Apex Legends Season 23 Tier List - Best & Worst Legends Compared

[@Thegamingmerchant]

oops! i missed Horizon somehow! She's in B tier in my list, and she's a great counter to the shield meta

[@brandonsantana5981]

For some reason i cant make my own comment so i have to reply Imo the old wraith phase is horrible and idk how she was ever good. Sure it was instant, but it also made you run slower, so its horrible for repositioning

[@Mystagun-21652]

Did i miss something? is this a team oriented tier list because if not, this tier list sucks, how is Horizon lower then Rampart. Already makes the list invalid but it's your vid so GGs i guess

[@sebastiantruelsen1100]

@@brandonsantana5981 the old phase saved u mid fight, while now u can only reposition when u have cover to play around or the enemy team is further away. So yeah i would say it's worse.

[@LetterNumber]

They *butchered* Crypto this season. can't destroy Gibby, Newcastle tacticals w ult anymore, drone takes ring damage(and everyone can craft banners now) and the invis perk now sends out an SOS smoke signal

[@bmx28kenilworth]

Yeah it really sucks.

[@bmx28kenilworth]

He needs invisibility at the very least. He is now completely vulnerable while in his drone. Like he used to be. The way I think it could be balanced is maybe if you looks at a crypto that’s invisible for a period of time, they will start to shimmer/glow. Cause some people don’t have $200 headphones. But he needs another buff past that at this point.

[@MrWeissenHerz]

or give him offensive kit like auto pilot drone near him and following him scan near enemies.

[@righteousnesscheck]

The drone dying to storm is unnecessary. As a crypto main going invisible is mid to me, I’ll take the 25 percent emp cool down every time

[@lionljb]

and it makes no sense at all, Gibby dome is maybe protected by itself, but lifeline doc and newcastle shield are both exposed electronic devices

[@Karina-s8w5z]

Good video Good editing.

[@noahgettheark]

Every time I have alter's ult active, my teammates won't use it, expecting me to wipe a whole squad myself and revive them. I'll literally have it at a safe distance, hidden, they'll be down, but absolutely REFUSE to go to it. I cant tell you how much that pisses me off.

[@titosusva]

F, but btw, you have time to revive 1 teammate and a half before the enemies get to you with your portal, so keep that in mind, if you want to play alter you should have a caustic or wattson protecting your ult, in case they chase you.

[@gokuljosh1186]

What no one is talking about is doc drone following you on zip, even evac tower.

[@_dashyy]

follows you while skydiving too. it's nuts.

[@GooberKing02]

I think Loba should get a passive or talent upgrade called “friendship bracelet” that lets you attach a bracelet on to a downed teammate and when you use your tactical they teleport as well; could give her a unique way to reset fights that fits her character.

[@Kadukunahaluu]

I was literally just thinking about that. All the support legends have abilities or revive-specific skills that give teammates protection during/after they are revived, but Loba doesn't have any. Even Wattson is more valuable with a gold knock than Loba and she isn't even support

[@luvenpelagius1072]

The buff I wanted for a couple of years now is kinda similar to your suggestion. Loba can throw her bracelet and just let it land without forcing her to teleport. She cannot shoot while her bracelet has landed somewhere, she can however interact with the world: loot deathboxes, open doors, pick up loot, etc. This would fit her thief lore. She can also begin the revive animation and press teleport to TP both her and the downed teammate to safety.

[@frvshprinc3170]

Hell nah to op

[@_dashyy]

@@luvenpelagius1072 i like it but it's a bit too similar to alter's ult but even better. OPs suggestion is great though!

[@maxipad9480]

My boi mirage did not deserve that petty roast in the end 😭

[@thekvng201]

@@maxipad9480 he's getting a buff soon hope it is as good as the other supports because he is my main and he is falling behind the others.

[@toastfairy5546]

Straight violation 😭

[@archie.archer]

Like I really don’t get it, a few seconds of invis is better then nothing (like when u are ressed by Loba) 😭😭😭

[@Mx.Sublimina]

NAH CAUSE I ACTUALLY JUMPED LIKE BRUHHHH- He didnt deserve that

[@thiagosilvarodri7193]

Poor Mirage, trash legend for 23 seasons

[@nicohansen1196]

Summary: F tier Seer D Tier Wraith Mirage C tier Alter Octance Ballistic Caustic Crypto B tier Bloodhound Horizon Catalyst Vantage Loba A tier Valkyrie Ash Fuse Bangalore Wattson Rampart Conduit Mad Maggie Revanant Gibraltar S tier Lifeline Pathfinder Newcastle

[@Mr.Slaught4r]

Can the community stop acting like skirmisher and skirmishers are a good class, I'm an Octane main and boy is most of the cast due for some buffs, like just path is actually good and Valk became a better character just by switching classes. Skirmisher gets the worst passive, it's ok but when every other class has 2-3 now it really sets stage for power creep, I sure do love stabbing myself and still being outsped by like 1/4th of the cast

[@yahootube90]

Skirmisher category was basically where they decided to dump the not competitive "pub legends"

[@titosusva]

imo knocking the weapons of the carepackage is insane, as you said specially for path because he can use zips to get there and recharge it scanning the carepackage, they should give the ult recharge for scanning to all skirmisher legends i think. 50% ult per scan same as path.

[@ghernandez909909]

S tier is everyone is Support

[@imtotallynotparker]

Not mirage 😔😢

[@imtotallynotparker]

Not mirage 😔😢

[@berkeokur99]

Respawn said it themselves, this season is the season of support

[@Alexander-js8kd]

Since support class can get double effects on cells and syringes, I think the healing while running part should go to the skirmisher class, hence the name “skirmishers”

[@jannikveh6654]

The problem with maggie is that most damage done by her drill can be negated by one cell from a support now

[@carlosh9476]

True… though it can still be enough to stop health regen on revived players behind cover

[@jannikveh6654]

@carlosh9476 good point

[@titosusva]

@@carlosh9476 thats how she should play, drill only when they are low and healing or reviving, not to start the fight which most people (me included used to do, i barely play her)

[@CallMeBlurzz]

Didn’t even mention horizon 😭

[@Freakstreet]

good she belongs lost in space and time forever

[@rasheedgardiner2390]

I'm really tired of the Octane neglect. The entire skirmisher class really needs some love... a better class perk to begin with. They have no fancy bins, no game changing scans/info, and little to no team contribution. At this point give them Conduits movement passive or free redeploy balloons so we can at least feel like they have a rewarding class perk.

[@AfroSynergy]

Very good ideas honestly

[@vladgabrielmatei9128]

The skirmisher class sure but not the characters in it What horizon needs is some major nerfs so the pansies who play her know what it feels like to be at the bottom of the food chain for once

[@justinjohnson3615]

These are actually really good ideas

[@warrencooper8155]

Maby Octane Receives 40 HP Over Shield when hitting pad and teammates get 25 HP

[@JT-km6th]

They have movement which in itself is OP

[@DARKSN0VV]

Id say you are undervaluing ballistics viability. With my squad I've been able to get to diamond with him. Having infinite ammo is amazing! Having his ult mean you can win a war on attrition against other teams either they run out of bullets or healing but you get to poke as much as you want. Also, faster reloads and movements speed for the whole team is super great for going ham onto people and the tactical has won me more fights than i can count. That being said there are some caveats: 1) Hes not that great for solo queue since taking advantage of the ultimate wont happen as often. 2) His ultimate has more value the more hopups are around. I would always carry either an alternator or havoc in the sling for the disruptor or turbo charger on command. Right now the viable option is the rampage since it will give you the gun shield and a termite in one go.

[@Ardentuss]

Pretty sure they removed turbocharger from havoc since last half of the previous season so even if it was in the extra weapon slot you can’t get the hop up off ult. But I agree with everything else

[@CPT_Frostie]

Wraith being a D tier is wild

[@Redhood878]

It’s honestly understandable she’s useless in rank there are plenty of legends that could reposition way faster and better

[@JamesslashTry]

Wraith is garbage no passive and that tactical is garbage you just get chased after a crazy wind up

[@dargoid]

I can accept the crypto invis nerf, but at least remove the drone tick and make his purple perk can destroy all objects. It's the turtling triple dome meta now with newcastle gibby and lifeline.

[@sb18wlc]

Overcompensating on the nerfs again lol... The best thing EMP had before was it destroys deployables now it can't even do that, I don't see the reason why they had to do that. The only problematic thing about crypto before was the true invisibility, now they even added a nerf on the drone going to the ring for some reason.

[@rumplestiltskin3441]

@@sb18wlc I think respawn is trying to remove hard countering from the game because it really diminishes the effectiveness and consistency of a legends abilities. Kind of like how they removed thermal scopes from the game as they were hard counters to Bangalore. They have also removed scan legends abilities to like see through Bangalore smoke. Hard counters are difficult to balance because changing one legend effects many others. It seems they are trying to remove those interactions so balancing a legends more rely on the synergy between the team and less about how it hurts other teams abilities. Personally if they are going to remove is ability to counter these walls and shields (which is fine and I get why) then they needed to add something else. Like maybe his EMP take all shields away and causes a slow effect if you try to shield back up

[@GroggyWalrus]

I am glad that this wasn't just 'Alter is trash'. I have been having fun with her and as you get used to the tac and when/where it has value you start seeing the potential. You do need to be REALLY aware when using it and I don't recommend blind ambushes. There are a lot of times you can get behind a team or avoid a gate keep with it. Ult is as described helps bring ppl together. Key is don't sit on it. It's useless when not deployed. Be proactive with it.

[@BrysenBurg]

I agree she is fun to use, although I feel like sometimes my teammates don’t understand that they can use my port in an emergency. I place it safely before a fight just in case we need to reset. When it works, it’s great. But I solo queue so randoms don’t always follow suit. I think she’ll get a better rep if more ppl try her out and understand her kit

[@DGDR123]

Glad to see fellow Alters out there in the abyss 💯

[@VoidBeLike]

​@@BrysenBurg I did so many sick plays with her nexus even solo. Baiting people in is so satisfying and sometimes saved the whole game. Almost never follow into a nexus unless you know the person has no mates left, even then it's hella risky

[@yahootube90]

She's easily one of the most "fun" legends. But most of the time "fun" also means not very competitive in the meta.

[@XXPryingXX]

Loba is basically a skirmisher legend. You could put her in there and it makes more sense than support, seeing what’s in packages sounds like something loba would do the loot goblin she is,

[@rumplestiltskin3441]

I could see them moving her out of support. It seems like they are really trying to make is class super definitive from each other. Loba doesn't fit in the support class anymore.

[@TrueCryptical]

Seer had the hardest falloff. He wasn't just nerfed, he was killed.

[@bestboy34]

Og legends brings back nostalgia 😭 Tbh this is the best season in a while cause of that

[@casey997]

OG apex was so unbalanced

[@MudkipsAreEpicWin]

There is 0 reason to play anything that isn't pathfinder or a support legend. I want to know who at respawn thought these changes were a good idea. Faster revive speed, faster heal speed, full hp regen for free off revive that doesnf get canceled by ring damage, small heals heal for double for supports only, free bag space, perfect shields, good mobility...this game is done for man i just wanted better servers.

[@_dashyy]

does the revive regen not get canceled by ring damage??

[@Thegamingmerchant]

try Maggie, fuse, ash, or rampart - they all massively counter the supports and it's super fun!

[@titosusva]

@@Thegamingmerchant rampart not really neither fuse that much after they made unbreakable newcastle tactical, rampart is good but against everything but some can counter her, newcastle, maggie, fuse, gibby, lifeline with ult, all of those can counter rampart because some attack her and some prevent her of killing his teammates or themselfs if she dont push. But i still play rampart when im tired of losing games, she is so op on the right hands

[@iownstaticz8687]

I really hate how they designed rev, like ever since his rework his ult is just a target for nerfs idk what they were thinking adding over-shield his tac is fun for movement but i wish his ult wasnt reworked the way it was

[@_PrinceVentura_]

Same. I much preferred his old ult and the secret Naruto animation it had

[@domonkosrevay9423]

The new one still has it​@@_PrinceVentura_

[@LucasWarn-u8w]

Blud just forgot horizon

[@XXPryingXX]

Alter just needs quality of life changes honestly Get rid of the “too far” and just put the portal wherever it can that’s closest to the point Make her ult activate with a single tap (at least when you’re down) basically a weaker old rev ult (basically a useful reset tool)

[@mechaflood2247]

And make her rift an off hand ability

[@marwanboudanga]

Ballistic keeps being under valued. In every tier list, everyone since he is good for 1 v 1 and not against a team, but always forgets that he can now get 2 tac charges from his perk, meaning he can affect 2/3 of a team in a fight and that can make a big difference! Even using one tac in a team fight can turn the fight in your favour. The slingshot perk is also neglected in tier lists... as being able to obtain hammerpoint once you reach purple evo is HUGE! Not many teams will have hammerpoints, so it's an advantage. And what to say about the ultimate... not just infinite ammo, but also fast reload speed and movement speed not just to you, but your entire team! Which gives you that slight advantage in a 3 v 3. I would personally put him in high B or low A I think.

[@NightX15]

People also don't seem to know that if you put a p20 or mozam in your sling, you get instant dual weild, which makes for great cqc pushes with your team, especially after popping ult.

[@marwanboudanga]

@@NightX15 That as well! Getting double mozam or p-20 instantly is also advantageous!

[@Eclipzity_Eclipse]

'yOu'VE bEEn SpOTTed' made me laugh ngl

[@wigwagwook6883]

Great video! Amazing breakdown and editing.

[@corvax8644]

I actually like Maggie ball not destroying gibby bubble more. Yeet it inside and everyone gets bounced out and stunned while you pick them off

[@rivaire21]

u do realize maggie's ult is so fckin unstabble right? throw it inside dome, most of the time it get stuck in a spot while doing nothing, sometimes even dissapear instantly, which is why the best way to use her ult especially if u pick the burning ball is to throw it 20-50m before enganging the enemy so u won't get hit, your entire teammates get speed boost, while also the balls can build up enough momentum for the thermite explosions to trigger on hitting enemy so the burning balls not being a useless perks, it won't burns enemy instantly on hit if not used like this

[@casey997]

​@@rivaire21 but that doesn't stop you from throwing it inside the bubble

[@mechaflood2247]

You are picking nobody off because you're also hit by the ball. That is the primary reason her ball isn't reliable

[@rivaire21]

@@casey997 no but if u actually read what i said, most of the times it becomes unreliable, EXTREMELY UNRELIABLE when u doing that, since there's NO GUARANTEE that her ball even would takes effect properly at all when u use it that way it's waaay safer to just pull up your shotgun & just shoot

[@rivaire21]

@@mechaflood2247 nah, it's not only that, it has been interacting weirdly with barrier type ability, in case u really didn't know rampart wall, & newcastle shield already unbreakable by her ult since like forever, also if you're throwing it inside your teammate gibby's dome, it has the same effect as the thing i mentioned before, now enemy gibby's dome is unbreakable, the unstabbility increased, also lifeline now have dome too, not to mention her ball also still sometimes stucks in place when breaking doors also newcastle & watson ult zapps it like it was never exist too

[@kennyobrienaiti]

Mirage is so underrated

[@carterfn5939]

I’m a loba main so it doesn’t affect me but crazy how skirmisher got no love. Tbh even before this patch I thought support had the most love. Skirmishers really need a new passive that’s as broken as the recent support stuff and I think it should revolved around movement speed. Maybe double time after shield crack or anything movement speed related like that

[@Igarron]

A mistake on Newcastle, the shield regen doesn't work on downed players. It's after they get revived. So it takes a little longer

[@titosusva]

the thing with ballistic as i mentioned in the stream, is that you try to force a 1v1 win it super easily with his tactical, use the tactical when you have to, not too early neither too late, just when you are about to shoot, and ofc the ult if possible, and let me tell you, ballistic ult 3rd gun slot is for p2020 or mozam mainly, because they gain the juicy hammerpoint, combining that with the 50 hp damage from the tactical and the 1 sec stun to the enemy from the tactical after he shot a few rounds and if you dont miss he is dead, and your teammates gain reload speed and infinite ammo for their nemesis, etc imagine 3 nemesis with infinite ammo shooting at max fire rate and up close akimbo mozam or p20 hammerpoint (you only need to grab 1 to be akimbo, so early game you can have akimbo with grey attachments). OFC the problem is that he lacks on mobility and dont have any protection ability unlike rampart who has her walls and sheila which melts enemies, I was playing solo Q with newcastle and was a horror, cannot help teammates that suicide in front of the enemy without even knocking or letting 1 shot someone, that also dont cover nothing, they are what people used to call, brain rotted people, I mean, its fine, i cannot expect my teammate to be nearly as good as me nor better, not even preds are better I dont get it, they should be better but I played with and against (I repeat, as a solo Q) a lot of preds these season and they seems to be boosted or bought the acc, no joke, im serious, most of them only know how to third party on the right moment and some not even that. Warning: my experience below dont have to read if you dont care. I usually never third party or at least not that tryhard to wait till they finish and the second after start the fight and kill them, I dont practice those dirty strategies, I just have fun playing normally but when the games are against me I pull out rampart with sheila and make them pray so survive (I will also mention im not pro or I dont consider myself pro for 2 main factors, I play casually, a few hours or less from time to time, not even every day, and with a few I mean from 1 to 5 at most, generally 1 to 2 hours, and because I dont tryhard the games at least to that point, I mean, I want to win and I try to win but while having fun, pushing some fights I shouldnt push, etc and well, maybe another thing about that, I dont try to loot, swap, move, etc super fast, just fast but dont practice those things neither want to, Im like TGM but sometimes shoot better, sometimes think better (as if I where the igl) but we are kinda in a same lvl.

[@slimygoon9993]

I enjoy what’s they’re doing to make the support class feel more supportive.. but I feel like they gave them way to much all at once.. you could literally run a comp of just support legends (lifeline, conduit and Newcastle for example) and it’s going to be the hardest team to wipe.

[@livingproof504]

I disagree with the mirage placement he’s easily s teir but A tier now because of health bar as a mirage main he makes comebacks quick and easy if you think mirage is bad it’s a skill issue

[@KuriEra]

4k kills mirage here, my only issue with him is his tactical, its so bad and boring without ult and mid at best with purple perks

[@rhayy]

did the volt get a rate of fire buff? i'm noticing it shooting faster than before. or they changed the sound?

[@NightX15]

No changes in the patch notes about it. Could just be the audio.

[@kudohlol9379]

over buffed supports. Wraith need love, make Q faster again, if not instant. Ballistic ult give him a damage bufff? Emp should break all this garbage. Mirage is good :) best duelist support char lol Maybe Octane remove stim damage perks doubled, if you invest 2 points in it, no damage penalty?

[@neemzer7968]

do a weapon tier list please 🙏🏻

[@shalindelta7]

I don't understand why people need other people to tell them what to use. Everyone is different with each gun and only you know what works for you.

[@princeofficiall7244]

Ngl loba should be at minimum A tier with this new support perks, gold knock basically, gold armor, u can keep ur team alive loot wise and res, being able to keep a position in ranked and have unlimited loot while holding that position is beautiful.

[@Lee-22]

You should do a team-comp tier list for ranked, and taking map rotations into consideration

[@louduzit]

Use Alter’s ult as a fallback for pushes. Like revenant.

[@onemotivated]

I’m a fan of both LL and Newcastle and I honestly think LL has a slight edge on NC, she can fully reset her team so much easier than NC, not to mention she can heal mid fight. I had a Bangalore teammate get hit to 10 hp twice in a fight yesterday and the drone stayed attached to her long enough to heal her to 100 twice

[@Corey414]

Newcastle has more cover and he's more well rounded

[@Dboii17]

Bringing backs seer stop revive abilty rn actually makes alot of sence and would make him instanly viable

[@CalfOnTheRun]

You missed the most important part about greedy snare. The actual flying tactical and the one that hits the wall are treated as 2 separate entities (so they can each hit once). Basically means you can start a fight with a free 40 shield damage if you can aim it (sometimes on multiple people)

[@mechaflood2247]

That feels like a bug that will most likely be fixed mid-season

[@FluffedUpMaverick]

I'm currently 8k kills on Alter and welp. She needs blue perk that buffs her tac depth. There would be so many cool rotations. Her ult welp... it's dogsht most of the time. There's no value in fights. Only useful if you have premades 1. Because randoms are never using Nexus 2. It can be useful for your teammate that is holding off angle. He can always come back to his team.

[@panther_boii214]

I CANT believe how high my mains are Rampart/Vantage😂 this is the highest Ive ever seen Rampart in my apex life. Love Rampart shes been my main since I started in S11

[@noslccp6140]

haven't played since season 17. never expected a newcastle meta..

[@Herculean88]

Great vid nice advice

[@jayman071410]

Awesome Tier list! Keep it up! Also you said Loba was the first support but you said Mirage first

[@gabrielink1709]

All my favourite legends are bad now 💀 Wild

[@awubberduckie482]

F tier alter is just downright insane!😭

[@xiidioiix7782]

It’s sad, but she’s so utterly useless man 😭

[@Dead-Eyed-Man]

But, he placed her in C ? Idk if you just missed that or if this is some type of joke, sorry if it is.

[@BrysenBurg]

@@Dead-Eyed-ManI think they were talking about the thumbnail bud. I was lost at first too but the thumbnail has an “F Tier” over Alters picture

[@ToastedTater420]

I see her like Newcastle and seer, where their kit is extremely good, but takes a lot of time and effort to get good with. So it takes someone to show their true potential before other people start playing her

[@suiyri_doma7132]

@@ToastedTater420I agree. She is very good for aggressive plays, especially in buildings. She is very good for pushing and retreating if necessary. She is also good for getting loot when u r a solo. Her tac is good in any fight if there is objects or buildings and good for poking and catching people off guard. She sucks in open field if u don’t have her ult already placed which is the main problem of her. This is my opinion but I feel like reducing her tac cooldown for a bit, make the tac portal depth more and make it where you can control the placement of where the portal tp you would make her a bit strong ig. She is fun tho, I manage to get the 20 bomb with her on solo mode on the second day of the season

[@mrkyle1522]

They should just buff all the other classes to make them fall more in line with support being crazy op

[@idoavivi1307]

Full list anywhere?

[@morgan624_]

I really like Mirage, especially at the beginning of Apex. I will accept him even if he is going to be reworked completely

[@wrathwalker4593]

I know one thing that's F tier, it's the UI when you start taking shield damage

[@monika278bly]

The game's gonna be interesting now with the support meta and banner crafting changes.

[@TheN2pster]

They go godlike with support class and thanos level with new castle, might as well give octane unlimited stem without health draw and see how it goes:D

[@Antimonious]

I LOVE the new support meta. As a competitive battle royale, it NEEDED this

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Heal meta is not a strategy a br needs ever

[@Antimonious]

@ Actually, that’s EXACTLY what’s needed to keep this genre alive. Otherwise, people quit and move on to other games

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

@Antimonious you're lying to yourself if you believe that

[@Antimonious]

@@eekajmoneybaby9309 I quit past 2 seasons for the first time ever. Been season 0 player. It’s gets old spending a ton of time & effort just to get 3rded, 4th, and 5th with no chance to reset. Numbers don’t like, the players are on a steady decline

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

@@Antimonious the decline isn't because we're missing a heal meta like fortnight it because cheaters are ruining the game massively. No one wants to support a game where cheaters run rampant while the producers try to rake in 5x the cash while not trying to fix the issue. The number of times they've said oh we'll fix that issue then nothing happens or it gets worse somehow. Ppl will come back for a week realize the security still crap and leave as usual.

[@mostafakhalel5479]

Why won't Apex make a more engaging lobby where I can go to open places, stores, i can see other people and talk to them. Maybe add more borderlands style gameplay to attract more players.

[@shinobi7184]

Maggie is gonna important to run with lifeline shields and castle walls

[@DookiePox]

Alter is a fun Pubs Legend! That's cool, there's no Pubs right now...

[@GenesiisDavid]

Bruh that conduit speed perk is nuts.

[@Gonourakuto]

Ash tractical with the greedy perk doesnt redo damage , it can only do 1 instance of damage per target during its life time , targets do get slowed for as long as they stay in the trap radius tho even after the tether is gone

[@tanakaminato96]

We got GOATS meta in Apex before GTA6... Gibby/LL and newcastle is so stupid fun

[@TtS890]

Vantage really doesn't feel as good as everyone is saying she is. I played with a Vantage as a trio and the Vantage player never feels like he has an impact in the game. No scans and a playstyle that can ve replicated with a sniper on another legend. He always does damage but it never feels like it matters since its never in a fight and doesn't add anything to a team that another legend with a sniper can't. Granted he is not a good Vantage player, i don't even think he's an average Vantage player but I think my point still stands

[@victime4360]

Trash legend that’s always far away from the fight and needs lucky shots to do some dmg

[@dalastuchiha4287]

Gibby is the Bangalore of Supports. People are sleeping on him.

[@charlesedwards7992]

Wait a min... Lifeline with Gibraltar might be a great team..... I don't think Gibraltar ULT hurts your team....slows them down but not hurt.... might have to try this

[@kylegibson5933]

OG is apparently bad but main game is in shambles.

[@ifereokibe9146]

I find wraith to be better now than in og. After trying her a couple of times can't see the hype. She can instant face sure but her movement was much slower. Her ult speed is slow and her Q covers a very short distance compared to now.

[@ProperXSmoke]

Ballistic is mad underrated.

[@brok3njays470]

Nah Balistic is so good can’t count the amount of times where because of my ult it saved me and my teammates when we were out of ammo late game

[@gorbihabla5682]

imagine if they buff wattsons ult, like 30m around her ult, u r getting stunned 1 sec per tick.

[@silverragecx]

Rev needs such a rework , His ult sucks now since it regens on knocks instead of instantly like before, at this point I don't mind if they mixed it with his old ult, My idea would be where they made it to where he places a shadow on activation and he keeps that over shield state ( don't mind it being reverted back to 75 shield) But when he "dies" in that form he gets sent back to the shadow he placed, atleast making use of his tactical of wanting to push fights and still having an ult to do so as currently. 😅 idk my boy dead

[@StacheBoi]

I do like this meta honestly, Newcastle deserves it lol hes a cool champ imo

[@sashamakeev7547]

Low key Crypto should not have highlight and healthbar shown when aimed at.

[@tomwilkinson7879]

No way you put ash above valk?? Valk has movement, scan, range attack/stun and can re position the entire squad with wall hacks. Don’t know why people sleep on valk especially for ranked

[@xAsiago]

are we just gonna ignore how on vantage he got up against lil fredson enoch and keon???

[@TheRealOnee12]

They need to buff my mate caustics. More gas damage so it starts at 10 and goes up to 20

[@Caustickle]

Caustic deserves to be an S-tier legend.

[@あなた以外の誰でもない]

support legends are literally broken this season

[@Nasty_Pixels]

I loved then caustic gass had slow. Never cared about dmg, but slowed ppl easy shots for flatline or pk 😅

[@tailboi23]

12:37 first legend in the tier list. Poor mirage. Edit: Mirage was the first in the tier list.

[@staymadgummybeef8078]

It's alright, he hasn't played seer this season, ngl I played seer a few times this season and idk he just seems very meta and he's balanced you aim down with your gun and it highlights enemies, you can see where people are and their health and his ultimate shows you people in it so you know where to go and how to plan out your next move so you won't get surprise attacked actually no don't play seer I'm gatekeeping

[@astrostasis6928]

Just use the tier list template that everyone uses

[@amaristephen3535]

Ballistic you just need a sniper or marksman as a secondary and re45 or lstar or any lmg tbh in the sling. And just be smarter with the smart pistol lol. If you shoot left right or up you can get more out of it as it shoots out and then curves when you don’t fire it straight. And when in fights up close that you can’t lock onto ppl as well just shoot it at the ground and get ppl and can set ppl up when they walk through doors or use it to hold angles etc just have to be more creative with him

[@amaristephen3535]

Shotguns and Mozambique in sling is fire too if you have 1 pistol you automatically get akimbo

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

Seer should get his heal cancel again simply because of the supports being this good. I don't personally believe they're suddenly S tier because of the heal buffs but it's definitely something to keep in mind

[@BrysenBurg]

Ahh, even the playing field a little bit. I like that

[@xneutralgodx]

Then why did they remove EMP and Maggie ball counter during a support meta?

[@eekajmoneybaby9309]

@xneutralgodx to make it more apparent that supports are op again. It makes no sense to remove it at all and needs to be reverted asap. That was one of Maggie 1st buffs that made her decent was that anti tank down.

[@RichCinema]

Hope they fix badges, I missed out on 3k for a legend I never play.

[@lilian9725]

No one…no one on this planet….me playing Catalyst 😭😭

[@arif8967]

Freaking new castle man. Oh man. I would say its almost messed up as seer meta.

[@thesketchartist6328]

I little generous with your rampart placement

[@thatguydonny4504]

2:44 damn u didn't have to do mirage like that

[@EliZeusYT]

Alter is one of the best legends , but people aren't smart enough to use it

[@victime4360]

You need 150 iq every fight to do something useful. Even if you can do it it’s exhausting

[@EliZeusYT]

@victime4360 skill issue

[@marclucid8884]

This was EA and Respawn final chance an They failed still... What a Failure of gaming Corp..

[@Madsdross]

bro Fu**ing annihilated mirage 😂😭

[@fulgurobaboon1321]

So people still say guibby instead of jibby in 2024 ?

[@Shadow_Hunter_X]

Listing Wraith as D tier, Oh no!! Anyway*still being a wraith main from season 2*

[@donnadiore2356]

It just his opinion … relax

[@JefferyCharlesNighswander]

Octane should be in F tier.

[@SamuelFrempong-qw7cn]

mirage's decoys have health bars now???!!

[@emegoat]

crpyto at C tier is a warcrime.

[@wigwagwook6883]

@Thegamingmerchant what about Horizon? 😂😂 did she just disappear?