The Historic Downfall of Star Wars on Disney+

[@blueharvest77]

Something no one talks abaout, making people wait 2 years or more between seasons is a huge mistake. The show looses any momentium it's built up.

[@Captain_Griff]

Yeah, that is annoying, I get it if it's 1 year but 2 or more years is just annoying

[@marcelinovazquez5128]

It's worst when the cast is composed of kids you can clearly tell it's been more than a year since the last season. Just look at Stranger Things the kids do not look the age they say they are and that was problem in Season 3 which was before COVID. This concerns me for Skeleton Crew.

[@scottn2046]

It's kind of hilarious that there's a boom in recap videos on KZbin, because it's now pretty much standard that by the time we get the next series, we've forgotten 75% at least what happened in the previous series .... option there for the GoldMan by the way .....Recap videos for Andor S1 and Ashoka S1, even Skeleton Crew while it's fresh if you're willing to gamble on renewal.

[@KhilitSavla25]

@@marcelinovazquez5128 I don't think Skeleton Crew will get a second season even if it's a success.

[@stretchmonster]

No one talks about? Literally everyone talks about waiting 2 years or more between seasons.

[@shamanahaboolist]

I genuinely think Star Wars episode 9 is one of the worst written films ever made

[@gamewriteeye769]

When you have “Somehow, Palpatine returned…”, you know none of what follows warrants its existence. The sequel trilogy seriously needs to be retconned out of the canon.

[@shamanahaboolist]

@@gamewriteeye769 I won't pay attention to anything Star Wars in the Skywalker timeline/era till it is. The only Star Wars thing that isn't dead to me is the Old Republic era.

[@gamewriteeye769]

@@shamanahaboolist Same. I'm hoping they use the World Between Worlds to divert events into two timelines based on one climactic event coming in the later story of the Mandoverse. One where the sequel trilogy can exist as its own thing, and the new thing where they can retcon and fix the problems with the canon to do what's right. Filoni could make things work… Edit: I haven't played Knights of The Old Republic, but I know bits and pieces that make it interesting. I heard there are Star Wars projects that will tackle this era and before it of Star Wars in some news though.

[@shamanahaboolist]

@@gamewriteeye769 KOTOR is the best written Star Wars out there. I can't compare it to Andor because I refuse to watch anything more from that canon.

[@gamewriteeye769]

@@shamanahaboolist I haven't seen Andor, so I can't draw the comparison there, but I fully agree KOTOR adds the most to the Star Wars mythos and has some of the best writing in terms of fleshing out the world of Star Wars beyond the Skywalker Saga. I can't think of anything else other than the Thrawn trilogy of books by Timothy Zhawn in Legends coming close to that level of writing.

[@joelolsson8201]

This is exactly what we need: one premium TV show like Andor, one low-stakes but super fun show like Skeleton Crew, and one long-running animated series set in an unexplored era (in the TV/movie space) like the Old Republic or High Republic. This would be a winning formula for Disney+

[@smbmnguni356]

Excellent take/suggestion!

[@falconeshield]

I remember when everyone was talking about the baby yoda show. It felt like the Xena days again. Good times.

[@kamillavalter]

Agree

[@juanjosedelatorre7644]

Too late, I dont care for any of that. Give me a good movie trilogy first.

[@tagus100]

Mando Season 1 felt grounded and realistic as it was small stakes. A Space Western with a bounty hunter protagonist. Now, he's playing second fiddle to Bo-Katan and is entwined with events larger than himself. He’s a pivotal character in events moving forward, rather than doing his own thing and reacting to the events.

[@kdusel1991]

The Mandalorian was never about Bo-Katan anyway.

[@tagus100]

@ I’m saying it was. That with season 3, they pulled a bait-and-switch.

[@wickdaline8668]

Season 1 and 2 must have been flukes in the system. Andor season 1, too.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@tagus100 I don't see it that way

[@remogaming791]

one of the saddest downfalls I’ve watched in real time

[@aohdan5713]

Ahsoka was not a joy to watch for those who’ve seen the other shows, she was basically a different character entirely.

[@dancingdragon3]

I blame the transition from Animation to live action. Real people can’t capture that fast movement style. They seem lethargic and emotionless by comparison.

[@brandonsamano7428]

@@dancingdragon3 That's a writting problem

[@matthewthompson4618]

I'm not excusing the writing because it did have flaws, but I did enjoy the show and tbh she was early 30s when we last saw her in Rebels, and late 40s in the live action shows. People can change a lot in ~15 years (and become lethargic if they fail to save their former master).

[@Basisreallycool]

​@@dancingdragon3 Her fight with Maul in the clone wars was done with mo cap in real life...

[@firestarter000001]

For me it was just mediocre. Most things were meh in this show. Admiral Thrawn was a genious strategist in the books, and you loved it becuase he was acting smart and there were interesting proofs of his acumen. In the show, lets face it, he is an idiot that has to plead the nightsisters constantly to fix his mistakes. Sabine is insuferable, selfish cahracter, which makes mistake after mistake out of selfishness but everybody seems to still think she is so special and great. The concept of the force is pretty much destroyed, it seems now anyone can become a jedi, if you really really want it and clench your buttocks hard enough, you will become a froce sensitive and jedi. I get it that they went with "wise master" with Ahsoka, but it didnt work. For me what defined Ahsoka in the prev shows was full of life.rebelious character with a bit of an atavistic hunter. Here she is a void of a person.

[@mon_arkYT]

It's truly insane what has happened to Star Wars over the last several years. We haven't had a movie in 6 years and it will be 7 by the time we get one, the brand has been a streaming exclusive for those years, and they've seemingly destroyed the brand enough to the point were people don't even want to give it a chance anymore. The shows have continued to go down in ratings and the online conversation surrounding the brand isn't even about the shows and their stories anymore. All I see anyone talking about is how washed Star Wars is now. It hurts me to say, because I've been a Star Wars fan my entire life, but I'm pretty much completely apathetic towards the brand at this point. I've lost so much of the interest and passion that I once had. I'm the only one of my friends that still watches the shows. Most everyone I know checked out after Kenobi and Book of Boba Fett. I hate to sound like a broken record because I know there have been more than enough people saying this, but leadership desperately needs to change at Lucasfilm. Disney's handling of Star Wars needs to be studied in business school and used as an example of what not to do when you aquire the most massive IP/fanbase on the planet. I will never understand how we went from seeing the most hype the brand has ever seen when they started the sequel trilogy and announced all their plans, to it's last two TV shows getting virtually no viewership. If they somehow fuck up The Mandalorian movie after taking a 7 year break, I don't see a direct future for Star Wars.

[@owangejewice]

They're just squeezing the last bits of blood out of this stone. Andor and Mandalorian were the only things they did that gained them any traction so they're gonna double down on those but it won't work. Andor was lightning in a bottle, they won't get that lucky again. Mandalorian had three seasons and was completely put of gas by the end, negative reviews abound and they had to bring in Luke to keep the last few viewers watching. It's over and they just don't know it yet.

[@Quet723]

That shit hurts been a fan since I can remember I haven’t watched anything Star Wars related since s7 of Clone wars 😢

[@loganschlepp5903]

The best thing Disney has done is bring back TCW season 7…. And they only did that to promote the Mandalorian

[@kdusel1991]

​@@loganschlepp5903 you're forgetting about Andor. And Skeleton Crew is pretty good.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@loganschlepp5903 you're forgetting about Andor. Andor is the best thing to come out of star wars in a long time.

[@Cheattoe]

You can’t save something that doesn’t know it’s in danger

[@evok993]

Anyway, I'd better save a Capibara than Disney 😌

[@neilhannan5112]

This joke aged like fine wine from Smiling Friends What's going on? Why don't they like it we spend 250 million dollars on this

[@hristol7537]

They should really stop making these small shows and make Star Wars the way it was meant to be: a cinematic epic. Invent new characters and storylines, stop trying to make everything so obsessed with the past. Hire a competent director wanting to make a great space epic. Look how successful Dune was and learn from it. Unfortunately, Disney are only interested in making a product.

[@DavidDAderperMC]

That could be said for a lot of franchises these days

[@jacobk6371]

In the nicest way, I don’t think you hit the essential issues with modern Star Wars. It’s not about TV vs movie being a solution. The stories themselves are tired, redundant, poorly acted, and poorly conceived. Character have become nonsensical power trips instead of PEOPLE. Leadership needs to be fully replaced and so do the writing teams.

[@claytonrios1]

Skeleton Crew really is a decent show but I think people got so angry about The Acolyte that it turned them off of Star Wars for a while hence why Skeleton Crew is flopping hard in the Nielsen charts.

[@ahorsewithnoname773]

Unfortunately. Skeleton Crew is great, but I think serious damage has been done to the Star Wars IP that is leading to people just not giving it a chance.

[@claytonrios1]

@ahorsewithnoname773 Yeah. After The Acolyte I don't blame anybody for quitting the franchise for good.

[@MooseLord.]

This is me to a tee. From what I'd heard I totally wrote off Acolyte and don't plan to ever watch it. Threw on Skeleton Crew haphazardly the other day to distract the kid and ended up finishing it myself after bedtime.

[@davidbarry282]

@@MooseLord.you should give the acolyte a shot, it’s surprisingly good, and that’s from a very long term fan, like saw the originals in theatres, anything’s better than the Xmas special and the ewok spin off movies

[@bloomins8088]

Good to know that Skeleton Crew is actually good. My bf wanted to skip so I've never put it on (we like to watch star wars together), but maybe I can convince him. :)

[@TideV2]

Disney has killed the Star Wars fan base. Boba Fett show disappointed fans, Kenobi show angered fans, Acolyte finished off any remaining fans. It’s sad bc by all accounts Skeleton Crew is a good enough show but people are too tired of being let down.

[@lukeluke333lukeluke]

Apathy is really the death of Star Wars. Been a fan for 30 years but nothing excites me any more. I'm sure Skeleton Crew is decent to good but I just can't care any more...

[@AbdelAbdallasPage]

Everyone seems to be forgetting why Disney went TV heavy for Star Wars. Episode 8 was rough and therefore not many people watched Solo. The low numbers watching Solo caused the Boba and Obi-Wan movies to become TV shows - which means filler that diluted their stories. My belief is that the direction of Star Wars stems from the issues that spawn from episode 8 over anything else

[@boredomkiller99]

Pretty much my belief It is clear that when Disney acquired Star Wars they did so because back then Star Wars printed money. Even though it was over a decade since the prequels, any Star Wars books, comics, show or game was going to sell The issue is Disney basically ruined it with very poor planning on the movies that they banked on being a money farm so they needed a new way to turn the IP into a cash cow and with how well Mandalorian did they decided to expand that which missed the whole point why it was good. Let's not get started on the games with really only the Jedi Fallen/Survivor doing well enough to make a series, which while extremely good are limited as it is very likely the next one will conclude the story

[@nickkrasny1562]

Hard agree with you. TLJ really is the magic bullet that killed Star Wars.

[@jamesarnold7253]

People who think that episode 8 caused Solo to be unpopular seem to forget that episode 9 did better than episode 2. Solo would have been more successful if they stuck with star wars at Christmas and didn't put it in the cinema at the same time as avengers and deadpool. That was the major mistake they made

[@jljl5449]

If you keep insulting your customers, you cant be surprised when you no longer have customers

[@thegoldman25]

When did Lucasfilm insult their customers

[@richlynch9068]

I’ve been arguing for years that the mandoverse is actually one anthology show and if it was organized more like the clone wars most of the weird structure issues would vanish. Book of Boba Fett fits in way better as an arc in a season that includes some stories about Mando and some stories about Ashoka. Hell Kenobi would even work in a series like that and you wouldn’t be stuck with 8 episode seasons anymore.

[@simpletown323]

You just put into words something I've been feeling but couldn't put my finger on

[@richlynch9068]

@ It’s the core way that Filoni learned how to make Star Wars and I wouldn’t be surprised at all to find out that a show like Book of Boba was its own show specifically because of nonsensical corporate mandates and business people being sneaky with money. From what I heard everyone working on it thought it was Mando Season 3 while it was being filmed

[@MEBoisv]

I agree about the Mandoverse stuff. Obi-Wan should have been a movie.

[@richlynch9068]

@@MEBoisv Ideally I agree but in the context of what we have now this is a change that could realistically happen. I do wonder if Disney could ever be convinced to re-edit Kenobi into a movie perhaps justified as a special cut for theaters but I don’t think many of the issues of that series would actually be resolved in a movie without extensive reshoots that are highly unlikely

[@MEBoisv]

@@richlynch9068 I would prefer it edited into a movie, but yes that wouldn't really fix what's holds the show back.

[@noelv1976]

All we wanted was a farewell tour of the OG characters. Never in our mind would we have thought they would kill off Han, kill off Luke, sideline Leia, relegate Chewy as non character, then bring back the emperor just so he can be killed again by undeserving character.

[@MEBoisv]

15:30 Another key difference with the MCU, Marvel never stopped making movies. When they started making Disney+ shows they kept making movies. So they've been able to put stories in the medium that best suits them. They don't always get it right, e.g. Eternals should have been a show and Secret Invasion probably should have been a movie, but they aren't forcing everything into one medium. I wish Star Wars was still making movies alongside their shows, and I wish Obi-Wan had been a movie. That doesn't mean they need to commit to a movie every year, but they limited themselves when they announced a hiatus.

[@pablocasas5906]

I always thought that Disney backed off their plans to make Star Wars movies due to the failure of Solo and the "underperformance" of The Rise of Skywalker. I guess execs at Disney thought Star Wars could have been bigger than the MCU, but SW isn't as big in certain markets as it is in the U.S., not to mention that they don't have a story for a movie planned out I'm pretty sure that even if shows like The Book of Boba Fett, Ashoka and The Acolyte were released as movies, even if there wasn't a pandemic, they would probably underperformed, perhaps execs at Disney thought they would have been better successes as streaming shows

[@danielbrown9368]

Until Captain Marvel the movies did not actively suck. Thats the difference.

[@clubkid13]

You’re not gonna get multiple seasons of skeleton crew due to the cataclysmic failure that was the acolyte. It caused the skeleton crew to have the lowest viewership of any Star Wars product to date. The acolyte pretty much put the final nail in Star Wars coffin.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

A more accurate title would be the rise & fall of Disney+’s Star Wars shows.

[@poitles]

I was waiting for more than just Star Wars 😅

[@bailey03]

What else is there on disney+ except marvel? Maybe its just me but I dont really know a lot of original other shows on there. Old movies yes and they are fun to watch but else than that?

[@RoyThomas-c7h]

yeah the video title is incredibly misleading

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@bailey03 we’ve had Simpsons shorts, Disney+ shows on animated shows made by Pixar, and some live action Disney+ shows like a Muppets series or a High School Musical reboot.

[@marijnderuiter7316]

What they should do is: 1.) Scrap the sequel trilogy 2.) Re-cast (post ROTJ) Luke, Han and Leia 3.) Make a Luke Skywalker show 4.) Make a New Republic show (with Leia, Han, Mon Mothma etc)

[@buttscarlton1490]

Recast 3 of the most iconic characters in cinema? Yeah, how could that go wrong? I'm surprised you don't have an executive job at Disney already with a brilliant idea like that

[@majorharlock5304]

NO

[@BP-dn9nv]

The first one won't happen under the current leadership. That would be the same as them admitting they did a bad job, and I doubt the people in charge can swallow enough pride for it.

[@Lexipumpkin783]

​@@majorharlock5304 Not even a fan of Luke but we need a show with Luke, and adventures he did during the comics, would also be nice if we could get mara jade.

[@AbdelAbdallasPage]

I hard disagree on the Tales Of series. They might have started with 'larger' characters which probably deserved more time but I can see it becoming the perfect medium to tell stories that focus on smaller characters

[@mattmiller7700]

Exactly. Not every story needs four episodes to tell.

[@afunkymonke]

Its not like the CW has done multiple shows being tied together for years, or the boys having a spin off show that ties together with its plot for the new season.

[@dancingdragon3]

FR, say what you will about CW quality, but The Arrowverse was a logistical miracle for life long DC fans. Up through Crisis anyway.

[@iitbn4197]

I like the skeleton crew

[@WheeledHamster]

It was written by a child, the kids getting mad at each other for no reasons, sometime you'd expected something cool to happens then it gets played out for a cheap comedic moments, I was angry as hell watching episode 5 and 6.

[@brandonjordan4596]

It's good. Despite it being a smaller "low stakes" story, it looks so good and makes the Galaxy feel big.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@brandonjordan4596 I really like it!

[@Dankergold]

@@WheeledHamsterBro got furious after he saw a comment that was five words long

[@RoscoeWasHere]

@@WheeledHamster Oh no! Kids getting mad at each other? Like KIDS? In a show with KIDS in it? Boy, really crazy opinion you have there.

[@VespasianOfTheThird]

I watched Clone wars and Rebels and Ahsoka was absolutely NOT a joy to watch.

[@charlesjmouse]

A pretty straitforward story of foolish greed, hubris, and... evil intent. -Streaming has proven not to be the golden goose many thought -Disney has produced a stream of expensive effluent that doesn't pass as content, let alone shows -It turns out the evil mouse really is evil, and that has thankfully put off a great many people

[@WolfPirateSkull]

I stopped watching the movies after episode 8 and I gave up on star wars after Obi-Wan tried to smuggle Leia out of prison under his coat

[@Zood94]

0:31 Hmm... Let’s see. As a Star Wars fan who used to watch the original trilogy over and over every year before Disney came along, I’ve only watched 5 of these and hated 2 of them. The rest? I’m not even interested in starting. It’s not burnout-it just doesn’t feel the same. I still watch Clone Wars repeatedly and love it. Disney’s Star Wars just doesn’t feel magical or interesting anymore to me.

[@bgoode2376]

I think you’re just not a Star Wars fan if you’re no longer interested

[@bgoode2376]

Anymore

[@thegreenbaron6439]

What went wrong? Disney buying Star Wars in 2012, that’s where it went wrong

[@MEBoisv]

8:14 I have told several people that Skeleton Crew is a self contained story, for which you don't need to have seen anything (except I guess the original 1977 movie), and they've been pleasantly surprised. My sister said, "Oh wow really? I'll check it out then." Again I think you're right. Disney really did set the precedent that in order to understand their shows you have to have seen a ton of Star Wars content, more than the average viewer.

[@BalletStrong-cl6cb]

After the Acolyte finished, I had never been so uninterested in Star Wars for months. The acolyte killed my interest for Star Wars. It took me watching Skeleton Crew just as it was finishing for me to start to climb back up, but even after that, the damage from the Acolyte is still there

[@Daniel__Nobre]

They diluted the IP too much out of a)pure greed and b) absolute lack of quality top leadership. The movies had no proper planning and focused too much on screwing up fans (aka their customers..) just to prop up a couple of leadership people’s egos. There is also two important elements for the growing failure, despite not as relevant as the two above: Timeline mess - most people can’t remember where these shows fit in the timeline. It’s all such a mess. Weak scripts - SW was never about amazing deep movies, but the story was not dumb or insultingly stupid. The total disrespect the people directing and producing the movies and shows display for their audience is clear - they think we are all stupid and that the IP is “just wizards and lazuur swooordz in space, nerd!” And therefore even if the audience is indeed not stupid, the showrunners clearly wish or believe they should be.. No wonder its failing. The soul has been completely extracted and killed, all in the name of things the audiences don’t care. No passion exists in it anymore. There’s no clear vision. No story that comes from mythology and therefore that speaks to the depths of our minds and what means to be human. Disney may have done the unthinkable. They may have killed the IP that everyone thought was not possible to kill ever.

[@dragon9slayer250]

I agree with your point on the Ahsoka show, they really had to put more flash back scenes for the most important scenes to understand what’s going on. Show a flashback to Ezra defeating Thrawn, Ahsoka leaving the order, and Ahsoka fight Vader, etc. At least then the general audience would see why Ahsoka is acting the way she is and will get a general overview of who these characters are.

[@jaxsonburch-eo1vz]

It’s just bad writing. Ahsoka has major writing problems. And the portrayal of Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka is not good. I grew up watching the clone wars show and I’ve watched all of it and a lot of rebels. It’s not the same person. Her performance is stiff and lacks emotion.

[@firestarter000001]

Eh i would say its just a minor thing, the main problem was it was just a mediocre show. Most things were meh in this show. Admiral Thrawn was a genious strategist in the books, and you loved it becuase he was acting smart and there were interesting proofs of his acumen. In the show, lets face it, he is an idiot that has to plead the nightsisters constantly to fix his mistakes. Sabine is insuferable, selfish cahracter, which makes mistake after mistake out of selfishness but everybody seems to still think she is so special and great. The concept of the force is pretty much destroyed, it seems now anyone can become a jedi, if you really really want it and clench your buttocks hard enough, you will become a froce sensitive and jedi. I get it that they went with "wise master" with Ahsoka, but it didnt work. For me what defined Ahsoka in the prev shows was full of life.rebelious character with a bit of an atavistic hunter. Here she is a void of a person.

[@fiktivhistoriker345]

In Ahsoka the actors were mostly standing and talking, arms crossed. That looks cheap. I can think of an excuse for Thrawn, that he was under the spell of the sisters who wanted to use him as a cheap transport to their homeworld.

[@evok993]

Flashbacks wouldn't save bad characters writing and bad story telling 🫤

[@jayvansickle7607]

Totally agree with Deepfake…. Just let us accept that the characters look different. We accept that in comics, and cartoons.

[@gabzi27]

All of the TV show episode counts have been too short. TV shows need at least 16 episodes to cook. I miss the 22-24 episode seasons of cable tv. 8-12 episode runs doesn't give enough time for the character to have a clear arc while also having an exciting plot. Having such a short episode count means that every minute matters so when they do slow down to try and have character beats everyone claims that it was a waste of time.

[@buttscarlton1490]

If that's your cup of tea stick to CW shows and sitcoms. Premium cable TV shows have never gone over 16 episodes. Idk what you're smoking but I could use some

[@rienjen]

I appreciate your optimism, but there is nothing Lucasfilm can do now to course correct. While i agree with a lot of the analysis here, it's not just about making a story drag too long or the story feeling too "small" in scale like the Kenobi series. I can give you about two dozen reasons that series didn't work--between major inconsistencies in Force abilities, major inconsistencies with characters, failed character arcs...heck, Reva's story made NO SENSE--and that's just off the top of my head. People don't trust Lucasfilm or that a SW series or movie will be worth watching.

[@KrazyKlinician96]

As a fan of CW and Rebels I'm glad they continued the story in live action with Ashoka, rather than go the typical Disney route of rebooting the whole story in live-action. I do think Ashoka could have used a decent live-action recap to give new views something to follow. But I'll take Ashoka over Netflix's The Last Airbender anyday. Dave Filoni sacrificed the approval of the masses to continue HIS story reward HIS fans. ....It bit him in the ass, but I personally felt respected. The Rebels story NEEDED to continue and the shift from animation to live-action worked for me.

[@kdusel1991]

I like that Filoni is the Kevin Feige of Star Wars along with Favreau!

[@AgeOfRamp]

@@kdusel1991Filoni is the second worst part of Disney Star Wars

[@WaltWalnuts]

Growing up is realizing that Filoni is a hack.

[@ArcRogerr]

As a diehard Clone Wars and Revels fan, Ahsoka was absolutely NOT a joy to watch.

[@thearchivist250]

It’s not surprising that the best Disney Star Wars are focused on brand new or very minor characters. They generally do not respect the legacy of the older characters or work out original stories that make sense. They just slap on a coat of nostalgia and expect everyone to come running. Contrast what Peter Jackson and his team did when entrusted with Lord of the Rings. They constantly read the books for meaning and guidance. Star Wars has mountains of Legacy to pull from that Disney ignored.

[@gildor8866]

I get the feeling whenever they are dealing with an established legacy character they try to build a story around that character and fail. Shows with new characters are actually shows where they started with a story and then build characters to fit the story. And they tend to succeed with the later, with the exception of the acolyte.

[@TheSmackShow]

It’s still baffling how a mega company like Disney could flop one of the biggest American entertainment brands like Star Wars.

[@TheJ2Collector]

The only thing Disney didn’t ruin were the Muppets besides ending Muppet Vision 3D

[@anticitizenokapi6348]

The Mando/Grogu movie doing a Solo and loosing money would probably one of the final nails in the coffin for Disney. Every new show on D+ has less and less engagement. People are burnt out with Star Wars and don't care anymore, they moved onto other things/returned to the EU. It has been driven to the point of inedibility.

[@wydowmaker4729]

This video overlooked or chose to ignore other glaring, and I would argue, bigger issues as to why Disney Star Wars has failed (I think we are way past the "is failing" phase). 1) Awful storytelling. These shows were boring, derivative (if not straight up theft), and unimaginative. They often made little sense and had enormous plot holes. They regularly chose pushing agendas over stories that made sense or that people even wanted to see. They were collections of scenes with little connective tissue that mattered. 2) Lack of any sort of character development. These characters were flat and uninteresting. Many were either nothing but flaws with no redeeming qualities or perfect with no flaws. None of them had arcs. They were exactly the same at the beginning of the shows as they were at the end. Again, boring and uninteresting. 3) Abuse of or complete ignoring of canon. Canon matters. It is the reason people are invested in a universe to begin with. If you choose to retcon, alter, stretch, or ignore that canon, why should anyone care about your new canon? If you make canon meaningless, you make your own creation meaningless as well. 4) Failure to give fans what they want. Despite the prevailing Disney opinion (and that of its shills), fans are not that hard to please. The formula for what will make them happy is pretty easy. Do not marginalize the thing they are fans of by messing with canon. Respect their heroes. Do not insult them, repeatedly. Write interesting stories (or you know, adapt any of the hundreds of incredible stories that have already been written that you chose, in your infinite wisdom to discard in order to not have to pay those creators). 5) And finally, lack of anything resembling fun. These shows had absolutely no heart and no fun in them. They were either boring and uninteresting or obviously only written to push a point of view or provide some sort of therapy for their creators. When you force the real world into your shows, it destroys the magic and world building. No one wants to watch a show that is supposed to be a fantastical space opera set in an obvious fictional universe that is so blatantly filled with references to and allegory for some perceived injustice or political or social point of view. I am sure there are 10 other reasons as well. I am just tired of writing. Disney Star Wars has failed for lots of reasons. Too many to save it. They should sell it while it still has any value at all.

[@Andrew-sy6on]

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but keep Filoni away from the live action side of Star Wars. He is the main reason the shows took a turn for the worse. He’s too obsessed with bringing back characters he created. Mando season 3, Book of Boba Fett and Ahsoka are prime examples. Those were his shows. Obiwan was supposed to be a movie till Disney forced Kennedy into turning it into a series. The only (2) series that she was involved in were “Andor” which is phenomenal, and “Acolyte” which was crap, and the reason Acolyte went to shit is because she believed she was hiring the creator of “Russian Doll”; the problem is, having worked on “Russian Doll”, Natasha Lyonne was the main creator, and Hedlund kind of lucked into it. Filoni & Favreau seem wholly afraid of expanding the universe. Kennedy coming from movies; seems more willing to grow. I loved Rogue One and the Last Jedi, (Solo isn’t awful) and would have loved to see where the series went if Disney didn’t step in and force her to make a lot of really bad decisions, like rise of skywalker’s massive course correction, and canceling the obiwan and boba fett films.

[@thegoldman25]

i actually agree. He was good as an advisor on Mando, but his stuff with animation was so good

[@CallMeFVLL]

The only thing I disagree with is the need for the original trio to be present in new media. If anything, I'm absolutely burned out with anything Skywalker... it's a galaxy far far away but we're always bumping into the same small group?!?

[@thegoldman25]

It’s no so much the original trio needs to be in new media, it’s that stories where the original trio would be present are not going to be present

[@CallMeFVLL]

@thegoldman25 ahhh, gotcha. At this point we'd still need a pattern of good, consistency. I hate to say that I no longer have any will to indulge in Star Wars media anymore...in fact, it's more entertaining watching and listening to the critiques of you and my other favorite channels. Y'all have more passion and integrity than the billion dollar company constantly feeding us mediocrity.😅

[@MarsVee123]

The only way to fix Star Wars is through a hostile takeover or, to a lesser degree, a James Gunn-style approach where he essentially said, 'Yeah, I know you love the Snyderverse, but it’s not canon anymore, and we’re rebooting everything.' At least with Disney’s Star Wars, it isn’t as beloved as Zack Snyder and the Snyderverse, so it should face slightly less backlash. You’d have to remove everything Disney created from the current canon and place it in the Legends category, keeping only the OT (Original Trilogy) and the Prequels as canon. Maybe you throw in The Mandalorian, The Clone Wars, Rogue One, and Andor as a gesture of goodwill, but everything else must go! Before any of that, though, you’d need to clean house and fire anyone who isn’t directly involved in animation, visual effects, sound design, etc. That includes the story group, Dave Filoni, Pablo Hidalgo, and others. They’d have to go before anything else could happen! I'd create a new Episodes 7, 8, and 9, utilizing advancements in CGI, AI, and deepfake technology to bring back Han, Luke, Leia, and Lando. It wouldn’t be set 40 years later like The Force Awakens. My trilogy would take place between 3 and 5 years after Return of the Jedi. By the time we reach the timeline of The Force Awakens (32 years later) with Rey, Finn, Kylo, and Poe (none of whom I’d include in my universe), we’d already be on Star Wars Episode XVI (16) Characters like Luke, Leia, Han, Jaina, Jacen and Ben Skywalker would be present. Anakin Solo would not, due to his earlier death. This time period would focus on generational transition, with the Solo twins and Ben taking on major roles, while Luke and Leia provide mentorship and guidance.

[@cookiemonster2385]

It takes 22 minutes to say “they decanonized the EU and hired people more interested in telling fan fic rather than the authors and creators who had done it for years?”

[@diegoagudelo]

You lost me at "Ahsoka is a joy to watch". It is not

[@Captain_Griff]

Disney+ was not worth it for me, I cancelled my subscription a year ago after the bad batch ended because it was a bit too costly ( maybe that's a problem in Romania, maybe) and because other than Star Wars I didn't watch anything else and it was not worth it anymore, I had to spend my money wisely and for me Netflix has more stuff for me , I still keep up with Star Wars, good video mate

[@afunnyname1604]

This is %100 what star wars needs to do, just tone it down. I just think the animated show should fall between episode 8 & 9 where we get to see the characters actually form a relationship

[@jryannorton]

Skeleton Crew also feels like a good movie that was stretched thin into a weekly series 🙁

[@fliplife67]

The simple answer ever!!!! KK thought she knew SW better than George.

[@Deathlygunn]

Can I make a small change to 'Fix Number 4?' Do a Clone Wars-esque animated show about Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie, Lando, and Wedge during the time of the Mandoverse - that way these characters can be involved with the war against Thrawn without having to rely on deepfakes - and the showrunner can come up with some reason why our heroes wouldn't be there on the frontline fighting alongside Ahsoka and Mano in the film. Couple that with if they could get Mark Hamill involved voicing Luke, you might be able to get the attention of OT Star Wars fans who aren't normally interested in animated content.

[@MichaRoded]

I had exactly the same idea

[@Kstamper]

People telling me I had to watch the Boba fett show to watch mandalorian season 3 is where I gave up on the show. I hate these connected universes where I have to watch something I don't want to watch to understand the show I like. Thank God for Andor not doing that.

[@thegoldman25]

I don’t blame you!

[@user-my2nm5wv1e]

​@@thegoldman25 idiot rey mary sue even george lucas say that

[@user-my2nm5wv1e]

​@@thegoldman25 kid

[@nathanchun4880]

19:31 an animated show that connects the sequel trilogy is Star Wars Resistance but two episodes were cut before they finished the second season

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

Bold you to assume you could save Star Wars.

[@thegoldman25]

it is bold, but i think i could do it

[@FreaknJedi]

Fix #1: If you can't defeat Sam Witwer in a basic SW based trivia contest, you can't produce, direct or write a single scene.

[@jamesarnold7253]

Andor is awesome and Gilroy is not really a fan of star wars. A Abrams is a huge fan and episode 9 wasn't very good

[@calvinfishermedia]

Really interesting video man! I appreciate you breaking down why Disney’s current approach just doesn’t work. Some of the decisions, like having Mando’s story continue in Boba Fett, just boggle my mind.

[@snookerdooker471]

7:34 This is one of the biggest reasons why I don’t like the ahsoka show another is how they butchered Sabine and ahsoka they also kinda ruined thrawn and Ezra since Ezra and thrawn were in like the last 3 episodes.

[@max_kirchi_fca]

Completely on board with everything you said in the video, even with the Sequel Trilogy animated series. I would also add the long-term series about the Old Republic, which according to rumors is currently in the works. If we had this and Skeleton Crew running permanently (alternating seasons of the series every year), in the long run we would have 3 big series projects + limited series that are allowed to tell whatever they want to tell.

[@ohwellwhatevernevermind4590]

Ahsoka was a bad show lol, no "mixed" reception

[@benjaminglazer7217]

Wow. This is the greatest critique of Disney Star Wars I’ve seen. It doesn’t feel like whining or bigoted. It’s a well thought out argument and I’m impressed.

[@firecat4529]

14:06 I can't agree with you here because Kenobi was originally supposed to be a tribology of movies with WAY different scripts. The original scripts stories are even public now and I think they are way better than anything the show has done. So not only did they turn 3 movies into a show (I think because of the flop of Solo), but also wrote new scripts that were actively worse than the ones they had before, because the completely changed who was make this show now and ditched the trilogy movie creators with the better story. Movies being turned into shows is not necessarily an issue as you say, but it's bad when the creators can't write a good or logical story/ characters in those scripts.

[@peterparker1683]

There is no way Lucasfilm is gonna follow up on multiple seasons after the abysmal numbers it got. It may have been that way because of jaded feelings from the decline in Star Wars but that still doesn’t mean Lucasfilm is gonna throw away more money on a failed product

[@tushar8338]

I think disney is forcing to watch us to watch star war series,i m happy that i didn't even watch single movie or series related to it . 😂

[@MEBoisv]

6:30 I like the comparison to Marvel shows. I feel like Marvel shows are actually more self contained than Star Wars shows. There are exceptions, for example to understand Wandavision you need to have seen some Avengers movies. Secret Invasion feels pretty connected to things. However shows like Moon Knight, She-Hulk, and Ms. Marvel are completely self contained. Even shows like Hawkeye and Loki are pretty easy to follow even if you're new to the MCU. I agree that things started to fall apart around the end of Boba Fett, when the show veered off into Mando & Grogu.

[@LordLawwritesforfans]

Disney/ Lucasfilm remove your major IPs from D+. Return to the cinema. Return to storytelling. I have the stories and a plan for the next twenty years of success for Lucasfilm. Let me pitch please. Have Hope fans!

[@tanyasalas2763]

We all know Why.....stop with the excuses...

[@steelguitar8587]

Imagine trying to tell someone in 2012 that Disney was going to make more Star Wars content than you could ever want, but that would never include seeing Luke, Han, and Leia onscreen in the same shot

[@shaneregan7745]

Very odd to use skeleton crew in the thumbnail considering it’s like the only decent Star Wars project since Andor.

[@Dakr2000]

I know I’m convinced these KZbinrs don’t actually watch and just grift

[@jamesarnold7253]

I really like skeleton crew but apparently it's been very unsuccessful. So makes to use it as the thumbnail

[@alanhaynes9672]

I disagree with the Ahsoka comments. I've never seen any of the animated stuff and I quite enjoyed it and didn't find any of it hard to understand. It wasn't on the level of Andor, but still enjoyable.

[@LordMegaGamer]

Ahsoka was very fun and enjoyable while it lasted but I wouldn’t entirely say it’s groundbreaking like how Andor was, but overall it’s fine

[@alanhaynes9672]

@ agreed, far from groundbreaking

[@kdusel1991]

​@@LordMegaGamer I agree! I have an issue with how Thrawn was handled but overall I enjoyed it.

[@zandosdwarf-king]

@@LordMegaGamer the only groundbreaking thing about andor IMO was they managed to make a show, which would be more interesting with each scene containing main character removed

[@darrengaroutte7744]

I respectfully disagree. Skelton Crew may be a fine show, but multiple seasons of it will not help Disney or the Star Wars brand. At best it may keep the fans they have now, but a show like that Skeleton Crew is not likely to grow a fanbase. What they need is to make Star Wars an event, which means they have to go back to old-school booking. They need to create an antagonist, and no he doesn't have to be a galactic threat, but he does have to be a threat. That means he has to win, you can't job him out at the end of each season like Moff Gideon. You build up the antagonist for 2 to 3 seasons, only giving the protagonist(s) minor victories or stalemates along the way. Then you conclude things with a movie or movies. If you do it right the fans will help promote the movie through the hype they build with regards to seeing the antagonist finally fall. People overall prefer the chase rather than seeing their hero on top.

[@orboakin8074]

Great video and overall analysis. As someone who has been a Star Wars fan since childhood in Nigeria, I am also just apathetic to disney star wars😕 I am just tired of all the bad writing, bad lore, toxic identity politics masquerading as diversity, and the antagonism towards fans. As silver lining is that I have now been introduced to the Expanded Universe from friends of mine. Now, I am just content with Lucas era Star wars, EU novels, KOTOR series and new stuff like the Fallen Order games. I still enjoy Star Wars but I will simply stick to what I feel won't be disappointing.

[@thegoldman25]

Thanks for the support!

[@orboakin8074]

@thegoldman25 thank. Keep being awesome

[@TheKeyser94]

To be honest I really not give a shit about Luke Skywalker, Leia and Han Solo being the main characters, they should have done that in the Sequels, not in the TV Shows, their story arcs were complete, done, they could have cameos, but I would despise the story if they were the main characters, again, but the new character aren't as good either, I loved the Clone Wars, but Rebels was the toned down version of Clone Wars, and I hate that Disney is unable to past the OT fucking era.

[@HellfireClub242]

It has failed because Disney was anti OT/PT. They decided to diminish the legacy characters. They did this by making them failures. Characters we have grown up with fundamentally failed in their mission. And what they did with Luke was abysmal. Rightfully, fans lost faith with Disney. So from then on, shows have felt like cheap fan service. There is no substance or love for the shows. Just merely sell toys and gravitate to new fans. Thus, ignoring the past fans. Disney should have based Episodes 7-9 around Luke Skywalker and the New Jedi Order. This way, Lukes legacy would have been maintained. as well as Leia, Han,Chewbacca, and Lando. But die to Disney's incompetence. Whatever they release will be scrutinised. They bought a product without researching exactly WHY its popular. Not ignoring why it's popular. Basically, Disney wants new fans to start following Episode 7 onwards. Because Episodes 1-6 are basically voided. Disney Plus shows no matter how much they release, will never capture the excitement of the Lucasfilm era.

[@kdusel1991]

I liked what they did with Luke. Rise Of Skywalker was a joke though.

[@albertthepeacock8020]

​@kdusel1991 idk I thought TRoS was ok but it could have been better if they went with the original plan and split it into 2 parts but Lucasfilms/Disney got cold feet because the loud minority were crying over TLJ

[@HellfireClub242]

@@kdusel1991 Disagree. I thought what they did to Luke was character assassination at it's finest. All three ST movies were terrible.

[@_somerandomguyontheinternet_]

Dude, they were never anti-OT. The first thing they did was make a show set in the OT Era. Episode VII was marketed as more in line with the OT than the PT to appease PT haters. They spent more time in the PT Era than anywhere else in the first half decade of ownership. They weren’t anti-PT either, per se, but it took them a bit to realize there was a market for PT-Era stuff after the MASSIVE hate towards the PT.

[@_somerandomguyontheinternet_]

@@HellfireClub242hard disagree. In ROTJ, Luke temporarily succumbed to the dark side after Vader threatened his sister and tried to murder Vader, barely stopping himself. In TLJ, we find out that Luke had a momentary moment of weakness after seeing the darkness inside Ben, which maybe even consisted of seeing Han dying, and all that consisted of was igniting his lightsaber before turning it off, but it was too late by then. He didn’t attempt to murder his nephew, much as some people seem to think he did. He temporarily succumbed to the Dark Side long enough to ignite his lightsaber, but no more. Luke’s moment of weakness was in-character for him. After all, the Dark Side is shown to be something that cannot be merely conquered once, but something that must be resisted your whole life. “A struggle lifelong it is, not to bend fear into anger.” -Yoda

[@fergusclarken8437]

Remember Disney + is basically for iPad kids / single digit children or people that are hooked on the Disney machine. That are making it too complicated, the clone wars show seasons 1-5 was easy to understand for kids. Everything they put out needs so much research and studying to understand for the average viewer

[@johandark]

I'm afraid that all your proposals would go to the drain, not because they are bad ideas, but just because writers suck, and they will suck no matter what they do. All Disney + Star wars, except Manadalorian season 1 and 2, had been a complete failure, so extend anything of that would be just a mistake. The real good idea would be, hire GOOD writers and let them COOK.

[@matthewsands3591]

They couldn't have done a worse job if they tried. TLJ embodies everything they did wrong as that's when the exodus of fans began. The disrespect for lore and established characters broke many people's good will. Everything else suffered because it was connected to a now broken universe.

[@eazyecoheed16]

Hell would freeze over before they green-lit a season of 10 episodes. Your plan is a good one, but Disney would never commit to spending so much money.

[@Marvinmart1an]

He said Andor had 12 episodes, and season 2 has a 12 count episode list as well

[@eazyecoheed16]

@Marvinmart1an yes one show. Also, the one show that everyone agrees is great. Even then, the insiders were iffy it would get renewed bc it took a while to catch on. So much so that they actually aired a couple of episodes on ABC. Agatha All Along was supposed to be 9 episodes, but they trimmed that, and then WandaVision was also trimmed down to save money. It's happened all across the industry, HOTD season 2 was supposed to be 10 episodes and got trimmed down. Companies aren't committing to long form seasons bc they want to be cheap.

[@BladeTheWatcher]

Please, please don't save Disney, or Disney +. Let them die. We don't want their corporate greed, lack of creative vision, terrible storytelling, and oppressive politics. Let someone else try again - there was something fundamentally different, something creative starting with Rogue One, we need fresh viewpoints like that. The rest is just garbage to be deleted, even if Baby Yoda was ultra cute. That is for kids, not for a mature show, and they ruined it the same.

[@Holydiver88]

The number 1 problem is the exec team. Until that's totally replaced nothing will change. You need to hire writer and show runners who have a clear vision and are good at writing. But that's not going to happen if kk is running star wars.

[@AlecFortescue]

16:14 Well-received; not successful.

[@BrickinRidiculous]

The main thing Disney is trying to do is make shows they know people will watch even if they’re not good! For example naming a show Ahsoka so Clone Wars fans will want to watch it or making a show all about Boba Fett. Even though they’re mediocre or just flat out suck fans will still watch them anyway.

[@craigmoffitt2374]

And then there are those who will complain no matter what.

[@allanjstark]

Sad. A very good Serie is failing.

[@christopherpece5145]

At this point, I'm just waiting for Andor Season Two...that's it. Then I'm done.

[@keaixiaomeinv]

Exactly this.

[@jonasd.6030]

Same

[@noahvoris3637]

This video is probably my new favorite Star Wars Discussion video of all time!! You really hit the nail on the head with EVERYTHING you said here bro!! I think Star Wars has the potential to really get interesting again if they start implementing ideas and concepts like these. I agree with everything you said!

[@MoneyMandown]

Disney sat down and was like let’s write the worst starwars stories possible it’ll be great

[@Jimbo28263]

I loved Ashoka as a continuation of rebels however I witnessed what an outsider thought of the show when my step dad watched it. He was so confused. He did not know what was going on. He did not know Anakin had an apprentice and did not know any of these characters. He said to me “Why did they make a show for that Ashahooka chick from mandalorian” lol. He also loved book of boba for some reason.

[@IsaiahRichards692]

I hated Ahsoka because they were over reliant on fan service, Hera committed a mutiny, Thrawn was dumb and the main characters had insane plot armor!

[@jaxsonburch-eo1vz]

I mean to be fair, how are you a Star Wars fan and not know who Ahsoka is? She’s been around for years. You don’t even have to have watched rebels to know that. There’s the clone wars show, the clone wars movie, tales of the Jedi, and the Mandalorian and boba Fett show. You’d literally have to have avoided watching all of those things to not know who she is. And if you did then you’re probably not a Star Wars fan. I don’t know what to tell you. I don’t even think Ahsoka is a good show but we have to be reasonable here.

[@GenJuhru]

@jaxson I can imagine those peeps whom only watched the movies, animation is really not for everyone.

[@chrismcclure4264]

What's crazy about the whole thing is they should hire somebody like you. Somebody who cares and somebody who understands the stories. Even implementing some of your plans would be better than the crap they have right now. Great video!

[@OrangePopAndBirthdayCake]

Fundamentally *disagree* with the gist of ur op ed - y'see *Star Wars* was ALWAYS setup with serialised storylines; Lucas grew up with thos b&w RKO Sat lunchtime shows which Star Wars liberally drew from both in structure and mood. SW on D+ is not floundering bcos the various ents are structured the way they are, no it's moreso due to the decision to drop weekly 30min eps in a climate where the primary competitor (Netflix) let's subbers consume whole seasons all at once. Let's face it, the vast majority tuning into a *Star Wars* D+ show has seen ALL the previous content available, so multiple recurring characters with pre-existing backstories tend to slot in comfortably, without too much effort req'd to justify their inclusion. *DEI* and the advent of an 85% fem SW 'Story Group' is the other major crux - a mor sensible corp than Disney wudnt outsource it's one major LFL IP to rank amateur shiwrunners (like Hedland an Chow) whose prev output has no relevance to these SW projects.

[@BP-dn9nv]

I know conversations about Kennedy get toxic, but I'm still baffled she hasn't been fired and major changes haven't happened at Lucasfilm. Everything I've seen from her screams she's not fit for a management position yet she's still in charge.

[@tushar8338]

How to spoil movie ?make unnecessary series of movies😂

[@Obez45]

6:18 I disagree TV shows can work as a cinematic universe - Start trek did it to great success from the 60s all the way to the early 2000s. Game of thrones are doing it now as well

[@Andrew-sy6on]

Kathleen Kennedy was involved with the force awakens, the last Jedi, Rogue One, solo, Andor and Acolyte. Those were the things she did without outside interference. Kathleen Kennedy was told to change “Duel of the Fates” into “Rise of Skywalker”, and cancel the Obiwan and Boba Fett movies by Disney, after a vocal minority of online trolls convinced Disney to change things. Filoni and Favreau were behind Mandalorian seasons 1-3, Book of Boba Fett, and Ahsoka, most of which I find unwatchable Who is better for Star Wars? The one unfairly labeled the villain by people who don’t actually know what happened, or the guys who are making some of the least imaginative shows on Disney Plus

[@hutzelmann1977]

Well, I would actually agree with you on everything, but I still think that you are neglecting the “quality of the writing” factor too much. Obi wan and acolyte where REALLY terrible in that point...😬

[@RedCaio]

1. and 2. I see your point but not as big a deal imo. Also, Ahsoka, since she is treated like a *new* character. My wife never watched Clone Wars and Ahsoka's ep in Mando didn't confuse her and neither did Ahsoka's show. 3. agreed. Also AI and deepfakes are unethical. just recast them pls 4. agreed 100% I prefer Star Wars as movies. Better acting, better sets and cgi. More hype and cultural impact. Even Skeleton Crew might've worked well as a movie, but I do love your idea of SC as a multi season show.

[@jimbeaux89]

I grew up in the 90’s/2000’s and I grew up on Star Wars (thanks mom). It was my life. I was pumped when Disney bought the IP. There was so much they could do with the brand. So much potential. Fast forward 2025 and I’m entirely checked out of Star Wars, and nothing will bring me back, short of KK retiring or Disney selling the franchise, altogether. I NEVER would’ve imagined that I’d be this apathetic about something that meant so much to me, but here we are. I just truly do not understand how you could take a GOLD MINE like Star Wars with such rich history and lore and make it what it is today. You’d have to ruin it on purpose. But KK drove me out mostly from trying to jam her politics into the brand. And also handing over LEAD ROLES to people who clearly don’t care for Star Wars. I’m to the point where not only do I hate Star Wars, but I just wish it would die, instead of continually popping out projects that are a slap in the face to Lucas’s legacy. I mean I’ve seen amateurs do Star Wars better than every Disney Star Wars they’ve crapped out. The fix is simple. RETCON the entire sequel trilogy, and GIVE THE FRANCHISE TO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY CARES FOR IT. AND FOR GOODNESS SAKE, GET KATHLEEN KENNEDY TF OUT OF STAR WARS!! Rant over.

[@borisgaleana489]

You know I don't understand the approach of many with Star Wars even though they are a minority who think like that currently Star Wars is living a Golden Age again Skeleton Crew is being a Success not to mention that he has a multitude of projects underway, films, series, comics, books, video games, etc. Most are returning to Star Wars and loving it while very few are still with this Hate they should enjoy it. I know this isn't Legends, it's Canon, they're two alternate Universes, but oh well. 😐

[@Murdock13]

16 years between 6 and 1. A decade between 3 and 7. No problem. Let it breath, let people forget, bring something new for a new generation of young viewers. Disney+ needs a subscription, meaning it has a narrow potential audience and will be adults or families. People can get yheir "fix" through streaming while they wait. The sky is NOT falling.

[@mrcat3493]

Disney milked the Star Wars cow dry. They shoveled so much shit onto Disney+. It’s still shocking that we got Andor, which is truly great.

[@BasicGuy834]

remember when mando s1 was an amazing boom, literally thought they might actually save the franchise, but then they messed up so bad by focusing on milking money again...disney cant and wont stay original and wont try to make new things. Star wars ended wih lucas selling the franchise

[@JetsfanMrT]

The same cinematic universe thing ruined The CW DC shows for me, I was loving them for awhile but then it was too much to keep up with and too confusing to keep the order with all the crossovers