Rebuilding our BATTLEBOT (VIDEO #3/4)

[@Cr33p3rman1]

As a former electrical engenier in germany please avoid multilayer ceramic capacitators. They crack under vibrations or impactpluses. They are known to burst and short the supplyrail connected. Replace them with single layer cersmic capacitators or tantalum capacitators. I can tell you a dozent cases where there are going bed. In one case it was on a cnc controller board. A spindle crash had shock the maschiene. The caps looked visual good. With the help of a thermal camara we could see that they are shortet. After desoldering they came appart in two pieces. In some cases they even pass a normal resistans test and arc at higher voltages ass the 3v ohm test of a standart multimeter.

[@cordawg89]

So yeah you are correct in that they crack however there are ways to use ceramic caps in high vibe and shock environments without issue. I’ve put them on rockets just fine (and I mean big rockets). Some come with soft terminations, others have J-leads, potting helps put strain relief on the solder joints and putting the electronics on mechanical isolators can dampen the higher frequencies that would damage the caps. There are many methods to approach it to make it work. In the case of your CNC controller board it’s possible the design was made without the requirement of surviving high vibe or shock, especially if it was mounted away from the moving parts.

[@krysmun]

hoping my reply boosts this comment

[@nicholas_obert]

I feel some Deutschheit in your response. Anyway, great addition. Electrolytic capacitors would also be likely to burst under stress, wouldn't they? Just asking.

[@Cr33p3rman1]

@@nicholas_obert every component needs to be secured in such a way that it is resistant to vibrations. Elkos can be glued or Pottet. The Real problem is how a failure affects The circuit. Normaly there are multiple elkos. If one lead or solder joint breaks its not a big problem. It is simply out of the circuit. If a multilayer ceramic cap breaks it offen shorts the circuit. That means all electronic on that rail is dead.

[@realgagy9135]

@@cordawg89 how big are we talking?

[@Shred-Tech]

We're thrilled to be part of the journey. We hope Orbitron shredded the competition!

[@nightmareblack3346]

One of the coolest partnerships I've ever seen!

[@superkid5485]

@@nightmareblack3346maybe in the future they can make atom from real steel!

[@NingZhang-w7r]

Orbitron did shred the competition😀

[@robertrietmeijer1249]

Hacksmith has to be the only company to casually use an actual lightsabre for construction

[@jasonhilts2661]

they should just fit the lightsabre to the robot. Think Gruff, but with a lightsabre to melt right through the opponent's armour. Win or lose, that thing would be awesome to watch, plus the inevitable explosion when they lose... :)

[@Mediocre_Soup]

that came in real handy huh

[@Mediocre_Soup]

@@jasonhilts2661 their lightsabers right now takes like 2 minutes of straight burning to get through steel, also the gas tanks would have to be super big and are combustable

[@rokaslokusevicius3810]

@@Mediocre_Soup also that's against battlebots rules because of metal melting

[@JosephSchrader5801]

Saber not sabre

[@grantcatdone3417]

The co creator of BattleBots trey roski has said that from the various amount of proving grounds participants both manta and orbitron are guaranteed to enter the tv show!

[@volante56]

as long as disarray doesnt get in, I'm happy

[@deltoncbaker]

To preserve hardness: 1.) cooling naturally makes the metal softer. 2.) Quinching the metal in a oil bath is the recommended method for preserving hardness.

[@junebug9267]

You can cold bend ar500. You just need a much bigger radius. Look at how big the radius Witchdoctor has on their front wedges

[@vinylSummer]

Stay hard 🦅🦅🦅

[@brunomorenomata7978]

If you cool the material quickly (quenching) it becomes harder but more brittle (which I doubt would benefit armor that is suposed to recieve impacts). Source, a lab in material science I did yesterday.

[@xxhitherexx9413]

You wrong kinda

[@phoephoe795]

A lot more difficult to do- quench cool the outside face for hardness and slow cool the inside face for softer more ductile metal. The softer internal protects the harder face from failing catastrophically when it takes an extreme hit. Same principle is used on katana blades and battleship armour plating.

[@MattsAwesomeStuff]

Bogdan - If you want to pot electronics, you need to pot them with something soft like silastic first before you shroud or submerge that in epoxy. Components flex too much during thermal loading, which will cause them to fail if potted directly. The 2-stage potting is what's used on high-end e-bike controllers, for the same reasons.

[@devam8192]

I am sincerely cheering for you guys to make it big in battlebots and go against the big-dogs like Endgame, Sawblaze, Hydra, Riptide etc. IT WILL BE LIT!

[@paulsrobotics]

I love your stronger bar shape, and blue too! :) Glad to see you all building BattleBots, keep it up, thanks for sharing this video with such a wide audience! -Paul Ventimiglia (Bite Force)

[@yeti_777]

You were always the best/most crafty driver at battlebots, so fun to watch

[@hacksmith]

Thanks Paul! Means a lot coming from a legend like you!

[@aidentra9157]

10:00 Hearing, “We’ve made some really cool scale models of Orbitron” while I’m 3D printing scaled models I designed of my own combat robot while watching this is actually hilarious

[@sargentbrick8899]

me to lol

[@Slangsvold_Designs]

Same😂

[@-jank-willson]

same lol

[@nevenlukic]

What happens to the orbiting algorithm if the other robot is in the corner? Will the orbit move to the center or will your robot hit a wall. Interested to hear how you solved that. Great job on the robot, looking forward to the fight footage.

[@hacksmith]

That's why it's an assist mode, not always on

[@caven7931]

The battlebot episodes are my favorite

[@NingZhang-w7r]

Same for me

[@yuri886]

Good luck guys! new version looks great! Fingers crossed you get the W :)

[@4RILDIGITAL]

It's truly impressive to see the dedication and hard work put into improving Orbitron. The attention to detail in redesigning, rebuilding and going back to fight shows real commitment. The usage of ar500 for the blades must have been a game-changer!

[@vkllocalpanda]

To preserve hardness: 1.) cooling naturally makes the metal softer. 2.) Quinching the metal in a oil bath is the recommended method for preserving hardness. I saw deltoncbaker post this first and would agree after looking it up when i heard them say let it cool naturally but maybe its cause of the type of metal

[@wmose3694]

some metals are air hardening some need an oil quench some need a water quench some need a cryo quench in super cooled liquid -300f others need to be slowly cooled to prevent stress fractures it really comes down to what alloy

[@nicholas_obert]

Assuming that's an aluminum plate, regular quenching would probably not work. Maybe precipitation hardening? Edit: Yep, I missed it's ar500

[@vkllocalpanda]

Well they did say it's ar 500

[@wmose3694]

@@nicholas_obertjust an FYI you can heat treat many aluminum alloys for both hardness or for ductility Heat treating dose not mean hardening you can heat treat to get a particular grain structure to hit a hardness or flexibility or machine ability or just to refine the crystalline grain structure of the metal

[@CanadiansInCarsGettingCocky]

Hacksmith gonna put a lightsabre on a battlebot 😂

[@zeroinfinity5864]

That would be cool.

[@immediately2828]

You should cover the Robot with cut protection trousers. That would stop all rotation weapons.

[@AnhadS]

Entanglement is against the rules

[@ThePunischer1000]

Sadly against the rules. Thats why the fights are always boring spinner x vs spinner y

[@subsnovideos-ur4cn]

@@ThePunischer1000 boring??

[@xxhitherexx9413]

It won't work I think

[@normalchannel2185]

I guess yea. I mean, i can think of so many types of robots, like a ramming bot designed to basically vibrate the internals of the opponent and shake it loose, a bot with an induction coil to melt the opponent, a trapper bot that catches the opponent etc. @@subsnovideos-ur4cn The point of a robot v robot battle should be making the best robot that can win. So use as many dirty tricks as possible

[@potatorocko]

Really enjoying the new format of videos. Less standard youtube quantity and more quality video content. Keep up the good work!

[@hacksmith]

Sadly our views have been super low 😞 not sure what to do

[@Sivaramachandran971]

Yes I also noticed

[@Sivaramachandran971]

But don't worry you guys are still the best😊

[@alejolab]

@@hacksmith if it helps, I saw the thumbnail multiple times and I ignored it until I realized it was yours. The before/after format doesn't provide a lot of information here It may appeal only to BattleBots enthusiasts and that could be sending mixed signals to the algorithm. A thumbnail with more spectacle may be more inline with your target audience. I'd say a shot of orbitron launching engine into the air, I see it referenced a lot in the comments as the high point of the video. Either way, keep testing to find a solution for the drop in views and keep creating great inventions!

[@Arouxayis]

​@@hacksmithstrangely I haven't seen your guys stuff in my feed. This is the first time in a while.

[@AvidCNC]

LOVE that you dove right in machining 3/4 aluminum on our machines! As a bunch of engineering nerds ourselves we are super impressed. Keep it up!🦾

[@hacksmith]

Love our new router table!!!

[@vlad_makes_stuff]

I was so sad when it failed for the first time. Im so happy it is back :)

[@Chooseyouruniquehandlebyaddin]

To harden metal, you need to quickly cool it down. That AR500 is already hardened, but if you heat it up that hot and slowly cool it down, its no longer hardened.

[@dudeboi8109]

we need the hacksmith and jlaser collab asap

[@zeta4687]

they just casually pull out lightsabre to heat things up is crazy

[@Narcan885]

@JonaasK Or when they spell rogue "rouge"

[@DougRules2.0]

The sheer power of Orbitron is incredible!!

[@Bruhnerd69]

agreed

[@PsykoPathic]

Yes

[@MahadOperation]

Gyz you should try spiderman fabricator trust me people will go nuts love Pakistan

[@brayanbrayns]

my favourite youtubers joining the battlebots, I'm loving this very much.

[@MacStrange]

A new version very well cared for and designed. Good luck guys

[@newtommy876]

15:31 “tossed this thing 5 ft into the air” as if you canadians are even brave enough to use the imperial system

[@nekrugderzweite8298]

I love that you take your Ls and turn them around as if they were a W! Huge learning potential that is now getting used! Really excited for this new chapter!

[@linus3dOfficial]

Nice floor in the Tent!!! And the roof rack is still not on the Truck 😅 Great Video!

[@comn2778]

You should check out the NHRL robot competitions too! I feel like it would suit the channel well. :)

[@Bot_Boys213]

I love Orbitron and dispite the fact that it is a vertical spinner it is still very unique!

[@junebug9267]

Its like RIPperonis boring cousin

[@Bot_Boys213]

@@junebug9267 Boring?

[@junebug9267]

@@Bot_Boys213 ues boring. If your not dressed up like you work at a pizzeria your boring in comparison

[@Mx_E_is_me]

The Hacksmith gonna rise like a phoenix in Battlebots.

[@onesadtech]

The fact that Orbitron could go THROUGH the hot water tank, fling it several feet in the air, and still have enough energy left in the weapon to shred more parts off the washing machine is equally terrifying and awesome. 😂

[@grahamcarver2003]

I 💕 Hacksmith and I 💕 Battle Bots! This was such a fun video! Thank you for letting me enjoy the ride!

[@crazybird199]

I love the idea of 3D printed models of your projects! Please do this for the self-contained lightsaber when it comes out!

[@stumcconnel]

That thing is terrifying, good job!

[@benjaminnevins5211]

Loved watching him run off with the shredder parts lol

[@NightwaveDarkKnight]

Does this mean we will see the "Revenge of Orbitron"? >=3 Your robot is still the underdog after all. I'm wishing you guys good luck for Round 2.

[@heyjustj]

So cool! I’m almost 40 yr old and grew up watching all the different versions Battle Bots. Really cool to witness the evolution of the sport and really curious to see how AI will impact fights going forward. Solid concept for sure while still utilizing human input.

[@biscuit715]

Yeah it'll be interesting to see if it's actually useful. Could just be a gimmick, could be extremely good! I imagine it'll depend on driver skill / ability to manage workload

[@zumbazumba1]

Whats the point of having AI ? Its cheating ,it removes human part from battle bots.Whats next ? Put Ai in a F1 car and remove driver completely ?

[@heyjustj]

@@zumbazumba1 I don’t see it as cheating. It seems like the next evolution of the sport. A huge part of the sport is the programming. Like with drones there are different modes you can fly in and they each have advantages and disadvantages. You can have your drone auto level where the drone basically returns to center when you let go of the sticks and the drone won’t go past a certain tipping point… OR you can fly full acro which means you manually have to bring the drone back to center or it will keep flipping. Pros fly full acro. So there’s going to be advantages and disadvantages to AI and software vs full manual. I’m sure Battle Bots will navigate those things if it becomes completely unbalanced in competition. But I’m here for it!

[@boyeemister5558]

I do not understand what the orbit mode does if the enemy is too close to a wall to orbit around them 😅

[@hacksmith]

You don't use it in that scenario

[@harvmate]

So that bot is basically 2 aftershocks (from UK robot wars) bolted together. Noice

[@sricharandonkada6611]

That's a cool timelapse at 7:25 using the robotic arm!

[@aslanmerioles1218]

based on the one the hits on the engine, the spinner applies about 1.69 kJ of energy in less than a tenth of a second which is crazy

[@jannisboewer638]

Love ur Vidios pls ceep going withe the batelbot siries and can u try make an industrutebal battel bot withe no ruels folowed like the industructabal boxes back then

[@FlameForever]

9:21 Bro used a light saber to heat up the metal 🤣

[@chara-y9q]

this puppy is gonna smack toombstonee right in the jaw

[@run4ever102]

We were in Vegas two weeks ago for your fight ! Congrats guys you were great !!

[@Chiron11685]

I can’t wait for the next protosaber video

[@Bruhnerd69]

yes

[@junebug9267]

Really interested to see how the AI driving will hold up in the arena, especially vs bots like minotaur gyro walking and claw viper which pulls over 2gs in acceleration

[@Roxas13XIII]

My immediate question with the orbit is what happens if an obstacle shows up? How quickly can the bot change direction?

[@zeroinfinity5864]

Good question.

[@nomadchad8243]

That Engine toss was nuts. Its maybe just me but losing at battle bots is the same as winning as long as there is massive destruction. Your last battle was awesome, it was an even match and you caught on fire!!

[@SrNerd]

Why KZbin took so long to send me this EXCELLENT VIDEO?!?!?

[@SparkyGaming212]

13:38 I don’t think robot attacks are covered under that 10 year warranty. 😂😂

[@shawntoadally]

I'm very glad you didn't give up after the first attempt. There's 1000% more value in this second video/attempt than there was in the first. GG guys. And Good luck in the competition! It certainly looks like you're much better prepared for it this time :)

[@mrblack5145]

Seeing that thing toss around washing machines and engine blocks is incredible. I've had to move those things myself, and I can safely say that anything that impacts with enough force to hurl it through the air is dangerous in the extreme. I can't wait to see it in action!

[@CoolMan1_SonicAndOtherStuff]

SUCCESS! Can't wait to see the fight!

[@blubberus3909]

Orbitron has winning potential! Did you put some kind of shock absorbing materials between the armore plates and the chassis?

[@Stuntman707]

Looks like you’ve learnt a lot and made many improvements but that’s what it’s all about. Glad you’re going back better than before rather than giving up.

[@205badger3]

Video editor: How many memes do you want in the video? Hacksmith: YES!

[@OVER-RANNUS]

ORBITRON TO THE FINALE!!!!

[@CarterHurd]

Glad to see you guys getting it dialed in… Want to fight Taco Tuesday next?

[@JosephSchrader5801]

This makes me think of my FRC days. Team 4309 Botsmiths. Our logo was an anvil too except ours has a hammer instead of looking like a Swiss army knife.

[@nuclearsprinkles389]

Funny you say that, two of the members on the team are from FTC 11115, a two brother team. You should definitely go watch some videos of their 2018-2019 robot, it was wicked and put basically every other robot in the ground (metaphorically). I hope to see them crush it here!

[@_The_SCP_Foundation_]

Seeing the upgraded version is so cool. Now I definitely want one

[@penguin5096]

Fun time in Vegas with you guys! - Maker of 'Sharkbait'

[@eroraf8637]

Sharkbait, OO HA HA!

[@thinugaratnayake417]

Yessss lessss gooooooooo, i started to think they gave up, but this is just awsome

[@adrisingh9954]

I am part of a FRC team in Redmond, Washington, and let me say, Battlebots is quite interesting...

[@Eric_Wolfe-Schulte]

Check out Western Allied Robotics - we're fighting 1lb, 3lb, 12lb, and 30lb robots in Monroe WA 2nd week of April!

[@seandinfo]

A lot of FRC alum and mentors at Battlebots.

[@KrakenCasting]

DAGGUM, THAT THING IS SO COOL! I'm sure we'll see more from this little friend😂

[@ElectricWizzz]

Do the weapons on the larger model work? My neighbors dog keeps pooping on my lawn.

[@goldenart1215]

Hopefully you’ll get to rematch roundhouse and completely destroy theirs. Make THEM completely rebuild.

[@nafeeskherani2667]

Can't wait to see the fight

[@hacksmith]

Members get to see the fights early!

[@Freezefire2]

Can you share the project used for the ai/machine learning… i am curious as to what you are using and how it can affect the robot i am creating for FRC

[@cunk1020]

Hacksmith been hitting the zaza in the intro. Sick vid, glad you revisited battlebots!

[@RegularBiscuit]

So glad america still has battlebots! once the british show ended, i thought i'd have to go without robot violence

[@E1i0]

That SISU robocamera timelapse looks so sick!

[@rp8564]

I'll be rooting for Orbitron this year @ BB

[@zackbensink2155]

One big lesson from FRC, Always build a to-scale arena to calibrate your auto.

[@johnmorgan1629]

Lets see you launch the competition into orbit.

[@FaithfulMC]

This is awesome, hope to see you next season

[@welvaardsbuik]

super cool, nice to see the explanation of the changes

[@Nerca_P1]

Also i have a question, what happens when the opponent bot backs into a corner or wall and you have orbit mode on? Cause if you go in for the attack, they can just feed you their weapon

[@hacksmith]

Hence why it's an assist mode, not always n

[@allenroughton]

What is the benefit of having two spinners? Especially if the whole gimmick is that this thing can aim itself? Wouldn't you be way better off with a single, heavier weapon or is there something in the rules that makes that less doable?

[@fransam1945]

Mostly to stand out. Cant really get into the competition to begin with if its just a redesign of a different robot.

[@hacksmith]

Two spinners means you can steer. If you only have one, you flip when steering due to gyro

[@highinquisitorsebaste6785]

O_O Okay, the fact that this actually cut through a CAR ENGINE is just insane!

[@BobT36]

8:45 and that is why you ALWAYS wear eye protection (as he did)

[@FacterinoCommenterino]

Today's Fact: The largest known structure in the universe is the Hercules-Corona Borealis Great Wall, which measures over 10 billion light years across.

[@loen9591]

Nah that’s average

[@TyCook-wu7it]

Well that was random

[@TsarBomba69420]

Mines longer🗿

[@Bruhnerd69]

bit less than me

[@FBI-bm4kx]

When you're early but don't know what to comment

[@KekulaGolijikaye]

I would love to see what obitron's is going to be like over the years

[@hellothere899]

This is the hacksmith I've been missing!

[@eduardreturn7465]

This is a great concept, it's worth putting it back into the fray.

[@illuminum8576]

Battlebots feels like too much fun for a simple concept

[@connie4334]

3 battle bots vs one human with a sledge hammer who’s winning?

[@junebug9267]

i dont care what tool you have. Tombstone will turn you into a fine mist

[@seandinfo]

Just one of the top battlebots will win. A sledge hammer will have very minimal impact on a HW bot. They are also a lot faster than most people can move and kinetic weapons will take the head of that hammer and move it so fast you will be lucky if all that happens is if the handle disembowels you.

[@tbnr_lols559]

The human ovi

[@kalle5548]

@junebug9267 I think a Komatsu D355A would count as a tool? Given it's a bit of an unfair fight, 250 lbs vs 103 000 Ibs

[@andrewnorgrove6487]

The to many cooks analogy comes to mind

[@SebastianWellsTL]

Love it! You guys are one of my favorite channels on KZbin!

[@spaceageGecko]

Glad to see this project is still going strong, been watching it's journey since I heard about the bot being sponsored by warframe.

[@PigVSPerson]

I'm doing vex vrc, and it's a lot of fun, but the issue of what can go wrong will go wrong is so true.

[@DawidGoralczyk]

Your logo looks like phase 1 clone trooper helmet

[@googleyoutubechannel8554]

I like that any simple code is now 'AI'

[@HoosierHacker]

Can't wait!

[@user-wn6bb1ty9u]

Been waiting for a year. For this video. 2 of my best friends from my hometown(central/Nothern Ontario) graduated from London for robotics. I love this channel. Even if you utilize KZbins monetary algorithm. I hope you continue to post and hire great minds for this material. :)

[@ThatBeTheQuestion]

Oh man. I'm on pins and needles for the fight. Good luck, y'all!

[@austink4712]

Hey guys, I play a lot of paintball and have seen a lot of different jerseys. I would love to see you guys do a collab with a company like CRBN to make an actual orbitron jersey.

[@joostfloot5279]

Yess so glad that this series is back!

[@christopherlilja7423]

I legitimately just got done watching the last episode on this after finding you guys.