Fire Emblem ALL Protagonists Tier List

[@TheGameShelf]

Hey guys! Seeing how well this video is performing got me motivated to make MUCH more Fire Emblem content than I already do, is there a particular thing you would like to see in the future? It can be another tier-list, a game I haven't reviewed yet, character analysis, I'm open to hear what you guys would be interested in and from that make another video you can greatly enjoy

[@pokendo49]

hagalo papu lesssgooooooo!!

[@athenabaer3185]

I have an idea: Why not a character analysis of Hector and what makes him your favorite Fire Emblem protagonist? Or perhaps you could do a couple tier lists on your favorite archetypes? The sky’s the limit in terms of Fire Emblem, but I feel like these two could be good. But you can do whatever you’d like and I won’t be mad 😊

[@JEANS__]

fe4 review

[@spidermelon]

Honestly unit tier lists for each individual game would be 🔥🔥🔥

[@8bitLink1H8C0NS131]

I’d love to see a FE main villian tier list

[@lowtechredneck6704]

Hector: "He's actually one of my favorite video game characters of all time!" The first time I heard that line, I thought he said "he's sexually one of my favorite video game characters of all time!"

[@TheGameShelf]

Given how I talked about him, that quote wouldn't be too far off from reality lmao

[@CenturyBlade]

Yeah that's not the only time "He sexually" comes up in this video either 🤣

[@kunnykuni]

You actually need 5 words to describe Kris : Marth, Training, Granpa and Silly Hats Do not forget about the silly hats !

[@TheGameShelf]

I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT THE SILLY HATS The Wrys hairstyle will forever remain the best

[@kunnykuni]

@@TheGameShelf When I played New Mystery, silly hats cutscenes where my favorite moments ! So fun !

[@AleisterL]

The strategy is temporal, the waifus are eternal. -The Game Shelf, probably

[@TheGameShelf]

-At some point while I was drunk, perhaps

[@orangeslash1667]

@@TheGameShelf the Reason for Fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligent Systems had an idea for Fates to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Intelligent Systems knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.

[@Talessaga2]

The only fact I do remember about Rowan and Leanne is that in Japanese are voiced by actual brother and sister voice actors Yuuma Uchida and Maaya Uchida.

[@TheGameShelf]

Oh wait really? That's pretty cute actually

[@Talessaga2]

@@TheGameShelf Yeah kinda sad yet not surprised that the english dub didnt tried to replicate it.

[@ayanamiayachanJ]

@@TheGameShelf I named my betta fish after Marth

[@luminary97]

Pretty good list overall IMO. One thing I'd like to mention is that even though I like Corrin, I agree with everything you said about them. I'm also glad you brought up the fact people love giving female Corrin a pass just for being female because that was something that always bothered me.

[@kinokomonkey]

I think the same. I like fates and corrin but the part of f corrin is better Is a little bit... Stupid

[@Lechgang]

To be completely fair, Female Corrin has Warriors to fall back on, and most of the people I talk to agree that Warriors Corrin is better than Fates Corrin in nearly every way. IIRC Male Corrin is also in Warriors but he's unlockable afterwards, and you'll be spending the main story with F!Corrin. Aside from that, the best I can say is that a lot of Corrin's lines and supports read differently between the male and female variants. They carry the same story in the games, but I'd argue that F!Corrin is meant to be more cute and cheery, while M!Corrin is meant to be cooler and braver. Obviously they fill the same role narratively, but these are the traits I'd argue are more expanded upon between genders. F!Corrin can pull off being cute, if not in her personality at least in her design. M!Corrin cannot pull off being cool.

[@everettwatsonrazorearcwolf6553]

To explain my shift, I won’t count Warriors (Though I am one of those people who believe Corrin was MUCH better there than her home game): I associate Female Corrin to Conquest Route while Male Corrin to Birthright. Even the cover art and Feh to a degree supports this notion. And it’s my preference in their executions in game, supports, etc. But they’re equally bad overall 😂

[@dashthehedgehog2612]

Agreed, it always irritated me Male Corrin gets pushed behind Female Corrin just for being a guy. I feel like that alone is what pushed me towards liking Male more over the years and even now, actually.

[@cc2255tt]

Personally I only like female Corrin over male is the voice direction. Both versions have the personality of wet paper in the original Fates. Yet female’s appearances in other games, the voice sounds like she is willing to fight and kick your ass to save her friends. Male is just like “um I’ll fight, I don’t wanna but I will, probably just to save my friends.”

[@aldragod4513]

33:59 I played fe heroes years ago in high school, and one time I booted the game and forgot to turn down my sound, and who else could announce the game in that scenario but sharena. The embarrasment I felt in that moment has engrained that memory deep in my brain.

[@The.baddest_]

REAL AHAHAH

[@DanDaDnaMan]

Bro. Ike is easily SSS. Imagine being so anti racist that you convert racists into anti racists by simply being built different 😎

[@ZX-Gear]

Funny enough the whole racism started cause in Tellius,Replacement Theory is not a theory.

[@nilantive]

I thought I was just going to skip to the end but your energy was SO infectious and it was really entertaining listening to what you had to say even for characters I couldn't care less about, subbed!!

[@TheGameShelf]

Aw, thanks a bunch friend fr it means a lot, there's more content on the way, including Fire Emblem so I hope you look forward to that

[@Unknown-wb4ex]

One more cool thing about Ike, he doesn't even have an epithet in the ending of radiant dawn. It just reads "ike". That's all he wanted to be known as, just Ike. (Also his ending with Soren is so wholesome)

[@spiderzsonic6581]

I think that was a translation error actually but it does make it stand out more ironically lol

[@lemonhead19]

Glad to see Big Dick Alfonse getting the appreciation he deserves. If only he was the lord in an actual FE game with a good story…

[@TheGameShelf]

Problem is, Heroes' stories always have the potential to be good, but since they have to wrap them up in 13 chapters they always just end or lose steam very fast

[@lemonhead19]

@@TheGameShelf agreed. I think Books 3 or 5 especially had the potential to be spectacular. Kinda makes me wish that they would extend Books for longer than 13 chapters

[@BroodMeister]

Damn, all your Fire Emblem content is seriously making me consider getting back into the series!

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

I agree with a lot of things in this list, and I’m glad Ike, Edelgard, and Hector are all high up. I do have to disagree about the Claude part because while he is almost perfect, he does have a flaw, and that’s his trust issues. Even though he has great genuine good ideals, he starts off trying to learn everyone, and kind of using people to his own benefit, or interest, and thinks for the longest time that Byleth is lying to him about they’re power. I like how as the game progresses, he just about everything he says and does starts becoming genuine, and he starts believing in his friends and that he can accomplish things with them, and even shares his dream with Byleth. Also, I used to dislike his S support with Byleth because I used to think the just kind of ditched her, but then I realized he actually did come back to Byleth, and I like how him telling Byleth to wait for him and basically trust that he will be back because all of the timeskip, Claude genuinely put all his trust in Byleth, so he wants Byleth to trust him that he’ll settle things in Almyra so they can be together. Great list though, and I’m still glad you put Claude high up. I do agree though that Claude should’ve been just as tactical as Yuri since Claude is called the schemer

[@eponahorse6093]

Big disagree on Dimitri's redemption arc. You can clearly see Dimitri starting to come around before his redemption, and you can see snippets of his hateful side afterward. Before Rodrigue dies there's a monk in the monastery saying Dimitri was patting the head of an orphan; how he tells Dedue to never throw his life away; how he hesitates when Byleth asks him if he regrets killing the soldiers. And you can see his hateful demeanor come back when facing Cornelia. People who say Dimitri turned around too fast just didn't pick up on the cues imo, which admittedly are tough to spot on the first playthrough but are fairly obvious in hindsight.

[@ZX-Gear]

Ah yes. The anathema of most media consumers. Lack of Media Literacy added with short attention span.

[@chromlowell7976]

Aside from what you said, another reason Chrom is my favorite fire emblem character is how willing he is to follow his instinct no matter what everyone says. We see this many times including the very beginning when Chrom first finds Robin, and when Chrom marries Olivia if you go that route (their flashback scene calls it out directly). No other FE character is as confident in their instincts and willingness to trust not only their friends, but themselves at the same time. He’s literally a chosen champion of a goddess and the Awakener but when she tells him what to do he says “I make my own fate” and does whatever he wants.

[@nuibaba280]

I feel like Celica and Roy deserved better than D tier. At least C. Sure they have their flaws, but they're way less offensive than the trash avatars and insufferable warriors OCs. Celica has a lot of charming dialogue and *really* good stuff despite some flaws in her route and had a great explored background than the whole lot of nothing Rowan, Lianna, and Kris have. She made a believable mistake from the environment she was raised in, she's a strong unit, and she's cute with Alm. Roy also has pretty good supports and characterization.

[@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon]

Agreed

[@Fermin-hw5pd]

Strong unit? Not from my experience, so far xd And yeah, Alm and Celica make a cute couple, until you find the ntrs

[@swen1208]

@@Fermin-hw5pd the only FE character that gets ntr'd is Sigurd.

[@Fermin-hw5pd]

@@swen1208 Canonically, of course

[@Evan_S_601]

Virgin Edelgard stan vs virgin Dimitri stan vs chad both enjoyer

[@TheGameShelf]

I pick both sides so I never lose

[@Evan_S_601]

@@TheGameShelf you never pick fights you don’t win lol

[@hydrocityspd2698]

Made me realize I actually do like Edelgard, good tier list friend.

[@TheGameShelf]

Edelgard simply.... simply the best

[@moltz4866]

LOL your nickname for Duessel killed me. Buen video!

[@TheGameShelf]

That's just how me and my friend refer to him all the time lmao

[@reicherwallace6774]

Ephraim is up there with Hector for me. But for the fact that he's actually the reason a demon lord possessed his friend. Being too perfect was actually his character flaw 😅

[@vopop30]

My top 3 lords are Eliwood, Seliph, and Dimitri, so I think our taste in characters overlap a bit. Rowan and Lianna are more believable as siblings than Eirika and Ephraim; you can give them that at least.

[@TheGameShelf]

That... much is true honestly, yeah nothing about them really made me feel uncomfortable

[@pordesgraciaalumnoup727]

Always a great thing to see, Hector getting the praise he deserves

[@emiliafigueredo1691]

I absolutely love robin, i came to this video to see where you ranked them and i definitely agree. If it wasn’t for them i would’ve never gotten into the franchise, now i have a Grima’s Truth tattoo and have played well over 6 fire emblem games in their entirety. Awesome tier list!

[@drpac9164]

Tierlist is great, imo and I mostly agree, tho I would've Sigurd on the S list since his story was so good. Edelgard, Hector, Ike, and Sigurd are my top 4 fav FE protags.

[@majesticbubbs]

I disagree with almost all of your placements, yet somehow you managed to explain your position well enough to where I can fully respect your decisions. Very nice work.

[@Erst999]

Someone who actually understand Micaiah character!? Frickin finally Solid tier list overall

[@BoomerMiku]

Immediately passed the vibe check with the Edelgard opinion

[@TheGameShelf]

Great minds think alike friend

[@hakirayleigh]

42:40 Me, who likes the female Corrin and her feet: "You made a powerless enemy"

[@toureyounouss7897]

I'm not scared, bring it on

[@Alice-FE]

I just found your channel, and it's amazing! Glad to see other latin American content creators. Saludos de Chile!

[@TheGameShelf]

Ayeee man thank you so much fr! I appreciate it, you'll see there's more content on the way and you wont be disappointed

[@manuelfinale9231]

I would put Dimitri on S-Tier, to be honest. If you look at the timeskip versions of Edlegard and Claude, they both are more than capable of leading their respective sovereigns. What does Dimitri have when you as Byleth are not playing the Azure Moon? Nothing but voices in his head and murder in his eyes. And let's not forget that Dimitri actually comforted Byleth and helped him deal with the loss of Jeralt. Edlegard seemed dismissive and rude, and Claude was noisy about Jeralt's journal. For me, Dimitri's development made Byleth's tutelage a much more significant investment

[@tomasgarcia7499]

True

[@Ninjaananas]

Edelgard was not dismissive. She just wanted Byleth to move on.

[@manuelfinale9231]

@@Ninjaananas Still, her approach just rubbed me the wrong way

[@Ninjaananas]

@@manuelfinale9231 It is the way she had to cope with her trauma and she has a will of iron. So she probably has trouble understanding when other people need to grieve for some time. She always had to move on and repress her emotions.

[@ray0064]

@@manuelfinale9231 it was more of a tough love approach that I was fine with but yeah Claude’s sucked

[@axltheriolu8791]

I feel like you missed the point of Roy (No I'm not talking about smash Roy.) The main point of fe6 is to accept change and grow with it. I felt like Roy encapsulates this perfectly in the new much better project naga translation patch. He starts off as a 15 year old teenager thrusted into a position he wasn't ready for. Which explains why he's underpowered unit in the start. And in his supports shows a stressed out person who feels like he doesn't deserve the high position he has and often gets depressed. Which to be honest almost any 15 year old who has to lead mens lives into combat and watch them die because of their mistakes is very likely to cause depression. Near mid game he has accepted the position he's in and grows from them having friends to confide in such as Marcus, Lillina , Sue, Alan, and Lance. He becomes a better strategist like the player and doesn't make as many mistakes. And in the nearing end of fully develops into a confident, strong man who has fully embraced his role and determined to end the suffering of the war. This is also represented in gameplay where he becomes a beast with the binding blade able to 1 round most enemies with it. As to paraphrase his battle with Zephiel "This war forced me to grow up and become strong enough to defeat you." He develops with the player and is only screwed over by the long time supports takes to build as well as the first translation patch many people used simplified alot of the finer details that the original had.

[@bog4612]

You know its really bad when instead of an artwork you get a meme, your name is said emotionless and the music is just... putrid? Poor Corrin lol

[@dylanpierce1419]

I think you should have placed Yuri somewhere on the list. I know he isn't technically a lord, but he's more of a main character imo than Rowan and Liane were.

[@TheGameShelf]

Since I was unsure about Yuri at the very least I wanted to give him an honorable mention, even telling the viewers where I'll put him It's hard to say if he's THE mc of Cindered Shadows, but at least I can say he's easily one of the best characters 3H has to offer

[@shirase8244]

Eliwood and Hector in S tier? Love to see it! ❤️ Also, really love the way you explained your reasons for your placements 💯

[@Ninjaananas]

This is a good video. Alone because you cherish Edelgard. She is just an amazing character.

[@TheGameShelf]

Great minds think alike friend

[@foulmouthwoman]

Edelgard is my personal favorite FE character

[@Ninjaananas]

​@@foulmouthwoman Same.

[@nintendolife25]

This is such an awesome Fire Emblem video! I really love the passion you express while explaining how much you like or not care for certain characters. Lyn’s my favorite female Lord but I won’t lie, her role have slowly diminished as the story progresses. But thank for for still giving her a decent rank. I also love how you detailed Marth. There’s always something charismatic about him and you just simply put it into words I couldn’t. Mad props for Ike and Hector in the high ranks! (And Corrin being just a terrible Lord in general.) Thanks, The Game Shelf. :)

[@acendantoverlord5737]

Ok now we need a power level tier list with all the protagonists!

[@TheGameShelf]

Ike is objectively SSS-tier, easiest pick

[@acendantoverlord5737]

@@TheGameShelf True IKE is a physical power house, but other protagonists are broken in their own way. For instance Byleth who can based on several factors (Crest and items) have regeneration aswell as rolling back time as it is a narrative ability Byleth has and not just a gameplay mechanic. Also ranged attacks.

[@MH_Zard]

I like this list. Alm, Robin, Hector, Edelgard, and Ike are my favorite mains too.

[@TheGameShelf]

Great minds think alike bro

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

edelgard is trash tho

[@MH_Zard]

@@mihaimercenarul7467 she isnt tho

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

@@MH_Zard oh but she is, simp. The writing for her is horrible and only simps would feel bad for her actions cuz she is a female that felt sad murdering people.

[@Peetwenty]

Came to see where you placed Ike. Didn't disappoint. Liked and subscribed. Telliusbros are family.

[@TheGameShelf]

Telliusbros always stick together! Thank you so much for the sub, there will be more FE content on the way

[@mayteflores3265]

All your videos are excellent! ✨I can see all your effort! Keep shining boy

[@TheGameShelf]

Ay muchas gracias amiga Mayte, eres la mejor!

[@DarthSigma86]

I loved this video so much. I would love to see a Fire Emblem antagonist tier list too.

[@TheGameShelf]

I'm trying to come up with more ideas for FE videos, so antagonists might be interesting too Not too sure if lots of people would love that but we gotta see

[@DarthSigma86]

@@TheGameShelf I'm sure they will. Everyone loooves learning about the bad guys....Unless it's Garon. (Ese viejo se puede pudrir con la mayoria del cast de Fates.)

[@breamorrill]

Thank you for appreciating Leif 😭

[@TheGameShelf]

It's a shame a lot of people can't appreciate him because he's super difficult to train in Genealogy and Thracia is a nightmare to complete But playing that game last year was a great experience that made me appreciate him a whole ton more

[@breamorrill]

@@TheGameShelf I completely get what you mean. Thracia was one of the last games I beat in the series, and it was indeed a nightmare to even play certain chapters. I thought it was amazing how this character actually had to deal with mistakes that he made, while seeing him grow into a great leader toward the end.

[@ashiharasaiyou2898]

bruh, thracia is the 2nd fire emblem i played

[@hyper9984]

I never thought Celica as dumb for trusting Jedah. She thought Mila was dead and without Duma, the rest of Valentia would become barren. She was willing to sacrifice her own soul to save Duma, something Mila did by sealing Falchion away. There was no way for her to know that Jedah, as untrustworthy as he is, to not unseal Mila. It was a dead end for her. She even told Halcyon that she was so lost, she didn't know what to do. She was certain her fate was die calming Duma's madness.

[@randyjr.arsenio5624]

I like how Roy and Eliwood aren't even on the thumbnail.

[@RaiBread776]

Finally someone who likes Micaiah Also Sigurd and Leif praise is always good Have a sub :)

[@TheGameShelf]

Much appreciated! Thank you very much

[@Fermin-hw5pd]

She has a pretty design, I have to say that (Not much else because I have tried to watch RD like 2 times, dropped it twice)

[@marsi1111]

I am HERE for the Alfonse love, the benchlord deserves it all (still not gonna use him but)

[@TheGameShelf]

You can change that if you use his New Year or Valentine's alts, way more usable than base Alfonse

[@giveroflemons537]

There was a point in my life where I really, really adored Corrin. To this day I still like them, and I even still go out of my way to summon their latest alt in FEH... but yeah there's no denying that they ain't the best protag in the series. I think I have developed my own take on the character and that's likely what's preventing me from dismissing them entirely. Even then, they're no longer my all time favorite character from Fire Emblem. That title belongs to Mae now.

[@TheGameShelf]

I can't blame you if you still have certain attachment to the character, it tends to happen

[@giveroflemons537]

@@TheGameShelf Of course. Fates was one game I sunk countless hours into and done many replays of. So of course, I grew to like "paper cup: the character".

[@pokefan7446]

I’m in a similar boat. When FEH started, and New Years Corrin was released, for whatever reason, a part of me just went "…I’ll invest in him. Why not?" And, ever since, I’ve just had this peculiar enjoyment of the Corrins. They’re poorly-written dorks, but they’re my poorly-written dorks.

[@robineis9460]

I believe fates is a game where the first time you play it (specially if you did around when it came out) you will love it, and overtime honeymoon ended and people began to, honestly deserved it, hate on it. I adored Conquest and even thought for a second that it was better than Awakening (which was my favorite game and still is). But when the hype of playing for the first time died, I started to see its flaws, lots of them, and came to not like it as much as I did at first.

[@luislara9952]

High 5 leftie fellow, hope for that video haha (also one of my favorite characters is lefty in Gilliam but no one remembers that, not even the artist)

[@NocturnalNovelist]

So happy Alm was high up on the list. I love the funny little humor man.

[@dezlovecraft5247]

This tier list is GOD! great work!

[@TheGameShelf]

Thanks a lot for the support I appreciate it, I'll keep delivering more FE content in the future

[@spidermelon]

Great video! Ngl, as a big shonen anime watcher, it hurt watching you not put Claude in S tier because he is “too perfect” but I can see where you’re coming from. 😂 also props for not forgetting about Rowan and Lianna. I honestly expected them to be left out.

[@pithes123]

no joke, as a fellow lefty i would be so down for a 'top left handed characters' tier list. just don't forget about my boy crono from chrono trigger.

[@themanwithaplan5425]

Or Link!

[@TheGameShelf]

If more people come with left-handed characters I can definitely consider doing that, Alm and Link are the first to come to mind but I'm sure there's more out there

[@pithes123]

@@TheGameShelf according to my memory (and a quick google search) some more leftys are artorius of the abyss from the 1st dark souls dlc. dude's left arm is broken and he fights you with his right,but lore conferms he's left handed my boy raphael and his adopted daughter amy from soul caliber. along with nightmare sepheroth from final fantasy 7 and if anime characters count uryu from bleach (leftys hold their bow in their right hand and the arrow in the left) and dabi from my hero academia

[@valarmis]

@@pithes123 and also Toby Determined from Gravity Falls

[@captaincringe9312]

I actually really agree with all the placements on this list. You summarized my thoughts on all the characters pretty much perfectly and I'm glad to see someone who doesn't just immediately say "Edelgard bad" but also doesn't try to gloss over her actions. I also get annoyed by Celica's reunion with Alm at the end of act 2 because I find her argument to be not only hypocritical but also ridiculously naive. It annoys me how she blows up on Alm for trying to protect his country.

[@tkdarkheart]

I'd like you to know, I was taking a drink when you called Seth "Seth Thundercock" and I almost died from it. Glorious joke tho! Plus, I agree with you about Corrin. I think narratively and character wise Fates is the shallowest but mechanically one of the better ones, unfortunately.

[@Mystikaela]

As a massive Claude enjoyer... yeah that's a fair criticism I have to agree with

[@LeoLucisCaelum7789]

Keep the good work

[@TheGameShelf]

If I don't then who will?

[@rushelricardolewis1393]

This is the best fucking commentary on one of my fav game series

[@SeelkadoomandJokic00]

I wanted to make a joke and say 'Where's Mark?' but uhh Kiran is on the list. Literally the same.

[@marcoantoniosalinasmiranda6798]

Good like always bro, continue making this kind of videos 😎

[@RookieErrant]

THANK YOU! Thank you for giving Eliwood the appreciation he deserves! Way, way too many people just say "he's Marth 2.0" or "he cries way too much." You managed to sum up what's great about Eliwood in a very succinct manner. Great video overall! There's not much I personally disagree with, and what I do disagree with, you do a good job at explaining why.

[@mauaglr]

I screamed when you said "oh my god they were roomates"

[@netslamders6803]

Corrin frustrates me to my core in the same way that Conquest does because they're both so close to being perfect but they're just so let down by writing. Like Conquest, Corrin is my favourite in the franchise in terms of gameplay and presentation. She strikes this perfect balance between always feeling like an important unit while also never being a carry, and you can get so creative with how you use her throughout the game. She also has my favourite character design. Also like Conquest, she had so much potential to be a good narratively. Corrin, in concept, is my favourite character in fe. She's a pawn in this massive war who knows shes on the wrong side but choses to fight anyways because she knows it's the only path to peace. So she has to endure the guilt and shame of killing the people she loves, constantly making extremely hard and immoral decisions with her only respite being that her sacrifices now will shape a better world for both sides of the war. I think that contrast of doing evil for the sake of good is so engaging and I wish the game was actually like this. Because, like Conquest, she completely falls apart because she's written like complete dogshit.

[@toureyounouss7897]

Yeah I think the problem are the versions themselves, why is there birthright and conquest ? Knowing her personality she shouldn't have to chose between the two family she loved and loved her (Revelation). Also her elder brothers couldn't sound more immature than this when corrin didn't want to join either side: "ohh! How could you attack my army, you're not my sister anymore, booooo" FRANKLY I REALLY HATED THAT PART Of Revelation However there is a character that deserve more hate than corrin (even if I like her) Do you know what character I'm talking about ?

[@hyperm8]

@@toureyounouss7897Could you give some hints as to who that character is? Is she from Fates or another FE game?

[@toureyounouss7897]

@@hyperm8 of course the character is from fates 😫. And the character I'm talking about is Azura

[@MazioD]

watching your videos knowing spanish sure is an experience

[@TheGameShelf]

Well you know me, I'm trying to reach a wider audience through language

[@Geese_boi777]

Despite three hopes having a rushed story, I liked the moral ambiguity of some of Claude’s actions toward the middle of the deer campaign. It adds some nuance to his golden boy persona

[@TheGameShelf]

I still don't play Claude's Route in Three Hopes but it's funny cause I've heard so many people have mixed opinions on Claude's actions. Really makes me wonder how much it'll affect my opinion on him

[@Geese_boi777]

@@TheGameShelf Yeah it’s definitely not award winning story telling lol, but it at least makes you doubt the purity of his ambition a bit

[@jakebaney46]

I'd put alm s tier now it may be biased because it's my favorite game in the series and my favorite cahrcater to but when you see all the pain and suffering he goes through everything he has to overcome and he still keeps that kindhearted joking personality it shows a lot of strength to his character he went from only having his grandpa as family to questioning his relation to his grandpa to meeting his father right after he just killed him to having to kill his cousin even though all he desires if family and to not be alone then he even has to fight celica who has been turned into a witch and kill he rto and even after all that he still respects his father's wishes and kills Duma thats why to me alm is the best cahrcayer in the series and he will always have a special place I feel I can relate to him a lot.

[@jakebaney46]

Should have been mire specific I can relate to the way he acts the caring joking will do anything for those he loves stuff

[@baffouradusei]

Great vid!!

[@StealthRed55]

Let's GOOO, Eliwood is in S Tier

[@shinyblue4774]

As a Sacred Stoned lover, being my first game I can say Valid honestly, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like them as much if it wasen't my first game or their relationship with Lyon Their relationship with each other kinda does suck, but I still adore Eirika by just how lovable she is and how her route shows us more about Joshua, and Ephraim for being a Himbo tm and having the best route for Lyon as a character. Still replay Sacred Stones for Cormag, Artur, Lyon, El sabroso para las con Daddy Issues, and many more, but they are still fine even if the less interesting part of their game.

[@TheGameShelf]

Yeah I have nothing against them, if I have to chose between love or hate, I'd say I love them. But unfortunately, as I said, every other character shines more for me

[@shinyblue4774]

@@TheGameShelf True Wish they where less bland, but we have SOME stuff for them if Feh so ill take it

[@spacelizbian]

It really caught me off guard that Lucina wasn't included here, since tbh she feels like she's the final piece of awakening's protagonist trio. She feels like she's almost as much of a protagonist for the second half of the game as Chrom is (I also really love Lucina)

[@TheGameShelf]

I debated this with a few friends and even on the channel's Discord but we concluded that Lucina is more of an Azura/Elincia case where they're a deuteragonist/tritagonist, important to the plot but not exactly the main focus. I still wish to give her some spotlight in the future but if you're curious, I went from being neutral, to hating her for arbitrary reasons to warming up and eventually loving Lucina and that's something I would like to give some depth at some point. She would be somewhere between A and B tiers

[@spacelizbian]

@@TheGameShelf That's fair, I think honestly what sets Lucina apart for me is just that she got into smash before i knew anything about Awakening

[@giadaschnitzel]

I love the fact that the subtitles write corrin as "cory". Cory in da house

[@usvidragonslayer3091]

This tier list of yours is pretty neat. I was a bit mad when you put Celica on D teir but i got over it pretty quick whem you said Celica's Awakening dlc art is prototype Pyra. And also, while you make some pretty good points, you may think Celica is a bad lord but i dont think so. I think Celica is a great lord and you can blame SoV's story for her making trust Jedah. What she did is for Alm and her friends' safety bc he's gonna kill them if she dont. And to be fair, Jedah's evil scheme to save Duma while killing Alm and Celica in the process is doomed to fail anyway.

[@dorcasmutton6335]

There's a lot of subtext to Roy's character that's easy to miss but it makes me really like him as a character. Roy is just a teenager, and the game portrays him that way. He's not a very competent commander or unit on the battlefield by design.

[@swen1208]

Problem is that story in binding blade is basic compared to the other series. Basic story means you get a basic protagonist. I hope a remake would do justice to Roy and add more to the story.

[@AK-ii2vo]

I must be the only FE8 fan who never saw that "special" relationship between Eirika and Ephraim. I mean, Seth exists.

[@ИгорьГорелов-ы4п]

I... Kinda agree about Corrin (even as someone who actually loves Fates and prefers it to for example Awakening), except for design (mostly female), but Corrin in spin-offs? I adore them, suddenly less focus on Corrin gives them a lot of chances to look positively.

[@BoomerMiku]

Drop the shez review now lawl 👍 great vid

[@TheGameShelf]

Honestly I should do a Shez related video at some point or anything, really enjoyed them a ton, they reminded me a lot of Robin minus the inherent bias I have for the latter

[@baguettsksniskwj1603]

DUDEE AL FIN ALGUIEN QUE HABLA ESPAÑOL EN LA COMU DE FE OMG

[@TheGameShelf]

Lo cual es irónico que igual hablé en puro inglés jaja, pero siii amo FE, vienen más vídeos en camino amigo así que espero que los disfrutes cuando salgan

[@Meqqey]

Another Banger video

[@cerve6853]

never played this game but you were super interesting nd i juss subbed

[@TheGameShelf]

Thanks a lot I really mean it! I promise I'll deliver more content of this caliber, you'll see

[@richardgolsmith131]

Xd "Elviejosabroso" best part

[@TheGameShelf]

Desde que lo metieron al Heroes ya no le digo por su verdadero nombre jajaja

[@ghostdog9299]

Nice vid

[@Kakashi10ist]

Have you seen Marth growth stats in strength ? Also you reminded me of another youtuber that makes fire emblem content mainly on February.

[@Neon_arts14]

I love the part: "Ese wey respeta viejas" asdjaklajajldakasjdsa

[@Sonic2891]

Love Edelgard but lowkey insulted that you would put her in a hypothetical triple S tier with Hector, that honor belongs to Ike lol. I would even move her to A tier because I think she's actually the weakest in terms of how much I like her as a character in her own route believe it or not. I like her a lot in verdant wind and silver snow, and love her in azure moon because you literally see how far she's willing to go for her ideals. My biases would put Claude in S tier lol but objectively I can acknowledge the points you made about him.

[@FlowerLuma]

Me encantó el "CÁLLESE WEEEEEEY" en la sección de Sharena.

[@TheGameShelf]

Le dije a mi compa "Gritame como si de verdad estuvieras encabronado"

[@StellarisEmblem]

30:55 I'm stealing this line forever thank you

[@TheGameShelf]

Anytime friend

[@ricardopineda402]

Robino & Robina always in my heart ❤️

[@TheGameShelf]

Love my amnesiac nerds a lot

[@ricardopineda402]

@@TheGameShelf hahaha I couldn't have said it better XD

[@stevenchoza6391]

Where would Shez go on this list?

[@TheGameShelf]

I still haven't played all routes, but Shez is so likable and charismatic that I would put them AT MINIMUM on A-tier

[@Aiboute]

can we consider fjorm a lord? she is in literally every forging bonds and even got a tempest trials series and that beautiful ascendend form. maybe eir, peony, reginn and ash can get this title someday, but i guess fjorm can be considered a lord idk

[@Ray-hx3rm]

I really like Claude as a lord, I agree with your placement, but I’d like to bring up that he reveals in his S support that Claude may be manipulating byleth throughout the entire game, unless he falls in love with the female version. I just kind of like the idea that the player will never really know if he’s manipulating other people or not. Even when Hilda dies in his defense map, he questions why anyone would lay down their life for him, because he’d never do the same. Either way, great list, love the alfonse and alm love too, and you’ve earned yourself a subscriber today.

[@TheGameShelf]

Very thankful for the support friend, makes me very happy to know you really enjoyed the video, I'll keep at it so you can have more content to watch

[@janmarcoperezbatres2203]

I do not think you understood that Hilda death the way most did. Claude does care about his partners. He does use them, but he does not want them to die. If you do Hilda's support with Byleth, she will tell you that she never understood why people would die for others, she thought it was dumb. When she dies protecting Claude, she is doing the exact opposite, and even Claude is shocked that she did not escape to live another day leaving him behind. He expected anyone BUT Hilda to die for him, that is what he meant.

[@greenchickpea9605]

Really nice video! Nice discussion and analysis! I would like to point out one thing though: Claude is such a complex and profound character that it is really difficult to get a complete picture of him: the game cuts part of his story and provides only a few clues about his past and who he really is. I don't think Claude is perfect. Claude had a tragic past just like Edelgard and Dimitri: he grew up in an environment where every day he had to deal with racists nobles who wanted to kill him. He grew up alone. He is now unable to trust anyone around him. He is friendly, easygoing and wants YOUR trust, but HE doesn't trust you unless you develop a deep friendship over a long period of time. "Claude" isn't even his real name (it's Khalid). I see "trusting the other" as part of his development: at first you are nothing more than a pawn to his eyes, a pawn to fulfill his dream (he reveals it himself towards the end of the game if I remember correctly). Now, he wanted to use his pawns in a much more ... "peaceful" way because his goal is similar to Edelgard's but I'm sure he would have used diplomacy or something. But still, from my point of view he's an opportunist: he pretends to be friendly but he's just... "fake". Obviously this is just the negative part of his character and pretty much everything else is, as you said, the "perfect" person, but I think this flaw is big enough (and consistent with his past) to make his character more realistic.

[@josuegavito]

Byleth in B tier due his name starts with a “B” Lol, jokes aside, this is a really nice and fun analysis, the Chrom & Robin analysis makes me want to play Awakening so bad And the Spanglish jokes......”ese wey respeta viejas” “viejo sabroso” “papasote” Uffff 10/10

[@TheGameShelf]

I can't believe I missed such an obvious joke on the video, and yeah you should totally go for Awakening, incredible game

[@negativesymptom1110]

Great video Agree with most placements but disagree with a few Do you have a link to this list btw

[@TheGameShelf]

Oh sure thing, I just updated the video's description with the link to the tier list, check the "Social Media" section, it's at the end

[@TheGameShelf]

Thanks for the watch btw, it means a lot

[@negativesymptom1110]

@@TheGameShelf no problem, thanks a lot

[@HanakkoLove]

The one thing I'll give to Corrin is that in Conquest there is a small amount of development and it's the route Corrin suffers the most (good). The scene where Ryoma kills himself and Corrin has to pretend to be happy about it and act like a robot in front of Garon, just to cry her eyes out after being alone and be conforted by Azura is a legit almost touching moment. Almost. Corrin is still shit

[@orangeslash1667]

the Reason for Fate's sloppy story, is because the writers where trying to achieve too much with not enough time. Intelligent Systems had an idea for Fates to have three stories to appeal to everyone, but they realized that they didn't have enough writers. So they hired an outside writer, Shin Kibayashi was that writer. Nintendo wanted Shin to write the outline for each pathway, what happened instead is that Shin wrote 500 pages for each pathway. Intelligent Systems knew this was too long so they cut the story into pieces without the writers permission and the fact the Nintendo demanded Fates come on the Fire Emblem Anniversary only made things worse. Which resulted in this hilariously mess of a story. The good news this that there is a manga based on Fates that is a little better. Its called Fire Emblem If: the Crown of Niberlung.

[@JCRXV]

How do you feel about Shez?

[@TheGameShelf]

I still don't beat a route, but so far Shez is great! I really love them, they're so down to earth but are also charismatic and even sarcastic at times. Their unique class in ridiculously fun too and I love how they don't have to be the center of attention in everything

[@JCRXV]

@@TheGameShelf it's like if you take Ike and Kris but but take away the "Slurping Marth" aspect and you have someone who knows how to recognize loyalty and stating true to his core job of being a merc. Also man I love the list . You're speaking from your own views and standpoint rather than going off of gameplay alone like most tier listers are doing which is really annoying because they're just being biased . Your point about Kris for example really hits home about their personality of just being a Knight nonstop but you also mentioned that they're a really good unit for an insert at the same time which I standby because I only used him,Marth,Cain,Abel,Frey,and Camus as well along with occasionally Wolf I'm NM . I am a kris fan boy I'll be honest but I fully agree with your points about him. Fully on-board with everything you said . Claude is my personal favorite however . The first lord with some actual diversity for once .

[@valeriedure2341]

i really wish that celica and eirika were treated more like sigurd by the fandom. their naivety and over-adherence to doing things the right way is also punished within the story like sigurd but only they get called stupid :/

[@SweaterPuppys]

Oh thank god a reasonable Fire Emblem opinion without sucking off fates or awakening

[@gvaz9636]

Waaaait because Lyn being “mid” has got be a joke? And Eliwood being S tier??? That’s so wild. Eliwood has got to be the worst lord in that game considering all of his stats are balanced and Almost neutral, leaving him to either taking advantage of “Rapier” or finishing off damaged enemies. Lyn can easily strike 2x from the beginning and has an advantage over Eliwood with high crit and spd stat. And her evolution is better too, considering you can give her a killer bow and she’s a high crit monster with range. Idk just my opinion hahaha

[@rielysolorzano1339]

36:23 To be frank, I'm alright with the placement, but I kinda disagree with the "Byleth is just a block of wood" part. Them being the way they are due to their genetics via Jeralt and Sitri, circumstances of their birth, as well as their weird upbringing as a mercenary is something I am personally fond of. Though I am a bit conflicted on them being mostly silent. Thankful for FEH in that regard. Some of the things they say there are quite nice, especially FByleth's support with Sharena where FByleth goes on how eccentric she is and their stony face on the battlefield, their lack of social norms, and how they don't know the difference between a friend and an ally. Byleth may become a "Professor", but the students they are dealing with allow for Byleth to grow as a human as well. I also love how some of the students will take note of how odd they are, especially when Dimitri says that he initially felt uncomfortable around them, thinking they had no humanity whatsoever. I mean, they were known outside GMM as the "Ashen Demon". Like.. if the students and staff knew about that, would they even let Byleth in? Perhaps the label is best left in the past as it is dehumanizing to them and seemingly makes them uncomfortable via their Hanneman C support? Also...fishing

[@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon]

I agree. I quite like Byleth. Sure, he could've been handled better but I like what we do get. In fact he's actually one of my favorite characters in TH.

[@tomasalberto1135]

EdelGOD

[@hectorlackless]

Wait a mexican creator that likes fire emblem and other nintendo IPs? Ganaste un subscriptor mi conpatriota

[@TheGameShelf]

AAAA NETA MUCHAS GRACIAS POR TU APOYO AMIGO NO TE VAS A ARREPENTIR, y siii jaja, juego una gran variedad de IPs pero Fire Emblem es una de mis favoritas, en varios videos la tengo que referenciar si o si jaja

[@hectorlackless]

@@TheGameShelf Sí, seguro no me arrepiento habiendo visto la lista con mi poderoso tocayo Héctor y mi avatar favorito Robin que igual tiene mucho bias de mi parte, incluso mencionaste a Awakening tiki así que 10/10