Bluesound Node 2i network player/bridge

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The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel

6 жыл бұрын

Bluesound introduced a new series of network players and looking at them I thought they were pulling my leg for they look identical to the previous models. And then the web buzzed about drastic sound improvements. Time for a review.
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@SamB-fv6su
@SamB-fv6su 5 жыл бұрын
Very good review Hans. You are an intelligent and knowledgeable gentleman and I appreciate your insights.
@oliverjosshvac2101
@oliverjosshvac2101 3 жыл бұрын
Upgraded from a Sonos connect to the Bluesound Node 2i. Its a step up in sound quality that everyone would hear. Now I want to experiment with DAC's. What price range for a external DAC would you consider Hans ( I allready have a Schit Bifrost on my mind)? Setup is a Unison tube amp with Cabasse Bora speakers. Very good content here. Another thumbs up.
@richarddegannes2928
@richarddegannes2928 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Hans, Please advise if I will hear anything significantly different between a Bluesound Node2i and PS Audio DirectSteam DAC streamer. THE PS Audio is 10 times the price of the Node 2i. Thanks in advance.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I can't say. First I have not reviewed the PS Audio. Second I can't tell how well your hearing is. And third I don't know how good your stereo is. I am quite sure I will hear a clear difference....
@basvandesteeg796
@basvandesteeg796 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, Thanks for your reviews! May I ask you a question? I want to upgrade my Node 2i and see two options: 1. keep using internal DAC and install an aftermarket upgrade PSU intertace + better PSU (Allo Nirvana low noise or Audiophonics, Shanti or Sbooster linear). Investment 200-400 euro's depending on PSU. 2. Invest in external DAC. The SMSL Sanskrit MKII with the on board AK4493 seems to be an upgrade. For the Sanskrit a low noise PSU like Allo Nirvana or iFi should be sufficient. Investment around 200 euro. What do you think makes more sense? Thanks for helping. Bas
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have experience with either so I can’t say
@basvandesteeg796
@basvandesteeg796 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thanks anyway
@4252applebee
@4252applebee 5 жыл бұрын
Hans , how would you judge the node 2i to the Cambridge CNX V2 in one of your previous video's you said that the CNX V2 sound sounds better if you have a higher quality Stereo system ( which I do -audiophile -4X plus + the figure that you mentioned in your video) I find the quality of the node 2i as very good using my PS Audio DirectStream DAC , as I only want a streamer I am also getting a CNX V2 to compare but would love to hear your thoughts on it . I am also thinking about an InnOus zen 3 also but I don't RIP CD but listen to HiREZ classical on Quboz & Tidal basically need a good quality streamer -You thoughts -! thanks
@oscarsilva7122
@oscarsilva7122 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great review. I have a question: in your opinion, is the price justified? I mean, the Chromecast audio has similar features and is considerably cheaper. Thanks again.
@michel-vincentleriche3326
@michel-vincentleriche3326 5 жыл бұрын
Works perfectly with my Devialet's Dialog + pair of Phantoms speakers. Cured the issues I had with the Dialog inability to connect reliably to Qobuz.
@sjors01
@sjors01 Жыл бұрын
Primare i25 prism + Bluesound node N130, was about to return the Node n130. the sound became restless and my ears tired while listening. Node 2 just sounded more relaxed. The problem was that Gain was set higher than 0. +4. for the 3 inputs on the Primare i25 prism. reset it to 0, what a relief that is.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@djphat1736
@djphat1736 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently debating this unit. I need a Streaming/DAC that is small and of high quality. Has to handle MQA full decode/folding. I don't need it to have a screen or display of any kind. Use through the phone is fine, even prefered. If it has a web browser function or client app, even better. How would rate this up against others in this price range? Thank you.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
See the review (it's in my reference setup 2)
@jimkyle571
@jimkyle571 3 жыл бұрын
Would an unpowered SSD work for playing flac files via the USB port?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
USB should be able to deliver 500 mA at 5 volts, which is 2.5 watts. So if the SSD consumes no more than 2.5 watts, you're safe on any network player.
@grenlurh
@grenlurh 5 жыл бұрын
Looks very good, is it as good as the Auralic Aries Mini? The mini has the improved power supply available so I would expect with this for the Mini to be the better option?
@Luca84v
@Luca84v 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Node 2 do you suggest an update for the Node 2i or the difference will be really minimal?!
@MrComand3r
@MrComand3r 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Hans, Thank you from America for these excellent reviews. Currently selling in America is the Prisma NP5. I’m very interested in learning in how it’s sound characteristics compare to other equipment in its price range. Hope if possible to see you thoughts and review on these exciting new product. Cheers and Thank You
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I have tried to get a Prisma NP5 on loan. No success yet.
@manfred
@manfred 3 жыл бұрын
I like listening to your report, very good info!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@jakejakejakejakejakejake
@jakejakejakejakejakejake 5 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews, bro! X
@huubme
@huubme 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, since this bluesound 2i it is possible to connect a wireless headphone. But i have (maybe a stupid) question. Why should i connect to the bluesound rather than directly to my smartphone (apple). Does sound significant improve connecting to de BS. Pls can you explain??
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
believe I o not but there are people that do not sue their smartphone for music😮. Whether the Bluesound sounds better, I don't know. I don't like to listen to headphones.
@MarcoLeone94
@MarcoLeone94 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, i have a question. Wich streamer is better with a pre amp rotel, classè ca 2300 and a pair of b&w 685? Node 2i, cambridge audio cxn v2 or a marantz nd 8006?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Please watch my reviews, I can's say more than I have said in the videos.
@anthony0803
@anthony0803 5 жыл бұрын
So in your opinion what sounds better this or the project prebox? I won’t be using this with Bluetooth and it will be hardwired all the time. Just looking for the better sound quality.
@cynthiarot1364
@cynthiarot1364 4 жыл бұрын
Beste Hans, Wij hebben de Bluesound Node oa gekoppeld aan onze Sony tv, alleen het inleren van de afstandbediening lukt niet volledig. Alleen de power knopt kan ingeleerd worden. Enig idee hoe de afstandbediening (is infrarood) verder in te leren? Bijvoorkeur de volume knop (nu gaat het wijzigen van zender via de afstandbediening en het volume via de app van Bluesound.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I really don't have time to do support. But do contact Bluesound at support.bluos.net/hc/en-us
@klaasfaak7055
@klaasfaak7055 5 жыл бұрын
Beste Hans, Is het streaming deel beter/net zo goed als de Allo DigiOne Signature. Ben namelijk in beiden geïnteresseerd. De bedoeling is om de dac van de Cambridge Audio Edge A te gebruiken.
@francisfrancis4219
@francisfrancis4219 5 жыл бұрын
Can the node2 and/or 2i have the wireless and BT switched on & off independently? For example, the WCX-50 has a hard switch, but maybe there is a soft switch in BlueOS?
@slam854
@slam854 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I posted here, but don't see my entry. Yesterday I purchased a Node 2 and then immediately stumbled upon your informative review here. Newbies making not the best choices. My leaning is toward the Node 2i just for its dual band WiFi and bluetooth linking. Kick me in the Butt, please.
@slam854
@slam854 5 жыл бұрын
The Node 2 is discontinued so the unit I will be receiving is the 2i for which I am happy. My audio store is very slow on delivering the product but I wanted to support a local merchant over a large chain source. Hoorah for the little guys.
@petervanderham4725
@petervanderham4725 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Hans, as usual. Would this be a decent upgrade over a Chromecast Audio?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I think so!
@ruudstet3186
@ruudstet3186 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Hans, Nothing tot do with the node but a tip from a regular viewer. The usb pro audio app has launched a mqa core decoder plugin. Perhaps something for you to look into somewhere in the future. A basic bitperfect USB streamer with mqa for around €10 in the smartphone you already own. I'm going tot give it a go.
@andreaslergard
@andreaslergard 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone got any tips on dacs that can handle MQA over coaxial? As the node 2i has no usb output I’ve found this somewhat limiting in my research for a new full MQA dac.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Here you find the MQA DAC's I have reviewed: kzbin.info/aero/PLMbsmejHnP8FossVVgpLsSNOzHE4oCkUj
@afsinismailmerdan4245
@afsinismailmerdan4245 4 жыл бұрын
Is Node2i gives the decoded mqa data from the digital outputs like the lumin u1 mini or it gives mqa data with only the analog outputs? Thanks!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
If you play an MQA file that contains a signal with a 88.2 or 96 kHz sampling rate or higher, the digital output will give you the 'first unfold' at 88.2 or 96 kHz. If you connect a DAC that can render MQA files to the Node2i's digital output, the signal will get rendered to the original sampling rate, up to even 384 kHz. Watch my video kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3a6hpynjJqbma8
@afsinismailmerdan4245
@afsinismailmerdan4245 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you very much!
@joseantoniosuarez5753
@joseantoniosuarez5753 4 жыл бұрын
What is a "10+ stereo" he mentioned? is he talking about an expensive stereo? Sorry I don't understand the jargon.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
It's no jargon, I'm afraid. I said plus 10k stereo, meaning a stereo costing over 10,000 euros.
@joseantoniosuarez5753
@joseantoniosuarez5753 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks Hans. I Appreciate your inmense job.
@BWWGL9
@BWWGL9 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really enjoy your reviews. Please tell me what is the BEST type of Connection from my Preamp to the Node 2i ? ( Optical, Coax, or ?) Any info is appreciated. Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
That depends on the preamp
@BWWGL9
@BWWGL9 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I have IOTAXV SA3, integrated amp.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I didn’t review that amp so I can’t say
@marigold165
@marigold165 5 жыл бұрын
Hans, Can you tell me if you can set the blue sound to downsample the files to 16 bit 44.1 for all files in the Bluesound use app? I have DSD and Hi Res files in my library but my dac can only handle Redbook files. It would be nice to play all files. Thx
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Bluesound doesn’t do downsampling and doesn’t play DSD
@serloinoflamm1119
@serloinoflamm1119 6 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual. I was reading on your website your article on upsampling vs over sampling and wondered what you thought of the new Chord MScaler? It would be great if you did a review - if not on the actual product, then on the technical side of what such a product might do and if such a product might be worth investing in for those of us who play red book CD quality music via an external DAC? Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
I have not reviewed the Scaler and I probably won't since I have set a limit of € 2000 for equipment I will review.
@brillcat99
@brillcat99 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Hans, do the Node 2 and 2i have the same graphic user interface? I am thinking a used Node 2 would be a good value as my first network streamer because I already own a Pro-Ject PreBox S2 Digital (based on your review). I don't need dual-band WiFi or the multi-room functionality of AirPlay2 so the remaining question seems to be the GUI. Your comment is much appreciated.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
It’s the same software and thus the same gui
@brillcat99
@brillcat99 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you Hans.
@jamesturner9858
@jamesturner9858 4 жыл бұрын
What’s a Roon end point? And do you get the best sound from the rca port or from the digital ports. Is this considered a high end streamer
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I have covered this in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5jSiaODe92ca8k
@tpacalypse
@tpacalypse 5 жыл бұрын
Do you still recommend the Node 2 over the 2i for a lower price? Someone has it for under 300 usd. Not sure if the extra features is worth getting the 2i instead.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Sound wise there is little - if any - difference. So it is a matter of needing 5 GHz wifi, bi-directional Bluetooth and/or Airplay 2.
@tpacalypse
@tpacalypse 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Hans, what 5 GHz means over the 2.4 GHz? Does it mean better connection or sound? I'm planning on using a wired connection anyways on the NODE 2.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
@@tpacalypse I extensively explain that in the video.
@JonPickles
@JonPickles 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one great review I just bought this player and it’s excellent!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@totallymorpheus
@totallymorpheus 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear more about the sound differences between the 2 and the 2i - in which areas is the 2i stronger?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Please watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6rOnK2uitingpY
@cablebrain9691
@cablebrain9691 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel That was a complete non-response to Ian's question, Hans. I was very disappointed that you sent him to view a video that in no way answered it.
@lapetitemortbis
@lapetitemortbis 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the great review. Any idea how it compares to limetree network which is almost twice the price and don’t have as many features like MQA etc. But ultimately the most important thing is the sound. Any feedback would be much appreciated
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You find the lifetree review here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3eugIuKesihqq8
@lapetitemortbis
@lapetitemortbis 4 жыл бұрын
The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel yes. Thank you very much for your reply. I am looking at limetree network and not bridge. Did you get a chance to demo network? And do you think it is worth to pay the extra and get limetree instead of bluesound?
@MrTopsy888
@MrTopsy888 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for interesting review. Can the app control treble and bass in real time, while streaming Tidal or any source?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is a tone control.
@MrTopsy888
@MrTopsy888 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you Sir. I'm gonna buy one and use with Roksan K3.
@jpgsf1978
@jpgsf1978 3 жыл бұрын
Great work Hans !
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@frankhunker4565
@frankhunker4565 4 жыл бұрын
Hans, thanks for ayour great work. Would you think the node 2i of its digital out sounds better than my mac book pro via optical out into my Naim Audio DAC (the big one)?? Thanks in advance, Frank.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hands down, but I would even prefer a network bridge like those by SOtM and Sonore if my DAC would have a USB Audio Class 2 input. Watch my recent video for it covers this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWqoo5ilqad_bMU
@TheRajMirage
@TheRajMirage 5 жыл бұрын
Hans, Excellent review with relevant details. Thanks. I just ordered one. But I have a question for which I don't have an answer yet. Can i connect the USB-A connector at the back to computer and use the node 2i as a DAC? The user manual says that the USB-A is meant to interface with music storage media.
@tomastomasek1401
@tomastomasek1401 4 жыл бұрын
No
@jamesturner9858
@jamesturner9858 5 жыл бұрын
Are all the outputs in the rear of this unit capable of Hi-Res Audio.
@khaledzurikat7190
@khaledzurikat7190 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, can we then say that if we use this with Roon then the Node 2i will not make a difference from Node 2? ( the only applicable is the 5Ghz)
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
correct
@khaledzurikat7190
@khaledzurikat7190 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Hans. I read on Roon forum that the Bluesound was not syncing properly with Roon (post was in Nov 2018). Any idea if this has been fixed yet ? I am not part of Roon community yet to ask questions (I am yet to purchase Roon)
@FirstLast-gs8tt
@FirstLast-gs8tt 5 жыл бұрын
I have a GUSTARD X20PRO DAC. Would I be able to take advantage of this player and my DAC without losing the MQA capability? How do I wire it? or is the internal DAC of this streamer superior to the GUSTARD X20PRO? Thanks!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know. Ik have no experience with the Gustard.
@catified2081
@catified2081 6 жыл бұрын
I have the node2 and really enjoy it, however would buying a separate Dac help improve the sound quality? I was thinking of maybe something from Schiit audio.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
You can improve the sound by using an external DAC but you do loose the MQA rendering unless you buy an MQA DAC. And to get a real improvement you might want to spend the same amount on the DAC as the price of the Node 2. But spending twice the price of the Node 2 might be over the top. I can't say if Schiit is a good choice since I have not reviewed them.
@RedTTHayo
@RedTTHayo 6 жыл бұрын
I own the Node2 and i own a schiit modi multibit DAC (almost all my gear is Schiit). I did some casual listening w/ the preamp connected to the Schiit DAC and also connected the preamp to Node2 directly. I found it hard to detect differences. Maybe i should do a better hearing test and try harder. But at least it indicates there is not much to be gained. (could do a better test if needed)
@chriss881000
@chriss881000 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone plz tell me the difference between different music streamers? Not app function and supports, but quality wise. Any reason choosing a 5.000$ streamer compared to a 500$ streamer) (in sound quality) and forget the built in dac, without the dac, if we use a seperated one
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
That's simple: the sound quality is better. Provided the rest of your stereo is able to maintain that quality.
@chriss881000
@chriss881000 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank u for the answer. But that answer could a salesman have given me, who tried to sell me expensive stuff😉 but what component in the music streamer makes the real difference without the dac?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that you want a simple answer but a streamer's audio quality depends on many factors like the Ethernet receiver - which is normally is a chip, the PCB design (which costs a lot of time to do really good), the clock crystals, the DAC chip, the I/V conversion, the housing (to reduce microphony) and so on. So it's not a single component, it's the total design. Like with a car the stiffness of the body, the suspension layout, the engine, the tires and so on make it a good or better car.
@chriss881000
@chriss881000 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thats the answer i wanted, not just the "it cost more, so it sounds better" thank you very much for the answer 🙂
@julesbarry2081
@julesbarry2081 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, can the 2i accept 2 subwoofers if an RCA Splitter is used? Cheers....
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You want the input impedance of the two subs together to be about 10 times or higher that the output impedance of the sub-out in the Node. Problem is that the output impedance of the Node is not specified and the same could be the case for your subs. The easiest way is just try it. Nothing will get broken (if the equipment functions as advertised).
@Hawk999
@Hawk999 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Hans. And a good use of graphics. 👍🏻
@kgwmail
@kgwmail 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Question, I have a number of Sonos Connects - for my main system I use a digital output into a Schitt DAC. I have also just started to evaluate Roon to run everything. For sound quality does it matter if I am using a Sonos given the D/A conversion is occurring somewhere else? If I replaced the Sonos with the Node 2i but continued to use the same DAC would it make a difference? I have the Sonos hardwired so there are no obvious problems like drop outs. Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t offered the possibility to review Schiit products so I can’t say
@kgwmail
@kgwmail 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Is there any reason to think changing just the unit that does the streaming (for me Sonos) but not the one doing the D/A conversion would make a difference?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
It of course depends on the quality of the DAC and the rest of your equipment but a Sonos isn't hard to beat, also when you use the digital output. See my reviews of networked audio adaptors: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIm1mmyrqbN1opY
@magnuswoo
@magnuswoo 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. If you use the bluesound node 2I jst as a streamer, and use a external dac. How did this sound in your reference settup? Is it far away from the aurelic aries g1-g2? I know ther is a huge price diference, but is it a significant diference in sound quolity?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
There is a huge difference. Why else would I have bought the Aries G2?
@magnuswoo
@magnuswoo 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel ok thanks,
@Marco-oo7bk
@Marco-oo7bk 4 жыл бұрын
Besides the WAF, we now have the finance department approval factor!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
It was always there but I now dear to acknowledge it😊
@MrRonnmaui
@MrRonnmaui 5 жыл бұрын
I purchased the Nodi 2i based on reviews like this one about 30 days ago and so far I have mixed feelings. I think the sound is VERY impressive, but I have low internet speed of 4Mbps to 6Mbps. So, this is where I am confused because tech support swears it should run my Amazon Prime music at 2Mbps and I am getting numerous "Stream Connection Timed Out" notices and the music just stops? This has been happening every 5 songs or so? Now, I have been in touch with tech support plenty and forwarding the internal logs to get to the bottom of the issue. I have tried resetting my modem IP as suggested to a number of others, but nothing seems to work. Now, I can stream Netflix or any movie service without issue and stream Amazon Music with their App without issue, so why is the Nodi 2i BluOs so sensitive to internet speed or is there something else causing this? Any help out there?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
The quality of your internet connection is never constant. So there always need to be some reserve. You can test your internet speed at www.speedtest.net.
@audiorick841
@audiorick841 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the Node 2i. No wireless issues whatsoever streaming highest possible bitrate on Tidal or my NAS. Rock solid.
@arie8571
@arie8571 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with a low speed connection is that latency starts to come in, the communication that comes with your internet connection can't cope with the audio stream.
@macmac8122
@macmac8122 5 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the new Pulse Soundbar 2i? Is the streaming module equal in quality?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t review the soundbar so I can’t say
@francisfrancis4219
@francisfrancis4219 5 жыл бұрын
Around about a minute in you mistakenly said up to 32bit audio format is supported, not the actual 24bit capability.
@ruudstet3186
@ruudstet3186 6 жыл бұрын
Hans, I agree on your take on the sound quality. I own both a node 2 and a chord Poly/mojo combination. The latter is the clear winner on detail and accurate reproduction of voices and instruments compared to the node. But the node does mqa and offers fatigue-free listening that gives it it's own place in my system. A question. Could you consider a video on mqa rendering? Listening tot mqa files through the analog out (=full mqa) of the node 2 gives a coherence between instruments that is somewhat lacking when using the node for decoding and the Mojo as a dac (toslink in). The Mojo doesn't seem it's usual brilliant self. The individual instruments and voices sound great and better than through the node's analog out. But the coherence of the orchestra is lacking. Same with the tidal desktop app for decoding and the Mojo connected over USB. Any thoughts?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
About all I know about MQA can be seen in this playlist:kzbin.info/aero/PLMbsmejHnP8EPHNgxSxrVvQi7-dW7gm9o. The Mojo is relatively sensitive to sources. In contrast to what the designer of the FPS's, Rob Watts, states the Mojo does not cure jitter and the digital output of the Node - although fair for its money - is not free of jitter.
@ruudstet3186
@ruudstet3186 6 жыл бұрын
@@eug3nius not in my experience. Pcm sounds coherent. Tidal offers plenty of albums where PCM and mqa are both offered. But mqa offers so much more in detail and relaxed naturalness that pcm is'nt the preferred source for me anymore. And as a matter of factor, neither is 'normal' high res....
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. It is also possible that there are devil's messages encoded in music....
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
What DAC do you have
@ruudstet3186
@ruudstet3186 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Both a chord mojo and a ps audio nu wave were used. Both through Audioquest vodka optical interlink. Sources were the node 2 and a laptop without USB 'decrappifiers' and with chord's standard USB cable (Mojo) and Audioquest forest USB (PS audio). Nothing fancy, but it did raise the mentioned question. Full mqa came from the node 2 and a meridian explorer2.
@JeremeU2
@JeremeU2 4 жыл бұрын
I just have new node 2i, it soud very nice, but i found one little issue. When i plug headphones to front 3.5 jack, there is some little buzzing sound on background (it not appear when i put headphones to my amplifier that connected to node by RCA). Have anyone same experience?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
It should not do that, for as far as I can see. But I have very little headphone knowledge. Check with your dealer or local representative of NAD.
@francisfrancis4219
@francisfrancis4219 5 жыл бұрын
When buying used, how can versions 2 and 2i be distinguished from each other visually externally?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
there is very little difference between the two visually. The Node 2 has a slightly velvety feel that the 2i doesn't have and the 2i is about 1 mil smaller. The only visual clue is the label at the bottom. It clearly states the model number twice, although in small, low contrast print.
@MrJoep12
@MrJoep12 5 жыл бұрын
Beste Hans. Bij gebruik van een externe dac deze vraag: Zal ik geluidstechnisch verschil merken tussen de Node2 en de Node2i?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Ik hen het niet Getest maar het zou me verbazen.
@MrJoep12
@MrJoep12 5 жыл бұрын
met dank!@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@homerjones3291
@homerjones3291 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any experience between the node 2 and 2i as strictly streamers? Any difference in sound quality that you feel you’ve heard? Dion’t care about the DAC, Bluetooth, Apple, MQA functions- just the streamer. I’ve seen one review from a person who said there was no difference. I have the 2 and I think it’s great as a streamer-only option, better than through my laptop and Audrivana.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 3 жыл бұрын
See my review of the 2i: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnq6nJiOhc-pr9k
@homerjones3291
@homerjones3291 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Yes, I’ve watched this review quite a few times, but in comparison you used the analog outputs of both, which means you used the DACs which are said to be not as good as many external DACs. So I didn’t see a direct streamer-to-streamer comparison - if there was, I’m afraid I’m missing it.
@homerjones3291
@homerjones3291 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, I read down the comments and you said that there’s little difference in sound. So I’ll take that as an answer.
@audiorick841
@audiorick841 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans, I have two Node 2i and very satisfied. Thanks for the great review. I am thinking of buying a used Node 2 to use for my backyard setup with Roon and I would like My guests to use Bluetooth. I know you mentioned that the Bluetooth module got an update, I do not need by-directional or the a PTX but do you think the updated Bluetooth module of the 2i has a larger range? For my backyard O wonder if the Node 2 has less BT range. Thanks!
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I expect the range didn’t change.
@audiorick841
@audiorick841 4 жыл бұрын
The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel Thank you for your valued advice.
@Teamdriver25
@Teamdriver25 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans can you give some advise regarding streamer to chord mojo as dac and my budget is around 400 to 500 usd. Right now allo digione signature is only in my list.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You find all streamers I have reviewed here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGWphmSqpr-Xm7c
@nikitakorovin6498
@nikitakorovin6498 4 жыл бұрын
Hans, thank you very much for great amount of useful information. I would appreciate your advice - i run roon core on intel nuc with roon rock installed and ec pi2d integrated amplifier's da converter connected to nuc via a-b usb cable. My question is there a risk to get lower sound quality in case if i will use bluesound node2 (i) as roon endpoint connected to roon core and analogue input of my amplifier. In other words i want to benefit from roon ready capability of bluesound, but i'm afraid that its dac is much worse than dac of my ec pi-2d amplifier (cs 4398)..
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know your amp but even if it does a better job doing the D/A-conversion, my guess would be that using the Bluesound as streamer will sound a lot better than a USB connection directly to your amp.
@nikitakorovin6498
@nikitakorovin6498 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel thank you! Couple of additional questiond if you do not mind - i also consider cocktail audio 15d as an alternative, its dac/streamer capability is in the same league as node2i or higher ? Is there an option, speaking about these both units, to bypass their volume control and let amplifier remote control be the only way to adjust volume? Thank you very much in advance?
@nikitakorovin6498
@nikitakorovin6498 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel using bluesound as a streamer through amplifiers dac won't allow to render dsd and mqa.. The question is, what will you choose - using the better but not mqa dsd capable DAC in amplifier connected digitally to node2i or ca15d or worse node2i or ca15d DAC with dsd and mqa support connected to amp via rca?
@Gren4te
@Gren4te 4 жыл бұрын
Sooo Hans. Just so you know. The reason you might be getting wifi issues is probably because you have some weird wifi setup in you list (don’t know if it is yours or a neighbour). Those WIFI boven en beneden AP’s are not using roaming which means that edvices will be having a hard time reconnecting whenever you go down- or upstairs. I see a same pattern with HBz and HBz2 AP’s. If you (or your neighbour) need help setting them up better i can help you out through DM because that will fix a lot of interference.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I have no Wifi problems, I'm not sure about the neighbour ....
@billybastar4022
@billybastar4022 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a good review. What would recommend to provide raw music files to this device? Perhaps a connected SSD? Also, I own the Node2, are these now Roon end points?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I would use a normal USB drive that has its own power supply. There is no need for high speed. The speed of a normal drive is sufficient for more than ten audio streams. And yes, The Node 2 got an update over 2 years ago that makes it a Roon Endpoint.
@billybastar4022
@billybastar4022 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Do you think it worth upgrading to the 2i?
@francisfrancis4219
@francisfrancis4219 5 жыл бұрын
Where exactly is the front panel IR receiver?
@iansharp1171
@iansharp1171 6 жыл бұрын
Great features, but it's a bit of a shame they did not put more attention into improvements into the audio quality.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
I find it sounds great for the money.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
@@Smood47 Are you serious? did you watch the reviews? For there is not much more to add....
@ClassifiedBrief
@ClassifiedBrief 6 жыл бұрын
was hoping soon you could do a video on the New SOtM sNH-10G. Please make sure you compare it very critically to the Cisco WS-C2960-8TC-L.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
The SOtM is not yet available and I don't own the Cisco you mention
@ClassifiedBrief
@ClassifiedBrief 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel in another response I read you stared you had a Cisco 2960. If it's a different model, but still a 2960 that would be good. Otherwise they are $25 used on ebay. I know thr sotm isn't out yet but I'd love to learn your opinion on it when it comes out. Any chance u can do this comparison? It's highly requested throughout forums.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
@@ClassifiedBrief I gave it away for the AQvox was better and does 1 Gb/s.
@ClassifiedBrief
@ClassifiedBrief 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel seems the avox is more expensive than the sotm offering. Will you at least be comparing these two? How much better was it to the Cisco? Love your content. Keep up the good work!
@itamarkas
@itamarkas 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm looking for DAC/Streamer that can play MQA and control it from my tablet. Can you recommend on other combinations for MQA streaming? I also have vinyl system, this is just for discovering new music. Any suggestions? Thanks!
@ronnmaui
@ronnmaui 5 жыл бұрын
I have purchased one a couple of weeks ago and find the sound quality excellent. My issues were setting it up. It never directly connected to my wifi so I plugged it directly via ethernet. I then plug my CD into the analog section. Again sound is great. Now for the problems. I have numerous 50+ error messages dealing with "stream connection timed out" and others which I am not sure I understand and currently sending logs directly to their tech dept. I have rather slow internet which may not be helping my issues.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know this issue but fi I were you I would go to the Bluesound support site (support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us).
@MichaelGreco
@MichaelGreco 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Hans! Ignorant question. Can you let me know why you'd use analog vs digital out? Either to preamp or preamp that has a dac as well?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
That all depends on the equipment used. Just try and listen.
@soring5880
@soring5880 6 жыл бұрын
Hans, compared to the Yamaha WXC-50 do you think the extra cost is justified considering only sound quality?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
I find it justified but can’t say if you find it justified too.
@jorgen80ful
@jorgen80ful 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your good work!
@vadimkrylov
@vadimkrylov 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Hans! I do have a Node 2 but want to improve its sound quality. Can you suggest how to do it?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Sell it and buy a higher class device?
@DigitalBliss69
@DigitalBliss69 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! Just use Ethernet and you should be getting even better sound than the Node 2i over Wifi.
@vadimkrylov
@vadimkrylov 6 жыл бұрын
Digital Bliss I do use an Ethernet port. But I feel I outgrown Nodes sound quality. Buying a new steamer is a better idea than buying a new DAC and connecting it to coaxial out of Node 2?
@ruudstet3186
@ruudstet3186 6 жыл бұрын
@@vadimkrylov in my view a streamer influences the sound as well. You will keep the bluesound 'house signature' in sound if only the dac is changed. My chord Mojo gives a markedly different end result with either the node 2 or the chord Poly as streamer. The Poly is clearly better. But it won't do mqa. Hans had tested several streamers. Indeed time to move on?
@liamo4
@liamo4 6 жыл бұрын
@@DigitalBliss69 Apparently one of the big improvements sound wise in the Node 2i is the WiFi performance. Remember too that ethernet connection provides a means for possible electrical noise from the router. More attention is being paid to these factors these days, so mileage may differ with different components.
@manw3bttcks
@manw3bttcks 5 жыл бұрын
0:53 "controlled by smartphone,tablet or computer" can you be a bit more specific? Is the 'computer' s/w windows only or can you access the Node 2i with a general web browser (that is the node 2i has a HTML5 web server in it so I can control with something like firefox). I suspect this is really "android" or iOS/apple on the smartphone, and then a custom windows only app for the windows PC side. But general browser interface will be helpful since I use Linux desktops.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
You can use the Bluesound app on windows, MacOS, Linux, android or iOS.
@jonathanschwartz4615
@jonathanschwartz4615 4 жыл бұрын
Can I use this with a Naim NAC 112x? Thanks
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can.
@LordVictorHalgaard
@LordVictorHalgaard 5 жыл бұрын
A real shame that it can't pass DSD to an external DAC!
@menash41
@menash41 5 жыл бұрын
This or the Elac Discovery Server?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@zahed3021
@zahed3021 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@t1000se
@t1000se 5 жыл бұрын
can I connect my hi-res Sony speakers to this?
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Can't say. If they have a line input, you can.
@yourotherleft
@yourotherleft 6 жыл бұрын
Wish this one has usb or i2s output.
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and I wish my car has six seats, can be parked in any space and has a convertible top.... All at the price of a Kia Picanto, of course.
@yourotherleft
@yourotherleft 6 жыл бұрын
The Hans Beekhuyzen Channel nice classy reply. Thank you.
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