Professor Tanya K. Hernandez on African American & Afro-Latino Relations

[@v.a.993]

The sad and most interesting thing is that Black Americans are the most prosperous of the African diaspora (e.g., Civil Rights Movement etc.), and the Latinos, Asians etc. come to the U.S. and benefit from the anti-racism work done by Black Americans yet want to hate on Black Americans.

[@bocajr4life]

First Latinos predate blacks in the Americas. Second, Latinos as a group as well as Asians do better than African Americans in income, education etc. Even new Latino and Asian immigrants outscore blacks. As yourself why?

[@nosceteipsum-mw7nj]

How foreigenrs benefits from the black american rights movements ??? When many times these same foreigners are discriminated too amd also by certain segment of afroamericans

[@nosceteipsum-mw7nj]

By the way afriamericans made achivements but taht doesnt mean therea prospeprous…….many of them choose to live in ghetos and receive benefits from gob

[@v.a.993]

@@nosceteipsum-mw7nj the fact that asian refugees, Hispanic refugees etc.get social welfare benefits, education benefits etc. is all thanks to Black Americans and the civil rights movement and other social justice movements of the 1960s under the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. Unfortunately foreigners are often rude to Black Americans and do not respect the historical sacrifices and contributions of Black Americans that have made the U.S.A. worth coming to. Freedom ain't free...the somebody who paid the cost for foreigners seeking freedom were Black Americans.

[@v.a.993]

@@nosceteipsum-mw7nj there is lot more to the story as to why so many Black people are poor. Institutions and systems were designed to create winners and losers in this county. You'd really have to study U.S. history in depth to unpack what has happened since 1776 to cause the conditions that you see today. What you see today is far more complex than people choosing to live in a ghetto. The question is about the options that they have had. Yes, many could make better life choices to improve their socio-economic conditions, but again the system has set people up to fail /lose by limiting their options.

[@lazarocedeno5270]

I am African Cuban born. Yes, this conversation is so relevant. Always defending my African ancestry. Defending it with my white American friends. Always defending it with some of my Latino friends. Always having to stress my pride in my ancestry..

[@williammartinez840]

I understand. I'm Black my father is Puerto Rican and Puerto Rican friends would say to me "you're Puerto Rican" as if it was a get out of jail free card, they didn't mean any harm, just thought they'd help me escape being Black but I would tell them I'm Black and I'm proud and I would not have it any other way.

[@Ichinen220]

It’s nice to hear 2 women with an AfroLatino background discuss this topic

[@williammartinez840]

My father is Puerto Rican, I am Black. Often Latino friends would say to me"you're Puerto Rican" as if it was an escape from Blackness, they didn't mean any harm but I'd let them know"I'm Black and I'm proud, and I wouldn't have it any other way". What they don't understand is, unlike them, no one is going to make me ashamed of my Blackness, I thank God for it.

[@lazarocedeno5270]

And Yes. My appearance to some persons may be ambiguous. Yes, like many Latinos I enjoy a multitude of so called races. My father, beautifully dark tone. His mother, Llella, told me her father was African. My fathers father was from the Dominican Republic. My mother’s mother was ethnic Chinese. My mother’s father was ethnic Spaniard. I am a proud person. Very proud of my African ancestry. Yes, I am by definition, African American. I always claim being black. Do I deny any of my ancestry? No.

[@RicJoJo]

Excellent discussion. Thanks!

[@sano1062]

When i visited Costa Rica 🇨🇷 in 1998 i quickly understood there's a caste system there based on race and ethnicity. In a country so small that a person can drive to from Atlantic to the Pacific coasts in the same day there are at three separate groups that have nothing to do with each other. There's the descendants of the Spanish conquistadors, the latinos and Caribbeans and then there is a large community of "gringos" which are expats and consulate personnel Americans, Britain and Europeans that hang out together. When i visited my POC was a Latina from Nicaragua living in Costa Rica. Her friends were all Latinos from different countries and the Caribbean. Although i lodged with a American/Jamaican couple i was not invited to the gringo events because of the company I kept. It just blew my mind that I an American/British citizen visiting Costa Rico for 1 week could be marginalized and be treated as a Caribbean/Latino by people just like me because of my friends. It was easy for me to identity the descendants of the Spanish as their physical apperaracne was totally different from the Latinos. I stay there during the Thanksgiving week and was excluded from the gringo Thanksgiving Dinner 🎉party. Lastly stop using Afro in reference to melanated Americans because we are the indigenous people of the Americas. My ancestry for example is Cherokee, Blackfoot, Choctaw, Scottish, Irish and Northern and Southern European. No Afrikan ancestry. That's the case for the vast majority of melanated North Americans.

[@takeaxsh00]

How can black be problematic when it's the color of the universe eumelanin is nature.

[@FASBLAQUE]

You touched on something that has been hidden for thousands of years.I'll give you a hint and you can go from there. Tall whites?

[@colinchampollion4420]

I am a natural blonde, green eyes, White v tanned skin, Scandavian facial features, and stand 6'1" yet both my parents are from Mexico😂🎉😊!

[@sundiataoba-zq1bm]

Black Americans put the work in here in America.hispanics benefit from the fruits of the labor

[@2breal673]

I've had very dear friendships with Hispanic people. But this is also very real talk.

[@foyplummer2943]

Thank you very much for your contributions to our understandings.

[@2collinss]

The US Census has tabulated 47M Black people in the US with Black Latinos totaling 3M of that 47M

[@siriuslyspeaking9720]

I would think that Afro-Latinos would refrain from identifying as African-American, because it is a question of culture. The cultures are not the same. African-American as a designation is supposed to identify a very specific group of people. Everyone should know who it refers to. The term Black has a broader meaning. The most important difference between the two is that Black is a concept that was created by Whites and thus is looking at us from their perspective or an external perspective, While African-American is from our own perspective - our being those of us Black-Americans whose ancestors were enslaved in the United States in earlier period of enslavement. There can be exceptions of course, but this is the general rule. They see us all the same from their perspective, but we recognized our distinctions. We African-Americans cannot identify or relate to a culture prior to the one we developed in the U.S. Other Black-Americans can and so that is how they see themselves after the national identity of American that we all share as citizens. Many African-Americans are not as worldly as other Black people of the African Diaspora. Most of us have lived a very segregated life and our exposure to other cultures is been very limited. Many of us see all Black people from the English speaking Carribean as Jamaicans and see all Hispanics as Mexican. Many are not comfortable or open to people unlike themselves. Of course, many of us are accepting of others and their culture, especially the food. It surprises me that more of us not take to the music the music of the Spanish and English speaking Carribean has had a significant influence on African-American music. Jelly Roll Morton who is said to be the father of jazz, is credited as saying jazz has to have the Latin tinge. African-Americans or a significant number of us from my perspective seem insecure about our culture. They don't want to even think that other Black people have had an influence on our culture particularly the music. Hip-Hop argues over its origin. Despite the Jamaican Kool Herc being acknowledged by most as being credited as the point of creation, many seem to not like the idea that people other than African -Americans were responsible for it, played a significant role, or it having borrowed much from non-African-American sources. I wonder how they would take it if asked where did rhyming originate and what would rap music be without it? Rhyming in music is a big part of English and Spanish speaking Caribbean music. I haven’t even seen or heard talk of rhyming being a part of tradition African culture. The only element of Hip-Hop that did not already exist in some previous form may be scratching, yet Hip-Hop advocates see and promote it as being so unique. They talk as if it was the first Black music to have influenced the world. Jazz did that first, r&b and reggae did the same. Bob Marley is as widely known and loved as is Tupac. It is ironic that recently it appears there is a growing number of us who say we were native to the U.S. They say we never came from Africa - we were always here and are the indigenous people of this land. Some even say the 'Atlantic Slave Trade' never happened. My first response to hearing this was to think - well give back the African influenced music you so love and boast about all the world loving. Show me the native/indigenous influence on Black music of the U.S. Our scholars and journalist need to do better at covering the troubling trends emerging among us that is increasing the already fractured nature among us African-Americans especially. We seem to have enough for all of us of the African Diaspora. We have ADOS and FBA as new designations as if the government will pay anyone they are not legally and/or morally obligated to pay reparations, if we ever are to get them. In all honesty - much of humanity is due reparations for the historic inhumanity we have inflicted on each other as groups. African-American intellectuals today are saying "Black on Black crime is not a thing", when in the 80's they were not speaking out against us singing songs like - ‘We’re Headed For Self-destruction' and Hip- Hop had its campaign against violence. I'm certain they were right along with most of us in our attitude and stance toward the high rate of violence among us. It has gotten worse - become normalized and more heinous. Children and women have long now been the victims of this senseless violence, yet our intellectuals like Michael Eric Dyson and some Black celebrities and activist now take this inexplicable stance. I have yet to hear any mention of this in the Black media. Social media hasn't even debated it. Why is this? This is us gas-lighting ourselves, when it is ignored. It is no different than the denial of reality of Trumpism. Again, where is "Black media" on this issue? Some Afro-Latinos are engaged in this same revisionist history. I don’t know if it originated from a Latino or not, just have seen a couple of them with KZbin channels spreading the idea of what they call the Copper-Colored-People. This is another claim being made of who Black people in the Americas really are. The Latino press and scholars have a job on their hands also.

[@JAGreen-lj9zi]

WTF😀😃😂🤣

[@gd2603]

You can tell the Afro Latino Isrealites is their black look.but I know a Sister when I see an hear one Love my Afro Latino Family Love You!!❤️

[@tbyas4406]

The sad part is that the Afro people in each area are the indigenous people and the Afro people mixed with the colonizers aka mixed people are now the so called people of the areas.

[@SelectiveSocial401]

Would be nice if someone would mention the fact that latinos Appropriate black culture.

[@rhondagoss8424]

Parents are from Florida and Louisiana and migated to California in the 1940s. I am proud of who I am😅

[@maryallen2317]

This racism towards Black Americans is a very serious problem and attitude from Puerto Ricans.

[@FASBLAQUE]

@user-rv4md3vw9b You can't call yourself Hebrew or Israelite of you don't speak the language or practice the culture. Y'all need to stop saying that, because you look foolish doing it. The only true Black Hebrews are living in southern Africa right now today. It is where they went when they were attacked by the Romans. The ones who escaped into north west Africa were captured up into the slave trade and were stripped of there language and culture. When the Moors ran out of Israelis to sell they started selling their own. This fact alone says that not all Black Americans came from Israel. In fact there were very few compared to the ones who escaped to the south and were not captured up into the slave trade. You have no proof that you are from that bloodline and until you do you need to stop saying it.🙄🤔

[@maxim30]

Remember just like in North America you have white peoples. In south or Latin America there are white peoples as well. They run the show in Latin America also. Just like black peoples in North America run from being black. Black peoples in Latin America do the same. Add in the Spanish racial caste system and you get a clearer understanding.

[@maryallen2317]

@@maxim30 you sound like a damn fool with that bs. You know damn well real Black Americans here in the US 🇺🇸 don't play no mess. And we're definitely not trying to be white. So stop that lie. I could care less about what ya'll do in Latin America. It can't be all that because you keep coming to America to live here.

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

No it's not. LOL All I hooked up with were black girls growing up! The brothers hated me!

[@sapeca2]

@@YankeeWoodcraft they hated it because of the same dynamic being discussed above. The Hispanic population’s own hate of their blackness spilled over into how they interacted with Black Americans. If you treat your own black family bad, then how are you going to treat other blacks? So black men having experienced anti black sentiments from the Hispanic community were reacting to that. And I’m not saying that it was correct or righteous for them to “hate” you for dating “their” black females.

[@The1ByTheSea]

I ask does it go both ways ? Do blacks discriminate against Latins .

[@RomanDomenech]

The majority if slaves ended up in Brazil, Cuba and Haiti

[@BertLonney]

you have no right to use the term "Latin/Latino". It's not what you are, it's not your cultural heritage. You can only use the term "Latin Americans" and this thanks to the Latin French colonizers who called that part of the Americas Amerique Latine ,"Latin" America. Latin/Latino is the language spoken by the Romans and their culture. You cannot take Latin American and make it Latin or Latino.It's time to stop this lie. Everything Latin, ber it the Latin People, the Latin Language and the Latin Culture all comes from Roman Italy and has nothing to do with you. You are Red-Skin Mestizo Indians.

[@user-dv3kq3rm4h]

Nobody cares Bert. Get over yourself.

[@Kemet3.0]

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[@profharp]

IMHO, the term AFRO-LATINO is redundant.

[@lisaflores8801]

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[@godzillamegatron3590]

I disagree with the professor. If Latin America had segregation, so how did Latin America population became half of mixed race people?

[@eunicehen4959]

It was forced. The government said oh slavery is over and we are going to get rid of slavery and racism by encouraging mixture. But only to lighten. “Mejorar la raza” mix but only with someone Who is lighter than you. It gives the false impression that it is colorblind. Another factor is also that Spanish and Portuguese slave masters and colonizers were way more open to sex with slaves and Africans( also natives when there were any left). And in some cases they even claimed the offspring which was not the case in the US. Don’t get me wrong the hatred and disdain was also there but in the US WHITE PEOPLE WERE MORE STRICT WITH MIXING AND rarely claimed the offspring and they would not inherit anything. In Brazil in the 18th century there different Churches and cemetery’s for blacks and whites. In cuba black people sat in a different area deprecated from whites in busses (and trains) still in 20th Century. It was cultural and customary law.

[@SE-gs6gd]

The same way black Americans became mixed race people and they were enslaved

[@Ichinen220]

@GodzillaMegatron there was segregation here and there are many mixed Black people. How did that happen?

[@godzillamegatron3590]

@@Ichinen220 mixed race population of Latin America is about 40% . USA mixed race population is about 5%. The different is USA had legalize segregation.

[@Ichinen220]

The Dr. said they had segregation under another name, classism...She stated the neighborhoods were separate...

[@arnoldenglish8882]

Black president Black vice president 2 Black supreme justices nough said

[@gregoriousChowanoac]

Slaves were moves around the America's very few came from Africa. You smart people please trace your genealogy (THE PAPER TRAIL) we were already here. Don't double down so the research Professor please!!

[@godzillamegatron3590]

Most Latinos are mixed . There is no racial caste system. At best their were names for the different mixed people in the early days of Latin America , before the war of independence in Latin America.

[@eunicehen4959]

There defiantly was one ! It has been ablistend OFFICIALLY but it is still in the mind, mentality, culture and customs of the countries. Let alone in Brazil they have so many names to call different shades of black and brown which originates in the cast system that is now abolished

[@eunicehen4959]

*abolished

[@godzillamegatron3590]

@@eunicehen4959 I doubt it. In Latin America anyone can marry anyone for like 100 years. Race mixing was promoted in Latin America. And discouraged in the USA .

[@eunicehen4959]

@@godzillamegatron3590 dude that’s what I said !!! I said that the government encouraged it but by lightening !! And that in the US it was not. I literally said that! Just in other words???!!! 🤨 in the us English descendant white people were more hesitant to mix but it does not mean that there was no segregation. I know that for a fact.

[@stonedecatur6602]

Sure, everybody in every country in Latin America is treated equal.

[@pabloalvez915]

Those governments should of create conditions for the African populations living in those countries for them to return to Africa, which is a continent that offers plenty of economic opportunities. Besides, Europeans don't actually need the Blacks anymore since the end of slavery, their presence is but a nuisance in Latin America nowadays , besides they don't wish to be part of those nation's cultural and political lives. I believe this would be the best solution to this problem.

[@charttrenelogan635]

You first😂

[@respiratoryed]

Hey Pablo this film is about you!😅

[@williammartinez840]

The best solution is for you and those who think like you to stop practicing your racism. We do not have to return anywhere, you return to where you were imported from. We rightfully belong in these countries because we did not ask to come there and our heritage was stolen when we got there, these ARE our countries of origin for all intent and purpose, perhaps you should consider returning to your country of origin.

[@mr.jabbar6443]

Keeping it real Latinos racist, I got Latin friends and they keep it real and tell me truth

[@nosceteipsum-mw7nj]

Tania hernandez said hispanish america has a state regulation which traslating into the usa way of racism means JIM CROW ….IMGUES MRS HERNANDEZ COULD EXPLAIN MORE HOW HISPANISH GOB IN THE CONTINENT APPLY THAT NONSENSE OF STATE REGULATION…….

[@blessedglasgow7548]

If ur bro is bullied; shld u also oppose em?🌸🍯🐝🦾🇺🇸 I hv repaird many oppressd peo by simply NOT disregardn dere presence, attitude nor opinions… 🧠🫀🎀