How BAD Was Josh Rosen Actually?

[@Worthy_NFL]

The funny this is that those 9 players ahead were all pro bowl level ppayers

[@thehalftimeshow]

Stinks to be the one getting the first dud

[@ryukami404]

Looked it up, only 2 players picked ahead of Rosen haven't been named to the Pro Bowl. Sam Darnold, which is likely to change if he keeps playing the way he has so far this year and Mike McGlinchey who seems to be an average O-line player. Rosen definitely missed the mark with that claim

[@texascrimestories]

​@@ryukami404 allen and mayfield

[@ryukami404]

@@texascrimestories Both have been to the Pro Bowl at least once

[@calebk3255]

I remember watching him at ucla and my dad was so excited to have a soon to be “nfl legend” playing for his team. Man did that not happen

[@oldi3Games]

😂😂😂 thats why I dont watch college football

[@WHATTADOO-ge7hm]

I predicted he would stink. He was a play from behind gun slinger. That never works out in the nfl. College is boys. The NFL is men. Huge difference.

[@fullmetalfalk]

He is probably the biggest use case of "Right Player, Right Team, Right Time". The Cardinals were in flux: a defense first-time head coach, a new OC and Oline scheme, and a Bradford injury all contributed to an environment that would hinder any rookie's success. Looking at Baker, Darnold etc, i think he could have been a decent player, maybe a career backup if his landing environment wasn't like developmental quicksand.

[@thehalftimeshow]

I like comments like these that take into context the situation these young QB prospects land in. Thank you fullmetalfalk

[@Greenspectre1]

Baker and Darnold are both having career resurgences so could Rosen have had one as well? It is interesting “what if” question

[@fullmetalfalk]

@ yeah seeing how he did on various practice squads makes me think that a career backup would have been his ceiling. Want form bad situation to bad situation. Arizona -> Miami -> Atlanta. I don’t think he was cockier than any other athlete. You went to believe you are the best.

[@matthewgliatto7339]

I can’t blame him for saying college football is a business, since that is absolutely true.

[@J.S.R.9.]

It’s weird how in the beginning of the video , it’s stated that the cardinals had talent and were good enough to support a young QB . Then later in the video, states that the team around Rosen didn’t help him. It’s starting to see like fans are quick to blame other players on the field instead of QB and coaches

[@Jaelations]

But they really never gave him a chance, both cardinals and dolphins gave up him on one year

[@Love2Musgrave]

if you can't produce then you outta there

[@Zayy13]

they took him for his word, he was so arrogantly confident that he will succeed they said fine get out there and win and when he couldn't they humbled him fast

[@losoj30]

Because he sucked

[@Zayy13]

@@losoj30 no duh

[@joshwest4144]

He had the basically the same roster that Kyler got as a rookie, and Kyler won OROY

[@DialgaMarine3]

As a Ravens fan, I’m so happy all these teams passed up on Lamar.

[@alexanderliu9376]

Good amount of those teams would have ruined him anyways

[@ScottDelleFave]

Why, he can't win in the playoffs?

[@JustinKase3]

@@ScottDelleFavehe just beat the Texans last year in play offs and yall glaze the Steelers for not having a losing season in years to be wild card exits and let’s be honest other then having a top defense Lamar has been the offense so if your not a chiefs bandwagon fan what has your team been doing ?

[@therealkflo..]

​@ScottDelleFave bc the ravens play in the toughest division in football & also have to play both allen , and mahomes every single year

[@ScottDelleFave]

At least we both took someone that wasnt Chosen Rosen. (I'm a Bills fan)

[@kleinkalibar7486]

Its crazy that people in Arizona were screaming to get rid of Kyler after everything he has shown in his first seasons just to enter the QB lottery again. You never know what you get in a QB when you look at all the promising and talented QBs just pretty much disappered from the league even though they supposedly were franchise QBs. Rosen, Wentz, Trey Lance etc etc...

[@Collin275]

So, I can appreciate how much effort goes into making content. That said, I can’t help but offer some constructive criticism: I clicked on the video hoping to actually hear some intelligent analysis on Rosen’s play/style/work ethic/mindset/whatever but as is common for these types of videos, was given a simple history lesson of his career. Unfortunately, I never got any closer to understanding *how* bad Rosen was actually, as the video title states. Anyway, back to Rosen. As a longtime Cards fan, I do feel like the pick was a sound one. He entered a dumpster fire of a team with awful coaching and an OC who was in way over his head. It doesn’t appear that Rosen ever got the right mentorship. Additionally, it also appears that even if he had gotten the right mentorship, he wasn’t in the right mindset to learn from it. The NFL is 100x more cerebral than college, and it doesn’t appear he ever really took the mental part of the game as seriously as he should’ve.

[@micnak3574]

I am dead serious when I say this. The Football god decided to punish Rosen for having been too cocky. Rosen's claim that "9 teams made a mistake" got him god's wrath. The lesson from Rosen is this: Stay humble, young men. You still have so much to learn in the NFL.

[@lordrayden3045]

Yeah…. Sure thing sparky

[@ArchibaldHimothy]

Rosen was simply a Pocket QB who left college way too early, the game was too fast for him to comprehend how bad Arizona’s situation is. He would’ve been the heads up guy for the 2019 class until Kyler fully takes over at OU

[@therealkflo..]

He was supposed to leave the year before, but scouts questioned his maturity ....from what I heard he was a manziel level party animal

[@RiddlerQM]

We made the mistake in drafting you!! I wanted lamar!😭

[@graceresendes5380]

Almost as bad as trading up for Trey Lance

[@johnnydepp4866]

Thanks to Zach Wilson and Brock Purdy, not many people are talking about how stupid this move up it is

[@lordtryforce]

I say the bigger 49ers mistake was drafting Solomon Thomas with #3 pick instead of Mahomes. Not a 9er fan but think Shanahan was trying hard to get Kirk Cousins at the time.

[@johnnydepp4866]

@@lordtryforce Yeah, they could have commit the biggest heist in nfl history with that haul of bears pick if they picked Mahomes, CMC or Lattimore instead of Solomon Thomas. Hell, even Watson and Adams at that time are some solid choices. And for some reason, no one is talking about it because Trubisky is terrible for the bears apart from 1-2 seasons

[@JDP2104]

Maybe he got what he deserved, but I still can't help but feel like he never got a fair chance. Thrown to the wolves by a team without an offensive line and a HC who was lost in the sauce, and then traded into an even worse situation in Miami. His confidence got destroyed when he got crushed after every drop back

[@robertolicon9305]

As a cardinal fan, I really thought we had our qb. They said he was the most pro ready, and the Cardinals had done so well the previous year even though Carson Palmer was hurt. I thought it was a plug and play. Can't blame him alone, but wow was he just plain awful.

[@scottcowan7343]

Rosen's NFL career was over the moment the Cardinals realized they could get Kyler Murray. Every other NFL team saw he wasn't ready, didn't show any remarkable offensive abilities, and weren't willing to give him an extended look as a result. Imagine if he had entered the draft a year before and gone first. We might've been having a much different and possibly much worse conversation somehow. Also, um yeah, I can imagine his whole "nine mistakes" probably contributed to NFL players wanting to make his life on the field a living Hell. Good work. Apparently he's studying law or smth now.

[@WhatAG23]

As a Packers fan, I have to thank Josh Rosen for getting Mike McCarthy fired. He leeched off Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers for over a decade and was one of the reasons Rodgers only has one Super Bowl. It’s one of those things where I remember exactly where I was - at the mall of America. Obviously I was mad about the loss, but was happy that Mike was gone.

[@jaimerodriguez8873]

I hope the cowboys fire him this off-season, his play calling is so predictable.

[@lordrayden3045]

Right….. Keep up the tradition of blaming everyone but Aaron Rodgers for Aron rodgers failures

[@drewsky1967]

i saw a whole highlight reel of dolphins receivers dropping dimes from him. I'm not saying he was a great top 10 QB but he was on two more than terrible teams that had no shot even if they had an elite QB.. he deserved a little more time

[@leo29hornsfan]

He’s also had multiple opportunities with other teams as well and yes I see where you are coming from, but this guy is just straight up ass. The other QB’s in this draft class though? Are having hell of good careers now. Two of them turned it around and two of them are MVP candidates and Super Bowl caliber players.

[@dtna]

Very sad. But going back to school for a Wharton MBA should be good for him.

[@RickNock]

This was a very dark time as a cards fan

[@felixx2381]

Biggest bust ever in cards history is mat lenart let’s get that out ..😂

[@damielleon1020]

The cardinals found out the hard way why the other teams didn't draft him

[@sant748]

Football is like riding a bus, everybody gets on but everybody’s destination is different, some players have a short journey and some have a long journey. You have to know where your stop is and exit accordingly, not everyone’s stop is at the end of the line at an NFL stadium.

[@drygnfyre]

That opening statement reminds me of the infamous "I'm glad I went #1, because no one remembers #2." And #2 happened to be Hall of Famer (NHL) Chris Pronger.

[@TylerG60]

I wouldn't say dazzling college career. He was always hurt and average when he played. Never understood the hype he got. Not surprised things went the way they did.

[@Kinney972]

Idk if he was really bad just on bad teams

[@Nay-kp6uu]

Why everyone hating on Rosen this last year? Oh... as a Cards fan. I understand.

[@timcampo]

He sure wasn’t great but the Cardinals were a trainwreck after Arians left. Keim made some stupid decisions and Kingsbury treated him poorly. As a fan I am happy that they seem to have stabilized now.

[@thehalftimeshow]

Honest and contextual take right here. Thank you Tim.

[@4orkful]

I just want to point out the block Larry Fitzgerald laid at 6:13.

[@ashwinranji8790]

you know it's bad when they immediately took kyler first overall next season

[@bradt.v7140]

Josh Rosen was never really given a chance. Sucks when you go to dysfunctional teams giving up 9n you after 1 year. Look at Sam Darnold, teams were moving on from him quick. Now he taking the vikings to the playoffs.

[@toolrammsteindeftones]

I had faith when we got him. But it faded quick.

[@jajabinks4733]

They didn’t do a good job of surrounding him with talent

[@elelias5627]

I’m one of those suckers that believed!! I still have his jersey 😑😑

[@Valley_Boyz01]

Cards fan here I genuinely hope he’s at Kmart rotting but he also gave us K1 🙏🏼

[@MStafford-lr9le]

My personal favorite is the Jets wasting a fairly high (second round) pick on a QB who never played a regular season snap.

[@M3Vader]

I remember when some called him Rosen “The Choosen One” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@anthonymaslow798]

Chosen* ffs. Rosen the Chosen One. I choose the right spelling. You chose the wrong spelling.

[@M3Vader]

@ auto correct thanks. I can respect the joke tho

[@primetime5165]

It was the Rosen One 😭😭

[@DanTheMeek]

A bust? Yes. One of the worst bust of all time? Not even remotely. As he famously noted, nine players were taken ahead of him, 3 of those QBs. I need to emphasize that last point again, per the 9 teams who drafted prior to him, he was not even considered a top 3 QB in his draft class before he ever took an NFL snap. To be even in the conversation for an all time bust I feel like you've gotta be taken at least top 3, MAYBE top 5. By pick 10, historically, most players taken end up being busts, so him being a bust was already more likely then him being a serviceable starter, let alone a franchise QB. Its particularly common for "high value" positions like QB, because a "can't miss" safety might fall to 10 due to their position, but if your a near sure thing at a high value position, you just don't fall that far.

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Nope, one of the biggest busts of ALL TIME

[@anthonymaslow798]

​@@jarlwhiterun7478great argument, you dim-wit.

[@Gucciha]

Cards could’ve drafted Lamar Jackson , which is who I wanted them to draft. Kind of worked out we drafter Kyler Murray one year later tho

[@thehalftimeshow]

Lamar would've been a fire in the desert

[@fabiancastaneda3878]

He's a playoff choker ​@@thehalftimeshow

[@aznbro5559]

As a cards fan this was such a bad pick 🤦

[@dcc70]

There were many who were higher drafted busts than Rosen: Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Tony Mandarich...

[@jeremynitta1449]

As someone who loves the NFL draft, I will die on my hill that Rosen was the second best QB in the class behind Baker. It’s not a good take but I’ll die on my hill that if Rosen had gone to a better situation, literally any situation, he would still be in the league

[@venusrose9890]

It was over the instant that he struggled to read defenses. His mind was his only potentially special trait.

[@FlameWingMan]

​@venusrose9890 what rookie QB isn't gonna struggle to read defenses ??

[@JM-md4ri]

That’s fine. We need people with wrong opinions too

[@thehalftimeshow]

Bold

[@RichGannon12]

Sounds like you have a man crush on Josh Rosen 🤣

[@friedrice2912]

How the heck is this documentary gonna overlook how the Cardinals got fleeced by $am Bradford????? Dude lost three straight and got injured to put Rosen in a horrible position for even a seasoned pro bowler to overcome.

[@fAnaticZpodcast]

Partially his attitude and the BS management in Arizona was to blame for Rosen flopping. The whole Wilks era was an eyesore and in a perfect world Josh would have gotten another chance or a better start. He’s smart as hell and is in business school so he’s still making more bank than any of us.

[@tracymiscellaneous60]

Please make a video on Dak Prescott

[@martinsolano6695]

I wonder how he would have played under Arians, if he had stayed another year.

[@justjoshin6180]

what a bust

[@thehalftimeshow]

truly

[@GILx87]

You know you’re cooked when you get assigned a jersey number greater than 15 as a QB

[@JBar]

Could Sam Darnold's increased success in Minnesota convince teams to give Rosen another shot?

[@speedscampi5217]

IMO no because Darnold at least had flashes of mediocrity. I think a QB has to at least be in the tier to be a bridge QB in order to get a revival like Mayfield or Darnold. Rosen straight up just looked trash

[@leo29hornsfan]

Rosen had multiple opportunities with different teams and he’s just straight up ass. The other 3 mistakes ahead of him two of them absolutely rejuvenated their careers and are getting a huge contract extension for one of them and the other got a nice one as well and the other mistake is now on the verge of being an MVP winner and possibly a Super Bowl bound QB. The other non mistake is a two time MVP. Yeah Josh Rosen is straight up dog shit.

[@rockinvida1960]

The video should be titled “How Unlucky Was Josh Rosen?”

[@Peopleequilshit1997]

I remember some but not all Bills fans wanted him over Allen. Thank fuck that didn't happen oh my that would have been painful.

[@leo29hornsfan]

I remember that day like yesterday. I was at a bar in Buffalo and I remember having to take a piss and when I came back from the bathroom I looked up on the tv and the bills made a trade and I knew it was for a QB and when I heard Josh I was like please not Rosen and they said Allen and half of the bar was like WTF 🤬 and I was like thank you 🙏 Jesus that clown is gonna be a bust and Allen is gonna get his form and be a star and ohh boy did Chosen Rosen become a flop way sooner then what I expected. Now the city of Buffalo kisses Josh Allen’s ass and worship the ground that he walks on.

[@dustinstella6656]

I bet none of his teammates attended his birthday party in college.

[@LordVader066]

Josh Rosen reincarnated and became Caleb Williams

[@kevinc6763]

Steve Keim is....was...proof that literally anyone can be a GM in the NFL. Nothing about that guys educational background or work history suggested he should run a team. ANYONE that heard him speak knew immediately that he was off...had low IQ or was just, not very bright. Watch hard knocks on HBO and tell me he had any competency to run a team. Unbelievable.

[@chriscraig70able]

Kelly Stouffer, a bigger bust, as a Cardinals QB

[@impossivel2006]

But Aaron Rodgers said he was good....what happened?

[@thehalftimeshow]

lol

[@fabiancastaneda3878]

Well, he has the same amount of rings as Lamar Jackson

[@thehalftimeshow]

Ooooooooof

[@scuzzlebutt3048]

He trash and so are you L Jackson in every universe will always be better than

[@pigdroppings]

Jackson....6 years....only 2 playoff wins

[@dannyphan1352]

Rosen the Fn chosen

[@jamesxm4240]

Very Bad, Never improved in College

[@JasonJanczak-k6v]

FUCLA. Fight On.

[@dkshadow23]

Yo bro was horrible at his job why did we go up 5 picks when the next 5 didn’t even pick a qb I’m sick

[@doe22us]

Oh men i forgot about this dude lol..

[@michaelybarra8674]

Caleb Williams will be the next flop

[@thehalftimeshow]

You really think so?

[@SteveBrewer-m7p]

At 2:30 bro showed a terrible pass😂

[@MrJwestman]

Had to double take this as well 😂😂😂

[@therealkflo..]

"There were 9 mistakes made ahead of me " whole time you are the mistake 😂

[@leo29hornsfan]

The only good mistake to be is if you’re at a party and the girls get so shit faced that they wake up the next day and they’re like ahh 😱 I was so drunk last night I couldn’t believe that I slept with that guy. If you’re that mistake then that’s a good thing. Not the Josh Rosen mistake.

[@spencer9819]

Can somebody explain how him saying college football is a business is a red flag?

[@thehalftimeshow]

At the time it wasn’t like NIL. Also he thought he was a philosopher rather than a QB.

[@bigbearkat2010]

@@thehalftimeshow hell people still complain about NIL deals being a thing that exists

[@anthonymaslow798]

It isn't a red flag, most of these morons just don't like being told the truth.

[@alexgranillo758]

Nope!! I still say cryin Ryan leaf is still the worst bust

[@leo29hornsfan]

Jamarcus Russell hands down. Ryan Leaf is definitely up there but Russell was god awful. He was a lazy pile of shit who literally robbed the raiders organization. Leaf was just immature and took it for granted and years later owned up to his mistakes.

[@ej1366]

Josh was bad like an NFL ref...lol..

[@cliffordyamasaki3899]

His only problem:rich and soft,but biggest bust?not even close jamarcus!

[@Jeff-s1w8l]

Just another Bust

[@TrueEnlightment2024]

He was Brady like. He just didn’t get the chance to develop

[@Cowboysprodz69]

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[@tannerjensen3896]

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[@craighanson-rc1md]

even crapernick was better that's how bad....

[@gunner_mike]

no ones ever said "rise up red sea"

[@cblack3]

not true

[@sunnyjaylenyengthao1127]

This dude trash

[@jimboslice303]

Josh rosen was not good but I feel like we should kinda ease off him because there are far bigger qb draft bust than him

[@thomasspengler9044]

There’s definitely worse busts than him, but he’ll never live it down because he said there were nine mistakes drafted ahead of him. People remember Ryan leaf and Jamarcus Russell because of the stories around him. But nobody talks about Matt leinart because there’s no interesting story surrounding him

[@thehalftimeshow]

well said

[@thepalerider]

Nah that dude didn’t get a fair shake. They wanted a dei pick.

[@thehalftimeshow]

He he he

[@Dimsum-b9d]

Hi

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[@Dimsum-b9d]

@ can u do a vid abt Xavier worthy