The Voynich Manuscript

[@PsychoSavager289]

I like to think that when the book is finally translated, it will turn out to be the 15th century equivalent of an end-user license agreement.

[@Quicksilver_Cookie]

This made me laugh way more than it had any right to :)

[@fionafiona1146]

I have heard the most likely origen is a previous an alphabet transcribing a moslem/arab scolers knowledge without that person seeing any of it.

[@phatbastard100]

@@fionafiona1146 say what?

[@lawshorizon]

*It's a cook book!*

[@user-sl4sy6vb7d]

It is already translated. It’s Old turkish language. Yt it. A father and a son figured it out.

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

I appreciate an actual documentary that contains verifiable facts. Most documentaries on the Voynich manuscript are of the form "Is it aliens? Probably not. But if it's not aliens, could it be a recipe book? Probably not. But if it's not aliens or a recipe book, could it be magic? Probably not, but if it's not..." I'm so glad TV is dying.

[@tonytafoya6217]

TV, much like rock-and-roll, will never die.

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

​@@tonytafoya6217 I wish I had a wittier comeback than "ok boomer" but really that entirely encapsulates my thoughts on the matter.

[@no_misaki]

@@thegardenofeatin5965 A dying meme? That's the best you could do?

[@tonytafoya6217]

@@thegardenofeatin5965 Encompasses would have been a more appropriate word for you to have used. Thanks for being so candid about your attention deficit disorder. Hope it gets better for ya.

[@Skabanis]

Shariq Torres so then the meme is dying just as fast...

[@ryleexiii1252]

This is so much more interesting than the “It was Aliens” commentary that plagues the internet.

[@MrDeicide1]

If Aliens didn't write this, then how did the Aliens put it in a bank vault in NYC with noone seeing them?

[@djamz4479]

UAP or southern?

[@BobbyDazzler888]

Aliens theory is often used yo discredit the truth

[@TexboyGamer]

It’s aliens tho

[@RoyAnderson]

Come on sheeple, open your eyes! If it WASN'T aliens then what WERE the aliens doing when it was written, huh?? Check and mate.

[@Tokinjester]

My first thought was "oh god, not *another* voynich documentary" but having watched, this is *definitely NOT* just another voynich documentary!! Really good work, well done!!

[@robertkopp873]

jim o'neill Yes, I agree fully with you. Commendable work.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

what are the other look like?

[@Tokinjester]

@@rizkyadiyanto7922 they're all pretty much the same, ten minutes of nothing much to say.

[@karleemiles2988]

@Herbert Munson maintaining Silent Unity?

[@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu9551]

Yes, so true, it's the best yet.

[@JaseRobertsonMusic]

I translated it. "We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty."

[@corporalclegg914]

“by not responding to this message, we will assume that you do not...” those punks have been nailing me too. bastards.

[@joseysomemore]

excelleant

[@graemebrown1191]

👏👏👏👏

[@mikek9297]

Looks to me like some blueprint for a thermal bathhouse with herbal water. Might actually be a good idea... I'll look into it - the heath nuts will pay out the ass for something like that !

[@Newjerseyblows]

Lmao

[@mduduzigama5534]

In conclusion, “The Voynich Manuscript” is the secret book where doctors learn their handwriting from. 🤷‍♀️

[@adhdasdfroflxd123]

Underrated 😆

[@chubbiMommi]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@petergriffin9902]

You saved me 1 hour

[@tracyredwine8311]

OMG that is FUNNY!!

[@davidwatkins204]

Is this some kind of a joke.

[@TheHistocrat]

Minor correction folks. The image comparison I gave of the manuscript to medieval beakers is wrong. The actual comparison is with a medieval cannon. I don't know how I got this one wrong, its clearly described as such in the source I used. Thanks to redditor Marc_op for catching this.

[@lunchmoneydnb]

What is the music playing during the 59 minute mark please? I have been looking for it now for ages it seems. Thanks for the great doc, enjoying it very much.

[@leonmohan1708]

@@lunchmoneydnb If you look at the bottom of show notes, you press "show more", and you will find a list of the licensed music. You should be able to find it from there. I hope this helps, good luck.

[@TheHistocrat]

​@@lunchmoneydnb Not in front of my editing computer right now, but I think its Gymnopedie no.3 by Kevin Macleod (original composer Erik Satie)

[@lunchmoneydnb]

@@TheHistocrat Thank you, found it. I had looked down there but somehow missed it. Thanks again and great vid. Enjoyed it rather much

[@peterblood50]

@@TheHistocrat Kevin McCleod is an awesome musician. I used his compositions in my amateur adventure videos. He was very generous in allowing me to use them.

[@ericmaher4756]

Strangely, I'm more interested in how someone might have coded a text that even computers can't decipher than to know the information it might contain.

[@vroiderantas]

When you and the homies have such a big inside joke you write an extremely elaborate book that confuse even metal formless golems that draw numbers.

[@sparkplugbarrens]

Can't you just make up an alphabet and then use use it to not make sense? I mean it is not proven, that the text actually has a meaning.

[@vroiderantas]

@@sparkplugbarrens it can be anything. If it means something then it could be somebodys crack fantasy or encyclopedia if its not its probably ancient trolling.

[@lucario2188]

@@sparkplugbarrens From the analysis of the manuscript the language of the manuscripts follows the Zipf's law that all language follow, that is why they think is a language, for reference Tolkien languages don't follow Zipf's law but the language of dolphin do and apart from the Zipf's law there is also the enthropy of the language. Pd: if you want to know more about the Zipf's law there is a video on Vsauce channel that talks about the subject.

[@sparkplugbarrens]

@@lucario2188 Wow thank you so much! I was actually a little disappointed, when I thought, it must be a language, that does not make sense / has a meaning. Is the theory "Zipf's law" older than the manuscript?

[@KentuckyFriedChildren]

Historians: “This is probably extremely important, we must decipher this” The Writer: “Yo Jakobs they’ll be puzzling over this nonsense for decades lmao”

[@nahCmeR]

They do be trolling back then, glad to know.

[@aurum6664]

Centuries lol

[@diya_505]

How much is for a bucket of Kentucky fried children?

[@GODOFEARTHREALM]

@@diya_505 😂

[@s0t3rwon_teoktheeviloneskr76]

Exactly

[@nickmandleberg]

Am totally absorbed in this documentary and just checked how much longer it goes on for, thinking it must be nearly over as it's covered so much.... I'm only 20 mins in of a 70 minute doc.... Sheer bliss!!!! Thanks for this

[@Geopholus]

As someone who knows a little bit about wild plants and herbs, the 1st thing I noticed is that only a few of the plants seem to be real ones. But in the last several videos On Voynich that I have looked at, including the one by the Turkish father and son who claim to have identified 600 words, I had a good look at a bunch of the words on a bunch of pages, and noticed one thing that agrees with one of their "disoveries"?:. This is a military cypher where only the vertical first letters of each line contains the message: What I noticed is about 60 % of the words on many pages look like a consonant at the beginning followed by an italic lower case (a) then the double (ll) and then an (o) and then an (m) or (n). So perhaps most of the manuscript is imaginary nonsense just designed to provide meaningful looking filler, and the only things that are important are the 1st letters of each line in vertical formation. This would explain why often the same "word" is repeated ad nauseum throughout the manuscript. When a person is making up nonsense they run out of ideas, and since no one will ever figure it out anyway, the perpetrator of said hoax , just falls into a rut, and runs out of imaginary garbage to generate. Otherwise who would write very neatly, gollam gollam gollam collar gollam voca qollam gollam pallom. There is no way to convey any meaning by just repeating the same word over and over unless, it was Jack Nicholson with a bad case of writer's block HAVING A DULL DAY ! SKEPTICS look at the pages. I say it may have been a military cypher pretending to be an old herbal. There is nothing to decipher but the 1st letters vertically? maybe?

[@obsidiananvil3447]

This is a key point, however it is highly unlikely that it is gibberish because it follows Zipf's law. Making it very likely to be an actual language. Furthermore, Zipf's Law was founded up 1940 so it wouldn't have been know to the writer at the time.

[@militarydeviltube5014]

Good theory

[@CaptainPieBeard]

Clever way of looking at it. Should definitely be considered.

[@Misses-Hippy]

My old eyes can't focus on a block of text. How about sole paragraphs?

[@missteeshemah580]

They sound more like chants to me that just mare repetition....av always strongly felt this is like a spell book or grimour, journal or something like that...the women the bath tubs the herbs....some are in circles...the only reason I can think of why those plants seem not to exist would only be because it was a long time and lol I can think of a few plants that where plenty back then,now they are all gone or grow in just one particular place and u have to know where to look....my conclusion? (Spellbook)

[@whatliesbeneaththeweave3518]

I’ve learned more about the manuscript in this video than any of the tv documentaries I’ve seen on it. Well put together and easy to follow!!

[@kyleeconrad]

Best username ever.... What lies beneath the weave... For those who dare to peek? A truth we can all believe... Or that of what you can't unsee...?

[@kyleeconrad]

@ Definitely not if you CHOOSE to convince yourself you are not of sound body and/or mind therefore calling your own eyes and possibly sanity into question in your own mind's eye.

[@RoarofdalioN]

It was Aliens

[@leannwinter1798]

I’m i

[@leannwinter1798]

Sorry my bad

[@Sevenigma777]

It's amazing that compared with how long television has been around that KZbin in such a short time blows away television in quality of content

[@ash_bee_music]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@deeg_daddy]

Changing fast. commercials overload. Censorship. 😮

[@Greblav]

I may depend on wich country the person commentating is from.

[@mowvu]

nothing to do with youtube. it's called free speech, which was amazing when left alone. now we got woke/commie yt and their bigtech friends trying to ruin everything. yes, youtube beats tv so easily. but it's getting just like mainstream bs

[@iga279]

people discuss what they like, and not the pulp that the producers tell them to do.

[@m.streicher8286]

Your deep dive into the owners of the manuscript served as a fantastic prequel to this video.

[@xXg00gl3Xx]

Fantastic Documentary. The level of work that went into this is astounding, and the production is phenomenal. I hope you don't end up with copyright issues like before, it would be a shame to have this level of work go to waste. Thank you for all the work, Charles. Look forward to more!

[@htos1av]

How can the "tribe" claim copyright? They were "offline" in Eastern Europe when this was produced in western Europe.

[@michaelmartin9022]

>Make voynich manuscript documentary >Wait for immortal eldrich god that possesed a human and made them write it to claim copyright >Ask for translation Cunning plan.

[@jimsoukup4568]

Most comprehensive documentary on this topic I’ve seen, kudos! For what it’s worth, and oddly coincidental, I was at the Huntington Library in Pasadena this weekend and saw some artwork remarkably similar to the manuscript illustrations. I said out loud “Wow, very similar to the Voynich Manuscript art.” No script or text on the artwork, but very similar depictions, plants and people.

[@martinbrooks4503]

"It's a Cook Book....!"😂By far the most detailed, informative and well presented documentaries on the subject. Well done.

[@ribozyme2899]

@@TugIronChief Source?

[@andyj39]

@@ribozyme2899 I think it is a reference to "The Twilight Zone" episode about the alien book "To Serve Man".

[@JoshuaM-b7h]

To serve man

[@TheHistocrat]

Many thanks for sticking with me on this one guys. I'm aware its a big departure from my normal work, but after reading about the subject I felt I just had to make it. The good news is its looking like a clear run at History of Britain now until Christmas.

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

its still an interesting topic nonetheless. i enjoy because of your content quality, not the topic. keep up the good work!

[@normangray7869]

I was under the impression that it had recently been suggested that it is in old Turkish or whatever the Turkish equivalent of old English is.

[@nicholasperrin1097]

Probably the best piece done on this mysterious manuscript! Thank you SOOOO much for NOT trying to add to the "mystery" by detailing some of the more out there conjectures of this manuscript! Your keeping to the facts is what kept me watching! It was really neat, though, to listen to this and realize that one of my favorite sci-fiction novels really knew a LOT about the actual history of the Voynich Manuscript. The story was built around it being a key plot item, with many of the people you brought up being key characters of the story, even though it was very much fiction, the writer really added to her made up world with actual facts which always really draws me in.

[@nicholasd6076]

@@nicholasperrin1097 What novel is this? Would love to read it!

[@nicholasperrin1097]

@@nicholasd6076 It is a three book set written by Deborah Harkness. The Book of Life, Shadow of Night, and A Discovery of Witches. The author spins history in a very clever way to tell her tale and is from what I can tell very knowledgeable about history she pulls from.

[@daigreatcoat44]

It's a great relief to see such a well- made documentary, without histrionics, and with music which doesn't get in the way. It seems to me that the subject is usually treated by conspiracy theorists. For me, the biggest puzzle is the sheer size of the document. Whether it's in code, or in an artificial language, or is just a joke, this puzzle remains. Has anyone figured out what the plants are, and where they might have been available when the text was written? How many characters are there in the alphabet?

[@katnip2u]

I've seen several interviews with a woman in an Eastern European country, who has deciphered about half of the manuscript, and the pages were coded in her language. The plants are not representational, but clues, content and context, depending on the page. It was written by a highly positioned catholic church man from her country, stationed in Italy, who experienced inner conflict. He had certain thoughts about the world, intimacy, spirituality, etc., which he had the need to record, but without getting discovered, because his thoughts were considered "heretical".

[@MissKorsakoff]

@@katnip2u that’s strange. I am from the Eastern Europe and we have never seen this language here.

[@katnip2u]

@@MissKorsakoff I'm from the same country, and as I said, it's coded BASED ON our language, not that it's THE LANGUAGE per se, that makes no sense.

[@charlesbenedetti8607]

Richard, see my comment (above) to the comment of John Yeager.

[@bruderk4257]

@@katnip2u So would you say there is some way for a person that does not speak any eastern language, to learn more about what you say ? Is there any information you are willing to share ? Like maybe at least the specific country you are taking about.

[@NobodyCaresALot]

I've been waiting a decade for a documentary like this to cover the Voynich. Never had the time, enthusiasm or resources to dig into it well enough. You've done a great service. Subbed and looking forward to watching more of your content! Thank you!

[@whateveryoulike4227]

This is just how people used to troll other people 500 years ago.

[@mashucha]

trollface

[@AbnerChamate]

Who knows right?

[@chompnormski]

That’s one hell of a troll that keeps going, and going……… and going.

[@camillelong2093]

You're probably right

[@ImGoingSupersonic]

Man, that is quite the trouble and work to go thru for a good laugh. Damn book is massive. But all it is, is a Mastercard terms and agreements from back in the day. Miasterdi Cardio.

[@crysylynn4225]

What a refreshing change from the typical unresearched conspiracy theory video. I always look forward to your videos, and this did not disappoint. Your commitment really shows. Great job, and thanks for the new information!!

[@DesmondScifo]

yes this is education, not misinformation. great work

[@rayanderson5797]

I have an odd theory, and I may not be the first to think this: I know that narwhal tusks were often sold as unicorn horns. Could this manuscript be something similar? Someone made it to sell as a wizard's spellbook or something. The cost of books back in that time sure would make that kind of work worth it.

[@georgetrex100]

cool idea

[@napatora]

damn this is a really great theory

[@Josiahcarter2081]

Along the right lines look into the. Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn . Say if it wasn't them bet they would know how to decipher it.

[@phillipstroll7385]

@@TugIronChief no it wasn't.

[@shanny4306]

BEST THEORY YET ! SO it’s just gibber gabber 😆

[@L3onking]

I am GENUINELY impressed at the Quality of this Documentary

[@bonzie321]

Thank you.❤️

[@HipHopShowRoom]

@@bonzie321 lol

[@paraboo8994]

Thinking back to all those random little margin illuminations in codices I've seen in libraries, strange illustrations go hand in hand with medieval manuscripts. There are those famous knights fighting snails, there was once a tiny bathtub a monk shared with a stork and a mermaid like creature in a book we looked at, a seahorse floating round a flower...the monks were just weird and doodled all over the place 😂

[@roberthornibrook6344]

monks get bored yo. LoL

[@patriciajrs46]

That's funny.😊

[@IgnatiusCheese]

Legend

[@voyaristika5673]

Thoroughly enjoyed this doc. All the facts well ordered and presented in coherent manner with no dramatic music or cheap thrills. Thank you!

[@jasonsmith8401]

Hey, did you know if you look at the voyage manuscript in a mirror it’ll decode it yeah apparently the book was written while looking in a mirror so that’s why it’s a reverse image

[@jondoe9581]

This is an absolute masterpiece. I have seen several other documentaries this is by far the best. Hats off to you sir good job!

[@wyleong4326]

Jon Doe, I totally agree with you. I was watching the BBC version after this and the suspense music and the whodunitwhere questionings are so unbearable. I sat through it because I wanted to contrast the information and not surprising, this is much superior - densely pact and well-paced.

[@peterblood50]

Apparently only women if the illustrations are any indication. Hannibal Lecter, Medieval Style.

[@carmenpeters728]

Keep your hat on. Yale University deciphered it in 2018. it's written in Turkish using Latin alphabet. turkish was not written in Latin alphabet until Attaturk mandated it. In 1923.

[@jondoe9581]

@@carmenpeters728 USS NEMITZ, you see the world through a key hole, and also are touching only the elephants taint. Turn on the lights to see the entire picture. We mighty humans who can not even live in such a way that we prosper know the answers to every thing. Laughable but I guess ignorance is bliss...

[@moag2000]

It translates roughly to "one ring to rule them all, one ring to find them..." still on it guys

[@tobyjamison6801]

And in the darkness of their foolishness bind them

[@FeelslikeHalloween]

This was absolutely fascinating, extremely detailed and very well made! Thank you!

[@BummersAbound]

“After application of wood glue on surfaces to be joined, Insert (L-2) side panel peg into shelf base (B-1) and turn previously installed cam # 3 clockwise until (L-2) and (B-1) meet firmly”

[@runed0s86]

Thank you for reminding me to superglue my tv tray table back together

[@Christie-cz7tc]

Not another shelving unit hoax!!

[@sinbad5531]

Finally, something serious and credible about that manuscript ! Thank you

[@nilstrobaggia735]

They translated and published what it says: October 12, 823 AD: Brown drippy and stinky 8 inches with some black things in it. October 13, 823 AD: Brown and green together, then very runny, stinky diarrhea. Had to wipe twice, ate mutton yesterday. October 14, 823 AD: Hard, clumpy, and dry. About 7 inches long; had to wiggle my butt to get it out. Wiped, but really didn't need to. October, 15 823 AD...

[@imperatorming9869]

Wow, that essay is amazing! Well edited and beautifully narrated. Thanks so much for your work!

[@WiseOwl_1408]

Was 60 mins to long. Extremely drawn out.

[@nestortomaselli5648]

This manuscript looks part like a botanical study and part like a study on Lovecraftian lore and cosmic horror.

[@Jordan-ke1hg]

Except it was written long before Lovecraft lived

[@TheArtis4n]

@@Jordan-ke1hg which would make it far more terrifying

[@Pentapus1024]

@Jordan Captain Obvious right here...

[@natureswrath7665]

@@TheArtis4n I've always wondered what we would do if we found a 1000 year old shrine to Cthulhu somewhere tomorrow, would religions suddenly start to worship Lovecraft? How would it affect out understanding of history or the religious world?

[@TheArtis4n]

@@natureswrath7665 I never thought of that as a possibility That's bizarre

[@mirandamom1346]

There’s been some success extracting DNA from parchment. I wonder if it could be used to identify the breed of calf used, and possibly the location it was bred.

[@rahowherox1177]

@neal thailand and we know they were recycled often many times.

[@jakecross4628]

@neal thailand I am not so sure that you are right about that. When it comes to the large foldouts it looks like they were cut as per demand rather than just standard parchment.

[@jakecross4628]

Sensible question, I say that as I raised it before myself:) I think with technological advances things like this will be possible. I have suggested extracting the author's DNA.

[@jakecross4628]

@neal thailand I would certainly agree that it is possible there might be some time before this is technologically realisable. Establishing a large enough dataset I think is less of a problem. Do you have sources which indicate that parchment was typically produced and transported long distances? It seems to be if parchment was freshly cut to specific size requirements it was very likely done locally and what reason was there to transport parchment long distances when it could be produced locally?

[@jakecross4628]

@neal thailand The 9 Rosette foldout is particularly large and not exactly off the shelf.

[@rjwh67220]

I’ve been interested in the Manuscript, in a sort on non-scholarly half-assed way for many years, including visiting it once at Yale. This is a great documentary, well researched and beautifully presented. I can’t thank you enough.

[@NatashaLeeDivine]

Fantastic video! Thanks for all your work, thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@templerunes]

Mommy

[@sarahpollard7879]

@@templerunes ?!?!?!?

[@templerunes]

@@sarahpollard7879 🥺👉👈

[@sarahpollard7879]

@@templerunes huh

[@templerunes]

@@sarahpollard7879 UwU spanky spanky

[@Widespread-Panic]

This is the most well-researched fact compilation on the Voynich Manuscript that I've accessed to date. Very interesting how it's wound its way through history and intrigued so many people. That's the thing about humans; we love a good mystery. I've been minorly interested in this book for awhile, and to be honest, end end of this video presents a very likely theory as to its origin. I have an interest in languages, which is why this mystery appeals to me, but I've always understood how unlikely it is that anyone will ever know the books' origin or contents with absolute certainty. Thanks for a satisfying explanation of what it might contain. The truth is more likely to be mundane than fantastical.

[@guitar0wnz]

This has got to be the best VMS documentary out there (along with part two), I think I've watched every single one but these seem to have the most amount of relevant, well produced content with zero salacious flare and attention hustling clickbaiting material

[@ChoppedSteak]

Wow, this was worth the wait. Absolutely chop full of information I didn't know before. Thank you

[@tammichenard1024]

Chock full, you mean.

[@theodorebear6714]

Super cool book. Great video. It's such a chore trying to understand anything about the voynich manuscript. Thanks for making this video. 👍

[@basicbits6244]

Came for the mystery, stayed for the history.

[@JerryRiceBall]

Jon Heimsjø Came for the flip flops, stayed for the hip hops.

[@GingerStone]

Mystery is her story... the opposite of his story 🌻

[@TheWriterWalker]

Lol. I am loving the original comment and its funny responses.

[@josenildoferreiraassuncao8963]

nice

[@josenildoferreiraassuncao8963]

@@JerryRiceBall funny

[@peterpike]

The translation is actually pretty straightforward: "So long, and thanks for all the fish!"

[@mariahammarstrom7934]

Which explains the ladies swimming naked in green water.

[@andrewkelly1225]

I liked this, but had to unlike as I noticed I was the 43rd like. Forty two likes is just the right amount.

[@BoogerDeluxe22]

*slaps elbow*

[@enoumoh2039]

A hitchhiker's guide to the universe reference. I see.

[@b3yourself91]

the cover says "Don't Panic"

[@nickc3657]

I’m very impressed with how well-sourced and -cited this is, thank you so much!

[@fndmystory]

I have read about the MS on numerous occasions however, find myself now fascinated by its journey through the ages placing it at over 600 years old to date. Fantastic! Thank you and we'll documented.

[@nerdalotdulac8552]

Such a great video. It’s so informative and honest. If all documentaries had this much respect I would watch a lot more. Than god this channel exists.

[@cheekynham2411]

That's not a dragon! It's a SEA HORSE underwater, eating algae.

[@rawtrout007]

saturn scape lmao

[@raheem8086]

God Damn it we don't take to kindley to seahorses round here ...

[@thejakeyboi]

This was actually my first thought when looking at the images. I actually think it is details underwater plants, not above ground.

[@VolcanicProtectorMan]

Sea horses eat brine shrimp and other small plankton like creatures not algae

[@rahowherox1177]

@@VolcanicProtectorMan but someone whose seen seahorses hiding in the algae may perceive it to be eating it, or the interpretation of eating in pic could be wrong. Im picking a seahorse is more likely than a dragon.

[@valley_robot]

excellent work on this documentary, better than any TV show or any other youtube video I've ever seen on this subject. thank you so much for an informative, educational piece of art. keep it up, the narration is fantastic, not too slow, not too fast, just perfect.

[@TruthIsTheNewHate84]

This is outstanding. Well done sir. This is by far the best documentary I have seen on this subject. For once KZbin has actually recommend something worth watching and from a channel worth subscribing to. I'm very happy to have been recommended this. From looking at your past uploads it would seem you are starting to upload fairly regularly. Can't wait to see what you create next.

[@zevaronxz7288]

Truth aint hait commie

[@MrsCaranAmy]

Brilliant. Thank you for all the historical information. I had never heard of this strange manuscript.

[@inspired_girl_ari7263]

Finally more information... Than the other documentaries I looked at.

[@Dyloskbrod]

One thing that caught my attention and interest was reference to Mme Voynich being the author of a novel called The Gadfly. I'd never before traced the origins of the Soviet movie of the same name whose sound track was famously composed by Shostakovich. The Gadfly suite is well known and loved everywhere. It was also used as the theme music for a laterTV series Riley Ace of Spies. And it all comes back to Voynich.

[@DarkMoonDroid]

Wow!

[@patriciajrs46]

Quite intersting.

[@jackiespeel6343]

I have wondered if Mazzini was one of the sources of The Gadfly. EV was the daughter of George Boole and great-niece of George Everest.

[@TrinidadJamesWoods]

This was a very well made presentation. We can only hope that the manuscript will be deciphered at some point and that it's contents will live up to the curiosity they have generated over the centuries.

[@heberje]

Mr. Ardic claims he and his son have discovered more than 300 words in the Voynich Manuscript Code. His research paper was published on the John's Hopkins University digital journal. In his online video presentation , which has been watched almost a million times, Mr. Ardic concluded that the manuscript was written in a poetic, rhythmic method called "Phonemic Orthography" which describes speech visually.

[@TheAngryHippie]

I don't get why anyone would dislike this. This is a very well made documentary. Thank you!

[@MyGrassIsGreenest]

The aliens disliked it

[@fess3932]

Sometimes people dislike things so similar things won’t appear in their feed. Say for example, this video keeps showing up in your recommended and you hate vid docs, you will click the video, dislike it and then vid docs wont show up in your feed anymore

[@Violetta1912]

I love your voice and the music is really beautiful, not at all distracting. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@RetroPillowcase]

Spoilers bro

[@legitbeans9078]

Spoilers? 😂

[@victorcode2075]

I like to think its just a beautiful, abstract, mysterious work of art, and all of us speculating are doing exactly what the artist wanted.

[@inappropriatern8060]

It's what Maynard would've written in Rosetta Stoned had he remember to bring his pen.

[@NobodyCaresALot]

Goddamn, shit the bed.

[@grandotaku2501]

it tells you where to find the best orange slices

[@joelspaulding5964]

But it would have taken 10 years to release.

[@mwamburi]

When your handwriting is so bad it takes three centuries to read.

[@GODemon13]

I wonder if anybody ever tried holding it up to a mirror.

[@midnightwatchman1]

LOL

[@frank_calvert]

@@GODemon13 No, because they could tell that it was left to right as the characters were basically just flipped versions of a language that went right to left.

[@GODemon13]

@@frank_calvert And that would just be too hard to fake? Not buying it.

[@Brind-amour]

Good one! 😂

[@fmphotooffice5513]

Fascinating to the end. Thank you. Aside: It's nice to see web content, especially on the wild world of KZbin, well-produced, excellent, worth one's time without distraction or content creator's secondary interference having to do with patronage, advertising, self-promotion, ego, etc.

[@TheNightBadger]

This documentary: superb. The efforts to translate the manuscript: abysmal. We assume only someone smart / capable would write a book of this kind so long ago. But some people are / go mad. It may literally be incomprehensible because the writer themselves was nuts.

[@sonidophore9100]

TheNightBadger that’s what I was thinking.

[@ccarmack15]

TheNightBadger it seems to je simpler than we make it. Maybe a household encyclopedia in a dead language (dragon eating herbs, bathing in a green liquid-herb bath) theres also cosmological charts and botanical pieces. With recipes at the end. I can fathom all of this bein present in a book for household/self care a couple thousand years ago like the good housewife books of the 1900’s

[@jeremymain7303]

If the writer was nuts it seems unlikely that they would create and adhere to a script throughout the document as they have here. Also analysis has decisively proven that the text in the document adheres ridgedly to grammatical rules, none of which a crazy person could possibly do.

[@jeremymain7303]

@@ccarmack15 The analysis found that the language in the text is closest to Chinese.

[@arisucheddar3097]

Some bored youngster trying to keep up with his lessons, but doodling naked women in the margins, and amusing himself writing in his private language

[@MarkCodyDirtAndMingle]

That was one of the best things I’ve seen in ages. Thank you very much.

[@butcholsen3237]

"her friend Anne Nill with whom she shared her apartment for the last third of her life" who's gonna tell them.

[@epicmanatee592]

She also had a husband, not totally implausible that she could’ve been bi though but it was more common back then for adult women to live together platonically

[@snartsnart2718]

gal pal’d once again

[@epicmanatee592]

@@snartsnart2718 oh no am I gonna end up in r/sapphoandherfriend

[@taliajung1553]

And they were roommates Oh my god they were r o o m m a t e s

[@agarstoosagarstoos3819]

@@taliajung1553 lol

[@steelcityterps]

I think this is the 11th night in a row I've listened to this Thank you- whomever you are This is the most in depth, random, I'm not sure-but I'll take your word- upload ever. This is probably the 4th time ive commented. Thanks again

[@thejakeyboi]

This was absolutely great and I loved your deep dive on the subject. Thank you! I know it strays from your usual stuff, but I would love to see another investigation/history of other mysteries/unsolved ciphers/anomalies. I think Nicholas Roerich would be a good example of one such enigma. Cheers!

[@xXHollyLeafXx]

Dr. Justin Sledge sent me over from Esoterica and I am not disappointed. You got yourself a new subscriber.

[@evananderson8452]

Clever. Well done. You even included video of his wife at the end.

[@GODemon13]

It's an alien cook book. "To Serve Man"

[@MrSimmer17]

Ralen Kwisted exactly my thought. I truly think it’s a cook book for eating people

[@Brind-amour]

Twilight Zone 👍🏼

[@cheese3416]

@@Brind-amour yep

[@ledarbyromeo9667]

The real recipe & prep work for Soylent Green.

[@Larry-xf3qt]

GODemon13 u got that from twilight zone u uncultured swine

[@melancholiaenshrinesalltriumph]

we all just want that one special "friend" who will live with us for over 30 years and be the recipient of all our possessions when we die

[@lindalee7322]

Thank you so much. This has been the most interesting and thorough historical trace of the Voynich Manuscript that I have ever heard and seen on the internet to date. God bless you for your dedication, research, and entertainingly composed documentary. Loved it! Kudos to you. Happy New Year 2020. Big hugs for you, Linda Lee

[@tuckergary1516]

unsolved mysteries are the best.

[@scienceexplains302]

Someone in the early 1400s (based on carbon dating of the parchment) wrote a book about botany and/or medicine and maybe other stuff in a writing that they invented. Then maybe they died before they could document the decryption process. Very clever author.

[@ccsmooth55]

What an amazing documentary! I think the biggest key to cracking this manuscript is to figure who wrote it. The reason that is important is because we need to understand what language to translate it to. Its obvious that the characters used in the writing are not any known characters used in any known written language. In order to crack any code, you have to know what the original language that code was used to conceal. If we can figure out who wrote it, then that could narrow down the language the manuscript needs to be translated to.

[@afroditastate191]

Hello, and If It Was An Invented Language ?

[@pinchebruha405]

Yep I’m thinking a savante or like the Cherokee language; someone figured out how to make up thier own language in written form?

[@nutellabootycakes]

@@TugIronChiefsources?

[@jameswebb4593]

Superb documentary , informative and well presented without any hype. Ethel Voynich was the daughter of an English mathmatician .

[@sal_manicuri2016]

How am I watching this for free? Best doco I've seen about this mysterious manuscript The hour went far too quickly. Thanks for this great content, well done! *subs with a smile*

[@amandabernard8179]

Even if it was written by a medical person in the 1400s I'd still say that it would be fascinating as to what they wrote. Historical pieces could be more accurate and we would learn more about the history of medicine.

[@bobcourtier4674]

It says “don’t forget to drink your Ovaltine”.

[@anglicky69]

a crummy commercial?!

[@DeepTexas]

Bob Courtier fffffuuuuuuuuuuuudddgge

[@YouTubePaysScammersToScamyou]

More ovaltine please!

[@raymartinez5788]

👏👏👏😆

[@r.i.promance7467]

Lol that's truly funny

[@exterminans]

Quite the leap from the late bronze age collapse and prehistoric Britain. Maybe one day you can cover something relating to Romanian history. Haha. Anyway thank you for all your hard work making these documentaries bro. The quality keeps going up too. Cheers!

[@TheHistocrat]

Yeah I needed a break. More Prehistory soon!

[@miguelpereira9859]

Um Tuga adepto da história?

[@beatefuhrer9688]

Dieses Manuskript sagt ganz bestimmt "... Greif mich, begreif mich." Es fesselt den Verstand und übersteigt den eigenen Verständnis- Bereich, und das ist vielleicht das nächste Problem, die eigenen Sinne und Filter sind wie Grenzen, Barrikaden und Schubladen der eigenen Wahrnehmung. Dankeschön, spannendes Video. Ich hätte mir allerdings gewünscht - eine kurze visuelle Übersicht der einzelnen Seiten hier zu finden. ;-) Herzensgruss Beate ❤

[@chris7sutton19]

Some Tolkien type person makes a fiction book back in the day. Thousand year later what a mystery it must be the meaning of life. Such a great video and no ads who is this GOAT?

[@angelaloveabread4812]

Why it's billlaaaa

[@thrace_bot1012]

*Its not fiction dude* , that's the entire reason why it has been attracting such massive academic interest worldwide for centuries. There are laws and demonstrable / observable patterns in real world linguistics that can be used to easily distinguish fake , made up dialectic jargon from ACTUAL ones. Just an excerpt in support of what I said : "In 2014, a team led by Dr Diego Amancio of the University of São Paulo's Institute of Mathematical and Computer Sciences published a paper detailing a study using statistical methods to analyse the relationships of the words in the text. Instead of trying to find the meaning, Amancio's team used complex network modelling to look for connections and clusters of words. By employing concepts such as frequency and intermittence, which measure occurrence and concentration of a term in the text, Amancio was able to discover the manuscript's keywords and create three-dimensional models of the text's structure and word frequencies. Their conclusion was that in 90% of cases, the Voynich systems are similar to those of other known books such as the Bible, indicating that the book is an actual piece of text in an actual language, and not well-planned gibberish."

[@matthewodonnell6906]

That “dragon eating a leaf” at 7:08 looks a lot more like a seahorse than a dragon. Maybe someone saw the seahorse eating small crustaceans off of kelp and wanted to depict it. We really have no idea what it is without a way to read the text.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

How would they see that though? It would be under the sea and they'd have no ability to dive and watch.

[@matthewodonnell6906]

Sovereign Snorlax There are two species of seahorse in the Mediterranean near Europe, both of which are found in shallow waters near algae, sea grass, and sea weed. It’s conceivable that they could be spotted by a casual swimmer off of the coast of Spain, France, Italy, or the Balkans.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@matthewodonnell6906 Who knows.

[@MMAGamblingTips]

Crystal Dreams Unlikely 😂

[@EphemeralTao]

If this is a seahorse, which it does resemble, that would fit in with this being a medical manual. There are several folk traditions that use dried seahorses medicinally (the demand for which is threatening to drive several species of seahorse extinct in modern times).

[@DarinPirkey]

I made something similar to this for a story I was writing when I was younger. I made up an entire history of a civilization and then wrote a story about the downfall of the civilization.

[@PacificExpressions]

Really cool. Medical techniques aren’t mundane. Alchemy is a fantastical pipe dream. So the VM had to be about something. Da Vinci’s notebooks were also about essentially basic things.

[@aquietplace5832]

If anyone reads the book series "The Alchemist" John Dee is in that book. This documentary and that series has A LOT of parallels. They were really good books!

[@TheRobyynn]

Fantastic. I love the ghostly kiss at the end. Nice spooky touch to a very well researched documentary. I am impressed.

[@scottstreet1]

It says; 'We've updated our privacy policy'....

[@thaileinh9877]

Imaging, people 500 years from now on will look at memes and wondering what they meant.

[@guotyr2502]

You compare hundreds of pages of indescribable , centuries old writing with edgy memes shallower than a puddle of piss that has nothing more as a reason than childish opinions and simple inside jokes. Might be just fake nonsense , but I'm sure one page had more thought put into it than any of these internet memes , it other words , it doesn't take much to understand them.

[@thaileinh9877]

@@guotyr2502 Can someone point out where did I said "the manuscript is just like memes" because I don't remember I said that. If even you can't seem to interpret what I said and just make things up, then I'm pretty sure about my statement.

[@chloewinnaa1515]

@Cat Egorical god

[@haroldcampbell3337]

@@guotyr2502 Typical immature snarky KZbin reply

[@MuchWhittering]

@@guotyr2502 I'd say you must be fun at parties, but you probably don't get invited to any.

[@kekero540]

It probably was a personal journal of someone interested in alchemy and astrology (and maybe writing some naughty stuff) I mean medieval marginalia is already pretty wacky compared and I’m pretty sure we would consider a lot of the creatures seen as un identifiable if we didn’t know the language.

[@crabshoehorse9735]

Very good documentary on this subject. Very informative. Keep up the good work! Thumbs up from Germany 👍

[@ZacherlJem]

The ladies in the green pool remind me of the murals at The Cheescake Factory.

[@nothingatall8689]

More like the virgins of paradise 😂😂😂

[@pilotonthescene]

I was getting major Human Centipede vibes.

[@jillferri1164]

( figures ....... how about 9 months of pregnancy???

[@zephyrmadera5180]

It was truly a book ahead of its time

[@runed0s86]

This looks like a gendered public bath tbh

[@kralevic3297]

I very much enjoyed your video! I never knew that the Voynich Manuscript had such ties to Rudolph II. and Prague. Just a little tip: it's helpful to put the names of the people you're talking about on the screen. Obviously nobody can pronounce these names in the intended way if they're translated across several languages, one of them dead; but if you write them out, it's easier for people to look them up. I'm Czech, so I was curious about the Bohemian characters and I will put their names down here if anyone's interested: The bohemian doctor "Jan Marek Marci" - fully latinized: Johannes Marcus Marci, fully Czech: Jan Marek Marků (it seems to me like this name was supposed to be pronounced [marki], in restored pronunciation it would have, but in the 1600, who knows) Singnature on the actual manuscript by "Jakub Horcice de Tepenec" - latinized: Jacobus Sinapius, Czech: Jakub Horčický z Tepence. (Honestly, props for even trying to pronounce "horčice" . The "Tepenec" part is definitely pronounced [tepenetz], after a medieval castle not far from his birth place in Moravia) "Raphael Mirizowski(?)" - Czech: Rafael Soběhrd Mnišovský ze Sebuzína a Herštejna (germanized as Raphael Sobiehrd Mnishowski, can't find any proper latinisation of his name)

[@silentwhisper8633]

This was absolutely phenomenal, thank you. I'm a "regular person", educated, yet not highly educated. My curiosity has led me to educating myself in what I like, or what seems important. The reason I say that is..... IMHO, every mysterious fact finding institutional study that would benefit our Earth as a whole, should be attended by some people who have a natural ability to see links that form the big picture. They might be hard to find, because everyone thinks they have that, lol. Just saying, the separate tiny facts are the most important, but when you're down that hole, you need FRESH EYES, to help you think! It's WHAT YOU CAN LEARN AFTER YOU KNOW EVERYTHING... that really counts. Don't stop too soon, which humans sometimes do, and then someone else starts over.

[@RichMitch]

Good shout

[@tracygonzalez2447]

Q

[@cameronkoontz6393]

When you realize this is just Medieval-Age Sonichu

[@daikoophasianidae]

xD

[@prettylights8873]

My IMMEDIATE thought

[@gillianross7225]

Shut up

[@thecianinator]

It really is though lmao

[@bethanydavis9023]

Uhhhh, what?

[@memoi6308]

What an unexpected little gem of a documentary!

[@jmicone6895]

You've produced the best work I've seen on this topic.

[@jakecross4628]

Checkout the Voynich Ninja KZbin channel

[@Cryolemon]

I've always assumed it is either an esoteric alchemy text or something written to troll alchemists.

[@phobod1]

No, it's a mixture of Persian and early Iraqi it seems, based on the pictographs and star maps/mythology illustrated into static drawings

[@aje7183]

Old Turkic

[@timothymclean]

Or possibly a primitive D&D sourcebook.

[@TheStarBlack]

@@phobod1 if that was true it would already have been translated.

[@kylacrush6810]

ONE it’s surprising more people don’t know that the manuscript was translated by a Canadian Professor (w/ an affinity for ancient Turkic ) & his sons their research is quite expansive & prolific explaining it was written by a seemingly illiterate Turkish farmer that wrote it phonetically as heard/spoken rather than with correct spelling & grammar..

[@waffelz830]

This book helps you understand what dyslexia feels like.

[@gillianross7225]

Shut up

[@arturama8581]

It doesn't. It just shows you another language.

[@poutinedream5066]

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm really, really intelligent. I look at the cryptogram puzzle in the paper and I'm like "impossible, nothing can be done."

[@L0rdOfThePies]

To me Dyslexia feels like having proper words in your brain but you write down nonsense and miss important letters reading is like "these are language but all i see are paper lines and my brain is telling me words but im not sure where the words are or where they're comung from"

[@poutinedream5066]

@@L0rdOfThePies Someone recently told meca dyslexia-related joke in a comment thread. I commented: Hmmm, I'm tempted to make a Chris Chan joke here. It's probably too soon. Someone replied: It's never a 'good time' for a joke about sexual assault, because no will ALWAYS mean "NO!" ...unless you're dyslexic- then it's on 👍 As a 44 year-old college educated woman, a mom of 2 daughters in their 20s, I'm horrified to admit, that I laughed my ass off. Sounds like dyslexia sucks, thought I'd share my one dyslexia-related joke I just came across very recently. Hang in there, though, seriously. Life is just one nightmare after another with occasional moments of relief- we just differ in what makes up those nightmares, but we're all having a pretty lousy time.

[@AneTix101]

Proud to become a patreon member and support this sort of hard work.

[@tempestfury8324]

As for it being an elaborate hoax or an extremely daunting cipher; nothing was mentioned of any corrections or errors made. Without some type of error, the notion of it being a fabrication is not only possible but plausible if not likely. That is cipher-breaking 101. Are there mistakes? Where? Comparative analysis? Context? Thank you for an extremely well done production!

[@tempestfury8324]

@@annalisette5897 : Although your research may be very interesting and hypothesis intriguing, your reply lacks any revelation to my simple question.

[@jerma953]

watching this as a czech person makes me feel weirdly proud of our history

[@greyfells2829]

Bohemia was a powerhouse, sad what the red years did to Central Europe. We will all rise again!

[@patrickquirke888]

Nazdar 😊

[@dusandragovic09srb]

Those old folk would be proud of this video. Well done!

[@megaravalkyrie6880]

Short version: they dont know who wrote it or when, they dont know what it says. This is a long history of who owned it over the last 600 years.

[@Weird.Dreams]

Thanks dude, saved me watching 60 minutes o' bullshit.

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

@@htoodoh5770 It's not BS, and a lot of hard work went into it, but tbh although I love the channel I wouldn't have watched had I fully realized the end would just be "it's a medical work most likely but still untranslated". I'd have been glad for the head's up

[@nwicconsultants6640]

@@justthecoolestdudeyo9446: Your right about the hard work into this documentary but isn't the description "explore the UNSOLVED enigma sort of a head's up?

[@0110-i4v]

@@Weird.Dreams actually it was very interesting ! i listened to the whole thing , wasn’t bullshit at all

[@katnip2u]

@@justthecoolestdudeyo9446 It was not botanical nor medical book. The manuscipt was written and coded by a well off and a highly positioned priest in Italy. He was originally from where I and the decoder come from in Eastern Europe, and it was written and coded based on our language, hence it could never be decoded by other language user. It took 4 month to "crack" the first word and 8 years to decode half of it. The author of the manuscript was very experientially spiritual, who seemed to have communicated with God, Christ (according to what he expresses in the manuscript) and he had recorded his insights, visions, communications with Christ. One of the reasons why he encrypted what he wrote, was his safety, as much of what he considered spiritually true or some intimate thoughts, questions he had and recorded there, were considered heretical in the 1500s and he would have been killed, if caught with this material.