slate his poor defence record but he also didn’t have a big budget or great players to sort this, really did well with what he had.

[@MashiatCOD99]

@@lewisbromilow9046 He did spend though, but almost none of his signings were good. He basically stuck with his exact same core from day 1 to the end. Ake, Cook, Daniels, Lewis Cook, Fraser, Wilson etc.

[@lewisbromilow9046]

@@MashiatCOD99 I know a lot of the attacking players he signed were poor, honestly couldn’t remember who he signed in defence

[@saganpatel7485]

I believ they finished top half once too

[@joepattinson7601]

@@saganpatel7485 9th in his second season, not talked about enough

[@srijanrawat62]

Zak making the prediction about Potter, giving Mystic Mike vibes.

[@FootballDaily]

We should bring MM back for the WC! [Hamill]

[@dylanpriest9756]

Feel like the whole "start vs bench vs sell" problem could be solved by simply ranking things first, second and third

[@gatesus]

You must be a lot of fun at parties

[@ashdude3058]

@@gatesus yeah but like they can just make it that way and keep calling start vs bench vs sell, or like replace sell with let go 😭

[@peace4045]

Naah then it leaves little room for debate over preference. Bcoz some prefer to start and some wanna sell.

[@BantonyCS]

Pat: wouldn’t wear a hat because he‘s not bald Also Pat:wearing a hat indoors

[@harshdeshpande3382]

Please make this a weekly thing in the future like Sunday vibes

[@ciarancarlinfc]

JUSTICE FOR MY LIST 🏆 BIG BASTARD BALL KNOWLEDGE IMO

[@loserface5000]

The streets won’t forget 🙏

[@Chikara_Gaming]

I say keep reviewing the rules every episode, I absolutely love the whole chaos of it all😂 Come up with a consensus on the rules and parameters of the segment based on whos on the show

[@jonathonmaudlin2307]

I think the debate should be about the player abilities not financial value Therefore I think it should be “Start, Bench or Release”

[@StrafePX]

Need to see Ciaran as the ref again for SW, even if it is just a one time appearance

[@rafaelgarcia4747]

The lispy king!! Loving this episode. Keep up the good work fellas Should out from Chicago

[@ulisesderas5773]

laughing my ass off at the Best Hair rankings lol

[@jaisriram295]

I thought the whole point of start, bench or sell was to do with which one you wouldn't keep and nothing to do with getting money for them

[@FootballDaily]

YOU LOT WILL BEVER BE HAPPY!

[@guyfawkes3181]

@@FootballDaily typo. “Never”

[@jaisriram295]

@@FootballDaily it does matter because the whole point is a ranking of the 3

[@MrVinjex]

@@FootballDaily they never will but I guess people want it based on ability alone

[@Anderslaw]

@@FootballDaily It's such a simple concept that every twitter account seems to understand. I don't get how you're overthinking this. Also why is Bench below Sell in the graphic?

[@GideonRosen0412]

Zac about Potter... "He'll probably get the next top 6 job" pain

[@cparry1712]

Change 'Start, bench, sell' to 'Start, bench, cut' probably sorts things out a bit. Love these vids, would love to see them more often

[@ZachCooper88]

Trying to win an argument against Pat is like taking a ham sandwich to gun fight! He’s brilliant!

[@LL-lz6kh]

Rodger’s finished 5th back to back which sounds good but if u look at it they really bottles 4th more than gained 5th

[@gavinpower2020]

shoutout Ciaran, this is a certified 90+1 facts classic

[@B4kerG]

The thing is about City and the CL is that everything is a bonus. Being a City fan is pretty much stress free after growing up watching them so average

[@LVlll99]

Dennis Bergkamp:great creativity, better pace, decent finishing. ruud van nistelrooy: poucher/ finisher Robin van Persie: all round striker

[@Kun..07]

Bergkamp was a footballing genius. Lol don’t compare them to him. His vision was incredible. The other two are fantastic strikers but not as fantastic a ‘footballer’ as Bergkamp. Not even close to what Bergkamp was at his prime. Also he was a false 9. More of a 10.

[@sandieeeeeee]

But weird that ten hag gets negative points for having talents like de jong and de ligt but arteta doesn’t for having martilnelli, Gabriel and saka

[@Patrick-mn7bg]

Why is it weird? The Arsenal players are much weaker, that’s why ;)

[@hamster4810]

Gabriel was bought by arteta, and saka was essentially brought through by arteta

[@sandieeeeeee]

@@hamster4810 so? What’s your point?

[@peace4045]

Also the core of that squad like Fdj, Dvd and DeLigt have not been great after leaving. He also make the most out of players who were not really doing it such as Tadic, Blind and Haller. I would put him above Arteta at 5th.

[@alfiedunn6229]

Moyes is so underrated. How Pat can put Vieira over him is beyond me. He took palace from 14th to 12th, while Moyes took from 16th to 6th and 7th, not to mention the job he did at Everton.

[@tevezloins9722]

He still had his time at united and sociedad so regardless of what he’s done now his credibility will be tainted

[@alfiedunn6229]

@@tevezloins9722 had no time at either club.

[@tevezloins9722]

@@alfiedunn6229 he got a szn or two at united bro, even with no time he shouldn’t have finished as low as he did with that squad

[@abdiazizosman5521]

@@tevezloins9722 I agree he was average at United but to be fair, he had 10 months at United and was fired before the season ended. It seems he wasn’t backed properly to get his signings to add to an ageing squad like Kroos.

[@tevezloins9722]

@@abdiazizosman5521 ye maybe I’m remembering it wrong but still the signings he made with the football he played was horrendous

[@krsreedhar212]

When was the video made???... Everyone talking about Thomas Tuchel...... But a great episode 👌👌👌

[@ploppolarbear3394]

Team talk is like a more organised and professional FFO, if ykyk

[@jacknorman8236]

Just for context I’m a Watford fan I don’t like Bournemouth at all. I can’t really wrap my head around Pat saying the job Howe did at Bournemouth was shite.. Took them from league two to prem, and I p until their relegation, they got progressively better on a small budget with players like Simon Francis and Junior Stanislas being regular for them and he made them good. I can’t understand that, sorry.

[@rexreed4234]

Bergkamp was nicknamed the Iceman. He was absolutely cold-blooded as a finisher. And from every range.

[@SwiftySorare]

think this is up there with stat wars and sunday vibes could be my favourite to watch keep em coming!

[@BusterBarnes]

Love this show hope it becomes more regular at some point

[@hjc9912]

The disrespect to Eddie Howe really is unbelievable. He wasn’t bad at Bournemouth, he literally saved their football club and brought them from league 2 to the Premier League, got them 9th, kept them up for 5 seasons, and then got loads of injuries in their relegation season. Then he came into a rotten Bruced Newcastle team, second bottom who everyone said were already down, and finished comfortably 11th with Trippier and Wilson injured, turning players who’s careers looked over into crucial first team players.

[@richardmatthias6098]

Sure all of those are impressive, but the same can be said for the other managers they put in front of him.

[@owenthompson5214]

@@richardmatthias6098 ok apart from rodgers name them?

[@keitholiver6152]

well said Hjc99

[@richardmatthias6098]

​@@owenthompson5214 Potter has the Ostersund story and progressed the team in the Prem better than Howe. Rodgers literally won trophies. Moyes has decades of keeping Everton in top Prem places, got to cup finals, took West Ham to Europe. Putting those three in front of Howe is not even worth debating.

[@keitholiver6152]

If we are basing this on history Rodgers wins hand down, followed by Moyes. But we aren't. We are looking at right now and the future, with the past in mind. Rodgers and Moyes are on downward spirals. West Ham & Palace will finish comfortably mid table, far behind Howes Newcastle. Howes managerial style will take Newcastle to top 4, top 6 contenders this year. Potter is very similar to Howe. If you watched Newcastle Palace recently you'd see how wrong your comments are Pat. Viera is still learning his style is counter attacking football mostly, lacking top quality structure to dominate games. He is relying on the likes of Zaha

[@tanakacraigkaseke5368]

Ciarans's take on Tuchel is hilarious :))

[@padraiglavery7471]

Loved to you ciaran back, would love to see dave and john

[@CheesyOGs]

It would appear this was recorded before Tuchel was sacked

[@williamlucas8867]

Pat's 'bananas' counter is pretty high in this ep

[@SachinSingh-rt1pp]

Pat and his Barcelona hating ways, absolutely hilarious, will love a comment from him after the game tonight 😂😂😂

[@harshdeshpande3382]

He didn't say anything wrong tho, if Lewy gets injured who plays striker for you ?

[@SachinSingh-rt1pp]

@@harshdeshpande3382 Depay, fati, Ferran tho he is a bit shaky. Also any team can suffer an injury to their key player does that mean the team is going to absolutely get battered, like you can say that for any team, for ex Liverpool lost van dijk in 2021 every player lost their edge, but I don't see anyone saying the same about any other team. And if you are following the channel for long everyone knows pat despises barca because of the humiliations that they gave his beloved arsenal

[@SouthPark12369]

Zac saying potter will get the next top 6 job then days later becoming the manager of his club is funneh

[@_Chairman_Meow]

Moyes’ 8 years at Everton were really over looked here. Brilliant and consistent on a shoe string budget

[@EmmaUwU69]

Talking about Ten Haag’s Ajax team having talent to undermine the accomplishment despite the absolutely stacked squad pep has

[@aze4964]

This is a great series I hope it keeps going

[@benashe72]

We didn't get "knocked" out of the Conference League groups, we couldn't play the last game of the groups because of COVID and Rennes refusing to reschedule so they get an automatic 3-0 win.

[@oisinkearns2788]

So u got knocked out of the conference league

[@benashe72]

@@oisinkearns2788 Considering we couldn't play the last game because of COVID, it's unfair to put that on Conte isn't it.

[@oufc90]

Haven’t watched much of this channel before, but I think Joe has the best football knowledge here. Some takes from others were horrible

[@gabrielzadoni2149]

I couldn't concentrate on what you guys were talking cause I was absolutely gobsmacked by Hamill's new earring

[@simeonlp]

I would watch this weekly, it's manna from football podcast heaven

[@adonayvillagran2444]

Love the dynamic of the show some dum arguments that cause laughter and than Pato giving stats to get the w

[@puig031]

Would like to see pat and Dougie and Henry with Sam. I just imagine all of them (including Hamill) destroying Sam all episode long. Especially henry after the stat wars upset

[@gunmankhan8167]

Vieira has turned Palace around so quickly to the point where they can tactically compete with every single team in the league. Wolves and Leicester can't do that.

[@maskedriderkiva1]

What Joe say about Klopp is on point. 100% correct. BTW he is a Man Utd fan. LOL

[@zakarysmyth9008]

WASNT EXPECTING THIS TODAY. LFG!!!!!

[@yourdadhasadogfilter2505]

Demba Ba in a "streets won't forget" discussion 🤣🤣🤣

[@MaxDangVu]

Welcome back Ciaran!!!

[@jingyjongman6038]

Pat had THE perfect reaction to demba ba being a streets won’t forget player

[@Nefariousbig]

RvN wasn't nearly as limited as some of you think. He was absolutely lethal inside the box, yes, but wasn't 'just a poacher' at all. He wasn't a Benzema or a Kane either but he could play.

[@kwameaddo-obiri9455]

Yeah, I think people just look at his assist numbers and think, "Oh well, all he did was score." I absolutely agree with you

[@matthewshaw4937]

Start, bench, sell should be start, bench, cut So it’s not about how much they’d get you, you’re just getting rid of them

[@MrYeet-kv3wj]

Top 6 manager ranking 1. Pep 2. Klopp 3. Conte 4.Tuchel 5. Arteta 6. Eth 7-12 ranking 1. Rodgers 2. Moyes 3. Howe 4. Vieira 5. Lage 6. Potter

[@Shaaad365]

All of the tuchel stuff before the sacking makes it hilarious

[@_Rosebud]

my favourite FD show by the distance between Man City & Bournemoth

[@inghell]

"Send some poo in the post!' What a way to end the video 😂

[@decafjose]

I’m still trying to get over all those FA cup finals Chelsea lost, Ciaran😂😂😂

[@tomcrookes4630]

was worried when this didn't come out.

[@aloysiusmaina2625]

"It takes a day to get over it" Right.😳

[@rorymarchant9164]

I really enjoyed this format

[@Biillehh]

Make it “Start one” “Bench one” “Release one” imo

[@FootballDaily]

Interesting. A definitive way to kill off Thomlinson's argument. [Hamill]

[@jonathanchen5906]

The disrespect on Lage😭

[@Max-ok8js]

The fact that 2 of the 6 Managers were pep Guardiolas assistant managers completely ends the argument

[@jhaych]

Arteta and who else?

[@Max-ok8js]

@@jhaych Ten Hag at Bayern

[@jhaych]

@@Max-ok8js wasn't his assistant

[@Max-ok8js]

@@jhaych he was part of the managerial staff mate... Similar/same role

[@joshdavo1068]

Love this fellas❤️

[@garynewman4149]

Best show of the week! On all of youtube...

[@zackYeahbuddy]

PVS was incredible this episode lmfaooo

[@whatpoppingb104]

Why’s a manager with back 2 back 8th place finishes even in the conversation

[@randeepclair9283]

Do cut instead of sell then the transfer fee will not factor into it at all

[@fugaziishime]

Another classic Thomlinson L. you Love to see it

[@MrPooley1]

Zach doesn’t have a clue 🤣🤣🤣

[@ryanscott2812]

the sell should be like termanite contrat/loan just so u dont have to think about money

[@Belligerentpotatoes]

“He didn’t win we just lost it” is the worst way to describe that Champions League Final, considering Chelsea clearly and definitively out played City. Ciaran man allow it lmao

[@fpl_djhammer]

I forgot which club Ciaran supported until I watched the segment where he explained why Tuchel is bottom for him 😂😂😂😂😂

[@camarec2282]

Ciaran Carlin is my spirit animal for not giving a shit about the champions league, i’ve never found the appeal of it

[@owenthompson5214]

I know rather play Bournemouth or crystal palace every week than real madrid or bayern munich

[@Darko_Milosevski03]

Hey FD please bring back Cieran He is hilarious Plz bring back Cieran

[@nicocorbo4153]

I wish the rows were "start, bench, sell" I feel like that makes more sense than "start, sell, bench"

[@sharonsmith5843]

The Arsenal fan claiming you can basically judge Rodgers on the ways he’s performing then puts a manager with back2back 8th placed finishes above ten haag

[@sharonsmith5843]

@s your embarrassing won’t even waste my time

[@sharonsmith5843]

@s you’ve just distance (two whole season) (Two 8th place finishes) away from Arteta and you expect me to even debate with you? Your deluded honestly

[@sharonsmith5843]

@s you can praise him for winning a FA cup in he’s first season but can’t take account for him having the worse place in Arsenals history not once but twice🤣in fact you blame the manager emery which got you to a European final and has the best league Position in the last few years absolute melt you are don’t even reply

[@tayfluskey7712]

We need one of these were 3 of the people always agree so Oba loses his head. It'd be great telly

[@fergusbowen8266]

Which one season wonder was best in their prime? Michu Wilfred Bony Andy Carroll

[@diggajpyakurel]

Carroll was not a one season wonder, he had a decent career with west ham

[@hamster4810]

1. Michu 2. Andy Caroll 3. Bony

[@Lukerpisani13]

This show is pretty decent and if its heated its better

[@edwardjackson8819]

Ciaran is back 🥹 my heart is filled with happiness once again

[@mathyscazenave]

start bench sell could become start sell drop, then the money isn't a thing

[@tm_yt496]

9:46 Demba ba💀

[@poetanderson3]

To this day, if it wasn’t for Ruud v. Nistelrooy, I would’ve never fallen in love with a) Football & b) Manchester United

[@barry4649]

Arteta or Potter obviously, probably Arteta since Potter brought Ostersunds a long way

[@voidoflife7058]

Ten hag?

[@ToshJury]

@@voidoflife7058 You can’t be serious.

[@Nine5Vader]

@@voidoflife7058 what are you smoking?

[@voidoflife7058]

Did I run into a United circle jerk or something? We’re just accepting right now that ten hag is definitely better than arteta and potter because he got ajax to a cl semifinal? I’d probably say arteta is the worst, but I think potter is probably better than ten hag

[@footballhipstertv]

Arteta by far. Potter instilled his style of play at Brighton immediately, Arteta needed 3 years at Arsenal to start looking like a proper team

[@razvancedricpirtica5294]

Tuchel on his feelings seeing this:)))

[@tomschuette3730]

Ciaran telling me to subscribe to his football channel and then putting Tuchel bottom. I tell you what, I clicked on the channel just to see if there were any other mental takes

[@fatimaali9699]

Chelsea manager is sacked

[@Nightsu]

the disrespect to RVN in unreal. none of these lot have watched him surely, the guy scored 20 goals in every prem season but one

[@ThePatriots1959]

27:25 Pats argument here is laughable, "they shouldn't have won the FA cup and finished 5th" doesn't matter they did.

[@lxCIRCUSDOG]

Anybody else's ads bugging out and only playing for 1 second rather than 5?

[@kieran773ful]

Let’s all be honest the streets forgot taarabt

[@samuelclark3465]

Should have got Ciaran to edit the video too

[@ishaanpatel9691]

Well done to the football Daily team for kicking Ciaran out of the group!!

[@KCIAN2]

Disagree about van Persie having a longer prime than van Nistelrooy. First of all, what are we talking about prime, when they were at the top of their game or who played longer in the Premier League. van Nistelrooy scored 384 career goals, to van Persie's 322. From 1998 to 2008, van Nistelrooy was at his goalscoring best . That's a 10 year period. He scored less than 20 goals in all comps twice, the last season at PSV and the 04-05 season at United, both of which he was hampered with injury. In that 10-year career span he scored 313 goals. It's hard to find a real, long-sustained period for van Persie of his goalscoring prime, that could even compare to van Nistelrooy. I would use his first 20-goal season in 08-09 to his last 20-goal season with Fenerbahce in 15-16. That 8-year period he scored 212 goals for club and country. van Nistelrooy literally scored 9 less goals in his 10-year prime than van Persie did in his entire career. Complete recency bias, imo. Also, Bergkamp is completely overrated.

[@yourdadhasadogfilter2505]

Van Nistelrooy's spell at Madrid is very underrated

[@MrVinjex]

You had me till the Bergkamp line and now you've negated your entire smart and coherent argument

[@giovannycruz3949]

Idk how Barcelona could underachieve in CL this season because what are they expected to achieve? If they get 2nd in their group that is not an underachievement against Bayern. Then due to being 2nd we could end up playing city or PSG in round of 16 and they are simply better than us at the moment. Pat hates Barcelona lol

[@HunterKing1112]

Watching this after Tuchel was sacked is interesting

[@Hhammer]

Calling Howe dogshit is so disrespectful. His Bournemouth run was amazing.