Faction Focus 2024 Ogor Mawtribes

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

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[@darkjester53]

Are these DDP for EU shipping? Or can I expect possible VAT charges and Duty Tax?

[@TheGImp1214]

This thumbnail is like rob was looking bored at a party then someone was taking a picture and he tried to look excited but the camera caught him midway through the pose

[@Buiserd]

Honestly, don't care about power level but the Hungry/Eating mechanic was just fun and evocative and I remember telling about it to a friend that purely plays Warcry and him thinking that was hilarious.

[@bob_jim6584]

I've been looking at these guys for a minute now and was waiting until this edition to decide. I think I'm still interested in them. I want an army with a smaller amount of models needed and don't want to do all giants. Their lore is also cool to me. Problem is that I told my friend i would go half on the starter box so he can finally get his skaven. Which is great because hopefully he will get into AoS. I guess I can just sell the stormcast but it will probably go in the closet with all the other grey shame. Lets go algorithm!!!

[@kennylull2470]

Played first full/real game 4th yesterday and we used your new objective markers and I loved them! Gonna order some for myself.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Glad you like them!

[@snackshaq5669]

22:08 why RIP the Firebelly? Is it rumored to be going away? It's my favorite model that I ever painted

[@DaPhatNerd]

Did I hear somewhere that the Companion keyword means that weapon profile can not benefit from All Out Attack/ +1 to hit?

[@seanwilliams7073]

As a Gutbusters player who has experienced this now for years, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed

[@dalisgalvin21]

I'm looking to get into Ogors but I'm guessing this is the wrong time to buy a load. They feel like they'd be next in line for a refresh?

[@MrBoadini]

The way I read the glutton ability is that after I have used the feast ability. My first toe on an objective would get the bonuses. So if I had 6 models in the unit my first toe would be 2(base)+6(passive)+1(std bearer) on an objective. Add a second model. For another 2 and suddenly you're above 10 which is what I usually measure objective capture against. I think the ability on the glutton scroll is great.

[@reaver11122]

You're reading it as each MODEL will have +6 control? That's... Not how it works

[@MrBoadini]

@@reaver11122 no I'm reading it as the unit gets +6 control. Each future model from the unit on the objective would only contribute 2.

[@reaver11122]

@@MrBoadini I see, my bad. Hmmmm, that's possible. It's a bit vaguely worded

[@Husker44g]

I think it's an exciting notion that this army could win games by counter charging. Yes other armies could too but when you have such a high control value it might be the Ogor thang !!

[@markpandelidis2079]

From my understanding you'd be in your own combat range mesnjng you would use the rampage on yourself every time as well which is nice. Exploding 6's to hit helps pump the damage up, makes uo for the loss of 2 attacks from battle damage and the loss of+1 damage to the hooves

[@TheVardek13]

I am glutton for Rob’s content yumyum

[@capt.mannerings8095]

Opens mouth for more nommy content 😮

[@johnslawson3884]

Im confused. Trampling Charge doesn't have the "Once per turn (Army)" restriction, so doesn't this mean you would be able to activate the ability for every unit that charged?

[@escapo6895]

Yes

[@ce4879]

Blizzard is the stand-out. I hope Seraphon & Fyreslayers get terrain manipulation that fluffy. Would love to see Fyreslayers turn Gnawholes into active volcanoes and BBQ the rats that come out with D6 MW’s.😄🔥 Otherwise I think Ogors are okay. Powerful charges, 2+ to Wound attacks & universal 3” range is gonna make them put down some hurt. Players will have to work out their new playstyles of hitting hard but knowing to heal or even run away to keep those squishy high health stats up so they can continue smashing & eating.

[@Strade8]

Blizzard gives the bonus they had on the warscroll, you have to be near a piece of terrain and it cast on 10+ for 1 round: it stands out for how bad it is. Stormcast can get a 5+ ward without restriction and are on a 3+ save. The 3" of range changes nothing for the normal units and for the Beasts, the D3 damage on charge are a breaze in the face. The only good thing they have is the 3D6 from Kragnos.

[@ce4879]

@Strade8 The Blizzard Ward covers all the terrain with Blizzard tokens on the battlefield at once so you can store up those chants and mass cast them to trigger it since you have unlimited chances as long as you have enough priests to use it. That can be very useful battlefield control to an army tuned to use it properly(ice priest spam and whatever prayer boosts they get) And the Stormcast one is quite restricted in its only Ruination units. That’s only 2 actual units in the whole faction plus 3 heroes who are probably gonna be very expensive(and so far have meh abilities) We need to see the rest of the Ogor units and abilities, I really feel this is just the ground floor so they can build on it with better combos rather than a few super units that carry them.

[@ghostmutton]

Look how they've massacred my big boys...

[@SuperEagle112]

I was scared when you didn’t post a video a couple minutes before the actual article dropped 😅 I’m excited to see Blades of Khorne and Maggotkin to pick my 4th Ed faction

[@whatamidoinghere2714]

Correct me if I'm wrong, which I might well be as I haven't played in a long while, but, aren't the only rhinox units the artillery pieces that are dragged around by a single rhinox? Has this changed in the past few years, and there is now other rhinox units?

[@Bazanti]

You are correct. There used to be Forgeworld Rhinox Cavalry as well.

[@whatamidoinghere2714]

@Bazanti True, forgot about those. Do they have profiles and are playable in AOS?

[@DaHobbles]

Countercharge + objective control is really gonna so potent. The spice on the warscrolls might be a bit disappointing but Ogors are going to be such a strong competitor on the fundamentals. Can’t wait to get more context from the indexes

[@Bartonium]

When i first looked at the faction focus, it felt disappointing compared to the other factions for 4th edition. I did really like the Kragnos warscroll. You pointed out some interesting interactions which did change my view on the faction. Ofcourse time will tell how every faction will turn out. but thank you for your insights!

[@jamesjohnson1290]

As a long term ogor player (playing since their introduction in fantasy), I am a little bummed- but that’s the flavor of 4th. Things are different. I’m excited to run mawpacks and melt light infantry! I am hopeful we get foot priests- both hunters as priests would be delightful! I am a bit worried about the firebelly, but we’ll see. It feels like we kept our flavor while being a little bit debuffed, as did everyone, and I’m okay with that. Honestly I’m so excited for counter charging with stonehorns and hitting the jackpot to delete a full health monster.

[@Strade8]

The 3 Faction rules do barely nothing. If there is no run and charge you can play with no battle Traits and is almost the same game.

[@FamousJX]

MAKE STONE SKELETON GREAT AGAIN!

[@l337haxz0rn00b]

Ogre yawntribes

[@samv.l.5819]

I hope they will do something with the Yhetees and the Huskard on Thundertusk, or just even the Tyrant

[@SeanDitchfield]

Seen a lot of doomposting about Kragnos but I think if he’s pointed correctly he will be an amazing hammer unit. With lots save stacking removed he has gained a lot of “rend” from 3rd edition. But the loss of save stacking will also hurt is ow. survivability for sure.

[@moxgamingmiming]

I was hoping that the article would preview mawpit mechanics 😔 But I'm really excited to countercharge with these guys in 4th. I hope Kragnos gets a massive points reduction too.

[@WeOnlyEatSoup]

My man HEYWOAH is gonna be stoked!

[@rotmirerob]

You can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half

[@samv.l.5819]

he's not allone

[@cursling9]

Definitely keep laughing at your own jokes, it makes them 100% more funny ❤

[@akutch564]

We've seen damage come down across the board on all factions. Ogors still seem to have really high damage in the game. They will still play like they do now. Smash face and sit on objectives. Hopefully they get something that gives them the ability to run and charge. The monsters movement is down slightly but remember bracketing no longer exist. I'm positive all monsters will have a lower movement in 4.0 versus 3.0. Also, every ability that does mortals on a charge is going to be lower than it is in 3.0. You have way more chances to charge in 4.0 versus 3.0.

[@KateHolden]

I know everyone's saying these are disappointing, and maybe they'll prove right... but I have an inkling they could be quite strong. They look very good at doing the things that score VP in 4th, and even better at *stopping the opponent from scoring points*. A lot of people are analysing the faction foci, looking at the reduced lethality of armies and going "army bad!!! :( " while maybe not looking at how point scoring barely works around destroying units now, it's more about controlling objectives or getting people into places, and most factions have "bring back units" mechanics, making just "destroying units" maybe a less useful approach. The Ogors' spicy countercharge combined with amazing control scores and even a zoning ability has the potential to scupper your opponent's plans to score battle tactics.

[@HellGrimo]

I'm just looking at other armies getting decent stuff and then look at Destro that gets nerf all across the board. Objectively all the changes make the ogres worse. Less lethal, slower. There is nothing that makes them better.

[@KateHolden]

@HellGrimo well, you might be correct, but I'm just thinking back to 10th ed 40k, where a lot of people's predictions about strong and weak armies based on the previews were really far off the mark because of the limited info, or extrapolating those charges based on how 9th ed functioned. I'm just going to wait and see. I mean, I'm a Stormcast player, so it's hard for my army to get *worse* than it was in 3rd. 😅

[@HellGrimo]

@@KateHolden You'd be surprised how good Stormcasts could be in this edition, but it does quite depend on the player. Had local master running stormcasts with terrifying results but he's like one of the better players in Europe so.

[@shipkipsamazingchannel3248]

I think the big issue is less the straight damage potential, but rather then stripping of pretty much all of the fun rules for 3rd in favor of a handful of really boring middling abilities, and a meager handful at that. Its just you dont feel like the big trampling horde of bodies or massive monster trucks bearing down on other armies, youre an objective only army that just sits on objectives and hope you dont lose your very expensive guys before the game ends

[@PresidentJimmyDean]

I reckon 4e will have a big Ogor release with a bunch of updates and recasts

[@ndpizzle]

Great video!

[@therealaY]

Wonderful! I ordered some objective markers! Thank you for letting us know they exist!

[@cameronthompson7314]

Crit (2 hits) is exactly equivalent to +1 to hit. Same as 40K sustained hits.

[@spiritofgroot1999]

Killed the flavour for streamlined rules

[@TrebleAmp]

Well it’s not an overly complicated army to run. Seems right up my street! :)

[@bignosebrett1521]

Rob has really grown on me over the past few months and objectively looking at Ogors and coming out very positive about them (I think they will be fine). Refreshing considering the amount of nerf babies at the moment 😂

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Appreciate that. There's certainly parts I'm not keen on but here we are

[@bignosebrett1521]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams yeah, there will always be the Battletome (long way off though 😂)

[@Bazanti]

The 4’s on 2’s were to be expected, but still, a bit of a gutpunch

[@InfernoSztorm]

I am so upset that i have learned about this Objective Markers from this video instead of super bowl commercial! This news is bigger than The Old World introduction!

[@lukevassh7740]

Nom, nom, nom!

[@Ben_c-j4u]

It’s so ogre the swamps have fallen billions must diet

[@kendrickwhite4868]

You rock Rob

[@shintobean]

If you roll a 3 and a 4 on Kragnos' monster bash it would do zero damage :) I think there's a 16% of it doing nothing, but yeah, still crazy

[@capt.mannerings8095]

Okay im a bit more encouraged. I really should play this army hopefully they get some new models.

[@TobyGilham]

meat is love meat is life

[@ToriGiffin]

BIG

[@lat1n0_h0t]

You know when you're a kid and you are super excited to play with your friends but you have to go to the bathroom. Therefore you try and rush going to the bathroom and catch yourself in your zipper in the excitement... That's the pain I am currently feeling with this faction focus. Was super excited about AoS 4 right until I read the battle traits and realized, man these suck. I get it everything is outta context but man they gotta hurry up and release these indexes bc oof I'm looking towards old world if this is how they are going to treat ogres.

[@Troobalaro]

I believe I heard that control is not counted per model anymore, but per unit. So if I have any models on glutton unit contesting an objective, it's control two, but adding more models onto the objective does not change it. But then with their ability, if there are 6 models in the unit and I used the flesh ability thing, they would go to 2+6=8 control for the unit. This lines up with the wording on the glutton ability Edit: it seems I am wrong, as stated in the ogor article

[@cmleibenguth]

They clarify this in the Ogor article Your interpretation is off Control is per model

[@Troobalaro]

@@cmleibenguth missed that! Thank you

[@Crab_enjoyer.]

I’m painting an orruk ardboy rn 🤫🤫🤫

[@andremmuller]

As a bcr player since 1st ed... I'm gutted they gutted ogors so much.

[@lordvladekc4846]

I honestly was quite disappointed after reading the article. Your enthusiasm however, has made me hungry for more. The first meal might not be that fulfilling, but what about second breakfast?

[@davedecrop3726]

Hi Rob , are you going to sell your objective markers at worlds?

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

I can do. If you are part of a team you can let me know

[@davedecrop3726]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams , Unfortunately, I do not play in Team Belgium butparticipate in singles.

[@jameswilson6328]

As an ogor player myself I thankyou for this review 👍 Also a note to my fellow ogor players is that; don’t forget that this is the index level entry to the game. They aren’t going to make the army too strong with out selling you a book! 😂 so just wait, assume this is your starter and the main meal aka “the book £££” is on its way 😂😂😂

[@jameswilson6328]

Also just ordered my objective markers from you, thank you!! 👍 keep up the great work

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Thanks for the support

[@ArnoNymus-i6h]

I‘m neutral on the everything except the battle traits b/c of the missing context/ rest of the rules. The battle traits are kind of disappointing though: 1. The battle traits we‘ve seen so far really captured the lore/soul of the factions for me. This new take on Ogres, especially „Feast on flesh“, miss the mark imho. My first thought: a Waaagh for Ogres :/ 2. The 2+ on a d3: 2/3 chance to do (or heal) additional 2-3 damage. Might be okay for trampling charge, if it could be triggered by multiple units a turn. But a huge feelsbad potential for the feast ability as a once per battle ability, that triggers for the whole army. If feast on flesh could be triggered for each unit separately and the damage on charge and feast would be d3 mortals on a 2+(d6) or just d3 mortals (without the 2+), I would be very excited for Ogres (my main army since first release in WHFB).

[@Duckizilla]

They've butchered my Stonehorn babies! 😭 Overall, I think this is a massive downgrade on Beastclaws in particular. They were terrifying to be charged by but now it's like a friendly dog running at you 🤦‍♂️

[@DocPhantoms]

I am not too worried about an army being powerful or not powerful, but the mechanic changes of ogors are weird. We are supposed to think of them as this ravenous horde that can never be satiated yet there is this moment where they eat and then they can never do it again, getting slower in the process. feels dissonant

[@damianelvidge9395]

So DeAdLy

[@Fezzik312]

This showcase feels so bad as an Ogor player. Not because of strength but because of flavor and potential feel bads. Trampling charge should definitely read EVERY friendly Ogor unit that charged this turn. Feels wrong that a charging Stonehorn doesn’t do any damage on the charge because you already used the ability on another unit that also charged. Concerning feel bad, Trampling charge and Feast on Flesh are both on a D3 2+. Every time your army rules come into play there’s a 1 in 3 chance it doesn’t do anything. That’s not how it should be. Imagine when you call the WAAAGH! with Orks and on a D6 roll of 1 or 2 it doesn’t have any effect. They basically Grasp of the Everwinter'd all our rules.

[@escapo6895]

Trampling Charge works on every charging unit. It doesn’t have a (Once per Turn) restriction, so it can be used multiple times at your discretion. You could even choose to not use it if you want to.

[@Husker44g]

I think it was the Tzeentch video where you asked us to comment on what you think was the best review so far. My vote is this one. We don't have a lot to base this on but to me having an army that is supposed to be literally bulky and that being represented with not only health points but also control value is pretty F'''kin amazing IMO.

[@FlipityGibett]

As someone who has never played Ogors this seems sweet.

[@markpandelidis2079]

Agreed trampling charge should have said each. Also really should say add 2 to the damage if the unit is a monster. Doing 4-5 damage on the charge is good. 2-3 is pretty low for huge hulking beasts. Even just +1 damage if it's a monster. Still better. Feast on flesh should be once per round. And the +2 run still only applies to units that have never had the feast apply to them yet. Easy. Much better. This is a pretty big slap in the face to Ogor players IMO

[@ryanbowald2425]

I’ve had kragnos do like 25 mortal wounds to my Archaon on the charge then proceeded to cut him down sad times hate that guy :(

[@rotmirerob]

imo the most disappointing faction focus up to now. kragnos still seems like fun

[@rob_isnt_funny]

100%

[@bigtom8925]

3D6 counter charge is so tasty. Get right into the back lines

[@chefblaze7022]

Opinions are like asshol everyone gottem and they all stink

[@michaelanglin3152]

I agree. Sad panda

[@highmarshalbalian680]

Transports on the Kharadron ships was the most disappointing preview

[@BayushiMaru]

Make Junkmob Great again

[@Dtz_miniature]

It needs to happen.

[@Nekorook]

I liked this one. It feels like an ogor army. If I was still playing ogror’s I’d be happy.

[@ismasekkate9607]

Tasty review, leaves me hungry for more 😂

[@vandamwtc]

Yeaa.. I'm not super stoked about this one. I play Ogors, and it looks like they took a lot of flavor away.

[@cmleibenguth]

Kragnos' armor being 4+ is the biggest change I have seen to his warscroll Followed by a 5+ ward (isnt it 6+ right now?) The rest is just -- he is still a massively dangerous melee beat stick

[@Crunch2327]

Still not sure how -2 to the save and +1 to a ward, "is about the same"

[@somekindofgold8362]

I started Ogors at the start of 3rd and I'm extremely disappointed with the preview. We have 3 battle traits, all of them very simple and 1 of them that is only once per battle and only goes off a 3rd of the time. Meanwhile, the faction shown after Ogors, the FEC, got 5 really cool battle traits. We got screwed as a faction. I have a feeling we're going to be the Admech of 4th AoS. Also pretty telling that we were the ones that they used to showcase Kragnos. He's not even an Ogor, he's just a stupid ass horse man that we got stuck with instead of the Beasts of Chaos. As HeyWoah once said, if you need to run Kragnos you're a bad army, and I have feeling we're gonna be mandatory Kragnos takers.

[@larslinden2862]

Why do ogres dont have a crit on their weapon?! You wanne tell me that when a 3 metres tall ogre with a 50 cm biceps hits you with is sword, that it wont crit on 6? Like c'mon GW that makes 0 fk sense

[@40KWill]

Feels like a weak army but with the dribble of rules who knows what GW left out or FAQs day one.

[@massimorolli4414]

Up to now the most disappointing faction focus. They may be strong.... but the fun stuff is gone. The impression is boring.

[@rob_isnt_funny]

Feels like they've gutted all the defining elements of the army. Every faction reveal makes 4th less appealing to me.

[@sheaparkersp]

Same. Really thinking about sticking to 3rd until they get the new system with some better mechanics

[@rob_isnt_funny]

Also, that prayer says "roll a D6. If the roll is a 10+" What have I missed

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Watch the video as I explain it

[@rob_isnt_funny]

Managed to miss it behind my sobbing

[@Waywardpaladin]

​@@rob_isnt_funnyYou store your prayer points over multiple turns until you choose to unleash it

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[@pauljones2579]

Just can't get excited about any of this.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

That's really fair. That's on them to make you excited

[@bignosebrett1521]

Every faction is getting hit, the crybabies are out in force today

[@thesoothsayer9223]

I love your rings and I miss James