It’s sad that when you say “Bloody Sunday” you have to clarify which one you’re referring to.
@eoincaomhanach19833 жыл бұрын
there were more then 2 on the island of Ireland, says a lot really.
@bayougtr3 жыл бұрын
@Kadir Garip Has nothing to do with Irish Independence.
@tramorester3 жыл бұрын
@Khadirgarip of course it's valid that we know, it wasn't just the Brits killing civilians. Anyway there was a brief Soviet republic of Limerick in 1921 , of course the church and the soon to be Free Staters killed that, equality was only for a GPO proclamation , it was never meant to be practised
@canman50603 жыл бұрын
1921 or 1970 ?
@callumpatterson76453 жыл бұрын
@@tramorester catch a grip
@narutojames2253 жыл бұрын
"Government approved reprisals" is an absolutely insane phrase to hear.
@user-ys5yv2nz6w3 жыл бұрын
@@allanlank Pay back by killing civilians?
@allanlank3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ys5yv2nz6w Civilians who were spies, sheltered murderers, and hid weapons and bombs.
@tomaszzalewski45413 жыл бұрын
@@allanlank Yeah, because 100% of Irish civilians supported the war. It's not like a notable portion of them were just Innocent bystanders. I don't know whether or not it's your ignorance or political brainwashing
@Relocklabs3 жыл бұрын
@@tomaszzalewski4541 don't let the trolls get you upset my man
@Conn30Mtenor3 жыл бұрын
@@tomaszzalewski4541 he's right though. The civilians gave the IRA intelligence, safe houses and joined the IRA ranks. The truth is the truth. In any revolution or insurgency, civilians will be targeted because the civilians are the enemies of the occupiers. Name one revolution where civilians weren't targets. When you're overthrowing an oppressor, every civilian, man woman or child is a target and if you think otherwise you're naive.
@NMahon3 жыл бұрын
Some of the stories from Bloody Sunday are so sad. Little boys sitting on the wall watching the match gunned down. A girl who was due to be wed next week killed. An ex soldier who fought in the trenches killed in his home town by former fellow soldiers. They were so bloodthirsty they just massacred innocent people. It's one thing targeting officers and soldiers, it's another killing women and children. It's very stupid as well, because many of those in the crowd who weren't in the IRA would surely have joined them after this event.
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
@Thad Chad What about the Amritsar massacre in April 1919 in India? Was that justified?
@AlwaysAC3 жыл бұрын
And we still haven’t learned. The same premise applies to the Middle East today. Every wedding bombed, every child caught in crossfire and every home levelled in our name pushes normal decent people towards violence and terrorism. Truly tragic.
@joeviking613 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't the Crown ever charged with War Crimes ?
@guypierson57543 жыл бұрын
@@joeviking61 By whom? The Crown is gonna charge itself with war crimes? The reigning monarch is the Commander in Chief of all British Armed forces. Britain still has a fat chunk of Ireland as a colony. A colony, in 2020, keep that in mind when you consider the UK an advanced country.
@ShubhamMishrabro3 жыл бұрын
@@guypierson5754 i think Scotland would separate and Ireland will unite after some years
@WHickox833 жыл бұрын
"Shot while trying to escape" is the "he hanged himself" of 100 years ago.
@truckfreak45373 жыл бұрын
“Suspect was resisting arrest”
@Darwinek3 жыл бұрын
"Fell from the stairs" or "Stumbled and fell on a knife [five times]"
@maximilianolimamoreira50023 жыл бұрын
@@Darwinek stumbling and falling on a knife 5 times is bs, that is on purpose really.
@youroneblackfriend63213 жыл бұрын
@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 bruh. r/whoooosh
@MrLorenzovanmatterho3 жыл бұрын
But in this case true, absolutely no evidence to the contrary.
@gannonwoods24563 жыл бұрын
The colorization of the footage and photos really enhances the reality of the history. Excellent job and thank you to those that took the time to colorize.
@Schnabelfreak3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome :) This is mostly done by an AI, and we put our final touch on it.
Жыл бұрын
@@ZolaClyde They didn't follow your orders.
@adamazzalino5247 Жыл бұрын
nah distorts details in the original source
@JobberBud3 жыл бұрын
This colorized footage is astounding.
@anthonykatsivalis2243 жыл бұрын
Very
@danielasterling69363 жыл бұрын
USHUAIA BARILOCHE VILLA GESELL A R G E N T I N A
@davey74523 жыл бұрын
One mans terrorist is another mans freedomfighter. Prime minister David Lloyd George completely underestimated Irish Nationalism, he came to the conclusion after bloody Sunday a military solution is nolonger fiesible, he grudgingly began to go to Peace talks. In the end the British pulled out of southern Ireland but kept Northern Ireland, no one was completely satisfied and violence continued for many decades.
@tiggergolah3 жыл бұрын
A terrorist targets unarmed civilians with the intention of terrorizing the civilian population. A guerilla fighter targets only military or armed government targets. There is a huge difference in the rules of war. Guerilla fighters have my respect, even those on the other side. Terrorists deserve no such respect, regardless of their cause. Deliberately targeting unarmed civilians damns your cause.
@kenoliver89133 жыл бұрын
"Michael Collins completely overestimated Irish support for terrorism, he came to the conclusion after bloody Sunday another six months a military solution is no longer feasible, he grudgingly began to go to peace talks." Equally true. De Valera didn't understand that and had Collins killed for it.
@SantomPh3 жыл бұрын
Ironically Lloyd George was the first Welsh PM of the UK- a people long submerged by the English
@djquinn113 жыл бұрын
@@tiggergolah : No, the purpose of a terrorist is to terrorize.
@johnsomebody17532 жыл бұрын
No man's invader, is another man's victim. Ireland was never invaded by the Irish. So the victims who resort to, "terror", would not do what they do, without the provocation by invaders.
@kevindoyle18843 жыл бұрын
Barry was a tactical genius he managed wage a guerrilla war brilliantly with practically no supplies, in nearly all of his engaments his men had at most three rounds per engament. His book would go on to be studied at West Point and by the vietcong.
@tramorester3 жыл бұрын
What I love about Tom Barry was the fact he was anti-treaty but did not a long protracted guerrilla against the free state. He argued that the 10,000 anti treaty republicans should take Dublin and hopefully reunite the staters with the IRA if the brits reemerged but if it was the free state they were fighting , it would be intense but short. Such a pity as we lost too many fine leaders from the republicans afterwards
@johnsometimeswrong87423 жыл бұрын
I think 3 rounds per volenteer is innacurate especially At Kilmicheal or Crossbarry but i do remeber reading i his book(28 years ago) about the pityful supply of ammo
@bensanderson71443 жыл бұрын
What impresses me about Barry was that oh, maybe 21 years of age when he led the flying columns
@nipperparr67092 жыл бұрын
I aggre, the man was an expert in gorilla warfare
@lenorevanalstine12192 жыл бұрын
@@bensanderson7144 every few generations there is born a brilliant tactician who are naturaly inclined to the kind of thinking that make them extremely effective
@irelandjam3 жыл бұрын
Great work from all at The Great War, keep it up!
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of outstanding errors in this documentary.
@uncertified-banger55953 жыл бұрын
@@johnroche7541 cool.
@IrishTechnicalThinker3 жыл бұрын
Michael Collins is running around gathering intelligence. Legend.
@MrLorenzovanmatterho3 жыл бұрын
Michael Collins is a moron whose documents provided British intelligence with more info than anything else, Irish nationalists want to believe the legend so that can pretend they didn't lose.
@guypierson57543 жыл бұрын
@@MrLorenzovanmatterho I agree that Michael's actions were not always productive for the cause he purported to serve. But maybe he was doing his best to wage a war against a superpower with limitless resources using only his mind, every man has limits.
@Rm-ss5gv3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLorenzovanmatterho how exactly did we lose ?
@philipstokes8653 жыл бұрын
@@Rm-ss5gv read the Proclamation
@briangallagher31067 ай бұрын
My great grandmother worked in Dublin castle and was passing information to Collins men in 1919-21
@kevindoyle18843 жыл бұрын
5his channel does an amazing job at actually telling the history as an Irish person we can be quite prticuler how our history is told but I just love the respect shown so far, great annunciation
@MaryamofShomal Жыл бұрын
Nothing but love and respect for the Irish!!! -Iranian-American whose never met an Irishman or woman who I didn’t adore 💚
@jacobtracy78472 жыл бұрын
My Great Great Grandpa came to the US from Ireland in 1885. The town he was born in, Knockcroghery, was burned to the ground by the black and tans during the Anglo-Irish war.
@tonyodoherty8983 Жыл бұрын
The Provence of Ulster has nine counties. Only six were included in Northren Ireland in order to create a Protestant majority.
@KimPhilby2032 ай бұрын
We want nothing to do with the South...We're British...
@robertomeara34692 жыл бұрын
One thing thats not mentioned here is the fear from upsetting Irish America by the British,this is very often overlooked.
@philiprufus4427 Жыл бұрын
They tried that with Canada in the 19th century. The Canadians kicked them out and declared themselves A Crown Colony, they later became A Dominion.
@johnnotrealname81689 ай бұрын
@@philiprufus4427Irish America is significantly over-rated in terms of their effect in Ireland. The Proclamation was correct, Ireland had to rely on their own first. The @#£%&€$ Thomas Woodrow Wilson abandoned Ireland even after Irish opinion in America supported the Entente. It is why I think neutrality was a snub towards America too for not helping.
@brianmccarthy55573 жыл бұрын
My paternal grandmother was a close relative of the famous Fenian Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa, though her immediate family were not IRA supporters at first. Several members of "The Squad" were cousins of hers. You have to remember that Irish families are large and extended so you typically have a lot of what the English word "cousins" describes. I'm also a distant relative, through both of my paternal grandparents, of Michael Collins, who was born in the parish of Clonakilty, which is the next parish to my grandfather's traditional village of Skibbereen in south Cork. He and my grandfather both attended the Christian Brothers School in Cork, though he was several years older than my grandfather, who emigrated upon his graduation at seventeen in 1913 to North America. One of the reasons Collins could count on the loyalty of his men was that many of them were related. Unlike most 20th Century revolutionaries the Irish were Catholics. Of the members of the Squad I know of, they went to Mass and took the Eucharist early that morning. I'm not sure how they handled their confessions, but at that point there were many priests who recognized them as legitimate Irish soldiers. My grandmother did end up running some guns for the Cork columns after the sacking and burning of Cork City by the English, and their murders of many Cork people. Ireland can be complicated, as she did have a minor romantic involvement with a British soldier at the same time. She emigrated to Boston during the Civil War period, around 1922/1923.
@stephengrimmer352 жыл бұрын
Brian, I hope you visit Skibbereen sometime. If you do, the Eldon Hotel is where Michael Collins spent his last night alive. And the rule is you my never pass a bar with your name on it without stopping for a drink. McCarthy is one of the most common names in West Cork 🍻
@fintonmainz78452 жыл бұрын
"Skibbereen the next parish to Clonakilty"
@philiprufus44272 жыл бұрын
It has now been proven that the Auxie who started tthe burning of Cork was a Scot from Selkirk and of German extraction. The family had a large country house near Selkirk and owned a weaving mill there.
@fintonmainz78452 жыл бұрын
@@philiprufus4427 it's ridiculous to state that an individual started it. There were multiple fires at different locations at the same time. This could not have been done by a dozen or so men.
@danboland37753 жыл бұрын
Fantastically balanced look at a little known part of history- great work all!
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
Sadly there is a lot of prominent errors.
@danboland37753 жыл бұрын
@@johnroche7541like what? I noticed some oversimplifications, sure, but that's the nature of the format
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
@@danboland3775 Check out my reply to "C Coady Long" above.
@danboland37753 жыл бұрын
@@johnroche7541 thanks, it was an interesting read. The inaccuracies you've pointed out are certainly worth correcting, but are minutiae. You said yourself they're mistakes found in other sources. A history channel that jumps around is going to have them. None of the big picture stuff was inaccurate as far as Im aware
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
@@danboland3775 The quote in relation to the IRA and Michael Collins he erroneously attributed to David Lloyd George. This quote is actually from Tom Jones(Secretary to Lloyd George) in a letter to Bonar Law. When historians quote David Lloyd George's famous "We have murder by the throat speech" in early November 1920 they dont emphasise that it was optimistic and premature as IRA operations contradicted it. It was a vital month that historians fail to grasp the significance of it as it reflects the growing insurgency. David Lloyd George's speech was in early November but look what happens by the end of the month.A)Bloody Sunday,B)Kilmichael Ambush,C)IRA attacks on Liverpool docklandsD)Over 60 Crown Forces killed which was the heaviest death toll for any single month of 1920. In the UK barricades were put up to the entrance of Downing Street. Prominent historians who are specialists on this conflict should be aware of the significance of November and they dont emphasise my point which in my opinion is a dereliction of historical duty. One has to highlight David Lloyd George's optimism and contradict it with the reality on the ground. After all these years I cant comprehend why historians fail to highlight the significance of November 1920. It is like a historian talking about the Battle of Stalingrad and refusing to state it was a turning point in the 2nd World War. I am an ex-soldier and I am a researcher. I have been to Ireland both in N.Ireland and the Republic consulting the Archives in Belfast and Dublin(Military Archives). I have also visited the ambush sites and scenes of IRA attacks in the conflict. In the UK I have consulted the National Archives in London,consulted the regimental museums in England,Scotland and Wales and British Library Archives. I know this conflict intimately and have corrected established historians.
@TheGreatWar3 жыл бұрын
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@Daniel-OConnell3 жыл бұрын
@old school honour and respect. Perhaps you could point out exactly which parts you find incorrect, or biased. The Irish people had overwhelmingly voted for Sinn Fein in the democratic election of 1918 and the elected representatives chose not to sit in Westminister, but instead founded their own Irish parliament . Please also note that the IRA had several guises, the IRA of the war of Independence had strong public support in Ireland. The Provisional Sinn Fein/IRA who emerged in 1970 were quite different and just used the same name to justify their cause. They had little public support in Ireland and indeed there were many veterens of the war of independence who condemned their tactics.
@marks_sparks13 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-OConnell well said.
@Daniel-OConnell3 жыл бұрын
@old school honour and respect. Invitation by whom? when? 1169 was the year of the Norman Invasion of Ireland when a local warlord requested their help to settle a territorial dispute and married his daughter to the Norman leader Strongbow. Henry II came in 1171 or 1172 and Britain stayed for almost 800 years!
@ignatiusTH23 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly I once read that one examination of the bodies of the auxiliaries after the ambush at least one of them were found with bullet wounds under their arm pits which indicated there hands were in the air.
@goddessoflesbians11533 жыл бұрын
Where is the other host who did the first world war every day videos?
@thomasmichael5593 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting just how important intelligence is in a guerrilla war. The British coincidently had a similar problem with having too many conflicting intelligence agencies in Northern Ireland during the troubles. There was army intelligence known as the Force Research Unit, there was also MI5 the Secret Service, and lastly police intelligence known as the Special Branch. It was only in 1976 the confusion was resolved when the Royal Ulster Constabulary Special Branch was made the senior intelligence agency responsible for counter terrorism.
@geraldoleary12592 жыл бұрын
Police at Kilmichael ! No. Highly trained military officers with free reign to kill at will. Thankfully the IRA on the day dispensed with that potential element of British military terror in Ireland.
@22grena Жыл бұрын
In any war; Germany and Japan were both defeated because the British and Americans were reading their coded communication.
@bigounce49783 жыл бұрын
What happens when the year is 2039? Are you guys gonna continue the Great War in real time channel by redoing World War 2 in real time?
@joebradford73083 жыл бұрын
Get out of my head! I was thinking the exact same thing! 😅
@yourstruly48173 жыл бұрын
More importantly, what happens when the year is 2077?
@welatxwese80743 жыл бұрын
Remember Indy Neidel? :') He does world war two week by week! He is now in November 1941. Channel name is' World War Two'
@rojas62563 жыл бұрын
The channel is going to be gone by 2023
@rojas62563 жыл бұрын
They are going to do till. 1923
@jeeperspeepers83233 жыл бұрын
One of the best educational videos on KZbin. Thank you.
@cantonlowlifemedia3 жыл бұрын
Keep up this series on the Irish War of Independence! It's great!
@holidayhouse033 жыл бұрын
Well ya talked me into spending the 12 bucks for the CS/nebula bundle. Watched some of your Berlin special...it’s great so far. Think this might be the best $12 I’ve spent in quite a while. Thank you to all at the Great War and real time history.
@TheGreatWar3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the support and glad you are enjoying it
@jessealexander26953 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@theoutlook553 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@jaws84813 күн бұрын
Its a shame this event gets overlooked by the second "Bloody Sunday" in northern ireland in 1972 when british paras opened fire on unarmed civilan protesters@jessealexander2695
@jaws84813 күн бұрын
@@TheGreatWarMicheal Collins was also the 1st general officer commanding of the Irish free state Army......todays Irish Army / Defence Forces.
@XaloGunner2 жыл бұрын
Just bought the pass for the Berlin Documentary today and I'm really looking forward to it. Thanks for all you guys do! Been a fan since early days.
@zeppelinboys9 күн бұрын
so glad you guys are keeping the channel alive! you guys literally have my dream job! imagine being able to research WWI for a living!
@viktro5463 жыл бұрын
"was shot while trying to escape" as a euphemism of execution. hmmm why does it sound so familiar
@albertofrankdiaz66643 жыл бұрын
The same excuse in every war from the start of history. Even the roman say the same 🤣
@ralphbernhard17573 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember the US wartime "newsreels" about "Japanese Banzai attacks". Only, the dead Japanese were lined up in a ditch next to the road... The dead don't speak.
@cardenasr.28983 жыл бұрын
Mexican president Madero and his VP were executed after being deceived into thinking they'd be exiled. The new president Huerta declared they tried to escape and some of their supporters shot the military guards, triggering a shootout
@MrLorenzovanmatterho3 жыл бұрын
Because it was true. There is no evidence to contradict the authorities version of events and every right to doubt it.
@iammaxhailme3 жыл бұрын
"I had no choice, he was resisting arrest!"
@stephengrimmer352 жыл бұрын
So Michael Collins outdid Heisenberg and Jack Welcher's gang: 14 coordinated hits in a few minutes
@benrlego3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly an overlooked part of the post-WWI era in countries outside the UK/Ireland.
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
From a military historical point of view you would see the emergence of the urban guerilla in this conflict. It would see the development of the IED tactic. The famous Thompson Submachine Gun would make it's military debut in this conflict and the IRA would be the first to use it in combat. It would inspire both politically and militarily future wars of liberation and anti-colonial conflicts. The IRA tactics would be emulated and expanded upon. Ho Chi Minh was a waiter in London at the time and was influenced by the conflict.
@Roller_Ghoster3 жыл бұрын
@@johnroche7541 it was a sectarian conflict at its heart no matter how Republicanism dressed it up and saw 3000 plus dead during later Troubles. It, as you know, resulted in a stalemate with no winners.
@senan71913 жыл бұрын
@@Roller_Ghoster Well Ireland became a free state so....
@Roller_Ghoster3 жыл бұрын
@@senan7191 well Northern Ireland is still British so....
@senan71913 жыл бұрын
@@Roller_Ghoster losing 6/32 is a minor sacrifice considering we got the rest so.....
@liamobrien47672 жыл бұрын
I had the very great Honour as a young 18 year old school boy of buying Tom Barry a Birthday drink in a an unexpected encounter in a famous Cork Pub
@torchofkck49893 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! ! Besides the great content & presented covered so well... (Know just narration of facts) (But,) It is extremely refreshing to see what & how a true journalist covers all the facts & statements from both sides. (Discussing AAR of "False Surrender" clip) Even when portions of statement(s) seem obviously propaga from then current overpowering government. I don't believe that it can be infensized enough how refreshing to see what true journalistic coverage looks like. It seems like a lifetime sense we have openly witnessed it. Thanks again
@johnwatt03 жыл бұрын
In the 1918 General Election the pro-independence Sinn Féin won 73/105 Irish Seats In accordance with the Sinn Féin manifesto, their elected members refused to attend Westminster, having instead formed their own Irish parliament. Dáil Éireann was, according to John Patrick McCarthy, the revolutionary government under which the Irish War of Independence was fought and which sought international recognition. The Black and Tans were the brainchild of Churchill, he sent the thugs to Ireland to terrorise at will. Attacking civilians and civilian property they done Churchill proud. Rampaging across the country carrying out reprisals. He went on to describe them as “gallant and honourable officers”. It was also Churchill who conceived the idea of forming the Auxiliaries who carried out the Croke Park massacre. They fired into the crowd at a Gaelic football match, killing 14. Of course this didn’t fulfill Churchill’s bloodlust to repress a people who he described as “odd” for their refusal “to be English”. He went on to advocate the use of air power in Ireland against Sinn Fein members in 1920. He suggested to his war advisers that aeroplanes should be dispatched with orders to use “machine-gun fire or bombs” to “scatter and stampede them”. The British (UK) Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) members called "Black and Tans" soon gained a reputation for brutality. In the summer of 1920, "Black and Tans" paramilitary police began responding to IRA attacks by carrying out arbitrary reprisals against Irish civilians, This usually involved the burning of Irish homes, businesses, meeting halls and farms. Some buildings were also attacked with gunfire and grenades, and businesses were looted. Reprisals on property "were often accompanied by beatings and killings". Many villages suffered mass reprisals, including the Sack of Balbriggan (20 September), Kilkee (26 September), Trim (27 September), Tubbercurry (30 September) and Granard (31 October). Black and Tans burned many houses in the surrounding villages of Milltown Malbay, Lahinch and Ennistymon, and killed five civilians. In early November, Black and Tans "besieged" Tralee in revenge for the IRA abduction and killing of two local RIC men. They closed all the businesses in the town, let no food in for a week and shot dead three local civilians. On 14 November, Black and Tans were suspected of abducting and murdering a Roman Catholic Priest, Father Michael Griffin, in Galway. His body was found in a bog in Barna a week later. From October 1920 to July 1921, the Galway region was "remarkable in many ways", most notably the level of "Black and Tans" brutality towards "suspected" IRA members, which was far above the norm in the rest of Ireland. The British government, the British administration in Dublin Castle Ireland, and senior officers in the British RIC tacitly supported reprisals as a way of scaring the Irish civilian population. The Auxiliary Division of the Royal Irish Constabulary (ADRIC) was a paramilitary unit of the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) Temporary officers did not cope well with the frustrations of counterinsurgency: hurriedly recruited, poorly trained, and with an ill-defined role, they soon gained a reputation for drunkenness, lack of discipline, and brutality worse than that of the Black and Tans. They were disliked by members of the Royal Irish Constabulary (police), who considered them "rough." They seem to have been unpopular with the British Army as well. One British officer, who served as adjutant for the 2nd Battalion, Cameron Highlanders, wrote in his memoirs that the Auxiliaries "were totally undisciplined by our regimental standards". One wrote in his memoirs that "the exploits of certain companies under weak or inefficient commanders went a long way to discredit the whole force". The Auxiliaries became infamous for reprisal attacks on civilians and civilian property in revenge for IRA actions, including "extrajudicial killings" and arson; most notably the burning of Cork city in December 1920.
@22grena3 жыл бұрын
Very well done.
@dominik83063 жыл бұрын
I love Ireland from Poland :)
@jokeeffe2006 Жыл бұрын
hello Poland Ireland here
@eoinmaguire66912 жыл бұрын
I'm a proud Irishman and like many Irishmen Michael Collins is my Irish hero, The British really met there match with this giant of a man known as the "Scarlett pimpernel" Many of the British only saw him 4 the first time when Dev sent him over 2 England 2 sign the treaty which left England with the north and in Michaels own words "I've just signed my own death warrant" Like many Irish families I have great uncles that are passed a longtime but my great uncle who was 94 when he died in 1989 was on Collins side those men would have and did give up there lives 4 him and country.. At Michael Collins grave there's a plaque around it with hundreds of people's names who fought with him and I'm so proud that my great uncles name is amongst them.... Those extra "army" you said they brought over were the black and tans, No more then a bunch of ex prisoners and people kicked out of the army they were animals they were no soldiers just a bunch of animals... Collins and his.cell assinatinated ligimat targets what those auxiliaries and tans did shooting there way in 2 a football match and killing innocent people was nothing more then murder and war crimes.... Now I want 2 state that this is no way me taking a swipe at the British now thankfully we've come a long way from those dark days so don't want any comments saying I'm this or that against the British I'm not I'm talking strictly on our past.... Even the British held Michael Collins in high regard hence Loyd George and his cabinet ministers went 2 Collin's funeral out of there respect 4 the man.... I even heard Che Guevara got his gurella warfare tactics from Collins or Collins was someone he looked up 2?? Says alot about the man but it's nothing us Irish dont already no, Collins was way ahead of his time... He'll be 100yrs dead August 22/23?? 2022 may him and all those great Irishmen and Women who fought 4 our freedom RIP🙏🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
@theoutlook552 жыл бұрын
Did you enjoy that biopic movie about Collins, starring Liam Neeson?
@eoinmaguire66912 жыл бұрын
@@theoutlook55 I actually thought it wasn't to bad, Didn't know what to expect from Hollywood.. They romaticized it alot but the only romantic part in the film was his love for Kitty, I'm not a huge Liam Nesson fan but he was brilliant everything I imagined Collins to be.... I've seen alot worse biopics let's put that way👍
@theoutlook552 жыл бұрын
@@eoinmaguire6691 gotcha. Thanks. I've never watched it myself but have always wondered.
@KimPhilby2032 ай бұрын
He lived by the Sword Certainly, Ultimately a failure as Eire was mired in poverty and Catholicism for 75 years and joined an economic system controlled by Germany... Britain would have given Eire home rule within the United Kingdom, which in long-term would have been better
@songsmith31a2 жыл бұрын
There is still controversy about the selection of those targeted by Collins' gunmen on Red Sunday as it was originally called. Indeed, my late father's first cousin was a military barrister and lecturer in law. I wonder in retrospect whether he was chosen because of his work in trials that resulted in successful convictions against the Crown's Irish opponents. My father had survived 1917-1918 on the Western and Italian Fronts, and following the Amistice had, as a 21 year old former subaltern, joined the RIC Auxiliary Division, and was posted to the west of Ireland. He had only been there for a matter of months when he must have learnt of the shooting of his cousin, with whom he was close , on that fateful November Sunday. I can only imagine his feelings at that time and place. Young men of his generation were obliged to mature very quickly in the cruellest circumstances.
@tamasmarcuis44553 жыл бұрын
The Cairo Gang was a British death squad or assassination troop, made up of people with experience of targeted murders a tacit used in British colonies. It was the first time since South Africa the British had used the tactic against Europeans. Such operations were organised through the British Admiralty and consequently under Churchill. Sending in murder squads to wipe out the IRA in one grand act is typical of the grandios thinking of Churchill. The IRA had little choice but to wipe the group out including any local police who volunteered to join. The British did still go on to use murder squads particularly against family members of suspected IRA. The effect being more like random terrorism which in my opinion is symptomatic of the collapse of the British forces in Ireland.
@edwardbourke5240 Жыл бұрын
The name Cairo gang is unknown prior to 1958 until used by Rex Taylor and is not mentioned in any of the Bureau of military history witness statements. Secret service and Royal Irish Constabulary formed the murder gangs who assassinated Sinn Fein politicians and activists. The shooting into the crowd at Croke park was done by an RIC group from the Phoenix park Depot who were forerunners of the Igoe gang (identification group). When Lloyd George said he had "murder by the throat" he had flooded Ireland with assassins. See book Murder by the throat assassination collaboration and execution during war of independence.
@johnnotrealname81689 ай бұрын
@@edwardbourke5240Yes, there was no such thing as a Cairo gang. Furthermore such squads are legitimate, depending on the target. It should be noted too that it was the British that started it.
@johnroche75419 ай бұрын
@@johnnotrealname8168 There was no such thing as the "Cairo Gang" . It is a term that was used in retrospect. For example one of the biggest myths is that these were former British intelligence officers that served in Cairo, Egypt in WW1 or that they frequented the "Cairo Cafe" off Grafton Street. Are you familiar with that iconic photo in some history books on the Irish War of Independence that purports to be the Cairo Gang? I know for certain that it is in Dan Breens memoir "My Fight For Irish Freedom". It shows a photo of members of the Crown Forces wearing civilian clothes and some smoking cigarettes. The photo is taken in the grounds of Dublin Castle. Most history books state erroneously that these are the Cairo Gang. Absolute nonsense. This photo was captured by IRA intelligence. With the exception of one I can name everyone in that photo. I can categorically state that everyone in that picture is an Auxiliary Cadet that served with "F" Company. In modern military parlance they were "Black Ops" that targeted HVT(High Value Targets). They moved around in mufti. They mistakenly killed an innocent man named John Lynch who they mistook for the wanted IRA Cork officer Liam Lynch. Not one of these men were killed Bloody Sunday(21st November 1920). In fact you can see two members of this group in Auxiliary uniform in another famous photograph which was taken in February 1921 after the shooting of a British soldier. Only one in the picture that was taken in the grounds of Dublin Castle was killed and that was Cadet Appleford who was killed in June 1921. By the way I am an ex soldier and now a genealogist but military research is my forte. I have studied the Irish War of Independence for over 20 years and have debunked a lot of Republican and British myths. I have also corrected both Irish and British historians in terms of respective books through the publishers of the respective works.
@shaider19823 жыл бұрын
Wow, did you guys interpolated the footage? It seemed smoother than the usual videos from that era.
@surfstrat593 жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation!
@padraigpearse15513 жыл бұрын
My great great uncle was one of the men hand picked by collins to help the squad in the assassinatoons of the cairo gang. As someone from derry, ireland (the second bloody sunday location) I really appreciate this channel bringing attention to irish history.
@adampatterson48573 жыл бұрын
Londonderry
@padraigpearse15513 жыл бұрын
@@adampatterson4857 don't even start
@WhatChaMaCalum3 жыл бұрын
@@padraigpearse1551 Why don't we change it back to county Coleraine?
@WhatChaMaCalum3 жыл бұрын
@UC0BFbizZ5lgxz3opCp2cWBg Its the only county in Ireland to have its name changed I say change it back you have your Derry I have my county Coleriane.
@padraigpearse15513 жыл бұрын
Why don't yous take your petty arguments elsewhere. This is not the place for something so trivial
@memisemyself3 жыл бұрын
Well done on a well researched and unbiased account of these tragic events.
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of outstanding errors in this documentary. See my reply to "C Coady Long" above for details.
@memisemyself3 жыл бұрын
@@johnroche7541 Having read a number of articles by historians on the two events just recently, I see no problems with what he said. There was much more detail that could have been given to explain different aspects of the events but he was constrained by time. There will always be discrepancies in records of events, especially of this nature. There will also be discrepancies in the interpretation of those records. That's the nature of things. Your reply to C Coady Long doesn't enlighten my one bit.
@silverkitty25033 жыл бұрын
It was a VERY VERY anti irish account of events ...and a very pro british events ....i actually suspect he is paid some how by the british. He would NOT be well received by the irish people nor irish nationalists. They would go mad watching this!
@silverkitty25033 жыл бұрын
@@memisemyself He says this is about bloody sunday but fails to mention the massacre at croke park. He is obviously taking the british side for some reason.
@captainohcaptain9588 Жыл бұрын
@@silverkitty2503 fails to mention bloody Friday or the disappeared or the Birmingham bombings as well
@spookerredmenace39503 жыл бұрын
would be awesome to see the Berlin doc on a physical dvd
@cardenasr.28983 жыл бұрын
I'd buy that, rather than watching documentaries in streaming platforms I like having the physical medium
@spookerredmenace39503 жыл бұрын
@@cardenasr.2898 ya streaming platforms either can skip or not load or only last for a small time, physical copy's will last, easily be found, sometimes lol i've lost a few movies in my time lol
@patricklucey88503 жыл бұрын
Forget not The boys of Kilmichael. Thank you Tom Barry and the 3rd West Cork Brigade.
@j241303 жыл бұрын
Why not VHS?
@j241303 жыл бұрын
You know you can download these videos
@dewayneweaver5782 Жыл бұрын
Burn cork was used by soldiers to dark in their faces. Even American football players used it under the eyes to decrease the Suns glare.
@dragosstanciu98663 жыл бұрын
The British were so obsessed with keeping control over Ireland although the island itself is not rich in mineral resources or oil and the people there hated the UK.
@spookerredmenace39503 жыл бұрын
now adays the IRA are liberal and support the British, which is a shame Michael Collins would roll in his grave , also great movie
@connormccann72543 жыл бұрын
dragosstanciu the British were fearful of Ireland falling into French or Spanish hands. France and Spain were long time rivals of Britain and the island of Ireland would be most advantageous for launching an invasion of Britain. Even if the military threat from mainland Europe was absent, Ireland was still on Britains doorstep and from their perspective, was easy pickings. As the saying goes Ireland is easy to invade but is absolutely ungovernable. Britain also genuinely believed Ireland naturally belonged to them and that the Irish people were simply a lesser version of themselves.
@adampatterson48573 жыл бұрын
But that just simply isn't correct now is it....
@ralphbernhard17573 жыл бұрын
@old school honour and respect. How do you know that? Was a referendum or plebiscite ever held?
@MrLorenzovanmatterho3 жыл бұрын
I'm source you mean the British government sought to protect the lives and human rights of Irish Unionists?
@gomey702 жыл бұрын
Great content. My grandfather was in an IRA flying column and was captured by crown forces twice, and escaped twice. We still have the letters he sent to my grandmother from prison.
@captainohcaptain9588 Жыл бұрын
Child killers
@eringobreathtiocfaidharla14463 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful concise video ,watching here with a class of cider..thank you buddy)
@michaelc2252 жыл бұрын
Yes very rare for a video about any form of Irish struggle for independence to not be biased and on the brits side
@Niinsa623 жыл бұрын
About the top notch intelligence work performed by Michael Collins and his organization, I remember a few lines from the movie Garda. Or "The Guard" as it's called in English. An Irish cop trying to bring down a drug smuggling ring that killed his partner needs to know that he is not stepping into IRA turf, and meets with an IRA member. It turns out the drug smuggling has nothing to do with the IRA, so there will be no bad blood if he takes matters into his own hands. And he also gets weapons from the IRA contact, weapons that cannot be traced back to him. Including a small pistol, that the IRA guy says "the homosexuals like, you can hide them in your crotch, no straight bloke would want to check there". And the cop asks in surprise "you have homosexuals in the IRA now?". And the IRA contact answers, a bit ashamed, "yeah, it was the only way we could successfully infiltrate British Intelligence..." :-)
@Niinsa623 жыл бұрын
Great work, I like! Keep it up! Well, I don't like the brutality of Bloody Sunday, but you know what I mean, I like your work. I saw a movie a long time ago called The Wind That Shakes The Barley. Fiction, I think, but it paints a very powerful picture of what it was like back in 1920-21.
@robertthomas42342 жыл бұрын
Jim Sheridan, who made that movie, says it was a document. Remember the British ships laden with food for export?😷
@grahamwood9428 Жыл бұрын
A very balanced and thought provoking programme. Giving all sides of points of view is a rarity nowadays.
@leonardhughes2226 Жыл бұрын
I like your impartial approach. My great uncle was a part of this, with Michael Collins. He was not mentioned in open history, for reasons you should know, if you looked into Michael Collins and the Squad deeply enough. I know it has been a couple of years since you did this video, buy let me know if you would like to chat.
@mikhailv67tv2 жыл бұрын
The squad would make great material for a movie.
@nunceccemortiferiscultu78262 жыл бұрын
It would be ruined by Hollywood. There's no "POC" so they'll bluntly insert painful positive stereotypes into all the prominent charater roles. Black Michael Collins anyone? Lol
@jammyjamer2 жыл бұрын
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 made up scenario
@jimcronin20433 жыл бұрын
In a broad sense, there are several parallels between the British military effort in the Irish War of Independence and the Us involvement in Vietnam.
@brianmccarthy55573 жыл бұрын
So broad, in fact, as to lose any meaning at all.
@jimcronin20432 жыл бұрын
@Razor Mouth☘️ There are several similarities which struck me as I watched the video. First, in both cases government forces were more successful in large population centers but were unable to wield any influence on the countryside, especially in specific areas (Mekong Delta in Vietnam and County Cork in Ireland). Second, the events of Bloody Sunday parallel those of the Tet offensive in which government forces were surprised at the outset but gained the upper hand later, however, the insurgencies created the propaganda myths that they had won a great victory. Third, the insurgencies had developed an energetic and skilled guerilla force (Kilmichael Massacre) while the government forces had fallen into a conventional, lethargic routine. Fourth, in both cases the government gradually escalated forces with the same mission when current strength faced mission failure. Finally, all the while that the fighting was gong on there were peace feelers going on behind the scenes. So there are my reasons for the comment. Perhaps you agree or maybe not. Help me understand why you would respond with a snarky, pejorative comment as you did instead of politely asking for an explanation of my comment. Was it your immaturity? Do you believe that you know everything and others know nothing? Some other reason?
@r.ladaria1352 жыл бұрын
Sure, both Nam and Erie are rainy lands.
@jimcronin20432 жыл бұрын
@@r.ladaria135 My point was that in both wars the occupying forces were unable to control the countryside and their strengths in the cities gave them a false sense of success. In the case of Vietnam it was especially true in the Mekong Delta and in Ireland's case, the County Cork area. Also, in both cases the Americans and British kept responding to lack of success by inserting more forces rather than changing tactics. And finally, in both wars the occupying forces had recently completed successful conventional wars and inserted troops to conduct that kind of war while the insurgents conducted guerilla tactics which bypassed much of the conventional efforts. It's unfortunate that you limited yourself to a snarky comment. As you grow older and mature you will learn to express yourself better.
@r.ladaria1352 жыл бұрын
@@jimcronin2043 So your point is that in both confrontation the rebels deployed the same guerrilla tactics that almost every guerrilla warriors have used since the spanish war of independence against Napoleon. Which one is the equivalent Tet offensive in Ireland? Khe Shan? When the British occupied Manila, they discovered that it was of no use to them because their domain extended to the range of their artillery, from then on they were dead men... when the Italians kicked the Turks out of Libya something similar happened to them, they could hardly get out of Tripoli or Benghazi, of course the desert is much easier to control from the air than the rainy forest and they had some success in the late 1930s. The clear landscape of the Sahara has allowed Morocco to massacre the original settlers and extend its dominate further South with western support. As it is an effort that the kingdom cannot afford I wonder if that will end in an Iran-style uprising ...Despite Morocco is a dry land like a desert but such a mountainous terrain ... like Vietnam.
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!!
@prazcuray13882 жыл бұрын
Never doubt the tenacity and wit of a woman or man that wants their country to be free and independent
@johnroche7541 Жыл бұрын
In wars or conflicts never underestimate the tenacity or stoicism of the ordinary citizens. There is a story from Cork Harbour at the time of the Irish War of Independence where the coffins of fallen British troops are being loaded on to ships to be repatriated back to the UK. An elderly Irish woman states to a British officer "Make sure you bring those coffins back empty and we will fill them again".
@johnnotrealname81689 ай бұрын
@@johnroche7541That seems a bit callous to be honest. I hate loss of life.
@johnroche75419 ай бұрын
@@johnnotrealname8168 Totally agree but members of the Crown Forces committed what would be war crimes under a UN charter.
@johnnotrealname81689 ай бұрын
@@johnroche7541 So did the I.R.A., also that document is one of the most useless of all time.
@johnroche75419 ай бұрын
@@johnnotrealname8168 The Crown Forces murdered 3 Catholic clergymen in cold blood during the conflict and arrested over 40. Obviously every soldier and combatant is directed by his own moral compass. Can you give precise examples of IRA war crimes as I certainly can in relation to Crown Forces in terms of names and dates. There was also cases of rape of Irishwomen by Crown Forces which in one case resulted in death when soldiers from the 1st Bn Northamptinshire Regiment gang raped a woman in Co.Tipperary in December 1920. No British soldier was charged with this rape as they were deployed elsewhere including Russia. I would recommend everyone to read the anti Boer War speeches of David Lloyd George as after reading them it is hard to comprehend that it is the same man when he became Prime Minister unleashed both the Black & Tans and Auxiliaries on Ireland. . By the way the two aforementioned forces have an infamous reputation for their barbaric methods during the conflict but the regular British Army committed war crimes on a par. For example the 1st Essex Regiment,South Staffordshire and Cameron Highlanders in Co.Cork would earn a barbaric reputation and the Royal Scots(Lothian Regiment) would have a nefarious record in Co.Clare. These are just a few examples.
@PCB8883 жыл бұрын
Love the Irish history videos keep them coming! Maybe the Irish Civil War next?
@kevindoyle18843 жыл бұрын
Michael Collins is a legend in modern Irish history RIP
@jackd50893 жыл бұрын
And traitor
@waxCelebration3 жыл бұрын
@@jackd5089 Same thing as the American revolution war against the brits, same thing
@LuisAldamiz3 жыл бұрын
@@jackd5089 - Traitor to whom? To the enemy of Ireland? Traitors are those who lick the boots of the oppressor.
@barra67093 жыл бұрын
@@LuisAldamiz he was controversial as well as popular. Lots of people were mad he agreed to partition of the island and dominion status, then he ordered artillery fire on his old comrades who took over the Four Courts.
@LuisAldamiz3 жыл бұрын
@@barra6709 - OK, that kind of traitor... my bad then. Sorry.
@emmetoconnor51053 жыл бұрын
well researched and objective
@don1jon3 жыл бұрын
So sad to say that these significant events were practically ignored in Ireland, on their 100th anniversary.
@cristianvandenbosse89893 жыл бұрын
Can you sell those maps in the background i would like to have them
@davidskeffington12693 жыл бұрын
It should be always remembered that those who die in any conflict lose. Be suspicious of any leader who wants their followers to die or kill for their cause.
@brianmccarthy55573 жыл бұрын
Oh, horseshit. Sometimes you have to fight for the right things. Those who are most interested in their own advantages are the contemptible ones.
@Prodrentjet2 жыл бұрын
so every military leader in existence deserved to be treated with suspicious intent?
@revmo373 жыл бұрын
Awesome video !
@eduardovaldivia55722 жыл бұрын
Open warfare would have resulted in an Irish version of the Tet offensive in Vietnam. The Tet offensive in military terms was a disaster. The Irish would have been defeated so they made the right decision in that regard and Irish independence still happened.
@philiprufus4427 Жыл бұрын
Collins and Griffiths amongst others made the decsion,he knew The Brits.
@johnnotrealname81689 ай бұрын
@@philiprufus4427The Tet Offensive was morally successful and there was such an attack but I oppose it primarily for the destruction of priceless archives.
@noodlyappendage67293 жыл бұрын
Here we go..
@TheophilusBoone3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Top notch!
@ashebermulugata9 Жыл бұрын
I thought this was about the " Bloody Sunday" in my era.
@ralphbernhard17573 жыл бұрын
London: "Hey Germany, you can't have Danzig, but we can have Ulster." Logic and reason:
@douglasballantine27123 жыл бұрын
Winners and losers in wars, is what it is
@Gillemear3 жыл бұрын
There was one report, only one from an unnamed source, of shooting against crown forces on Bloody Sunday. One out of the near 4,000 people at the match. One from an alleged unnamed witnesses who was supposed to have stood next to the reporters stand. Yet those same reporters, trained and experienced at noticing even the most minute detail, saw nothing of the sort. And this despite the fact that two of the first murdered, two boys sitting in trees overlooking the pitch outside the stadium, had wounds which indicted they were looking towards the oncoming Auxiliaries when hit, not at the stadium, which would be more natural if a loud sound like that of out-going shot came from Croke Park. This was a murderous rampage by ill-disiplined forces, pure and simple
@philiprufus4427 Жыл бұрын
There were some bad elements in The Tans and Auxies of this there is no doubt,many were war damaged. To unleash such men armed to the teeth on a civilian population was asking for trouble some were wanton killers. However men used to fighting the armies of The Central Powers were not going to shrink from the likes of The IRA,who did not help the civilian population by ambushing and chucking bombs into the Auxie trucks. One dreads to think how German or Turkish Troops would have retaliated.The response of The Auxies and Tans was bad enough. The IRA butcher and bolt tactics meant the civvies were going to bare the brunt. Especialy as so many IRA were civvies themselves. One of the Auxie commanders a Brig Crossier resighned in frustration at his attempts to discipline his force.
@johnnotrealname81689 ай бұрын
@@philiprufus4427Yes, it is why I find it difficult to support insurgencies. They require using civilians.
@johnroche75419 ай бұрын
@@philiprufus4427 You conveniently forget that hundreds of the IRA were also Great War veterans and 5 were decorated for bravery including a VC recipient. It is no coincidence that the best IRA units had Great War veterans in the ranks. Also it is no coincidence that the biggest IRA victories in the war were either planned by an IRA Great War veteran or they played a crucial role in their success. Emmet Dalton was IRA Director of Training at the GHQ in Dublin. He was awarded the Military Cross for bravery at Guinchy in September 1916 during the latter stages of the Battle of the Somme while serving with the 9th Bn Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Martin Doyle was an IRA Intelligence Officer in Co.Clare where he was in a British army barracks and passed on information. He was awarded both the Military Medal and more prestigious Victoria Cross for bravery on the Western Front while serving with the Royal Munster Fusiliers. In June 1919 he was at Buckingham Palace for a special event held by His Majesty George 5th for Victoria Cross winners. The most successful IRA Field Commander was Tom Barry who served with the Royal Field Artillery. Frank Percy Crozier was OC of the Auxiliary Division. He was a decorated soldier and had a distinguished military career from the Boer War to WW1 He joined the Ulster Volunteers before the outbreak of WW1. He served with the Royal Irish Rifles in WW1. He trained the Lithuanian Army at the start of the Russian Civil War. He resigned as OC of the Auxiliaries due to their barbarity. He personally investigated the death of Fr Michael Griffin in November 1920 by the Auxiliaries of "D" Company. He also uncovered a plot by members of the same Auxiliary company to murder the Bishop of Killaloe,Co.Galway and throw his body in a river. He wrote an excellent book "Ireland Forever" in the 1930's. Two other Catholic clergymen would be murdered during the conflict. Canon Magner who was 73 was murdered by Auxiliaries from "K" Company in Co.Cork on 15th December 1920. Fr James O'Callaghan was murdered by Black & Tans in the early hours of 15th May 1921. Remember a lot of IRA men were at the Marne,Cambrai,Loos,Gallipoli,Somme,Pashendale,Salonika and Middle East. By the time of the 11th Jult 1921 Truce the IRA volunteer in military terms could be considered a first rate light infantry soldier.
@floydvaughn8363 жыл бұрын
Kilmichael. There's a town in MS of that name. Wonder where the founders were from?
@michaelpalmer86293 жыл бұрын
Being shot while trying to escape was a trick used during the guerrilla campaign in Missouri during the American Civil War as well
@robertthomas42342 жыл бұрын
..and now they're trying to quash legal action into perpetuity! Snakes!!
@tomasstride95903 жыл бұрын
It seems a little incongruous that coming shortly after a war when millions died that the violence here should be characterised as causing outrage. The violence described here would have passed unnoticed on any day during the Great War. I guess soldier's lives just don't merit the same degree of outrage when they are lost.
@padraigpearse15513 жыл бұрын
Its the fact that this was during peace time. If something like this happened the same day as the somme or gallipoli then it would go unnoticed because those are larger events.
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
@@padraigpearse1551 How is it peace time when there is a low intensity insurgency happening?
@RapidAssaultEuro3 жыл бұрын
Most people in Britain weren't directly affected so for them it's peacetime. Same way that British soldiers fighting in Afghanistan wasn't too page news every day, it doesn't really disrupt daily life.
@Fairfax40DaysforLife3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty astonishing what people are outraged at ... and what they aren't. It's all about the publicity. People of color killed by police in USA yearly: several hundreds Children killed by their parents (abortion) in USA yearly: about a million Which one do you keep hearing about on the news?
@Prodrentjet2 жыл бұрын
@@Fairfax40DaysforLife well considering people of color murdered by the institutions meant to protect them are actual people and not just clusters of cells I would say that merits to why the news covers them more....
@Sean-sn9ld Жыл бұрын
Generally speaking if you hear someone mention Bloody Sunday , they're talking about the massacre of 14 innocent civillians , including children , by unprovoked British paratroopers in the 1970's... It was a massacre, it was uncalled for , it was unjust and the British government has formally apologised so please no "the IRA were shooting first" bullish comments please, it's been well established that never happened.
@doubleducks8142 жыл бұрын
It's odd to remember that I lived thru the same history in the 1970's. Bloody Sunday Derry, the burning of streets. My house bombed, shoots fired into my flat. Friends and family murdered. Having to share my school with the British army, they walked on the left in the corridors us kids on the other side. They used us as human shields!
@desmondhull5778 Жыл бұрын
JACKANORY
@captainohcaptain9588 Жыл бұрын
The IRA focused on killing civilian ppl human shields they didn't care who they killed as long as it helped the ethnic cleansing of the northern Irish ppl
@jdb47games Жыл бұрын
And then I woke up.
@doubleducks814 Жыл бұрын
@@jdb47games St Peters School Britons Parade Belfast. Time you woke up.
@spookerredmenace39503 жыл бұрын
my family is from County Cork, but they moved in 1837 to Canada
@MrLorenzovanmatterho3 жыл бұрын
Protestants/Unionists ethnically cleansed by Irish Nationalists?
@MrSchizoid4053 жыл бұрын
@@MrLorenzovanmatterho Irish didn't ethnically cleanse anyone. Could be an Irish catholic.
@MrLorenzovanmatterho3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSchizoid405 Of course we did, as part of the British Empire and certainly in places like Australia and the US. Oh you mean Irish Nationalists? Yes, of course you did, you wanted to kick the British out of Ireland so you could have a totalitarian state where everyone was the same and we Unionists are the British.
@Prodrentjet3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLorenzovanmatterho ciunas tan
@MrLorenzovanmatterho3 жыл бұрын
@@Prodrentjet I beg your pardon? Can you put that in Irish?
@gregoryemmanuel91683 жыл бұрын
“Shot while trying to escape…” standard Brit practice all over the world.
@nunceccemortiferiscultu78262 жыл бұрын
You mustn't have met anyone else because other people get way worse lol.
@leesmith52883 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great
@dumdebadaba2 жыл бұрын
Considering small Ireland and the monstrous resources of the British Empire, it is a miracle the South is a free Republic.Yes, I understand the frustration of division, but that is the case with most countries, liberated by revolution. Sometimes such newly liberated countries are torn in three pieces, instead of just two.
@yoloswaggins7121 Жыл бұрын
It's actually a testament to British incompetence. They should have easily kept hold of Ireland and fully absorbed it into the UK, but instead they allowed the protestant elite to abuse the population for centuries and stuck their heads in the sand as Ireland spiralled out of control.
@jeremiahchairez77943 жыл бұрын
"The Worst...IS YET....TO COME!!!" - Kimberly Guilfoyle
@johnnypatrickhaus8903 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully detailed and respectful. Go raibh maith agat.
@georgethomas44192 жыл бұрын
Tom Barry was a great military mind and game as a lion made of Irish steel
@Legitpenguins993 жыл бұрын
They really need to find a more descriptive name for "Bloody Sunday". In wikipedia I found over a dozen events titled plainly "Bloody Sunday" with the only distinction being the dates
@eruno_3 жыл бұрын
Same with how many IRA there existed as well.
@silverkitty25033 жыл бұрын
@@eruno_ There are like LOTS of IRA organizations even now its hard to keep track of the names and how they are separate etc. TBH most 'ONLINE ' experts are not experts.
@michaelc2252 жыл бұрын
@@silverkitty2503 I mean there's the big ones the IRA the PIRA RIRA OIRA NIRA CIRA
@mysticedge43 жыл бұрын
Broken bottles under children's feet Bodies strewn across the dead-end street But I won't heed the battle call It puts my back up, puts my back up against the wall Sunday, Bloody Sunday - Paul Hewson (Bono)
@michaelc2252 жыл бұрын
That was about a different blood Sunday in northern Ireland in derry 30th January 1972 where the brits shot 24 inoccent civilians having a peaceful March killing 14
@rabihrac3 жыл бұрын
The Irish resistance movement to the British escalating to becoming a state of war between the two is actually shocking! No artillery bombings involved but still, a quite similar result in Cork. Cold blood killing is shocking too, even if it is for the advocated cause of independence; the same applies to false surrenders in my opinion... I couldn't but laugh at the British quitting using the postal services and I am sooo glad that Jesse and TGW crew always win the intelligence war at the end of the day, 100 years later!!
@Eliminator5555 Жыл бұрын
I'm so confused. Wasn't this video as well as many others on this channel in 4K like five days ago? I could swear that I watched this video in 4K about a week ago. Now it's ONLY available in 1080p, which just doesn't compare. Can anyone confirm that this and other vids from the channel were available in 4K just a short time ago? Why would the quality go down? It is possible that I'm mistaken too. But I'm quite certain of having watched it in 4K.
@extrahistory8956 Жыл бұрын
KZbin, the app, has chosen to place 4K content behind a paywall for certain devices. That means that you still watch it in 4K if you have a computer, labtop or newer smartphone, but not if you phone is over an older model
@Eliminator5555 Жыл бұрын
@@extrahistory8956 I have an S22+, which is a new device, and it still doesn't allow me to watch in 4K.
@extrahistory8956 Жыл бұрын
@@Eliminator5555 That's odd. I think you have to update your KZbin app on the Play Store to access it. I knew that KZbin had removed 4K content behind a paywall a few months ago, but they apparently did away with that in mid-October. For my own part, I've been able to see the 4K content on my Acer Chromebook 311 laptop, as well as on my Samsung Galaxy S20.
@kathleankeesler16393 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@DiceStrike3 жыл бұрын
Micheal Never got a trillion subs,so he never did a face reveal.
@natel90192 жыл бұрын
American school kids on SRI drugs take out more people these days. Smh
@Hibernicus19683 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that in the photo seen at 4:23, Michael Collins is seated next to Cathal Brugha. The two men really disliked each other rather intensely from what I've read.
@MrFuzzydumplings3 жыл бұрын
Brugha was intensely jealous of Collins by all accounts
@Hibernicus19683 жыл бұрын
@@MrFuzzydumplings Not surprising -- Collins, who was minister for finance, basically appropriated Brugha's portfolio as minister for defense, and then did his own job, as well as Brugha's, and rather successfully at that. Brugha was understandably jealous of such success, but subsequently let his jealousy turn to spite.
@stevenconfident58833 жыл бұрын
To give credit to Brugha He was no less incredible figure however he never had the charisma Colin had. He refuse to be ever paid for his service as minister of defence instead operating out of a candle shop, he was so badly wounded in the 1916 rising that the British just thought he would die instead of bothering to execute him. Eventually he and Collins would be on opposing sides in the battle of Dublin at the start of the Civil War. He refused to surrender from his poster in the battle of Dublin even after all his comrades did .
@MrFuzzydumplings3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenconfident5883 And Collins still wept upon hearing of his death.
@kenoliver89133 жыл бұрын
Croke Park did far more damage to Britain in Ireland than the morning's shootings did. The IRA was by this time not at all popular among the Irish, which is exactly why Lloyd George thought the worst was over. Until Croke Park.
@brianmccarthy55573 жыл бұрын
Not popular in Dublin, you mean. Typical that the state of opinion in the rest of Ireland is disregarded. Just as it is today.
@icemanire54673 жыл бұрын
Don't know about the their political wing took over 70% of the vote in the general election 2 years before.
@thegunman2.0312 жыл бұрын
Most people liked the IRA
@michaelc2252 жыл бұрын
@@brianmccarthy5557 this is so true. I was born in America to irish parents and grandparents and my grandparents made sure I got sent back to Ireland every year (belfast) so I wouldn't loose my "irishness" and my whole family where involved in the PIRA and in the free state they seemed to enjoy a great deal of support even being harbored and helped to escape capture as well as most arms dumps being in the south
@jamie80322 жыл бұрын
It was Eamon De Valera, who criticized the IRA's hit and run tactics. He wanted the IRA to behave "legitimately" and engage in large scale engagements - he wanted "a show of force". Which led to the assault on the customs House in 1921. An absolute disaster.
@JakusLarkus Жыл бұрын
It's a double-edged sword, and I still don't know whether De Valera or Collins was more in the right. Do you organise into a structured, regular army which shows the world you are a legitimate country with a standing combat force (and risk playing along with British battle tactics and losing), or do you sacrifice that legitimacy for the sake of an overwhelmingly successful guerrilla campaign (and leave the politics of statehood for later)? I think it's the latter that won us the war, but the former that won us our country back.
@icemanire5467 Жыл бұрын
@@JakusLarkus Collins was right militarily. Collins was initially right politically, but Dev despite being a serious victim of revisionism since the 90s was more effective politically. He got Ireland's port's back and he put a stop to land reparations to Britain that Collins signed off on and defiantly declared the Free State a Republic and implemented a constitution that can only be changed by referendum, something that Fine Gael opposed.
@PanglossDr3 жыл бұрын
My family background is Sinn Féin/Fianna Fáil so Michael Collins for us was on the wrong side during the Civil War. Regardless, I consider him one of our greatest.
@jamie80322 жыл бұрын
Collinites as my grandmother calls them haha.
@conlaiarla Жыл бұрын
My background is the opposite of yours and I believe that the greatest achievement of De Valera was in maintaining neutrality during " The Emergency " Respect to you.
@PanglossDr Жыл бұрын
@@conlaiarla Neutrality was a political necessity. Any other leader would have done the same. It was however neutrality in name only, Ireland was very much on the Allies side.
@thebunkerparodie63683 жыл бұрын
really like the color image
@WorkFromHomeFriday3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, but I can not watch them anymore. There are SO MANY mid-roll ads! It's incredibly frustrating. Please disable mid-roll ads. Until then, as soon as an ad starts, I close the video.
@welatxwese80743 жыл бұрын
When a video starts, go to the end. Then click on replay button and voilà no ads :')
@holyarchangelmichael3 жыл бұрын
Just get an ad-blocker.
@holyarchangelmichael3 жыл бұрын
I just deal with those ads you mentioned. The solution to those ads is getting the browser extension called 'Adblock for KZbin' and turning on the 'block annotations' feature. That will get rid of those new ads on KZbin.
@ignatiusTH23 жыл бұрын
I remember reading once that on examination of the bodies of the auxiliaries after the ambush by the coroner. their was at least one of the bodies which had bullet wounds under their arm pits indicating there arms were in the air. Take what you will from that but it's just something interesting I once came across
@uncertified-banger55953 жыл бұрын
Gonna need some proof on that claim.
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn39353 жыл бұрын
Or firing from a prone position? They were surrounded.
@uncertified-banger55953 жыл бұрын
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 Well considering his proof so far is 'I remember reading once' I'm not really inclined to believe him/believe whatever narrative he may be pushing.
@saint4life093 жыл бұрын
@@uncertified-banger5595 It wasn't an unheard of thing for the IRA to execute surrendered police and auxiliaries. Although whether this specific account is true or not, who knows.
@johnroche75413 жыл бұрын
@@saint4life09 Maurice Meade was an IRA man who had previously served with the Royal Irish Regiment in WW1. In his memoirs he admitted to shooting 2 Black & Tans after the Dromkeen ambush in February 1921 in Co.Limerick.
@seanbonella2 жыл бұрын
It's ironic, British like talking about their history and also say their sorry for it etc....but when it comes to Ireland they never gave a second thought about us, much less a damn. We've always been a thorn in their side. They even tried to starve us during the Irish famine. Read about the story about how the Turks trying to land in Dublin with food but the British never let them so they had to go to Co. Louth.
@bloomtv3-thealtchannel3687 ай бұрын
Are we confused by the title of this? The war leading to the bigger part of Ireland being freed started in 1920 - Bloody Sunday but was 1972.
@colincampbell42616 ай бұрын
Diffetent events.
@bloomtv3-thealtchannel3685 ай бұрын
@@colincampbell4261 i think the matter is the same, or not? Ireland is being colonised and heavily exploited since english kings put their grip on it, and to this day there is still the northern part not free of english ruling. That's why we'd say it's the same matter. // What the heck, yes they are different dates on the calendar, but the Creator of this video probably put both events in the title because they're both significant events of the same matter and timeline. // Sorry for my confusion
@davidturner75903 жыл бұрын
I just signed up with Curiosity Stream but was unable to find any of your content when I searched for The Great War, World War Two, or Between Two Wars. I asked for help from the "Help" area, but got nowhere. I know you are not Curiosity Stream, but I hope you can help me.
@MadMax-bq6pg3 жыл бұрын
I got suckered the same way; I’m in Australia, not really much to see. No I won’t be renewing
@micupedro3 жыл бұрын
Greetings to our Irish Catholic friends, freed from the British yoke and heretical Anglican oppression.
@michaelc2252 жыл бұрын
Not all the island is free yet remember our brothers and sisters in the north
@junior14973 жыл бұрын
Shot while attempting to escape= feared for my life
@nunceccemortiferiscultu78262 жыл бұрын
Nice try subverter lol. This isn't America.
@junior14972 жыл бұрын
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 I’m well versed in geography. I know for a fact that the Americas and the British Isles are separated by the Atlantic Ocean. The Americas extend from Alaska to Argentina by the way.
@wB5980 Жыл бұрын
Where does that door behind him lead????
@stiofandundealgan1280 Жыл бұрын
The famous Bloody Sunday in November the 21st 1920 in Croke Park ! Irish civilians killed in the Gaelic stadium by the Auxies and Black and Tans !! And do not forget the Burning of Cork in December 1920 due to Auxies once again !
@michealcahill40943 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about the Kilmichael ambush, the auxies had thrown up there hands implying surrender after the initial ambush, and when the IRA lads went to capture them and accept their surrender the auxies shot and killed 3 IRA men, this starting the firefight again and subsequent killing of the remaining auxies
@michealcahill40943 жыл бұрын
@Velsen Fest the 1920’s IRA were normal people and not bloodthirsty murderers. The auxies were bloodthirsty murderers who slaughtered innocents whereas the IRA would only kill military targets and British informants
@jessealexander26953 жыл бұрын
We discuss the debate about this in the video.
@michealcahill40943 жыл бұрын
@@jessealexander2695 Sorry, I hadn’t seen the entire video when I commented this, just the comments so I thought I’d chime in.
@allanshort82643 жыл бұрын
@@michealcahill4094 what kind of cretin reads the comments and replies before watching the video