A Very "Toxic" Rant About One & Done Tekken Players

[@JoeGodHand]

I believe a player reserves the right to run away from the set. I also reserve the right to call them a bitch.

[@merikijiya13]

That’s true.

[@TheZoobZoobs]

Word, brother

[@MotorheadForever7]

Salty you lost?

[@MaoriGamerDood]

Facts

[@JoeGodHand]

@@MotorheadForever7 on a win or loss, doesn’t matter. Nut up and finish the set.

[@NeloAlberto16]

This game is an abusive relationship

[@RealMikeHollow]

😂😂😂 real.

[@letitburnforever2122]

We take our Ls then bounce back

[@TheFran457]

So true 😂

[@redline841]

Every fighting game is

[@johnmaco]

As Harada said, every player has full responsibility for their defeats in the game. So It is not the fault of anything else but yourself.

[@knox7945]

I always take a rematch win or lose. Its just good sportsmanship

[@XRFGC]

Used to be like that, but then I realized that only 5% of players I win against rematch me, why would I do it then. But Mike is 100% correct, ranked should be Best of 3/5.

[@Pereira04ps3]

​@XRFGC then you are just as sad and shit as them. "There are people that are trash humain beings soo ill be one 🤡"

[@CYB3R2K]

@@knox7945 that's dumb

[@Urbanboy732]

Naw man, you're forgetting another archetype of one-and-doners The Even Stevens: they leave after when the W/L is 1-1

[@ScroogeMcToilet]

Arguably worse the "One and Dones", since they dont even settle the score and end it at a draw

[@saintdotlucci]

That's exactly what he was talking about

[@classicsagat]

Did you watch the video or just read the title?

[@Urbanboy732]

Fuck lol

[@RealMikeHollow]

😂😂😂😂

[@backstabuuu]

People are always so quick to say "nobody owes you a rematch" but they don't want to acknowledge that nobody owes them respect for trying to game the system.

[@Carlo-j9z]

They right, and don't have to, cry harder.

[@jwoodsjr123sgameroom5]

​@@Carlo-j9z yep, and we also don't owe you respect if you one and done.

[@merikijiya13]

@@Carlo-j9zhe’s right as well. We will just call them scared bitches and go to the next match

[@Tre4life100]

@@Carlo-j9zthat’s true but why play 1 rank match should just do a casual mode if that’s the case .Waste of time .

[@bigbean8530]

@@Tre4life100because sometimes my sanity is more important to me than giving a xiaoyu player that just sits on the ground half the match a rematch.

[@curtisjackson4090]

The one and done Steves are THE WORST _"I'LL REMATCH YOU ANYTIME!!!"_ * leaves * 🤦🏾‍♂️😂

[@manekinder]

This is why as a Steve main, not rematching will hurt my pride LOL.

[@Grace-Zed]

Maybe devs need to change his win animation 😂

[@RealMikeHollow]

It's Shambolic ☠️☠️☠️

[@curtisjackson4090]

@@RealMikeHollowHella Shambolic 💯🤣

[@stainz_4208]

oh my sack the irony! LMAO!

[@ArtemisNMP]

5:51 I've been saying this for the longest time with ranked in fighting games. After discussing this with friends, I was able to meet in the middle with the idea of wanting tekken to add a customizable set option. First to 1, first to 2, first to 3. But at the end I just want them to lock the sets down.

[@crimsoncomet2209]

I literally dropped ranked for this exact reason. I barely play the game now.

[@domooooooooooooooo]

same when i win ppl leave n i was close to ranking up its annoying

[@rodrose8001]

Word I’m tired of playing with females who don’t actually like the game

[@toyoseries]

@@domooooooooooooooo This has been happening a lot over a Multiversus for me recently lol

[@domooooooooooooooo]

@@toyoseries bruh damn over there too wtf

[@8minato]

😂😂😂

[@Moltanova]

I think the that the rise of One and Done are a multi faceted issue. You're right that the game is hyper aggressive in a game that is already difficult. When you're are winning, you're really not because the system itself is unfun. You can't go into quickmatch cause Quickmatch is the same. The only way to learn is lab or replay and not in the match like T7, Most of my game knowledge came from losing in t7 and some of the matches were fun to lose. This Game makes you feel battered.shredded and deflated. Which turns leads to the rise of ONDs. There is no actual fun mode to learn and hone skills without being one and doned and it's unfun to play

[@Shade84]

What are you on about? There are custom rooms and the fight lounge where you can fight a single player an infinite amount of times. There are more ways to enjoy the game than just Ranked and Quick Match.

[@Moltanova]

@@Shade84 if you don't have friends,is that really useful though? Yea, there is modes outsides the quick play and ranked but the primary is that quick match is Ranked lite, and Ranked favours losing in terms how you rank up. You lose more points for losing to someone higher than you or at the same level at a certain time. Compound that with the sheer amount of forced situation, 50/50 and miscellenous factors that the game itself is unfun. You can see it with the one and dones. You can see when people Say "Don't Rematch X Character!!" ... Yea, You can do those other modes but it's still doesn't erase the problem of the ranked and quickmatch system now

[@Shade84]

@@Moltanova Speaking from experience, you can simply walk into just about any room or up to any cabinet and start playing against people. They don't need to be your friends.

[@HipHopFanatic-s8y]

When playing fighting games, you just have to do your best the first opportunity you have because rematches aren't guaranteed.

[@elloofficer]

They should add more points for rematching and winning, but also decrease the amount of points for rematching for losing. That way it will encourage both players to keep playing regardless who's winning. Honestly I don't even feel like I've won in this game unless I death match with my friends for first to 5 or 10.

[@chaotix67]

Tbh, it's not just a Tekken issue. It spans all across modern fighting games. It's one thing when the connection is shoddy on both sides or you keep queuing with the same person. However, it's a pure bitch move to win ONCE and dip out. Especially after I give the run backs willingly. I don't remember this problem being this prevalent back in the day, so this is definitely a modern FGC issue.

[@fire-oni709]

Tell me about it I played mk1 an I beat this player an i rematch him when the player won he left an I ask for a rematch the player was talk shit sayin he the better player so I called him pussy an the player report me lol

[@JohnSmith-rx9vt]

Almost everyone wants to win, not play. It IS a modern issue for sure.

[@chaotix67]

@JohnSmith-rx9vt Damn good point. No one wants to follow the Alphabet. Gotta get to the L before you get to the W.

[@RealMikeHollow]

Yeah, this didn't use to be a thing back when I was playing SFIV or 3rd Strike on GGPO. Times have definitely changed.

[@joshuaxiong8377]

i really appreciate you realizing that it's not just a problem with one thing it's such a relief

[@ysl2442]

I completely agree, in a competitive game, you gotta play the full game. Like in counter-strike, if you are losing, you don’t get to just leave at half time, you gotta finish it.

[@Ram2rol]

Or if they leave, they take the consequence and lose points equally to as if he lost the rest of the set. If they win quit after first match, they probably most likely don't deserve the points either way. Take them back to the rank they belong. The whole "picking and choosing" doesn't belong in a ranked mode. Only exception to this is bad connection/performance.

[@CYB3R2K]

@@ysl2442 I'm completely disagree

[@rivius02]

Mike I have just gotten tekken8 on pc and found out that AFTER EVERY ONLINE MATCH the game automatically turns to low the graphic settings because of "performance" while I read 59 fps the whole time (and steam overlay says 60), no framedrops or anything. And its not just me but also other people with much better pc components than the ones I have

[@merikijiya13]

Yea my default settings is high but after one match it goes to poop

[@rivius02]

I hope they fix this shit, I read that it's something with a patch that came out 9 days ago, and before that it didnt happen

[@RealMikeHollow]

I never game on PC. I hear too many issues about it from too many people. Good ol' PS5 for me bro. Sorry you're having to deal with that though.

[@phenom504]

I can only imagine how many people are gonna do this when Sparking Zero comes out lol

[@RealMikeHollow]

I'll use final explosion in real life.

[@phenom504]

@@RealMikeHollow 😆

[@roxas327]

They gonna be plugging as soon as they lose to hercule and saibamen

[@ParodyAccount_]

@@roxas327 I remember all the body change rage quits Captain Ginyu caused in Xenoverse 2 lmao

[@antonburda3175]

Dragonball isnt a real fighting game and never was its way to casual

[@terminategumball225]

If I don’t wanna rematch someone then I’m not going to lol. It’s not toxic to know when you’re outmatched or getting spammed.

[@SuntanXxSuperman]

Spammers want the rematch just so they can spam even HARDER then refuse the rematch. I'm not giving a SPAMMER the satisfaction of beating me. Nope. You got beat while you tried as hard as you could to spam me and you LOST. Deal with it. Goodbye. And I quit application if I see them in the match loading screen ON PURPOSE to piss them off even more.

[@ZZAFRETZZ]

Lots of people just can't take a lose these days, I literally had someone plug on me in a fucking QUICK MATCH, I was dumbfounded

[@YourTamedLion]

The only reason why such a shitty and unworthy ( for a game like Tekken) ranked mode exists.... Is of course to cater to a more casual audience that ( in the mind of the devs) cannot be asked to win twice against the same opponent in the most volatile/aggressive Tekken ever to get any points. It is a handholding thing. Same with giving free ranks until and including all green ranks. Make casuals feels good without demanding too much effort or persistence. A lousy decision that only hurts motivation of those playing this game for years to come. Most of the casuals are already gone anyways. After they fixed the brainded heatburst ( also for noobs/casuals) it would only be logical to fix the ranked mode itself. And ofc a hard reset. Get these one-and-doners back to square one.

[@shuckraxv5258]

MFW Im a casual that doesn't one and done and willingly rematches, win or lose

[@SuntanXxSuperman]

@@YourTamedLion NOPE. It's because of players like you that I one and done. If I lose the first match and rematch all most players do the second match is t bag,spam the same move that got you the set before over and over and over and over,trip spam,taunt spam and generally make the game not fun to even play. I'm not going through that just to lose again. One sweaty loss then another enraged loss. 😒 yaaaaaaaaay how fun. If I lose badly I'm not rematching. If I barely won I'm not rematching. If you spammed and won im not rematching. If you taunt I'm not rematching. If you taunt and LOSE I'm DEFINITELY not rematching just to piss you off even more. You deserve it at that point. If you smash me and I couldn't win even one round BUT I had fun I will rematch win or lose. If you are my friend in real life I will rematch. If we on game chat and having a great time laughing and shit I will rematch. If you using a meta character and only doing combos you saw on evo I'm not rematching. If I just promoted I DEFINITELY ain't rematching. If I just demoted im not rematching. If you using cheap characters(victor,eddy,azucena,feng,dragonov,alisa,leory,lidia) I will NEVER rematch you EVER don't even THINK to ask. Other than that I see no problem rematching. The problem is MOST people do almost ALL of what I just listed so most people don't get a rematch and that makes them mad. Too bad. I dont care what you like or don't like. I don't like being spammed or taunted but guess what people STILL do it just to piss me off. But it's OK then right? Shutup

[@AndromidaOfficial]

As a newer player who’s trying to learn the game; when someone pushes my shit in, it annoys the hell out of me when they one and done. I try to rematch every single match so I can learn. Really wish people were lock in for the sets

[@thenameisturbo]

I think pluggers are a bigger problem because you literally get nothing.

[@CYB3R2K]

Nobody owes a rematch. Nobody. If I'm not having fun bye. That's it. I'm not breaking any rule, the damn gods of the Olympus won't strike us. Is my damn money I put in this game and you can find someone else.

[@sakashimayokoshimahapofusagari]

i completely agree, it's 100% your choice and you have no obligation to keep playing but in most cases it comes from a place of being butthurt and it will only to hurt you in the long run. if youre not good or dont aspire to be better, i guess that's not something you need to worry abt tho.

[@Xenoblade47]

This is the best comment I’ve ever read in this video

[@CYB3R2K]

​@@sakashimayokoshimahapofusagari so what? Losing blows in fighting games more than other genres. If I limit my losses with one and done so beat it. I don't have time to lose, I just wanna rank up.

[@Xenoblade47]

@@CYB3R2K agreed 👍

[@Dekacho]

I'm one of those who like the FT2 sets on ranked, but I'll admit I did a few One-and-done during rants on a losing streak (not proud of it, of course). Because of that I like your idea of the mandatory completion of the set to gain points on ranked and make infinite rematch for Quick Match (I have more fun on Quick matches 'cause I don't think about points).

[@thatsbussssin]

I get so pissed when I click ready and at the same time my opponent just clicks cancel . It’s enough to make me want to whip a controller it’s genuinely so annoying, and sometimes after one and dones I’ll get them again the next round and it’s hilarious . OR if I fumbled the first round I want to re match because I understood their rhythm by the end of the round and then they cancel I literally close the game

[@KARS215]

I’m not sure if T8’s Matchmaking works similarly to SF6, but I tend to run into 1 & done players again 80% of the time. Master rank is notorious for 1 and done because players want to protect their MR. You’ll have to download them over a series of matches because they will NOT play sets. I have 3 MR characters and I don’t even use them in rank anymore 😂

[@YourTamedLion]

Forced Bo5 would be great. Not only just because games would give both players more room to test each others depth of abilities beyond lvl 1 flowcharts. But this system would actually again help to promote players who are good at fundamental Tekken gameplay. The way it should be. It would be way less volatile because it is also way harder to plug yourself to higher ranks if it is always forced bo5. Sure you can avoid losing but can you actually win 3 times with a pathetic flowchart, no movement, defense, ability to adapt? I don't think so.

[@coldsixthousand1]

I agree, but sometimes I just get tilted and refuse a rematch. It happened last night against an Alisa who just kept sidestepping constantly with her tiny hitbox and then would slide in and do chainsaws. I had to use only homing moves. I managed to win and didn't want a rematch because Alisa is pure AIDS. But I agree, one and done is not good for the game, I admit that.

[@OverlordDurash]

Funnily enough, I've actually played that steve before in quick match. One of the few things I legitimately WANTED for tekken 8 (got none of them btw but thats w/e im just some dude) was that ranked would be atleast bo3 for ranked points. So you cant play one match, rob someone with random bunga and one dimensional play, cash out and leave. The better player will *usually* win the majority of the time by adjusting and adapting given a match or so. Longer sets have always been infinitely more interesting to play and watch than just shotgun one n done matches. The way the system and game itself is setup encourages you to play a certain way. You'll have people on *CERTAIN* characters who're clearly lacking in most areas of the game but skirt by on one-n-done and knowledge check simulators. The whole online ranked mode itself is just a complete mess rn and could use its own video(s). I also dont understand the removal of deathmatching from playermatch. In Ranked it makes sense, so you cant just farm someone (who is willingly to get farmed too) like in Tekken 7, but its made it a bit more tedious to practice specific matchups.

[@User.665]

The point system in ranked is beyond f'd. 600+ point loss to someone two ranks above me and more tekken prowess but only around 400 if i take the next game. Its not a question of why wont I stay but why should I? No incentive to stick around if i want to rank up.

[@Shade84]

A very good point that's seldom mentioned.

[@RealMikeHollow]

The point system is a hot mess in Tekken 8, I'll be honest. Maybe I should do a discussion on it.

[@User.665]

@@RealMikeHollow best solutions I can think of is: Bonus points for taking the full set and stop taking double my points from players the game has decided is better than me thats been quantified two different ways.

[@BastoGhost]

There are a lot of moments when I get stomped by a Reina, Victor and I want to rematch because I know I could learn to recognize their move better, getting better at the match up. And then I realize infinite rematch is no more, they don't even let you the opportunity to get good by yourself

[@Aphextal93]

This barely exists in SF6. Says a lot about this games target audience.

[@yellowscarlightningscream8347]

Its the rank system...... You lose more when you rematch and gain less.... The system is flawed

[@Aphextal93]

@@yellowscarlightningscream8347 its terrible

[@OgSleep]

In sf6 people quit mid match even In quick match so there's that argument

[@ViewtifulJae]

Eww man, what your are trying to do is nasty lol if you like it enjoy it . Shang have to try and reign on others fun

[@Aphextal93]

@@OgSleep ive barely experienced that tbh but i believe it

[@joeyrivera7003]

I completely understand where you are coming from it happens to me so often that I find myself fighting the urge to repay other inkind, hear for the hollow rants very entertaining also currently watching windbreaker nothing but great hands and decent story so far

[@RealMikeHollow]

Love Windbreaker. I'm on episode 8. Beautifully animated.

[@joeyrivera7003]

@@RealMikeHollow that’s what’s up I wasn’t ready completely caught me off guard

[@djw_tekken8490]

​@@RealMikeHollow what i dont understand its why only a ft 2 ..mainman talked about this and said its not good in beta and everybody said ah its only bc of beta... now even on player match we cant infinite rematch wtf why??

[@123mathtutorabc4]

This sort of problem will always exists with a popular fighting game and publishers are hesitant to 'punish' paying customers so instead of just having a ranked mode where you can earn ranking points you can have players earn ranking points through different means such as official league play or tournaments that require a larger commitment of time and effort (think the difference between pick up games and organized sports, treat it like a real competition), don't punish one and doners but instead reward players who are committed to see it to the end. Unfortunately publishers are too busy pushing out storefronts and dlc to bother with such things.

[@rdcarbonk1885]

i dont see whats wrong with one and done players at the very least they aint plugging.

[@Cr1ms0nRav3n]

As someone who used to play T6 online constantly back in the day, the game didn’t even have rematch options. Win/lose you were taken back to the character select screen and then to the “searching for a new opponent” screen. I used to get decimated by Eddy/Christie and Lili among others in that game and forced to go back to character select, and I would be fuming and bursting a blood vessel cuz I want to get back up on that horse and try and correct my mistakes. So I completely get it. When T7 introduced rematching a lot of people didn’t agree with it because it would breed a lot of entitlement and animosity. The “one and done” system back when it was obligatory in T6/TTT2 kept players on their toes and prevented you from stagnating. Meaning you’re so focused on the one opponent and rematching, you’re going to get mentally stuck into their flow chart and making it harder to adapt when you face a new opponent with a completely different style. Back then it was a constant revolving door of opponents and it kept you sharp. The mistakes you made lingered more in your mind, and allowed you more time to make mental notes if you ran into them again. And it served as a cool down period because it would take you right back to character select after you won or lost if you were upset. It taught me to have a rule, if I was getting angry or upset, then it was time to stop playing. Because the moment you get too angry or attached to getting revenge or feeling toxic then the game stops being fun. It helped me develop thicker skin to the point Ki charging or taunts didn’t bother me, I just laughed at them for being desperate enough to attempt those things and I always kept water close by to stay hydrated. Tekken puts your brain to work, and strains you mentally and emotionally and you get thirsty quick, so always stay hydrated and you’ll stay sharp and less prone to frustration. But I completely get your take on locking people into a full set in ranked. The problem is, you’re playing online, not in a real life tourny. The devs have to accommodate players with the ability to leave in case something comes up like an emergency or for their own convenience. They are the customer that paid for their copy of the game. I understand that you shouldn’t be playing online if you’re expected to do stuff at home, you should play when you know you won’t be interrupted, but always remember you’re setting,……you’re at home playing online. Not playing at a real life tourny for cash. Sometimes you just gotta keep it moving, and let it be water under the bridge. If your opponent is petty enough to ki charge you on their way out and leave you hanging with a “one and done” after smacking you, that says more about them than they realize, but don’t give your power and stability away by allowing that to get under your skin. Just beat them and offer a rematch, stay on your high horse and they’ll probably come around. It’s happened to me before. I had a dude leaving and t-bagging me constantly. This was in T7, and I just stayed true to my self and offered rematches, and he eventually came around and reciprocated and stopped being toxic. I won him over. Lol

[@pedroneves6261]

wishing you a speedy recovery for the shoulder. 🙏🏻

[@RealMikeHollow]

Thank you, bro ☝🏾

[@kazuyametsu]

You have no respect for no one weak

[@RealMikeHollow]

@@kazuyametsu I have no idea what you just said

[@cellador_tk2105]

I agree, I think there should be some kind of reward for people rematching, even if they lose and also some kind of punishment for not rematching. For example points could be distrubuted differently then.

[@technothug8974]

It seems, (just like in tekkn 7) Namco have simply moved on and hope we have forgotten about pluggers and win leavers, glad some people ar still talking about it. Hopefully Namco will realize how big of an issue this still is and clean up their act.

[@rentedtuba52]

Whats funny is that it depends really on the character you play as i played king yesterday and had some people beat me and leave after one game (and getting ki charged at the end of like 3-4 games) but when i play yoshimitsu people rematch me in a heartbeat with no issue at all I’m just lost atp with the community.

[@mintealeafy]

It truly does. If you’re me that play Alisa, there’s a chance that not many people will rematch with you. With Lili I’m almost always getting a rematch. I don’t blame them but as soon as you decide to rematch with me you have to go all the way.

[@kngwaffler2666]

Feng Wei Detected. Popped Shoulder Detected. Nerf Realised .Feng Accepted

[@RealMikeHollow]

🥲🥲🥲🥲 pour one out for my Hollow shoulder.

[@drabnail777]

This guy plays a free win character but his point still valid af

[@GerogeChan]

@@RealMikeHollow i strained my pec on 275 bench press bro haven't lifted s 5 months still your strain healed ?

[@cinders8144]

I have hundreds of hours in ranked on SF6 and Tekken 8, one and dones and rage quits are EXTREMELY common in Tekken 8. In SF6 it happens to me maybe twice every 3 sessions, it's a culture in Tekken 8

[@ΆγιοςΤιμοθέος-ρ5υ]

(At the Intro) SHAMBOLIC is the word 😅💯🤣

[@trueultimagod2465]

I haven't played much lately, just a few quick matches, one guy absolutely flattened me, taunted me then left after the 1st game. Found him again and the 1st round went the same, he started standing there as if to say nothing i can do will win me the fight, he won that round barely, then i proceeded to paste him back, now that he had lost he clicked rematch, i decided to give him a taste of his own medicine. Random personal insert there, but the most fun I've had with my limited recent time with the game. I understand why the one and done can be irritating. PS: I do think a 1st to 2 is the standard, it's how it is in a normal tournament round. I don't think it should be more than 2 but I absolutely agree a 1st to 2 should be locked in, in ranked at least.

[@TheBattleBro.]

The closer the match the more likely for the person to run 😢

[@Shinjiduo]

The problem with forcing players who win into a best out of three is what if they are holding off a unexpected task to finish the one match they have with you? Now they have to disconnect and get banned simply because they have a task to do. I see you forgot a scenario: What about the guys who smokes you in the first match and still dip? So that guy is so afraid of you now? I know! You have NEVER had that happen to you. Right? Even in the Arcade back in day people would abandon their game if life came calling even when they were winning. It happened pretty often as I remember. I am now supposed to believe that never happens online though. At the end of the day if they stay on the queue and continue to play a genuine runner is going to have to deal with you before long again, especially in the higher ranks. It is more satisfying to run into a runner a couple of matches later anyway as they are exposed for what they are at that point and are posed to take an L on top of that. The complexity of Tekken is why you get 3 out of 5 instead of 2 out of 3 like most other fighters. Your job is to make the opportunity you do get work. Sorry making a video game a commitment is not cool even for a joke. You do not have leg a stand on here. You are being unreasonable, full stop. A minute outro is a little long don'cha think? I hope your shoulder has recovered by now as I know those injuries can be annoyingly nagging over a long period of time.

[@thatblindtekkenwarrior1177]

You are probably going to hate me. But let me give you my perspective. My name is not for fun, I am legally blind. I have played Tekken since T1. And I was actually pretty good at it at one point when I could see. Now, I would say I am pretty average at it. Having less than 5% eyesight, I would say average is very good. Here is the thing though, even with the accessibility options that allow me to actually play this game. Who do you think downloads who when I play them. I will never play somebody for a rematch and then quit that is really shitty. However, I rarely rematch anybody anyway. No matter if, I win, whether they win. in general only if we have a draw will I rematch. And that's because I've already given my opponent the biggest advantage I can possibly give them by being blind. They do not need another advantage of getting to download me. But here is my real point. We can have one game and win, we can have two games and win. That is literally it, it's one or two. If we go to a third game, it's one win. So what am I really robbing my opponent out of if I don't rematch them. One game one win . That's not really that much is it, I don't see why I should give up the only advantage I have by allowing someone to download me. Just so that they can have two wins over me instead of one. Like I said, I know that's not going to be a popular opinion. But just remember we all have our own circumstances. And I play the game to the best of my ability with the disability that I have. I'm sorry that annoys people, but I do what I got to .

[@RealMikeHollow]

Bro, you're legally blind playing Tekken. That's impressive enough. Nothing but respect for that. You do what you gotta do ☝🏾

[@Jupiter-jr6xc]

Sorry about your shoulder. I have tendinitis in both of my arms from overplaying Tekken 7 and I can’t really play any games anymore and it’s very frustrating. Please everyone who reads this, take care of yourself.

[@RealMikeHollow]

Thanks bro ☝🏾 and sorry to hear that. It's on ice right now and feeling better.

[@smok3ywuff784]

I’m sorry. I respect your opinion, however, I disagree. People have said it a few times and I have no problem repeating it. You are not entitled to a rematch. There is absolutely no rule saying you “have to” play a full set. You’re literally making up a rule and then trying to enforce it on others. Now, if it was plugging, I can understand because that’s pretty much a cheap tactic of maintaining their rank. Bit of advice: if you wanna learn matchups, labs, replays, and player matches would do the trick. Rank, however, is not the place as it is solely for winning matches and nothing more.

[@RealMikeHollow]

You're right, they don't owe me a rematch but I'd like to drum up enough noise so they change it so the system makes it so or they get penalised. I'm more than likely going to have no impact, but it's worth a try. There's no rule now but hopefully there is one in the future like with SF and MK. I can't force anyone to do anything but I can speak my mind.

[@benk6192]

Simple solution: add rematch rate before accepting a match. Other solutions like not giving points will only make more one and dones.

[@KN-592]

The toaru series is fun and worth watching imo, my personal watch guide recommendation going in blind. Movie felt weird ngl lol: A Certain Scientific Railgun (s1) A Certain Scientific Railgun S (s2) A Certain Magical Index (s1) A Certain Magical Index 2 (s2) A Certain Magical Index: The Movie - The Miracle of Endymion A Certain Scientific Railgun T (s3) A Certain Scientific Accelerator (s1) A Certain Magical Index 3 (s3)

[@classicsagat]

Woot! Someone finally said it! Gaming channels are talking about games. Fighting game channels are talking about fighting games! Thank you dude!

[@Faso26TV]

I will be honest, I think there should be casual Ranked and what I will call for now "Hardcore Ranked" or "Nightmare Ranked" which will lock people in. Casual matches are good to have and I think having a "Casual Ranked" mode would be beneficial for many

[@hedspce2532]

no one is not obligated to rematch anybody 😭 it’s a game y’all

[@drabnail777]

If you're a high rank you don't deserve it at all...in fact you don't deserve any rank 😂

[@djw_tekken8490]

Im also obligated to call u a b*tch then

[@djw_tekken8490]

​@@drabnail777yea

[@PepperJackBrown]

I agree with you about everything. People would change their approach to rank a bit if they locked people in sets. I think a good compromise would even be to lock in the set if it becomes 1-1. Ranked should be treated more serious by developers.

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

11:42 DUDE i thought it was only me LOL i have this ongoing theme LITERALLY for years now. I go mad i feel great, i pump out these workouts and then BAM 1 week sick 1 week recovery. WHY

[@Urbanboy732]

Gotta make all kindz of gainz...all kindz

[@RealMikeHollow]

God correcting course because we get too many Zenkai boosts 🥲

[@immortalz4860]

As a fuijin feng player. I can agree that this tekken is not it when it comes to rank. But I’d rather someone 1 and done me then someone plugging. They should like smash brothers where when an opponent quit, a cpu/ghost player should still fight and that way they should have their points at least but literally there are so many games coming out sometimes I can hardly bother taking this tekken 8 seriously anymore

[@windliger1068]

They shouldn’t have to be locked into the set, even in ranked. If they know they can’t win after the first match why do they have to give more points away? If a person leaves after losing the first match, respect the fact they know they can’t win. Maybe they want to fight someone els to have a more enjoyable experience, or maybe they left to train. The ones that ki charge and get disrespectful are the ones to talk about. I know it’s all competitive but they make themselves look weak doing that. And in the end you should know they have every right to leave even after the second match if they win. Before T8 there wasn’t even a set system in the first place yet I never saw one video in T7s entire lifespan from day one talking about this irrelevant nonsense when players have been acting this way for decades on fighting games. Y’all really be focusing to much on “the set” when it’s never been a thing until they made you only able to fight a max of 3 times when in T7 it was unlimited. The only reason they put it in the game was to stop point farming on ranked.

[@RealMikeHollow]

There's better ways to stop point farming without gutting something that made Tekken ranked cool. People never complained about it because it was never this much of a problem. People would leave in Tekken 7, but having death matches available incentivised people to hang around and during my time on Tekken 7 (which I played from beginning to end) I never had to deal with this level of nonsense. This new system just encourages people to leave.

[@teamguapogames]

"If they know they can’t win after the first match why do they have to give more points away?" In reality, giving the points away is how they get matched against opponents they could beat. So if that's the goal then you should be happy to lose the points.

[@theconfusedavocado8513]

So You just play when You can win ? When You lose You run like a bch coz You dont want to give points away ? If You cant keep your points it means u suck and try to overcome the problem instead of running and fishing matchs You can win You think youre good but youre not u just picking matches You can win to fed your selfish fake ego mate… if You dont play the set coz You dont want to give points its a skill issue, in other Words maybe it shows youre tekken king but guees what u prob not Even close to that…

[@windliger1068]

@@theconfusedavocado8513 if you want to keep points and gain points of coarse you’re not going to play another match. Leave and go train. Then come back and go for it. Calling someone a bch because they know how to choose fights is toxic as hell. And don’t start talking about learning during the fights when you have a maximum 3 fights if you manage to win the one. In T8 they made it to where you can’t keep fighting the same person so the best option is just to go practice or “lab”

[@windliger1068]

@@RealMikeHollow exactly, they should’ve just kept ranked and quick match the same as it was in 7. All this talk wouldn’t even be a thing.

[@Mokujinko]

Sorry to hear about your shoulder mate. Hope it heals quick. As to the ranked situation it's clearly intentional. They don't want you to have time to adapt. They don't want the stronger player to prevail. They talked a lot about 'narrowing the skill gap' and the element of surprise is a big part of that. As for martial arts anime: you've likely seen Ippo however maybe not Ashita no Joe. A really vintage boxing anime. All hand drawn. Shigurui is a very dark, very loosely 'based on a true story' anime focused on a sword/kenjutsu school in the samurai era. One of my all-time favourites. Strongest Disciple Kenichi is more light-hearted but you will learn a few interesting things about techniques from a variety of styles. Lastly there's an anime called Token Bloodline. It's got decent fights but it jumps the shark honestly. There's like demons and aliens or something, really spoils the more grounded martial arts stuff. Maybe miss this one.

[@RenTheDragon1975]

No mention of the Stupid Win Streak Bonuses and loss Streak Penalties ? .... These are the main reason players one and done .... If you are already on loss number 2 out of 3 vs someone that pushed your Shit in it is better to roll the dice for a chance of escaping the streak penalty vs someine else ..... also what prat at Namco thought it was a good idea to lose more points losing to someone higher ranked than you than you do losing to someone lower ranked than you ? Tekken 8 ranked is a Farce and I will treat it as such until they sort the wanky points system out. Also I don't care what you say .... if my Boy needs me mid set .... real life is more important than fucking finishing a set of ranked and I will leave as soon as the current game finishes. The one thing I do agree with you on is that if you stick around for the 2nd game then you must finish the set .... unless of course it is a real life thing that will ALWAYS trump ranked whether you like it or not..... not everyone has the luxury of been able to always have uninterupted gaming time. There...... I have fed the Algorithm for you yet again. 🤣

[@nicholas8363]

Facts man the tekken ranking system genuinely makes no sense especially when I beat players higher ranked then me then I get less points than when I beat lower ranked players than me at times where’s the logic behind that

[@teamguapogames]

The ranked system is meaningless, who cares if you're on a loss streak? Besides if you can't get to whatever rank you want without manipulating the system then you don't deserve it anyway.

[@RenTheDragon1975]

​@@teamguapogamesIf ranked is meaningless WHY do YOU care if players One and Done ? If you want a full set go to a Lobby.

[@teamguapogames]

@@RenTheDragon1975 ??? I'm not following your logic. If someone thinks it's annoying to get one and done'd how does that equate to them caring about ranked? You can get one and done'd by someone who beat you and left. In fact I'd argue that's the most annoying type of one and donner to me personally. And that would more than likely cost you more ranked points than not.

[@NicholasRivers-e8t]

Man sorry about you popping your shoulder brother shit sucks man I popped my rotator cuff in weight training in school in the past so I know the feeling. Get well soon brother that shit sent me outta training for kickboxing in the past and had me hella depressed, stay hard Mike hope you recover soon warrior.

[@curtisjackson4090]

I just read the title and i ALREADY know you preaching 💯

[@richardsinclair7661]

This is a good summary about one and done players, and honestly I find myself re-evaluating my feelings about this subject yet again. It's been helpful in figuring out who I'm talking about when I say "Nobody owes you a rematch". It's usually the first type of one-and-doner, the person that dips after losing and doesn't wanna play a full set. Maybe it's "lame", but oh well. I don't have a problem with it. Winning and then dipping is frustrating because I feel like not giving a rematch after a win is inherently bad sportsmanship, and it's even worse when someone leaves the set while it's 1-1. They've already committed to the implied agreement of a full set, but don't wanna take it to its conclusion because they're afraid they'll lose. I think this behavior is reinforced because a lot of people don't realize what it means to play ranked. They think it's like quick match with fancy jpegs and that's just not the case. I think making 3 match sets mandatory is a good idea. It'll weed out the casuals when they realize they can't just leave a matchup they don't like. Best of 5 is a pretty idea, but I don't think there's a chance in hell that it's implemented.

[@DrkBlood_Apex]

I dealt with many one and doners. Sadly I had a connection drop on one of my matches and was readying up for rematch and suddenly net dropped. Had the saltiest hatemail until I gave them proof of what happened. Then it moved on to more positive commotion.

[@DeanofDeeps]

Hehe as a Yoshi player, if I’m not win streaking I’ll play game 1 “party style”, if I lose, I almost always get a rematch. Then I’ll dial it back to fundamentals, frame traps and punishes. Game 3 rematch is literally like a 20% chance when I do this. Puts a smile on my face

[@longhairedcello4109]

My decision to rematch most of the time is purely based on whether or not I had fun. I can get my ass kicked and say "ill have another helping of what this guys cooking". But if i did not enjoy the fight, im not doing it again. I am here to have fun after all. In any case, the reason I may decline a rematch ultimately doesnt matter, I'll decline the rematch because I have to pee As far as getting skipped when I want a rematch, yeah it can be annoying, but I just smile, call them a p***y and go to the next match. The most annoying ones is where I get absolutely destroyed and my opponent declines the rematch, like what, am I not worth your time? But even then it's a minor issue to me. I feel like the matchmaking system needs more attention than what youre complaining about here. It feels like the pool of possible opponents the game chooses to match me with is much smaller than it was at launch. I used to never match with the same person twice but now it happens at least once every time i play. I want to play against a wider variety of opponents

[@cryofist]

it doesnt help that alot of people aim to be just frame positive the entire fight or spam jabs or other moves that force you to be negative, like am i supposed to have fun during that fight? is it fun to fight a king who doesn nothing but back 3 and spam grabs that are just knowledge checks? if im not having fun why would i ever rematch? i literally decide as im playing the match if ill rematch them or not doesnt matter if im winning or losing, im asking myself if im having fun the whole time and if i am then you get a rematch and if im not you can gtfo and hope to see me in queue again

[@RealMikeHollow]

The point of ranked is to continue to rank up and fight more refined players. Some of those players are minimalists who only use a few moves to beat you like jabs or whatever is giving them the best outcome. It's your job to overcome them. There's joy in overcoming all play styles. That is what should separate ranked from casual. It sounds like you guys just wanna have a good ol' time and not deal with these "try hards" or "spammers" and that's exactly why they created casual or quick match mode in fighting games in the first place. No risk, no reward, just play and have a good time. Ranked should be exactly the opposite. Fight whoever, take your licks, understand why you lost and overcome it with the rewards being points and titles.

[@ImStillNotGoodWithNumbers]

I saw on Reddit that if you keep finishing sets with people it becomes much harder to rank up, because you lose so much points by losing that it becomes practically impossible to rank up by finishing sets with people (well not impossible but increasingly more dificult).

[@Gogemare]

As a Xiaoyu main, I feel your thumbnail😂😂😂

[@alexandermccalla5098]

I’ve been meaning to watch those anime and seeing the crossover come out has definitely motivated me. Yes. The ones I give the rematch to even though I’ve vowed not to give rematches to certain characters (though I always rematch), they always aim to cheese and run. Without fail. They get me to turn off Crossplay to increase my chances of encountering them again. They make me want to commit crime. Mostly joking though.

[@RealMikeHollow]

What kinda crime we talking about there, sir? ☠️

[@TheNatos]

If im matched against someone who clearly outmatches me to the point where I'm not learning anything because im getting destroyed that badly.. If Im matched against someone that plays lame AF, and I mean their game plan is going for timeouts.. If your connection is awful.. No, I'm not rematching you. I play games because I want to, Im not here to play games for YOU. Also, I see where youre coming from with wanting to lock people in, in ranked. But you're a good player thats already high up. Think about the people climbing that hit yellow, orange, maybe red that are getting matched against blue and purple? Why should I be punished for getting matched against someone like that? Ill lose to people MY rank all day long. If I derank off of opponents my own rank, that means I didnt deserve to be there. Im not about being punished for losing against people I have no business fighting.

[@RealMikeHollow]

Because that's the point in having a ranked mode separate from casual. In casual, there's no reward and no consequences so nobody cares if you leave. Ranked should be about improving so you can reach the summit and make it feel worth it. Not cherry pick opponents so you can get a new shiny title. Really goes against the idea of what ranked fights are supposed to be. What are we ranking here? Not who's the best, just who gamed the system enough. The game allows you to leave so I really can't be too mad at the players. It's more to try and bring awareness to this and hopefully get it changed like we have with other things and if these people don't like it then casual mode exists for a reason. You should be forced to work for ranks, not cherry pick opponents to get them.

[@TheNatos]

@@RealMikeHollow L take if you cant see the difference between ACTUALLY cherry picking opponents and just wanting to fight people your own skill level. Thats what ranked is for. Fighting people way better or way worse, that is what CASUAL is for. I guess itll make you feel like a big man if you get matched against someone way worse than you and theyre forced to fight you. I mean you're really sitting there and saying "Oh hey, I know I'm way better, I outclass you but hey, just take the L and gimme the points". Now, that is what I'd call bitch made but hey, thats just me.

[@teamguapogames]

​@@TheNatos Red ranks don't get matched up against Blue ranks, and there is a menu that pops up every time you go in to ranked that lets you set your preference for what ranks you want to fight against. You can easily set your preference to people within one rank of your own. "Im not about being punished for losing against people I have no business fighting." Most people are fluctuating in ranked at least one or two ranks, but 3 or 4 ranks is not uncommon. There is no way you're being matched up against people you "have no business fighting" unless you have been gaming the system with one and dones or plugging and now your rank is so inflated that it is irrelevant. The difference between ranks is pretty negligible up until blue ranks, where the difference between a fujin and a kishin is massive.

[@TheNatos]

@@teamguapogames If you dont know then dont speak. red ranks, and even before can match up with blues, first of all. I was green the first time I matched against a Kishin. I think he felt bad about it too because he didnt do anything lol Second, and I didnt think I needed to say this because I thought it was obvious but here we are.. But, as a previous orange and now yellow player, who hovers around 90-110k prowess, it doesnt make any difference if I set the option to +2 only, because I can still be matched against people who are on ALT characters, 250k+ and still clearly outclass me. That setting means nothing. "unless you have been gaming the system with one and dones or plugging and now your rank is so inflated that it is irrelevant." Well someone clearly didnt bother reading and understanding my initial comment.

[@teamguapogames]

@@TheNatos Lmao. What's your ign, or Tekken ID? I want to see all these Blue ranks you're getting matched up with.

[@Tabletopcloud20]

This happens a lot in KI (2013) rank matches, where I'll get cheesed out of win and the person taunts me before leaving.

[@Rodniikun]

I think the only good time to one and done is if someone is playing a character like king and you come back from a 3-0. Then you one and done to rub it in and let them know their character is trash.

[@JustSendMeLocation]

No, only valid excuse for one and done is if your opponent is lagging

[@rodrose8001]

No you still look lame for doing it

[@RealMikeHollow]

Accept all battles or perish 🫵🏾🫵🏾🫵🏾

[@Rodniikun]

@@RealMikeHollow when people don't play characters I don't like, I gotta be toxic, I'm sorry. Lmao

[@snop6176]

They should do it how the old MK games did. The loser can leave, but the winner HAS to stay and fight. It's crazy the winner can leave

[@blackheart59_]

yo bro, amazing video!😂 Ki charging Feng is always satisfying Try playing Steve against Feng and see if you don't get toxic after 2 seconds

[@EnzoAlexandrosBarzini]

One and done is like a drive-by. They mount the curb, empty an entire clip at you then drive off before you can fight back.

[@the-madvillain2636]

If im forced into a bo5 against an alisa or laggy players im dropping the game. Thats ridiculous if i want to one and done thats my business with all the forced 50/50 in this game im not going to rematch 24/7. However rage quitting should be punished i agree the player should just get the points np. However its still an option online its not like the other players personally called you out to a set in that situation your owed a rematch.

[@RealMikeHollow]

I think they've just turned Ranked into a Casual mode with points now. There's no incentive to wanna get better and overcome bad match ups or things that annoy you. It's just GIVE ME MY POINTS and I'm out. Literally neutered what ranked is to appease people that can't be bothered to learn. I don't get why people would play casual mode at this point considering ranked just encourages the same behaviours with rewards.

[@the-madvillain2636]

@@RealMikeHollow no offense but literally idgaf about learning certain matches that are just a pain in the but for all the wrong reasons. It's boring and frustrating winning or losing against them. In sf4 for example I rematched all the time because I felt more in control regardless if lost or won. However it feels mostly everyone is a unga bunga beatdown deck from Yu-Gi-Oh with no setup. Its so bad to the point where I'm seeing Tekken kings and higher with like 20 - 50 defense. I'm sorry but Tekken 8 is a clown fest the way it is right now. I want to see it get better but the mindless consumers and apologists for this product is laughable. I much rather be an honest villain than a dishonest hero to look good for others.

[@dronnovik95]

As much as i hate this thing and against it, i kinda believe in the back of my mind that ability to leave after 1 or 2 matches is a good thing in the end. I can imagine a lot of everyday force major scenarios that will make you 1 and done. I understand that he is not talking about that type of situations, but that comes down to comunity overall being toxic and full of manchildren. Been like that for so many years, i cant even be mad about it. I just expect everyone to leave or press cancel if something goes wrong for them, and actualy appriciate if one rematches. In the end i almost always rematch, but i dont want to be forced to. I like it being my choice, not obligation

[@RealMikeHollow]

It's the logic behind it that baffles me. They wanted to make it closer to a tournament setting, but in a tournament setting the winner can't just leave. They have to finish it or they forfeit everything. If they're following tournament logic for ranked then they need to follow the entire thing and not just pick and choose.

[@dronnovik95]

@@RealMikeHollow after hearing Murray talking about possible lawsuits on penalizing pluggers and cheaters... Lets say i dont believe logic is applicable here

[@Shade84]

​@@RealMikeHollow "Closer to". At the end of the day it's still a game you're playing at home for fun. The logic is there, you simply refuse to accept it.

[@YoDex1]

Hell naw don’t lock shit 😂😂😂 I be robbing people 😂

[@RealMikeHollow]

We got a criminal here, ladies and gents 😂

[@MegaCityGhost]

I wholeheartedly agree with your suggestion about forcing bo5 sets. This is the way.

[@pr1m339]

I mean, there are times when I know I'm at my limit for my own personal reasons, then I don't want to rematch, especially Victor and Alyssa players. If a player plays a certain way or was already annoyed with something else (maybe a Kuma knowledge checked me for example) then of course I'm not gonna want a rematch. Pkayers that rant about rematches its like, bro so what if someone one and done, just move on to the next anyways, the typical "they dont owe tou a rematch" is all needed to be said and that's that, ppl don't owe you one snd there's akways other players to play against anyways

[@judge_rekt]

I don't think one and dones are a big deal. Just a game and so on. BUT... I just thought about something. If the ranked system wouldn't be so bad, people would propably finish more on their own. The way you earn and loose points can be super weird. When you constantly get matched vs higher ranked players and loose more points to them than you get back from a win against them, then something is not balanced in the system itself. They should just make it like this: Win vs a higher rank player, get more points. Loose vs a higher rank player, loose less points. Win vs a lower rank player, get less points. Loose vs a lower rank player, loose more points. With that we wouldn't even need Tekken Power. Then there is also the plugging. When people on red ranks get their ass kicked by blues and then don't get the chance to get their points back, because the one they actually were able to beat plug, I can see why people don't care to finish a set. If you get destroyed by a higher ranked player, but don't loose massive amounts of points for that, they would propably try again, because there is less risk, but a potential higher reward, if you can adapt and play better.

[@JPROP-vb7sv]

Sorry but I'll rematch everyone besides Ling. She has NEVER been this broken before. I refuse

[@JohnGlow2]

I used to one and done Zafina because I hated paying my tax. Then I labbed the matchup and now I try not to one and done unless my opponent has dogshit connection.

[@Cal3000]

Ling is one of the worst characters in the game. If not, the worst character in the game. It's basically a free win for anyone who knows how to play against her.

[@GodKingIssei]

@@Cal3000Ling abuser spotted or bad joke.

[@Cal3000]

@@GodKingIssei having one of the worst win rates in ranked and never making it past top 32 in majors. She’s bottom of the barrel. People are beating her and still complaining that she’s broken while she’s one of the easiest characters to beat.

[@wintermute6384]

There were no Kings at Dreamhack Summer 2024, but nobody thinks King is weak or in need of buffs. Niche, specialist characters aren't preferred by most pros in 8 over meta or stable picks - however, Rangchu proves that it is possible. Average Xiaoyus online (NOT pros) have a bad reputation for defense scores in the 40s and habitual one-and-dones versus anyone who knows the matchup. At red/purple ranks, most Lings are so abysmal at Tekken you wonder how they win at all.

[@MrPastige]

I'm a beginner Tekken / Fighting Game player who just reached Tekken King after grinding like crazy. I personally don't rematch either when I play against a character I haven't labbed yet (I'm constantly labbing new characters and still got like 8 to go) After losing one game to Zafina, while not knowing a single one of her moves, I'm definitely not going to rematch and get my mood down for the rest of the session. Mentality plays a huge role in this game. But I do agree that when you do have character knowledge and lost "fair and square", it's stupid to not rematch. Being good at Tekken is being able to deal with what is being thrown at you. I wouldn't want to play at god level against every character in the game just to play a like a scrub against Zafinas. Lose, rematch, lose again, and watch the replays. You're collecting data. This is how you improve.

[@chaosvii4605]

I one and done all eddies because i dont play them enough to learn their bullshit. I dont care if its lame

[@Eric-yp9nm]

I do the same on super rare gimmicky chars like zafina and leo tbf, its just not fun. Im fine with 95% of the cast though

[@Eric-yp9nm]

And i love to fight eddy lmao

[@bluemanvisions]

Your name checks out.

[@Eric-yp9nm]

Whos name?

[@shuckraxv5258]

@@Eric-yp9nm Yea, once you figure out ways to counter him and block some of his shit, he's a pretty fun fight

[@ggmasterguiltygear6315]

LOVE THIS RANT, hope you have a speedy recovery

[@RealMikeHollow]

Thank you, bro ☝🏾

[@Someguy96Lx]

Imagine the sparking zero rush attack/ki spammer turtles one and done-ing 😂

[@Chandi_Lerald]

Here is anime recommendation "Monster" very hyper realistic tale of a neurosurgeon who was framed for murder by criminal mastermind and he goes on a quest to kill his killer. The most genious story writing ife ever watched, it starts off a bit slow but by episode 20ish it gets amazing. Also much love from canada

[@RealMikeHollow]

Damn, that sounds cool and very different. It's on the list! Do you know which streaming service shows it?

[@merikijiya13]

Monster is one of the legendary animes.

[@Chandi_Lerald]

@@RealMikeHollowI watched it on gogoanime I believe it might be on Netflix as well though

[@bigZAIN187]

There's a lot of characters that are just not fun to play or fight, and if the other player is just notably lower skill I do not want to just take points from them, I want to play a different player that is stronger. Viktor, Xiao, Eddy, Reina, Alisa, Law, I am not gonna play more than 1 match against these characters, particularly online. I don't do mirror matches either, that's just a coaching session the opponent did not pay for.

[@curtisjackson4090]

Ayo Dale is that you?? Lol

[@bigZAIN187]

@@curtisjackson4090 clearly not, Dale the quitter cares about his points kek I just want to fight the strong guy, points cant buy me anything anyways lol

[@Shade84]

If a player seems to be of lower skill and wants to offer up their points to try again, that's their decision to make. It's very arrogant of you to think you're doing them a favor by denying the rematch. And who knows? They might surprise you.

[@bigZAIN187]

@@Shade84 it's also my decision to not be bored playing a lower skilled player. I didn't say anything about a favor, I said I don't want their points.

[@Shade84]

@@bigZAIN187 It's equally as arrogant to think of yourself as the better player based on one match. Many people, including myself, have been almost flawlessly defeated in the first match but came back to win the set. I'm not entirely against one and doning, but this particular reasoning is pure arrogance.

[@watcherman222]

The only times I don't rematch are when the opponent has a bad connection, I suspect them of cheating/lag switching and when something comes up and needs my immediate attention.

[@GTJD111]

Sup MIKE. Me personally, I will rematch again and again in quick match, lobbies and in the lounge. But not in ranked, because if I lose at my rank, I lose way too many points. Also, I'm trying to level up. I don't see ranked for learning a match up, I'lldo that in quick match and lobbies etc. Im trying to get to the highest rank as quickly as possible, as most people would. If I feel I can win, I will rematch , if I feel I'd lose, then there's no logical point to rematch. I'm sure many can relate. To conclude, ranked I'll rematch if I feel I'll win, if not then no as its long losing points and prolonging the leveling up process. Other modes, I'll rematch allllllllll day.

[@teamguapogames]

What do you get for getting a high ranked? Is there some ranked rewards?

[@ragnarok7452]

For me it depends on how good our connection is. If it is stuttery or their PC is red. I won't rematch don't care if they expose me. If it is a rare character, it depends on my mood. Smurfs or toxic players or obvious cheaters don't get rematch. Other time it's just me remembering you quitting the set when it has become 1-1. Or you not giving a rematch after you win but demanding when you lose.

[@TranceCore3]

plays online.... against randoms.... complains about things online players do, and shenanigans. They got in your head. And you made a 15 minute video about it.

[@houstonraver834]

Just say your bitch made

[@LeeZard27]

I'm guilty of this in SF6, but only against players who have a horrendous connection whereas character animations blip (you can't detect full scale movement), game lags and stops sporadically for several seconds, or the game will literally go into slow mo. Otherwise win or lose, I don't mind carrying through with a full set.

[@subzul]

Lemme be totally honest, I played you the other day (you were on Wi-Fi) but respectfully the way you and quite a lot of players play is this aggressive random playstyle that’s hard to read because it feels like you’re not playing with how I lay in mind. So it becomes this random brawling match. I would 1 and done this type of match for two reasons other than connection. 1 the gameplay is just random and not fun cause it doesn’t feel like I’m thinking to outplay you and vice versa and 2 it’s a best of 3 there’s not enough time to see all your little micro patterns so it just isn’t fun for me. Not hating just giving you my perspective.

[@BMKidProductions]

The ONLY time when I do one and dones in ranked matches(whether I win or lose) is when Im against players with terrible connection.

[@brodyb1985]

I absolutely hate Feng

[@darkherostardustchannel3699]

I play multiple fighting games, these things happen in all fighting games but I've noticed it's more noticeable in Tekken compared to say Street Fighter, Guilty Gear, heck even Mortal Kombat. Maximillion Dood even did a vid on this.

[@dragonz9688]

LOL DAMN DIS GONNA BE GOOD

[@Shedrick_Goldsmith]

Best of 5 would be lit, you know how much faster the community would gain knowledge on match ups? Wishful thinking. I get one and dones all the time usually when I win the first match

[@Carlo-j9z]

Stop whining, nobody owes you a rematch, not a single person, they don't even have to offer a reason.

[@RealMikeHollow]

I will not stop whining and hopefully by not stopping my whining, they'll change ranked like they've made changes elsewhere because of whining so that you'll be locked in the match with me 😊

[@Carlo-j9z]

@@RealMikeHollow They make changes despite your whining, its kinda sad people think that your collective tantrums are a cause for anything good. I get even less rematches than before the patch, ill have to feed them one and take two just to give them the feeling they can win a match. How does a defensive buff make people even more skittish? It doesn't matter, if they accept I'll accept, if they don't accept i won't accept, i don't wanna fight people who don't want to fight me, they are good to pick their own battles. If they assume the opponent being too strong than perhaps its just good judgement on their part, i can respect that, but i don't respect whining.

[@lnazumaKanon]

Sincerely .. From a fighting game player of 14 years … You don’t deserve a run back ever. The only people who deserve a rematch ever Is a practicing friend, Or a post session grudge match. There’s no room for ego and pettiness in fighting games. Your there for fun and refinement, or your personally stunning it exclusively firing at ranked. Recent fighting players have so much peros anger and self pedistolization that i can never sympathize with anyone crying about one and dones. Again not to be rude and I am not attacking you. no one deserves a run back, if you start clambering you need to figure yourself out and chill on the self idolizations of your skills … Again, sorry I don’t mean to upset with my comment if it does, it’s just the reality of everything in the world

[@RealMikeHollow]

Doesn't upset me but also doesn't make sense to me. Tekken 8s ranked was changed to be more in line with how they do it at tournaments and at tournaments you are owed a run back or you forfeit and get a DQ. That's what people are asking for here. You can leave if you want, no problem, but leave your points with it. I guarantee you that'll stop people from leaving so much. Has nothing to do with self idolisation. It's just that people wanna have a proper fight but everyone's so worried about their precious rank that they just go rather than trying to get better. This is why we had casual mode in the first place.

[@lnazumaKanon]

@@RealMikeHollow I have comments and mentioend turned off becuase people spam me with touched a nerve. I’m not talking about Tekken, it’s about the ego of the person in the genere of games, I actually respect that you don’t see it how I do Becuase there integrity. I got a very rare situation no one else will, the person who trained me and beat me over 700 times in 1 year with a meme character faked death, appeared against me in a ranked match and had to adress me when I messaged them… They taught me how to play and got me probably the most loyal and genuine gamer friend I ever had… He coulda left and ignored all my messages about seeing him alive … I know you won’t get it but you gotta get to your not the alpha or the deck, or the fan Your playing ranked for clout… Weather you think you deserve a rerun and weather they do or not is not a point of contention, you just gotta get you are better then the ones not refighting you, and you gotta get they have a lot of personal gripes on the lien plus commitments where if you play for glory… M some okay to destreza from kids, life, ex’s, stupidity, anything

[@lnazumaKanon]

@@RealMikeHollow imma subscribe to you actually .. Your a genuine comabtent and maybe if I get unrusty and stop hating footsies verses 2013 Arksystems take over maybe we could game one day and flex ideals in a situations here we both respect and get eachother a little, you need a consistent fighter not a fatigued fustration person who’s just playing to play :/

[@lnazumaKanon]

Irrelivant to this, I REALLY hope peopel have respected you skill in game cuz your not a slouch, if that’s your gameplay.. Your remind me of a Young Fate Typhoon, the scariest Teddybear you will see.. You just need a rival not a hot spot to target your Genuinly a great player that needs a Genuine goku/Vegeta

[@Burning_Typhoon]

You shouldn't be forced into a set unless you rematch.100% OF The time I do it, I'm doing it out of spite. But there's various reasons for playing one game. But if you go for the rematch, you should get locked in for a full set of three, or dont rematch at all.