The Battle of Maiwand 1880 | 2nd Anglo Afghan War

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The History Chap

The History Chap

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@williamtraynor-kean7214
@williamtraynor-kean7214 Жыл бұрын
While at dinner in the Army & Navy Club when Tony Blair announced that British troops would be deployed to Afghanistan, a rather famous author and soldier remarked “do these people never read history?”
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My dad said something similar at the time..on the lines of the Yanks don't know what they are going into but we Blinking well should!
@barryalexander2909
@barryalexander2909 Жыл бұрын
There was a cartoon in Soldier magazine with a squaddie in desert kit heading off to Afghanistan with ghosts of British soldiers looking on. The caption was 'Been there, done that. Hope you has better luck than we did'.
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 2 ай бұрын
Reminding Afghans and British of battle of Maiwand was a staple of Taliban PR and propaganda
@lajoszlatos3285
@lajoszlatos3285 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It's another fantastic story (again) about the British military history! Thank you very much for everything & your storytelling talent!!!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for your support.
@fredazcarate4818
@fredazcarate4818 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir for your narrative of the battle.
@joeritchie4554
@joeritchie4554 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic history lesson. It is amazing how much destruction comes about when orders are not thought through and are still given. Also, not knowing the terrain and being fully prepared for battle always leads to disastrous results.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment
@tristansmyth6802
@tristansmyth6802 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic documentary! I know the Lion monument very well as our family moved to Reading when I was 7 years old; Maiwand was a byword of British defeat at the time of the Empire; we were all taught about it at school - General Lord Roberts is also well known to my family as my Great Grandfather was on the Roberts March, he was a driver, using 4 or 6 horses to pull the limber and artillery piece he was ordered to drive. I still have his Army paybook, which has some fascinating details. Thank you for bringing Maiwand to everyone's attention. I know it would have made my Great Grandfather very proud that we remembered this terrible situation for the British in Afghanistan.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to hear about your great grandfather. I’m sure he could’ve told the story even better than me!
@tristansmyth6802
@tristansmyth6802 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap I forgot to mention that the men who took part in the 320-mile march known as "Lord Roberts March" were awarded the Kabul Khandahar Star - my Great Grandfather was awarded this star; it was awarded to both British and Indian soldiers, Officers, NCO's and Enlisted men alike for this was no ordinary march.
@theblackprince1346
@theblackprince1346 Жыл бұрын
A fascinating video Chris. It's a battle that up until today I'd never heard of before.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment.
@barryalexander2909
@barryalexander2909 Жыл бұрын
Another fabulous video, many thanks. I recall rumours that in 2007, Afghan elders complained to a senior officer about bad behaviour from British soldiers. When investigated, it turned out the complaint dated to the 1870s. Long memories indeed. Taliban propaganda always invoked the folk memory of Maiwand as a rallying call for the tribes.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Fascinating story thank you so much for sharing
@robertevans9897
@robertevans9897 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant
@edthilenius7530
@edthilenius7530 Жыл бұрын
You, sir, are indeed the master of wonderful stories of English history. For the very first time in my 24-year marriage to my beautiful wife Debbie, she listened and watched this video. When it came time for the story of little Bobby the dog, she was deeply moved. Well done, my friend, as always. Superbly crafted, and we look forward to your next story. Until then, Cheers and be well.😊
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
That’s such a lovely comment, thank you. I’m glad your wife enjoyed it too.
@coult001
@coult001 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great story, having served the UN in Pakistan during the 1980's I learned a lot about this period. Later at the Dutch Foreign Office as a securety advisor, I warned that sending NATO to Afghanistan on a "winning hearts and minds "mission would be a waste of time and lives! Read the history, I said. Nobody reacted. Keep up the great stories,Chris.
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 Жыл бұрын
The moral of the story is not to invade Afghanistan. No one ever succeeds. Ask the Soviets in 1979.
@toekneekerching9543
@toekneekerching9543 Жыл бұрын
@@philhawley1219 And yet this nation that stood up to the worlds biggest empires apparently couldnt stop a few illiterate taliban in old pickup trucks taking over the whole country in less than a month...
@Lassisvulgaris
@Lassisvulgaris Жыл бұрын
@@toekneekerching9543 I suppose the latter war was a civil war (if wars can be civil)....
@Trebor74
@Trebor74 Жыл бұрын
​@@philhawley1219the moral is that you pay the "good guys" to fight "the bad guys" then leave them to it.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences.
@Katmando376
@Katmando376 Жыл бұрын
I recognise the paiting of the battle but didn't really know much about it. Well done, Bobby! Thanks Chris.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@rtsesmelis
@rtsesmelis Жыл бұрын
Great story. Well told. Never heard about this battle before. Salute to all these brave men.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@nigelwillson6096
@nigelwillson6096 Жыл бұрын
Splendid, splendid. Always drawn to accounts of British Military conflicts in Afghanistan, Burma, South Africa, France and North Africa since ancestors on both sides of my family were involved in battles in those areas.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
@majorronaldmandell7835
@majorronaldmandell7835 11 ай бұрын
Yes! Another capital story brought to life, a story Ihad never heard before!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Antonnick
@Antonnick Ай бұрын
In an article in one of the "British empire" books, that you have on the shelf behind you, I seem to remember reading that General "Bobs" achievement in getting his army from Kabul to Kandahar in record time was a fantastic accomplishment that for many years afterwards his organisation methods were feted. Having arrived in Kandahar the Afghans were completely routed after their fortress was stormed.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Ай бұрын
Thanksk for watching my video & for your feedback.
@73north
@73north 11 ай бұрын
I read My God, Maiwand" by Leigh Maxwell, and it gave the full story , including a forgotten last stand by Jacob's Rifles after the defeat
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@OscarGomez-hx8zc
@OscarGomez-hx8zc Жыл бұрын
Why , why , why would General Burrows sacrifice his army this way? The Battle of Maiwand was unknown to me, thanks Chris so much for your great , great work!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
It’s my pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@harryshriver6223
@harryshriver6223 Жыл бұрын
I was moved by the story of Bobby, the mongrel dog who fought at the Battle of Maiwand. What was so handsome about the cab that ran over him? It sounded like it was a tragic tale of overconfidence, and you were right, not paying attention to signs given to you. Another excellent triumph on the annals of history, bravo, amigo.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Hi Harry, it was actually a Hanson Cab (horse drawn cab). Poor Bobby met his end in the town of Gosport, near Portsmouth.
@douglasherron7534
@douglasherron7534 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap It's a "Hansom Cab" (designed, and patented, by Joseph Hansom in 1834).
@jonathanharris1665
@jonathanharris1665 Жыл бұрын
Splendid , well played sir.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 11 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@richardkeilig4062
@richardkeilig4062 Жыл бұрын
What a story. Well done. Brave soldiers.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@georgehanna943
@georgehanna943 Жыл бұрын
Another fascinating video of with your usual ability to get an interesting side story too. Chris, I follow your videos but sometimes get confused whether a battle is in the Boer War, Zulu War and these battles took place. I know you give us dates etc but could you in one future video lay out in chronological order the various battles you have covered? Many thanks.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
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@allanburt5250
@allanburt5250 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic peace of history 👏 thanks for bring this one to us
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@jonathanmawdesley-thomas1863
@jonathanmawdesley-thomas1863 Жыл бұрын
Another great recounting of Imperial history … well done Chris , your style and intonation make all these events so compelling to listen too !
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
That’s very kind of you. Thanks for watching.
@davidwoods7720
@davidwoods7720 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much as always Chris
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.
@SgtGenDanbo
@SgtGenDanbo Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Excellent video. I was stationed at Maiwand with the US Army in 2008-2009 and was on the battlefield many times. I knew very little about the battle then, but have been fascinated with it ever since. Wonderful storytelling of such a pivotal moment in British and Afghan history!
@SunofYork
@SunofYork Жыл бұрын
I n October 1963, when Harold Macmillan was handing over the premiership to Alec Douglas-Home, he is supposed to have called the younger man to his office and passed on some reassuring advice. “My dear boy,” he said, “as long as you don't invade Afghanistan you'll be absolutely fine.”
@SgtGenDanbo
@SgtGenDanbo Жыл бұрын
I wish our politicians had paid more attention to history in that area. I’m glad to have served, but nobody’s conquered Afghanistan going back to the Macedonians. I wish it was peaceful there as there is a lot of interesting history there. Just south of the Maiwand battlefield is a fortress built by Alexander the Great, blown up Russian tanks etc. I remember finding random .303 casings in the desert as well. Evidence of hundreds of years of fighting all in a small area, would be a dream for an archeologist!
@SunofYork
@SunofYork Жыл бұрын
@@SgtGenDanbo 1889 303 or . 303 British was adopted by Britain along with the Lee - Metford Rifle in 1889. This round, as originally adopted, consisted of a 215 grain, round nosed, cupro nickel jacketed bullet in front of 71.5 grains of RFG2 Blackpowder.
@SgtGenDanbo
@SgtGenDanbo Жыл бұрын
Yes, I found those quite a ways away from the Maiwand battlefield in a small village. I suspect it was later production MkVII ammo probably used during the Soviet-Afghan war or during fighting in the 90s. Almost anywhere you go over there you can find evidence of prior fighting. Not uncommon to see Lee-Enfields, Martini-Henry's, Sniders etc. as well. @@SunofYork
@SunofYork
@SunofYork Жыл бұрын
@@SgtGenDanbo All the powers want Afghanistan so they can threated its neighbors.. No oil.. just geographical position...Now that rockets and planes and drones can fly over and do the job, it may become less important to hold it....
@philotown
@philotown Жыл бұрын
Excellent story Chris. I was wondering about the dog in the painting of the battle. Now we know. Thanks for another great illustration of our military history.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I love finding out the hidden stories. A bit like my recent (members) one about William Manle who was awarded the VC and the Iron Cross!
@davidnemoseck9007
@davidnemoseck9007 Жыл бұрын
Great story as always. And nice about the dog at the end. Love little details like that.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@wolfgangkranek376
@wolfgangkranek376 Жыл бұрын
Being bold and hesitant at the wrong moments, what could possibly go wrong?
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@stardrummy
@stardrummy Жыл бұрын
Yet another arousing and informative video; thanks again, Chris.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@andyjones6643
@andyjones6643 Жыл бұрын
Thanks another great video.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@simonkevnorris
@simonkevnorris Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting and informative video.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
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@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek Жыл бұрын
Excellent and Outstanding !!!!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@petersmithm9
@petersmithm9 Жыл бұрын
I spent 2 years attached to the DERRs, made up from the Berkshire and Wiltshire Regiments, and they celebrated this anniversary with a sports day.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences
@jb6027
@jb6027 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT, as always1
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed it
@Dav1Gv
@Dav1Gv Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. The regiment still marked Maiwand Day in the 1960s and I'm glad you included the story of Bobby.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@glynwilliams2333
@glynwilliams2333 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@ianbusby2845
@ianbusby2845 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s me but I found this very difficult to follow which is a shame as being from Reading I was keen to learn the story behind the Forbury Gardens Lion.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry that you found it hard to follow
@ianbusby2845
@ianbusby2845 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap have enjoyed others of yours 👍
@oc2phish07
@oc2phish07 Жыл бұрын
I recently visited Reading and saw the monument. Your video has brought the battle to life in my mind, a battle I was previously not aware of. Great channel.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I always like to see how History relates to a modern day, even if it’s just understanding why statues and memorials exist.
@jon9021
@jon9021 Жыл бұрын
Superb…as usual.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@kenemerson1075
@kenemerson1075 Жыл бұрын
well told!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@brianpine7086
@brianpine7086 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, since the dawn of time, in almost anywhere in the world, history always seems to repeat itself. Doesn’t say much for mankind 😂
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I think you may have a point
@patrickmullane30
@patrickmullane30 Жыл бұрын
I believe it was an ancestor of mine who won the Victory Cross there. ☘️
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@martbarclay7240
@martbarclay7240 Жыл бұрын
I lived in the Helmand valley in 1965 with my parents. Dad was with USAID . We visited the battle site. The Afghans had Graves laid out but the British dead had a field opium puppy's growing over them with no markers.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
@DeeplyStill
@DeeplyStill Жыл бұрын
In Shoreham-by-Sea, at the old church, is a big wall plaque commemorating the death of an officer in Afghanistan in 1875 (pretty sure that was the year). Always fascinated me as to what we were doing there. And why we bothered going back!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I think they’re going back is the big question
@fredazcarate4818
@fredazcarate4818 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir for your brilliant narrative of the Battle Of Maiwand. I was nearly at the edge of my seat. What a tale of bravery in the midst of chaos. Once again thank you and I await your next video lecture. 👍
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it it’s a story very few people know
@kaycey7361
@kaycey7361 Жыл бұрын
It was a defeat i agree. But on the long term it was a diplomatic and strategic victory. As by the end or 3rd anglo afghan war, the british gained more territory ( paktunistan, northwest india, the Ballochistan) from the afghan and also secured a alliance treaty that Afghanistan will not allow zarist russia to expans to indian borders. So its a outstanding british victory. Russia gained only central asia. No sea ports
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
History Chap, I was reading about the Taiping Rebellion and came across our old friend Charles "Chinese" Gordon defending Shanghai and that got me wondering. Are you planning on making videos that will cover the colonial wars in China? It seems like fertile ground that is right up the alley of this channel. In any case, I'm glad to see this channel grow over the last year and a half; it's still a gem, even if it isn't so much a "hidden gem" anymore. I still haven't come across a channel that has covered the Victorian Era Colonial Wars half so well.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, the colonial wars in China are on the cards! Just need to do it sensitively
@KapiteinKrentebol
@KapiteinKrentebol Жыл бұрын
Brittain: Please sign a treaty of friendship with us. Afganistan: We kindly decline. Brittain invades Afganistan. Maybe Brittain doesn't understand the meaning of friendship. 😂
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I think their view was "Be our friend not Russia's."
@bazkhan1134
@bazkhan1134 Жыл бұрын
Amazing story of Maiwand battle and a pain full defeat. But the lessons are still not leant . My whole family fought in both 1st and sect wars and many of them was not returned back bless their souls. Wars always bring miseries for ages to come. For soldiers ❤
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share
@alanpearson7554
@alanpearson7554 Жыл бұрын
Read "My God, Maiwand" by Leigh Maxwell, a fantastic read that also exposes some of the attempts by the British to blame Jacob's Rifles for Brigadier General Burrow's poor tactical decisions
@barryalexander2909
@barryalexander2909 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation. Another one to add to the never ending 'to read' list.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@cynthiaalver
@cynthiaalver Жыл бұрын
I love to study and learn the story behind memorial statues. I LOVE history and I want to know why it was so important to honor and memorialize a person, battle, war or pigeon (Cher Ami). Fascinating piece of human history.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to show your passion for History
@lib556
@lib556 Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in the orders from King George that no man who earned a VC may be stripped of it. Filip Konowal (the only Ukrainian born recipient of the VC) earned it at the 1917 Battle of Hill 70 (along with 5 other Canadians). He was serving in the 47th Bn CEF (Westminster Regt - later the Royal Westminster Regt). After the war, he settled in Canada's capital city, Ottawa (the Westies were are a west coast regt) following a job offer. He get into a struggle with an Austrian immigrant and killed him. When asked if felt remorseful he snapped, "I killed 20 Germans in the war. What's one more?" or words to that effect. He was convicted and stripped of his VC. It seems that must have been well after King George's orders to the contrary. After paying his debt to society, Konowal was released and his VC reinstated. He eventually worked at the Parliament building in Ottawa.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
What an amazing story. Thanks for sharing it.
@dillonhunt1720
@dillonhunt1720 Жыл бұрын
17:50 I heard Bobbie's regiment being renamed as the Royal Barkshires instead of Royal Berkshires and it gave me a laugh
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
You made me chuckle too!
@rev.dr.davidcole8915
@rev.dr.davidcole8915 Жыл бұрын
The British still suffer from aristocratic leadership versus meritocratic.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective
@greg_4201
@greg_4201 Жыл бұрын
I mean.... Kind of.... But it's a bit of a stretch to call our present goons aristocrats. And if you look elsewhere in the western world, you'll find exactly the same issues across all types of governments. The problem is that we have a purely political class that is completely soulless, spineless, selfserving, and slavish to Globalists/Zionists... Those aren't aristocratic traits. They are certainly aloof, entitled, privileged and detached from reality though... If anything they are Marxist inspired, whether they know it or not. But again, there is no example of a meritocracy in the west now.
@johnbobson1557
@johnbobson1557 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that is actually true today. Indeed in the RN over a third of officers are from the 'lower deck' (a historical term) and in the RAF we are now aware that you are positively discriminated against if you are White male. One of our most famous Field Marshals (Slim) served in every rank of the British Army from Private to Field Marshal.
@BMWtphs
@BMWtphs Жыл бұрын
What another great video! Thank you for doing a video on one of my favorite campaigns. The brave last stand by the 66th is so heroic and honorable, and one to be remembered. Hopefully one day I can see that memorial and pay my respects
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for both watching and taking the time to comment
@davidarchibald50
@davidarchibald50 Жыл бұрын
Taking a relatively small force onto an unreconnoitered plain, against an overwhelming force, has got to be one of the most genius of military tactics. Full of the righteous arrogance of the Victorian mind. Strange how it turned out. The Empire in decline is full of such yarns. The soldiers in these stories deserved better leaders than those that purchased their ruin.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment
@davidarchibald50
@davidarchibald50 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryChap Nothing really, Your contribution to my knowledge of our mutual history has been immeasurable.
@ludwigderzanker9767
@ludwigderzanker9767 Жыл бұрын
Great, greater, History Chap! Very interesting the amalgaming of the different troops. In his short stories the great Kipling suggested, the Afghans were jewish. Their were only Pashtuns, Uzbeks and Tadshiks, given a several number of Turkmens nobody look at more than the name of their country as Afghanistan. The dog reminded of Othris, the cockney soldier and dog stealer in Three Soldiers by our Rudyard...❤ Be so as you are, Chris! Ludwig
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Hi Ludwig, I’m glad you enjoyed this video. Have a great weekend
@shaungillingham4689
@shaungillingham4689 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Burrows made a complete hash of it. Against such a superior force he should have used the lay of the land to have fought a defensive battle, the ravines could have negated the enemies greater numbers, it's a old ploy but often successful. Not even poor old Bobby made it!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to watch and to comment
@Phaust13
@Phaust13 Жыл бұрын
As always, a great video! Thank you for covering this important, but, as you said, little known action. Among the dead of the 66th was the commanding officer, Lieutenant-Colonel Galbraith, who was killed as the Regiment withdrew towards Khig. He fell holding the Queen's Colours. I attended Reading University. The bus route from the station to the Uni passed by Forbury Gardens and the Maiwand Lion statue. Whenever I saw it, i would always remember the Battle of Maiwand and the last stand of the 66th.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Much appreciated.
@sentinel_Alphacentauri
@sentinel_Alphacentauri Жыл бұрын
was there no backlash to this constant British engagement in wars abroad and the untold sufferings and loses they brought to families back home? or was that era far less democratic, for the public to have a voice against it?
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
British soldiers not held in high esteem by british public for much of this period. Hence Kipling's "Tommy Atkins" poem. Also suggest "Wariors in Scarlet" by Ian Knight.
@TheSheepPimp
@TheSheepPimp Жыл бұрын
Goddamit, survive a battle in Afghanistan just to get ran over back home
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
In Gosport of all places!
@alexc6324
@alexc6324 Жыл бұрын
That was a great video thankyou. I am an ex Readingite and the significance of the Lion was well known to boys (not girls) from my generation (I am 48 and learnt about the lion and the battle in the 80s) but ofcourse Reading is now multicultural and the education system liberal so i agree that 90 percent of the town have no idea why its there or even that it exists. For me it was a delight to see the lions balls painted fluorescent pink (or was it orange) for a year or so and as teenagers we were always tempted to put a traffic cone on its head but what some might call vandalism we called affection. One well known fact about the Lion is that the man who sculpted it (i cant remember his name) got the lions legs wrong. Apparently they dont walk like that and the artist got so much shade about this gaff that he committed suicide (and that was pre-internet/social media harassment) but really no-one in Reading cares. Brock Barracks were still in operation in the 80's and 90's idk if they are now but a few of my friends did Army Cadets there. On Remembrance day the lion and the memorial with the names of the men who fell is the focus of a Poppy wreath laying ceremony. Forbury Park is where the lion is located and it sits right next to the ruins of Reading monastery (destroyed by Henry VIII) and there used to be a couple of large mounds in the park which were cannon emplacements from the civil war in the 17th century. The bandstand featured in your video was still there when i lived in reading and we used to sleep there if we decided not to go home after a night of partying. Quite comfortable. Sadly the park became a beacon for muggers and rapists and its also infamous for Muslims murdering gay people (i think that was in 2019) so I dont think it is much loved these days. Typical UK story. Thanks again for your videos please keep up the good work.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to post a comment too
@colrhodes377
@colrhodes377 Жыл бұрын
Another brilliant story . Afghanistan is a real pain in the backside to all invading armies. The British, Russians and Americans have been ripped apart by the fierce tribesmen and it's unlikely to ever change.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
So true. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@barryalexander2909
@barryalexander2909 Жыл бұрын
As an Afghanistan veteran, we weren't ripped apart. We were smashing the enemy. Unfortunately, governments and electorates baulked at the cost, the time needed to succeed and the erroneous perception that the human cost was too high and the effort not worth it. Political will evaporated and we walked away, abandoning our brave Afghan allies. The defeat was the politicians' not the soldiers'. Labour, Conservative, Republic, Democrat all complicit. Clausewitz's Trinity in action.
@barryalexander2909
@barryalexander2909 Жыл бұрын
Now waiting to be told to 'cope harder' by a spotty 15 year old virgin who thinks he knows about war from playing COD.😂
@colrhodes377
@colrhodes377 Жыл бұрын
@@barryalexander2909 🤣🤣
@mirwaiz9619
@mirwaiz9619 Жыл бұрын
you had the advantage by miles and still lost, so i will tell you to cope@@barryalexander2909
@John-ih2bx
@John-ih2bx Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the education. I know so little about the time period, many thanks for enlightening me.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@whicker59
@whicker59 Жыл бұрын
Ur accuracy, intensity, presentation skill, and thoroughness made a subscriber outta me. I'm very partial to little Bobbie's part of this story. TY to whom ever preserved his part n history.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support
@ronti2492
@ronti2492 Жыл бұрын
I beleive that Maywand is as well known in Afghanistan amongst Afghans as Waterloo or Stalingrad are known amongst their respective nations. It is a big deal- and they know that they were the victors.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I can imagine it is. There is a folklore story about an Afghan woman rallying the Afghans by waving her headscarf like a battle standard. Doubt the Taliban would approve!
@mirwaiz9619
@mirwaiz9619 Жыл бұрын
correct as a child i remember people telling me about it and reading about it in school
@zarakdurrani7584
@zarakdurrani7584 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheHistoryChapshe was called "Malalay of Maiwand" And we're proud of her 😊
@afgkhan3960
@afgkhan3960 2 күн бұрын
Yes Malala of Maiwand is our heroine she is always remembered as a brave lady our grandmothers always mention her in their strories many girls are named malala after her because its a honourable name for us infact my sister name is malala too
@daneedm2648
@daneedm2648 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video, have recently managed to get a copy of the book My God Maiwand so found this story fascinating. Look forward to watching your next video
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@invisibleray6987
@invisibleray6987 Жыл бұрын
I love that big ugly Lion 🦁, I used to go past it on my way to work. Gruesome battle, massive slaughter, glad the dog survived 🐶
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
And I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching.
@AlRedsoxFan
@AlRedsoxFan Жыл бұрын
Hope all is well take care Thanks for another wonderful video :-)
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
All good here. Thanks for watching.
@LaceandSteelchannel
@LaceandSteelchannel Жыл бұрын
I love it! Aaah -the great bard McGonnagall! "Oooooooooh - ’Twas at the disastrous battle of Maiwand, in Afghanistan, Where the Berkshires were massacred to the last man; On the morning of July the 27th, in the year eighteen eighty, Which I’m sorry to relate was a pitiful sight to see."
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
His poetry is nearly as bad as mine!
@FranciscoPreira
@FranciscoPreira Жыл бұрын
Another great video sir. Maiwand was indeed a great disaster for british colors, honor to the fallen, thanks for sharing. And a big "hurrah" for Bobbie!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis Жыл бұрын
Terrible defeat, how did the British Commander didn't know about the terrain and how many afghans' strong was the enemy army? This was an absurd understimation of the enemy and a severe lack of intelligence, given that such a force should be difficult to hide, expecially 3000 horsemen and 36(!) guns.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment
@simonfoden1684
@simonfoden1684 Жыл бұрын
Another battle they don't teach in British schools. Thanks Chris.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@slowturtle6745
@slowturtle6745 Жыл бұрын
Another prime example of why Afghanistan is known as the "Graveyard of Empires" and once again history repeats itself.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment
@pauloneil8531
@pauloneil8531 Жыл бұрын
Very good video and excellent story telling. As a retired museum educator I paused the video to look at your bookshelf, and was trying to see if there was any order to how the books were arranged. Can you share the method if any? Mine are all grouped by era.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, mine are grouped by size!
@russellcollins6718
@russellcollins6718 8 ай бұрын
I love the fact that you got the pronunciation of "Isandlwana"very nearly correct.Not easy to do. Kudos to you, from and old South African soldier
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 8 ай бұрын
I’m glad you liked my pronunciation. One of my Achilles heels, so always nice to know when I’ve got it nearly right.
@justinreilly6619
@justinreilly6619 Жыл бұрын
Gosh, another fantastic history lesson! 👏 The punchline at the end with the little dog is a real kicker.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@stuartpeacock8257
@stuartpeacock8257 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal detail of a largely unknown campaign and an unknown battle. Full of energy vigour and daring do in the best tradition of the Victorian Army
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@andrewsteele7663
@andrewsteele7663 Жыл бұрын
Good morning, Chris, I managed to sit, watch and listen with my first cup of coffee of the day. I was truly amazed at the decisions of Brigadier Burrows. I know from my time in the military the Artillery gunner's still to this day wear the white lanyard because of the loss of their guns. I really enjoyed the telling as always; I have added another monument to see to my bucket list when we travel back to visit. Please keep the stories coming. Thank you.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of your support
@wilsontheconqueror8101
@wilsontheconqueror8101 Жыл бұрын
Great coverage of British Involvement in Afghanistan! That land has mauled armies all the way back to Alexander the Greats,the British, the Russian, & the Americans. One U.S. soldier stated "the rocks shoot at you". Fascinating history! From across the pond Well done! 🇺🇸
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching.
@zaland2936
@zaland2936 2 ай бұрын
This is only one side of the coin, the reality of what happened is taught in our school. They don't know anything about Malala, the Afghan girl who was the main reason for success of this battle. In order to eliminate the Malala's status another Malala was found and given the title and noble prize but for us the real Malala will always live...
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching my video & your feedback
@sirfox950
@sirfox950 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd love to see one about the true story behind Kipling's poem Ford o' Kabul River
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I like that suggestion. Could be fun researching it.
@barukkazhad8998
@barukkazhad8998 Жыл бұрын
As an ex RGBW soldier, thanks
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@nsanity7431
@nsanity7431 Жыл бұрын
I was searching for something like this narrative from a British researcher, There are hundreds of of poetic verses in our language, recently one of my friend named his baby boy as Maiwand....I have seen a dozen of paintings about his war at Fort Balahisar...I thought there was at least one unit of Scots or Irish ....since in the paintings they are wearing their Kelt.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
I think the pictures might be depicting, the Scots at the battle of Kandahar
@Qasim2411
@Qasim2411 6 ай бұрын
There is a whole district of Maiwand in Kandahar, Maiwand is A prestigious name given to Afghan boys mostly in living deep in Afghan valleys ❤️ we Afghan have absolute respect for who died For us in Maiwand , also Malala is the name contacted to Maivand
@nsanity7431
@nsanity7431 6 ай бұрын
@@Qasim2411 Za pukhtoon yum rora 🚩❤️🚩
@byron8657
@byron8657 Жыл бұрын
As an English writer has described about the three Anglo-Afghan War where can you find a Soldier fighter where when he sees and aim at the muzzle of his gun he sees heaven opening on him with 12 virgins awaiting on him! K
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment
@DarrenMarsh-kx8hd
@DarrenMarsh-kx8hd Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that HM Queen Victoria presented that little dog with a medal. But what a disaster for the British & Indians.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Darren, thanks for your support
@jacqueslevard7218
@jacqueslevard7218 Жыл бұрын
Hello from France... excellent ! Thank you.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@michaelciemnoczolowski9051
@michaelciemnoczolowski9051 Жыл бұрын
Riveting, as always. Thank you for yet another in a long line of captivating presentations.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support
@jeffsmith2022
@jeffsmith2022 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have thought that 6 batteries of artillery would have so many guns Chris...My younger son did a tour in Afghanistan, US Army. many years ago...
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment
@edhodapp6465
@edhodapp6465 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I think of Churchill and the Malakand Field Force. Perhaps purely punitive expeditions against the Afghans are the only way to deal with them. Enough of nation building. Also, I believe that dogs are the greatest proof that there is a God that is interested in us humans. What a marvelous and totally different species to have as companions on this Earth!
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Malakand Field Force tends to prove your point. Containment and some punitive actions marked later 19th century policy.
@dipakgurung8602
@dipakgurung8602 11 ай бұрын
Would like to know about the siege of Delhi in 1857
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 11 ай бұрын
This is one I made a few months ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnTaooqjfbWBpbc
@dipakgurung8602
@dipakgurung8602 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Any coverage of the battle of Hindu Rao's House which cemented friendship between RGJ and 2 GR, please?
@londonbudgetgardner5205
@londonbudgetgardner5205 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video The Battle that created the nationalism of Afghanistan. Why did the British lose and why did the Afghan win so decisively? The Afghan soldiers had no real international military experience but they beat the best army in the world in an open battle. The Afghan warriors are the bravest and are indomitable. They haven’t lost since ? Who is next going into Afghanistan ? A one way ticket please 😅.
@Lassisvulgaris
@Lassisvulgaris Жыл бұрын
Seems Taliban made it, but they are Afghans, too....
@doverbeachcomber
@doverbeachcomber Жыл бұрын
China will be the next visitor, I expect. The PLA may succeed where other armies have failed because their leaders won’t hesitate to eliminate the entire Afghan population if that’s what it takes to succeed. There will be no nonsense about winning hearts and minds or leading the country into the 21st century. They want Afghanistan’s mineral resources and the advantages of its geographical position; the Afghan options will come down to submission or annihilation.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
@glennberry4829
@glennberry4829 Жыл бұрын
Early in the video I thought it likely that one of Kipling's poems was about this battle. But I'm surprised that you said it is That Day. I was thinking of another.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to show your thoughts
@johnl.5117
@johnl.5117 6 ай бұрын
"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier......." Rudyard Kipling.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching my video & for taking the time to comment.
@MrPmutley
@MrPmutley Жыл бұрын
Not the same as " Greyfairs Bobby " ?? :-)
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
No, Greyfriars, Bobby lived in Edinburgh
@colincampbell4261
@colincampbell4261 Жыл бұрын
Britain seems to have had some seriously stupid officers.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
A fair few. Also some pretty brave ones in there too.
@harveyquirke6376
@harveyquirke6376 Жыл бұрын
That must. Have. Been. A big. Day. Out
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment
@lesliepun3494
@lesliepun3494 Жыл бұрын
Riveting stuff as usual. Thank you, Chris.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@ssa6227
@ssa6227 11 ай бұрын
Shame that lessons were never learnt and their lives were wasted. So many Americans had to die to have finally sent the lesson home. Shame Afghans never hd any respite.
@PMMagro
@PMMagro 23 күн бұрын
Great presentation. Imagine today how big The British Raj whoudl be. India alone the worlds largest population. Pakistan, Bangladesh not small nations by any measure either... Given that victorian Britain and teh Soviet Union had failed it was rather ...high odds to go in again 2001.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching my video & your interesting feedback.
@petermaas4455
@petermaas4455 Жыл бұрын
TY so much. As always very interesting
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@azamkhan3136
@azamkhan3136 2 ай бұрын
Strange to notice you didn't mention Malala of maiwand, she was the reason, a loosing battle turn into victory. She grasp the flag and shouted "ohh the young loves, if you didn't died in this battle of maiwand, by God someone is saving you as symbol of shame". She was 18-19 year old a daughter of shepherd. She is an honourable entity for pakhtoons and there are many institutions name after her. The battle of maiwand is remembered by pakhtoon for this legendary lady only.
@TheHistoryChap
@TheHistoryChap 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment.
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