Bloody Climax Of The Anglo-Irish War (Documentary)

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In early 1921 the Anglo-Irish War/Irish War of Independence reached its bloody climax. Multiple IRA ambushes led to British soldiers being killed, at the same time the IRA walked on "very thin ice" and overstretched their resources.
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Anonymous. “The Enemy’s Failure”, An tÓglach, Vol. 2, No. 24 (March 1, 1921)
Bell, J Bowyer. “The Secret Army: The IRA” (London: Sphere, 1972)
Dorney, John. “War of Independence: the bloodiest six months”, The Irish Times, (3 June 2020)
Fairbrother, Henry. “The British Army Presence in Dublin” Dublin Historical Record,
Vol. 70, No. 1 (Spring / Summer 2017)
Hopkinson, Michael. “The Irish War of Independence”, (Cork : Gill & Macmillan, 2014)
Lawlor, S. M. “Ireland from Truce to Treaty: War or Peace? July to October 1921” Irish Historical Studies, Vol. 22, No. 85 (Mar., 1980)
O’Donoghue, Florence. “No Other Law” (Dublin : Anvil Books, 1986)
Townshend, Charles. “The Republic: The Fight for Irish Independence 1918-1923”, (London : Penguin Books, 2014)
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Presented by: Jesse Alexander
Written by: Mark Newton, Jesse Alexander
Director: Toni Steller & Florian Wittig
Director of Photography: Toni Steller
Sound: Toni Steller
Editing: Toni Steller
Motion Design: Philipp Appelt
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Maps: Daniel Kogosov ( / zalezsky )
Research by: Mark Newton
Fact checking: Florian Wittig
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[@petergray2712]

"We fought a military war; our opponents fought a political one. We sought physical attrition; our opponents aimed for our psychological exhaustion. In the process we lost sight of one of the cardinal maxims of guerrilla war: the guerrilla wins if he does not lose. The conventional army loses if it does not win."- Henry Kissinger commenting on the Vietnam War

[@ace1776]

“Carpet bomb them. Carpet bomb them all.” - Henry Kissinger

[@dclark142002]

The power of Fabian tactics.... Fascinating that the US would forget the tactics that won it her own independence... History truly is fascinating in that humanity is entertainingly flawed.

[@deprogramm]

dclark142002 plenty of countries “forget”

[@mikhailv67tv]

A reading of HK with Afghanistan in mind means the Taliban has won

[@dclark142002]

@@deprogramm, yes...exactly my point.

[@percamihai-marco7157]

It's great to see Jesse in the studio again after so many months. A great episode. I can't wait for the next one

[@TheGreatWar]

it was a bit of an Odyssey and involved a lot of Covid tests, but he needed to come over for Rhineland 45 filming anyway, so we said we film as much TGW as possible before it's time for the living room again.

[@vaclav_fejt]

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[@JobberBud]

As always, your content is outstanding, and I sympathize with the difficulties history creators run into on KZbin. KZbin can be a great, sprawling, jealous hydra-headed monster.

[@HistoryOfRevolutions]

"A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it" - GK Chesterton

Odd that he's never heard of boats.

[@brianoneil9662]

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[@nusratparveen82]

Yes. I just got this notification 2 or 3 minutes ago.

[@cathanmccann1769]

Love that there is another video of the Ireland. I would love to see a video on the Irish Civil war. Love this Channel from Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@TheGreatWar]

spoiler alert ;)

[@cathanmccann1769]

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[@k-studio8112]

You should take back Northern Ireland from Brits

[@cathanmccann1769]

@@k-studio8112 thank you 🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@oliversherman2414]

As a Brit, I find the Irish fight for independence to be a pretty interesting subject. The Easter Uprising, the Irish War of Independence, and the Civil War are all subjects I became curious about the first time I heard of them. I'm not very proud of the things our countrymen did in Ireland at that time, but it's important to remember what the Brits of today can't be held responsible for what happened over a hundred years ago. We should honour the fallen of both sides and learn from the past so that such violence is avoided in the future. May Northern Ireland, Great Britain, and Ireland all strive for a better future together 🇬🇧❤️🇮🇪

[@MarkHarrison733]

The British Empire should have joined the Central Powers in 1914.

[@oliversherman2414]

@@MarkHarrison733 Why?

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@oliversherman2414 The Central Powers were 100% in the right. The British Empire sided with Serbian terrorists in 1914.

[@rutnoemichamie2035]

Yay! I've finally caught up with all the episodes! I learnt about this channel in August last year (way long after the war was over, I know, but better late than never) when I discovered the Sabaton History channel. I caught up in that channel and started watching every episode in order - including every special, biospecial and OOTT - in November. I've learnt soooo much. Awesome channel, from the beginning till now :)

[@micahistory]

Thanks for these videos on the anglo-irish war, I basically knew nothing about it before so this was very helpful

[@BenGrem917]

Excellent! Love your narration. You're getting more and more animated!

[@somefatbugger]

I do so very much, appreciate every video you publish. I am a huge history enthusiast of 6 decades an avid follower of your channel.

[@indianajones4321]

The war in Ireland is solved and will never have any troubles in the future...

[@JordanHatch777]

😂😂😂😂😂 Say it too my face

[@Roller_Ghoster]

Do you mean this jokingly? I'll take it you do.

[@indianajones4321]

@@Roller_Ghoster yes it’s a joke

[@kevinbourke1847]

Coming soon civil war

[@Roller_Ghoster]

@@kevinbourke1847 violence was used by both sides and failed.

[@jozz2248]

Hardly know about this early part of the conflict. Kudos for the coverage

[@havolei]

Great! I hope you will cover the following Irish Civil War, too.

[@bikeman9899]

Excellent work, Enjoyed seeing images and video I had never seen before.

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

[@OptimusJedi]

Very informative, thank you.

[@marktrotter8971]

I may be two years after release, but thank you for a series of un-biased fact (and truth!) heavy documentaries on the foundations of modern Ireland. This is the quality of production that should be on the curriculum of all UK and Irish schools. Thank you.

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[@micahistory]

i always get excited whenever you make a new video, you're one of the best channels out there

[@sorrybro4890]

You are in every history channel History geeek

[@micahistory]

@@sorrybro4890 yeah glad you noticed

[@eoinmaguire6691]

Michael Collins a true Irish legend 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@seanivan5421]

Anyone who says otherwise has their head in the sand

[@seanohare5488]

Definitely

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@seanivan5421 Collins betrayed Ireland.

[@micahistory]

Amazing video, you're one of the few channels where I enjoy watching half an hour videos

[@frederickbays405]

wish they were longer My attention span is hrs long unlike kids today who are may flies.

[@micahistory]

@@frederickbays405 in that case you can find channels who do 1 hour or longer

[@Ezekiel903]

nice to see that the newer videos from The Great War are more objective and telling real stories without using some glamor words, like bravery eccetera, because in a war human are human, no matter in which part of the world

[@craigkohlhoff643]

Great video!! well done.

[@oldesertguy9616]

Another great, concise, informative video. Well done.

[@seanohare5488]

Definitely

[@japeking1]

3rd generation "English" with Irish catholic ancestors and in Catholic schools of the '50s and '60s there was none of this explaoned or even mentioned.

[@ClearPathBeats]

That’s because tories and unionists don’t want us Catholics to know their history of subjugating us

[@japeking1]

@@ClearPathBeats In the 50's, we Catholic kids did have "fights" with the Prody dog kids but by the early 60's that social tension just faded away.... still despised the Tories but religion didn't seem to come into it any more. We might have been an isolated "liberal" pocket ( Acklam, Teesside ). Now I think of it, my "missing" history might have been because half of us were pushing into a science only school stream and I missed out on the subjects ( history, geography, art ) that I actually liked.

[@cobbler9113]

@@ClearPathBeats I think that’s because he Catholic Church in Ireland supported the British government at this time and excommunicated IRA members.

[@Mixcoatl]

Genuinely surprised by how friendly the comments section is. Was expecting an absolute firestorm.

[@MrLorenzovanmatterho]

Because it's truly balanced.

[@seanbonella]

...and youtube censors too quickly

[@matematic4837]

Great job guys

[@seanohare5488]

Very well done very interesting and informative

[@brokenbridge6316]

Nicely informative video.

[@AP-qr8en]

Are you guys planning to continue this series into the Irish Civil War? Hope so!

[@macker33]

One of the last british soldiers killed in the war was shot about ten minutes walk from where i live. He was out for a walk because he thought he would be safe because the treaty was due to take effect at midnight, he was picked up by two volunteers and escorted to a quarry and shot. On my road a wannabe double agent was shot and killed, he was ordered to kneel, was allowed to say his prayers and was shot.

[@seanmacuaiteir437]

Would that be the three soldiers shot in Cork City?

[@macker33]

@@seanmacuaiteir437 Just the guy out the lough. I think he was picked up where galvins off license is now in barrack street so he didnt have far to go.

[@readingforwisdom7037]

Very balanced thank you

[@bruceday8464]

Excellent program. Too bad KZbin is cutting its own throat. Many documentaries and programs are moving to other growing outlets.

[@flemhawker9134]

Hi Bruce, what outlets are you referring to. I’d like to check them out if you’d be so kind.

[@davidtuttle7556]

@@flemhawker9134 Patreon.

[@davidtuttle7556]

Also curiosity stream. And Great Courses Plus.

[@ropaul8006]

Some great stuff on odessy. No adds either

[@eoin79]

Thanks Jesse, for your thoroughness and fairness. Mayo4Sam

[@Rev-bb9ej]

I haven't gotten notifications even though I have the bell on. I missed nearly two months of content because videos stopped showing up in my feed. Pretty weird.

[@paulhoward3182]

Great job,

[@rabihrac]

A fascinating episode about mysterious Ireland (at least for a viewer from the Levant). Well done Jesse and crew for this exciting episode about the Irish war of independance

[@johnroche7541]

Check out the book "The Irish War of Independence" by Michael Hopkinson. Also check out the book "Guerilla Day's in Ireland" by Tom Barry. Tom Barry was an Irishman who served with the British Army(Royal Artillery) during WW1 and saw service in the Middle East(Mesopotamia(modern day Iraq). When he got home to Ireland he joined the IRA and became the most successful rebel IRA commander in the conflict. A lot of IRA men were ex- British soldiers from WW1. Also check out the following movies with an Irish War of Independence theme. "Shake Hands with the Devil" which is from the 1950's and is in black & white. "The Wind that Sheakes the Barley", "Fools of Fortune" and "Michael Collins".

[@rabihrac]

@@johnroche7541 Thanks a lot John Roche

[@BHuang92]

I studied modern Irish history and my professor made several quotes, "Michael Collins is the father of urban guerilla warfare" and "The IRA were Cadillacs in terrorism".

[@Roller_Ghoster]

While the Provisionals were sectarian murderers.

[@PORRRIDGE_GUN]

@@Roller_Ghoster So, there were no Protestant sectarian murderers? Catch yerself on, fella.

[@Roller_Ghoster]

@@PORRRIDGE_GUN The Provos killed more Catholics than any other side in the conflict. Go boil your head "fella".

[@ronancunningham1705]

@@Roller_Ghoster The provos were only defending the catholics living in northern Ireland

[@Roller_Ghoster]

@@ronancunningham1705 bollox. Defending Catholics? Lets not mention Jean McConville, Columba McVeigh or the other Disappeared.

[@modnack5768]

Very nice Video as always! I have little question when did you guys will make the Video about the Lithuanian war of Independence?

[@marks_sparks1]

Why was my reply deleted?

[@Game_Hero]

they already did one I think

[@modnack5768]

@@Game_Hero No, only about the Polish-Lithuanian war which most Historians say as far as I know was a Part of the Independence war but not the Main fight against the Bolseviks.

[@robzilla730]

SUBBED!

[@seanivan5421]

6:08 you’ll see the Irish National Army logo and a caption on the car that reads the Fighting 2nd. This is the 2nd Motor Squadron of the (now) Defence Forces of Ireland which exists to the modern day as 2 Brigade Cavalry Squadron, based at Cathal Brugha Barracks in Dublin. It went on to be Ireland’s first blooded unit overseas during the Congo crisis in the early sixties, if I’m not mistaken.

[@Paddy234]

Yet did nothing to help their fellow countrymen in the North? For that reason they will never be celebrated

[@seanleonard9381]

Great video as usual. If anyone is looking for a more in depth look at the Irish war of Independence,I would strongly recommend the Irish nation lives youtube channel.

[@jameslebron2403]

I like the way he says de Valera ;)

[@vygotsky17]

What about the Crossbarry ambush, the successful rearguard action by Tom Barry's column of just over 100 men against 1200 British troops, plus auxiliaries, on a search and destroy mission? The closest thing the war came to a pitched battle, fought over just one hour on the 19th of March 1921, and one of the largest military actions of the conflict. Barry's men launched a series of preemptive ambushes against the approaching British columns to break out of a closing circle with only 40 rounds per man and successfully avoiding annihilation. One of the leading British commanders of the Essex regiment was a major Percival who would later, as Lt. General Percival , surrender Singapore to Japanese force half the size of his own!

[@jamesoconnor5908]

I recommend that you read Guerrilla Days in Ireland if you haven't, its Tom Barry's memoirs.

[@TheGreatWar]

there is only so much detail we can cover in each episode. the particular challenge for this conflict is the disparity in visual sources. lots of British photos etc. from arrests. But not so much from the IRA side. That's doubly true for the engagements. The attack on custom house was an outlier here that we found so many photos. And it's not just a question about if visual material exists, but also if we can get permission to use them for a reasonable price.

[@Guinness1066]

Attempted encircling of troops by a visible foe, followed by by withdrawal/retreat....not really noteworthy for the video tbh

[@PORRRIDGE_GUN]

@@TheGreatWar Some thoughts on this. Cameras were expensive in the twenties. The forces of the crown had embedded journalists and photographers, the IRA had few, if any. Photography required fixed support services of chemists and darkrooms, which the IRA did not have much access to. And finally, few members of a clandestine army would want to be photographed, knowing that there was always the risk of that photo ending up in the crowns intelligence files on you, especially if the crown forces raided the darkrooms.

[@kek7320]

This confirms previous thoughts of mine that Percival was a defeatist who majorly screwed up in Singapore

[@petermortimer6303]

Thanks for that excellent video. One on the Irish Civil War seems a logical next step?

[@extrahistory8956]

They said it's going to be covered in August or September of this year.

[@seanivan5421]

It’s up

[@360grant]

This series has been unreal

[@TheGreatWar]

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[@OGAR35]

I signed for CS, but can't find my way to Nebula. What am I doing wrong?

[@micahistory]

all that violence and it ends up being a stalemate, pretty sad

[@johnroche7541]

Strictly speaking you are correct but the British would withdraw from 26 out of 32 counties of Ireland. Other countries would look at the military and political aspect of the conflict which would inspire future anti colonial conflicts and wars of liberation. The British Empire would implode and be dismantled over the following decades and historians would look at Ireland as the catalyst for this. Other countries within the British Empire such as India would be influenced by Ireland. Britain knew that success or lack of it in Ireland could have a domino effect on the nations within the Empire.

[@micahistory]

@@johnroche7541 yes

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

Not at all, the republic of Ireland came into being.

[@micahistory]

@@SirAntoniousBlock yeah but i meant at the moment

[@macker33]

Ireland got its independence, wouldnt call it a waste of time.

[@zlanemerennah]

Don’t forget to like) I’m watching since 1915, and I owe a lot of them

[@johnkelly9463]

The Kilmichael ambush was just one of dozens of ambushes on British troops en convoy, the terrain was favorable for the guerilla forces, these attacks on troop carriers, armoured cars and tanks, crippled the British army and auxiliary forces, and was a major defeat for them, as they lost hundreds of men between 1919 - 1921.

[@seanohare5488]

True well said

[@deadgoon2170]

"Top educational creators lkke us"... What a FLEX!!!

[@189Blake]

100 years later the issue remains unsolved.

[@Barnaby_bo]

Can you give us links to the other episodes?

[@Typing.._]

6:30 “those aren’t weapons they are just bicycles and cooking equipment” 🥸🤫🤫🔩🧨

[@justatiger6268]

0:52 I wonder if that British general inspired the character of Mccready in V for Vendetta.

[@peterdiaz3796]

This is the Lord’s work

[@frederickbays405]

which Loads the UK has hundred of them and so do many other nations

[@nelsonchereta816]

It was enough for the IRA to survive. They never had any hope of defeating the British militarily, but were able to achieve political victory by continuing the struggle until the British public and government lost the will to fight. Just what the Vietcong did to US forces more than half a century later.

[@seanohare5488]

Yes true the viet cong leader ho chi Minh was working as a waiter in London in 1921 and was inspired and learned from the Irish war of I independence to use that 45 years later

[@finbarrmcgrath1686]

Forget not the boys of Kilmichael Those brave lads so gallant and true Who fought ‘neath the Green flag of Erin To conquer the Red White and Blue.

[@seanohare5488]

Great victory great song

[@Mr110074]

14:26 The closed captions censored General Hanway’s last name.

[@AnCoilean]

Should be noted the despite the truce the war continued in Belfast

[@alanmcbride6658]

Indeed. Belfast was murderous.

[@seanohare5488]

True basically unknown

[@dcanedemboyz7431]

You guys should make videos on africa and asia

[@TheGreatWar]

we covered non-european focused topics over the winter. and we will make more.

[@macmiller1678]

What happened to the guy who did the earlier videos?

[@extrahistory8956]

Indy Neidell is currently working for the World War 2 Week-by-Week series, while Jesse, the current narrator is also doing a Franco-Prussian Week-by-Week series on the channel Real Time History.

[@vandor1976]

"The unionist felt Briton abandoning them" echo from the past. That is happening right now in Northern Ireland .

[@goldeneagle3088]

Kinda ironic really

[@Guinness1066]

True story....just a shame that all those lives lost for independence to then have Brussels running the ROI...also a shame they couldn't see 20+ years in the future to get dominion status, then independence without a shot beinf fired.

[@jamesygerrard2626]

Yeah, but Britain didn’t abandon the Unionists of Ulster. The South abandoned the northern Catholics

[@vandor1976]

@@jamesygerrard2626 In 1921 Britain did abandon the Unionists in the today call Republic of Ireland. And today 100 years later in 2021 Britain do abandoning the Unionist in the rest of Ireland, include the Ulster

[@theoneandonlydetraebean8286]

@@Guinness1066 spotted the Unionist

[@stpat7614]

Why does everyone mispronounce de Valera's name? The Irish say "Dev Alera" and this narrator here says "Day Valera". It's de Valera!

[@TheLastAngryMan01]

I suspect that Jesse’s pronounciation is closer to the original Spanish than anyone’s in Ireland. Funnily enough I once shared a classroom with his granddaughter, the former minister Síle De Valera, and have played football against his great grandson, who weirdly is born and bred Italian.

[@zvonimir2096]

What happened to Indy?

[@extrahistory8956]

Indy Neidell is currently working for the World War 2 Week-by-Week series, while Jesse, the current narrator is also doing a Franco-Prussian Week-by-Week series on the channel Real Time History.

[@EdinProfa]

Any videos about China coming?

[@TheGreatWar]

yes, in May.

[@swedichboy1000]

You look like Markoolio, dude.

[@beachboy0505]

Excellent video, educated Civil war is the most brutal of all wars, you are killing your own family. Negotiations and arbitration is best. Blessed is the peacemaker

[@seanohare5488]

Well said

[@cruachankeith]

Not sure why this wasn't mentioned ... especially as it was such a main part of the Hollywood movie 'Michael Collins# but ... De'Valera sent Collins to the UK to negotiate with Lloyd George. De'VAlera did this intentionally as he knew there was no way they would allow an Irish republic. After all the fighting, Collin knew this was the best offer we would get and seen it as a stepping stone to full independence. De'Valera did not agree .... as I'm typing this I'm thinking you may be planning to mention this in another video lol

[@djquinn11]

When boyhood's fire was in my blood I read of ancient freemen, For Greece and Rome who bravely stood, Three hundred men and three men; And then I prayed I yet might see Our fetters rent in twain, And Ireland, long a province, be. A Nation once again! A Nation once again, A Nation once again, And lreland, long a province, be A Nation once again!

[@RichardAugustMatthew19Man]

Well, KZbin has an anti-pornography community rule... until you find the hard-core pornography on KZbin using key search terms.

[@luishernandezblonde]

Now I miss you Michael Collins.

[@SP-mp9yi]

What ?

[@seanohare5488]

Me too

[@danfox5910]

Brilliant as a proud irish republican, brilliant documentary

[@mrpink8951]

100 Years Ago should be this channel's new name

[@Marinealver]

I second this!

[@percsaturn6963]

Where is Indy

[@bruhmoment-wq5cy]

In the World War 2 channel

[@LuGer212]

heheheheh climax jk, great episode!

[@jayklink851]

👍👍

[@edward9674]

Is it possible to watch battle of berlin somewhere free?

[@PORRRIDGE_GUN]

Was it made for free? $15 USD a year practically is free.

[@FrankDad]

I got me a band new flack jacket and a pair of kink boots...

[@perfectlygoodslouch5212]

Love that song

[@gorkema5307]

As a Turkish person, I'm glad both the Irish & the Turkish made 1921 such a bad year for the British. :D

[@MarkHarrison733]

The Ottoman Empire had already ceased to exist.

[@Salty3439]

Hmmmmmm, are you sure?????

[@arkadisevyan]

How many british and irish wars were there?

[@thebomb78]

It's gone on for over 800 years

[@terryfoyfoy7926]

The Irish started invading Britain pre Roman times

[@yoloswaggins7121]

That is a difficult question to answer as it depends on your definition of "Irish" and "British". Pirates from the island of Ireland were raiding Britain back in the BCs, at a time when the native Britons were all Celtic speaking and there were no Anglo saxons.

[@spudskie3907]

First...no?

[@FranciscoHernandez-lz5nb]

51 battallions... How many men are¿

[@johnroche7541]

At the time of the 11th July Truce 1921 the British Crown Forces in Ireland were over 58,500 soldiers and almost 16,000 policemen. I have no figures for RAF,Royal Marines and Royal Navy personnel. The British had at least 80,000 men in Ireland. They also had armoured cars,lorries,artillery,planes,calvary,both heavy and light machine guns and inexhaustible ammo resources. The IRA might have an impressive strength on paper but in terms of armed men they could only put into the field at their peak was 2,500 to 3,500 men. The IED was the most powerful weapon in the IRA arsenal. To use modern military parlance there was a troop surge in Ireland from April to July 1921 which involved thousands of Bditish troop reinforcements to deal with the escalating insurgency.

[@cpt_bill366]

Thanks for explaining some of the complexity of this conflict. Too many people (especially Americans) oversimplify Ireland's fight for independence as a fight against colonialism. It is difficult for me to explain my views to ANYONE as an Irish-American protestant born to Irish and English protestant parents. Too many people assume Irish = catholic, and that having Irish heritage = IRA sympathies. If anyone is looking for a deep dive into the conflict, I read a great book about this called "Hope Against History" (I have no ties to this book or its author)

[@seanmacuaiteir437]

It literally was a fight against colonialism. That's not oversimplification.

[@cpt_bill366]

@@seanmacuaiteir437 How does killing innocent Irish protestant civilians advance the cause against British colonialism? Is it a crime to not be Catholic?

[@seanmacuaiteir437]

@@cpt_bill366 that's why the IRA fought the British army and RIC(the latter mostly Catholic) instead of just killing loads of innocent Protestants.

[@PORRRIDGE_GUN]

@@cpt_bill366 'Is it a crime to not be Catholic?' According to some left footers I've run into...Yes! But you are right. Irish nationalism is supposed to be about being Irish first and foremost. It was supposed to be a secular state IIRC. Were not some of the first Irish nationalists from the protestant faith, and even English in heritage? I consider myself Irish. But never Catholic or Protestant.

[@markilleen4027]

@@cpt_bill366 irish protestant and irish catholics killed colonists

[@TheMormonPower]

That's all fine if you haven't lost your job due to Covid, if so-Jessie and the gang don't give a fu@&

[@johnmc3862]

I-ur-land or Ire-land.

[@nickhomyak6128]

Who exactly were supplying arms to the IRA; the American Irish?

[@paulwalsh598]

They were mostly stolen during attacks on police barracks during the early months of the war.

[@jamescoughlan8193]

Although efforts were made to bring weapons from Germany by submarine but informers as usual made this unsuccessful

[@paulwalsh598]

@@jamescoughlan8193 Not in that time period. War of independance was after WW1, so there were no German submarines.

[@jamescoughlan8193]

@@paulwalsh598 they tried to have them landed from a German sub at banna strand in kerry for the easter rising 1916 which is really when the war of independence started in my opinion.

[@paulwalsh598]

@@jamescoughlan8193 1916 was a sepqate event imo, at that stage the bulk of the nationalist support was still for The Irish Parlimentary party and Redmonds volunteers. It was the British reaction to 1916 that gave rise to the war of indepence and the switch of support from Redmonds party to Sein Fein. However the point remains that the question asked was where the IRA got weapons and the answer to that was not from Germany but rather they were stolen from the RIC mostly, and from private hands secondly. I am aware of German attempts to land guns in Ireland both in Kerry and Roger Casements attempt on his yacht, but most of these attempts failed in the first instance and secondly most of the guns sucessfully smuggled in were captured upon the surrender of the 1916 rebels.

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

We solved the question of Ireland boys it will never come up again

[@JordanHatch777]

Are you sure? Scottish and Irish will have there nations reuinted by force or by will sooner or later.....

[@saint4life09]

@@JordanHatch777 I mean if Ireland joins the UK by choice then they'll be united under the crown again

[@arat2757]

@@saint4life09 never going to happen.we enjoy our freedom

[@saint4life09]

@@arat2757 Yeah I was pointing out the absurdity of the comment in that Scotland and Ireland have only ever been united under the UK.

[@arat2757]

@@saint4life09 i mean your not wrong Edit:just remembered scotland was once an independent country

[@lhpoetry]

I don't know about that final comment...the Cold War channel runs into frequent complaints of plagiarism and the producer has an Uzbek last name...I mean, not that that in itself that per sé means something...just saying that there might be other channels with mystery...

[@terryfoyfoy7926]

Great War 1914 .1918

[@mountainhobo]

Lloyd George was a calamity for the British Empire.

[@austinm6056]

100 year war

[@headtheballington]

The attack on the customs house was a disgrace on a military and cultural level. Such a stupid waste for stupid symbolism. Priceless historical records going back to the 1600s were destroyed in the fire. Another wretched feather in Dev's cap.

[@seanmacuaiteir437]

It worked though. It wasn't symbolic it destroyed the ability of the Brits to administrate Ireland.

[@seanohare5488]

Not really a phyric Victory but a Victory

[@IR240474]

Dev had Mike shot, there I said it.

[@seanohare5488]

Devalera was awfully machiavellian

[@seanmccann8368]

'I was born on a Dublin street, where the loyal drums did beat, and the loving english feet , they walked all over us. And every single night when my da would come home tight, he'd invite the neighbours over with this chorus...............'

[@PORRRIDGE_GUN]

Downloaded onto my phone via Deezer. Cheers for the steer. Great song and great lyrics

[@seanmccann8368]

@@PORRRIDGE_GUN Despite Brady's Ham trying to destroy it.

[@joseaca1010]

Come out ye black and tans, come out and fight me like a man!

[@seanmccann8368]

@@joseaca1010 There's no fooling you.

[@jamesygerrard2626]

@@joseaca1010 the IRA didn’t do too much fighting like men - they sneaked around planting bombs and killing hundreds of off duty police and innocent civilian men, women and children for 25 years in the 1970s to 90s. The IRA actually killed more of their own community than the British Army did!

[@philsoro491]

Tiocfaidh ar la

[@johnderevolt5065]

Sinn fein are anti irish communists.

[@hmvollbanane1259]

I'd have completely different question on the ira. As the entire renewed Irish struggle for independence was facilitated by a general cultural trend of reviving Celtic culture or what people thought it to be, was there also a revival of a pseudo celtic pagan religion as it took place during the same general time frame in e.g. Germany with the nordic gods coupled with hyper nationalism. Or was the division along catholic and anglican identity too important to allow for any such efforts on the republican side? Or in other words: where there once open acts of fighting took place ira members with celtic war paintings and spiked up hair partaking in the fighting?

[@yoloswaggins7121]

I don't think so. As far as I'm aware, even the most extreme nationalists were staunchly Catholic, as it was the only sure way to differentiate between "native" Irish people and the Anglican Irish elite.

[@TheLastAngryMan01]

It’s hard to discern if your question is serious, given its rather silly premise, but yes, there was a revival of Gaelic culture in the decades prior to the Easter Rising. Some elements of this (Irish sports such as the Gaelic Athletic Association, Irish theatres such as the Abbey in Dublin, a more general Irish literary movement) were more successful than others (an attempted revival of the Irish language).

[@johnthomson6507]

It is entirely correct the peace treaty of 1922. Although 10% of the free states population was protestant. The civil war cost 4000 lives. As opposed to the 414 the British murdered. Unfortunately the British state is very bad at these things as this is very current.I think alot of people need to revisit this event in history.

[@seanmacuaiteir437]

Revised Civil War death tolls now place the dead at about 1600 not 4000

[@johnthomson6507]

Thanks the stats were from a book I read in the 1990's. What Scotland in a much more muted form is what Ireland had through most of the,19th and early 20th centuries. Although obviously without the terrible effects of the potato famine and mass migration.

[@johnroche7541]

@@seanmacuaiteir437 I may have replied to some of your posts on other Irish War of Independence sites. Anyway this is an excellent episode from the Great War team. However some of the facts and figures are totally wrong. I have researched this conflict for over 20 years that has brought me to the archives and museums in London,Dublin and Belfast. I have also visited the libraries both at local and national level of both countries. I have also visited the regimental museums in Scotland, Wales and England. I would question his death toll for the conflict. I am not saying my figures are 100% correct but his is too low. His casualties for police is too low. Over 430 policemen were killed as a result of hostile action and this figure does not include dozens policemen killed as a result of accidents,suicide or blue on blue(friendly fire). For police casualties check out the works of Richard Abbott and Jim Herlihy who are police historians and have served as police officers in Northern Ireland and Republic respectively. However I have come across a couple of policemen who were killed accidentally but do not appear in either of these works. There is a Roll of Honour for police casualties in Belfast for this conflict and there is also one in Lancashire,England which has a casualty roll for all police casualties from the UK(from the founding date of all British police forces)including Ireland(pre-independence). I have also researched regular British Army figures. Around 180 British soldiers were killed as a result of hostile action. Their deaths can be confirmed by the CWGC. This figure for British soldiers could rise as there is some British soldiers who went "missing" and their fate unknown. However some of these missing soldiers were captured by the IRA and executed and secretly buried. For example the bodies of 2 British soldiers from the East Lancashire Regiment were found near Killarney in Co.Kerry in 1926. Hundreds of British soldiers died in Ireland as a result of accidents,suicide and sickness. You must remember that a lot of British soldiers died in Ireland as a result of the Spanish Flu after WW1 and I dont incorporate these in my figures. In Co.Limerick for example in the spring of 1919 over 30 British soldiers died as a result of Spanish Flu. I know that in Ireland there was a massive undertaking to chronicle all the deaths from 1916-1923 period. I think the title of this project is "The Dead of the Irish Revolution". One of the men involved is a teacher at TCD. I gave him a list of Royal Marines that were killed in Ireland during the conflict that he was not aware of. It is virtually impossible to come up with a 100% accurate death toll for any war or conflict.

[@seanohare5488]

The British is very bad in slot of things