What Races Could Still Get Another DLC? - Total War Warhammer 3

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[@TheGreatBookofGrudges]

Giveaway linked in description! Looking towards the potential far future here but a friend gave me this idea when he asked if there was a lot left in Warhammer Fantasy and there is a fair amount hasn't covered obviosly. Now this depends if the game is still very porfitable for them and their agreement with GW but I could see this lasting a long time, I just hope it's not 8 months per DLC cos the drought is very obvious. P.S Ogres, Khorne and Greenskins are listed as one DLC cos the due to be released DLC isn't out yet! P.P.S my weekly schedule should return to normal now. Been busy taking care of my grandfather which means less time at the PC. But he's doing better now :)

[@Garret007]

Good video, my only sidenote would be, based on the named tiers, I think Daniel's faction would belong into the "No DLC but attached to others category" :p

[@marvinvasquez9437]

Well, there races have been mentioned in the game, we have Ind, Nippon, Araby, Tilea, Albion, and minor races have also mentioned

[@favillionbellarion9655]

The Norscas sadly eating bananas in the corner.

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

I think the biggest issue with Norsca at the moment is that they're Warriors of Chaos lite (with monsters).

[@christiandauz3742]

Kurgan Horse Archers plus Lores of Tzeentch, Nurgle and Slaanesh would add versatility

[@halwakka504]

Frozen bananas are delicous.

[@spreddable]

@@halwakka504 you've just reminded me of a snack we used to have as kids! Frozen bananas with melted chocolate! Then you can put anything you like on it while the chocolate is liquid still like sprinkles or nuts! So good!

[@halwakka504]

@@spreddable Sounds good. Lucky Norscas!

[@dairewoods2544]

I never understood the statement that bretonnia can't get paid dlc because they were a free dlc. That's like saying the base game factions can't get anything cause they also came free once you bought the game. Bretonna have the same requirement to play as any base faction you have to buy the game.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

Vampires Counts, Vampire Coast, Cathay, High Elves, Tomb Kings. Vamps could use massive reworks to different parts of their everything, Cathay has a lot of room to expand, High Elves have at least one more DLC, and Tomb Kings cries for a certain scarabmaster.

[@teoarrk]

Pipe dream here, but the game could also use a storm of magic dlc, based on the supplement of the same name.

[@MarineCARMINE]

Norsca should be in your list.

[@Weberkooks]

Don't think cathay needs anything... HE/DE need one

[@TheFrokka]

@@Weberkooks Any missing DE units other than characters?

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

@@MarineCARMINE ooh fair point. I guess they slipped my mind because IDK WHAT to do with them.

[@mrhelzbygrad7485]

I will never understand the weird decision to remove Ungols from the Kislev faction. The opportunity to develop the setting by adding units inspired by Tatar and Cossack light cavalry, you would think that displaying / representing more cultures would be in a corporations agenda to be representative. But I agree, sadly Kislev don't seem likely to get any more.

[@lekonbtw3380]

Or maybe they are saving them up for a potential DLC option right? Why would they give away free units when they can just give it to you as something new, from a corporate perspective ofcourse.

[@malice9830]

Thats y theres a thing called steam workshop mod for kislev unit packs

[@mrhelzbygrad7485]

@@malice9830 I love motherland

[@Drakenn100]

@@lekonbtw3380 Because Ukrain war. Ungol vs Gospodar sounds like Ukranians vs Russians as ungols are inspired by old ukranian cossaks, that's why they killed that part of kislev's culture and made oztankya into the most boring version of herself they could have imagined. We'll never get anything ungol related, which means no ancien widow form/ancien widow monster. Kislev died as a dual culture and interesting race the day the war in Ukrain started, because GW is lead by braindead corpo morons.

[@pogo8050]

@@Drakenn100tf did I just read lol. Ungols are based on nomadic tribes not Cossacks. And of course CA has to proceed with caution when there is an ongoing war in the region they are taking inspiration from. It’s so obvious it’s beyond having to make analogies.

[@bluemilkalienmonster522]

I hope that’s not true about Kislev. I feel like they can get 1 more DLC. Nyvena as the LL, Sasha Fyodorovich Kajetan as the LH, a great patriarch generic lord, an Ungol hybrid ranged and duelist melee generic hero, the frostfiend, Ungol units, and maybe 1 or 2 other units based on Slavic mythology. Create a magic forest settlement in Kislev to bring Mother Ostankya back into, maybe move Boris Ursus somewhere else in the Northern Chaos Wastes, and have Nyvena start in Norsca because he’s taking the fight to them, or something.

[@leolinguini260]

Can we please push for non-playable unique characters? Like Boris or the Red Duke. So you basically get a unique model and 1-2 unique skills for each elector count, or for various orc clan leaders.

[@darthnihilus6211]

A "they are unique, but you have to Confederate them first" Would be enough, and CA wouldn't need to code an entire new campaign for them.

[@leolinguini260]

@@darthnihilus6211 Exactly

[@mk_gamíng0609]

Vcounts Not only is the age showing mechanics wise, but a big part of VC is not there, the culture the different vampires are very different

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

@mk_gamíng0609 redo the tech tree entirely but lock some techs behind blood kisses, just like nurgle does with infections. Replace hardcapped bloodline lords with making bloodline lords the equivalent of high elf intruige-cost lords. Maybe even make all vamp lords bloodkiss-costed but better lords have higher costs. Copy the bel'akor corruption mechanic to steal generic lords from enemy factions, but only on human and maybe chaos generic lords. And that's not even touching units.

[@swampselkie]

It's weird to me that there seems to be such a strong consensus that Wood Elves won't get more attention. They have an absolutely tiny core roster in game right now, and still have a decent amount of content that could be added, including several 8th edition elements (Araloth, shadowdancers, ranged (strangleroot) treemen, hunting hounds), plus some cool 5th edition stuff (Naieth, beastmasters, shapechangers) and the possibility of loreful non-army-book units (naiads, etc.). There just doesn't seem to be a lot of love for them, sadly.

[@Orionzeus05]

Bro, exactly! Araloth as a pure non-monster wood elf LL who buffs other wood elf melee units with the shadowdancer hero would be incredible to round off their weaker elven melee side of things. Add Daith, Naieth, maybe Atolmis as an Orion buff hero, and some beast master anti cav hound units and we're cooking for heroes. I think I'd cry tears of purest joy if they expanded bretonnia and Athel Loren to even half the size of the wood elves mini campaign map. Adding at least the textures and one or two more settlements to Athel Loren to really capture the eternal seasons vibe of specific realms just for flavor would be absolutely legit. Being able to recruit unique ice and fire wood spirit units and magically augmented base fighting units to reflect the region they were recruited from would also be amazing. Atylwyth, the winter realm; Arannoc the Summerstrand; Modryn the Night Glens. If the High Elves can have all of Ulthuan, the dwarfs all the mountains, and the Empire a quarter of the world, let Bretonnia have its dukedoms and Athel Loren its high realms! - A Wood Elf Stan

[@honorecocquyt6006]

Maybe they can have a big 3 way DLC with High Elves, Wood Elves vs Slaanesh or just a big elf dlc with everything

[@villy3508]

​@@honorecocquyt6006 i think this is likely, lothern sky cutters, Araloth, and ShadowBlade, elves are still missing a core amount of things, especially shadowblade.... Hes a fan fav, and i need Araloth as a wood elf player, i wish they implemented some kind of rule like from tabletop where they get to place a free patch of forest down before deployment lol

[@mansfield360]

Man I won’t lie there’s like 20 elf lords. Wood elves are alright but we really don’t need 7 dark elves and 7 high elves. I’d rather get another rat.

[@Orionzeus05]

@@mansfield360 Here's waiting for that Thanquol run, mod or no mod, that shit is going to be fire. I think having a sole spellcaster LL and a pure melee infantry buff LL for the wood elves would complete their roster. They don't have a Teclis or a Tyrion like Lord that focuses purely on spellcasting or infantry. Orion is mainly a cavalry/archer buff with the wild riders and ambush bonuses, I think ideally getting a LL spellweaver like Naieth and a LL glade lord like Araloth either as FLC when they do the Slaanesh v Elves dlc module or as a mini dlc would be clutch.

[@AForgottenTome]

Bretonnia deserve more than just some free content personally. I think they need a higher tier unit of archers, and the ability to dismount before battle and/or recruit foot knights.

[@swampselkie]

Agreed. Foot-knights would be great. I'd love to see Bertrand's sneaky skirmishing archers, perhaps as part of a proper Bretonnian brigand faction. Alternatively, Sons of Bretonnia on kelpies could offer another direction.

[@cameronmcindoe6119]

Kislev's last dlc definitely felt weird unit choice wise. CA might have struggled for ostankiya units because they set a lot of Dazh and Tor themed units side for a Patriarchy themed DLC. Currently there are only Ursen themed stuff in game at the moment.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

@cameronmcindoe6119 I'm all for more Kislev. The question is where would they start?

[@cameronmcindoe6119]

@@johnj.spurgin7037 no clue, realm of chaos campaign, I guess either near cathay for something different or near kostaltyn for a patriarchy themed starting alliance?

[@Shimatzu95]

I realy hope nagash is just daniel for undead and comes with a champion of chaos style dlc adding units to all of the undead races.

[@assman-69]

Yes I think that would work best.

[@wolfspider2six584]

Slaanesh was robbery. I'm still hoping for that Dlc. I want more for high elves, dark elves

[@vshark7869]

The only problem is it’s just taking waaayyyy tooo long for dlcs to come out.

[@SiodogRehane]

Yep and they don't add much replayability unless they add and restore mechanics like ruins exploration or something playerbase will be lower and lower

[@SilentSpringzzz]

Kinda want more a interactive map overhaul. More. Stuff to explore and conquer kinda stuff like heroes if might and magic stuff on the map. No name mercs armies on the map for early and late to kill for money,gear or temp buffs. Just more stuff to do then just units only with some faction mechanics.

[@tominieminen66]

Hell no. Completely disagree, I would rather wait five years for a good DLC than them rushing new ones out. The frequency does not matter, only quality. Good things are always worth the wait. Meanwhile while waiting for them you can enjoy other things in life.

[@vshark7869]

@@tominieminen66 the longer a dlc takes to release, the less people will buy and play it, cascading into less dlc. The converse is true too. I just think a dlc every 3 months is good

[@tominieminen66]

@@vshark7869 Bad DLC is worse, Shadow of Change was a major blow for WG

[@RatchildUK]

Counts, Coast, Norsca, Tomb Kings, Kislev and Bretonnia need a DLC. Dark Elves and Lizardmen need a free rework

[@Orionzeus05]

I'd be shocked if Wood Elves didn't get Araloth, his model is one of the most recognizable and best amongst the miniatures outside of Durthu. I'd love for them to expand Bretonnia, Tilea, and Athel Loren and reduce the wasted inaccessible space in the far east part of the global map. Bretonnia has a duke for every kingdom like the empire has an elector count so a character pack and added regiments of renown and rework would go well for them to flesh out and give distinct character to the dukedoms, especially since they were the literal first race released for The Old World. As for the Wood elves they could still do Araloth as the endtimes DLC LL for the faction with Daith and Naieth the Prophetess as either lords or heroes. They could even add Atolmis as an Orion specific hero. They're mostly missing from the tabletop Araloth, the Shadowdancer hero, warrior kinbands, and Beastmasters. Make Araloth the LL who buffs specifically the eternal guard, bladesingers, and wardancers and make him the sole true wood elf LL lord would balance everything nicely with some Coeddill like heroes in Naieth and Daith in addition to the shadow dancer as a DPS fighter who buffs other bladesinger units, and then add kin bands as high elf ranger equivalents and a map expansion of athel loren to incorporate TW1 athel loren mini campaign map regions and aesthetics alongside a bretonnian map expansion and that would be a pretty great DLC. Elven units outside of archers and cavalry are pretty lackluster, so giving them a LL (Araloth) and LH (Daith) and a shadowdancer alongisde Naeith to buff them and expand the story would do great theings for that faction. Hell, with all the love the dwarves got, you can basically do the same for nearly every faction if they wanted to, but specifically Bretonnia and the Empire can have a lot of sub factions and elector counts/dukes added in diversity of starting positions and playstyles

[@arnauddelaclos3221]

Bretonia CAN have a Dlc

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

If they're free they're base game as far as I'm concerned

[@josephquinnswolin3500]

Kislev needs another artillery piece little from ain't cutting it.

[@jonasfull]

Ind and Khuresh races could get a Dlc

[@lucienfournier5399]

These factions will never come.

[@jonasfull]

@@lucienfournier5399 not with that atttitude

[@lucienfournier5399]

@@jonasfull There is so much content to add for the faction already in the game

[@jonasfull]

@@lucienfournier5399 I think all the current factions are good as they are, not a single one isnt fun as they are right now except for maybe ogres but theyre getting a fix next dlc. In my opinion they shouldnt do any more dlcs for any of these factions ever again, they perform well, they are fun on the campaign and stuff like more lords or units dont really matter

[@rabblerouserorc8649]

I do think Cathay needs 2 DLCs, one for Monkey King and Yin-Yin, one for melee focus and one for more gunpowder / skirmish units (maybe a Cathayn flying ship like a Thunderbarge) with Li Dao being a FLC when Monkey King comes out. I just don't think there's enough material for a Dark Elf DLC. I'm really hoping for Cathay to get that slot in the Slaanesh DLC with High Elves with Dark Elves getting just a facelift. Vampire Counts getting a Champions of Chaos style DLC should be done, and yeah, Empire - I need good ol' Toddy to have his day.

[@TheChristOOv]

I would like an undead update the same way we had champions of chaos. "Rise of Nagash" Or something along the lines. It could even be that Nagash isn't a playable legendary lord, but an end point of a race for different Legendary Lords. Take over Nagashizzar, gather the books of Nagash ect, defend Nagashizzar during a ritual and as a reward, you win and gain Nagash as a legendary lord for you faction in a post-game sense. (like the vampire coast and Amanar, although you actually get Amanar) Part of me feels like having Nagash wandering around the map and being defeated on turn 15 wouldn't be particularly cool, becoming the end-game crisis and having the rest of the world declare war on you as is pretty cool however.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

@TheChristOOv maybe a LH like everyone's favorite undead frog? Unlockable but VERY late game because he's so OP.

[@jaimepujol5507]

That way even Azhag could get a chance of getting the bone daddy, which could be hilarious

[@HiddenEvilStudios]

My beloved bloodsuckers need it desperately. Give me back Cursed Blades, CA! Come on! You gave it to them at the start of Warhammer III then took it away again! Other than those, there's Ulrican units left for the Empire, Norsca, Slaanesh and Cathay I can think of right now when it comes to the now established deal from Shadows of Change and onward.

[@DarthEnderX]

Answer: Every race that hasn't had a WH3 Lord Pack yet. 7.0 Slaanesh(Dechala) + HEs(Aislinn) + DEs(Tullaris) 8.0 Dogs of War(Borgio + Lucrezzia + Marco + Lietpold) 9.0 Vampire Bloodlines(Walach + Neferata + Zacharias + Ushoran) 10.0 Norsca(Sayl) + Cathay(MK) + Skaven(Thanquol) 11.0 Undead Legions(Nagash) + TKs(Sehenesmet) + VCoast(Zheng Shih) 12.0 BM(Ghorros) + Bretonnia(Bohemond) + WEs(Araloth)

[@swampselkie]

This. A DLC lineup like this would be incredible.

[@DreamMarko]

Could you please do the list with races that exist in the lore but are not in the game to see what you think and how likely they are to be added to the game? I think that would be a great idea for the video. You even mentioned some like Halflings and Hobgoblins but I know that there are many more out there. We know that Dogs of War will be in the game, at some point, just not how exactly implemented.As just one faction or like Warriors of Chaos.

[@warlockwod]

Cant talk for him but I would definitely like other human cultures. Estalia and Tilea, Araby, Ind and Nippon

[@Tiberium10332]

On top of my head there is still Nippon (which is Japan), the snakeman of Kuresh (maybe as a lizardman subfaction?), Ind, Albion (there is a mod for them), Araby (there is a mod for them). The same author made a faction out of the Fimir as well. (for Albion, Araby and the fimir look for OvN lost factions mods) The fishman, a aquatic type of beastmen. The amazons as a lizardman subfaction. Estalia, Tilea and maybe the border princes. (There is a mod for them, Cataph's Southern Realms) I could imagine that we could see Nippon and Ind maybe even Araby. I doubt we could get Albion, Estalia, Tilea and the border princes, but still possible. I don't think we'll see any of the other factions. I would love to see the snakeman though. I really hope for Nippon and Ind at least!

[@Tiberium10332]

I forgot Nagash, he could get his own race-faction, but he is mentioned here. I think he is very likely as a faction (there is a mod for him).

[@DreamMarko]

@@Tiberium10332 I'm expecting Tilea, Estalia, and Border Princes to be part of the Dogs of War, but I don't know if Sartarosa, Marienburg, or anyone else could be there as well. I think Araby could be its own faction, I was hopping Sartarosa as well, or if they get lumped into DoW for Aranessa to be moved as she shouldn't be part of an undead action.

[@MarineCARMINE]

Vampire counts and Norsca 100000% need a DLC or 2. I personally would like to see another dark elf, dwarf and warriors of chaos DLC.

[@ZsomborTurányik]

Yeah their unit roaster feels so tiny compared to the others

[@Orbayyy]

Lizardmen needs a rework, both in game style, and the damn web! Pestilence needs to be updated too!

[@haldir56]

Champions of Chaos was my favorite Warhammer III DLC until Thrones of Decay came out, so I wouldn’t mind something similar for the Vampire Counts. Really flesh out the blood lines, make them each feel unique.

[@TheRevan1337]

Honestly, every race in the game should get more DLC, and every upcoming race should also get them. Warhammer 3 is a great platform, and it should remain active for many years to come.

[@tunencio7288]

CA probably has the very same opinion but the problem is GW...working with them is a pain in the ass

[@JamesMEEKSo1]

I think it’s great now we can get updates to races without the need for DLC. So many races just need a bit of a face lift but without new units and lords. I’m glad we get that now

[@triploshadow]

I think it's kinda stupid saying the Wood elves are done. They barely have any cool faction mechanics, their tree settlements are massively inferior to dark fortresses same as their outposts one faction is broken and the others are super mid, they are still affected by supply lines while WoC aren't making them even worse. And we still don't have Naieth, Daith, Araloth, Sceolan and the Eonir.

[@arnauddelaclos3221]

Wood elves Rework was PEAK

[@emib6599]

I really hope the vampire pirates get some kind of reword together with a vampire count DLC, they really need one.

[@eomat]

Empire.. Really want Ludwig Schwarzhelm, 4 unique Elector Counts, Emil Valgeir the Ar-Ulric and the Cult of Ulric units, Celestial Hurricanum, Halflings, Sisters of Sigmar, Kurt Helborg. So much they could still get.

[@valeclaw1697]

Joseff Bugman FLC, maybe with Brewmaster heros, is all i could really see for Dwarfs at least rn For Wood Elves i think giving them a system similar to The Deeps would be cool but only in Athel Loren, to reflect how its way bigger on the inside witg metaphysical fae junk, and to let you build up the forest even further.

[@nerfkeshegs2950]

Buff bretonnia

[@unowno123]

The wood elves do need a significant overhaul. Their tree mechanic thing is insanely boring

[@goodmusic4673]

yeah you just have nothing really to loose after you secured you own tree and the stuff around it what can really happen to you ? you attack trees on the other side of the map the AI there will never come to any other tree with minor exceptions

[@gstellar96]

Lore accurate treehugger gameplay @@goodmusic4673

[@gsauwce5488]

@@goodmusic4673yep I agree. I think the mechanic is cool, but the campaign is too easy

[@benderbendingrodriguez6375]

They have the exact same settlement map every time which makes fighting them really boring. It's also worse then their old forest maps because now it's a lot easier to corner them and bog them down. It basically works against them because of their play style.

[@c.j.shotgunangel8905]

Yes the mechanic is the only reson i dont play them😂

[@LorePlayingGames]

I'd love to see CA make up some druchii Sorceress legendary lord (like they made up Cylostra etc.) and let us play Ghrond. I know we have Mortahi, but Morathi is THE Morathi. I'd just like a more down to earth sorceress leading a more magic/research oriented faction like Teclis is for HE. Heck, it could even be Eldire Bane, Malus' mother. Just cook up that LL, cook some faction mechanics, no units needed as we have pretty much everything, pop Shadowblade, Kouran Darkhand and Tullaris Deadbringer on top, fix the once again broken slavery system and there, Dark Elves are done.

[@LorePlayingGames]

Just out of the top of my head, Ghrond's faction mechanics could focus on maintenance of nothern watchtowers, stopping chaos and norscan incursions and keeping the chaos wastes influence at bay. As a side mechanic they could complete mini-missions where they hunt and capture male sorcerers and send them in chains to Malekith for... re-education.

[@ArminageShikoba]

If we get 3 races per pack, that gives us around 6 DLCs left, which does make sense. I think 6 DLC would be enough to fully flesh out enough of the setting.

[@kotson666]

You are mistaken, tabletop Nagash combines vampire counts and tomb kings units.

[@IronWarriorofChaos]

20:40 God that's the dream right? Having Total Warhammer Fantasy alongside 40k. Experience says that something will happen that'll force them to wrap it up but having both simultaneously is the perfect scenario. Imagine a few years from now we get Total 40k and then a few months later *boom* race pack for Ind or Khuresh. As for races here, I'd say the list is almost perfect. Kislev having nothing left feels weird since it was one of the core launch races for 3 but makes sense, as you said it was scraping the barrel already. Putting a tinfoil hat on, have a theory that CA hoped to get more help on Kislev from GW. Especially since it was going to be a big race in The Old World but recent events happened.

[@stormxlr2377]

What recent events ?

[@storytsunami]

@@stormxlr2377 The War in Ukraine.

[@IronWarriorofChaos]

@@stormxlr2377 well the rumor was that they killed Kislev being a launch army for the Old World due to the Ukraine/Russia situation. Realistically I think the excuse they wound up giving makes more sense. Cost less to just do a couple new models and re-release already existing armies than to make entirely new ones. Also, its a decent gauge of whether or not this Old World thing is going to be popular in the long run. It would be terrible for GW to pump money into two new armies then the Old World somehow doesn't make back enough.

[@darthralin]

For Norsca, I'm hoping for inclusion in a maritime DLC, with the High Elves, the Vampire Coast and Grand Cathay (And an update for Lokhir.) to focus on their sea-raider gimmick, while reworking how the naval factions (or sub-factions) work on the campaign map. That's my pie in the sky. Otherwise, I'd be plenty happy if Norsca got the same kind of deal that Beastmen did and got access to some of the cool stuff already available to other Chaos factions in other ways (letting the shamans choose between daemon summonings, some limited way to recruit daemons through their devotion mechanic). But since that kind of rework needs a DLC to justify it, I'm hoping they get one anyway.

[@LightninPanda69]

Chaos Dwarves are probably my favorite implementation of a dlc race so far, but I agree that Champions of Chaos is probably the best dlc for the trilogy as a whole. It's kinda baffling how they came up with the perfect format to deliver new content, then completely dropped it moving forward.

[@flamo9991]

Honestly, im all for fully fleshing out and completing this game in its entirety

[@TheJackal100]

They did say in one of their recent sit downs that Bretonnia will get a update in the future after the chaos lords

[@LiteLiger]

This next dlc has been too long in the pipeline not happy with the dev speed atm

[@benjaminkopetzky980]

Doesn’t have the highest priority but I think Archaon eventually needs his own Everchosen mechanic maybe like this. I think they could do a norsca chaos warrior DLC in one, while the man eater mercenary mechanic is not out yet they could recycle two already done mechanics in one. the DLC could work similar to the champions of chaos dlc with five characters each leading a Norscan tribe. for Chaos Undivided - Vardek Crom the Conqueror. for Khorne - Haargroth the Blooded. for Nurgle - Feytor the Tainted for Slaanesh Styrkaar of the Sortsvinaer. A. looks much cooler and B. replaces Vandred later anyway for Tzeentch - Melekh the Changer or his son, Cyspeth. how the dlc would work basically when you play one of them you get a few units from their god roster and a few really good buffs or little Gimmick mechanics and just the associated god mechanics , changing of ways, plagues etc. chrom would have to get something equally good but not really sure what Jet. but the main mechanic for them is that they get orders from archaon, maybe similar like the contracts in the upcoming DLC and they get good rewards for completing them. When you play Archaon you get something similar to tamurkhan where you can increase their loyalty by doing various stuff, eventually confederating them and either making them legendary heroes or lords, and their last loyalty should give a strong permanent buff to units with their mark or armys with their authority. Looks more chaos warrior pilled I know but most norscan Characters do because Norsca was not really Its own faction back when, but it would still be cool to get a few more Norscan looking characters regardless. I don't know, that is just what I would like to see as I think Archaon really needs something like that, to set him apart as the everchosen.

[@maesde]

I was daydreaming for a bit and imagined: what if tomorrow GW released a new story for, say, an unknown/unused Skaven clan and did a really interesting story, adding 2-3 types of units? What if then CA released a small DLC for that clan, with the lord, a couple of units, and all for 10$ tops? would that even be possible? If GW wanted to release new lore like that once/twice a year, we could have at least 1 or even 2 DLCs a year forever until the end of time... they would be small in scope but I would buy them.

[@Mr_Giraffe989]

My main issue with doing a CoC style DLC for Vampires is that CoC has a lot of filler. More noticable with the Undivided lords, but there are 10 flavors of Marauders, 10 Chaos Warriors, and 10 Chosen. 30 units of melee infantry, while some races dont even have 30 units in total. I would hate to see Marked Undead. For example: Skeleton, Skeleton of Lahmia, Ghoul, Ghoul of Strigoi. I feel that mass reskins would do more harm then good.

[@franz9744]

CA should make Middle land, The Cult of Slaanesh and Musillion as separate race/faction from there original ones. Just for multiplayer. It would be cool to play with the subrace online instead just for campaign.There is enough material for a Beastman DLC. Hope at the least CA gives a pack of heroes and general stuff during the dead times.

[@borgCube100]

I very much agree with this list. Obvi my fav are the High Elves, and they are very complete - throw in a LH and another LL and boom, full roster. But it's the general small race fixes that comes with the DLC that I think they need the most.

[@lantern256]

The Empire needs a witch hunter Lord like Matthias Thulman.

[@Izadirad1995]

I hope a way they can rush out some dlc for us is to have the Sofia team make a dlc whilst the old dlc team makes a dlc. Let em compete with each other. Might make superior products

[@liambridgeman4529]

I really think a tomb king dlc could happen , with ramphotep the visionary and prince apophas vs brets vs boarder princes

[@tythus654]

If Be'lakor can be a Chaos Warrior lord, then I don't see an issue with a mortal Chaos Undivided Lord leading the Daemons.

[@andarara-c1p]

If only there was a chance for Ind and Khuresh in some form... I will never stop wishing for it though. And for Southern Realms as well

[@PeterSced]

yes seeing Lizardmen in your 1 dlc is abolutely what i'm hoping for, although ill likely buy whatever they release to the standards of thrones. but they so need a good rework!

[@MarkS00NMcknown]

So, I am 100% certain Beastmen and Wood Elves will get one more DLC because they are main army in The Old World (so not part of Legend index) and GW has been promoting the old miniature when DLC released. In fact, I think one of the reason Slaanesh vs High Elves DLC get postponed is because GW hasn't reveal High Elves Arcane Journal yet, so The Old World has some influence on Warhammer 3 DLCs. Which is also why I also think Tomb King will get one more DLC (though Bretonnia probably will just get LFC Lord and units). Beside, Beastmen still has Preyton, and CA will not release that unit as FLC. The one that I am doubting is actually Dark Elves. I can see them get one more, but if Slaanesh get Anointed Elves and High Elves get Merwyrm, those can be given to Dark Elves like Marked Beastmen units to Beastmen. So there is no need for Dark Elves to be the third race in Slaanesh vs High Elves DLC. I find it to be much more likely for Norscan to be part of that DLC because of its sea theme and CA has been promising Norsca update since Warhammer 2. And if the idea is to pivot to Cathay, Vampire Coast could get Jade Vampire (and other Chinese ghost inspired units) in a DLC that involve Yin Yin, so I'll put them as possibly one more DLC. Speaking of Cathay, I personally think that Cathay will get 4 DLCs so it can get all 5 Dragon Childrens and Monkey King witch each get their own unique units. So far Skaven and Lizardmen have the highest amount of DLC for them (3 DLCs), but Skaven most certainly will get 1 more DLC, so it won't be strange for Cathay to get as many as Skaven. Greenskins, Ogre, and Dwarfs can get one more DLC (Forest goblin for GS, Gnoblar armies for Ogre, Runesmith/Priest theme for Dwarf [there are three priest types for Dwarf in WFRPG 4E's Dwarf Player Guide book]), but I agree their chances are slim. I am confident Kislev will get one more DLC (focusing on Kislev in New World/Cathay, more tropical instead of tundra, think Kraven the Hunter from Spider-man as inspiration), but yeah, the Ukrainian war seems to make GW uncomfortable to make army about them (because they've convinced themselves that Kislev is based on Russian Empire instead of amalgamation of Slavs culture). Finally, I am confident Chaos Dwarfs will get one more DLC. It has enough units to fill in missing units (Bull Centaur Lord, Hobgolbin hero, Infernal Guard (Blunderbusses), K'daai Manbuner, Chaos Siege Giant, Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower, Ogre Labourers(?)) and I think the end goal is for every races to get at least 4 LL (so Norsca either get another DLC or there is an FLC for it). Overall, I think I am a lot more optimistic than you regarding races and their future DLC.

[@regasor6285]

I don't agree in any measure that pleasure seekers is the only thing slaanesh needs, the AoS line has added some amazingly cool mortal units with the hedonists for example blissbarb seekers and archers, painbringers and twinsouls, if we can do endtimes why not include some of the coolest models made in the warhammer universe + his roster is very directionally challenged for playstyles as it pretty much only supports hammer and anvil / charge combat, I really miss some ranged options, even it if it is simply blissbarb archers or seekers with blissbarb archers.

[@adamjenkins9237]

They did make it sound like the speed of releases would pick up after the slaanesh dlc is out, so that's awesome.

[@JohnDiabol]

I wanna see a DLC for Dark Elves, I feel like they could benefit massively from a New Lord of some sort with some new units and mechanics. I also think we definitely need a DLC for Slaanesh. Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings also needs some love. I am sure there are other factions too that could use some loving, but I don't play every single faction in the game so I am not so sure about which ones. I also know more than a few factions could use just a general update to some gameplay mechanics and systems.

[@jduke6793]

I'm surprised that so much was put outside of done. Listening to you put into context makes sense though.

[@GonadsOfGodrey]

nah i can totally see chorfs getting an FLC lord, especially since there's still characters to add

[@magnustherad1516]

Brettonia could potentially be considered a "no DLC, but updated with others in a potential Champions of Undeath dlc added the Red Duke as a Brettonian faction, rather than under the VC umbrella? Maybe that doesn't make sense, but in any case I'm hoping for Abhorash as a LH- maybe akin to the Green Knight, since he and Giles had kind of a bromance

[@CavFra]

You skipped the Dawi to talk about the Elgi first?? You damn well know where that's going!

[@Mishomish0]

I wish Kislev would get more Patriarch and Orthodox Church units, like the secret police (which in theory are in but look like regular units with frost sabers?) but it would be better like Kossars with torches and guns/swords to arrest the witches and also heavily armored Church enforcer units and also the most shaman/bearlike Ursunite soldiers (like frosty followers of Sigmar)

[@Skull_Monger]

I hope we'll see a roadmap for future DLCs when *Rivers of Blood* (that's what I decided to call the Khorne DLC) comes out.

[@Seelenverheizer]

I feel the take in the video is the super optimistic take. I agree Cathay seems realistic at 2 DLC's + FLC Lord but i feel like empire has 1 DLC in it purely based on the fact thats what sells. No way there will be another Nurgle or Tzeench one. Rats are done and i feel there are so many Lizardmen LL already i feel that if we get a free geomantic web update and maybe some finetuning for Nakai and maybe Mundi its ok. Nosca is a complete wild card. Vampire counts gonna get Nesperata for sure, her starting spot is 100% set up for her, but i do not believe there will be a big Warriors of Chaos style DLC. Vlad needs a unique mechanic where he has an empire mechanic similar to Franz. Otherwise i do agree strongly non the no more dlc brakets. Depending on the plans with Cathay i could see there beeing a FLC Wood elf in Cathay, The cahtayens need someone to fight. Similar how placing a FLC Demon Faction into Cathay would work.

[@MichaelThomas-p6q]

I hope the chaos dwarves get a fourth lord with hobgoblin stuff, maybe a dwarfs vs chaos dwarfs vs norse dwarfs pack

[@inductivegrunt94]

I hope something does happen with Norsca. Maybe not a full DLC with lots of unit, but just a new Legendary Lord, 1 or 2 generic lords, and reworkings to the factions mechanics, maybe a new unit or two but not necessary. I think that and the faction is complete.

[@cuellas1338]

I would really, really love a "Lords of the Bloodlines" (or whatever they call it) DLC with Walach, Ushoran, Neferata and Zacharias, all with their own mechanics. Maybe a rework to Mannfred to be the Von Carstein there, just because I would want Vlad to have it's own Vampire Wars mechanics with his goal being the Emperor of the Night. That, making Nagash a dlc apart being it's own thing with access to all undead troops would 100% get my money. Also give me Konrad as a legendary hero please.

[@Kmobful]

I think coast should be attached to nagash. All undead should be affected when nagash rises

[@nemesorofthokt2755]

They have to have more than one undead DLC because the counts need a ton of work and Nagash will utterly dominate any DLC he's in which precludes that. I'm still hoping for abhorash and the big scarabs.

[@PNarbz123]

Man... Just give Norsca Mortkin with some cool units with some race mechanics and people would be happy.

[@Dragonwolfworm]

Norsca, Vampire Counts, Vampire Coast and Slaneesh needs another DLC. I'm still baffled that Beastmen got reworked and a new LL before Norsca when Beastmen are one of the least popular factions.

[@MriStoleThisUserName]

I wish they would make the beastmen less OP. To increase the challenge and run during play

[@jamrocks464]

I'm really interested in 5.3 and 6.0, also the coming DLC. I do hope that we might get news next week between the 21 and 25.

[@Rhinopotamus]

Bretonnia and Beastmen could get another DLC if CA actually had the balls.

[@oranguman9360]

What about the dogs of war? And creating our own custom lord?

[@marinazinovic2113]

I don't see why Brets are disqualified from paid DLC. They are essentially a base game faction in terms of WH3. Since you get them when you buy the game in IE.

[@Hunko115]

I think Tomb Kings could 100% get another DLC attached to a small rework. TK worked really well in WH2 but they're starting to feel a little outdated. Khatep's campaign is really strange, Arkhan still doesn't have his mount. And the recruitment system is a bit slow in WH3 standards. and there are still some units and characters left. So I wouldn't be surprised if we got one more.

[@MegaThunberg]

Vampire coast can be cross Vampire counts, units for both races.

[@lewishorsman2219]

Empire needs a faith pack. The whole pantheon and no one gets any attention really. Chaos you can dedicate whole settlements to a patron god but the empire has shrines to almost every god in every city but it’s never referenced in gameplay really

[@DanielGonzalez-mx7bi]

For darkelfs they should add Kouran as a legendary lord but isndie of malekith faction, like Alastar is for Tyrion

[@holleau5637]

It's frustrating how long it's taking DLC to release... the games is still quite active, currently at 30k players on Steam which is really quite good for a nearly 3-year-old game; especially a predominantly single-player game. With that said, the game has plenty of a consumer base, and it's really bothersome that this consistently-played game is just seemingly being ignored. I mean Space Marine 2 came out a month ago and their player counts are already comparable.

[@ocab9589]

A valten, thanquol and nagash would be insane

[@toomanyinterests2271]

Ne units and lords are great but immortal empires needs more, universal campaign mechanics. Instead of just chaos invasion adapt the vortex and realms of chaos into immortal empires, that should create some replayability.

[@angemalaurie6074]

I think vampire coast might have another DLC (with new made up character) because of the AI faction in Cathay. They need more start position so that you can play Vampire coast near cathay and Ind. It's not a guarrantee but the vampire coast can be anywhere in the world where there is stuff to plaunder and I fe

[@Kavino]

I fee like Kislev has another DLC in its sleeve. Vampire Coast needs one but probably won't get it.

[@CasualFriedEggEnjoyer]

*DOC and WOC getting DLCs* Beastmen: YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE

[@Mandalore9999]

Bretonnia, h. Elves, w. Elves and vampire counts are the only factions I'm interested in buying the dlc for Maybe empire if it's good but that's it

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

The Empire has room for two big dlcs. Middenheim and a Knight focused dlc. Middenheim with all the Ulrician units. Knight dlc would add a Grand Master to the lord recruitment options. Just fluff out with reskin variants and some "sub-ll" grand masters that are akin to Gotrek & Felix. Powerful, but not the main focus of the faction.

[@thomaskristensen2013]

Tzeentch also needs Silver Towers/Bane Towers

[@thomaskristensen2013]

and Greater Spawn of Tzeetch

[@tonymiller7446]

I hope we still get character packs to fill in missing awesome characters

[@AAS1-kp9cs]

Am i the only one who wants a halfling race pack? I think it’s unlikely but it would be really cool. Could be a smaller scale (pun intended).

[@kylepassey7813]

Vampire Coast are unfortunately about as outdated as Norsca currently and are equally in need of a rework/DLC but sadly I don't see them getting anything in the future purely because they're niche.

[@Misaka_9982]

I hope we get a soft rework of all three K8P factions and campaigns. Their faction mechanic of 'be penalised until you take this settlement isn't fun'. Hoping Queek also gets some head taking stuff from the new Khorne lord.

[@brandor763]

Ive said it before, ill say it again.. Grudges.... my friend.... i love ya... but ur a bit wrong about the Beastmen. They easily could have 2 more dlcs or one big fat COC esque dlc centered on them. They have to still add the rest of the god touched minotaurs (tzeentch, nurgle, slaanesh) some other weapon variants for the bestigors, slaanhooves, bovigors, Banegors, Bloodkines, another 4 god touched gors but with different weapons than the ones we have, chimera, basilisk, preyton, god touched chaos spawn, giant chaos spawn, the cockatrice should be given to Beastmen too, slugtongue, moonclaw, ghorros warhoof, festigor, ragush of the bloody horn tribe, minotaurs with cleavers, god touched lords and heros like bulls, shaymans, and wargors/chieftains, (legendary and generic), and even a subrace... the Beastfiends!!! Lol. Lots to choose from.

[@anthroposmetron4475]

A few quibbles but a pretty fair listing you've done there Grudgey. And so now here come the 'Actually, every single race in the game will get DLC several times over plus there will be Ind, Nippon and Kuresh' comments.

[@JakeHawkins-f3g]

Can you do a follow up video speculation on what the DLCs might be based on the tier list? We know the races in the next one and you talked about a few others but it would be good to see what else might be possible.

[@Foerster44v2]

I'm kind of surprised about your 'pessimism' regarding Dwarfs, I think they very well *could* get a more Rune themed DLC, and as you said, another engineering focussed DLC (inspired by all those tank mods :D) wouldn't necessarily be off the table either. In another bout of optimism, I also think Vampire Coast could see an undead Skaven minifaction, or also just more exotic creature stuff in general (undead parrots, undead monkeys, undead whales). If mods have thaught me one thing about Warhammer, it's that the fun *never* ends!