*FINAL REVIEW* M&P 2.0 10mm Swampfox Justice

[@theturkeysopinion]

Dude... I'm so jealous. Mine was a train wreck and you have a tank! Nice video brother! Thanks for putting in all that ammo! Real testing there. Poppin primers and still runnin...wow👍🦃👊

[@pacifist_productions]

This Buffaloes Bore had a little bit of pop to them! Thanks bro 👍🇺🇸

[@davidcooper7062]

Did you get rid of your M&P?

[@johnprice327]

@@davidcooper7062 YES FAST AND GOT SPRINGFIELD ARMORY 10MM...SHOOT ALL HOT LOADS JUST LIK MY GLOCKS .

[@brianvosburgh1720]

Train wreck??? Elaborate please. Looking at one but hearing mixed reviews. Love the grip and feel.

[@TruthGotGunz]

@@brianvosburgh1720mine is great. Not one issue and I’ve ran every hot load available. I have the 4.6 inch, I’ve heard all the problems were in the 4 inch…

[@jeffreylocke8808]

Floyds Custom makes an aluminum base plate for the magazine that adds one round to the magazine and is aluminum so a bit stronger than the plastic base plate.

[@donaldpotter3200]

Picked up the 4.6 “ version a couple of weeks ago. Put on a Holosun 507c gr x2. Ordered a Galloway 24lb guide rod and spring. Also ordered 2 springer precision extra power mag springs. They should be here Monday. Can’t wait to zero it a couple weeks

[@bsmithhammer]

Enjoyed the vid, Just got one in 4.6" and ordered the C&H plate/stainless screws for my 507c X2 for extra piece of mind. I think this will be a great mountain gun.

[@2ndprotectsthe1st27]

They did have problems with the release mags. Smith has since added 1 more turn to the spring and put the correction into full production and has solved all feeding problems. I just bought 8 of the latest in june. 0 feed problems with the new mags and 250 rounds of SnB factory loads.

[@pacifist_productions]

wow, thanks man! I will have to pick a few up. TFW!!

[@TheSonsOfSimon]

How many coils did the old springs have vs the new mag springs?

[@christopherrobin9472]

Yea I definitely need to get me one of those M&P 10mm 2.0's!

[@jakelapoint]

Sig xten owner here.. i load 220gr hardcast from rim rock bullets. This is the same projectile used in buffalo bore's heavy outdoorsman. Absolute beast of a round. Great video bud!

[@richardmeredith69]

you know a simple thing like taking it down and cleaning it probably would fix the problem, because I’ve had malfunctions took the gun home, cleaned It, went back with the same ammo, had no issues..

[@pacifist_productions]

never thought of that, thank you.

[@richardmeredith69]

I’ll actually give you an example I purchased a Beretta 92 F A1, took it right to the range. Everything was giving me problems. I stripped it completely down, including the magazines after that at worked flawless. After learning about these red dots on pistols, I would go with a Holosun, everything they make seems to be pretty good. And I started out with the trijicon RMR.

[@davidcooper7062]

Awesome video!!! I'm thinking the feed ramp polishing from the previous video had to make a huge difference in the feeding. I hope S&W watches this and maybe they can put a little extra effort in the assembly process. After watching: your first video, Chukes Outdoor Adventures, LW Road, Justin Opinion and The Turkey's Opinion "Train wreck" along with a few others it is clear that all had similar misfeeds and you can see how a rough feed ramp may be the cause. I think I will buy one …along with a Dremel with polishing bits and compound.

[@pacifist_productions]

I do think it made a big difference. She ran like a tank on this day! TFW

[@coskier1969]

Mine fed mild 10mm perfect but a lot of stovepiping with hot 10mm. Buffalo Bore, Underwood.

[@quoththeraven7]

Good to see the M&P 2.0 10mm is not having problems on this channel. not the chase on about six different other channels I've watched. And I'm watching the way Alan Squeezes the trigger When he's shooting the gun. but nothing a little training won't solve.

[@stevebracewell9675]

Watched many test on this gun, some had problems but after oiling as per S&W instructions had no more problems,others changed various springs,and some like you had zero problems,makes me wonder is failure to feed is a random problem or is it a shooter error

[@dennis1979gm]

I always get a kick out of watching guys from other countries getting to shoot. They always seem grin from ear to ear. Great video! Appreciate the info. I get my M&P 10mm today! Can't wait!

[@nickiebuswell2991]

Love mine but the two mags it came with won't take more than 10 rounds and they are 15 capacity. I've tried with my uplula and doesn't matter. Ordered an extra mag from mag tech an dit works perfectly, taking all 15. Gun is great otherwise. No failures, I love the grips and extra grips you get. Easy to clean. Great value for the quality. Glad I got it over the Xten

[@adventurfly879]

You must have got a state restricted model with the 10 round limit...

[@Leehealy-wheninthewoods]

Best review with broadest array of ammo for this gun yet. Considering this gun over the g20 for my woods gun because the ergonomics of the sw gap the blocky large frame on the g20’s.

[@pacifist_productions]

Thanks again brother! Have you seen the new x10 from Sig yet?

[@Leehealy-wheninthewoods]

@@pacifist_productions yup I did. Not sure how I feel about sigs, but it’s worth a look. My local shop only has the sw 10mm however, so it’s a debate whether ordering and waiting for stock is worth it.

[@noid9798]

It’s a good powerhouse gun, I’ve seen many failures to feed with other major gun brands.

[@DeusRegum]

I wonder if the initial batch of guns were not thoroughly QC'd? Because at first launch, there were quite a few videos out where this gun was failing left and right. Glad yours turned out good.

[@pacifist_productions]

Thank you 👍

[@bradmancini6282]

It's still failing. Just bought one

[@jimsteinway695]

I just got mine and 200 rounds thru no problem but everything goes left. Checked the front sight and it’s off by 1mm. Going to adjust tomorrow. My daily carry is a performance center 9mm shield plus. Everything with that gun was dead on

[@ronolson2024]

Make sure you practice with your pistol as racking the slide with a full 13 round magazine is difficult at best, & impossible for some.

[@YouLookinAtMe-Bro]

​@@ronolson2024 I had a little trouble with my mags as well. I watched a few KZbin videos in how to correct that. Also, the 15 round Equalizer rounds don't seem to have that problem in the Shield Plus. Good luck, have fun, and be safe!👍

[@carlrobinson8177]

Outstanding Awesome video, thanks for sharing 👊😁💯🔥

[@michaeltordillos4162]

Appreciate your 3 part video. Instead of just Hating it. And getting mad at Smith WessonYou were pro active and tried to fix it. Glad it all worked out. I.usualky like to wait a year before I get a new model so all the bugs get worked out. But only could.wait.4 months 😄 🤣. I don't have mine yet but now I know what to do. Take it to a Smith to polish it all up 😄 🤣

[@michaelmcmillan2776]

I hope I have the same luck as you. I had the exact same firearm with a 507c on top that I have not shot one time. I have the same assortment of ammo and I'm hoping to have just as good of a day today as you did great video thank you so much

[@pacifist_productions]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWWqcnWIZ6-kjsU I did do a little work to it before my final review. TFW 👍🇺🇸

[@3991melkoun]

Thanks for the follow up! I'm a Rhode islander and love going up to NH! Hopefully soon enough I can grab one of these M&P myself

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Glad it seems to feed a lot better

[@mixedmarksman5873]

Want to buy the 4 inch as a backup woods carry but idk if it's reliable enough we need updates please lol

[@ChrisFromThe740]

Great review video and you really tortured it with some of that ammo.

[@bobroberts6986]

Where are the magazines? Someone PLEASE light a fire under S&W. It's been out for over 3 months and magazines are UNAVAILABLE.

[@mrjeffjob]

The .45 Auto mags work just fine. Try one.

[@lonestar8190]

@@mrjeffjob no they don’t work just fine. Failure to feed, no slide lock back

[@Frank-kc3xs]

My 4.6 ran well to start. Got a few failures so I polished like you did. If the wind ever stops I’ll go shoot it. Would like to buy your safety and parts since mine came without

[@bigmike716]

I pick up my M&P 10mm next week. Thanks for the great content.

[@pacifist_productions]

Awesome!! Thanks for watching 👍🇺🇸

[@mikedawson1907]

How did it shoot big mike ?

[@bigmike716]

I was so impressed with this pistol! I have really big hands and I put the Floyds Customs magwell on it, fits like a glove. I can shoot this very well with my 508T on top. I was shooting the bullseye out of the target at 15 yards. The grip texture lets me keep the gun extremely stable when shooting fast. This has become one of my favorite pistols, and I have a bunch. @@mikedawson1907

[@jeffreylocke8808]

C&H Precision makes an aluminum plate that replaces whatever plastic plates come with the pistol. The optic will stay on.

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

Good to know. Thanks for sharinf

[@ToddTheGunGuy]

Love watching you guys shooting that beast. Gotta hold on tight😂🤙

[@pacifist_productions]

That Buffalo bore was hotttt!

[@nhwoodswalker3253]

Great video subscribed from sw New Hampshire

[@mikemitchell1455]

Great review good intel

[@thetnpickers]

Hey cool with the guy shooting for the first time. I just did a video with a guy with a fear of guns that shot for the first time. It was a very cool video to make.

[@adventurfly879]

Hey man quick question.....when you mounted your swampfox did you use the 6-32 screws that came with the optic? Because I'm only getting about 2 turns of thread engagement and wondering if it's secure. I've seen this pistol shear screws and throw optics

[@pacifist_productions]

I used a metal plate and screws from C&H precision. I had the stock screws sheer off on the first day.

[@clays7741]

Thank you for the thorough reviews! I just bought one!

[@kristophershaffer2876]

I have 4 10mm pistols but have seen way too many videos of the Springfield XDM Elite 10mm, and all three Glock really out preform the smiths. Hoping to see a gen 2 M&P 10 mm with major improvements so I can get one

[@AJ-gk7bn]

Don’t think a gen 2 is necessarily. Seems the early batches just had a few issues. Seems they’ve gotten everything pretty well under control now. Maybe it’s worth holding off a little longer to ensure you don’t get one of the early releases but should probably be good to go. I’ve also seen a few cases of people who’s problems went away by just simply saying deeply cleaning the gun the way the manual recommends.

[@al01100]

Me too! I bought the 4" first and it was horrible! It wouldn't get through a magazine of anything without stumbling. I then ran across the 4.6in, that's what I wanted to start with and I've read they are more reliable than the 4in, so I bought it. That gun stumbled on the last round for the first few mags and I thought I had a winner! Nope! It went downhill fast from there, turns out it was the same garbagecthe 4in was. I tried wolff mag & recoil springs and it got better but it would still hang up. The nature of the malfunction was always the same, in both guns. The fresh round coming up world slam into the top of the barrel hood and hold the slide open. I got rid of the 4in gun and I'm going to hang onto the 4.6in for a while and hope someone comes up with a solution. I'm pretty sure most of the problem is mag design

[@nathankremer8324]

​@@al01100Did you by chance purchase your guns recently or were they from older stock? I'm hoping smith has this taken care of from factory now as I'm on the fence about purchasing one.

[@al01100]

@Nathan Kremer the 4" gun was purchased last May, the 4.6 I bought mid October. I still have the 4.6 but I picked up a springfield xdm elite and that gun functions flawlessly! I still have hopes that smith will come up with a fix for the m&p 10 though, those guns really feel great in the hand

[@nathankremer8324]

@@al01100 Thanks for the reply. Half of me is really hoping they've fixed the issues with the M&P, the other half says to get the Springfield and save on worrying.

[@freddyw4555]

Mine never worked so got rid of it for the Springfield

[@DDDYLN]

Does it fail to cycle Underwood and Buffalo Bore hardcast? I've heard it has problems with those rounds, because they're a bit longer than typical 10mm rounds.

[@eddiearchuleta615]

Looks like the 4.6 inch and optic is optimal for the right slide weight

[@2ndprotectsthe1st27]

Also take a look at Magnaport to tame the flip.

[@Ali-7676]

When an Irishman mentions an AR-15, the first thing to come to my mind is the IRA song "My Little Armalite"

[@brianwebb7301]

Did Alan learn to slap the trigger in the British military

[@benjohnson4859]

The new 10mm 3.8 compact by springfield is the new king of 10mm above g20 and smith and wesson

[@ronolson2024]

The Turkey's Opinion runs his Springfield 10mm 3.8" pistol hard & has (2) serious issues with a trigger breakage & now mag release issues. The Glock is still KIMG until something more reliable proves itself. And I am not a Glock fanboy as of the 12 pistols I own, only 1 is a Glock 20, modified with a KKM barrel, enhanced trigger, & Talon grips. All to have a gun with features other manufacturers give you out of the box. I hate Glock, but they are reliable.

[@jbone6246]

@@ronolson2024 I have a gen4 Glock 20 and a Glock 40 mos, they both ran great right out of the box. I never really saw a reason to fix something that wasn't broke? Not the best feeling trigger but works just fine, if I wanted a trigger as good as a 1911, I would buy one of them instead. What you said makes no sense, you say you hate them, but they are reliable, but you modify something that is proven reliable, probably making it less reliable in the process.

[@TheGrizz25]

What did you do to fix the optic coming off? Just replacement screws or did you get an aluminum adapter plate?

[@pacifist_productions]

I got a metal plate and better screws from C&H Precision. TFW

[@mlrllama]

Thanks for this video. Love seeing our Irish friends having a blast (pun intended) sending freedom seeds at high velocities downrange :) What I'm curious about is how it would hold up firing a steady diet of full-house 10mm (i.e. Underwood and Buffalo Bore offerings) loads. I currently own a G20 Gen 3 that only eats my 10mm hand loads, but I also reinforced it with a 22 lbs recoil spring and KKM barrel to tame these beasts. After 5,000+ rounds it's still running strong with no signs of abnormal wear. I've read some mixed reviews about the M&P not having a stout enough recoil spring to handle the legit 10mm loads, and one guy I spoke to at the range who owned one seemed to think the same. What's your thought on that front? I'm intrigued with the ergonomics the M&P offers, as they're superior to the Glock in my hands. But, I'm concerned about the durability of the weapon holding up over time.

[@pacifist_productions]

She ran the hot stuff just fine. I will pick up a heavier spring when they become available aftermarket 👍

[@thetnpickers]

We shot underwood hard cast and 180 buffalo bores in our video and had several failures to feed

[@Alop777]

Your brother-in-law needs to work on that recoil control. He's making that 10mm recoil look extremely painful.

[@donjuan4933]

what length barrel and what are you "carrying" said loads for?

[@kevinhurley7021]

well at least nothing flew off this time , hahaahahahahaha, glad to see you got back on the horse , nice review

[@pacifist_productions]

Thank you sir

[@donio8194]

Very nice review. Do You still have ruger 1911 10 mm?

[@wilkaiba]

Hey @guntotingpacifist how was the plate and screws upgrade from C&H precision? I am interested in this gun but skeptical because you're the second KZbinr I've seen have issues with optic flying off during review session. I don't own any m&p products but two of my buddies swear by them. Thanks in advance!

[@pacifist_productions]

Still holding strong. I had to get some SwampFox screws though. The C&H screws overlapped the battery cover for the Justice. Thanks for watching bro 👍

[@wilkaiba]

@@pacifist_productions thanks for the reviews on this piece. I will see if a local range had one to rent and try it out before I buy. I'm debating between this in the 4 inch barrel and the xdm elite compact 10mm. Thanks again!

[@AlaskanBallistics]

I hope you reload all that brass

[@pacifist_productions]

The aluminum too 😂

[@brianclay3315]

Aww. You went with the 4.6 barrel.. 4" is where it's at bro..

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

Nah. More velocity is where it’s at.

[@akcharlie1960]

How did the red dot work in bright snowy conditions?

[@pacifist_productions]

No problem at all. TFW

[@muddog2159]

How you fix the swamp fox back on the m&p what really happened

[@pacifist_productions]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWWqcnWIZ6-kjsU

[@michaeltordillos4162]

That plate from Chpw was the MP Core?

[@pacifist_productions]

Yes but the screws they sent with it overlapped the battery cover on my SwampFox. I had to use the SwampFox screws 👍

[@michaeltordillos4162]

@@pacifist_productions thanks. I wasn't sure if the core and the rest of the optics ready were the same.pattern.

[@bigmike716]

That Buffalo Bore 220gr kicks like a mule. lol.

[@gsb5w291]

What stick was your twin holding near the end?

[@pacifist_productions]

La Gianna

[@robfarris4849]

What was the best ammo

[@pacifist_productions]

Underwood

[@matthewg4953]

Did you put the C&H metal plate on it?

[@pacifist_productions]

I did kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWWqcnWIZ6-kjsU

[@HuntsFood]

Thanks for sharing, much appreciated!

[@DMFaas]

Way to go Sam and you did alright too Pacifist.

[@pacifist_productions]

Thanks buddy 👍🇺🇸

[@pat4145]

if it's not a flying red dot it's a primer LOL maybe you have a magnet in your forehead !!! waaaaaaa LOL Love the channel great sense of humor us irish guys lol

[@pacifist_productions]

Thanks Pat 😂

[@AlaskanBallistics]

hsm, critical dutyand federal fusion are weak loads

[@gvjsmj11]

Did you change the recoil spring for a heavier one?

[@pacifist_productions]

I did not.

[@eddiearchuleta615]

I run the 4.6 and the holosun 509t so should eat the hottest ammo

[@gvex]

they have a plate for the 2.0 10mm with holosun 509t?

[@eddiearchuleta615]

Yes C&H precision makes them

[@brianrichards5694]

Are there just a bunch of glock fan boys trying to discredit the m&p 10mm?cause i have not had any problem with m&p guns in other calibers including the 40cal

[@johnprice327]

WILL NOT HANDLE THE REAL 10MM LOADS .

[@pt6998]

This 4.6" 10mm in the video did though.

[@yakkintyler7293]

Mine does

[@jamiecollett8840]

Mine handles everything I feed it including the hottest and heaviest Underwood and Buffalo Bore loads.

[@Tac2cool556]

Big fella form needs work

[@Bornno.1]

To much recoil for me

[@kingpin7673]

nice

[@richardreed2839]

Sorry i had to leave...that noise while you where shooting was too wierd.

[@MichaelJohnson-yr3ub]

😂😂😂 British military

[@camcameron1430]

Wait. What about all the failure to feed rounds from the other video? It doesn't do ok with the 200 grain or whatever? But only after 500 rounds? Cause these underwood and buffalo bore were ok?

[@bobyjones3905]

I’ve seen those videos I’ve never had a problem with mine . But all I’ve shot is 180 grain FMJ

[@al01100]

M&p 10mm is garbage. I had both the 4" and the 4.6", both were jamomatics. I like the m&p's but smith made a mess with their 10's

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

I’m going to wait a year and then get it. I’ve heard reports that newer guns have been slightly changed.

[@jpg_sig10]

2,080 rounds of 10mm Auto ammo through my 4.6" M&P since late May 2022 with 100% flawless functionality. No malfunctions of any kind whatsoever. It's run everything I fed through it, including almost 700 rounds of Underwood Ammo ranging from 140 Gr Xtreme Penetrator through 220 Gr FN HCL, and 20 rounds each of 220 Gr FN HCL from Buffalo Bore and Steinel Ammo. This is a great pistol, with great ergonomics, that's very easy to shoot well. So much better, and far more reliable, than my old Gen3 Glock 20SF. Good things! 👍