5 THINGS I HATE!!! About my Honda CBF1000

[@TheGorillaBiker]

It's tough being so full of hatred 😂😂 Let me know what you think of my hates in the comments :)

[@saltermellon644]

After 35 years away from bikes, I have bought one of these. It’s so forgiving and has bags of power for a 56 year old bike returner! This bike is great! Also I love the quiet exhausts, doesn’t the empty can rattle the most? Cheers enjoyed your vids

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Yeah it's honestly the perfect bike for me for daily use!! I hate them, kills the sound of what is a lovely engine note :) Each to their own! Thanks :)

[@stephencartwright5046]

A really high class ramble. You started with such a focused theme and then wandered into scenery, bad drivers, bad handling, etc etc. It was very entertaining. Bikes get smaller, engines get bigger and labels become increasingly important and irksome. A bike was a bike was a bike as I remember then the race track refugees arrived and marketing changed. We are told by reviewers and marketing people what to buy, exciting, cool, rugged, we are swamped with words and things are pigeon holed for us stupid consumers. The CBF1000 is a victim of that. Be it's champion. I thought a bike was something I rode everyday, did the shopping on, went on holiday on, raced if I felt so inclined, and kept until it no longer functioned.... Don't change the bike too much.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Haha thank you :D Glad you enjoyed it. That was me really really trying to stay on topic :D I agree completely, Honestly one of the bikes I like most at the minute is the MotoGuzzi V85 TT. It's still air cooled because who really cares about high HP figures on a bike like that... I'd rather a brilliant all rounder. Agreed, I know I also do reviews but I'd always stress to people to try bikes themselves, because realistically all new bikes are incredible and I could use any of them as a daily bike!! I will sing how good a bike the CBF is from the rooftops :D Yes!!! Exactly, that's what they should and can be :) Ah I'll only change the bits I don't like :P

[@MustafaMustafa-uy5xx]

Well said. Bought one 2years ago. 2007. 75 000km. Plenty of power, torque, simple bike, super comfy, cheap, but good quality. All that i meed

[@shiftyshamsk]

Good chat. It's built to a budget. So upgrading is a personal choice. Bikes are never dull. Even a C90 I had many years ago was fun. I'm 53 and riding for 36 years and had at least 50 bikes.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Yes indeed, I do maintain though that Honda could and should have done a better job with the suspension, it was supposed to be able to carry 2 + luggage after all. I hear the new NT1100 has a similar issue. The only bike I've ever ridden that I didn't enjoy was a Deuville. But to be fair to the Deuville that one was very poorly maintained. Ah small displacement bikes are the best!!

[@FoxtrotOscar9]

Agree with brakes, mine are same, purely basic, and get use to them but Brembos they are not. Agree with suspension, wallows a little, but for a commuter it's ok. Take panniers and box off and it's a bit more fun in twisties and at speed with rear tightened up slightly. Lights are basic also but do the trick. Self service is bit tricky with the inline 4 when getting to plugs, rest is easy. It's a good all rounder. Ride safe

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Yeah, I came from very feedbacky brakes on my fazer so it was weird to start, they're fine now. I think a full set of braided brake lines and HH pads would help too but time will tell. I changed mine to a Hagon shock, made the world of difference as I don't use it only for commuting. I actually don't find the boxes a bother anyway on roads now, just needed that bit of an upgrade on the shock, I'm a bit amazed at how big a change it was! Ah I don't mind the servicing, nothing I haven't dealt with before, awkward and time consuming but better than paying for it :D You too!

[@apassionforlace]

I got my CBF1000A (orange) some 6-7 years ago. I started with 53000 and now am on 81000. I don't ride every day, but when I do, it's often 100+km. Loving every ride. Husband rides too, but this one is mine, ALL MINE!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ah very good :) I was lucky to get mine at 11k miles now it's at 25k! Very good, I find it hard to get off mine I want to just keep going :) Haha ah a bike swap is fun every now and again :)

[@apassionforlace]

@@TheGorillaBiker flipped to 82000km just this afternoon! So sunny.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I miss sun 😂

[@scootyman2974]

I changed the topbox on my CBF1000 for a smaller box and the wobble disappeared. I did have a huge Givi trekker 52 and changed to a Monolock 37 and it’s gone. There’s also something written about the front tyre, particularly about the tread having a centre line or similar but I’m not so sure that’s just someone’s opinion or not. Still love my CBF and won’t be changing anything soon. I’m 120 kgs and my girlfriend 60kgs. We went full luggage for camping around the Highlands of Scotland two years ago without problems on the suspension but I get it that it’s personal choice for add ons. Great video again, thanks

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I have the honda original one so I'd be surprised if it was due to that, I must run some tests with no box and see how it works :) The tyre is an interesting one I must check what are OE equivalent next time I'm changing them :) These ones are excellent in the dry! Oh man I loooove the bike. It's not going anywhere :) that's interesting we're about the same, maybe I just like a very firm suspension, I couldn't get used to it anyway. Also a possibility mine was shot! :) Thanks :)

[@scootyman2974]

The GorillaBiker I think the OE tyres were Bridgestone BT57 bit they weren’t rated highly by owners. I think most choose Michelin pilot road 4 or 5’s but I’m running road 2’s and never had a problem. They do take a mile or two to get warm and the handling feels very wooden until then but after that they’re great. What tyres are you running?

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ah ok, I had Road 3s on the Fazer years ago, or maybe it was the 2s...bloody excellent tyres and the 5s are supposed to be amazing!! Currently Dunlop Sportsmarts I think they're called. They''re actually very very good, feel in the wet is a bit meh though so I don't know would I recommend them for winter.

[@sfayers3361]

Regarding your final question. I have ridden and toured on a sports tourer, a Yamaha Fazer 1,000, for the last 22 years. I have switched to a BMW R1250GS for the long distance comfort, weather protection and low-mid range grunt. I'm approaching 68 years old and the Fazer's heavy clutch, bent legs, weight on wrists and getting all the winter road crap over my visor has got harder/tiring. The GS is so much more comfortable for someone my age/condition. I have a very soft spot for my Fazer, the only bike I have kept more than 4 or 5 years but all day comfort is more important to me now.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

That's the best answer I think I've ever gotten to that question, makes a lot of sense and I myself just bought a Vstrom 1000 recently, the sitty uppy position is definitely more comfortable. I do miss my CBF though!

[@sfayers3361]

@@TheGorillaBiker I still have my old faithful Fazer Thou, the most reliable bike I've had in over 50 years of motorcycling. I was looking at your CBF 1000 videos as my youngest has passed his CBT and is doing his Direct Access for a full license. He is after my tired Fazer, but a friend of mine has an immaculate 2011 CBF for sale with less than 10K on it. Less power than the Fazer's 143bhp which could be a good thing and it has ABS.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

The CBF is a very easy to ride bike, but it is still a 1000cc and weighs quite a bit. Doable, but just worth warning over :) Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more gentle than the Fazer 1000 though for sure!! Tell him congrats and best of luck with bikes :)

[@Srgthe]

A easy way to calm the speed wobble issue is to lift the front forks up a 1 or 2 mm in the yoke, that changes the way the weight is loaded. As for the brakes they may just need the fluid changing and hh pads all round.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

As in lower the front end, or raise it? It's since a lot better as I fitted a Hagon shock - it really seems to have fixed a lot of small issues with the handling. They have brand new fluid and pads, from what I can find they're just not the most feedbacky of brakes. I'll get steel lines at some point which will hopefully help.

[@johnteahan2333]

You’d imagine lengthening it would help, it will increase the rake slightly, which will dull the steering slightly. Is it softly sprung for your weight?

[@TheGorillaBiker]

They are maxxed out where they are so might it help? Yes but it's a no can do captain. Everything is too softly sprung for my weight. 😂😂

[@johnteahan2333]

@@TheGorillaBiker I didn’t want to say it but you’re right, every bike is under sprung for you 😂

[@Srgthe]

@@TheGorillaBiker aye slide the forks up into the yoke a few mm. Drop the frame down towards the front 👍

[@ciprianstanciu]

Mie had the same wobble, which got fixed once I changed both tires and to Bridgestone T31. Te wind flow sucks on it as well

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I've heard a few people say tyres can cause it too, I'll be most likely putting on Metzeler Roadtec 01s next so hopefully that sorted it. I actually don't find the air flow over the bike bad at all!

[@whoyou77]

Only thing I hate about my CBF is the pipes. Other than that perfect all round bike it’s got everything I need from touring in comfort to daily commute to Sunday ride outs. Please keep this bike a close secret to us only, if people knew how good this bike is the price would rocket up. 🤫

[@TheGorillaBiker]

The pipes are hands down the worst thing, it's why I collected the bike and literally rode straight to another shop and ordered the black widows :D Such a good engine it's a shame to silence it. Haha I'll have to stop using it in videos :P

[@mikeschap1]

Tank you for a pure & honest review, respect my man, respect.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Glad you liked it! Thanks :)

[@MichaelTaylor-td2dd]

I totaly agree ive just bought one , my last bike was tuono 1100 factory , which I loved but completely overkill for our roads , only ever used 50%of the power any more and your into killing or licence losing territory,also had a gs again overkill unless your doing off roading all the time , on the road I found boring, I think cbf will fit my bill nicely , keep up the blogs .

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ah nice! Yeah I'd love a tuono but the CBF is just more usable and can be absolutely loaded to the gills with luggage. Best of luck with it anyway :)

[@mattknitter]

Spot on mate. I've changed bars for black renthals and exhaust for black widows after the first week I bought it:) as well just changed the brake lines for the braided lines and it feels much better. Another thing is the front screen. I swap it for taller one as I'm quite tall and it works well. Great video mate.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Black renthals is how I'd like to go, or gold ones as I'm a gaudy dope at heart :D Haha I ordered the black widows the same day I bought the bike :D So the lines are worth it? That's one I'd really like to do. The screen genuinely is grand for me! :) Thanks :)

[@mattknitter]

@@TheGorillaBiker yeah it's more bite to it. I'm quite big rider so I found the original ones slightly spongy.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

@@mattknitter Just did a track day on the CBF...definitely need to improve the brakes!

[@mattknitter]

@@TheGorillaBiker nice! Where was that?

[@TheGorillaBiker]

@@mattknitter Mondello Park :) I had a great day! Definitely some things I'dike to change on it before I went again :)

[@maikh.7839]

I wonder how people say that riding a bike with over 100hp in public traffic can be boring. 😂 I'm from Germany and except on our Autobahn, I've never been able to ride the bike at its limits. I agree on the exhausts, I'm glad mine had a sports exhaust installed right from the dealer. 😂 Love your CBF1000 videos. Keep up providing us with nice videos about that superb tourer.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Yeah I have no idea. My Magna is the bike I probably have the most fun on and it's 87bhp. Ahhh I miss the autobahn, I dunno am I brave enough to ride a bike on it fast tho, the cars were ok. Yeah I ordered the black widows literally the same day I bought the bike 😂 Thanks :) I will do :)

[@richardrichard5409]

Are they 100bhp, I thought 80 odd?

[@bimblingbiffer4971]

They are all fair points. One more to add is the stock screen and the wing mirrors. Other than that I love my CBF. Safe riding

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks :) I actually like the stock screen but I'm very tall so am nicely above it. The mirrors.....I said some things about them in my first ride of the bike before I bought it :P I do absolutely love this bike though, thanks, you too!

[@OZARKSHDRIDERS]

I've had a high speed wobble before and it's pretty damn scary to lol, I think we can all pick out the good and bad with any bike, ride safe brother 💯

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Haha it's definitely not something I'd be trying to do regularly!! :D Absolutely can man, you too :)

[@OZARKSHDRIDERS]

@@TheGorillaBiker 👍🏼💯

[@Torchman92]

Oh dear. Bought my CBF used and thought there is some serious trouble becuase of the handlebar wobble. Such a relief :D Anyways good point love my bike but i agree with your points.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Haha yeah I had the same moment of panic until I looked it up :D Since I upgraded the rear suspension to something a lot firmer it hasn't actually re-appeared tbh! So that might have cured it, too early to say tho. Thanks :)

[@crimpyjugs5680]

I agree wholeheartedly with your list, I went with Hyper Pro springs front and back on mine, and have changed the bars for Renthal medium rise super bike bars, they are slightly wider than the stock bars, and for me improved the comfort (I’m 6ft).

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I've just changed the shock for a hagon and I'll get their springs next :) Oh nice!! I'll have a look at them, wider is something I'd also really really like! I'm 6'7 and the stock bars are fine size wise but wider would definitely be nicer :)

[@Francismoore-qq7pb]

Ya hit the nail on the head with everything we saw that you hated haha. Id never take anyones word for a bike unless i have ridden it myself for a feel. For those ttpes of backroads any bike could drive on it never mind a big gs. Class video👍

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks amigo :) Good!! Too many people just dislike certain bikes because of where they're made even, utter nonsense. Every manufacturer started somewhere!! Yes indeed :) Gracias :)

[@johnrocker2986]

Manufacturers shelf life for shocks is 15 to 20,000 miles about the same as chain and sprockets. The steering wobble is probably the rear damping loss of control and your a big heavy lad! But that bike aint boring, its a real useable bike and many riders would benefit by owning a good road biased machine!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Yes indeed, but this shock had only done 10800 when I got the bike and is spec'd for a big tourer so I really did expect better. It's definitely partly due to the rear but it's also a known issue with Mark 1 CBFs apparently, I did a bit of digging on forums afterwards :) But definitely every bike I'll ever own I'll need to get the suspension re-sprung for my size, it makes such a difference!! It most certainly is not boring, I love it!! :)

[@anthonyburrage6603]

Picked up my 2008 cbf1000 3 days ago. I've come from a dl650 vstrom that I loved, but someone loved it more and stole it. I'd never rode a 1000cc and I've got to say i love it. Effortless handling. It doesn't like me and the wife on it so i might be looking at new suspension.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ah nice Congrats!! :) That's not sound, I absolutely hate thieves, special place in hell for them 😤😤 I also love mine!!! Check Hagon out I got their upgrade with the remote adjust thingy and so far it's brilliant! I have the fitting video and first thoughts on it coming soon just have to edit them :)

[@anthonyburrage6603]

@@TheGorillaBiker excellent, I will look forward to it. Now Watch out for that Covid, it could be in any lane,road or field 😂🙃😉.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Hahahaha true that 😂😂😂

[@bobthebarsteward]

I had one a few years ago, I'd add the battery to the list of hates, it's too small and flattens really fast if for any reason the bike doesn't want to start.....the forums advise fitting a better one but Honda should have given us one from the start.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I haven't had any issue with my battery yet but I've heard the stock one is pretty terrible. I agree, simple things like that should really be right from factory.

[@apassionforlace]

I've had that issue too

[@davidsandle3773]

I agree with all this on my Biffer. I'm about to swap the rear shock for a cb1000r unit. I'll see how that goes. Also one more hate is the seat, too soft really. Good video and I still love my Biffer

[@TheGorillaBiker]

KZbin tells me I haven't replied to this, I did but maybe my comment didn't go through! I've heard that swap works really well, I personally got the Hagon(video coming soon) and love it so far!! The seat I've been fine with so far :) I really really like this bike too :)

[@mattknitter]

I've changed the seat for the one from Sellerie. With gel inserts. It makes a difference.

[@arnoldreynolds5183]

I enjoyed you video keep them coming. 👍

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks!

[@S_C_O_R_C_H]

Great video! I live in Canada and I have a 2011 Biffer as well, a MK2 version. Installed a single side Leo Vince exhaust (much better), I had a buffering issue with the stock windshield where the wind noise/turbulence was terrible hitting my helmet. I put 10 mm spacers behind the windshield (between the shield and the rails) to get it away from the fairing a bit and it cured that big time. Yes, the suspension is crap. A thicker oil in the forks helped it. I have the rear set to position 6 because I hate eating lettuce and it was better but not great. But overall, I love the bike, it's smooth, lots of power, stable on the highway for high speed cruising but it's a bit boring in the turns. I might try one guy's suggestion here to raise up the fork tubes a few mm and see how it feels.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks! :) Leo Vince make tasty stuff! I've heard a lot have that issue, happily hasn't affected me yet! I swapped out my shock for a Hagon, ten times better...actually more than ten time better! I'm going to change the springs in the forks too I think with a heavier oil! Oh yeah overall it's an absolute beast that sounds lovely and can carry me, a passenger and plenty of luggage...very happy with it :)

[@S_C_O_R_C_H]

@@TheGorillaBiker was it expensive for that hagon?

[@dderbyshire9735]

Got a cbf 1000 in black Myself got to say it's not the best in looks But really comfortable and you can surprise some of the so called sports bikes

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I actually really like how it looks now, it grew on me definitely tho :) Haha yes indeed. It's no slouch and I'd rather have the fairly fast speed with comfort any day :)

[@jimbobhoova6237]

Well. I have literally just picked mine up today 2008 abs model. What a bike But got to say I didn't realise how bad the Tank Slapping wobble was. Be jevus. Surely that has to be a Safety feature. My instant reaction was what the hell. So I was hoping a wheel balancing issue. I've read the Steering dampers can make it more dangerous if one doesn't tweet it to purrrrfection. But excellent videos.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

If it's that bad try changing out the head bearings, I did do that in the end to tapered roller bearings and it improved it massively, it didn't fix it completely but did improve it. Also make sure your rear spring is dialled for your weight, setting the back correctly and pushing more weight forward also helped :) Thanks!

[@PaddyOutback]

I do like that big beastie of a thing. Would be a great bike for Australia. Would munch up the long roads and fly past a road train without issue! Re the outro: It can't go off road is the reason it's not as popular as a GS. Simple as that. People want that option. Or else they have watched Long Way Round and think they want that option but then never take it off road....

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Me too :) Yeah to be honest I feel bad with it here, I mostly under utilise it, like in the videos with Kaz it was basically idling 90% of the time! :) Yeah they'll all go offroad some day tho right? :P Maybe on the next GS they buy :D

[@kazawhaki60]

@@TheGorillaBiker Lies, lies and damned lies!!! You were wringing its neck to try keep up with the Gtr that day. 🤣

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Suuuuure :P I have the footage of you riding it remember 😂😂

[@kazawhaki60]

@@TheGorillaBiker are you trying to claim the footage of me riding it made it look like a fast bike or a dull bike dull?

[@neillocke4650]

I have a MK11 and fitted the handlebars from a Deauville higher than standard.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

It's not the height is the issue. I don't like the look of them, I think I'll fit black renthal bars when I can afford it :)

[@CCitis]

There is an 08 for sale cheap near me. I am 6'5, 265 pounds. I wonder if you can still find luggage for this thing.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

AH very good! You'd be grand on it I'd say so, and I've seen a lot of custom seats done too that look amazing. You definitely can it's out there alright, might just have to go GIVI or whatever :)

[@albarytu]

That CBF is a great bike and not a dull one from any point of view All bikes have pros and cons. Here are 5 things I hate about my Rocket: the price, the fuel economy, the shitty load capacity of the bags, its lack of symmetry and the heat on my right leg at slow speeds. Still, I would 100% buy it, even being the most illogical bike ever. The GS and similar bikes have many pros. They are really very very comfy for long rides, they're easy to handle, they handle bad roads to perfection, they have lots of usually helpful electronics (heck, you can even tune the suspensions on the fly with the touch of a button), they can handle lots of cargo, they have a long range (the R1250GS Adventure comes with a 30 liter tank) and most are very reliable bikes with low maintenance and long service intervals. No surprise they're popular. Going off road is a reason but a not a very good one, I'd say 90% of the people who buy a GS doesn't ever go off road. They have their cons too, starting with the fact that they're expensive and utterly ugly.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

People are crazy tho, they look at the peak hp number and just think that means it's dull... Haha that's a special bike though....you could have 100 things you didn't like and it'd still be an incredible machine to have to ride whenever you want...I'm a little jealous :) Agree on all points, the looks is honestly my biggest thing, I don't hate how they look but I much much rather how a bike like the CBF looks. I know all the big old protective stuff has a function but still. 30 litre tank is class for touring to be fair. They're also insanely expensive when they do break!! And expensive to begin with as you say.

[@Rafael-oz8fy]

I've allways loved this bike but never got one. Now I'm about to buy a second hand one, hesitating between and ABS equiped with 57.000 miles and a none ABS one with 48.000 miles, both 15 years old. I also wonder if they are too many miles for those bikes. I'll appreciate your opinons. Thanks for the videos.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Not too many miles for either once they've been looked after. Some people swear by ABS but I think it depends on your experience and riding type. If you ride in the rain a lot it's good to have, but can't go wrong either way :)

[@MadOldBiker]

Actually just realised you are in Kilkenny..I loved it there, used to drink down the Pike..is it still there?..massive Craic !

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ah it's a grand spot in fairness, only moved home last year I was in Cork for a long time before that. Sadly the Pike the fox and hound and all that is closed a long time, Hennessey's garden centre is gone too, pretty much everything along that road is since they built the motorway.

[@davidmolloy6596]

Hi, great videos, going to undertake a front brake change thanks to your video. I have a CBF 1000, 2007. Is there a similar type bike that would suit a tall rider? I was thinking of changing it at some stage.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Good luck!! :) Yes, I currently have a 2015 Vstrom 1000 with the factory "tall" seat and it's a lovely bike I'm enjoying a lot.

[@GBMatthew07]

It's so annoying how often manufacturers skimp on suspensions I've had to upgrade nearly every single bike I've owned over the many years because of it.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

It's incredibly annoying, especially for bikes that have 2 up in mind. I will say my current bike, a 2015 Vstrom, is the best bike I've ever owned that has a fully functional shock for my weight from stock.

[@mrbmahony]

Lovely bike have you ever owned or driven a Suzuki dl 1000 and how would you compare the two .

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I test rode a few DL1000s before I bought the CBF and I picked the CBF over them. It's purely down to a usage thing, I do 99% decent road riding and also like to fastish through bends etc, I wanted the option to use it on track too. They're both great bikes just different main use cases I suppose! :)

[@Gsavell]

I think the brakes seem limp is because they are linked. I have this bike too and I love it but I find the front a little soft but might be the age, need reconditions forks maybe.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

They are definitely limp due to the way they're put together, but I think in general they're just not a strong brake. I've used the bike on track since and still think they could be a loooot better. The front forks are definitely a bit divey too, if you do rebuild them throw in some progressive springs for the road, they made a huge difference to the other bikes I used them on!

[@AscarinVin]

Actually, I like the stock exhausts, they are a lot quieter and more civilised. It's better for the part of the world I live in, which is more densely populated. I never experienced the wobble or had any complaints about the suspension, I don't ride it hard, but quite sporty, but maybe it's a weight thing with more weight on the back of the extra bars and the case? I actually drove this bike without all the options, so no lower faring or any bars or cases, which I prefer the look of, it looks more sporty and less utility. And to be honest, as a weekend bike (how I use it) all the available torque makes it so nice. You can just cruise along in towns, but really open the throttle. It's not extremely fast, but you can easily hold your own with the torque all over the rev range. Just my humble opinion! I liked the vid and I think your points are valid! I was a bit shocked by all the comments (confirmation bias, maybe?). Otherwise! Awesome bike!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Each to their own :) A few people have said they prefer them quieter but I also didn't like how they looked! I think calling the quieter exhausts more civilized isn't really true tho, the 400mm cans I fitted are still pretty quiet. I am by no means a hooligan 😂 The wobble is a well known issue once you add the top box apparently so that'd explain why you didn't get it :) I'm also a big lad! I also prefer the look without the boxes but it's my main mode of transport so I need them :) The lower fairing I do prefer the look of :) I don't see that I said anything to disagree with the torque talk? I completely agree there! That's the beauty of opinions on things like aesthetics and noise etc, you can't really be wrong seeing as each of us have valid opinions and thoughts on our bikes :) I don't think it's confirmation bias tbh, a lot of people like louder exhausts etc. I've never discouraged differing opinions on here either! I think maybe this time a lot of people who were looking up CBFs agree with me 😁 Absolutely awesome bike. As I said, I don't really hate anything on it but I was asked to make a list of the 5 worst things :)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

And that is the beauty of being able to have different choices on a bike. I maintain calling it more civilized is wrong :)

[@AscarinVin]

@@badgerman23 More roads get heavily slowed down with speed bumps etc because of noise complaints where I live. There are rules about that and I can see people complaining about that, especially on good days where everybody takes their bikes out. Maybe boring sounding, but better for keeping on riding on the roads I love! And it does matter to people who live there to have te constant sounds of loud exhaust pipes during the whole day. Not everybody is (actually, most people aren't) a petrolhead! We share the world and the roads! So yeah, boring is ok, you can call me boring, but it does matter to some!

[@AscarinVin]

@@TheGorillaBiker I didn't mean to disagree on the torque talk, just share my view. The engine is amazing! For me, sound isn't that much part of the enjoyment of riding a motorcycle, so to each their own, but for legal reasons, and how our government sees it, having more quiet exhausts would benefit every rider in our country in the end because of traffic laws. Your bike didn't sound particular loud in the video, but probably a bit louder than the stock ones, so I'm not saying at all that your a hooligan haha, just that I prefer boring to be able to have more fun. And yes, lots of people disagree with me on that!

[@TheBlueBikeDoyle]

Yeah link brakes feels goofy. I dont why on end screen question

[@TheGorillaBiker]

They do indeed!! I can't get used to them. Me neither man!!

[@hachewie]

We normal sized humans need proper human sized suspension. The bars look fine. My wife gets a fierce wobbly occasionally. She’s still a fun ride. It’s definitely no Honda Deauville. Not dull. I’m not keen on the idea of linked brakes, but I’ve never tried them.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

That we do :) Something spec'd for us properly is such a pleasure! I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate them :P Hahaha :D Screenshotted ;) In case I ever need blackmail :D No, nothing even close to one of those poor things! I just don't trust them the same as having full control over them, they're fine, but I'll never like them.

[@randommedia9]

Lovely bike, I'm surprised about what you say about the brakes as I had the 600 and the feedback was excellent, I'd have thought Honda would have achieved the same for the 1000 being stablemates (I know the parts are different) brakes was one of the 600 best features for me.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Yeah I've heard the 600s are good. Had it for over two years now and a lot of miles and they're still just meh. They work, they'll stop you, but just aren't good brakes. And I think linked brakes is a silly idea, I'll probably avoid that tech going forward.

[@randommedia9]

@@TheGorillaBiker Yes of course, the link brakes, that will be it, gotta say not appealing to me either.

[@richardrichard5409]

I've read these wobble on the over run even with a light grip on the bars......having owned another Honda with a similar issue, I'll go Suzuki yet again. 😎

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I've never felt any wobble with my hands on the bars. I've also recently fixed it with new headstock bearings, tapered roller bearings rather than the stock ball bearings. Simple fix really. I've ridden a lot of different bikes and have never noticed it on anything else, I also own 3 Hondas :D

[@richardrichard5409]

@@TheGorillaBiker thanks for the reply, glad yours is fixed. I've read that even some new ones had the wobbles.....seems some do, some don't then👍😎

[@seanmullins4945]

Hi mate, I know it's a bit late don't know if your even going to see this, but I've just purchased a CBF 1000. Can I ask what brand is your gear rack on the back of your bike. I've been looking for a while and can't find one I like but the one you have is awesawesome.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I see everything. :D Just messing I miss a heap of stuff sadly. Mine is actually the original Honda racking system which is very tasty to be fair, not sure how you'd fare looking for it now but check on cmsnl.com. If you can't find it there then have a look here www.hepco-becker.de/en/meinbike/honda/cbf-1000 not as tasty as the original but they make great stuff too.

[@seanmullins4945]

@@TheGorillaBiker thanks mate keep up the good work.

[@HippoDrones]

Is always interesting to hear what folk dislike about the bike they chose to own, as they are not deal breakers, but are still annoyances, it gives potential buyers a warning of them and other owners can also share tips on how they got around those issues! :-) Regarding the big ADV bikes and demise of the Sports-Tourers, I guess it is partially an emissions thing, but most likely, not enough people handed over cash for them so the ADV bikes took over being a bit more comfortable possibly... and "The Long Way Round" happened! :D

[@TheGorillaBiker]

True I suppose! I think most of the people who asked for this video were genuinely interested in what annoys me too so it was a fun one to do :) Yeah I think you're right, it's an odd one though I think it might just be reputation too as the likes of the FJR is still sold very well etc, the CBF to my mind is a better version, slower in a straight line yes, but far far more agile and light :) We'll do a bike swap and you'll see :) And I'll run away with the guzzi 😂😂

[@HippoDrones]

@@TheGorillaBiker haha, I'll load the panniers with lead 🤣

[@TheGorillaBiker]

It won't stop me 😁😁😁😬

[@HippoDrones]

@@TheGorillaBiker 😁

[@coolhandchunk]

I havent experienced any tank slappers or instability on my MK2. Did Honda address this issue and change up the geometry? Can you provide details on what rear shock you end up going with??? I ride 2-up on mine all the time and am needing to upgrade as well.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Not 100% sure did they bit It was a known and vocal issue early on so I'd imagine they did. Yeah I got a Hagon with a remote reservoir so easy swapping between 1 up and 2 up riding. I have an install video on it too :)

[@theanalyticsproject1014]

What about the lower fairings? I have just got the same bike and hate the lower fairings. I don't know if mine are the exact same as yours though. Mine are coming off!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I don't know was it in this video or another I said it, but I wouldn't have bought the bike without the lower fairings. To me it looks too much like a few other bikes without them and just never caught my eye. Each to their own tho!

[@Shortbikerblondie]

Good list 🙂

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks!

[@bikerbabiuk3613]

I still love my cbf 😂😂 Thinkin to swap to crf 1000 ,but hate to go. Can you give me the link of your new shock mate

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Haha don't worry I still loooove my CBF, as I said in the video someone asked me for my hates but they're more like minor inconveniences :P Here you go! Just tell them I sent you :) www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/catalog/partdetail.aspx?partno=M61083H

[@jonor95]

Great info👍. quick question. First bike as a 40 year old novice. Mt-07 or hornet 600cc? Thanks

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks. MT07 hands down, way more usable torque. The Hornet is also an excellent bike but it's power band is much higher up the revs. Both are fairly quick machines though so whatever you do go for take it handy :)

[@jonor95]

Your bike rocks. But have to wait for full licence first. I'd be riding now but this covid craic is making it hard with ibt training and theroy tests all postponed. Cant wait till next year🏍🏍🏍

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks! It's a brilliant yoke in fairness and the 1000cc gets rid of a lot of the revvy 4 cylinder 600cc issues that the hornet has, well not issues, just less daily usable! Ah so many are the same it's an absolute nightmare! Hopefully it's all sorted by January

[@WhiteMeganes]

What exactly is with the suspension? I couldn’t quite understand (too soft, too firm? I have not ridden this bike before, it’s a genuine question)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Too soft. Like it was sprung too softly for me but also my buddy who is a lot smaller and lighter than me, it was so bad it meant you had to lean the bike to the right to get the side stand down it was sagging so much. Just a bad shock.

[@WhiteMeganes]

@@TheGorillaBiker What a quick reply! Very informative, thank you! I’m subscribing

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Thanks!

[@aGentleUser]

The hate is not that strong in you ;) I am thinking of getting sth more powerful then mine. These CBF are quite cheap right now, even bikes without ABS are often more expensive. But many 4cylinder bikes I rode, although performing nice, just did not feel that emotional to me. New CB650 - when you feel the power starts to kick in you are already faster then allowed. Or you drive it in high rpm range which sounds just annoying to me. CB1300S - the power is delivered so smoothly, i didn#t even notice I was that fast. Nice bike, excellent cruiser, but somehow i just didn't feel entertained. Why so torquee and no 6th gear?? CB900 Hornet (919) - oh ... that felt awesome. It even scared me a little when i demanded more power ... and got it :D but the lack of ABS and the prices for these old bikes feel just not adequate. Loved the sound of the original exhaust, sometimes less is more. My NC ... well not really that fast. However when I shift a lot to keep it in the sweet spot it doesnt perform that bad on the narrow side roads. This is surprisingly entertaining for me, but sometimes more power would be nice. I think for travelling the CBF1000 would make completely sense, but I fear it might be not that performing on the fun and emotion part.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Haha I'm not a hateful person what can I say :D Yeah you can pick CBFs up for very good money at the moment in places, which is mad as they're honestly brilliant! ABS is not brilliant so that makes more sense :D Were they stock exhausts? This bike was kinda boring until I changed mine. Now it's awesome. Yeah a lot of bikes like that can be too fast for some roads gearing wise, but you can always re gear them if you want to accelerate faster but go slower. Older style gearbox is all and space, sometimes more torque makes it harder to add more gears as due to the space the gears in a 6 speed would then be too weak. I don't like ABS tbh, I much prefer my bikes braking feel without ABS. I don't like stock exhausts ever so far, I've yet to find one I don't want to change :D The 919 is a brilliant bike. I've ridden an NC, great bike no doubt but wouldn't be for me. I prefer something a little bit more powerful too :) I can tell you that the CBF with a good exhaust is plenty fun and emotional on good roads :) I've ridden this a lot at this point and absolutely love it :)

[@Jake-pd6ct]

Jumping on the bandwagon that every irish vlogger does I see :P You hate that suspension but ooooh do I love that beard When you get rid of the bars you should give them to me. Or do a giveaway (that is geared towards me winning) It's not a dull bike, I bet it can do wheelies I'll give the CBF a test ride when I steal it from you, paint a suzuki livery on it, then return it without saying a word. I will never subscribe to your channel and I will never like any of your videos GS is the bike I'm getting when I get all old and unable to ride sport bikes anymore. The big GS, too. I'm not a fan of the way the CBF looks and the GS with nobbly tires is just sex LOOKING FORWARD TO SATURDAY

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Haha people were asking me to do them believe it or not! Plus people actually watch these ones :( Meh I'd like to grow it yuge but Toaster won't me :'( Haha they'll be hung on a wall :P You can claim them if you like! It can...don't ask how I know. Definitely need to change the springs in the forks tho... Hahaha that's look silly :P Please though? :'( The CBF is faster, I'll beat you on the track when you're old and such!! 6pm, probably won't premiere this time!

[@vetoevo]

Wobble on the handlebars when decelerating is bad front wheel balance. Get the front balanced and the wobble will go away!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Generally yes, but I had the same wobble across 6 front tyres, all balanced. The only thing that seemed to fix it was raising the back of the bike a bit, I also changed the head bearings to tapered roller bearings.

[@scottastell9415]

Value for money second hand as these are old enough now for most things to be sorted by owners.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

There's very little that goes wrong anyway tbh so that was never a major concern.

[@RHauto]

The boxer in the gs would be my reasoning gs>cbf :P I'd guess the gs is just such a popular bike, people buy them for the name alone, they don't even know what a cbf is.. haha

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Haha the boxer is fine but we both know a screamy inline 4 is no slouch 😁😁 Yeah true it's just so well publicised. I WILL BRING THE NAME OF CBF TO THE WORLD!! 😂😂

[@BryTheBiker]

#6 has two extra cylinders

[@TheGorillaBiker]

You are incorrect sir :P It has the correct amount just in the wrong configuration :D

[@rumien1383]

Why on earth would you be taking your hands off the handle bars?

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Well you wouldn't very often, maybe almost never, that's why I said its not really an issue. That said whether you should or shouldn't do that, what definitely shouldn't happen is the violent shaking of the handle bars if you do

[@rumien1383]

@@TheGorillaBiker I bought one of these last week. Smooth as silk, compared to my GS. Absolutely love it. I’m enjoying your videos on it as well. They’ll be a big help with maintenance. 🍺

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Ah congrats! I absolutely love mine. Well I hope you don't have to do what I did with the rear wheel bearing but very happy they help :)

[@I_hunt_lolis]

I hate the looks. It looks like every other bike. Then again I don't like touring bikes. Problem is there is very little to choose from where I live and these usually are in better condition cause older folks tend to drive them...

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I personally think it's one of the better looking touring bikes out there, I really loved my CBF and miss it. Look at most other sports tourers out there and quite a few are frumpy looking which is sad. Hey I'd bet if you got one you wouldn't regret it once you rode it :) Uninspiring looks we'll say :P

[@I_hunt_lolis]

@@TheGorillaBiker Compared to those big touring oriented bikes this looks better yes, this still has some sportiness, maybe more of a city+touring bike. The thing is I'm not a fan of the half fairing looks, hell i like CBF600N with round headlight and clocks more than the faired one, I like the twin exhausts on the back of 1000 tho. I like bikes like Suzuki GSX 1400, brute of a muscle bike. Too bad there is none in my tiny country. Test roade a couple of Yamaha XJR 1300 and loved it, too bad none of them are in as good condition as CBF1000s and cost very similar with high mileage. No Honda CB 1300 or CB 1100 EX either. Don't really want to travel to Germany to buy an older bike. I'll probably end up getting the CBF1000 as there is one from Germany is really good condition in my city. Let this be the more practical bike with boxes and stuff and maybe in the future I'll secretly get some less practical bike from Germany as something more of a fun weekend bike. Maybe one of them older muscle bikes or Suzuki GSX-S1000Z that I ended up liking for whatever reason. I lived in UK before and there were 100s examples to choose from of a single model and now it's painful that here I have to choose from what's available and not what I truly want. Then again people say don't overthink your first bike. I'll probably end up leaving the CBF for my father later as he is the one that mostly wants it as neighbours have one and he sat on it and liked it, "good quality item" as he called it. Also the more boxes a bike has the more he likes it lol

[@Land-Shark]

Answering you outro cuestión will ruin an upcoming motovlog I have planned for when I get my new bike :) I will only say: if an ADV bike rider rides 10,000-miles a year, with only 10% of it being on dirt/gravel roads and light off road riding, that is still 1,000-miles a year of riding on dirt/gravel that no sport bike, or sport tourer, should ever go through, much less when the bumps & holes get taller & deeper than 12cm. :)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Haha keep it secret then my friend :) That's a fair point!! For me and my available options I just felt the more road focussed bike was the correct choice for my daily work riding, I'd say I'm closer to 95% decent roads and only 5% offroady/crappy roads! But yes, very good point :)

[@Land-Shark]

@@TheGorillaBiker I had to do a LOT of soul-searching when deciding about which genre of bike I want this time. I LOVE sport bikes, and I especially love big sport tourers, and giving up the thrills and road luxury they can provide has me always second-guessing my decision. That's why I've delayed finishing the editing of my final ZX-14R motovlog: it might make me change my mind! :)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Well even if when you do get your new bike and do edit that last motovlog, you could always change it again in the future :) No harm in trying somehting even if it might not work out, we can't make the right decision every time! :P Either way it'll be a bike adventure, I can't wait to see what you've gotten :)

[@st3rg]

suspension is cheap and needs upgrading timing chain tensioner needs replacing every 20000 klm cheap head bearings need tappered ones other than that worth having toured and commuted for 60.000kms not many things gone wrong

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I've since done the whole suspension setup and changed the head bearings, they all suck stock. Not had an issue with the tensioner and mine now has 38000km on it. Brilliant bike at it's heart though.

[@circleworks1510]

"a dull bike is something that doesn't have power" i think you'll need to change this definition mate. even 125s can be exciting on the right roads

[@TheGorillaBiker]

My very first statement as part of that sentence was somthing you can't go have fun on backroads on. Think I covered that section Of bikes there tbh. Also I was taking about this bike, in my head it was a bike of that size....which would be dull as all hell with no power. I like bikes with a bit of acceleration personally. I'd have a Vmax if I could afford it.

[@arnoldreynolds5183]

One real feck of a job is changing the bulbs in the front .

[@TheGorillaBiker]

To be honest now that I've had the front fairing off a few times I'd just take the entire thing off to change them

[@martinchandler9469]

The wobble gets discussed a LOT - it can be caused by tyres obviously (Road 5's are amazing on this bike..as I just found out) but a key issue is the topbox. Mine gets wobble when I have the topbox on and sometimes when I just have panniers, with no topbox, but panniers are unevenly weighted. Take all that off and I can (and have..in training) ride hands free, no issue (not on public roads officer). You can mitigate it a little by adjusting the shock but generally...it seems like it's just really sensitive to rear weight.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Indeed it does. To be honest I'd say it is the topbox/weight on the back as you say. I've not had it with them off whereas with the topbox on I can feel it was to start even if I sort of let go. To be honest it's really a non issue for me as I don't really NEED to let go. It'd just be nice to not have to think about it at all yano :)

[@martinchandler9469]

@@TheGorillaBiker Yeah I know.....it's that faint tickle of a worry about it at the back of your head isn't it? Bothers me too - but like you say, not really an issue unless you plan on riding hands free. The instructor on the training course I went on, where we were doing just that, said something like a third of the CBFs suffered wobble, even without the topbox but almost all of them did with it on. I like to think of it as a quirk :)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Exactly that, a very small tickle but it's there all the same! That's it really it's more a quirk than anything else. It's a brilliant bike and if that and the stator is all that may be wrong or go wrong the I won't be complaining :)

[@hachewie]

I’m uncertain an adventure bike is for me but I like riding on dirt roads. Hmmmmm.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I want a Moto Guzzi V85 TT.....that'd be perfect for me :D

[@hachewie]

@WEB asdasd Hmmmmm. Maybe.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I'd love a scrambler

[@hachewie]

@@TheGorillaBiker hahahahaha. You are a tragic. Big luv big man.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I know 😭😭😭 I may need therapy. Via all of the bikes

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

Those are very legitimate things to dislike mate.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I even thought hard about making the video, all of it is fixable and I don't like just slating things, so thanks man glad to hear you think so, much appreciated :)

[@motopetefun]

You obviously bought wrong bike, CBF is what it is! You should have go for Kawasaki z1000sx. I have cbf1000 as a work horse it’s a good bike but it runs out of its limits very easily but that’s why it’s bike for relaxing rides. If you want to have spirited riding get different bike!

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I definitely didn't :D As I said I only made this as people asked what I didn't like, I love the bike and wouldn't be mad on the Z1000SX anyway! The CBF is plenty fast enough for everything I'll be using it for, plus I know of a few track head instructors used to use them for lessons and said they're quick on track too. I have a GSXR 750 SRAD for the sportier stuff anyway!

[@richardrichard5409]

So the suspension is bad but, you don't say in what way? 😎

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Waaaaaaaay too soft, and low, the side stand wasnt usable without leaning the bike to the right on the stock suspension. And this apparently wasn't just mine was goosed. It's a bad stock suspension.

[@richardrichard5409]

@@TheGorillaBiker lovely, just how I like my suspension, I use my bikes for touring not track days😎

[@MadOldBiker]

I didn't hit the subscribe button until you said you like to spout your annoying opinion ....plus I miss the accent and being home in Dublin, maybe I will come over there on my CBF later in the year..meet up for a pint of Guinness! - thanks for your points mate..well done and good vid..

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Interesting, so you enjoy torturing yourself then, important information :D How long have you been gone for? Ah yeah I must get back across to Wales and England at some point on the bike too, Scotland was knocked off the list for this year, Guinness wasn't bad there either in fairness! Sound! :)

[@EugeneShaposhnikov]

The only thing to hate about cbf1000 is the fact that it is no longer produced

[@TheGorillaBiker]

That's another for the list for sure. I disagree tho, just after ticking over 12,000 miles on it and I have some gripes still :D Brilliant bikes and I absolutely love it but my points on the brakes and suspension stands especially. They should have come with more capable suspension especially imo. Don't even get me started on that stock exhaust :P

[@EugeneShaposhnikov]

@@TheGorillaBiker maybe 2nd version was better on that matter. Hope there will be 3rd...

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I hope so, the NT1100 is a weird one...I hope they haven't just treated that as a catch all and rolled any possible CBF in to that release.

[@EugeneShaposhnikov]

@@TheGorillaBiker I am not tall enough for tour enduro bikes which are very popular lately. (

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Hey never say never you could always give one a go and maybe adjust to it :)

[@stanallen1072]

The thing I hate about the Honda CBF1000 is that it isn't available in the USA.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I know, I wish I could have brought mine with me but it was too much hassle.

[@genxkevin]

There’s only one solution ... join me and the dark side, order the 2021 CB1000R black edition lol

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Hahaha I would if I had the money for one. I however, do not 😂

[@avulonanderson2372]

Hate the look of the bars, hate the look of the silencers, love the look of all the scaffolding and box on the back??? wtf? rofl. Any bike with a topbox looks shite.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Yep. I do and changed the silencers already due to that, the bars will be done too in time! It's mad that some people feel differently about things isn't it 😂 I use my bike for everything, a top box is a necessity.

[@kikirider6643]

You should have go for 6 aswell: It's a honda :))))))))))))))))

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Hahaha I would prefer a Yamaha :P

[@supersaiyanollie]

Oh no, it's not going to rust, it's reliable, it's not as easy to steal as a triumph... ;-)

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Hahahahaha I now own three Honda's so they must be doing something right 😂😂

[@kikirider6643]

@@TheGorillaBiker owing more honda's, that means that they break often, so you have spares :))))))

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

Nothing I hate about my ZZR1400..

[@TheGorillaBiker]

A bike I hope to own at some point tbh! Even though last time I was on one it hurt my shitty hip. I don't actually hate anything reaaaaaaally about the CBF, anything that annoys me I fixed/will fix. I have yet to see a bike I think is perfect for me off the bat, but I like tinkering :)

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@TheGorillaBiker I'm not a tinkerer...however, as much as I love the big Kwak the best bike I have ever owned was a Honda NC750DCT. Incredible machine.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

I can't leave things alone when if they're grand. Oh really? I've never ridden an NC750 but I'd like to. Could never get a proper feel for DCT

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@TheGorillaBiker I test rode a VFR1200DCT and hated it, but the DCT is ideal for the NC750. I ran the bike for economy reasons and it regularly returned 100mpg.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

That's actually the exact model I did get to try, really didn't get on with it. Whoooaaa that's incredible. I definitely need to try one

[@TES99911]

Not enough hp.

[@TheGorillaBiker]

It's a fair argument but I haven't found it lacking in actual usable power yet....I would like to tune it tho and see can I get a bit extra, sacrificing fuel economy to the gods of power is fine by me 😂

[@mickaels1540]

La traduction de KZbin est horrible 🤮

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Désolé mon pote, je ne savais pas qu'ils étaient si mauvais

[@goranromersombor5923]

Cbf1000 is trash

[@TheGorillaBiker]

You are incredibly wrong imo 😂