Miroku VS Beretta

Although Miroku and Browning are very similar, we have not yet compared Miroku and Beretta together!
Jonny take his Old Miroku to EJ Churchill, meeting up with Ant and his EELL to see which gun comes out on top…
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[@drumhd1]

Always amazed at how well Jonny shoots guns that couldn’t possibly fit him…..

[@ChitFromChinola]

The banter between these guys is too fun. Good show!!

[@kenlansing1216]

It's always nice to see two good buddies teasing and torturing each other.

[@mallardcutter7209]

“Malnourished Yorkshire men “ 🤣🤣🤣

[@cirka99]

Should make a mini series of restoring the miroku👌👌

[@lucastolson3570]

so glad to see the Miroku out again! it is the gun that turned me on to shooting a big heavy Browning CXT as my main gun for everything.

[@tonyemans4512]

Always look forward to any content from both of you, makes me smile, informative and compulsive viewing. Keep it coming please.

[@mjordan3819]

I love the interaction between these two! Please keep the videos coming!

[@Scooter-dm3qo]

Jonny, rebuild the joint on your Miroku !!!!!! You know how to do it, you know it will provide for another century of service and you know it's bad form to shoot a gun in need of servicing. So fix the gun. I would also suggest that you give Ant's EELL a thorough cleaning and a bit of a touch up to the wood. Because if Ant actually sees his EELL in it's full glory then perhaps he'll start taking proper care of it.

[@merv690]

I could listen to you two debate anything, always a good laugh, and repour between you, But you know what you are talking about which helps

[@jimmarcham6271]

By the end, I'd completely forgotten what you were talking about. Too busy laughing at the banter 😂🤣

[@paulwilson7234]

Both Beretta and Miroku won a lot of competitions 💥💥

[@bretthay8501]

I’ve got an old Miroku 900 and a new Silver Pig and love them both. Use them both for hunting and the Miroku is my long range gun with 30inch barrel and the Baretta with 28 my close fast action gun.

[@wayne_vt]

"The stock is sized for malnourished Yorkshiremen". RIP Ant 🤣

[@ianj7724]

I really liked my silver pig adjustable, but absolutely love my MK38 sporter, changed out the butt pad and have a trap forend, all good. I love the clunk!! Great video lads.

[@alanharrison7593]

Great vid. Not much separates both brands. Comes down to fitment and preference. I was after a Silver pig and was recommended to check out Miroku. I picked up a 1995 made MK10 G5 for half of new price and it fit me like a dream.

[@williebourke9962]

I like the honest admission of rust on the gun after weeks in a press and then out shooting again .I'd be slightly like that when I shot but now retired .But of course premium guns such a miruku and Beretta are high quality smokepoles and that's the difference great video 👏👏🇨🇮

[@stephenrutland8838]

I'm here in US and love to see the double guns, keep the showing of good Guns.

[@shootingwithmitch5921]

I have a mk38 g5 trap gun, an 800 skeet gun and an ancient 600 sporter, miroku make fantastic guns!

[@glenns7139]

Good guns both worth having. Not tried a miroku yet. Got a silver pigeon though which i love but not as much as my caesar guerini. Would never sell it though. 😊. Keep bringing us these brilliant video jonny. And the small Yorkshire pudding. 😅🤣

[@SammitchHomestead1]

Good show Jonny, love my MK38 Trap

[@Retired-Tom]

Couldn't get on with the low comb beretta, so bought a Miroku MK38 Sporter. Loved it, just had to sell as its getting heavy as I'm getting older. Looking for a lighter 12bore that's like a Miroku?

[@robertaneas8736]

Nice video! I have FN browning B25 29" barrel and I wouldn't change it for anything in the world ❤

[@mikekurzhaar8843]

B25 BEST GUN......my brother also has it, he cuts the game to pieces, I have never seen such power before in any gun

[@claysnwingsshotgunning]

I've been a Browning owner my whole life, and I finally encounter a bad one a new 725 Sporting, after three different issues with the gun, that one had to go. I recently picked up a used 725 and so far so good with this one. FYI Browning's service which hasn't been the best in turn around time these days was actually very good for me.

[@donaldday1281]

At the end of the day they are both great shotguns. I would buy either one. Great video!😊

[@markh7288]

I had a Miroku which I often wasn’t able to shoot my second barrel. I was told that I hadn’t released the trigger properly, but I never had that problem in my Berettas. A good friend had exactly the same problem with his!

[@fullchoke01]

Miroku trigger needs to be fully released to reset, not the guns fault and its not an issue really

[@markh7288]

@@fullchoke01 but has never been an issue on any other gun.

[@fullchoke01]

@@markh7288 that's like saying i stalled a honda but never any other make, driver error!!!!

[@markh7288]

@@fullchoke01 in fact I drove a car once on holiday, yes I stalled it many times yet I haven’t stalled another car in 30 years!

[@fullchoke01]

@@markh7288 like i said, driver error

[@ddoherty5956]

Good to see Ant back.

[@usp40guy5]

Perhaps The recoil you're talkin about on the Miruku is because it's got some play in it? I have a Miruku and it started feeling like it was slamming me more when it loosened up

[@lusitanooutdoorchannel680]

It would be awesome to see you test some BioAmmo Blues with the almighty Miroku MK38 "Johnny Carter Edition".

[@peterheath8618]

Miroku ftw ❤️ was my first gun and I will buy another some day

[@rossforbes8403]

I was always beretta for years ,until I.picked up a mirouki ,now my 2 go to guns are a mirouki mk11 side plate 30inch And my clay smasher mk38 grade 5 32inch sporter both fitted with teauge titanium chokes and dam they shoot so good still got 2 berettas and had loads over the years but miroukis are better finished better wood and better handling

[@iain777uk]

My opinion which better changes from week to week. Which really means I like a change and to buy new things once in a while.

[@arthur703]

So nice 😬👍

[@JHruby]

I love how Beretta o/u guns look. And now the big however... Beretta o/u guns just do not fit me like a Miroku does out of the box. Yes, yes, they could be made to fit, of course. And now they come with a stack of plastic doodads to try to accomplish that, but the time and trial and error of that process. What tells a lot about Miroku's quality is that when Browning first went to Miroku for manufacturing, there were a lot of there goes the brand comments. Those didn't last long. If you're going to buy a gun to shoot it and shoot it hard you will be hard-pressed to find one that goes bang as many times without fail as a Miroku.

[@budzo100]

Hi Jonny, Good morning. Thanks for this gun vs gun video. One more gun vs gun I personally would like to see is Fabarm Elos Allsport VS Rizzini BR110 sporter. Currently I own one of these, but really want to see the comparison of both of these against each other. I'd do it, but can't afford it. HAHA. All the best,

[@G78.]

Beretta for small men miroku/browning for Real men 😊

[@nicosnicolaou1941]

Both guns are equally good, great for new shooters and also reliable

[@matthewlardner5328]

Prefer beretta to look at, had a EELL. Can’t shoot it anymore as my body shape changed and i can’t get one to fit! Gone to miroku as it fits perfectly and I’m totally converted!! It shoots like a dream and is bulletproof 💪🏻

[@silverbullet7434]

Any gun you shoot well and it fits you , is a gun you should shoot.. I've owned at least 10 different trap guns , most I could shoot well and take trophys. Barrettas ive had a combo , top single this one I won a handicap shoot in high winds with a 94 x 100 and got a yard &a half punch.Rottweil unsingle 34" several brownings a stainless bt99 which took me to the grand. A Perazzi mx200034 unsingle that gave me a All American team membership.. Stick with the ones you shoot well..

[@pedrojsanchezalvarado5569]

La miroku es una elegancia de arma amigos bellezas ❤

[@derrickgale4557]

So good 😂😂

[@mallardcutter7209]

Miroku because they fit me better than Beretta. Granted I have to replace the lower firing pin about every 8000 rounds.

[@fullchoke01]

Small price to pay, i am sold miroku know that they can sell the guns with harder wearing pins- but they make a gun that runs forever so they need some aftermarket sales😂

[@faganism]

Great video! Do you think you will do a deep dive on Beretta S56E? Hard to find much info on them.

[@benferguson1762]

What model miroku are you shooting there

[@craftandnature]

I apologise. I didn't catch up. Which Miroku model is in the video?

[@FumiTheKitten]

Can you do a review on the Fossari CRX9 BSS if you can get your hands on one? Been looking at this brand with boss style action and removable trigger. It seems to be a lot of BANG fir the buck. Would love to get your perspective on it. Thank you.

[@bennospijker9737]

Onley 1 Shotgun ! FN 1962

[@RICKUSNAUDE]

Would love to kbow who makes those shooting Jackets?

[@bryanwhitehead5227]

Would you guys review the CZ All American? I think for the money, it is one of the best bangs for the buck.

[@gundogsdirect]

Miroku all day long for me!

[@Drunk_Gaming]

I’ve watched this 3 times. When is the miroku factory tour video coming??

[@tgsoutdoors]

I wish

[@craftandnature]

​@@tgsoutdoorsI apologise but I didn't catch up... Which Miroku model is in the video?

[@TaralgaBushAdventure]

I'm in the 2nd-hand Maruke group.

[@SamhainBe]

Would love to own an EELL..

[@noeloconnor9518]

Same here😢

[@mr.ricochet8603]

Beretta for me, I've been to the factory myself. I wonder if other brands (ie miroku) could keep the same level of quality having that big of a production.

[@fullchoke01]

Considering Beretta are mostly machine made guns clicked together it's hardly a big feat to "keep quality", would be far harder for Miroku who hand finish/smoke in and sight barrels- which says a lot considering they are renowned for top level quality/reliability

[@dannym670]

Hi, im relatively new to shooting clays, ive applied for my shotgun certificate but still waiting for it. Ive got my heart set on a miroku mk38 trap 32" but do i buy say an ATA for £800 just to get me started and upgrade later or do I buy a miroku straight off the bat?

[@fullchoke01]

Second hand mk38 sporter 30 inch would be a great start, ata an ok cheap gun lots if features but a miroku it is not, 32 wouldn't jump straight into

[@BikeGunCarGav]

I bought a brand new beretta silver pigeon 3 last year and it spent more time at GMK than I had it. Ejected the bottom cartridge into the breach, the ‘high gloss’ finish flaked off and the fore end broke. I’ve just bought a Miroku and I love it, pound for pound the stocks are about 3 grades higher too! I’ve got more figure than most Beretta stocks now.

[@SnoopReddogg]

Had a Lanbar 2087... conservatively, I would've put 40000 shells through it. Never failed me. Meanwhile, the Miroku mk10 I traded it for has done 1 firing pin after 5000 shots. So, he'll and back, I'd take the Lanbar...

[@kollectivmusik8887]

Im a first time buyer and torn between a beretta and a miroku second hand.... im looking to spend 300-500.. as far as i can gather i should go for the miroku at that price point?? any opinions?

[@tgsoutdoors]

You could get a beretta auto for that money, but a £500 Miroku is going to be a stretch without getting an older less easy to repair one.

[@revdocjim2002]

I can't tell you how relieved I was when the elephant in the room was finally and clearly identified in this video... the fact that both of you don't have a clue how to pronounce "Miroku". So I will promise one thing right here and now. When we finally get you to Japan, prior to taking you on a tour of the Miroku factory, you and I will spend an evening over several sturdy beers (IPA being my preference), we will cover various underlying issues such as history, culture, linguistics and colonialism; and regardless of whether we get to the bottom of why people of certain nationalities routinely murder the pronunciation of foreign words or not... one thing I do promise. By the following morning you will know how to pronounce Miroku correctly!!! And I guarantee that it will sound nothing like the way you have pronounced it up until now. :) Here's to hoping this dream of mine comes true! And thanks for yet another fun video.

[@tgsoutdoors]

😂 you get us permission to be in that factory with a camera and I will be there!

[@revdocjim2002]

@@tgsoutdoors OK. I'll work on it!

[@TheMadgit]

The problem gets worse when you hear two different pronunciations from Japanese people. As you say though, neither are like most say it.

[@walksfletcher]

I've had a Winchester 101 Trap gun for 50yrs. Had 3 Beretta Skeet guns in the last 25yrs. Looking for an older Win 101 for a Skeet gun. Win 101 (Miroku) =10 Beretta =8

[@fullchoke01]

Winchester 101 was made by kodensha (nikko) not Miroku

[@rob-nb7oc]

For me, aesthetics plays a big part in my appreciation of a shotgun. I find both my Beretta 682's very pleasing to the eye, and they shoot as well as they look. Here in the USA we have perhaps the the best Beretta warranty service there is in Cole Fine Guns and Gunsmithing in Naples, FL. As far as the Miroku is concerned, if you had a dog that was that unattractive, you'd probably be tempted to shave its hindquarters, and make it walk backwards.

[@fullchoke01]

A base model mk38 isnt a pretty gun, its a workhorse, same as a 686 silv pig- probably the ugliest gun going

[@zmumtaz]

Johnny you need to sell that m38 and get a new one. I have sold two 725 sporters and regret it. Some day in the near future I plan to get another. Don't get me wrong I obviously upgraded and shoot it really well.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Why sell it, I don’t use it a lot and it has great sentimental value.

[@the45er]

Wait til you try to tell someone that you shoot an Italian Marocchi Model 99.

[@csmiley82]

Please translate “slack as a bag of knackers” for your American viewers 😂

[@dave_724]

There aren’t a lot of northerners that shoot miroku that is a very true comment having grown up in yorkshire you’d see 10 beretta’s for 1 browning or miroku !

[@allannantes8583]

That is because their hands fit the Beretta better, something to do with them having a poor diet. As per Jonny. Ha ha.

[@682GoldE79]

Beretta for me, Browning/Miroku don't fit me too well, (apart from the 725).

[@anthonyrussomanno1540]

I’ll take the Miroku in fact I’ll take almost anything over a Beretta

[@delhogg5380]

Do you think beretta 20g is the nicest 20 on the market?? I find that beretta make lovely small bores but that’s just me maybe

[@erichowell1967]

Beretta cause our mirokus in America are called browning

[@Ivanovich_28]

Miroku. 👍💪🔥

[@DFox-ud3gx]

Those old Berettas were built to last how ever not so true on the newer one's Browing division will always be the best older or the new....

[@danhill6333]

The almost perfect clay shooting gun = A400. Just make it a bit cheaper. 😉

[@danhill6333]

Ant Mclearnon, "Bareher". 😂

[@matthewfenton8775]

I shoot everything with two half chokes in, now don’t get me wrong I havnt had the gun out in 5/6 months so a 38/50 I’ll take it. A handful of silly dropped clays too.

[@felixd7818]

The unfortunate part of the Miroku/Browning guns in the US is the worst customer service in America.

[@jeremiah5313]

Beretta all the way! 🤠

[@hammyh1165]

Beretta for me , I just don't like the slab sides on the Miroku and the horrible shape of the forend at the action , that right angle just doesn't look good. Jonny you can't get onto Ant about neglecting his EELL when your Longthorne has rusty barrels from not cleaning 😂.

[@noeloconnor9518]

I have two beretta 's including a 687 sliver pigeon 3 but that EELL is a thing of beauty❤

[@Tippermixer86]

Is that a dirty great big crack in the fore end 😮 🤯🤯

[@parrisgeorge9708]

It is a crack. Johnny said something about a mishap with it a while ago.

[@alanwood7373]

Beretta

[@fullchoke01]

No comparison, Miroku over beretta 7 days a week. In Aus you can get a grade 3 Mk10 competition grade gun for less than a 686, to match the Miiroku you pay 2-3 times into a 694, and still they aren't finished anywhere near Miroku quality, mass produced by a company who cares more about IT and marketing than actually making guns

[@adamcraig5355]

be gd see you do perfect clay gun/guns say one from say a grand or under, to one money not being a object?

[@afellowinnewengland6142]

Describing a worn Miroku is like describing a worn Toyota. You may wish things were tighter, more elegant and more precise, but they both always work reliably. Personally I would like to have seen you pattern both guns on paper to check barrel alignment. Beretta can be very inconsistent in build quality and alignment. I bet the Miroku would have had the edge. Full disclosure: I’m a Browning person so I only partly have a horse in the race.

[@spency787]

And the elephant in the room? How much would a novice shooter have to pay for those exact (used) guns from their local dealer? An enjoyable video but hardly a fair comparison

[@nigelmchugh5541]

Miroku s/h probably from £1000 to £2000. EELL? Probably £3500 to £4500

[@TheMadgit]

That exact Miroku would be about £500. You can get a pretty good use one for a grand.

[@K80Ed]

Miroku, I think David Florent shoots one that’s good enough for me! #swoon

[@tgsoutdoors]

Nah, he told me that #YILDIZ was far superior

[@fullchoke01]

​@@tgsoutdoors shots fired....

[@TheMadgit]

​@@fullchoke01 I wouldn't be worried if I was Ed. Florent isn't as good a shot as people think.

[@STTrout]

Browning all day. Beretta's unless you pay big bucks are cheap kiln dried tat now days.

[@Blondejam]

I have an MK38 and a B725 and I much prefer the handling of the MK38. I tried a Silver P but could not get the right feel through the pistol grip which is a shame as it was a nice gun. The weight in my MK suits me better too. As said guys, find a gun that does it for you regardless of make. Lovely vid great banter!!!

[@stevemaynard9003]

I have owned and shot a lot of Miroku and Browning guns, much prefer them to Berettas. One thing I dislike with Berettas is when you open them, you have to hold the barrels down, as the gape to load the lower barrel is compromised. This does not happen with Mirokus, it certainly does not happen with my Longthorne sidelock, as that gun is an assisted opener and holds itself fully open, making it easy to load the lower barrel.

[@joshshillingford848]

I think I prefer beretta

[@pedrojsanchezalvarado5569]

🇪🇨🇪🇨👍

[@gavinshiels7899]

Beretta go's bang bang no matter the cartridge. Miroku-browning bang click on the top barrel

[@adriantyler6911]

Never mine....

[@paulbugden7708]

🤮 - 🤢 😂 Here's an idea (maybe done already). A video on the perfect cross over gun! Not brand specific, spec For us novice who are prepared to pay for a quality gun, that with a choke change can do Skeet, Trap, Sporting and a hunter. Or am I being naive?

[@danielmasset4153]

...totally on board with this idea...i would love to see a gun with the fit of a Browning (low comb) and the looks and feel of a Beretta( thin profile) in a cross over style ...a gun you can carry all day in the field and the next day go to the range and shoot all forms of clays...vented barrels and rib, moderate weight (6.5# in 20 ga.) and as reliable as a Beretta and Browning and in multiple guages and extended chokes...