What Went Wrong With Alter?? | Apex Legends

What Went Wrong With Alter?? | Apex Legends

[@joyhappiness]

Nothing went wrong with Alter, she's just too technical in a sea of Bangalores, Octanes, Pathfinders, and Horizons who are THE definition of straightforward.

[@maxrosefoxanime7225]

Yea true like to me she is pretty good like her kit has saved me and my team a bunch of times

[@CyrusIsnt]

We at 26 legends too damn near half a lobby 😂

[@ImNotOceanz]

Not really her ult is faulty (when you go down and use it you drop your shield which will get you finished and her Q is Finicky even a slight adjustment can change her port location by a lot kinda like ashes ult

[@ToastedTater420]

Yeah she is in a very similar situation to seer and Newcastle, where their kits are just hard to learn and take time to master so it takes a long time for people to see their true potential.

[@markula382]

Most people cant handle "complicated" these days. Critical thinking has fallen far.

[@BeeBeeBeeLol]

Her Ultimate also just gets completely ignored by teammates because there's no real in your face prompt when you get knocked if u want to port to it immediately.

[@wakajawkakwasimensanduvulu]

Yh it's hard for low skill teamates

[@jesse4193]

there is tho

[@arctictropic1147]

It's a worse version of Rev's totem. I wouldn't doubt that all it needs is to immediately return the knocked teammate back to her ult. The other teammates get notified already that their teammate is down, and then they can return back.

[@user-li1eg8xz7v]

Her alt should only be able to be used by the team that would help a Lil more. Other than that it's legit just a wraith and ash ult

[@ReplyNotificationsMuted]

Skill issue pay attention 🗑🚮🗑

[@Dazs]

She is so underrated and a ton of fun. But she requires so much to get results. Those results are pretty much just "equal" to legends that are easier to master.

[@Shonen4Life]

Alter is basically a support legend idk why she’s a skirmisher her ultimate is a life saver being able to use it while knocked can turn a bad game around and her being able to scan ring consoles is valuable as well she’s a must pick in ranked in my opinion.

[@walkermott1750]

Her tac let's her do hit and run tactics which I think is the point of Skirmisher as a class. If anything she is more of an assault or control legends imo

[@HighShyGuy420]

Definitely not control, that's like saying wraith is a control ​@@walkermott1750

[@CrystalClear5617]

Randoms never use her ultimate

[@meteorjuice4088]

She’s a skirmisher, her tac is insane when used correctly, I’ve made some crazy plays being aggressive or when I need to disappear

[@Lord-Irkalla]

Alter kinda needs comms to work super well. I love playing her but I’ve noticed I can really only make incredible use of her with friends, since I don’t use comms with randoms. She can sort of act as a battle recon with her passive, and her tactical has to have sufficient obstacles to be used, but the value it has is incredible if you know how to play around with it and mess with your opponent. Her ultimate also requires your teammates to USE IT to get value. I can’t tell you how many times my teammates have refused to use my ult when they are separated. They go down or are just running around in the middle of a team fight and they refuse to come back and regroup for a second chance. Sure enemies can follow through but 90% of the time they don’t because that could be the death of you

[@tornadragon4047]

THIS It gets so bad that when I play with Randoms I straight up explain her ult and waste one ult teaching them how it works before we get in trouble just cause so many don't know about it.

[@mxxstro]

Enemies following through are basically the same as them going through a wraith portal, but with a warning on Alters screen. Makes for an even easier retaliation since you can at the very least throw a termite on the portal before they come through.

[@EpicRage_Gamer]

You are the problem with this game! Play a team game with no communication just because it’s random… that’s really stupid. And then it’s really stupid that you and others have the nerve to actually complain about randoms not doing good when, IF YOU USED YOUR MICs, the team would probably win

[@Lord-Irkalla]

@@EpicRage_Gamer Why should I have to talk to random people I won’t ever meet again? Besides that, I don’t even actually care that we don’t win the fights, I care that the communication I do give with pings (particularly pinging my ultimate) is completely ignored. You absolutely do not have to have a mic to coordinate well with a team and I think it’s a little ridiculous to say not using a mic is a problem. The casual player base doesn’t need to optimize their entire experience, they just want a good one. For me, ignorant teammates ruin that. Some players are just bad anyway. A microphone can’t compensate for that.

[@EpicRage_Gamer]

@@Lord-Irkalla you are literally brain dead! Do you realize how low of an IQ you have to be complaining about no team work and then say you don’t have to communicate with randoms 😂😂😂 Maybe dumbest person of the month

[@napsy27]

Alter's at her strongest when she is played in E-District, she has so many more buildings to play around with compared to other maps

[@CharizardLv95]

Agreed I've dropped some fat games with her on district

[@GoldGanymede]

She suffers the same problem as many of the other legends: no movement. She does have repositioning tools, yes. But in reality the only mobility she has is cutting corners in micro rotations, something that pales in comparison to the speed and versatility of a grapple or stim. Her kit is a few buffs away from being consistently useful; consistency being the biggest weakness throughout her kit. Terrain, map, teammates, enemies… there’s no guarantee your abilities will be as effective as other legends. This is coming from someone who loves playing alter. (Alter/rampart/caustic main)

[@zerogotit3373]

Saying alter has no movement lets me know you’re not using her to her full potential lol no shade just saying …

[@GoldGanymede]

@@zerogotit3373 she’s got a superjump movement tech and the ability to cut corners on geometry; I.E. ramps and the like. What more is there?

[@shq_main2853]

@@zerogotit3373 There's a difference between movement and micromovement. While Alter has great close quarters playability, Alter's toolkit doesn't bring things like squad rotations and big repositioning to the table. That's probably why Alter gets overshadowed by other legends, even though Alter is not bad at all.

[@zerogotit3373]

@@shq_main2853 the problem isn’t that alter isn’t good it’s the fact the the apex community is filled with many people who don’t have a brain of their own , they watch the “PRO” players play and try to replicate the same style of game play from pro leagues in pub/ranked lobbies not realizing it’s no where near the same type of gameplay! So the try to copy every “meta” they see from them and if it doesn’t include a character that benefits the style of play in pro league than the casuals follow suit and began to say a character is “Bad” or not good in ranked 💀💀💀 Alter is a very good legend she makes for crazy outplays with her tact and pushes & her Ult is a God teir get out of jail free Card and could save your whole team or even be used as an premeditated rotation tool

[@zerogotit3373]

@@GoldGanymede you have to be arguing with yourself ….. that’s like saying wraith can only phase and do longer superglides with tech …. It’s stilllll movement ….. that’s literally my point she has movement! Like u literally just named a few it’s a difference from knowing how to play a character and knowing how to use them to their full potential if you feel like she doesn’t have “movement” or think she’s bad whatever don’t play her …. Simple she a great character because she also have more than just straightforward movement I’m done responding to bots .

[@geminithelegend]

Alter is often underrated. I've been actively grinding her since last season, and I find it puzzling that she isn't played more frequently.

[@TheErolind]

Coming from someone who solo queued to diamond using Alter only. She is very situational, only good around buildings, and thus only some maps/POIs. Out in the open she does nothing. She’s also hard to use and requires extensive POI knowledge to know where the best portal spots are. That being said she’s elite at resetting fights with her ult and the portal is elite for surprise pushes and movement. And some advanced tech like portal fighting and kidnapping. But that’s it. She’s strong but limited and takes high skill to be good with her. One buff that is needed is a speed boost on exiting portal. This gives her some more movement options and makes her more of a skirmisher, and more fun to play.

[@KaitDiaz47]

Or maybe have the ability to throw Arc Stars, Garnades, and Thermites through portals. That can be cool

[@shaeD96]

I main alter and while I think she has the potential to be to tier there are things that I can see turn players away: 1: her tactical portal depth isn't deep enough and if it's not going to be deep enough we should at least get a perk to double up on telhe tactical 2. People say she require preplanning, they're wrong she requires situational awareness and good knowledge of map layout, e.g. she excels in places w/ multiple and/or condensed buildings with different heights, if you can properly read how someone is going to react to say situation then it's like taking candy from a baby. Like how they'll try to peak out of cover or flank around a certain way, or if theyr running away, basically whenever they're trying to play cat & mouse, no different then pre aiming, you know how they'll react/respond to certain situation. 3. Her ultimate shouldn't require looking at or at least that enemies can't follow through right away

[@XXPryingXX]

As an alter main I think a unique and fun buff would be to include her 1st upgrade to see enemy health by default. And moving her tac cooldown from her 2nd upgrade to her 1st, and add a new 2nd perk to get a second tac charge or maybe a +10 meter tac upgrade

[@drowsydom2283]

I think they should just get rid of or change the ultimate perk where it has infinite duration. it already last so long anyways that I feel that its pointless

[@mxxstro]

10 extra meters is craaaaazy, 20 is already really good for outplays I can't even imagine what 30 would give

[@AlfredoSoraX]

Make the HP and Infinite Duration base kit. Add +5 Meter Depth to the tactical for a blue upgrade and add Another charge for tactical as a purple.

[@spirit_the_cat7624]

In my opinion, Alter is an amazing legend and I want to main her so badly because her abilities are amazing with my playstyle, it's just the randoms I play with have no clue what her Ult. does which really hurts my abilities to make team plays with her ult. I wish there was a perk for her, maybe called "emergency fallback" where after 10 to 20 seconds, your downed teammates would automatically teleport to the fallback as long as it's not in the storm.

[@coyotetina]

I'm an Alter main, don't play ranked cause I'm on console and for the last 3 seasons it's full of legit cheaters and teamers. But she is a friggin riot pub stomping. You just have to be VERY aware of your surroundings, where teams are, where you can enter/exit a room, how to maneuver into a fight unconventionally and possibly throw off (or kidnap) someone to gain an advantage. She's terrifying to fight against, and since I play her by half way through a TDM I've got the entire enemy team focusing on me to get rid of my shenanigans. She's great but people don't think big when playing Alter, nor do they have the ability to visualize the map and unique places to move on it. Also side note, sooo many times the tac being able to steal things from boxes, has denied enemies from batts or meds, gotten me key attachments for my guns to win fights, and saved ammo for endzone. It's a godsend to have her on your team for stuff like that. Esp if you are stuck behind a wall getting shot at an you need meds, just take them from nearby midfight.

[@WeiShihong]

I think it's funny to drop it on stairs when people are running after you on edistrict, it really confuses them when they're downstairs. 😂

[@coyotetina]

@@WeiShihongits also great to drop portal beside a door someone is blocking. That or get your teammate to try an open it or get them to stay there til you put a portal under their feet from below 😂

[@WeiShihong]

@@coyotetina 😂

[@coyotetina]

@@WeiShihong honestly I think the problem is most ppl are incapable of thinking like Alter when playing her. Like Joker basically 😂 where can I come from or go to that’ll really throw a wrench in someones plans or mess with their heads. Not direct approach. Really random and weird movement. Its great to come up with stuff to do with her

[@Aaron_LH]

I feel like her tac is just way too easy to counter. The whole fantasy of her tac should be "suprise!!!" But it's so unbelievably telegraphed and easy to adjust for that it simply can't be

[@hermes_job_observer144]

She will eventually be unlocked as a meta choice within a couple seasons is my guess. When used correctly shes the new Wraith/Old Rev.

[@sokel347]

Imo she's good, just her tactical has two small issues: - it's not off-hand for some reason (you put away your weapon for a sec when u fire it) despite literally using a tail - animation of portal opening on the surface is off a little from the game recognising that there is a portal so sometimes you slam your head into a wall and then teleport

[@philpagan5391]

She needs the pathfinder crosshairs that tells u where he can zip but for her where she can port/tact. Increase the distance on her ult so similar to horizon ult or a little less, use it for aggro plays also defense. If she still bad then they can remove the hand animation she does when using tact and allow her to have weapons in her hand able to shoot hipfire similar what they did with ash, it would make sense bc she uses her tail to make a tact.

[@JackerZGamer_YT]

Ngl alters tactical just gets completely outshines by other skirmishers/movement legends. Her ultimate is really good though

[@SuperLander-nj1sd]

Most of the time, you won't even remember her ultimate is there. Chances are, you'll be too busy trying to stay alive to notice that your teammate has placed a get-out-of-jail-free card because it's not as noticeable as a Wraith or Ash portal

[@SuperLander-nj1sd]

If anything, her tactical is better than her ultimate

[@jeremylim2421]

Yeah the tac has too many conditions that need to be met to be useful mid fight, a wall thin enough to go thru, cannot really be used against enemies to affect them negatively, usually only for self and teammates. Like in this newcastle/bang meta, a horizon is infinitely more useful (and arguably more enjoyable) than alter.

[@iamxman10]

@@SuperLander-nj1sd GET OOUUT🗣🗣

[@J0ninshin0bi]

I just always have a problem using her ultimate. And end up dying..

[@jonc-b8j]

they need to fix the time it takes to activate recall, its also hard to hold knock and take the ult back if your downed. they should make a upgrade that stuns enemies if they take ult after you or something

[@okamithebroken7298]

She doesn't get picked because people are too stupid to learn her versatility. They'd rather just smoke a building as bang or make a random zip.

[@SatanAzerath]

Alter is insane! The STRONGEST legend to play the new map on. The way she can get her whole team to sneak into the enemy's lair... Unlike Revenant who is quick and quiet, but also solo... And her fallback Nexus is honestly THE most useful team oriented gadget in the whole game, in my opinion

[@CharizardLv95]

I run alter all the time. She's still very good especially on E district. People forget she's an instant TP to height for your team. Her ult is also extremely good for regrouping. I am will to bet with a small buff she will skyrocket.

[@Myth-Enjoyer]

Might be a wild opinion, but I think another charge to the ability would be pretty fun. I don't think it would be stupid busted, but it would give her more opportunities to get value.

[@illtyuh8336]

I’d say alters issue is she’s very map dependent, maps with less buildings are def worse for her

[@max-tp1xv]

oh believe me, people will always think certain legends are bad, but I play fuse mad maggie before they are meta and already have the pleasure playing them before people are picking them up. I also play crypto when he's like the bottom tier of the dogwater legends (before the invis and talent tree) because I know how to play his drone well and abuse his instant res. I got quite a lot of clutches and wins playing these legends before they're noticed by the community. alter have so many potential if you simply know the layout of building you play around. i mostly won fights vs other squads easily just because they're holding the door angle and not expecting someone coming straight from the wall behind them. sure, simplicity of a hero is a good point like horizon simply going up and valk flying around, but alter can basically make any walls thats less than 20 meters thick as her shield (travel to the other side) when shes cornered or just simply run away. to add more of that, I can throw nades on the other side of the portal and get free damage if they push me blindly. I also kind of dumbfounded when certain random teammates flame me and ask why I didnt pick 'meta' or support legends. Interestingly, people flame me when I pick valk in the early update of the patch (full ult scan talent) and mock me for playing stupid characters like her. now look at her, she's one of the top picked legends🤣. I actually had to hold myself back a lot because people will tell you things otherwise. sorry if someone had to read this long rant of mine, but this is simply what I experienced when playing non meta legends and alter

[@a-star-1155]

Alter's strength depends on the map, King's Canyon has barely any buildings to make her tactical useful

[@CharizardLv95]

Disagree shes very strong in labs and capacitor, I land there all the time and you can float through the walls/underground there to outplay or bait people

[@aerostrafe1075]

@@CharizardLv95 I dont think what you said takes away from what the poster said. If the circle is not pulling to labs but into open space then you have no tactical.

[@CharizardLv95]

@@aerostrafe1075 wym? Caustic treatment is great, skull town is nice, run off is nice, crash site is nice. People forget she's like horizon you can take height with her too. She's a solid pick on every map but she's outclassed by other skirmishers especially path, rev and horizon

[@aerostrafe1075]

@@CharizardLv95 She is definitely outclassed by other skirmishers. It might just be my games on KC but the circle just keeps ending where I can't do anything with my tactical. You know that area between containment, bunker, and the dead hill area? They just keep ending there where the most I can do is get my team in the first building then out. Her tactical is great in areas you mentioned.

[@telvanniis]

Alter's main problem is that her tactical just feels limiting. The short phase coming out of the tac, the long activation time and cooldown all feel bad - I think they should significantly decrease the amount of time you're in the phase coming out of her portal, and also decrease the amount of time the portal lasts, and decrease the cooldown to give her more opportunities to use it mid fight - it needs more freedom of use.

[@walkermott1750]

Tbf there is like a 50/50 chance it'll instant port you. I think the time in it is important because it gives you a second to see where the enemies are. Remember, they know where you are coming from, you don't know where they are standing

[@pwvincil]

I forced my regular team to learn how to use her ult because it's super helpful. I drop it before a fight and when it gets sour, you port back. Being able to make a door virtually anywhere is incredibly helpful. People just need to use her more. Meta? No. But really helpful.

[@JM-zo5me]

Nothing’s wrong with Alter. “Pro” players just think they know what’s best & are often mistaken.

[@The_RedVIII]

She is one of the coolest designed characters, just in terms of the way she looks and acts. Unfortunately her kid is very unreliable. Yes, her ult can be really good when you use it correctly. But her tactical is way to upredictable, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it works but you don't know where you end up. Also, it takes too long to create a portal. It should be way quicker.

[@SKUNK_FPS_Clips]

She is high skill, that’s why. The floor is really high for her.

[@AEDreamsfx]

I hope people start using her. I loved seeing her used. She could use buffs to her tac and ult though

[@Jidashia]

I do love playing her but stopped doing it when playing with randoms because so many teammates for some reason refuse to engage with her abilities (especially the Ult) and it's just frustrating after a while :l

[@zahrobnik]

Yes

[@joelconolly5574]

She's like Ash. You don't know what her true capabilities is until you really use her. She's balanced too.

[@SwampFire98]

Alter has become my new main. I was a revenant main. But her play style suits me more. I love being sneaky, and she allows for that. Also, to make Alter meta, they should re-class her as support. Her alter and tactical make for great revives.

[@hidingisuseless5569]

She should get her tactical reduced by half or by 10 seconds by default cuz it’s literally just like Valk you can only use her tactical once or twice during a fight before a new team shows up the ult should just tp you when knocked by default and be instant like rev totem since most of the time you’ll get finished before you can even go back and the passive couldddd be better if it could be unlimited ammo that’d be peak especially if you wanna change weapons from a distance or even a perk to let her chose one more item from the rift

[@hidingisuseless5569]

I just really wish she was more crazy/chaotic in game too as seen in her cinematic I was really looking forward to that but she’s just composed and only laughs during her skydive and one quip that’s it

[@walkermott1750]

As someone who has been maining Alter I can say a reason why she is good is that nobody plays her so most squads panic when you walk through a wall. If she was played more she'd the worst legend

[@Rionthelion]

Shes an exciting character but her kit doesn’t match her crazy. Her tac also needs longer range. Idk if it’s just me but sometimes her ult glitches and doesn’t work. Shes definitely underrated though

[@AustinsEdits]

Her tac needs a bit longer range to do some really cool stuff, her ult probably needs some changes, but at the very least her passive should let her grab swaps on a 1 minute cooldown

[@themasterzilla]

Alted needs two chargera of her tactical and a shorter cooldown yoy should not be waiting that long for a situational tact and her passive is great and ult ia underrated

[@sphrcl.]

She's good, just underrated

[@TytheGuy6867]

Exactly!

[@SuperLander-nj1sd]

Nah, people just she her for what she really is. Her tactical is pretty good, admittedly, but her ultimate is mid at best. And I can't even remember her passive. In short, her tactical is pretty much the only thing she has going for her. But there are still better ones out there anyways

[@EeeWoood]

A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON

[@Shakura8]

No need to buff her. She's good. Players just don't know it yet.

[@BlackDragon1035]

More like others got over buffed

[@MH-br3th]

I think if the game had gone in a different direction in terms of new legend design she would be great. Just imagine if the flying legends (Horizon and Valk) had never been introduced into the game. A legend like Alter might even be considered OP when compared to other movement characters. (Side note - Horizon drastically changed the game when she was released and Apex hasn't been the same since then imo.) My preference for movement focuses on two things. I want to either gain height or travel some distance quickly. That's why I play Path. Now he can do a lot but there is some skill involved in proper grappling. Horizon and Valk are just pushing a button and you're off. So is there anything wrong with Alter? Not really. She just gets outclassed and after I played her for a week or two I found myself wanting to go back to Path.

[@YourIntxgrityKat]

i thought that too when i got the 4k 20 and 800+ kills with her, i think the problem with her kit is that there a lot of movement legends that just do a better job than her at being the movement legend, i also think they should increase the range for her q and make it so your ult gets destroyed as soon as all of your teammates use it.

[@ToastedTater420]

She is perfect, I think she is in a very similar spot to seer and Newcastle where there kit is amazing and super underrated but takes skill and technical knowledge to master, which most players aren’t willing to put the time into learning they just want someone they can pick up and do good with so it will take time before someone shows her true potential

[@olegdusov4273]

Newcastle takes skill and technical knowledge? As a newcastle player to pull of a rez you need either braindead opponents with 0 movement or you need to stay so far away that enemies cant interrupt it in time (sniper gaming), or you need a gold knock. You cant play effectively around your own shield in close fights, because ping + ur hitbox is always bigger. I can kill twice as many players on wattson with 0 abilities used just because hitbox is that important in lobbies where I play - every single player in my lobbies has all badges (20k, 4000dmg, 20k solo, or pred, or 3 times master, etc) The only way I can consistently win close fights on newcastle is using grenade+shield shenanigans I've seen some japanese YTber do.

[@ToastedTater420]

@@olegdusov4273 he takes a lot of time and skill to use properly / master, you must just lack the technical skill and knowledge of how to properly play him to his advantage. If you play him to his strong suits and know how to play around the shield right you can 1v3 masters easily. Might just be a skill issue NGL.

[@xCreativeThoughtsx]

One thing to help her…enemy teams can’t use her Ult.

[@Maj1nVeg3ta]

Can't tell you how many times my teammates ignore my ult even when I ping it or call it if they're in trouble. Beyond that Alter seems almost only good on E-District. On THAT map she tears people up. On other maps it's like what am I gonna do? Put a portal through a small rock? She takes a lot of experimentation and map/game knowledge to make her work correctly with the things you can do and stuff you can actually port through. I've found her most useful ability for her is definitely her discount loba ult where I can steal stuff from boxes. Honestly she doesn't feel like a skirmisher though.

[@xdlaggchan9714]

I love alter, her ult is amazing but ppl dont know how to use it. When knocked its so amazing to ult away. Truly unlucky

[@kingoflegends712]

And if the team doesn’t get knocked?

[@walkermott1750]

When knocked it's hard to use because you need to drop your knock shield which just leaves you open to get blasted before the animation to fall back finishes

[@walkermott1750]

@@kingoflegends712 Then you get mad because, like everything else in this game, the button to use it is the reload button and you need to be looking *exactly* dead center of the nexus to get it to even activate. (It should just have a "close enough" mechanic)

[@JesseZamorano1994]

@@walkermott1750yess exactly what I’ve been saying . Like being in the pinch of the situation trying to port quickly and having to look dead center at ult is to much

[@Alexilehio]

She needs to be able to close her portal

[@PartOfTheGame]

Just because that stupid overlay for mech arena made the entire last game annoying to watch, I'm never going to look into it. Talk about an obtrusive ad push.

[@harshmoor2280]

She can be fun to play, but honestly kinda pointless like wraith now a days. Her utility is hard to use when you don't know who's on the other side of the portal, and really never offensive use cause it's not like your gonna get the drop and win a 1v2. If you try to use it to escape well so can the enemy so it's doesn't really help. Same with her ult, by the time you have to use it, so can the enemy, get that 2 second invisible buff, and your probably less health then them. Granted there are some niche cases where being downed and using it while a third party is distracting. Maybe a little ping at the exit portal when it spawns, or maybe being able to drop someone out of the map if I get it underneath them and there no playable area underneath. I'm not saying to make it easy, but maybe make it a little less hard to portal an enemy with her utility. Although now that I think of it, most buildings have a roof or second floor. I wonder how hard it would be to utility above an enemy when you push a building, to force 1 person somewhere else to make the push easier. Granted they can just go back through the portal so the window isn't long, but I wonder if there's a way to make that mechanic work without being too op. Less about porting herself and more about trying to port an enemy. I know people tried it by extracting enemies to the outside, but peaking a door or window, hitting someone with the utility just right to force them elsewhere to engage the push. Or maybe something simple as when an enemy uses the portal the exit facing a random direction? I'm not sure but I think making it harder or a nerf to enemies that use the portal. Or letting her be able to use her utility against enemies more would be a good adjustment for her. At least that's what I got out of playing as her. Not saying she isn't fun to play with, just about every legend is fun to play for me, but I do think those changes would bring her usage up. Maybe a charge to her utility, so just pressing puts you on the other side of the wall and the longer you hold the button the farther it reaches into the room, up to 5 ft or something. That way you can snatch people easier but have to wait longer to use, and also enter rooms at other spots than right at the portal. Idk.

[@Lorexbg]

Alter takes fast thinking , most average apex players cant fast think . And pros and higher skill players always play the meta .

[@IshyFishyDaBestKing]

I can't wait to get a high rank to fight even MORE HORIZONS💀 WHY CAN'T THEY JUST MAKE HER NOT META 🙄

[@amn.brb_]

same for ash, her abilities are cool but not meta

[@あなた以外の誰でもない]

her Q is too random, thats why, sometimes u dont even know where it goes

[@sshyam1995kumar]

Alter can be used by a player who has a good team with good communications on mic. Nowadays pubs are filled with either bots or instant quitters when down. Playing apex at night is not fun at all, all you have to do is kill bots and too you'll be chased by a 100k kills wraith or horizon. Alter is fun to play in tdms controls, you put ult in one of control zone. Even when you got killed after respawning you use ult to go to zone directly. It will be fun. And tac is fun to use in buildings

[@JesseZamorano1994]

One thing I find annoying from her ultimate is having to have crosshairs aimed directly at her port location in order to teleport. There’s time I find myself in a very tough situation and try to quickly leave but my crosshairs are slightly off from looking at her port and I just can’t seem to activate it. Wish there was a specific button to press without looking at port to activate it .

[@oldjebidiahbrown2454]

She takes too much brain power to use, which is alot to ask of a player base that mains mostly braindead legends like Octane and Horizon. I agree that she isn't top tier, but she's still pretty fun and rewarding in the right hands

[@Stolen_Pug420]

She needs second tac charge

[@insidia_music]

Я после твоего большого обучения на альтер начал играть на альтер как на основном персонаже, люди ещё просто недооценивают всю силу данного персонажа в игре а потенциал там очень большой! Спасибо за крутые и информативные видео!

[@AlfredoSoraX]

She was god damn good in Quads. Being able to reset a fight or reposition instantly was so good. I think her skills are good it's just her perks that really hold her back.

[@eruhinmakhtar9162]

Her tac is too situational. If you're fighting in the open, which is an inevitability in some rings, she gets literally zero utility from her tactical. Almost every other legend can get some type of utility from their tactical.

[@moazs.3248]

hairline coming in well dude keep it up :))

[@hermes_job_observer144]

I'm still a Valk main, but i love Alter. Mainly for trolling though. I highly recommend using her portal to trap people in places like Caustic's secret room. They patched the ability to use the doored area to do this, but you can still get in from beneath the room. If your interested in learning the troll or see what subjects, including predators and 3 stacks i was able to capture, check out the "Apex Legends: The Backrooms Experience: Alter Portal Troll" playlist on my channel! Ive got a lot of new vids to add as well, showing new methods of getting in and trapping. It's way more fun than the old Wraith trolls! Peace and Happy Trolling (until they fully patch it 😓).

[@igortolstov487]

I suppose it’s because her abilities are not simple, and take time to master. And in ranked people just go with safe familiar choices

[@thewill-senpai4260]

Hold up, why did crypto's position barely move as he switched rank tabs. Also, I didn't really like alter because her ultimate was confusing to use at the time. I think it's because the enemy can also use the ultimate when a teamate does, and it leaves a portal for them to chase and follow.

[@ilolami5399]

Her kit is basically yoink bats or hammerpoints, a very limited value engage or escape tool (buildings only), another escape tool that has only works early to mid game unless theres 4-5 squads endgame bc of how easy it is to tell when a portal is used.

[@Yuyu13379]

I agree, she is fun. What I like to do on Alter is if I know an enemy is on the other side of cover I place a portal on the cover and it takes them to my side where I shoot them. 😂

[@drahydra]

I've been playing Alter a lot this season, and she is just too situational. She is good at flanking in and around buildings specifically, and even then only sometimes. I will say that she's really strong at punishing mid-fight revives (again, in or around buildings only), and unlike path or octane pushing a corner, she can get back out too. But the praise ends there.

[@AlterMain1]

As someone who's been playing her since release (13k kill) its hard to play her when you don't have communication, she's good for solos or full 3 stacks, but if your solo q'ing she's useless if you cant communicate with how you're using her abilities

[@kingoflegends712]

And most people don’t play legends that heavily rely on their teammates, with the exception of lifeline. Why play Alter if I can pick Rev, Horizon or Pathfinder, it just makes no sense. And if we’re talking about the fun factor, Octane takes that all day

[@Apexskyborn]

Thats crazy you got 13k kills on her 😭 i was hyped im close too 800 😂😂

[@AlterMain1]

@@kingoflegends712 exactly

[@AHappyZeebra]

I think she is strongest in mix tape getting your team back onto the objective/fight. She is more fun for pubs that anything but the team competition is important to have a defensive legend get thru the portal and get damage done. She is fun … but other legends make more sense for ranked/competitive.

[@randem_6503]

Her stuff has a pretty high skill floor, it’s complicated to get a good portal and you really need good comms to capitalise on it, so casual players bounce off her. also I feel like when they removed the combo with crypto ult not hitting you as you push in, all the pros just wrote her off and haven’t tried her again. I could see her coming back like seer did if one team uses her and does well

[@ceohisham4679]

She is situational and her ultimate is straight up garbage

[@sardines7436]

Her ultimate is literally the best part of her kit. She can completely save a lost fight with it if your team uses it well

[@drowsydom2283]

her ult is good but teammates just dont use it is the only problem

[@conradclaassen1214]

One of her strongest abilities being able to close the ult portal after you take it, being nerfed was a huge impact on my playing her less.

[@alvarocattani1323]

That final fuses death was disgusting.

[@sshyam1995kumar]

Respawn should stop making legends instead make maps bigger with more pois and fun pois. New modes can be added permanently. Allow us to create modes and maps just like fortnite. If they atleast allow us to make maps or mode definitely player count will rise

[@drscorpio1094]

Alter is insanely good, the problem is that she’s more situational at times, but theres more times than not Alter as won my gunfights and gotten me very good and easy entry picks to fights because of her ability to boop in and out of a fight on the fly. Not to mention she’s super easy to kidnap an unaware player with

[@calka102]

the thing with her tactical is that you need to know the map, for example in 7:56 you need to search for the depth so you can basically appear in front of that Horizon who was in the run, much farther than the control room but again its precious time, there are some spots in Kings Canyon that her tact is pretty awesome like the stairs that communicate The Cage with Hydro, you can easily get up and down with her tactical. even in the pipes area can teleport to the surface pretty cool for rotating.

[@brass7789]

I honestly don’t understand why she’s not played more. She’s so good and fun. To me at least. She’s just needs walls to be effective. Wide open areas are terrible for her.

[@ovalfps]

She’s really dope but overshadowed by characters that provide easier value. Let alter throw nades through portals

[@aerostrafe1075]

I love Alter but I have a few issues with her. 1. Her portal is too loud and noticeable for the enemy to hear. It is annoying to portal into a building on an off angle but the enemy has the sound plus the indicator for some reason to aim dead at you before you even get through. That is bad design to me. 2. Her ult is good but its just a REV totem with extra steps in an effort to balance something they took out previously. It CAN be good but requires quite a bit of coordination like a Crypto EMP from your teammates but even more so to get a fight reset over a fight win. You also can't easily re-engage after going back so it is mostly for a reset or escape. I dont think people typically find that fun. I'll also beat the dead horse that aiming at it is stupid since i've had friends who just outright hate me playing her because the pixel perfect requirement to use that thing causes situations where they were more likely to get away without wasting time on it. 3. I do think she fits Quads more than trios because you can double up on another movement legend to help with rotations because Alter can't rotate the team. I personally like having Alter, Pathfinder, and a third that isn't a controller legend in trios. Alter touches ring consoles, path on survey beacons, and you have a pretty good aggressive kind of team comp. 4. I think a good buff would be just making the portal quieter and taking that indicator away from the enemy. I would then make the fallback infinite by default, add a button to start it up/remove the pixel perfect need to look at it, and replace the infinite fall back perk with another tac focused perk like two portals so she can really pull off some more plays.

[@mailboxington]

Even with comms it’s still unreliable to get people to use her ult when they get knocked, it’s super frustrating

[@thunder-iy4xy]

Imo her q/ult aren't as punishable to enemys that take her q/ult they can add slowness/shock to enemy's who take her q/ult

[@gi_nattak]

Every time I'm about to pick her, I change my mind because she's so lackluster and I don't wanna burden my squad with her.

[@Hotsoups42]

There’s just too many situations where her kit just doesn’t do anything.

[@ron3940]

I think her ult could be meta once pros figure out how to play around it.

[@km_1911]

There’s literally no reason why you have to lower your knockdown shield when using her ult OR why enemies can also take it. They nerfed her into the ground before she ever even got a chance to play.

[@ON1KUMA]

Vision thread doesn't work on PS5 in performance mode. There isn't a ticket for it I beilive so far, but I have2 friends one of them was about to be Alter main, both have legends with this perk at low of their pick rotation.

[@callsigngraycat4408]

imo she's just not very easy to play with a team. i mean in solos she was a beast, the best legend period. that's why everyone played her back then. but in trios it's just too hard to communicate and coordinate efficiently enough in order to make her useful

[@Anaverageguy41]

Alter gave me my first apex trailer moment so ill always enjoy playing as her

[@lonesome_commie]

Instead of only applying to the golden shotgun bolt they should add reloading all weapons if u use the tactical as part of her kit.

[@phasedout598]

she requires excellent map knowledge and many players just dont care enough to learn that

[@gvanhorssen8176]

The only issue is people dont know how to use her ult even though i call them to tp back when they are low or too much going on but tbh her tactical is also pretty straight forward especially for clutching

[@D98-t5p]

Her tactical is rarely useful in a fight unless in a building. I've played many matches without ever using it. Passive is also a good addition but you can live without it. Her ult is the best thing about her.

[@magnetite9907]

I’ve felt for a while now that Alter should have her ultimate reworked and upgrades adjusted to be a recon legend. I think she could be a really interesting entry frag-type of recon legend if she could give sustained information to teammates the way she gets recon through her tactical. I’ve had some amazing plays with alter’s current kit but shes just not as universally useful as some of the other legends, and a bit more technical, which is less appealing in these meta-crutching times

[@wkndwarrior4733]

I think the kit is really good with comms or an assembled squad. She is powerful when everyone uses for ports/ult as you showed. I honestly do not enjoy her personality. I’ve been playing solely Valk this season. Love the recon perks and so good to have her movement back. When you get used to her, all the grounded legends seem so grounded lol. Perviously a bang main

[@EpicRage_Gamer]

Alter is a low pick because her ultimate is great, but yet sucks! You can only be a certain distance from it for it to work, AND you must look at it for it to also work which in many situations when you get knocked, you can’t face it or your body is exposed to easy death, and then there is no shield as well when trying to use the remote. That’s the problem with her.

[@sensu_lato3531]

She's not bad she's just got MOBA like abilities that nobody's playing off of.

[@lilian9725]

The fact that you have to watched her ultimate to use it, why.....

[@tommykang6483]

i dont like how it alerts enemies when using her tact