Star Wars: Attack of the Clones (2002)... 21 Years Later

[@justinsinger2505]

I will say one of the funniest chain of events in this movie that never fails to make me laugh is the layers to the bug assassination scene. Sideous and Gunray want Padme dead so they ask Dooku to kill her. Dooku asks jango to kill. Jango asks Zam to kill her. Zam haves bugs try to kill her

[@Spongebrain97]

Yeah seriously. I was taking a screenwriting class in college a few years ago which is around the time I decided to rewatch the prequels. Everything you said stood out so much to me when I saw AOTC. Like it's such a basic rule to not make something so overcomplicated if it doesn't need to be. Another error was that George decided to make Zam a shape shifter but does absolutely nothing with it. She runs into the bar to escape Obi Wan and Anakin and never changes into somebody else to hide 😂. So why bother make that detail apart of her character? The movie is at the beginning of the first act and already theres so many annoying issues

[@EmperorDank]

Dont forget the droid carrying the bugs lmao

[@vgrepairs]

​@@EmperorDank Do our politicians personally assassinate enemies or do they send a trusted pawn to hire an accomplice to hire a mercenary, who knows the target is well defended so sends another pawn? Also the scene is a throwback to oldschool cinema. I'll defend the prequels til im dead.

[@thegoldman25]

hahahahah

[@gedbyrne8482]

If the assassination attacks are actually laying a trail of breadcrumbs rather than a real attempt to kill Padme then the extra chain of people make sense.

[@MiloW456]

As always, the best part of this movie is John Williams' exciting, heartwrenchingly beautiful and timelessly iconic score.

[@kdusel1991]

Those are the best parts of any star wars movie! Even the sequels! He always manages to pop the fuck off when it comes to the score.

[@MiloW456]

@@kdusel1991 Yeah, Rey's theme and the way it develops across the three movies is the best part of her character. My favourite John Williams theme of all is Across the Stars (Padme and Ani's love theme)

[@ka5269]

It's a shame it's wasted on such rubbish

[@drumsofspace]

It was really good because he thought the story was, IMO the reason the ST score isn't as good because neither was the story (yes Rey's theme and a few other parts are good but no where near the PT - which had many many more good parts per se)

[@TOFKAS01]

@@MiloW456 Best one is still the Imperial march and Luke and Leias theme.

[@S-Fan2006]

Can I just point out how the Padme on Geonosis scene is funnier when you realise that Padme was the one who got them to Geonosis because Anakin was told to not go there by the Jedi Council, but they didn’t say anything about Padme doing it, so Padme took advantage of that loophole and sent herself and Anakin to Geonosis.

[@wickdaline8668]

Of all the dozens of outfits Padme does wear in AOTC, her Geonosis is the sharpest and most iconic of the bunch.

[@thegoldman25]

100%,

[@etabiansosin]

@@thegoldman25 I hope you get to make videos of certain horror movies in the future.

[@pistolbobcat420]

Agreed, the lake dress also deserves respect, I actually bought that outfit for someone one haha

[@ProjectImpossibleOfficial]

And unfortunately, it's the most sexualized outfit. There was no reason to cut it into a crop-top other than to please the horny superfans.

[@Ad-fu6tj]

"sharpest" Is that a pun about the moment when she gets hurt by Nexu with its sharp claws?

[@Dousch]

Looking at this one as a murder mystery greatly enhances the experience for me. Kenobi traveling from place to place, spending much of the film in a rainy setting - it gives off almost a noir-y mood as he's picking up clues and getting deeper and more entangled into the mystery.

[@TheLordboki]

That would certainly be in line with how Lucas does films. He wholesale borrows scenes and plotlines from other movies. Eg. Scene at the end of Revenge of Sith where Darth Vader awakes is a reconstruction of the famous Frankenstein scene. You can draw parallels between the Monster and Vader. There is a good case to be made that they should be critiqued as such. However, this sort of analysis is beyond the average viewer's ability or interest.

[@TheVCRTimeMachine]

The only problem is all the clues to solve the mystery are basically handed to Obi-Wan on a silver platter. Like why would a bounty hunter with a rocket launcher on his back, flame throwers and laser blasters on his arms, and two laser blasters on his hip kill Zam Wessel using a toxic dart that can be directly traced back to the one planet where the cloning is taking place? And then when Obi-Wan shows up at the planet they are just like, "Hey, welcome master Jedi. We've had no contact with your emissary for over a decade, but we don't find it odd at all. So here's the whole story of how and why the clones were created." The mystery isn't really that mysterious all.

[@TheVCRTimeMachine]

@@TheLordboki Anybody who has ever seen Frankenstein or knows at least the basics of that story would have gotten the reference. It's honestly not that deep to make the connection. When I showed it to my daughters when they were kids they laughed at that scene (like everyone) and one of them literally said, "He's like Frankenstein."

[@robertoso8796]

it seems like there should be a designated person on movie productions who reads the shooting script to find plot holes and lay out a list of things that must be addressed in the final cut so the movie isn't stupid.

[@TheVCRTimeMachine]

@@robertoso8796 George Lucas has always been an "idea man." But he has never been very good at putting the ideas into long form with lots of details that make sense. During the original trilogy he had Gary Kurtz to check him and people to either write the screenplays or clean up his drafts. Once he took complete control and had a new producer who didn't check him, but kissed his feet for 9 years it was bound to be a mess.

[@ryanwilson1426]

I feel if you must describe Attack of the Clones, you could describe a portion of it as a mystery, as Obi-Wan spends most of the movie trying to find Padme's killer

[@thegoldman25]

lol some mystery

[@ryanwilson1426]

@@thegoldman25 Yeah, I never said it worked but it's either that or a space love story

[@TheDrexLord]

I don't think Palpatine has a strick plan, I think he just has goals he needs to reach, so he figures out how to get there based off what is happening around him

[@thegoldman25]

i wish the movie made that a bit more clear

[@TheDrexLord]

@thegoldman25 yeah, the movies don't really specify what his plan is, so it just leaves you to think that he planed everything to happen, even though that would make any sense

[@brooklynhatch9705]

i believe this is the correct take. In the Bad Batch we see Palpatine twist the reveal to the senate about the bombing of Kamino as a indictment of the Clone army and why the empire needs conscription. no matter what happens, he can rhetoric his way into getting what he wants

[@kamikazebulldozerguy]

It's been ages since I've seen the prequel trilogy, but my impression is you're right. My guess is that his "plan" was more meta: "Facilitate Anakin's attachment to people in order to invoke strong emotion, which will in turn lead to his fall to the dark side." This plan would succeed whether Anakin failed to protect Padme's life (and therefore he feels guilty and wants to be more powerful so he doesn't fail like that again), or would also succeed if he falls in love with her. Since he unexpectedly fell in love with her, his plan still works because if he believes her life is in danger (from childbirth this time), he gets scared and wants more power in order to protect her. Same basic plan, but different execution depending on how things play out.

[@Jiub_SN]

The plan has been in the rocks for 1000 years, so he probably intended for all of this to happen and adjusted to the slight variations in it. If you look at most of what happens in the prequels you'll see it tied back to palpatine in some manner

[@NorkelFjols]

The whole "Anakin doesn't know how to talk to girls" argument may make logical sense, but I feel like it's just a generous defence for what is probably just clumsy writing. Who knows, maybe it was deliberate..

[@thegoldman25]

As a sequel defender, I'd be a hypocrite to criticize prequel fans for their mental gymnastics when I do plenty of my own

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

Poor writing is the obvious answer. George wanted to do a romance like Titanic, but he wasn’t good at it. The narrative doesn’t support that Anakin was bad at talking to girls because the the cringey dialogue somehow works to win Padme over. People who say otherwise are just starting from a conclusion that the films must be secretly good, so they’re working backwards from that.

[@MrZackavelli]

​@@thedapperdolphin1590Thats BS. Anakin isn't a suave ladies man like Han. He's much more of a drunk in love schoolboy like Luke when Luke is smitten with Leia in ANH. Anakin doesn't win Padme over with schmoozing, he wins her over with sincerity and their bond that was established 10 years ago. And come on, have you seen how many female fans Hayden Christensen has? Anakin is clearly a good-lookiny guy, so that can't hurt.

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

You are right. And many forget that the Jedi are diplomats, so even if he can't flirt, he hasn't forgotten how to talk. He still has peers and probably diplomatic missions he has gone on. How exactly do people think the Jedi spend there time?

[@theoclutterbuck]

@@MrZackavelli You mean the bond she formed with him when he was a mop-headed three year old? Jeez, that's dark man.

[@bensneb360]

I remember at the time being so excited to see Yoda. He was a light saber, he was always my favorite (alongside Jabba the Hutt) and I finally get to see him be a bad ass and break out some cool moves was really awesome to a 10 year old me.

[@ItsWickked]

As bad as it is , this will always be my favorite I was about 5 years old when it came out . The lightsabers the many Jedi we get to see fighting in the end, the little bit of Obi-Wan and Anakin we get. My nostalgia goggles just always get put on when I watch it. I know all of its faults yet it will always be my Star Wars movie that really made me fall in love with the series and forge me into the lifer fan that I am.

[@reverbtheraptor8529]

I really don't think it was that bad though. Mainly the speeder chase with Zam, then Jango vs Obi Wan and then on is the actually "good part of it" which is most of the movie. I get you though and I remember watching it alot as a kid even though it was Jango vs Obi Wan and then on. I could watch the Jango vs Obi Wan entire sequence and the battle of Geonosis for hours.

[@glowingstuds5360]

I agree, I love this movie

[@8Smoker8]

it's not that bad, or rather it's not worse than the rest. If we put the other SW movies under the same level of scrutity I promise AotC is one of the best.

[@YooperHatesOhioState]

Just watched it Friday/yesterday I enjoyed it. I see the flaws but I still enjoy it. Lot better than the entire sequel trilogy. Like Batman and Robin, spider man 3, and amazing spider man 2, it’s a guilty pleasure of mine

[@JediSentinel1010]

Big eyebrow raise when you said "I get people are into different things" and show Anakin choking Padmé lololol

[@thegoldman25]

hahahah

[@DylanDalal]

In The Phantom Menace, we can see how outer rim territories (Tatooine) are unhappy with the Republic because the Republic does not adequately care for them (slavery). This is one reason for succession, but, it's not a strong one. It should've been touched on more. Similary, I think your analysis of why Padme would fall in love with Anakin is spot-on to Lucas’s thoughts, but yeah, I agree, the execution is lacking. I've always thought that the Jedi Council being blind and corrupt was in line with Episode 6, where Luke uses his passion and rage to defeat his father and his love to spare him, defeating Vader and Palpatine through emotion while still fighting for what's right. Throghout the trilogy, we can see him ignoring the advice of the Jedi over and over again and simply doing what's right (this is also seen with Ahsoka but that's not exactly relevant). In the prequel trilogy, we can see how these same rules and viewpoints brought about their downfall. All-in-all, I pretty much agree with everything you've said here. Well done- subscribed :)

[@jackstyles2251]

“People are in to different things”…. Anakin force choking padme 😂

[@thegoldman25]

hhahahhaahhaahha

[@Spongebrain97]

With regards to Palpatine's overall goal, yeah you said it best with how it seems pretty scattershot and confusing but by the end is written off like "everything went according to plan" lmao. After watching/reading Dune and Game of Thrones which both heavily deal with politics one understands how such authors craft such a good narrative which makes sense and works well on both the screen and in writing. Compare how Littlefinger is written by George RR Martin to how Palpatine is written by George Lucas. Littlefinger has this overarching plan to gain power but often times roadblocks appear and we see how he adjusts his plan when he needs to. With Palpatine it's just "he is so smart that he predicted every outcome that could've happened". I think it's another example of George having good ideas but not writing them out well especially with politics and scheming characters. Imagine if Game of Thrones was written by him. It would be a mess

[@thegoldman25]

This is a fantastic point. I might mention it in my revenge of the sith video. Thank you!

[@ImVeryOriginal]

"Imagine if Game of Thrones was written by him. It would be a mess" Are we actually sure he didn't write Seasons 7 & 8?

[@IshtarNike]

@@ImVeryOriginal um, based on all the evidence...yeah pretty sure.

[@MrZackavelli]

Oh my God, what a BS point. You're comparing an 8 season long television series with a film trilogy? Does it dawn on you at all how much more time GOT has to work with as opposed to George with the prequels?

[@MrZackavelli]

And "everything is going as planned" simply translates to Sidious and Dooku's goal of starting a war. A war has begun, er go things are going according to plan.

[@rileshinson4473]

I think palps wanted anakin to protect padme because he knew it would boost his ego. No matter what happened to padme, palps could decide what to do based on how anakin responded to things. Just a thought

[@shadowprince4620]

That's my thought as well If Padme dies, Palpatine gets to manipulate Anakin's anger. If Padme lives, Palpatine gets to manipulate Anakin's feelings for her

[@qq-wy7zs]

That's kind of how he handled everything. If the separatists win, he's in charge. If the Republic wins, he's in charge. If the separatist treaty goes through at Geonosis, they declare independence and start a war. If the Jedi attack and disrupt the proceeding, they start the war even earlier. He has a plan, but for the details, he "just rolls with it."

[@kbanghart]

​@@qq-wy7zstrue.. and because he can hide his true intentions he's always step ahead.

[@Will-j8q1w]

I like Palpatine...the boss of bosses...King Cool.

[@darthmaul3998]

There are very small things that could’ve been done to make this movie a lot better but i honestly really love this movie. It’s so unique and in depth and transitions perfectly into the clone wars. Anakin’s awkward and unapologetic love for padme, padme’s struggle between her responsibilities as a senator and her growing love for anakin, obi wan’s entire mystery that he unravels, the introduction of both dooku and jango fett. It’s honestly a very well done film once you get used to the fact that obi wan is more of an older brother to anakin than a father and also the fact that anakin is an angsty horny teen who has been obsessed with padme for a very long time now and has stupid cringy teenage love with her. It’s very well done.

[@Eviscerator03]

Totally with you about Clone Wars series 'improving' the prequels. I get that people who experience Star Wars as a whole world rather than individual stories within that world can think that way, but even then it's like saying it took 5 seasons of TV to make a couple of movies 'work'.

[@thegoldman25]

100%

[@Spongebrain97]

Yeah media like The Clone Wars and also video games and books should only be supplementary material to where they add onto the main films but NOT to where they essentially serve as a band aides which patch up the flaws of the films. The films gotta stand on their own

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I think it’s part of the reason we’ve seen a lot of revisionist history around the prequels in the SW fan base in recent years. They were near universally hated not that long ago, but now people are acting like they’re misunderstood masterpieces. They had some interesting ideas that they failed to execute on, but the show did a better job of it. Though even CW can be pretty rough. The pilot movie and the first season is basically garbage, and the second season isn’t that much better. So it’s really only the later seasons of CW that brought any good writing out of the prequels

[@MrZackavelli]

​@@thedapperdolphin1590Oh BS. There is no revisionist history that's going on. It's the fact that the kids who the prequels were made for have grown up and can actually defend these films on the internet now. The prequels didn't need TCW to fix them in any way. If you don't watch TCW, you can still understand the prequels just fine.

[@MrZackavelli]

The prequels didn't need TCW to fix them at all. If you don't watch TCW, you can still understand the prequels just fine.

[@WielkaPolska-o9t]

The worst part is, is that this movie had so much potential. Rewatching it now, I can kind of get a glimpse of what George Lucas was trying to do, and had he executed his plan better, and allowed more autonomy for his staff, and actors, I really think this movie would've been one of the best Star Wars' movies. Thankfully Clone Wars made up for this monstrosity.

[@Badbufon]

in hindsight, the prequel movies should have been a tv series with time to explore all the stuff he wanted to do and not clap a whole season into 1 episode.

[@ElStink4K]

Monstrosity is a strong word

[@AlexX-vn5sw]

I really liked this movie. I thought it was good but not perfect but it definitely lacked a bit

[@8Smoker8]

It's still better than most of the Original Trilogy.

[@thuikippl5034]

​@@8Smoker8I wish that was the case but no it isn't

[@benruniko]

Its so sad that all these questions are answered in secondary media for star wars so well, but none of that is communicated in the movies. A rewrite of attack of the clones from the complete story in hindsight would improve it so much. Also, well made video. Earned my sub. Well done sir!

[@MrZackavelli]

This video is so clueless. When I was watching it I was able to explain away every "problem" purely with examples from the movies.

[@beatrixwickson8477]

I've always been baffled by Palpatine's plan. But when you spell it out it actually seems more like his plan was to have Anakin and Padme fall in love and every assassination attempt failed intentionally. Jango subcontracting a kill out to Zam Wessel because he knew she'd make a mess of it and he'd have an excuse to plant some evidence (the dart) to lead the Jedi to Kamino. I don't honestly think Lucas was thinking that but it's a comforting head-canon.

[@MrZackavelli]

No, Jango and Zam aren't in on it. The trail of evidence left by Jango isn't intended to lead back to Kamino, but how things play out, Obi-Wan discovers Kamino and gets captured on Geonosis, and Palpatine sees the perfect opportunity to unleash the CIS army, which in turn will start the war. Let's say one of these steps fails and Obi-Wan doesn't have a trail to follow Jango. Does this mean that the jig is up and Palpatine has no options left? Of course not. There will plenty of more opportunities in the future to start the war.

[@LeeEverett1]

The assassination plan of Padme is the funniest thing about this movie. Nute Gunray wants Padme dead so he asks Palpatine, who orders Dooku, who hires Jango, who hires a shapeshifter, who sends a droid, who sends bugs to kill Padme 😂🤦

[@autobotproductions1244]

And technically the bugs have their venom do the killing for them

[@timwise7277]

28:25 “Shmi is the last person who will unconditionally love him” I never actually thought of it in that exact way but god it hurt when I did

[@thegoldman25]

puts things into perspective

[@ReminiscentIndustries]

But...Luke???

[@timwise7277]

@@ReminiscentIndustries I definitely will say that ended up being the case years later, but at this point in Anakin’s life Shmi is probably the only person in the galaxy he knows will love him regardless of what he does.

[@PixlPlayer]

@@ReminiscentIndustriesea that’s kind of the point of the Anakin’s whole redemption. Luke is the first person since his mother that unconditionally accepts him for who he is, and because of that Anakin can be redeemed. But in the context of this video, Luke hasn’t happened yet and so his mom is the only one

[@notreallymyname3736]

"This movie is 21 years old..." BRUH. I feel old as hell right now.

[@thegoldman25]

you are old my guy

[@notreallymyname3736]

@@thegoldman25 I mean, you're not wrong. I just hadn't thought about it in a while.

[@_MaZTeR_]

The Force Awakens is 10 years old next year as well, let that sink in

[@thegrandpowerchannel314]

The Phantom Menace is literally older than me lol

[@jalenciagass99]

AOTC was my first star wars movie so i will always have a soft spot in my heart for it

[@thegoldman25]

everyones first star wars movie should have a soft spot in their heart

[@thomasantrobus8261]

Also small counterpoint to your video. I believe Obi Wan in the archives to be an important scene as it establishes an arrogance within the Jedi order, similar to Yoda commenting on it during the exposition scene in the temple with Yoda, Obi Wan and Windu. This is an important cornerstone of why the Jedi fall in this trilogy and is a good way of displaying it in my eyes.

[@thegoldman25]

That’s a good explanation, I think it could’ve come across better tho. I don’t look at Jocasta any as being arrogant

[@thomasantrobus8261]

@@thegoldman25 I can understand the idea not being fully sold to you. However, I have experienced belittling put downs from authority figures like in the scene shown, her performance felt pretty authentic to me. I then feel like a great juxtaposition was created in the children being open minded enough to think of why the planet wouldn’t be in the archives. That tells me that plenty of these children had the potential to be a good force for the galaxy (pun intended) but their mentors let them down through a rigidity and their dogma. Lucas has always spoke of his influences being WW2, Vietnam and the Iraq War and it seems like he could almost see ahead of time a lot of the current generations dismay at something like the Iraq war that was sold as being necessary to them at a young age. Really it always comes down to Lucas’ grand ideas and his struggle to effectively communicate them when it comes to the prequels, I’ve always erred on the side of appreciating intention regardless and do some of the legwork in my brain but I fully appreciate not everything connects properly for everyone watching. Appreciate getting to discuss this with you though, finished the video moments ago and enjoyed everything you had to say like usual. :)

[@titimtitim9465]

For your point arround 10:30 I think that even if Padmé died during the movie Anakin would still have a lot of pain and started to fall in the dark side, he was in love and that's enought

[@thegoldman25]

interesting

[@gusandthetv]

I think when Palpatine said "Everything is going as planned," he was referring to the thousand year-old "Great Sith Plan" to overthrow the republic which had wiggle room concerning the details like Padme.

[@justinsinger2505]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the reason Dooku was trying to have Padme killed is because Nute Gunray wanted her to dead and Sideous wanted Padme dead because she was largely against the idea of the Republic having an army which means she would of put a halt to Palpatines plan with the clones

[@thegoldman25]

Still confuses me why he would suggest Obi Wan help her then

[@justinsinger2505]

Palpatine wanting Padme to be guarded by someone was most likely all a ruse to keep up appearances

[@thegoldman25]

I struggle to believe that

[@justinsinger2505]

@@thegoldman25 I don’t know about that. I think Palpatine knew he had to be extremely careful about how he went about his plan. So caring about the senator who is openly opposing his plan for an army would obviously make people think oh yes Palpatine is a great chancellor. As to why he would of specifically chosen Obi Wan and Anakin I have absolutely no clue. Yes down the line it was confirmed Palpatine basically manipulated Anakins entire life and fall to the dark side but at the time of AOTC we had no knowledge of that yet. I do think a big part of Palpatines plan was keeping Obi Wan and Anakin seperated as much as possible and revenge of the sith kinda confirms this when Obi Wan and Anakin are seperated. Anakin basically kept making bad decisions that lead him to the dark side. But again why would we the viewer believe Palpatine has any interest in Anakin at this moment.

[@MrZackavelli]

No, he doesn't want Padme dead. He wants to create the appearance that her life is in danger so that there will be an excuse to send her to home planet for safety and keep her from voicing opposition to the Military Creation Act in senate hearings.

[@CyberSonic-V3.0]

This movie imo was a slog to rewatch up until the battle of geonosis where i liked the battle but didn’t really care about what was going on. I just feel like this movie while having interesting and amazing ideas wasn’t executed well but that’s been said by many others.

[@thegoldman25]

Yeah im with you

[@Jay-gq1mo]

I find this one forgettable and and the first one boring(except for a few sequences) but Episode 3 is my favorite Star Wars movie, I hope The Gold Man makes a video on it

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I don’t even think the battle is interesting. It’s just a mass of cg blobs shooting at each other or a stupid number of Jedi extras waving sticks around

[@ToxinWolffe]

10:48 I believe this is what we escalation. Palpatine knew Anakin had some sort of feelings for Padme, either through conversation or just because Palpatine just manages to be ten steps ahead. Anyways, the reason he wanted Padme assassinated is to draw attention to her, and the need to protect her- the intention of the assassination attempt is for Padme to survive. I wouldn't be surprised if Jango sent his apprentice to kill her because he knew Zam would be too incompetent and probably get caught.

[@HylianSith920]

"This mini-vacation for Anakin and Padme allows them to be selfish for once in their lives". Wow, that is an interesting point I never thought of on Padme's part. A thought has been brewing in my head recently about the contentious point: *Why would Padme reasonably fall for someone who confessed to mass murder of women and children?* There's a deleted scene for the film called Padme's Bedroom, and in that scene, she and Anakin talk about outreach work Padme did when she was younger. I recently looked at that scene, and it dawned on me. As you mentioned, Padme lived her entire life as a politician. Politicians and monarchs always have a disconnect from the common people because of their status, wealth, etc. At a certain point, Padme can't understand the plight of people considered "uncivilized", which is why she's curious enough to explore Tatooine in Episode I and callously asks Anakin when she meets him if he is a slave. Later, she can't comprehend the lawlessness of systems outside of the Republic's representation and Shmi has to tell her "The Republic doesn't exist out here". We see examples in our society of how many politicians can be tone deaf or insincere about how they try and reach out to their constituents. Then we get to the Tuskens. For the entire original saga, Tuskens are referred to and presented as subhuman. You always hear the words "animal" and "monsters" associated with them the way colonizers would talk about Indigenous people who don't comprehend that they are a people forced to survive and retaliate for having so much of their ancestral home taken from them (Which is why I love how The Book of Boba Fett humanizes them). Cliegg Lars goes on a whole speech in this film about how vicious and mindless they are. To someone like Padme, it'd be easy to sell this depiction of them. So when Anakin confesses to killing an entire tribe of them, she might not even consider them sentient enough to be humanized, not out of any malicious intent like Anakin, but out of a lack of understanding of them. All she sees is that Anakin killed what most people consider "animals" for killing his mother in blind rage, and Padme tries to comfort his rage as a natural response. "To be angry is to be human". All this to say/TL;DR: *I think Padme didn't think of the Tuskens as human any more than Anakin did, which is why she excuses it until he kills human children in the next movie.*

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

Also because Lucas said that because of the line of work Padme is in, she never meant someone verbally honest like Anakin.

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

Or it’s just poorly written and forced

[@MrZackavelli]

​@@thedapperdolphin1590The dude explains a concise argument in multiple paragraphs to establish his point, and all you have is "or maybe it's just poorly written and forced." Your argument pales in comparison to the original poster.

[@MrZackavelli]

​@@jamesarnold7253Oh please. 1) The gungans aren't kidnapping and torturing innocent people; they're just unfriendly. 2) Padme isn't a pacifist, she's just against the Military Creation Act because she believes it will pressure and alienate systems into joining the Separatists. Padme clearly isn't a pacifist, considering she takes back her throne by force in TPM and fights in the Battle of Geonosis.

[@MrZackavelli]

​@@jamesarnold7253You realize you can be "sentient" and still be barbaric? Sentience means that you're conscious and have free will. The sand people are never depicted as not being sentient, just barbaric.

[@rodsmediaroom835]

I love how you said, "I get people are into different things," while showing Padme getting force choked. I laughed so hard I had to pause the video.

[@surfinusa-beachboystribute3702]

Same! 😂

[@DarkLordMavi]

When the Anakin and Padme section started, I was somewhat perplexed by your response to Count Dooku. Tyrannus, in my opinion, was a huge missed opportunity from the film to clarify exactly why someone would leave the Jedi Order or leave the Republic. There's a scene of him talking with Obi Wan where Kenobi accuses him of being a traitor, to which he responds, "Oh no, my friend. This is a mistake, a terrible mistake. They've gone too far; this is madness." The line begs to be explored more, but Obi Wan moves the conversation back toward the main plot, and with the motion, away from motivation that Dooku was so desperately lacking in this film. Sure, he was working as Sideous's aprentice, however, he also served at the head of the Seperatist Alliance. Learning his outlook on the state of the galaxy, and by proxy, the outlook of the Seperatists, would have rectified many of the issues brought up previously in this video essay. And surely Obi Wan would want to question why the man who trained his master Qui Gon would have betrayed the Order and the Republic to such a degree, especially with both factions on the brink of war. That entire scene with Obi Wan imprisoned instead focuses on a false motivation for Dooku, as he tells Obi Wan that there is a Sith in control of the Republic, and that he and Obi Wan should join forces to uproot the corruption. While this exposition does serve the plot, it could have been done elseware, and the opportunity to humanize the Seperatist cause is passed by.

[@thegoldman25]

I know there are a lot of dooku fans out there, but I am not one of them

[@MrZackavelli]

What you're describing would take up a huge chunk of screentime and I swear, all the critics in the comment section have no concept of the idea of limited screen time and just say "TCW explained the movie better." I'll admit, the scene in which you're describing wasn't in the movie (it is in the deleted scenes though), but its still not completely necessary. Dooku is well-aware of the corruption in the senate because he informs Obi-Wan of it, and boom, there's your motivation. Dooku wants a less corrupt government.

[@DayTripperrr]

I just finished watching the movie again and by the end I was blown away.The ending of attack of the clones mirroring the ending of Empire just had me feeling so emotional.This is a great movie and I love it.

[@universalflamethrower6342]

Exactly, pretty solid movie, but fandoms being fandoms can not admit to that. Even with the knowledge of the sequals.

[@georgelucas2571]

I may have gone too far in a few places.

[@treehavn]

It rhymes, its like poetry

[@jacobshroyer6109]

This was my first Star Wars movie, asked my dad to buy it for me when I saw the dvd on display at a gas station. I watched it and the second behind the scenes disk so much as a kid. Definitely a personal classic.

[@TapiTalk]

YES always a gem when you upload! I cant actually watch it yet cos I have to sleep but commenting to help boost this into the algorithm!

[@thegoldman25]

Thank you!

[@howiemoore]

my thought was always that Palpetine genuinely wanted Obi Wan to be busy protecting Padme so he could influence Anakin uninterrrupted

[@nilsf5302]

I must say that although my heart disagrees with your final statement, you really made some convincing points. Watching those two movies back to back really shows how much more mature and character-focused Attack of the Clones is imo. Great video as always :)

[@thegoldman25]

Thank you for watching!

[@katearcher8514]

Some time after I watched the whole saga for the first time I tried to recollect what each film is about. All I had for this one was - The one where Anakin is whining. Clone Wars made this film meaningful, impactful. The whole Kenobi plotline about clones is way more interesting and engaging now.

[@thegoldman25]

lol i love the way you put it

[@Gooooofey]

Then you clearly didn’t pay attention. Since I need to explain a film for 12 year olds to you Palpatine is building the ruckus in the senate from the phantom menace to fabricate a war to twist it into the empire in the OT

[@Gooooofey]

@@thegoldman25 Then you clearly didn’t pay attention. Since I need to explain a film for 12 year olds to you Palpatine is building the ruckus in the senate from the phantom menace to fabricate a war to twist it into the empire in the OT

[@katearcher8514]

@@Gooooofey I said "first time", clown, obviously a lot of time has passed since then. And I definitely didn't ask for your stupid explanation.

[@MrZackavelli]

​@@GooooofeyThank you. Keep defending the prequels from nonsense arguments like this one.

[@Skute]

I do have a soft spot for ep2 but it’s overall just so much wasted potential.

[@thegoldman25]

when i was 8 this was my favorite movie ever

[@greenwalltree]

@@thegoldman25I would watch this and the clone wars series for hours 😂

[@thegrandpowerchannel314]

Sub-Zero from MK11: "Such WASTED potential"

[@HeatherAngus-vj2jq]

Attack Of The Clones is slightly better than The Phantom Menace because it has more action scenes, more depth, more complexity, and is just overall a really fun movie to watch! I love it! Revenge Of The Sith is definitely the best Star Wars movie of all time, but, Attack Of The Clones is still almost as good. Also, I think Anakin and Padme had good chemistry and a really good and compelling tragic love for one another.

[@Spongebrain97]

George cannot write good romantic dialogue and so he created a worse love story than Twilight

[@thegoldman25]

Hahahaha

[@ItsWickked]

Not sure if I would go that far. Twilight is pretty fucking rough man 😂😂. But yeah Anakin and Padme isn’t great either

[@malasshorts9580]

The older I got the more I realized that the dialogs was good

[@saulcervantes1975]

Now, look. Anakin/Padme is cringey in the same way your first relationship was when you were 13. Twilight is straight up a psychological domestic horror novel pretending to he romantic

[@urbex_coasters]

I used to agree. Then I found myself playing Padme's role in an abusive relationship and I'll say it's VERY realistic. That said I was smart enough to leave the relationship at the equivilant to the point where she talks politics with Anikin in that feild.

[@jamfrancis]

Great vid! Thank you for having actual original opinions instead of re flavoring every review that has ever been made for the prequels

[@thegoldman25]

I appreciate that! Thank you for watching!

[@coreyschoermer7464]

Long time fan here (30+ yrs) and I tried to rewatch this trilogy with a very open mind and heart. Dear god it is FAR worse now than ever….it is just unbelievably hard to watch

[@therealpxdro]

honestly, the only one that saves is revenge of the sith

[@Will-j8q1w]

Just the opposite for me...wasn't that impressed at first and always thought I was missing something....which I was. Star Wars is vast...to much to take in with one viewing. The more I watch and rewatch all the movies the more I learn...I pick up something new each time and it's all starting to fit together. Overall I think each movie is great.

[@coreyschoermer7464]

@@Will-j8q1wwonderful. Still doesn’t make that move any less shit

[@Xristoforos41493]

I think you forget that characters aren’t omniscient. Other characters might have to tell them things the audience knows. And on more miscellaneous points like when Obi-wan is venting to Mace Windu about his concerns with Anakin, and Mace attempts to reinforce confidence in Obi-wan about the situation. Of course everyone in the audience and scene know Anakin is both arrogant and supposedly the chosen-one, but they’re having a human conversation. Also, there was legitimate concern that the dark side could be clouding the situation on Anakin’s status as said “chose one”, which in fact was doing so. I pretty much argee with the rest of your critiques though. Although I feel certain “holes” in Palpatine’s plot could be explained.

[@tahuaroa]

I played this DVD to death. So great to have homegrown NZ talents Temuera, Rena Owen & Daniel Logan in this movie

[@thegoldman25]

i did too

[@Will-j8q1w]

Me too! The more I watch these movies the more I learn something new.

[@sebastianwilson1589]

VHS for me 😅

[@sarahgs_]

As a lady in the audience, I don’t think I would’ve fallen in love with Anakin. Don’t get me wrong, I do love him and Hayden Christenson is most definitely attractive, but Anakin is a whiny little punk and as you said, he’s often rude to Padmè. I love Anakin but if I was Padmè? I don’t think I would’ve liked him romantically. This movie is my favorite out of the prequels tho and I will swoon over their romance every time (I’m delusional) but realistically, I doubt Padmè would’ve fallen in love with Anakin. I always love your takes, and I do agree with the “why” of Padmè falling in love with Anakin. Their potential was so good and if Anakin had some small personality changes, I would believe it a bit more. I do love their romance though and I can look past it because I’m a hopeless romantic 😂

[@thegoldman25]

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, thanks for watching!

[@henrymockingbird9645]

Your attack of the clones review is improvement over your phantom menace review I appreciated that you tried to understand and see why people liked the prequels even if you yourself don’t and if online critics should do that

[@thegoldman25]

I appreciate that. I think more wont be fond that review because I genuinely find almost nothing redeemable about that movie, while there is stuff I like in AOTC

[@henrymockingbird9645]

@@thegoldman25 I respect and appreciate your opinion order than the fact I disagree with you that there is almost nothing redeemable about the phantom menace but props to you for trying to respect peoples like prequels

[@kylebittner1327]

For Palpatine's plan i can think of a few reasons why it works. Palpatine could have set up for Jango to leave a trail after the assassination attempt to lead the jedi to kamnio who would report the army to the senate thus putting the army in his lap. He also wanted to play into Anakins emtions which is shown he knows well. Setting him off with Padme would force Anakin to play into his emotions

[@gkoymnbxykfb]

And if Obi-Wan didn't follow the trail back to Kamino, Palpatine+Dooku could have tried again. It's a bit stupid that they stop the investigation when they find the army. But in their defense, they suddenly have a war on their hands and that takes priority.

[@MogwaiEar]

That’s a huuuuge reach, and not supported by anything we see in the movie. Just lazy writing is all it was.

[@fishndchick2228]

24:43 yes lady in the audience here. Anakin is a total creep who goes too intense too fast. He's controlling and a total simp and I would run away from him with hyper speed.

[@thegoldman25]

Hahaha thank you for responding! I'm glad I got at least 1 response to that

[@AntiNihilist]

Weird that he says the war was built up only in this movie. Dude...Episode 1 was the first moment. The trade federation was the backbone of the separatists, financially.

[@Ryuk45]

Phantom Menace is shot on 35mm film and has excellent production design and lots of real sets+location shooting. Attack of the Clones was shot on early digital keeping it stuck permanently at 900p resolution, the entire movie is just actors on sound stages with blue screens 2 feet behind them, it looks like a bad cartoon. An absolute eyesore of a film that is physically painful for me to watch.

[@thegoldman25]

I considered talking about that, but there wasn't much to say imo

[@alexworld1992]

I had a concept in mind which Depicts the same obsessive desire Anakin had for Padme, and through the story pursues validation for his feelings - Padme however jilts him and tells him hes blinded by an idea of her, while she deeply cares for him, he isnt truly in love with her and rejects him telling him eventually he will understand. Then, he receives visions of his mother - goes alone and the same fate unravels. Both rejected and Furious he cuts down the tusken raiders. He then wishes to exact his revenge on Padme (nothing too savage) in the form of humiliation or outriggt verbal confrontation. Palapatine witnesses his struggle, intercepts and comforts him and its to Palpatine Anakin reveals what he has done. It ties into the fact Anakin has spoken about His mother to Palpatine. I would have geniunley preffered luke and leahs mother / anakins love to be someone newly introduces and seperate to padme - having her focused purley on being a senator. It would leave a few loose ends but its a start for an alternative idea. For a start once the narrative involcing his mother is finhshed he returns to couroscant or naboo and perhaps only ventures to Genosis once the Jedi order decide to attack

[@DrakeAurum]

The most likely explanation for Padme falling in love with Anakin based upon the scenes as we see them is also the creepiest - basically that Anakin, overpowered and undercontrolled Force user that he is, is unconsciously exerting mental influence on Padme every moment that he's with her.

[@thegoldman25]

probably

[@-UnknownHero]

Wow... never thought about that explanation. As others habe commented: The realationship was so forced

[@MrZackavelli]

Dude, they go back 10 years. They're both attractive people with things in common on an eden-like planet which functions as a romantic getaway. I never found their relationship hard to believe.

[@Badbufon]

@@MrZackavelli no girl sound of mind would date a creep like him, that's a huge turn off no matter how hot is he. that's what makes the whole thing weird to watch i like this explanation a whole lot, sadly it wasn't intended by the creator so it means little.

[@kolkagaming1234]

Star Wars Attack of the clones may be meh, but it’s actually my favorite Star Wars Movie ever! I loved it as a kid & I still do. It’s good because of its okay story, good character Development especially with Obi-Wan Anakin & Padme. Its introduction to the Clones was amazing it changed Star Wars forever. Mace Windu’s finally got his time to shine in this movie with his Purple Lightsaber. & the Geonosis Colosseum battle was so epic & it’s one of my favorite fight scenes ever.

[@JoeTufanoTheMovieGuy]

As much as I don't like the Anakin/Padme romance at ALL and never have, I do appreciate your analysis on the concept of them falling in love given both of their backgrounds especially with Padme. Yeah it's easy to say that "Great idea, poorly executed" but it's true though. This movie is the biggest example for me on that statement with Lucas having a great idea but accidentally stumbles into all of it minus a few aspects here and there most notably the scene of Anakin reuniting with his mother. I have to admit that your final assessment of which one is better I found somewhat validating because I would always prefer to watch the following two prequels since there's at least something somewhat engaging happening as opposed to "Phantom Menace". Looking forward to hearing your verdict on 'Revenge of the Sith"!

[@thegoldman25]

Thanks for watching!

[@dragdid]

I love that you put in a sudden and very short sound of an explosion to emphasize that it's more entertaining to have sound in space battles than without it caught me so off guard

[@thomasantrobus8261]

Been waiting on this video, love your work man keep it up. Hope you’re having a great day!

[@thegoldman25]

This comment made my day better, thank you!

[@YoRHaUnit2Babe]

I absolutely love that You use the best Synthwave tracks of the era. (and the most underrated ones)

[@kaenachoo4783]

Watching this video really made me realize how bad the prequels aged in terms of special effects. They look like crappy video games in this day and age. It’s even more sad when you compare the prequels to the Lord of the Rings trilogy, which still looks phenomenal after all these years.

[@MonkGames666]

Most of it is decent but there is some that stands out. KZbin compression doesn't help either

[@ZheadMonkey]

Palpatine wasn't trying to get Anakin and Padme to fall in love, he wanted to create an emotional crack in Anakin that he could exploit. By getting Anakin to protect Padme, her death would've caused Anakin to question himself. Palpatine knew Anakin was (at least) good friends with Padme and I suspect he had an insight to Anakins infatuation. This would clearly lead to great angush and a suitable softening up of Anakin for Palpatines nefarious intentions to manipulate.

[@Rey20171]

Once upon a time I went to a screening of this movie and when the titles words Star Wars came out someone shouted “Whooo” and someone said “Shut up”. In that same screening people were hysterical laughing at Yoda and Dookus stand off. True story.

[@thegoldman25]

i was to young to see this movie in theaters, it's on my bucket list to see all the prequels in theaters

[@russellharrell2747]

Ironically this is the only SW movie I did not see in theater first run. It was the first time I just didn’t care to see a Star Wars movie, and I don’t regret that decision. I do regret seeing Ep 9 at all, I don’t know what I was expecting when Palpy announced his return in Fortnite of all things.

[@LinkMarioSamus]

The prequel trilogy sucks because of what it does have. The sequel trilogy sucks because of what it doesn’t have.

[@bobjordan69]

My favourite prequel. Something about the overall atmosphere of it, and visually it’s gorgeous. Plus, and yes, this is a shallow point, but it gave rise to the best toys!

[@musayibghani3986]

Visually gorgeous? with respect it's mostly blue screen cg. Might be a case of different taste but I like things being practical in camera plus it being filmed on digital also hurts it is. Film stock is always superior, it's why the og still stands up today.

[@bobjordan69]

@@musayibghani3986the colour palette 👌 Just feels cohesive. I’m not a fan of the CGI-and always found the clone troopers cartoony

[@ultratankie]

There's one minor and even kinda campy change to the story that I really think could have drastically improved the plot: add a handful of evil clones that work for Dooku, alongside Jango Fett. This has a number of benefits. 1. (least importantly) *Clones* who *attack* our heroes throughout the movie do more to justify the title than a clone army coming in at the very end to save the day in the background. Plus, both of those things being the "attack of the clones" makes the name a bit more clever. 2. Elite, evil clones as minor antagonists calls back to older EU stories, in which the "clone wars" were usually implied to involve armies of insane clones who fought *against* the Jedi. More importantly, it establishes individual clones as genuinely competent fighters, which helps sell their ability to kill Jedi so effectively in the next movie. It also makes the Republic's decision to use clones at the end of this film even more obviously misguided and disturbing (something I think a lot of clone wars media likes to forget). 3. Clone villains allow the movie to get rid of the shapeshifter character, who isn't utilized well at all. This adds a little bit of extra intrigue when Obi-Wan meets Jango Fett and sees the face of someone he already killed -- or even earlier, if you have more than one clone assassin in the first act. 4. Jango Fett can literally be in multiple places at once, meaning he can keep his role in Obi-Wan's story while also appearing on Naboo to harass Anakin & Padme, adding necessary tension and stakes to their supposedly dangerous mission. 5. Exposing Anakin to Jango + the clones gives him an opportunity to learn some (but not all) of the information about the secret army, rather than Obi-Wan finding out everything and then bizarrely not acting on any of it. This way, only the audience gets all the pieces to figure out what's happened, while the Jedi are left plausibly in the dark. 6. You might think it's even more suspicious for the separatists to have a team of clones on their side -- and you wouldn't be wrong -- but there's a simple fix that also further tightens up the plot: make the Kaminoans more greedy. Instead of being loyal to the Republic for no reason, and instead of having the clone army already paid for in full, have them cynically sell clones off to the highest bidder. This not only justifies Dooku getting his hands on some, and complicates anyone's ability to know the loyalties of the real Jango Fett, but also adds an urgency to the Republic's decision to purchase and use the army -- if they don't, the other side will. Even with the Jedi harboring some unsubstantiated doubts, would anyone really take the chance on waiting things out?

[@dtxspeaks268]

Damn those are some pretty good ideas

[@PizzaMan879]

This Movie is better than the Disney Sequel trash. That’s just objectively fact.

[@Skute]

Nope, Not even kinda close

[@PizzaMan879]

@@Skute sure, keep telling yourself that Lol

[@thegoldman25]

Nopers!

[@PizzaMan879]

@@thegoldman25 Prequels > Sequels. That’s just a fact.

[@eleonorepb4565]

An other objectively fact is that you have the same level of tolerance than a dalek

[@JediPastorAaron]

I agree that Padme falling in love with Anakin makes little sense. I’m currently reading the Padme novel that leads up to episode 2 and it tries to make that work by Padme pining over Anakin for those 10 years, even going to Tatooine to try and free Shmi but not being able to find her. And the whole time, I’m just thinking, “I don’t buy this at all.”

[@ilikespoons1]

Your videos are top tier Gold Man keep it up❤

[@thegoldman25]

Thanks, will do!

[@g.ianniii5950]

What’s crazy about love, is you don’t have to understand it, if it’s there it’s there, if it isn’t then it isn’t. Can’t rationalize love as love is irrational.

[@jjttimes100]

There’s a fan theory that Anakin is so strong in the force and wants Padme so badly that he’s accidentally mind tricking her into falling in love with him. It’s nothing more than head cannon but I like it… and it makes her falling for him more believable. 21:44

[@thegoldman25]

that's borderline rape

[@jjttimes100]

@@thegoldman25amn never thought of it like that 😬 also that makes the scene when Padme asks Anakin to stop looking at her lustfully because it makes her uncomfortable and Anakin says “sorry malady” all creepy so much worse…

[@Sornemus]

2:48 Plot is: "find out who is behind an assasination attempt on Padme". Assassination attempt that was depicted in the very first scene of the film. So plot started with first scene of the film - and it was a relevant thing thorough the whole movie. Obi Wan investigated the origin of dart - this led him to Kamino - he met Django - tracked him to Jeonosis - figured out the mastermind for the assassination, but was caught and the subsequent fights are the outcome of confrontation between Jedi and separatist forces. Do you even pay attention to the film?

[@JadenWeeks]

Episode II is my favorite film of the prequel trilogy, it's just so entertaining and rewatchable.

[@thegoldman25]

super hot take, but I like it

[@JadenWeeks]

@@thegoldman25 thanks!

[@HairyHands]

emerging from the cinema with my friends on these movies' first run, my first comments were: TPM: "that was a painfully average movie" ATOTC: "looks like Star Wars is coming back" feck i'm old 💀

[@captainDJ87]

I really do enjoy the movie, my biggest gripe is act 2 should be the start of the movie

[@thegoldman25]

Interesting idea, not sure I agree

[@Sornemus]

8:28 Palpatine had no "plan". In the beginning of Phantom Menace - he wanted Nut Gunray to force Amidala to sign annexation treatment. Jedi sent by Velorum intervened in this, and escorted her to Corusant. He was actually surprised (as it was not in his plans, as evident by Darth Maul's attempt to stop them from leaving Tatooine) but quickly adapted to the situation. So he reenacted plan to allow Nabu to fight away from occupation. But the goal here was mainly to create bad PR for Velorum and then make vote of no confidence, and replace him. He achieved goal of becoming chancellor by the end of the film. Second film - he also had no "plan". He had only general goals. Here - to create full scale military conflict, thus allow for additional authorizational powers to be passed for himself. Thus move clone army into play. So that war can start, that would force Jedi on frontlines. Jeonosis battle alone wiped out two thirds of Jedi roster. Thanks to Dooku being a brilliant strategist and luring Jedi in a trap that almost worked. He achieved goal of starting the war by the end of the film. Third film - his grand goal is also achieved as a goal of this movie. He wanted for the war to disperse Jedi across galaxy, and make them dug into local conflicts, thus making them ineffective and non-observant. Then the order 66 would eliminate them all one by one. Anakin here is just a secondary bonus objective. He is used merely as a tool to efficiently eliminate so many Jedi. Specifically Mace Windu who posed an absolute threat as the most powerful Jedi master, who had all chances of defeating him in direct combat. He achieved goal of eliminating Jedi by the end of the film.

[@Chemical_Argentum]

Not only does this movie have a super cringeworthy love story that may even compete with 50 shades of Grey. It also has the absolute most ridiculous detective story ever!! “The leader of the opposition to create a military army is under assassination threat! The assassin leaves a trace which takes us to a planet that has been totally deleted from the archive! What is going on at that planet, and why is it so important to hide it? This planet is actually creating a military army, right under our nose??!! The say a Jedi master ordered this army AFTER the time when he actually died! Hmm. The host of this clone army is the assassin we’ve been looking for, and he mentioned a Tyrannus. I follow him and it turns out he works for Dooku! Can Dooku be the one that ordered the army? I mean it would make sense, cause he’d definitely be capable of removing the planet from our archives! Furthermore, he mentioned the Sith Lord we’ve been looking for actually controls the republic! He could be lying, but think of it! Palpatine has been wanting to create an army! And as soon as he got the emergency powers, he said he was gonna create an army, and then he used the one army that was started the creation 10 years back!! I got a bad feeling about.. NAAAHHHH nvm! These clones are 100% trustworthy! I’m also sure Dooku lied! We’ll ‘keep an eye’ and all of that!”

[@thegoldman25]

hahahah I wish I said what you said word for word

[@Chemical_Argentum]

@@thegoldman25 Hehe! :D I haven’t watched your video yet, since I’m not home atm! But I will later! ;)

[@Chemical_Argentum]

@@thegoldman25 Forgot to say! I did watch your video now! Very good job, man ;) And yes, you were also on the same track :D

[@fel8315]

My interpretation of the Palpatine plan situation is that he was aware Anakin had a crush on Padime, so he requested Dooku to orchestrate failed assassination attempts in order to excuse selecting Anakin and Obi-wan as her bodyguards, he was also pretty confident that one bounty Hunter whose name i forgot abt woudnt be able to kill her under the jedi protection, so he....... asked Jango to deliver that dart on porpoise???? so- so Obi would start digging up this rabbit hole Palpatine created himself and..... was pretty confident Obi was able to figure it out, and- and also- and this also would make Anakin and Padime alone on their own while Obi unfolds that mystery about the missing planet and falls on his trap on geonosis and gets captured so the Jedi come, and the army come movie done

[@chelseasmith2287]

Lol feminine audience member here: Re: your question at the 25 minute mark...nothing. I've softened on my criticisms of Christensen's performance over the years because he was doing the best with what he had. But Anakin's writing to that point just reminds me of a LOT of dudes who just sort of kept pushing themselves on me romantically despite my feelings (similar to Han in the original trilogy). Definitely suffered from a lack of outright showing why SHE was into it because I wasn't.

[@thegoldman25]

Thank you for responding to that! I totally see where you're coming from too

[@vestaarcadia]

Some notes about your plot critique: while making assumptions about Palpatine’s plan keep in mind that he is a Sith Lord, an extraordinarily powerful force wielder, he can sense emotions sharply and could probably sense the emotions anakin is going through regarding padme, anakin says “I’ve been thinking about her everyday for the last ten years” on the elevator, and given Sheevs ability he could feel this and put two and two together. Furthermore he is able to obfuscate his plans through his manipulation of the force, Yoda himself says “the dark side clouds everything.” Making obvious connections much harder to see. If one part of each plan didn’t work, other contingencies were probably in place, I can’t imagine he wouldn’t have a few fail safes, including using other methods to lure the Jedi into finding dooku and the separatists on Geonosis or finding Kamino or triggering Anakins emotions (my head canon is that he ordered anakin’s mother to be kidnapped/killed). Regarding Kamino, On paper it wasn’t sheev himself who requested the order it was technically Sifo-Dyas. Having multiple layers of protection from his plans provides plausible deniability. This allows Palestine to continue to use his greatest asset, the ability to play coy. This isn’t a defense of the deus ex machina nature of the plot though, Everything does seem to come together too easily.

[@TheChadTI]

In my twilight years (53) it's so clear this whole SW thing was really just 2 good movies from almost 50 years ago 😅 Also, great job on this video, thank you 🤙 (Ill accept half of Jedi being good)

[@thegoldman25]

Thank you for watching!

[@TheAcharyaa]

This is so true.

[@greedokenobi3855]

Best review of Attack of the Clones I’ve even watched! GREAT questions!

[@thegoldman25]

Thank you!!!!

[@ishaanbhattacharya9405]

Lucas has a great vision & lore bur he sucks in writing them which is clearly showcased in prequels.

[@thegoldman25]

couldn't agree more

[@ishaanbhattacharya9405]

@@thegoldman25 it's good to see someone agreeing wid me on this

[@Sunny_Didge_Game]

Obi Wan: But why would Master Sifo Dyas request a clone army? Yoda: Like your young Padawan, Master Dyas had premonitions (dreams) of a war in which the republic needed an army maybe to protect the Jedi Order from an unknown threat. it drove him mad (or something) If you add that scene, or a better one like it, then add something that implies that Palpatine is currently manipulating Anakins dreams, then it both explains why Sifo wanted an army, and it foreshadows how Anakins dreams will cause him to unwittingly bring about his demise like how sifos dream of a destroyed order would bring about the orders destruction. This helps Palpatines plan seem more thought out. idk if the EU explains the Sifo Dyas part.

[@kiki42719]

Not as bad as everyone says. It has some very good parts

[@thegoldman25]

true

[@agroed]

It's amazing to me how few people understand the basic plot of this movie. Nute Gunray was trying to assassinate Padme because of what happened in episode 1, it was on that condition that the Trade Federation would join the Separatists. Palpatine and Dooku want Padme out of the way because she is the leading voice of the pacifist movement resisting the creation of an army for the Republic, and because Padme is someone that Anakin is emotionally attached to. Two birds with one stone. Yes, there's a lot wrong with this movie. The Kamino saberdart deus ex machina is particularly egregious, but a lot of peoples' issues with the movie stem from not even understanding what's happening.

[@xzempty_8387]

When I was first watching Star Wars (this year), the phantom menace was the first film i disliked, but i enjoyed attack of the clones quite a lot. Over time the phantom menace grew on me to where i can enjoy it, but i still prefer attack of the clones.

[@thegoldman25]

Thoughts on the rest of the franchise!

[@xzempty_8387]

@thegoldman25 4-6 were amazing but weren't what got me into the films. But revenge of the sith was my absolute favourite by a mile and made me really interested in star wars as a whole.

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

One thing I noticed about Qui Gon is how rebellious he was against the strictness of the Jedi. He would take initiative and proceed with riske plans, relying on the force to accomplish the impossible (his faith in Anakin winning the podrace). He ignored the senates and jedi order, actively going against Yoda's refusal to train Anakin. He was a jedi who only stayed true to the will of the force and was seemingly immune to the republic's politics. Obi Wan was unfortunately a boy scout to the republic and reinforced their strictness onto Anakin, who grew resentful and this is what led him towards the dark side. It is implied Qui Gon had lived an experienced life, knowing how the rest of the galaxy functions, especially the rough, outer rim parts of the universe (Tattooine specifically). Much like Luke Skywalker, it seems that in order to become a true jedi, one must know the realities of all walks of life to truly overcome all that is hate and confusion to truly rise above it. Episodes 2-3 are all about how the Jedi failed Anakin and how Palpatine saw to take over Qui Gon's surrogate father role as an successful attempt to manipulate Anakin. Episode 1 is my second favourite prequel but 2 is equally important at showing Obi (and the republics) failure. Episode 3 is when Palpatine strikes! (My favourite of the prequel trilogy)

[@joWa3]

Before we start, I'd just like to say that this movie is flawless and I won't hear otherwise... Anyway I'm looking forward to the video x

[@thegoldman25]

enjoy!

[@raydorsey3690]

Glad to see you still making videos bro. 🤙🏾

[@axtagran7504]

Yeah I hate this movie but i understand why you find it less terrible than episode 1 I agree with almost all your points like Clone Wars Anakin being far better, the jedi being dumb dumbs and Sidious having a more confusing and contrived plan than Zemo's in Captain America Civil War With Tup's chip malfunctioning in CW S6, at least in that season after the jedi discover what happened with Sifo Dyas and the clone army's creation being orchestrated by Dooku (fixing a major plot hole that this movie forgets about) they agree that trusting the clones is not the right, but the only path. Sure I would've taken action if i was a jedi, but i can't imagine that that late in the war it would've been easy (e.g. might've caused major distress for the senate idk) Absolutely loved ur analogy on the jedi's stupidity contributing to their destruction. I'll save this for when you cover episode 3 as that intensifies this plot hole but DOOKU LITERALLY TOLD OBI-WAN WHO DARTH SIDIOUS WAS, NOT ONLY DOES THIS MAKE A CLASSIC CHARACTER FROM THE OG TRILOGY ALONG WITH THE JEDI LOOK MORE DUMB, BUT DOOKU RELIED ON THE FACT THAT THE JEDI (in the context of the movies) WERE SO INCOMPETENT THEY WOULD'NT BE ONTO SIDIOUS' IDENTITY, THUS EFFECTING THE CLONE WARS AS A WHOLE. When Sidious said everything was going as planned, I guess the jedi having a major clue on his identity and location was also part of it

[@psyched-studios9444]

To steal an idea I heard from a friend, Palpatines plan wasn’t so much a step by step approach which saw him control every aspect of the situation, rather his genius is in being opportunistic, positioning himself to pounce on mistakes. Just as in chess, he couldn’t know how things were going to work out, but the moves he made put him in a position to “execute order 66”

[@kdusel1991]

This movie is still my least favorite star wars prequel movie.

[@thegoldman25]

A lot of people agree with you

[@kdusel1991]

​​@@thegoldman25ROTS is still the best prequel. Though this one did give us some decent meme moments and the clone wars!

[@8Smoker8]

Best SW main line movie. I'll fight anyone and everyone, bring it. About the Jedi "doing it to themselves", I think you would have grown complacent too after a THOUSAND years of peace on the Sith front. They may be aware there is a Sith Lord but they don't even remotely understand what it means. They don't think it could be Palpatine because they think they would feel such a powerful dark side user in the Force when in the same room or on the same planet. Palpy's Force Cloak or w/e it's called is a huge point that isn't really explained well.

[@danielmorris113]

I still maintain Hayden Christensen is excellent in this film. The way he plays Anakin is spot on. Totally captures the all-powerful adolescent who’s been told he’s the chosen one, but has never been taught how to talk to girls 😅😅

[@scottn2046]

The Prequels are flawed masterpieces, when they're good they're very good, when they're bad, they're really bad, and Attack of the Clones is the most prequely prequel. It has moments of brilliance, especially visually,(that speeder bike scene, young Boba with Jango's helmet) but when it's cringe worthy it's borderline unwatchable. I think the flaws of the Phantom Menace are less bad, it has a less rambling story and then ending with the "Duel of the Fates" fight sequence a lot is forgiven. And so comparing them comes down to how much you like the various pros and can't Stan the various cons. Someone said George Lucas is a genius at the toughest job of writing 'big', the big ideas, themes, etc and awful at what's normally the easy writing, dialog between characters. Maybe that's why ESB and RotJ worked because Lucas took care of the big picture and other screenwriters took his vision and made it work. I just wish he'd a) fudged the numbering with a prelude Ep 0 and made 4 films and b) hired a co-writer!!

[@MrZackavelli]

It was readily established in TPM that the Naboo crisis was FAR from the first crack in the dam. Plus, Padme explains that the Military Creation Act is making the systems that are declaring independence feel threatened by the Military Creation Act, which is why she's so against it, and they're turning to commerce guilds for help.

[@slim..reaper]

I don’t care, I love the prequels. I grew up with them as I was born in ‘99. These movies are Star Wars to me. As a kid, I watched TPM and ROTS a lot but didn’t have AOTC as a dvd. So anytime I saw a poster or picture of this movie, I thought it was so epic. I saw it once at my Aunt’s house and I was in love with the arena fight and Jango and Mace and clone troopers. Everything felt so exciting and magical. I see the flaws now but I will always love all of the prequels. ROTS is genuinely my favorite Star Wars movie ever, but TPM and AOTC have a very special place in my heart.

[@HHindsight]

i dont care that you dont care

[@MrZackavelli]

Palpatine's plan always seemed fine with me. He doesn’t follow a concrete plan; he's constantly improvising and making contingencies. He sees a bright young pupil in Anakin when he gets to Coruscant, and he sees a potential asset in a boy that hasn't lived his entire life with the order, er go can be more prone to emotional manipulation. When he needs Padme out of the way to silence opposition to the Military Creation Act, why not assign Anakin to her to further foster his romantic feelings with her, which can be manipulated in the future?

[@Sphero1984]

I like that as you said "I get that people are into different things" the image is Anakin force choking Padme. Nice touch