Rantanen Traded to Carolina, Colorado Gets Necas and Drury, Hawks Send Hall to Canes

[@shanelocke5504]

My jaw DROPPED to the floor when I saw this. Arguably the biggest trade we've seenin a while

[@nonoman305]

Probably since tkachuk trade, but also more unexpected, so the last out of the blue trade of this magnitude is probably Weber

[@thehighlanders607]

I agree, this is a blockbuster and THG is right, Carolina won this deal. Necas is a solid player but Rantanen is on another level.

[@99Stams]

I'd argue that

[@petrblazek6051]

@@thehighlanders607but if rantanen does not extend, they traded Nečas for a rental which is crazy, because they dont have contender level team

[@grants7278]

@@petrblazek6051 Yeah, I think a lot of this depends on Rants resigning and for how much.

[@TheMoonBandit]

I was not expecting this massive trade

[@philemard6183]

@@TheMoonBandit You know what else is still MASSIVE?

[@Graphichorizon]

i was. Paying him more than Canadian stars. Never in this universe.

[@beardstreet]

A low taper fade

[@Weektoweekhockey]

Chicago feels like the litte brother who wanted to play and got the unplugged controller

[@thebigpicture2032]

Yeah, they give up Hall and pay millions of retained salary for a third?

[@jamesboley573]

@@thebigpicture2032I’m so confused

[@williamford9564]

@@thebigpicture2032 It was their own third which they got back after a previous trade with the Canes. And they were not going to spend that money this year anyway and Hall was not going to re sign. It comes back on the books for the 25-26 season.

[@JesterRace139]

@@williamford9564 I'm just giving you a thumbs up for not writing "resign"

[@Neruson-qi3vl]

Frees up space for the kids and at this point in Hall's career the Hawks probably wouldn't even have gotten third rounder for him without retaining salary in this deal.

[@InsignificantNick]

When Elliotte tweeted out that Rantanen was on the move, I had to make sure it was actually his account.

[@JakeKindr]

The pause when you tried thinking of "good players" on Colorado after Mckinnon killed me.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

My brain wanted me to say Landeskog and I knew that was incorrect at this time.

[@kyledouglas1394]

This illustrates my concern as an Avs fan. I don't count Nichushkin or especially Landeskog as in the future of the team

[@MaxSoininen]

​@@kyledouglas1394 Lehkonen is great, biased from his time in Frölunda. Not a star player though.

[@jessearmstrong6583]

@@kyledouglas1394 lehky drou colton ritchie loc drury necas.... yeah the avs are fine..

[@alu.304]

Lehky, Toews, this kid named Makar............are you guys being serious?????

[@Silenceaverted]

Can't wait for the Blackhawks tribute video for Rantanen

[@TheFusionmix]

I think Necas is going to be phenomenal in Colorado but it's hard not to see Carolina winning this.

[@11DNA11]

Don't count out the picks. Avs draft well with either one, then they might take the win on this. Drury isn't a slouch either. A good b6 guy that every team needs.

[@jugaloking69dope58]

they are slowly rotating their roster

[@jimlittle5769]

Maybe this year but then Mikko might be gone. Necas has one more year.

[@drewmcpheeters3424]

We'll see. It will be interesting to see how the Moose does without the Dawg feeding him assists.

[@roezak]

Necas is a turnover machine. We’re going to see how that plays the Colorado’s ghastly defense.

[@teagansmale6852]

Chicago gets 4 more Winter Classics

[@timdowney6721]

Better than having a "Winter Classic" in Florida.

[@Cynon]

the last thing Chicago wants -- more winter classics that they can lose in

[@edtierney6076]

No

[@pensavspatsfandom98]

Good luck in Carolina, Mikko! Welcome to the Colorado Avalanche, Martin Necas!

[@steppingtotheam281]

You won’t be disappointed

[@Jon_the_Wizard]

Take good care of him. Dude rocks.

[@kuningaskolassas4720]

Necas sucks ass and will be spending most of his time in Colorado bouncing between line 2 and 3.

[@soulknife20]

​@@kuningaskolassas4720Necas does not suck ass.

[@EtopiaCA]

@@kuningaskolassas4720 Found the Finnish Colorado fan.

[@SilvercatZen]

Necas wanted out at the end of last season... it just took him a little while to achieve it. Withholding judgment until I see how the new guys fit into Rod's system.

[@11DNA11]

Rantanen fits in any system tbh. He's way too smart to not adapt to a new system.

[@Christ_Is_The_King777]

@@11DNA11 That's being generous. He is one dimensional. They might have to adapt to his play style. Which is cherry picking and waiting for one timers, while MacKinnon and Makar make plays. He has a great shot and a good build, and he played with the best players in the NHL. We will see how he does without MacKinnon and Makar.

[@LARGO125]

Rantenan is a monster. He was a beast when McKinnon was on the shelf. Canes should be happy.

[@pritok6]

rantanen is monster but lazy during regular season. he doesn't play much D. it gets much better during play off. as an avs fan I am pretty shocked I expected him to sign for like 12.5 or something like that. Now I have to give up an idea that I will see mack, mikko, and landy on the same line. avs now have almost 6 mil cap space I am curious what they will do next.

[@milanek1527]

​@@Christ_Is_The_King777inaccurate. On tactixhd's video, he brought up a stat sheet that said he's point per game without mackinnon.

[@soadfan1016]

Will be interesting to see where Rantanen signs in the off season

[@aaGit]

he has the opportunity to do the funniest thing here, if the Avs have the cap space.

[@sportsfan1717]

Canes have a ton of money coming off the cap. I don't think they'd trade their top point guy if they weren't committed to re-signing him.

[@nummytacos128]

Minnesota is a very interesting option. They have a ton of cap space next season. Canes would be crazy to let him get to free agency though.

[@mdd47]

Between Necas, Burns, Orlov and Andersen, Canes are clearing about $28 million off their books for next season. which makes signing Rantanen long term for $12 million a year a no brainer. If he wants to stay

[@timetowakeup6302]

The only way Colorado could fit him under the cap as if they didn’t have Landeskog still on the books.

[@LittleMountainLife]

Where’s the review video?!

[@f.n04]

😅

[@timdowney6721]

There's always one.....😂

[@charleyhorse1864]

made me COL (chuckle out loud)

[@EDunn21]

Good one lmao

[@godawful5600]

If the Canes can’t extend him this will be bad. I’m stressed when I should be stoked. Guentzel flashbacks

[@CarolinaBuckrush]

They had such a chaotic free agency last offseason but now they have a lot of cap space with Orlov and Burns leaving and guys in ELCs coming up.

[@closethockeyfan5284]

Aw, come on now--it worked out fine for both teams. Say, Don, can we interest you in Marcus Pettersson and Emil Bemstrom for multiple top prospects and drafts picks?

[@SirManfly]

@@CarolinaBuckrush Orlov, Burns, Anderson, Roslovic are the main guys that are UFA's and if Carolina plays their cards right and lets most of these guys go, then they could easily afford to pay Rantanan the $14+ mil/per that his agent apparently is demanding ! They HAVE TO sign him in my opinion because Carolina has always needed that one star player that could put them over the top and Rantanan is that player ! They cannot let him walk this summer !!

[@CarolinaBuckrush]

@@SirManfly I mean Fast will also be gone among other players. Puckpedia says their offseason cap projection is a little over $31 million before the cap even rises so that could be well more than $31 million to resign him and some other players than won’t be replaced by guys on ELCs like needing a new goalie.

[@GoalHornGeek]

Tulsky said he’s not too worried if they can’t get a deal done since they have about 40M in cap space. Necas was at about 6.5 and still has another year left

[@Theon435]

As a Devil I am not happy, the first round of the playoffs just got even harder.

[@chinmayhejmadi7902]

Yeah this makes the East that much stronger, and it makes Winnipeg and Dallas breathe a sigh of relief in the Central

[@4517onlyglory]

You may face caps the first round then

[@thelochnessmonster.350]

Yeah, we are big screwed between this and the Marky MCL tear.

[@Maria_Banks]

Meh, Mikko can be very lazy from time to time. I would not worry about it

[@CP-fz2mn]

I don't know how to feel about this as an Avs fan....

[@jbusteratgmailcom]

I don't feel terrible. It is a very good return for a player that was headed out for nothing.

[@DonovanRios88]

you're not alone

[@kyledouglas1394]

Sad...

[@stevie-pea]

Me as well . Is this a case of greed ? I know many will say , yeah but so & so is making X$ . There's only so much a team can do cap wise . The future ... maybe 4 $tuds per team , surrounded by minor leaguers and vets winding down their careers . I'm afraid there won't be any or very few players who spend their whole career with one team . Money makes the world go round .

[@mcj44]

Until Rantanen puts pen on paper in Carolina, I think it’s unfair to have any happy or sad feelings as of right now.

[@kellywebber5800]

Off-season should be interesting this time around. Burns and Orlov contracts will be done. Canes will have plenty of money this time unlike the Guentz fiasco last Off-season.

[@CarolinaBuckrush]

They also have a bunch of guys in ELCs coming up and $31 million projected cap space

[@closethockeyfan5284]

Bunting for two-plus years, Ponomarev, Lucius rights, Koivunen, and a second, all for a few months of a point-per-game sniper. Thank you very much. Wonderful doing business with you. Please don't hesitate to call again soon.

[@JayDeeMC]

I was NOT expecting to see Rantanen traded.

[@theScotian24]

Ok, but the writing was on the wall.

[@JayDeeMC]

@@theScotian24 I don't pay attention to what's going on with the Avs, so it's news to me.

[@steppingtotheam281]

Canes fan here. I’m not upset. 😅😅😅😅

[@Guitarzan8]

Same here. With a GP, G, A record like that, he (rantanen) was one of the key players to make the playoffs this year. I don’t know everything , but it looks like a hasty move that shouldn’t have happened until after the season is over.

[@Boris_Chang]

Canes needed a power forward. Already have a couple of skilled “little guys”. Time to start beefing up the lineup. The playoffs are such a different beast-a physical grind. Canes made a great move here. The mad data scientist Eric Tulskey strikes.

[@MingTongPang54]

I was not expecting Marty Necas and Jack Drury to be move quite honestly.

[@GoodMenstruationAttitude]

Yeah the Avs made out

[@C.M.Giordano]

Avs fan: I like the trade. If we couldn't sign Mikko, we had to get something for him. Necas, Drury and some picks isn't a bad return.

[@godawful5600]

Necas is a great add right now and Drury is a solid 4th liner with good work ethic. Even though it’s impossible to fill the hole Mikko leaves, y’all didn’t do bad at all.

[@11DNA11]

@@godawful5600 Hole can't be filled, as you don't really get players like Rantanen on your team very often. BUT the Avs are better overall right now. As they got a good bottom 6 guy AND a top 6 guy, who can probably play wing for MacKinnon

[@coryharder191]

​@11DNA11 agreed However look at the points difference. Necas is comparable to Mikko right now, if he can continue the upward trend. Avs will be fine.

[@LARGO125]

One can only hope Landeskog is almost ready. But after 2 years off, what can the expectations be?

[@davidlyons6235]

​@@LARGO125 well he's never been a Rantanen and now he's trying to get over a career ending injury to return after 2 years? Outlook does not look good.

[@neeltheother2342]

Hearing THG struggle to find a name after MacKinnon is pretty funny. We're all used to saying "MacKinnon, Rantanen..." when talking about the Avs.

[@HexagonalMan6]

I was just thinking about that earlier today. Wild.

[@jimlittle5769]

yeah, like it's hard to remember Makar...

[@freedom_fighter4317]

​@@jimlittle5769THG couldn't remember the best defenceman in the world's name....because he lives in Vancouver and thinks Hughes is better.....silly Canuck fans. Hughes will be golfing in April.

[@jimlittle5769]

@@freedom_fighter4317 funny, I just wrote the same thing. That's hilarious we thought the same thing at same time 🙂

[@dribbIegod]

@@freedom_fighter4317makar sucks, he’s soft and overrated. Hughes is 70x better than him

[@tbell61]

THG is my go-to for honest NHL analysis. Thanks for getting this up so quickly.👍🏿

[@Jackie_Shriek]

As an islanders fan I totally understand this trade for the Avs. Clearly rantanen wasn’t gonna sign and they traded him before he could walk. It’s what the islanders should’ve done with tavares. Yeah it sucks, but this is smart business by sakic

[@11DNA11]

Agree. Better to sell when you can still get something from him. Instead of losing him in the offseason.

[@skiinggator]

Isles need to get something for Nelson

[@devackroyd]

Not super related, but I have seen this mistake come up lots since they won the cup, but Sakic isn't the Avs GM, hasn't been since the 2021-2022 season. He is President of Hockey Ops

[@Joe-t3r9u]

Sakic isn't the GM anymore

[@joshuabrownell3993]

@@Joe-t3r9upeople will assume Sakic is the GM for years to come lol

[@FH99]

I was surprised when I saw Tweets on Twitter (I still call it that) that Rantanen got traded to Carolina. This trade certainly qualifies as a blockbuster.

[@jondrake1977]

Biggest trade since the Tkachuk/Gaudreau trade.

[@nickderosa175]

Really I was thinking this is the biggest trade since Karlsson got traded to the Sharks

[@tiffanynaidoo2003]

Tkachuk didn't get traded for Gaudreau doggy dog

[@timells1729]

I think you meant to say Tkachuk/ Huberdeau trade😊

[@biffdanielson2820]

@timells1729 just a bunch of French names. Does it really matter? 🤣

[@johannespitkamaki1369]

And now other one is dead

[@AvsHockeyMan]

The hard truth is Mikko was going to be a free agent at the end of the season. Avs don’t have the cap space to pay Mikko what he’s worth and (now this is where I sprinkle in thoughts and speculation) unless Mikko was willing to accept less there was no way the Avs could get a deal done. Not to mention the possibility of remaining under the superstar shadow of MacKinnon and Makar. So I think they traded him now so they got something in return for him, instead of failing to come to a deal and letting him walk at the end of the season. Maybe my speculation is spot on, maybe it’s way off. Overall with the 2 draft picks added just a couple minutes ago, I think the trade is a good one. I think Necas will fit in well. I don’t know much about Jack Drury to be honest. It’s a tough one to wrap our heads around, but at this time, that’s the best wrapping job I can do.

[@parkerfurr7338]

I think you guys will like Drury. Some finishing left to be desired no doubt but he is an amazing shot blocker and wins draws.

[@FrankM-u1w]

​@@parkerfurr7338 shot blocking is nice, I swear the Avs could care less about faceoffs except in their own zone. Most of our centers haven't been good on the draw.

[@FrankM-u1w]

Can't pay MacKinnon Makar and Rants $15 million each, so we got something for him. Rants is a good player, but I think he's been overhyped and being with MacKinnon helps everyone because they really need 2 defenders on him most of the time.

[@Skynertia]

How many trades in the last 25 years come even close to this? The Tkachuk-Weegar-Huberdeau trade, Subban for Weber, and Yashin for Chara are about it...

[@EetuTurusta]

Maybe Thornton and Karlsson trades to San Jose with those?

[@ryans413]

Hall-Larson deal was big at the time that same year PK was traded for Shea Webber.

[@4517onlyglory]

Rantanen>Tkachuk or Huberdeau every single day. Jumbo Joe is the closest

[@GG-ng6zm]

⁠@@4517onlyglory huberdeau maybe since hes fallen a lot but tkatchuk is a way more complete player

[@kuningaskolassas4720]

Except those trades involved big names going both ways. Necas is a poor man's chris kunitz.

[@PassingDrill]

Carolina has ~$31 Million in cap space this offseason and that's without the cap going up. They can afford to hand Rantanen a blank check if they wish.

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

So they want to be the Leafs 2.0?

[@Rain.34.89]

@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Name one player on the Canes with a cap hit above 10M.

[@EetuTurusta]

@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Please, their cap structure is nothing like the Leafs. Aho is signed long-term with 9,75, Jarvis 7,4 and Slavin 6,4 and Svechnikov for 7,75 for a few seasons. Those are the only guys that have contract for next year over 5 million. A BIT different compered to Leafs...

[@fjb1fjb]

Wild will get him

[@DennieWilliamson]

What a trade I nearly combusted when I saw it Welcome Moose Gonna miss u Necas 😢

[@winring5593]

The Canes will have a TON of cap space next season minus Burns and Orlov AND the cap is going up. If Rantanen wants to sign in Carolina the money is going to be there. Tulsky thought this one through.

[@theScotian24]

Yea it's pretty impressive that a GM can understand his upcoming cap situation..

[@HI-hr5up]

The Canes got probably one of the best players they've ever had on a roster with Mikko. Extremes excited to see him in a Canes jersey. And yeah, the jokes about resigning are valid until we actually do it. Can't imagine though that the brain trust makes such a blockbuster trade without having a solid plan in place to reign at what he wants. And Colorado is getting a guy that will fit their system extremely well. He should net 80-90 points with the way Colorado plays.

[@KenThomasDOTus]

Ron Francis and Eric Staal would like to have a word with you about that "best player they've ever had" part.

[@closethockeyfan5284]

Can't imagine that the brain trust makes such a blockbuster trade for Guentzel without having a solid plan in place to re-sign at what he wants

[@ewf8297]

@@KenThomasDOTusRantanen is pretty comfortably a better player than E. Staal. While Francis will probably end up with a better legacy, he was definitely past his prime in Carolina. Rantanen will be the best hockey player Raleigh has ever seen.

[@kuningaskolassas4720]

Necas sucks ass and we don't want him. Should trade him for a 7th round pick.

[@Angelina_M_Rose]

I was insanely excited to welcome mikko but when I realized we were giving up two of my favorite players. Tears fell

[@dtmuffinman]

Underrated aspect of this is Rantanen teams up with Aho. The Finnish connection very well could go a BIG way in keeping Rantanen in Raleigh.

[@martin9202]

Colorado! Hats down! Love the trade! They knew whey cannot afford Rantanen and didn't want to keep him as a rental and got 2 younger (but in their prime) players! This is kind of trade I was talking about when it comes to Toronto... You don't get direct replacement for your top guy, but you spread the money and bolster your line up! Now wanna see Carolina vs Coloroda in the final :D

[@rikbite7191]

As an avs fan this one hurts because i think we got worse this year. But Some of your teams moves have to be made to be better in the future and this was one of them. Painful but sometimes its gotta be done

[@martin9202]

@ well, first of all I don’t think they’re done… and secondly, lot of depends on Landeskog situation. Carolina is all in, they have to win, they’re kind of running out of time. Colorado won and has the superstars to build around. Spreading the quality through out the roster is the key. I like the deal, and overall I don’t think Colorado got worse.

[@Michael-hq1iq]

I don't see Carolina going far in the playoffs , they will be long gone before the finals

[@rbrucerye]

Nils Juntorp is also in the deal

[@rhyta5042]

WHO?? 🙄

[@Wayf4rer]

@@rhyta5042 Nils Juntorp

[@robmyckatyn]

yeah....that is worth at least a bag of pucks

[@mikecascone3579]

What was chicago’s role in this trade other than getting bullied?

[@Shags_98]

Been waiting for Shannon’s video on this trade!

[@theScotian24]

Well you couldn't have waited very long.

[@Shags_98]

@ a few KZbinrs I watch uploaded first and such, but was looking forward to Shannon’s specifically.

[@caniac7237]

Me too!

[@hannahh_Eliza]

This was a gut punch

[@at-anq]

thx for the breakdown of the trade

[@mastertonef]

I'm surprised that Rantanen is gone from Colorado.

[@theScotian24]

K

[@captbloodbeard]

Wondering if Chicago is planning on doing an offersheet for someone this offseason, which is why they got their draft pick back

[@user-mo6dv9er6g]

Highly unlikely a 3rd round pick is needed for the offer sheet

[@csolivais1979]

​@user-mo6dv9er6g any offer sheet given over 4.5 million dollars involved a 3rd round pick.

[@Mainline-the-endorphin-vein]

So Hawks offload Taylor hall who had a contract a bit higher than Rantanen’s half salary, all for a 2025 3rd overall draft pick? I’m not sure that I get it. So they lose the player now for a draft pick next year? Seems a bit weak from a deal perspective.

[@11DNA11]

@@user-mo6dv9er6g You need it for a 1,5m to 2,3m range player.

[@11DNA11]

@@Mainline-the-endorphin-vein Not really. They're not making the playoffs, so offloading a veteran like Hall for a pick is a good thing.

[@vipeholmskolan6052]

This is a crazy trade and makes total sense at the same time.

[@GettysburgLentz]

Losing Mikko hurts. Trading a Top 10 Forward and easily a 100 point player is never going to feel great. As an Avalanche fan I want to see what they do next. One thing is for certain, the Colorado Front Office is not afraid to take big swings. The problem is that taking big swings can lead to a strike out.

[@steppingtotheam281]

Necas is a showstopper. Not everyone has seen it yet. As a Canes fan, this could work out for both teams.

[@thekreal8703]

​@@steppingtotheam281Necas isn't close to Mikko...you won the trade.

[@steppingtotheam281]

@@thekreal8703 Not unless we can extend his contract. Otherwise, he’s just a rental. But this deal had to be done. The Avs couldn’t just let him walk. You didn’t just get a bag of pucks.

[@rikbite7191]

@@steppingtotheam281 As an avs fan I can say its a trade that needed to happen if we wernt able to talk mikko into a team friendly extension. Im not upset with mikko though. The guy might actually be underrated. 2 seasons ago the avs went like a month and a half with so many injuries that everyone was calling us the colorado eagles. Mikko absolutely put the backpack on and his number went up. Most people thought they would go down without mack and makar. Guy is really really good

[@thekreal8703]

The goal being a 2025 Stanley Cup right? You won the deal.

[@Jonathan-xt6jw]

Avs have been a top flight organization for 8+ years, but they screwed up BIG here.

[@ryans413]

This just makes no sense for Colorado

[@windsolarupnorth7084]

Avs dug their own grave with this noone can earn more than MacKinnon crap. They are going to regret this trade big time.

[@Awright121_]

As a Sabres fan, needle moving trades seem fun. Hope to be part of one someday

[@GizmoBeach]

Hopefully not the retaining salary just to acquire someone who makes Necas look like McDavid.

[@qp2044]

I would be lying to say I am not gutted, and think if the front office was more proactive they could have gotten a deal done before Edmonton blew the market. I also would have expected a better return for Mikko, not that Necas is a bad player but I would have expected more. All that said they had to trade him if they were that far off on a deal, but the Avs are a worse tonight than they were this morning

[@theScotian24]

Well, AVS didn't have the leverage because everyone knew they weren't going to be able to sign him. So, given that, it's a pretty good return.

[@rikbite7191]

Also a team isnt going to sell the farm on a guy with 30 games left on his contract. Whoever got mikko had to account for the big bucks they are gonna have to pay him in the offseason. Or lose him altogether.

[@michaelsaunders334]

I'm just confused with Chicago, getting rid of a player and taking on retention for only a single pick.

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Hall was a bad fit and with guys like Nazar ready to play big minutes, they needed to get rid of him is my guess.

[@gaboumachine4486]

Just went to see Hall's cap space and it is 6m, they got rid of a heavy contract (but also ending this year), so thats probably why

[@robmyckatyn]

@@gaboumachine4486 not much of a gain they are paying 4.75 million for no player to Rantanen

[@WaddickLawnCare]

Chicago saves over 1 million due to this trade and got a pick for it. I’m surprised they didn’t have to retain on hall cause he’s maybe worth 2 mill atm

[@kevinmassey1164]

Where is the nightly review video!

[@Wlightning25]

I was hoping the return for Hall and taking on the salary would be better for the Hawks. Hall had his moments where he went a couple games where he got points and looked good and then he had streaks of disappearing. I wish him well though and hope he can have an impact on the Canes.

[@theScotian24]

Right because he's finished. He can pull off a moment here and there but he is one foot out the door.

[@gerardfraser]

wow what a trade,canes not messing around

[@timdowney6721]

Drury looks like he's pretty reliable in the face-off circle....something the Avs struggle with frequently. That could make him more valuable as part of this trade.

[@nanceusmc]

If we can sign him to an extension, this is the player the Canes have been looking for since Eric Staal.. Solid A trade.. A++ with an extension..

[@LACROSSEFAN654]

Great video!! Easy to understand and get the perspectives. Thanks!!

[@maranatha9924]

Send Crosby over! Avs have the cap space now.

[@suzukininja24]

I was refreshing for a THG review and got a trade video instead

[@stephen9609]

If the Leafs aren't close to signing Marner, do they do something similar?

[@MarkCMG]

Thanks for the video! Good info, details, and insights! I would not have thought Necas would be moved. Blackhawks clear two spots and absorb $5M for another pick. I think everyone did well in this deal.

[@jugaloking69dope58]

col got some youngsters Chicago helped with the cap and hurricanes are all in for this year, no one loses but the bystanders(canucks)

[@MarkCMG]

@@jugaloking69dope58 I think Necas will turn out to be the best player involved in this deal.

[@WaddickLawnCare]

@@MarkCMGChicago actually saves over a million dollars for the 3rd round pick. Hall 6 mill out Rant 4.7 ish mill in Savings 1 ish mill

[@MarkCMG]

@@WaddickLawnCare Indeed. Just the point I was making last night to another Blackhawks buddy who didn't see the wisdom of the deal.

[@butcherpete2286]

Wheres the review video at??

[@doomslayerdave]

As a Canes fan....I'm blown away. Rantanen has had 3 seasons of 90+ points. Trading Necas is a risk because he was looking really solid. But Rantanen is only 2 years older and proven. Didn't have to give up a 1st round pick. Glad it happened earlier than the Guentzel trade last year.

[@SilvercatZen]

Aho now has 6 months to convince him to stay! GET TO IT, FISHY!!

[@captnslack]

@@doomslayerdave Let’s it works out better in the long run than that did.

[@Vicrattleskull2028]

Does Hall have anything left?

[@WhamBang]

Rantanen isn't worth 14 million dollars under Jared Bednar. He might be worth 14 million dollars if Brind'Amour can beat some drive/motivation/whathaveyou into him so he stops playing lazy, taking shifts off, and getting bodied off the puck by smaller players. MacKinnon drives play through his speed; Nichushkin drives play through forechecking; does Rantanen drive play?

[@Nate-vq8wy]

Dude spot on! theres nights where you watch Mikko and your like hes a top ten player in this leage and other nights its like wheres the effort my guy!?!? And god he lets smaller players bully him way too much... lets see how both players do 🤔

[@exeter1985]

Does this force the hand of any other teams to make a deal?

[@TheGatrGamr]

I'm confused with what the Hawks were doing here. Retaining cap plus giving up Hall for a 3rd round pick? It seems like they get fleeced to me. Carolina I think did the best in this trade but Colorado did pretty good as well. Poor Bedard now has even less offence with him on the Hawks now to.

[@theScotian24]

"Giving up Hall" isn't a thing. Ridding themselves of him, is.

[@havenless3551]

They have plenty of cap space, so they’re essentially just paying for the pick which isn’t terrible

[@robmyckatyn]

@@havenless3551 no they dont. according to Spotrac they only had 600,000 space before the trade. this gains them 1.25 million more in space

[@TheGatrGamr]

@theScotian24 he's on an expiring contract and was 5th in scoring for the team. The team did not have to get rid of him. Carolina must think they can do something with him. Flipping for assests was always going to happen. He should be worth the third by himself. The cap retention could be worth a 2nd based on previous trades. I don't get what Chicago was doing.

[@mrfreezer4242]

@@TheGatrGamr Hall was maybe worth a 4th. Hes being severly overvalued. Hawks have endless cap room right now so their money isnt as easy to leverage, also they save a retention slot by getting halls contract out clean(instead of retaining mikko and then also having to retain on hal in a likely later trade). They gain a roster spot for their very promising prospect pool to try to win. I think they did fine. nothing crazy but theyre a rebuilding team brokering a deal, they get a high 3rd round pick for a guy who was worth less and not coming back.

[@sc0ttyw0tty]

I just named my new doggo Mikko as an Av's fan... shoot

[@thipan15]

Carolina also got Nils Juntorp...and Chicago getting their own 3rd back might be a move to do an offer sheet in the summer.

[@11DNA11]

Who makes offer sheets that require a 3rd pick :D It's a player who makes 1,5m to 2,3m a year. Not anything major.

[@thipan15]

@11DNA11 i think above 7m you need your own 1st, 2nd and 3rd...so might be that

[@TheFusionmix]

@@11DNA11 Having your own 3rd is part of the bundle for players making up to 9.2mil. There are some serious RFAs coming up who orgs will try to 'underpay'. Chicago could swing for someone like Wyatt Johnston or Shane Wright since both Dallas and Seattle are near the cap, or force WInnipeg to choose between Nik Ehlers and Gabe Vilardi.

[@WaddickLawnCare]

@@TheFusionmixehlers isn’t an RFA and they have plenty of space to sign both guys

[@WaddickLawnCare]

@@11DNA11look up offer sheet compensation many need a 3rd round pick not just the cheap ones

[@DSchafer]

Avs invest in Goalies and then dump Mikko too early. WTF...

[@LSA30]

The craziest thing is that I very much see Colorado and Carolina meeting in the Finals this season. What a story that would be!

[@garrw]

Colorado isn’t sniffing the Finals for quite some time after this trade.

[@steve8803]

@@garrw They haven't sniffed the finals in a few years and they preferred not to lose Rant for nothing.

[@thekeegster6278]

This was seismic! I’m happy we got a massive trade in the NHL! But good for the Canes for loading up and ready to shed those ECF demons they’ve had for a good while now!

[@zach3640]

Wtf is Chicago thinking?

[@angiebee2225]

Probably just that Hall isn't a long term piece of their puzzle. This only impacts this season for them, so it isn't a big deal. They can afford it.

[@ferner7786]

Carolina got: Got stronger. 28yo, 120 point player 33yo, 50 point player =170 points Colorado got: Got weaker, broke up Chemistry. 26yo, 70 point player 24yo, 30 point player =100 points

[@kevinwong1988]

This is all in for the Canes.

[@11DNA11]

They got the team to win it all.

[@darrenyoung4893]

@@11DNA11 need a goalie

[@keith96969]

@@11DNA11they got 16 point winger on the first line not all

[@timsmith8797]

When does Necas play for the Avs?

[@tdfmtig]

This trade doesn’t really make sense for Carolina if they aren’t signing Rantanen long term

[@godawful5600]

I agree. I’m holding my excitement about it until I see a new contract

[@MrImaWizard]

They have a ton of cap space to work with, it comes down to team fit and how much success they have because the canes can afford to pay him, and he's Finnish like aho.

[@Dutchovenderlinde]

From a long time, diehard Avs fan, I've never been more devastated by a trade. This feels even worse than when the Broncos traded Von Miller a few years ago. This really, really hurts. Moose was one of my top 5 favorites all-time and I will proudly root for him in Carolina. That said, I'm thankful that CMac was able to see the writing on the wall and get a deal done. Letting him walk in the off-season would have felt far worse. Excited to see what Necas can do, and with added cap space...time to get Sid! Thank you, Moose. Avs fans everywhere will always appreciate what you meant to this team. 🫎

[@alu.304]

Well, not long enough of a Fan, then. When Tanguay and Footer left it felt equally as devastating!

[@Dutchovenderlinde]

@alu.304 those were devastating, but by then their Cup window had closed.

[@morganrandell.]

Feeling similar down here in Carolina. Enjoy watching Necas skate and create. I guess I am a bit of an Avs fan now... Good luck Necas!

[@keith96969]

You get necas on a great contract for a player who is gonna walk on an overrated carolina team

[@davezarvan]

This has to be the biggest trade in the league since the Duchene/Turris deal.

[@WaddickLawnCare]

Tkachuk hubby has entered the chat

[@davezarvan]

@ Yes, I agree Tkachuk and Huberdeau were bigger names than Duchene and Turris. But there were more pieces involved in the Duchene/Turris deal and that one also included a third team in the deal, which is why I said this one is the biggest since then.

[@johnpenn8444]

ONLY a big move if we are able to re-sign Rantanen. If not, we gave up two core pieces for a 30 game rental.

[@pavelsluka9180]

I think Martin Necas will explode in Avalanche… he needed a change. I remember before the season started, the word on the street was, Necas was supposed to be traded… so now we can put it to rest. Martin welcome to DENVER ❤️🇨🇿🇺🇸

[@juholaitakari1305]

I absolutely expected Mikko and the Avs to settle to 12.5 aav for 8 years.

[@RIPJimmyA7X]

As an Avs fan i love this, no way in hell did i want the FO to pay him 14 mill. And Necas is a darn fine top 6 forward piece that doesnt screw our cap space

[@godawful5600]

You guys will love Necas. Him on a line with Mac will be nuclear

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

Same. Crosby when?!

[@sportsfan1717]

Rantanen isn't quite worth 14M, but he's easily worth 12M and in my opinion, you don't split hairs over 2 million for elite scoring in this league. The Avs also probably could have gotten Rantanen down a bit from 14 because they had the extra year to offer. The biggest issue was they just didn't want to pay him more than MacKinnon.

[@11DNA11]

@@godawful5600 That skating :O

[@romaliop]

@@godawful5600 I have my doubts about that combo. Necas already often looks like he's playing too fast for his own head to keep up with the speed and ends up in situations where he doesn't know what to do. He's the biggest almost superstar I've ever seen. Makes a couple impressive moves in quick succession looking like McDavid, but then just passes the puck to nobody etc., ultimately not achieving anything despite looking very flashy.

[@rickster_88]

Can someone explain how the retained salary works. Is it actually money paid or cap?

[@Torothin1]

Power move by Carolina! What a great time to be a Canes fan. As someone that suffered since 2007 and has been a fan since the late 90's. This is awesome!!!

[@paulschmitz9175]

Will the Canes be able to re-sign him or is he a rental ala Guentzel?

[@Torothin1]

You don't make this trade if you csnt resign him. They will have the cap space.

[@marin_real_estate_photography]

I guess Chicago got... um... "something" out of this trade... I guess...

[@robmyckatyn]

cap relief and not much more unless you call getting rid of Hall a win

[@mrfreezer4242]

@@robmyckatyn Hall was mostly a non factor. They gain a roster spot and upgrade his return to a high 3rd instead of probably a 4th at 50% retained.

[@mariodicarlo8678]

Poor Nils Juntorp doesn't make it to the board.

[@f.n04]

Just wild

[@mhop9775]

seems like the aves are gearing up for another trade; Crosby?

[@daddylonglegs6356]

Did Chicago get fleeced? What did they honestly gain in this deal?

[@sportsfan1717]

They were sick of Hall lol.

[@outlawgordee]

Like every team he's ever played for. How many has it been? 12? 15? 😂 ​@@sportsfan1717

[@UncleBuckberger]

3rd round pick and a prospect.

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

A firm handshake.

[@kildawg]

They did not get much at all. Was their own 3rd really worth half of Rantanen's cap hit, a prospect, and dumping Taylor Hall?

[@tvojemamajetak]

Good luck to my boy Martin Nečas, finally a first liner! Very deserved!

[@biffdanielson2820]

As an Avs fan, I'm stoked. They've been flat since losing big pieces of the Cup winning team. Mikko wasn't going to sign, and they had to make a move.

[@captbloodbeard]

Glad to see an Avs fan being rational about this, I've read a whole lot of meltdowns from other Avs fans. This is the only way to look at it.

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

​@@captbloodbeard I hate our fans sometime, a bunch of doomers. I like this trade too. Will miss Mikko and wish him well, but this feels like we're potentially getting Landeskog back and/or Crosby.

[@captbloodbeard]

@@lelouchvibritannia4028 i don't think there much hope that Crosby will ever wear another sweater, but I'm really hoping Landeskog is coming back soon. One of the best leaders in the league.

[@lelouchvibritannia4028]

@@captbloodbeard I hope so too! This team hasn't been the same since he had to go into rehab after we won the Cup. If we can get him back, get Nichushkin back, and stay healthy, anything can happen.

[@moemanncann895]

Suitcase Hallsey, how many teams now for him?

[@jhedges8301]

No matter how you look at it, and how the rest of the seasons deals work out, avs are worse now than they were an hour ago

[@99Stams]

Well, they could have lost him for nothing at the end of the year like they did with Stastny and been totally fucked

[@allghilliedup21]

Makar will demand more money in two years time. They’re not gonna anchor themselves to three giant contracts like Toronto. It’ll be MacKinnon and Makar they retool around and compete. Relax.

[@rikbite7191]

They will be better next year though. Some moves have to be made with the future in mind

[@AnthonyBaker-m7m]

Appreciate the detailed breakdown! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (mistake turkey blossom warfare blade until bachelor fall squeeze today flee guitar). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

[@Zaxxon41]

Signs back with COL in the offseason? Right? Bueller?!

[@tomtalley2192]

I couldn’t figure out the bottom logo.

[@AvsHockeyMan]

Speaking of jump starting trade deadline discussions- let’s get Crosby on the phone and get him out of Pittsburgh and with his best friend!

[@fore_bears]

What does it mean for Chicago to retain 50% of MR?

[@Red790]

They're paying 50% of his remaining contract, and are taking 50% of his cap hit for the year. This was done so we can take on Rantanen's and Hall's contracts while staying under the cap ceiling

[@alu.304]

Rants and his Agent priced themselves out of Colorado. Unfortunately his play on the ice has been effected by the negotiations. He would have walked in the offseason for nothing. Mac, Cale, and Co. will drive Necas to excel. They don't call it the "Colorado Bump" for nothing. Thanks for everything, Moose and welcome Marty and Jack. LFGA💪💪

[@CannedCagny]

One thing that would help me understand more these trades if it listed when each player's current contract is up and if they will be a RFA or UFA. Thanks!

[@johnbo306]

Carolina loading up! Necas is nice for the Avs too

[@guyleclerc7324]

Necas is a mile away from what Rantanen do as a POWER forward..... Necas isnt a Power forward at all . .

[@Ck69420]

@@guyleclerc7324ok Necas is a great player too though, him and Mackkinnon ripping through the neutral zone will be fun. Necas also 9 points less than rantanen playing 6 mins less per night…

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

That's actually wild. Had no clue Miko was on the block... what a trade

[@SteveEagles]

As an avs fan, this sucks. But if mikko wanted and gets 14+(as he’s worth) this is a good trade for us. That would kill the already suspect depth

[@drink_with_the_dead]

@SteveEagles he's not worth that at all imo. I'm also an Avs fan and have been done with him.for two years. We have to see past his inflated stats. He's lazy and sloppy for about 80% of each game. Giveaways galore and sliding all over the ice. Happy to see him go

[@11DNA11]

You have a chance to win that trade. Draft well with either pick and IF Necas gets going again... You might really win the trade. And not to mention that Drury is a good b6 guy.

[@rhyta5042]

​@11DNA11 Neither are as good as Mikko, this stinks

[@soulknife20]

​@rhyta5042 Of course not. But having three dudes take up 80% of your cap space isn't a key to success. Look at the Leafs

[@SteveEagles]

@@rhyta5042 no, but they are better than getting nothing, which is what would have happened if he walked

[@Atte093]

Mikko Rantanen, Chicago legend.