Owen Jones meets Ed Miliband | 'The Tories don't know what kind of Brexit they want'

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@GavinHitchens
@GavinHitchens 7 жыл бұрын
It's a genuine shame Ed didn't become PM. He's one of only a few politicians that I can be in disagreement with but still believe wants the best for the UK
@benjamineckford1718
@benjamineckford1718 7 жыл бұрын
Ed Miliband looks relaxed, human, thoughtful here. Why couldn't he have been like this as leader?
@Thamyris13
@Thamyris13 7 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Eckford seems like a good bloke but he spent years buckling under the pressure. I'm sure he a much happier person now.
@fuzzylogiceire
@fuzzylogiceire 7 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Eckford He came across well in the interviews before the election too.
@benjamineckford1718
@benjamineckford1718 7 жыл бұрын
Thamyris Vision yeah probably
@Colin90s
@Colin90s 7 жыл бұрын
I was watching thinking the exact same thing. Anytime I saw him on TV he tended to come across as out of touch, dishonest, and devoid of likable human traits. Almost like I was watching a completely different guy here.
@SodaIceberg
@SodaIceberg 7 жыл бұрын
Stress
@GraveArchitect94
@GraveArchitect94 7 жыл бұрын
Ed's a good kid
@jimmymyers8753
@jimmymyers8753 7 жыл бұрын
William Guppy First Visit , Israel !!
@JAMAICADOCK
@JAMAICADOCK 7 жыл бұрын
Good guys don't win in politics I'm afraid
@ScoobGruber
@ScoobGruber 7 жыл бұрын
Such a good kid... I wonder if he twisted the knife in his brothers back?
@24yrukdesigner
@24yrukdesigner 7 жыл бұрын
He is a sick, sick man... Openly admitting he'd do everything possible to have prevented UK from having a voice, denied the people the rights to a referendum, simultaneously calling those who disagree with HIS choice fascists........ lol Couldn't make that up... ^^
@anonomousous
@anonomousous 7 жыл бұрын
The Ed Miller Band are my favorite folk group.
@robertsnelling
@robertsnelling Жыл бұрын
Ed Milibrand is an eloquent, personable man and an intelligent debater. He has much to offer and contribute to the UK's moribund political life. It was a lively discussion and obviously a stimulating chat for both of you. Lots of food for thought. Keep up the great work both of you!
@GarethWareth
@GarethWareth 7 жыл бұрын
Still like Ed Miliband. Was never a leader but a good person. Not the best, but a good man. Nothing to dislike. Not extreme enough for me. But he still speaks sense.
@richardtaylor4362
@richardtaylor4362 7 жыл бұрын
Gareth Wareth That sandwich eating was classic extremism!!!
@GarethWareth
@GarethWareth 7 жыл бұрын
Richard Taylor yeah true hahaha ffs our media
@MrHFarm
@MrHFarm 7 жыл бұрын
I still think it's sad that we missed probably the best chance to get an intelligent and fundamentally decent human being as a prime minister. Clearly that wasn't really what people wanted from a leader and it's unlikely that another will be offered anytime soon but sad all the same. Regarding the sandwich I have it on good authority that it wasn't a one off and that he is just a generally weird eater.
@spiritlevel6901
@spiritlevel6901 7 жыл бұрын
+Harry Farmer, I like ed, even voted for labour in the last election, but an austerity light way of approaching our broken economy was never going to be a vote winner. Glad to see he backs Corbyn though.
@MrHFarm
@MrHFarm 7 жыл бұрын
I think he wanted to do more but was held back by the right. Can't back Corbyn though, some good ideas on the economy but appalling leadership that is dragging the party down. I thin Ed and most other MPs have now decided that it's better to let him take responsibility for disaster that looks certain to occur at the next election and rebuild from there.
@BenWillock
@BenWillock 7 жыл бұрын
"He deserves the chance to succeed, he's won the leadership election not once but twice, that's why I'm supporting him" If only the rest of the PLP felt the same way, Ed.
@goawayimsleeping509
@goawayimsleeping509 3 жыл бұрын
Ed should run for leadership again, who's with me
@rowdog28
@rowdog28 7 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking how much Ed reminds me of Ginger from Chicken Run...
@venerablesimpatico2817
@venerablesimpatico2817 7 жыл бұрын
That's what lost him the election. Well that and the sandwich thing.
@fbspin
@fbspin 7 жыл бұрын
oh my god that's exactly it!
@mr__daly
@mr__daly 7 жыл бұрын
I had to Google Ginger from Chicken Run.... hahahaha Now that i know who Ginger is, it's hilarious. Thanks.
@primuspilus44
@primuspilus44 7 жыл бұрын
rowdog28 thank you so much for saying that, I've thought he looked familiar for the last 4 years but have never been able to put my finger on it
@rowdog28
@rowdog28 7 жыл бұрын
Alessandro Simone happy to have enlightened you 😊
@fryliver4953
@fryliver4953 7 жыл бұрын
God damn. We fucked up falling for the Murdoch character assassination. Ed was a good man.
@Jaxymann
@Jaxymann 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, Mililband hit the nail on the head with Brexit.
@danielbentham758
@danielbentham758 3 жыл бұрын
That sort of thinking is exactly why the labour party got destroyed in 2019
@OwenJonesTalks
@OwenJonesTalks 7 жыл бұрын
The subtitles are available now.
@twistaumhc91
@twistaumhc91 7 жыл бұрын
Do Blair. That would be great.
@IanCullen
@IanCullen 7 жыл бұрын
Nice one with the subtitles. As far as Miliband. Kind of miss the guy. As far as the Left. I'm starting to wonder if Corbyn is a place holder in order to pull Labour more to the left in much the same was as Kinnock kind of pulled it more to the centre back in the 80s in order to create a space for Blair. Either way given how extreme the Right has been with its messages on building walls and such. It makes me wonder if the Left needs to pull much further left than it is right now. Because it seems a majority of voters that went for Brexit and Trump went the option that they thought was going to create the most change and sort of thumbed what they view as the establishment in the eye. I personally think that immigration needs to really be looked at in terms of a cap on how many people we allow in. Certainly until we have a better grip on our borders and the economy. I also think NHS needs to be looked at. But more importantly social care. I mean if we looked at social care a little better. Perhaps we'd get a better grip on things such as Mental Illness. I voted for remain. But a few mates of mine voted to leave. One of which voted because he felt the EU had to much control over our laws. So with him it wasn't about immigration. He also runs a small business as well. Which probably gives you an idea of what some of his issues would be. I've also heard some stuff that Momentum who backed Corbyn's campaign have been maybe looking at forming their own political party so that there is another option on the left. So as a regular viewer of your channel. But not much of a commenter as such. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on a new left leaning political party. My thought is. The current Labour Party is missing lots and lots of open goals that the Tories are leaving in their wake. And on top of that we have a Lib Dem party that is no where near as strong as it once was as a third option. To quote the old proverb. We are truly now living in interesting times.
@Xanias00
@Xanias00 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Owen, how do you feel about the Investigatory Powers Bill?
@paulyoung4649
@paulyoung4649 7 жыл бұрын
Olly Longworth anjem choudary would be a good one.
@wilneliaadams5963
@wilneliaadams5963 7 жыл бұрын
Owen, can I just say that I love how you're so obviously sampling a Bob Marley track with your background music? :D
@sithius99
@sithius99 7 жыл бұрын
17,410,742 voted to leave Ed, but 16,141,241 voted to remain. Hardly a landslide, is it?
@Thamyris13
@Thamyris13 7 жыл бұрын
sithius99 it is when you acknowledge that that's a majority of 1,300,000.
@AFreeThinker999
@AFreeThinker999 7 жыл бұрын
but not when you realise its a majority of 4%.
@Thamyris13
@Thamyris13 7 жыл бұрын
Ben Meh either way its a clear victory. But you are right.
@Liofa73
@Liofa73 7 жыл бұрын
Ben ... And only half the country voted... Alright, kids weren't allowed and a lot of old people in care homes probably didn't bother... But had another 5-8 million got out to vote the result might have swung the other way...
@Liofa73
@Liofa73 7 жыл бұрын
If you'd have read my comment throughly, you would have seen that I wrote "might". Not such a ridiculous argument after all.
@InstallaFriend
@InstallaFriend 7 жыл бұрын
'How do you think the government is dealing with Brexit' 'I believe the government have behaved in a reckless and provocative manner, at a time when negotiations are still going on...'
@grahamsouthern5583
@grahamsouthern5583 5 жыл бұрын
@whyemceeay LOL. Nothing better than that in all his political career? Says it all, doesn't it?
@sewaolukoga8376
@sewaolukoga8376 7 жыл бұрын
I don't care- I love Ed Milliband. He was a average leader but you cannot deny his passion for the British people. I have never considered him as an elitist; he genuinely recognises the problem the British people have with the Establishment
@selfinflictedyukon
@selfinflictedyukon 7 жыл бұрын
Great interview! Love how relaxed and free ranging these chats are. Strong message at the end.... It is true that out of our darkest times have come our greatest successes, achievements, leaps forward as a society. We just have to make it thru these darkest of times.
@T800System
@T800System 7 жыл бұрын
Ed Miliband is a good bloke. His analysis of what was/is going wrong is broadly correct; he would have taken us more or less in the right direction (perhaps not as forcibly as I would have liked) - but crucially the british public saw him as weak, he didn't effectively refute the lie that Labour overspending caused the financial crisis, he was seen as too close to the blair/brown governments that produced him and Labour didn't offer a referendum on the EU. This is why he failed.
@Swolotheoneandonlyswolo
@Swolotheoneandonlyswolo 7 жыл бұрын
Miliband was so animated the camera couldn't keep him in focus.
@matthewcswhite
@matthewcswhite 7 жыл бұрын
Swolo *adam ;)
@AdamSich
@AdamSich 7 жыл бұрын
He did move around a fair old bit. Did my best to keep up.
@matthewcswhite
@matthewcswhite 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Sich Hey Adam do you work for Owen or The Guardian? And are you a one man band? Do you edit them as well as film? I'd love to do the sort of work you do! Keep up it up!
@AdamSich
@AdamSich 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Matthew, I work for the Guardian running all of their KZbin channels but primarily work with Owen. Yeah, I edit and film them. With the interviews I usually have someone with me on second camera, occasionally I have to do them both. It's a lot of fun! Especially when we get to go out and film the longer videos.
@everything_is_fine90
@everything_is_fine90 7 жыл бұрын
Ed comes off really relaxed, confident, knowledgeable and certain in his opinions. Shame he wasn't in the same mind set, as leader. Brilliant interview, you should take due credit Owen, you set the tone and pace so Ed could do his thing.
@JoelCornah
@JoelCornah 7 жыл бұрын
Like living in the Miliverse for 16 minutes, thanks Owen.
@Swolotheoneandonlyswolo
@Swolotheoneandonlyswolo 7 жыл бұрын
Really interesting interview - Thanks so much Owen!
@dylan-5173
@dylan-5173 7 жыл бұрын
In hindsight, I think Ed would've been a smashing PM!
@jackmurphy8053
@jackmurphy8053 7 жыл бұрын
Possibly the greatest PM we never had.
@JoelCornah
@JoelCornah 7 жыл бұрын
Would take Ed's weird, awkward hijinks over what we have now. :(
@yorkshireplumbing
@yorkshireplumbing 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, haha... Jesus... what a thought. How pathetic.
@Hadrianus01
@Hadrianus01 7 жыл бұрын
Are you joking? I can't tell if you're being serious or not lol
@jackmurphy8053
@jackmurphy8053 7 жыл бұрын
aortablue yeah I'm serious. I think he would've been great. Public investment, crackdown on tax avoidance, elected senate to replace lords and a reduction in tuition fees. As far as I'm concerned he's a real conviction politician and I admire him immensely .
@geniusofmozart
@geniusofmozart 7 жыл бұрын
Jack Murphy Very much agreed. Outlets like the Financial Times and the Economist should be ashamed that they backed the coalition instead of Miliband's Labour, which is essentially backing the Conservatives - when they knew the risk of an EU referendum (which both are now angry about) and when particularly the Financial Times knew that austerity had no basis in economics.
@andrewwatson4244
@andrewwatson4244 7 жыл бұрын
Politician was right and wasn't voted into power, great job voters!
@jamesharris4687
@jamesharris4687 7 жыл бұрын
Ed is so relaxed and articulate here- seems totally different and more real than when he was labour head.
@yabyum108
@yabyum108 7 жыл бұрын
now he's out of the spin-vortex of leadership, EM's intelligence shines through
@grahamsouthern5583
@grahamsouthern5583 5 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
@zayn2476
@zayn2476 7 жыл бұрын
I really do love his enthusiasm and optimism, to be knocked down so badly and know you were right all along and still get up and be heard takes huge courage. His insights are great, just wish he was more like this prior to 2015. I can't help but imagine what the state of the UK would be had he won, his 2015 campaign did bring hope, something you won't be feeling from any party any time soon.
@animovie1
@animovie1 6 жыл бұрын
Should have voted for this guy back in 2015 and none of this would have happened
@aperson22222
@aperson22222 7 жыл бұрын
"The Tories don't know what kind of Brexit they want"? My, what a profoundly insightful observation.
@Firespectrum122
@Firespectrum122 7 жыл бұрын
As a member of the Conservative party, Ed Milliband and Jeremy Corbyn have my sincere gratitude. We couldn't have got back into power without them.
@helterskelter792
@helterskelter792 7 жыл бұрын
God bless Edward Miliband, first of his name.
@jawadc97
@jawadc97 7 жыл бұрын
God only knows how much I would give for Milliband to be our PM at the last General Election.
@FreorgeWeasley
@FreorgeWeasley 7 жыл бұрын
God damn, he should have campaigned more like this
@bellrobert1978
@bellrobert1978 7 жыл бұрын
He's right or should i say correct i don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. You only have to look around the world to see there is no appetite for centrist politics. Corbyn might not be the correct choice but the direction of his politics definitely is.
@TonyFisherPuzzles
@TonyFisherPuzzles 7 жыл бұрын
We know exactly what Brexit we want and always have. So too have the Brexit voters. It's only the remoaners who made out they didn't know to cause disruption and obviously Theresa didn't want to show her hand. Now she is repeatedly forced to which damages our position each time.
@zeddeka
@zeddeka 3 жыл бұрын
In referendums, millions of people vote for millions of different reasons. There is no 'we' wanting one uniform thing, and it's very disingenuous to suggest so. As we've seen in the years since, what was promised during the Brexit referendum has proved to be completely wide of the mark.
@jackfisher4183
@jackfisher4183 7 жыл бұрын
Miliband is an interesting guy...
@GCarruthers
@GCarruthers 7 жыл бұрын
I love how people need subtitles for this. Is it the accent, or the speed at which they talk? As an English speaking South African I understand it just fine!
@rp1455
@rp1455 7 жыл бұрын
I never hugely liked Ed but God Almighty would he have been better than the complete car crash of a Tory government we have now. He has also shown a lot of foresight and good analysis in this video. He has partly won me back.
@JAMAICADOCK
@JAMAICADOCK 7 жыл бұрын
This is what makes me laugh about the center/ right of the Labour Party - on issues like immigration, welfare, trident - we are told ad-infinitum that such policies are unpopular with traditional working class voters. The inference being working class voters will go to UKIP if Corbyn goes too Left. But meanwhile the unpopularity of the EU amongst working-class voters doesn't seem to matter. Losing votes to UKIP isn't so important when it comes to the EU. And I get the feeling it will be this issue that loses it for Corbyn - far more than his Left-wing policies. UKIP will sell themselves as the only Party truly committed to Brexit, appealing to angry voters who feel cheated by the foot-dragging over Article 50. The irony being, Corbyn is more passionate now about the EU - than he ever was during the Remain Campaign. Which I think is all down to Party unity and has nothing to do with Corbyn's true position on Brexit
@j-wizzy
@j-wizzy 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you predicted the future
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 7 жыл бұрын
Well, plaudits to Miliband for supporting Corbyn, an honourable stance. That still doesn't banish the (deep) despondency however, because Corbyn is Old Labour with Central Bank rather than Rich People funding. Sorry, no effective difference.
@ImmaterialDigression
@ImmaterialDigression 7 жыл бұрын
THe point is Labour can make the argument for a second referendum on the actual deal (this makes an incredible amount of sense) and also to still fight the argument the country is better off in the UK. There is nothing wrong with saying this country is better off in the EU because lets face it, it fucking well is better off in the EU.
@richardtaylor4362
@richardtaylor4362 7 жыл бұрын
ImmaterialDigression because leave hurt your feelings?
@ImmaterialDigression
@ImmaterialDigression 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure 48% of people voted to remain in the EU because otherwise their feelings would be hurt. Nice one Richard. In fact that was the whole remain campaign. It's a fairly stupid question it's like saying oh are you going to fight against privatisation of the NHS because it hurts your feelings? Consider me scuppered by your intelligently put argument.
@richardtaylor4362
@richardtaylor4362 7 жыл бұрын
ImmaterialDigression I baited you a little with five words and now you are all triggered, you claim to be intelligent but is because it is a good enough reason? "There is nothing wrong with saying this country is better off in the EU because lets face it, it fucking well is better off in the EU" Also you contradictorily said the uk is better off in the uk , yes that is one thing I agree with you on. "also to still fight the argument the country is better off in the UK"
@ImmaterialDigression
@ImmaterialDigression 7 жыл бұрын
Yes darling I'm triggered. Woe is me. Don't know where I claimed I was intelligent Richard. That's a funny one.
@Jide-mx3wm
@Jide-mx3wm 7 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the crazy Brexiters.
@sv-bd5em
@sv-bd5em 7 жыл бұрын
seems like a nice enough guy if it wasn't for the public shaming of jc. however i can't help myself from sort of blaming him and clegg for not being convincing enough to at least prevent tories from getting a majority in 2015.
@donaldderp1602
@donaldderp1602 7 жыл бұрын
That was the whole point, the 1% pull the strings to maintain power, controlled opposition. Clegg and Miliband are multi-millionaires of the establishment, they just do as they're told for money. No way on earth are they on the side of the people.
@Jide-mx3wm
@Jide-mx3wm 7 жыл бұрын
+Cory Tant I don't know man I don't think he would have been as heartless as Cameron and Osborne and on the whole the game changers and leaders of thought of human history have always been from privileged backgrounds. They are the only ones that have the flexibility money gives to allow you time to think. Even Lenin was well to do . Didn't stop him from committing class suicide and igniting a revolution.
@jds3816
@jds3816 7 жыл бұрын
It was because of scaremongering... not his policies, the conservatives are incredibly good at scaring people to vote for them. The fear of having a coalition government with the SNP coupled with the fear they created of Labour being in charge of the economy. Now we have a conservative government privatising everything, it is worse than the Thatcher era.....
@09jamieboro
@09jamieboro 7 жыл бұрын
I miss ed :( Used to love it when the speaker bellowed 'Edddd milliiiibandddd !!!!'
@Iazzaboyce
@Iazzaboyce 7 жыл бұрын
I analyse it this way: the people of the UK voted to leave the EU, because they did not want to be in the EU. Does this mean the previous eight prime ministers have taken the UK to a destination its people never wanted to go to? ... Yes, it means precisely that.
@joestraw8870
@joestraw8870 4 жыл бұрын
The final comments on FDR and New Deal; was Johnson, Cummings or Gove watching this interview before their speeches 27/6/20 and 29/6/20?
@retcon1991
@retcon1991 7 жыл бұрын
If this channel is about debate, some more interviews with the Right would be nice.
@MGustave
@MGustave 7 жыл бұрын
bassben04 It would be, but one presumes Mr Jones feels the left needs to set its own house in order first.
@GiullarediDio
@GiullarediDio 7 жыл бұрын
You mean like Hannan, Carswell, Oborne, Peter Hitchens?
@AdamSich
@AdamSich 7 жыл бұрын
We are trying to get a few more with Tories/right-leaning people. might have to wait until early next year but there will be more.
@loladoesntlikecola
@loladoesntlikecola 7 жыл бұрын
Anna Soubry would be an interesting interview.
@tris421
@tris421 7 жыл бұрын
please interview Milo Y.
@weswheel4834
@weswheel4834 7 жыл бұрын
"Take Back Control", "We Want Our Country Back" and "Make America Great Again" could have been centre-left slogans. They're fairly meaningless. The right are just better at selling the slogans. Good interview, thanks. Thanks to Ed as well.
@LucasBakerJay
@LucasBakerJay 7 жыл бұрын
Part of me feels like Ed Miliband could actually do quite well as Labour leader right now
@BENTWOONEZERO
@BENTWOONEZERO 7 жыл бұрын
Corbyn as set the bar fairly low.
@nickjones9867
@nickjones9867 7 жыл бұрын
BEN TWOONEZERO lol
@katy3901
@katy3901 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's highly likely he'll be shadow chancellor if Starmer wins.
@_mothpope_
@_mothpope_ 7 жыл бұрын
Lot of respect for Ed after this- if only he'd had this composure and sense in 2015
@curtismorgan5055
@curtismorgan5055 7 жыл бұрын
Labour needs to be bigger and bolder in order to have a chance of winning. If Labour, under Jeremy, go into the election as simply 'doing a better job than a Tory government'; they will be destroyed. Labour need to offer big hitting policies such as scrapping of University fees, Universal Basic Income etc.
@abdallagurashi9566
@abdallagurashi9566 7 жыл бұрын
Really good, like these serious informal interviews 👍
@barnabus06
@barnabus06 7 жыл бұрын
Good interview, hearing Miliband is curiously heartening. It is a little strange to read some of the unpleasant and personal comments here, which look as though the commentators have accidentally strayed in from the corporate press. Interesting too the reference to Theresa May's opening speech. Miliband is too optimistic on this: don't forget Thatcher, a partisan and divisive a leader if ever there was one, quoting the prayer of St Francis
@joehodson5986
@joehodson5986 7 жыл бұрын
As to how to beat the right at their messaging, we should probably try to use more English vocabulary as opposed to Latin based words- not out of nationalistic purism, but because those words resonate better and are more psychologically powerful. Concepts like "intersectionality", "utilitarianism", and "secularism" should be anglicised until they are as vivid as as "health", "country", and "freedom".
@calusidius118
@calusidius118 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Hodson Non-Latin English words like vocabulary (vocabulum), resonate (resonare), anglicise (Anglicus), concept (conceptum), and vivid (vividus) then?
@joehodson5986
@joehodson5986 7 жыл бұрын
+Matt M exactly
@joehodson5986
@joehodson5986 7 жыл бұрын
+andy mane One must appeal to both rational and irrational voters. It would be dishonest and wrong to ignore the former, and suicidal to ignore the latter.
@joehodson5986
@joehodson5986 7 жыл бұрын
andy mane What I mean is that our problems are complicated and thus they typically require complicated solutions. But the complicated solutions need to be explained in simple enough terms to compete electorally with simpler but less beneficial solutions. Of course it's just my opinion that the left is more beneficial, I'm just discussing strategy starting from that assumption.
@jamesjohnson2394
@jamesjohnson2394 7 жыл бұрын
NHS? Walfare? Minimum wage? equality? you would miss that very quickly. I think you forget how much better are lives are due to the Labour party.
@295Rob
@295Rob 7 жыл бұрын
We will never win by pointing how terrible the alternative is. The Left needs strong simple policies that show we understand peoples frustration at the establishment and that will solve biggest the problems we face : housing, jobs, immigration and the NHS
@oddyseus99
@oddyseus99 7 жыл бұрын
A decent man of principle but in the job at the wrong time. He seems to have garnered more respect since leaving office that he could ever have dreamt of in office. Excellent interview Owen.
@Pistachios42
@Pistachios42 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if he was even trying to, but I feel much more optimistic about the future after watching this. Thank you Ed and Owen!
@MihaiViteazul100
@MihaiViteazul100 7 жыл бұрын
"We're in the biggest crisis since 1945." Uh...What about the 70's? Shortages, rationing, strike after strike, nothing getting done?
@ryano5019
@ryano5019 7 жыл бұрын
I like politicians who aren't running for office, they always talk a lot more frankly and honestly
@Chidds
@Chidds 7 жыл бұрын
I think it is really sad that people are still looking at Brexit as something awful, as opposed to a great opportunity. The previous way of doing things clearly wasn't working for a vast number of people (at least this is finally being recognised now). I'm just waiting for those who consider Brexit as awful to recognise that their lost utopia wasn't a utopia for a lot of people.
@MrHFarm
@MrHFarm 7 жыл бұрын
Can you enlighten us to the nature of this opportunity in a way that actually present realistic outcomes and not pie in the sky dream of a return to the day of empire when we ruled the wave and enforced our trade agreements with the cannon of our gunboats?
@Chidds
@Chidds 7 жыл бұрын
Harry Farmer For one, it enables Britain to forge a future free from the bureaucracy of the EU. For example, we will be able to agree trade deals in a matter of years, even months, as opposed deals a decade or longer to be agreed upon. Britain will be able to decide what parts of EU law are necessary for her, and what is unnecessary; doing more harm than good.
@Chidds
@Chidds 7 жыл бұрын
Ted Thomas What Britain has supported in the past in irrelevant. I was referring to the future, not the past. The fact that you seem incapable of distinguishing the difference says a lot about your approach.
@TedThomasTT
@TedThomasTT 7 жыл бұрын
First of all you say previous way of doing things wasn't working. Now you're saying the past is irrelevant. Brexit logic is always fun.
@Chidds
@Chidds 7 жыл бұрын
Ted Thomas Exactly. It is irrelevant, because it wasn't working. The future needs to have a new approach. The old ways require changing. Reasonable people recognise this. It appears you are struggling with being reasonable. Shame.
@RonBurgundy-uw6nu
@RonBurgundy-uw6nu 5 жыл бұрын
Look at these specimens...... Not a bollock between them
@fustilarian1
@fustilarian1 7 жыл бұрын
It's annoying that politicians are acting as if they have a mandate for carrying out brexit, and especially one which pursue's UKIP's ideas of it, when a lot of people who voted for it did it for many other reasons and immigration might not even have been one of them for a huge proportion. It's like the 48% don't matter at all, they only care about not being spun the wrong way in the media. It's completely lost on them that it's sometimes the job of politicians to make unpopular decisions if it's the correct decision, there is such a thing as a right or wrong answer, and it plainly makes no sense to just carry on if a tiny majority of the public thinks that 1+1=5. I also think a huge causal agent of brexit that not many people have talked about/are talking about is Juncker's inability to compromise with Cameron/the UK, and a lot of his provocative comments during the campaign.
@DG_Avis
@DG_Avis 7 жыл бұрын
Miliband never spoke like this in the lead up to the 2015 election. It's as though he tried to pick his words so carefully out of fear of the media's scrutiny, he just came across as awkward and clumsy. Here he seems much more confident and articulate.
@ivysaur2305
@ivysaur2305 7 жыл бұрын
I know you are probably already working on it, but please do a report on Aleppo.
@12sin8
@12sin8 7 жыл бұрын
Why does the editor choose to include shots of Owen rubbing the sleep out of his eye when Ed's talking?
@Kradiancy
@Kradiancy 7 жыл бұрын
That and Owen looks grumpy af for half of the interview
@Jez2008UK
@Jez2008UK 7 жыл бұрын
Because this video is really all about Owen, you see, he loves the sound of his own voice.
@blackemerald
@blackemerald 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, can we get the full interview like you did with a previous guest? (I forget who it was...)
@michellekirrane4566
@michellekirrane4566 7 жыл бұрын
Naïve of me clearly but is anyone else a little surprised that he was consulted for Mrs May's speech? :-s
@666j1
@666j1 7 жыл бұрын
this is wrong at a time when negotiations are still going on. My household has acted in a reckless and provocative manner. I urge all family members to get around the dinner table, put aside the rhetoric, and stop this confusion happening again
@robbrownhill312
@robbrownhill312 5 жыл бұрын
the reason cameron offered a referendum at the general election was because he thought it was going to end with another hung parliament and the tories in coalition with the lib dems , cameron said the blame for not giving people a referendum would of been down to the lib dems not wanting one .....quite simply blame the lib dems for no referendum.....
@sasukesarutobi3862
@sasukesarutobi3862 7 жыл бұрын
An important thing to understand about austerity and immigration: over-demand and under-supply both look the same from the waiting room seat. This is why it is so easy to see the strain on public services as being driven by immigration.
@secretmission7607
@secretmission7607 5 жыл бұрын
Real shame the way Ed M was perceived as he's one of the good guys...
@joeford4597
@joeford4597 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Owen, Ed (and others in the Lab party) seem to be skirting around the question of immigration by only citing economic factors; surely the cultural and identity narratives around immigration and race need to be recognized and then properly contested if we are to avoid rise of extreme Right which thrives on the fact that these narratives go unchallenged. Surely what we learned from Brexit and from Trump is that many people don't care for the economic factors?
@pavanbhatia389
@pavanbhatia389 7 жыл бұрын
Finally he's supporting Jeremy Corbyn. About time.
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 7 жыл бұрын
"Freedoms are at risk, fight for them"
@hugopetrus34
@hugopetrus34 6 жыл бұрын
Much more thoughtful than I had expected and I must say it is interesting to see the spread of interviewees that Owen is contacting.
@billyjackson578
@billyjackson578 7 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Owen didn't edit out Ed's reminder that half of the UK and half of the US aren't racist.
@viviennesoan1
@viviennesoan1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you it is such a relief to hear intelligent people talking and not playing media , political games . All power to you and your quest Owen
@thebopper6335
@thebopper6335 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Owen!!
@Aaronage1
@Aaronage1 7 жыл бұрын
Ed comes across very honest and down to earth here. It's at odds with my perception of him during the general election campaign.
@chairwood44
@chairwood44 7 жыл бұрын
can someone please link me something racist that Trump has said
@295Rob
@295Rob 7 жыл бұрын
you know what google is right?
@chairwood44
@chairwood44 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Stark Thats the problem with people, they hear stuff in the media and just follow the narrative without doing their own research, thats why no one can directly link me something racists he has said
@295Rob
@295Rob 7 жыл бұрын
chairwood44 then follow your own advice and go do some first hand research
@M941CheeseMan
@M941CheeseMan 7 жыл бұрын
OP got absolutely destroyed here XD!!!
@chairwood44
@chairwood44 7 жыл бұрын
Rae Elite maybe the fist one might be racist or is that being stereotypical?
@ConsumerWatchdogUK
@ConsumerWatchdogUK 7 жыл бұрын
Talked a lot of sense, agree with most of what he said.
@chairwood44
@chairwood44 7 жыл бұрын
The amount of people that do not understand the banking system is scary. The worlds monetary policy is to blame for everything and we need a referendum on our monetary policy.
@lewisner
@lewisner 7 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Labour MPs are mainly "bag carriers" who have little experience of real work except for maybe being a lawyer. Typically they go from private school>Oxford>politics. Up till the early 80's there was at least a chance that your Labour MP would have had some experience of real life.
@thisaccountisdead9060
@thisaccountisdead9060 7 жыл бұрын
“Depression” from “Press”; “Depression” also referred to as “Inertia”; “Inertia” being the “Rest Mass” of a body in Einstein’s theory of relativity, which increases if moving nearer to the speed of light or under the influence of the gravity of a massive object - the effect of which is to contract the fabric of space and slow the rate of time for that body; the opposite of “Inert” is “Nert” - meaning “Power” or “Strength”; “Labour” is an act of “Nert” from a state that was formally “Inert”… or more correctly “Pregnant” or “Expecting” - as in “There was a pregnant pause from her lips before she spoke”; “Labour” during which a female pushes a baby (with great effort causing a lot a pain - typically making her very vocal) from her Womb, through her Vagina, and out through her Vulva (or Labia) - giving Birth; also “Pregnant” in Spanish is “Embarazada” which is the route of the word “Embarrassed”; “Inertia” is also the state of a body at rest or in uniform motion; An object with mass undergoing uniform motion has “Momentum”; “Momentum” - shortened from “Move-Mentum”; “Mentum” is Latin for the fused mandible bones of the human chin; “Mentum” is also the name for fused “Labium” of insect mouths; “Labia” meaning “Lips” and the inner and outer folds of the Vulva either side of the Vagina ( “Vagina” from the Latin word for “Scabbard” or “Sheath” for a sword - sword being used to cut open or cleave… cleavage, like the cleavage in the middle of the human buttocks or between a woman’s breasts); “Dutch” - slang for a joint of Marajuana (a green intoxicating substance derived from cannabis) which can be purchased legally from the Dutch city of Amsterdam, from which someone can get high, which can releave someone from a depressive state of mind, but can cause someone to be “stoned” or “monged” if they consume to much; “stoned” - hit by a stone as punishment…. “Stoned to Death”; ‘Dutch’ - about to crush (or “depress”) the Predator’s head with a stone - has a pregnant pause… “What the hell are you?” says Dutch from his lips to the ‘Predator’ as he sees what looks to be a mortality wounded foe coughing up green blood after Dutch rendered him immobile (or ‘”Inert”) under the weight of a large heavy tree trunk, in the 1987 film “Predator”, before the ‘Predator’ (also known as ‘Yautja’ or ‘Hish-Qu-Ten’) repeats Dutch’s words - “What the hell are you?” and then sets off a self-destruction device - laughing manically (“Manic” being the opposite state to “Depression”) - causing Dutch to flee for his life once he realises a bomb is about to go off… which it does - leaving a mushroom cloud after a giant ball of energy rises from the ‘Predator’ and explodes to release blinding light (due to matter being converted into pure energy - as stated in Einstein’s mass-energy equivelance equation E = mc^2) ….Before the conflict that ended in the ‘Predators’ death, he examined Dutch by lifting him up off the ground with his hand gripped around his jaw (or “Mentum”), which is clearly different to the ‘Predators’ split “Mandibles” (or “Labium”). Afterwards - rescued from the scene of destruction - Dutch sits in the helicopter inert with exhaustion… Covered in ash, with a blank expression as though actually “stoned” or “Monged” - so Dutch, there unable to process what had happened… from which he will later no doubt have “Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome” leading to feelings of depression and anxiety; “Anxiety” produced from contextualization of memories from the Hippocampus due to fear responses generated by the Amygdala, which get connected in the Bed Nucleus of the Stria Terminalis (BNST). The Predator sees in infra-red... ...visible light can be red-shift into infra red light by gravity. The Predator wears a fishnet... ...maybe the Predator also lays frog spawn? The Jungle is society... "When I was little, we found a man. He looked like - like, butchered. The old woman in the village crossed themselves... and whispered crazy things, strange things. "El Diablo cazador de hombres." Only in the hottest years this happens. And this year, it grows hot. We begin finding our men. We found them sometimes without their skins... and sometimes much, much worse. "El cazador trofeo de los hombres" means the demon who makes trophies of men."
@thekidd7
@thekidd7 7 жыл бұрын
All the comments say he's such a good lad... I seem to remember him opportunistically entering the leadership race after saying he wouldn't, in a calculated way to undercut his BIG BROTHER. That's why I wouldn't vote for him. Right now he could be the Chancellor to David's Prime Minister and maybe PM in the fullness of time. He's as opportunistic as every other politician.
@foolilu
@foolilu 7 жыл бұрын
I think he'd have been good. I like that he is willing to own his mistakes. After initially supporting Owen Smith in the leadership contest, his apparent support for Jeremy, I find heartening.
@fuzzie42
@fuzzie42 7 жыл бұрын
Give us the whole interview not the cut version !!!!!
@doctor_gibbo1392
@doctor_gibbo1392 6 жыл бұрын
I'd completely forgotten this guy exists
@Volcanic47
@Volcanic47 7 жыл бұрын
The only way Ed MIlliband can give us hope and cheer is if he stars in the live version of Wallace and Grommet.
@jethrodykes4853
@jethrodykes4853 3 жыл бұрын
all intellectuals eat their food in an untidy manner - this is a sign of great strength of character - ed miliband is very great
@sgordon8123
@sgordon8123 7 жыл бұрын
Immigration - great for some things. Great to have new young workers - boosts economy. Terrible for other things - pressure on public services (schools, hospitals) and housing and hence QUALITY of life ... Not enough houses - no-one wants to build lots more on their doorstep - we are already a CROWDED country compared to the rest of Europe - terrible strain on infrastructure - roads / trains etc
@oldskool4572
@oldskool4572 7 жыл бұрын
He's absolutely spot on about the fact that the vast majority of people who voted for Brexit or Trump are not racist.
@darkdoescosplays
@darkdoescosplays 7 жыл бұрын
I liked Ed Miliband. I'd really like to see him part of the shadow cabinet... I did feel a sincerity from him. Just it was wrapped up in that New Labour, try-to-be-marketable packaging. I have found his comments since leaving the leadership far more agreeable.
@tomimpala
@tomimpala 7 жыл бұрын
"When we stand together, there is nothing we can't do."
@donaldderp1602
@donaldderp1602 7 жыл бұрын
Yet he stood against us, he cares about the property bubble and maintaining corporate capitalism.
@mullac1992
@mullac1992 7 жыл бұрын
Damn. Where was this passion before the election?!
@daviddouglas5581
@daviddouglas5581 6 жыл бұрын
I am very surprised how fair and real he comes across in this. He seems to really understand that people are sick of the left and politics in general.
@rigsby1454
@rigsby1454 7 жыл бұрын
Good interview this. Miliband came across and has come across in this last year a lot more relaxed and interesting than he did as leader.
@sosaq3841
@sosaq3841 7 жыл бұрын
The way Owen kept moving tells me Ed's breath must have been a little bit disturbing LOOOOL probably the bacon sandwich lol
@deathbyclownage
@deathbyclownage 7 жыл бұрын
Greatest Prime Minister we never had
@laurejon
@laurejon 6 жыл бұрын
The Tories wished to remain in the EU, which is why they are struggling. However they have a mandate to leave the EU, and if they don't hurry up, someone else will do it for them.
@simonreilly9447
@simonreilly9447 7 жыл бұрын
"Britains in the biggest crisis since 1945" Firstly, It's not it's on the verge of returning to greatness. Secondly, Owen's use of 1945 rather than 1939, 1940 or 1941 is very telling.
@periurban
@periurban 7 жыл бұрын
The world is three dimensional. It isn't about left and right. It's about up and down and near and far too.
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