THIS IS HARD TO DO! Building New Framed Floor over Concrete Floor...

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THIS IS HARD TO DO! Building New Framed Floor over Concrete Floor...
I'm turning my garage space into a shop/studio...and down the road I may even turn into into an apartment.
The problem is, the garage floor has a pronounced slope to it (roughly 4" of fall from the back of the room to the front). That makes for a pretty bad shop floor surface!
So, I framed in a new SLEEPER FLOOR, which would be flat on top, but match the uneven slope of the room underneath. Check out this week's video to see how we did it!
The Honest Carpenter

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@yodaiam1000 Ай бұрын

Especially if you have bowed framing, it is a good idea to add intermediate blocking. It helps take the bow out and keep everything aligned with the plywood edges. It also helps to add more stability.

@tristanmartinez2667 25 күн бұрын

He’s gonna run plumbing later, makes no sense to block it now

@yodaiam1000 24 күн бұрын

@@tristanmartinez2667 You can still block. You just knock out the block where you need a pipe. The same thing applies to a typical floor.

@LumberjackPa Ай бұрын

I, for one, would be interested in seeing that collated screw gun doodad. As a basic non-construction homeowner, I will never have a need for it, but it's a gadget, and I love gadgets! Thanks for sharing!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

I will definitely show it, Lumberjack! I think you can rent them pretty cheaply. It’s a lifesaver! 😁

@FredD63 Ай бұрын

There are cordless drivers available from DeWalt and Milwaukee also

@greentjmtl Ай бұрын

It's just a long nose drywall gun, probably geared lower for higher torque. Incidentally a drywall gun works great for flooring too, the latest gen brushless guns can drive 2.5 inch screws into wood at 4000 RPM.

@MattHmm-rq6dn Ай бұрын

I use my dewalt 20v xr drywall gun for subfloor backerboard hardie plank (with stainless screws) fence pickets as well. All code proper and fast to install no nail guns air hoses compressers.

@BillLaBrie 9 күн бұрын

I’ve got one. Takes some skill to use. I went through a few bits before I figured it out.

@ImOnAJourney Ай бұрын

Nice. I like how you dealt with the floor slope, and the joist tape looks like something I could use in an upcoming project. But most of all … thank you AJ, for the invaluable help you supplied Ethan with!!

@markb.1259 Ай бұрын

You make EXCELLENT content Ethan.... Please make MORE!!! Nice to meet you AJ!!!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you, Mark! Will do 😁

@rpezman24 Ай бұрын

I learned so much from you. Just the way you explain things and really live up to your name as the honest Carpenter. You are truly an OG. Great video!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@dbpool Ай бұрын

no mention of electrical and heat etc... apparently where you are you don't need either... i'm working on a 24'x24' garage conversion, with cement that's cracked, uneven and dropped 4-5" in one corner... so nice even joists aren't even conceivable... i went with essentially floating deck idea - 2x6 with joist hangars with occasional shims to prevent any possible deflection. ran 5'" heat venting for 3 heat vents, and though it was "minimal" i did a 5" air intake on stairwell to suck air back to furnace... ran a dimpled plastic on top of cement to allow air movement / moisture barrier, then 6" of rock wool insulation, then my 3/4" sub-floor... working now on connecting 3 - 5" heat pipes to a 8"x12" air plenum running back to house main plain plenum, which i had to cut 8"x16" through concrete basement wall... also running build-in vac tubing, network and tv cabling through same hole... along with 3 14ga 14/2 15 amp lines for outlets and lights, and a single 20 amp line through walls to an external outlet...

@tonybowers9490 Ай бұрын

I'm enlosing my covered deck. I wanted to walk into the new room level with my home, so I raised it in a very similar way. Also, the decking wasn't level, so I both raised and leveled it. I a laser to mark my joists. I confirmed the height I needed the laser beam to be and placed the laser in the center of the deck. Then, placed the outer joists first and worked to the center ones. Marking each one via the laser. Then, as you did, ripped each one with my circular saw. I too had to shim a few places. I then glued & screwed the angled joists over the existing decking (I left the decking in place). I used the same subfloor product as you and glued & screwed it to the angled joists. Those sheets are HEAVY ! ! ! 80 lbs each! The initial floor had some bounce, but not now. I sort of laminated 2 floors together, so I suppose there would be very little flex. Great video and thanks for sharing. I learned that what I made was a Sleeper Floor! Good to know!

@ST-0311 Ай бұрын

Nice floor. Tongue and groove is a royal PIA solo. Especially when the sheeting is bowed or cupped. When using a beater board it helps to have someone standing on the tongue side. That person shifts their weight to push the tongue in alignment with the groove of the previous board. Also, don't swing that sledge or mull too hard. Jamming a misaligned tongue against the previous board will splinter it. Then it has to be pulled back out and cleaned up. Ask me how I know. Good idea using screws. However, be aware the entire floor has to be removed from the front back to where you run utilities, then laid back down all over again. The tongue and groove interlocks won't allow you to lift a single sheet out on the middle. I know how it is: Wanting to get something done. To be honest, I would have roughed in plumbing and electrical before the sub-floor went down. Again, ask me how I know.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

All good points, Magius! I would indeed highly recommend inspecting t&g sheets before installing…and not beating them to pieces! They’re tough when walked on, but kind of sensitive when they’re getting moved around. And I wish I could have roughed electrical and plumbing first, but I’ve just had to move so quickly for the shop/studio remodel that I couldn’t wait! Business calls 😵

@adamdejesus4017 Ай бұрын

Great video! I just did this about 6 months ago in a partially-converted garage to make a bonus room. There was some evidence of moisture coming in, I wish I had used the joist tape. BUT...a friend who is a home inspector suggested that if the space is conditioned, I could add 4-6 "sleeper" floor registers that don't connect to anything, just allow a path to exchange air and remove moisture down to the slab. I went with it. Hey...it's something!

@thomasmoran168 5 күн бұрын

I have done two projects of this sort: One was to level the floor of a horse barn, and the other to level a former garage. Sleepers work beautifully for this. In my case, I got to a point where I had only 3/4" (down to zero) that needed to be leveled. So, I caulked around the edges of that last section and then used self-leveling compound which finished the job nicely. It is wonderful to be able to run utilities under the floor. I actually installed a couple of floor receptacles (120V and 240V) for heavy equipment. Many of the sleepers that I cut had to be slightly angled and were 1" or less in thickness, so I "freehand" cut them (sighting along pencil-drawn lines) out of 8-foot PT 2x4's using a table saw. Gives more control cutting narrow boards. Since my sleepers were relatively narrow (thin?), I placed them 12" OC. You could park a truck on those floors. Plus, I was tiling one of the floors and was going to be rolling heavy equipment on it and did NOT want it to crack. (It hasn't so far 😎.) I hear you on the mixed quality of delivered lumber. Only once have I ordered wood for delivery, and that was just some plain 8' 2x4 studs. I just prefer to pick it out myself. Anyway, thanks for the video!

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 күн бұрын

Thanks Thomas! I appreciate the project notes. I did this another time in a house I rented (the basement) and had to map the room with measurements dropped from control lines because the slope crossed diagonally through the room. Took forever to cut those joists!

@fredjordway5211 28 күн бұрын

A couple questions ; 1. Since you didn't use treated lumber, what about using a product like Jasco or another copper naphthenate product to protect against moisture, mildew, rot and termites ? 2. What about vents for air circulation to prevent moisture buildup and wicking ?

@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor 24 күн бұрын

Treated lumber will split and check,distort. It can be toxic for an indoor project

@fredjordway5211 24 күн бұрын

I was a little confused with the building code requirements, depending on the local codes, it seems that there is a requirement for pressure treated wood that is in contact with concrete. I did see where some contractors use an underlayment type gasket in place of pressure treated lumber. On my new construction in Nevada, the contractor used both. Also, copper naphthenate coating on floor joists would not be pressure treated, it may be toxic, but with a vapor barrier, may not hazardous. I did help on a repair where a patio deck was over a garage with no ventilation, at some point moisture formed and led to mold and dry rot of the 2x12 joists and plywood subfloor. It was found when he stepped through the deck floor.

@naturesedgewoodwork 20 күн бұрын

@fredjordway5211 this build was subpar in every way.

@oakenarm Ай бұрын

Ethan this was a great video. We will be building a Barndo soon and did NOT want to be stuck walking on a concrete slab in our old age. The plan is to the entire house with this type of sleeper floor. Thanks for all the useful content.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

That's awesome! Wood over concrete any day for me. 😄

@arajalali Ай бұрын

Really nice tip there Ethan. Thanks a lot.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you, Arash! 😄

@mickbrown942 Ай бұрын

You gave some good tips as I’m tackling a sleeper/floating floor for under a 40x60 wedding tent. Should be fun trying to level it…

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

That’s a big one, Mick! I hope some of these tips help. Good luck!

@garymiller5937 Ай бұрын

Cool 😎 video, Ethan. It was very interesting and enjoyable, not to mention being very informative. I wouldn't have had any idea how to tackle a problem like that. 😃😃😃😃

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you, Gary! It’s always a bit of a head scratcher for me too 😄

@garymiller5937 Ай бұрын

@@TheHonestCarpenter It looks just super to me! 😃😃😃

@smokinfasts1973 20 күн бұрын

CA building code says to epoxy the concrete prior to framing since there’s no ventilation under the subfloor and P/T framing though out would be a better choice in this situation. Not trying to troll. You put a lot of thought into this. Good job

@michaeldalton8374 24 күн бұрын

My only critique is that walk through doorway. If it’s getting filled in with wall, it’s fine. If a door is going back in, I might have made a 40”x40” cut out with a step up.

@markraisner9000 Ай бұрын

A question, you are using tongue and groove boards and you have added some screws to hold them down for now, being that the boards are interlocked won't it be hard to lift them up to run your wiring/plumbing?

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Years down the line I’ll have to take them up in sequential order. But that’s a long time from now!

@Gizmo82477 21 күн бұрын

Nice job. I did a few like this on crooked concrete and I used 2x6. With proper shims every 3 feet

@Kevinrichardsonministries Ай бұрын

As I live in Termite Central here in the Philippines... I would have pre-treated that wood for drywood termites and subs. You can protect against the subs by trenching and filling said trench with a termiticide on the outside of the building but you won't have any protection for drywood termites. Heck, a lot of the wood available to me already has drywoods when I get it, so my paranoia is justified, at least in my part of the planet. The mileage of other may vary... One can go online to... Do Your Own Pest Control and buy a product called Termidor SC and have a ball. It last a very long time and it's great for ants as well. All of this said... Thanks for the video Ethan. Notes made... and Thumbs Up !! Nice Looking Job...

@jeffp5991 Ай бұрын

Great solution. Did you do anything to compensate for the slope on the bumpout? The way I understood it, that's what you used for you reference of "level". Btw ...glad you used the joist tape. I did an "omg" when you were putting untreated lumber against concrete. If you're ever trying to determine how dry a floor is, tape all 4 sides of plastic sheet to the concrete for a couple of days. If there's any moisture there will be condensation when you remove it. I hope you enjoy the new space!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Great tip, Jeff! And the bump-out itself was fairly level. Just the slab was heavily sloped!

@MrTravisarnold Ай бұрын

I thought the masonry edge wasn't level but that seems to be what you are cutting your joists too. Did I hear that wrong?

@jacobb7639 Ай бұрын

Do you have plastic under the slab? If not, you should've put a vapor barrier between the concrete and floor framing. 6 mil or greater plastic or fluid applied. Also, why no insulation in the floor?

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Foundation has a vapor barrier. And insulation will come later when I convert from shop to an apartment.

@andrewrohde2373 Ай бұрын

Nice job. Two comments though: 1. Some cross bracing would be nice. 2. You mentioned installing some plumbing later under the new floor, and that is the reason you didn't fully screw the sheathing down. But you went out of your way to use tongue and groove sheathing. Did you not notice that the tongues will prevent you from just unscrewing one sheet and lifting it up? I mean you can do it, but some damage is going to happen. Or am I missing something here? Please let me know if I am.

@jobacuda4472 Ай бұрын

1. What would the cross bracing achieve? 2. He's pulling it all up.

@Bob-cx4ze Ай бұрын

I hope your moisture under the slab is well managed. That always worries me when people take an iffy garage, or especially basement, cement floor and just cover it up

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Sealed foundation

@jobacuda4472 Ай бұрын

If the perimeter of the foundation sheds water, virtually no moisture comes up through the slab. Plus, there is 6mil plastic under the slab.

@Bob-cx4ze Ай бұрын

@jobacuda4472 While that's ideal, I can tell you from experience that many slabs either don't have adequate moisture mitigation or it was originally installed, but failed partially or completely at some point. Of course, there are a ton of variables which make this more or less of an issue, but for anyone thinking of doing this, it is a must-consider item or you could have serious problems and costs later. An easy, but not exhaustive, check for potential issues could be as simple as covering portions of the floor in sample areas with plastic taped down. If you have significant moisture intrusion, you may see water beading on the plastic

@MattHmm-rq6dn Ай бұрын

A tip for thoes already with a dewalt senco or any drywall gun with a collated attachment you can use it for subfloor backerboard (tile) and hardie siding just buy the correct screws. We install all of that and don't have to have a specific standing gun. No blocking? I would personally like to keep it quieter by adding some basic blocking even if it's only 2x6. Fyi backerboard screws work for subfloor as well if there long enough they never back outland the heads are nice and flush.

@MattHmm-rq6dn Ай бұрын

Fences too way faster than a impact.

@jmi967 20 күн бұрын

You should’ve soundproofed it while you were at it. It's more expensive and more difficult, but would have been well worth it for a studio and a good selling point for an apartment.

@harlanborders943 Ай бұрын

The floor job looks good,believe I’d put Tap-cons in with the glue. Probably just over kill on my part, otherwise looks good

@tealkerberus748 Ай бұрын

I'd never trust the vapour barrier under a slab for anything - even if the room seems dry, with that wide-open garage door you can have quite a lot of moisture coming up through the floor and you'd never know about it. Protecting your timber is the right choice. I'd go a step further, and look for a way to dehumidify the space under your timber flooring. You just closed off the ventilation to the slab, so if there is any moisture it's just going to accumulate now.

@garyglenn3654 Ай бұрын

Big job. Nice work.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you, Gary! Glad to have that one knocked out.

@michaellacaria910 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the detailed video, and as usual, your videos are wonderful to listen to. I would love to do this on my garage but I still need to use it for winter parking. One comment on the joist tape, I built a deck and that stuff is very expensive. I’m assuming you’re trying to save money because you didn’t buy PT lumber, so instead of that tape you could use the standard sill plate foam/poly (?) used in construction, it comes in a nice roll and its used where wood meets concrete. Or even cheaper, a thick polyvinyl you can cut your self, doesn’t have to be pretty since its covered.

@dougdiplacido2406 Ай бұрын

I like your helper. Dependable and does not give any backtalk. Great job and thanks for sharing.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

😆

@andrealavigne7824 Ай бұрын

Great job, Ethan! I could feel your pain about the tongue-&-groove situation. My mom & I installed LVP flooring - which of course was T&G - in part of our kitchen a few years ago. I don't know what the problem was, but in many of the planks the tongues just broke right off, rendering those planks useless. We went through the required amount for the size of the floor, the waste amount I'd added to the purchase, & still had to buy another box or 2 to finish! It was not cheap flooring, either, so that made it even more aggravating. My mom said never again, & I tend to agree, at least with LVP. I had previously worked with engineered hardwood, which was not nearly as finicky, so that I would do again. I'm sorry to hear about your lumber woes, too. I know it's not always practical, but that's why I have pretty much always picked my own lumber. I just have trust issues that way. Thankfully, I have never had to get so much that I couldn't sift through & get good boards. In fact, the only wood I've ever had picked for me - at least within the past 30 years - was plywood from a local lumberyard, & only because that's just how they do it. Anyway, thank you for this informative video. I look forward to seeing more projects from your garage conversion. Hope you have a wonderful day!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thanks Andrea! Ugggh, sorry to hear about the LVP. That can turn a job into a nightmare😖 I’m teaming up with some great electricians this week though. We’ll have some more cool garage videos soon!

@iworkforwendys 16 күн бұрын

might be hard work, but man is it fun and looks good when your all done

@user-em6ie2be7x Ай бұрын

I had a similar problem, I had to repair a floor completely rotted by water damage, & basically had to rebuild it from scratch. Thankfully a few major floor studs & Long, thick Floor boards & it only took about 2 Days to fix. 👷🏿‍♂️

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Good to hear, W! Floor structure is always labor intensive to rebuild, especially when the unit is already in a finished space. Glad it went well though!

@ajsorensen2585 Ай бұрын

Would not clear the groove with your finger 😲 sure it will work until you get a giant splinter in your finger or worse under your fingernails! Definitely use a screwdriver or anything else to get rid of chips in the groove 👍

@cejkwo100 Ай бұрын

What do you do a about the doors leading into the garage. Looks like entry door is going to be 50” high.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Raising it next week, John. Just need to reframe the header.

@eflightfloat9026 22 күн бұрын

It was hard watch you... And then when you slid those plastic shims in without being bedded in adhesive caulk to keep them from walking out over time... I couldn't handle watching you anymore 🧐

@pcatful Ай бұрын

I’d put pressure treated joists over a vapor barrier.

@brokenwrench404 Ай бұрын

No vapor barrier? My garage conversion has 2 dehumidifier’s that need to be emptied weekly

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Vapor barrier is under the slab!

@gsilcoful Ай бұрын

Thanks. Very good.

@RLHStudioWoodwork Ай бұрын

Great video. What is the intended use for this room?

@davidkahler9390 Ай бұрын

The advantech I got was super beat up too. I think they hand select it for the sponsored videos

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

I should have tried for the sponsorship, David 😵

@fxaltieri 10 күн бұрын

Great video as always!

@TheHonestCarpenter 10 күн бұрын

Thanks, Frank!

@zionosphere Ай бұрын

Another great video! I look forward to following the rest of this project. I am totally inexperienced with this, but I would have thought 20" in between might have allowed too much sagging for the heavy shop equipment. It's the 3/4" subfloor that makes up for this, isn't it? I'm guessing this wouldn't work with 15/32" subfloor. Also, could this have been leveled by adding more concrete on it? That might be more trouble than this would have been.

@timothycreasy2161 Ай бұрын

I was exspecting a few cross braces to be in there in the field. But you and Ms. A J are the pros. The floor looks nice so far.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Bracing mostly helps counteract deflection and twisting, Timothy. But with the firm slab directly below, there’s nowhere for the joists to move. They’re plenty strong enough to take the compression weight without bowing!

@timothycreasy2161 Ай бұрын

@@TheHonestCarpenter that makes sense, it is not suspended. Thank you for the explanation Mr. Ethan

@woodmasterguy Ай бұрын

When I fill in step-down living rooms/dens. I just go from top of bottom wall plate across the room to the opposite top of bottom wall plate with my chalk line against each joist layed out, simply snap lines directly on the joist. Cut that chalk line, then loctite the cut edge down to the concrete. Then sheet. Perfect level for flooring. If the span is long, then I add blocking for twisting.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Good tip!! I can see that working well. Not sure I could pull it off on this 24’ span, but the fundamentals are pretty similar between our two approaches. 👍

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Good tip!! I can see that working well. Not sure I could pull it off on this 24’ span, but the fundamentals are pretty similar between our two approaches. 👍

@benjaminbrewer2569 18 күн бұрын

I’ve done this with 2x4 sleepers and loads of shims. I forget if we did 16 on center or 24 on center..

@David.M. Ай бұрын

Great video, thanks Ethan

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you, David!

@ephemeric8937 Ай бұрын

This really shows the importance of a basic understanding of woodworking. Thinking outside the box is only possible with good fundamentals

@charlesknight3204 Ай бұрын

Ethan … GREAT VIDEO; better job!!! I always learn something new when I watch your videos!!! Thank you!!!!! Until your next video and beyond, take care, be safe, and God bless!!! Chuck Knight from Atascocita (Houston), Texas. 😵‍💫👨‍🌾😵‍💫😅

@davidunwin7868 Ай бұрын

If all the subfloor is interlocking, how are you going to pull it up later if the window and door is in. Won't that stop you being able to undo the interlock?

@jobacuda4472 Ай бұрын

He's going to pull it all up, have the plumbing done, then relay it.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

I just left a gap at the front of the room. I only need about 1/2” to kick them out.

@wattheheck6010 Ай бұрын

Fascinating.

@jamesmedina2119 27 күн бұрын

Should've placed a thick plastic down as a moisture barrier, then insulated between the floor joints

@KMSchriver Ай бұрын

Awesome work. Can you share in a little more detail when CA is reasonable compared to mechanical? Like pros and cons like you did with nails and screws. Good work on this floor. Lumber is tough now-a-days….you can’t throw it all away.

@kenactofkindness4017 Ай бұрын

VAPOR BARRIER PRO TIP , dbl sure , life long tip retired civil eng, 40 yrs exp hands on in the fiel

@richvail7551 Ай бұрын

Lumber is like this in Canada as well, straight from the mill and lots of warping. I have a wood mill and I can cut better lumber on that than what I bought. I had no choice to buy my lumber cause my building is in town limits. Even though the lumber was not the greatest I found that I was able to get a pretty decent building by following a few simple instructions. Mark the crowns and use all the lumber crowns out for less wavy walls and floors. Also the proper floor screws and glue are a must for putting the plywood on the joists. My neighbour didn’t do this and he’s spent lots of time later dealing with many areas of squeaky floor. Mine has no squeaks at all and the glue and proper screws were definitely not a budget killer.

@jasonwells9050 Ай бұрын

Great video Ethan I know how frustrating it can be when you get bad lumber in a lumber order a lot of times what I've done which I'm sure you have done also is I'll talk to the guys that that are going to be building my lumber order and tell them what I am using the lumber for and most of the time that will take care of it I'm looking forward to seeing how your home comes together especially that workshop in the garage

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you, Jason! That’s a great point. I had a really good relationship with a couple lumberyards around here before, but lost those contacts when I moved back where after the pandemic. I’m sort of starting over again. Searching for my trustworthy suppliers. At some l want to make a video on finding and interacting with good lumberyards!

@jasonwells9050 Ай бұрын

@@TheHonestCarpenter contacts are a great thing it comes down to the simple thing with most lumber yards I think of just giving respect and commanding respect

@nathangardner772 Ай бұрын

Just did this, but I have excess headroom so I did 2x6 pt plates epoxy with 5/8 galvanized rod holding all that down. Then I just tapered 4x8’s the long way and used them as girders. Took all the floor slope out in the 4x8. Think it’s 5 1/4 ish on the short side. Then 2x10, insulation, 3/4 subfloor. Doing walls now.

@frankmgallo Ай бұрын

Ethan Keep her around your going to need her. Also it’s great to have someone that knows what she’s doing. Waiting on the next one.

@anneoreilly4900 Ай бұрын

I appreciate all the details even tho I'll never have a project like this.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thanks Anne! You never know, a few of the leveling/marking principles might help with smaller projects 🙂

@davidmcgee2126 Ай бұрын

I don’t know why you were in such a hurry to get that sheeting down before your plumbing??? A lot of extra work and frustration But on wood sheeting I screw RV grab handles to make moving and positioning easier. The cheap plastic ones nothing fancy. If there is an RV repair shop close by you can probably get them for free. Just about any crate from a RV manufacturer has them. I know I have a box of them and quit collecting and throw away. No prying edges Easy to use lifting straps with too I see them on Amazon for 5-10 bucks Much easier than screw heads to pull up sheets with. And if you get enough for free you add grab handles to things just for convenience

@bensoong3040 Ай бұрын

mortar sanding with a brick was brilliant

@aknorth1053 23 күн бұрын

I am a bit confused you said that the concrete rim was not level but using the mason string you use it as a reference to pull the height of one end of the joists. Wouldn't the discrepancy in the concrete rim be translated to the joists?

@TheHonestCarpenter 23 күн бұрын

It gets spread across all the joists, but it’s only 1/2” roughly, so it’s a negligible amount in a room this big.

@benpatana7664 Ай бұрын

I like what you have done but I'm assuming you wouldn't use this system in a room like a laundry, where there is a real risk of flooding or seepage through the floor? Any water would effectively sit on the subfloor. Or maybe it is a case of using a waterproof floor covering like vinyl to prevent any water ingress.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Would definitely have a finished floor, Ben! Probably an LVP floor. But flood damage risk is about the same as usual. At least the concrete can’t rot, and the joist cavities would dry out from the HVAC system!

@sonnymylovesosweat Ай бұрын

No blockings??

@ericarachel55 Ай бұрын

did your helper at least cook the fish for dinner and invite you? Great job, been thinking about a floating floor for my garage due to bad concrete but I wont go with anything more than a 2x2 sleeper with 12" centers due to an unusally low garage door

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

My helper seems intent on keeping that fish, Erica. 😂 I see what you mean about the low garage door. I’ve done similar methods for smaller floors too. Good luck with the project if you tackle it in the future!

@benoithudson7235 Ай бұрын

Those OSB connectors work great, that's why my previous owner used them on the deck. ... Yes, outside, in the rain.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

🤦‍♂️

@tristanmartinez2667 25 күн бұрын

They did our boy Ethan dirty with that lumber package, if I’m that supplier I’m embarrassed and offering a discount

@noreenjames1392 Ай бұрын

Hahaha love your helper.😄

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Came with the house! 😆👍

@thor8491 Ай бұрын

I don't understand airspace below sleeper floor... Won't mold grow in damp environment against concrete floor. No air flow requirements?

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

This should be fine. I’m installing a mini-split in this room, and the air cycling will circulate the joist bays as well. There are lots of little cracks and nooks for air to escape and transfer. Plus the floor really has been bone dry this entire times. That’s why we started sealing foundations!

@joshuawiedenbeck6944 Ай бұрын

You are correct. There is a danger of moisture in this situation. Maybe not from outside, but condensation from differing temperatures can also cause moisture issues. Code requires a vapor barrier under all concrete slabs that will be in conditioned spaces. Since this slab wasn't originally in a conditioned space, there's a pretty good chance that there's no vapor barrier.

@normbograham Ай бұрын

We did this 30 years ago? we laid a pressure treated 2x4, on the slab, with sill seam under the board. We ran a 1x4, on top, and milled it down to level, using a power planner. Put down a house wrap of the day, then screwed another 2x4 on top, and then put down hardwood. (lol). Yep, 30 years ago. We had 7' ceilings, so, a 2x12 was not an option.

@TheTiffanyAching Ай бұрын

Thanks, Ethan, and thanks for the link to AJ's channel. I'm excited to watch it grow!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Absolutely, thanks for watching! AJ already has footings poured on a new build for a strawbale house. I think she’s going to start posting updates soon! 😄

@LLPOF Ай бұрын

I love your channel. You seem like a great guy and I hope you do well on youtube.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you so much!! 😄🙏

@markbell1 Ай бұрын

Great content! Wonderful watching true pros work and problem solve. Thank you both!

@monkeygraborange Ай бұрын

Your pride in home ownership is palpable. Feels goid, doesn’t it? 👍

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you, Monkey! It does indeed 😁

@RUGG40 Ай бұрын

Nice!!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thanks!!

@Slaphappy-_- Ай бұрын

Holy moly I was wanting one of my KZbinrs to tackle this!!! As I have this project waiting for me!!!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

That’s awesome! I’m glad this one showed up in time. Good luck with it! With the right layout techniques, it actually goes pretty quickly. 😁

@kenb3552 Ай бұрын

Why would you do this? That space underneath will lack ventilation and be a great place for mold growth. Also a great place for vermin to nest. God help you if the area ever gets even a little water in it. Why not just coat the existing floor with a high quality epoxy or some other coating?

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

The underfloor will circulate with the hvac. Even if a pipe bursts later on, that’s no different from a typical leak-you fix, and it’ll dry out over time. Vermin try to nest in every house. You just catch them. But as I mentioned, the floor is too heavily sloped to be a good shop surface, and I’ll plumb this room later.

@johncostello3162 Ай бұрын

You made a mistake in not using vapor barrier between floor and wood; air flow is necessary, your rim joist should have been joined on a floor joist. Pretty good job but wouldn’t pass in California or snow country

@MrChristiangraham Ай бұрын

Love the beater bar idea. Thanks both!

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thanks Christian! That’s speeds things up sooo much 😁

@chelolelo Ай бұрын

Didnt glue the subfloor sheets down?

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

I need to take them back up when we remodel!

@serchme54 Ай бұрын

You should have sealed the concrete floor before you started to prevent moisture from passing though and causing mold under the framing.

@craigsimons2217 Ай бұрын

Great video. I’m looking forward to seeing your process and progress on this project! Good luck!

@makatanau2878 Ай бұрын

Good job! Thank you for detailed info on the project! Waiting for the next one!

@macsloan58 Ай бұрын

Why not just use plywood? You wouldn’t have to fight the tongue and groove?

@jerrycroner9221 Ай бұрын

My best guess is strength from the tongue & groove. As well as the way they would line up tight w/zero gaps.

@user-qn3nm8cv8y Ай бұрын

are you concerned that treated joists may signifigantly shrink and the associated issues?

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Joist are untreated! That’s why I used the joist tape for the undersides. Only the bands at front and back are treated, and they’re already cut to be below floor level.

@leviathanx0815 Ай бұрын

People here would have filled the void spaces with drop-in insulation.. The insulation stuff you get in the bags to fill cavities...

@michaelkulczyk8642 29 күн бұрын

I am surprised that with your experience and fame you do not have a supplier that would give you better wood. Maybe if you had one that you could state on camera -- naming them them -- and say what a good batch of wood you got, they might do a better job.

@ohitsustu1835 Ай бұрын

You could interpolate the firings.

@nnamrehck Ай бұрын

AJ is one good-looking master carpenter!

@markraisner9000 Ай бұрын

Great video, looking forward to the completion.

@AC-gm6bq Ай бұрын

Why not insulate below the floor?

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

It’s just a shop for now. I’ll insulate later when we convert to an apartment, after we run plumbing.

@gregmgm06 Ай бұрын

Excellent......really liked this project!

@CoolSteve77 Ай бұрын

I dread doing any framing projects anymore because of the terrible quality of lumber that is available.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Definitely have to hold your breath when the truck shows up sometimes, Steve 😬

@gusmueller4413 26 күн бұрын

i'd rather have the headroom and waterproofness of concrete

@kazesim88 Ай бұрын

Great video! I learn more from watching pros tackle oddball projects like this than on new construction.

@TheHonestCarpenter Ай бұрын

Thank you, Matt! I definitely wanted to document this one a little bit because it was such a weird but necessary step for the garage remodel. Always have to deal with the unique jobsite conditions on projects like this. I’m glad it was helpful-this solution really made it pretty easy!