OGOR MAWTRIBES: Faction Focus AOS4

[@kellyhoesing2573]

It's funny that Ogors are less dangerous than Cities of Sigmar horses on the charge.

[@strategoi]

For the normal ogors, I'm okay with that. But not for the big beasties. 🥲

[@vandamwtc]

Such a dumb change. A 10ft ogor should hurt more than a mere horse running at you

[@Vortid]

Ogres not very inspired for sure. But the main thing is still, it is two factions that are too different, they could just be two armies like the orruks. I hope like you said they get refreshed soon, and fixed to be two separate or one more homogenous army.

[@strategoi]

They'll need a substantial amount of new units (and not refreshes) to be able to split into two viable halves. I doubt that'll happen any time soon, though I can see them getting a refresh

[@vandamwtc]

This release confirmed my fears about 4th. Literally stripping all the flavor out of the army. This is why i quit 40k. Worried about what theyre going to do to Gargants and STD now, cause one of my armies looks incredibly boring now.

[@soberirish83]

With the changes to the ogor battle traits, it feels like a different army now. I don’t know that that is a bad thing, but I’m hoping for some good warscroll synergies with the full release.

[@strategoi]

You're probably right that it'll require a whole new playstyle, which is surprising since they mostly managed to capture the older playstyles in the previous indexes, the main difference being that for most armies you now need to include a bit of everything.

[@marcomad1991]

How they destroy a faction, that is not so overpower, in such a way.. I really hope they change somethings here, or maybe there are some units or huge buffs in the remaining warscrolls

[@strategoi]

There must be, right? The traits require some serious effort to get enough mileage from otherwise.

[@starslayer2438]

This is one of the few faction focuses that I feel negative about. So I can totally understand Jonas feeling this way. The Ogor battle traits are very disappointing and weak. Oddly enough, I feel like they are very close to being good. They cover almost all the old Ogor battle traits (except for Grasp of the Everwinter). And thus hit most flavor points. Trampling Charge being weaker is fine, since they dialed down the mortal wound output and this probably means that Ogors are cheaper on average. Ravenous Brutes and Feast on Flesh suck for the reasons you outlined in the video. However, I think those two abilities can be made more interesting and more powerful by changing just a few words: - Ravenous Brutes (effect section): Replace "run rolls" with "the move characteristic". - Feast on Flesh (ability header): Replace "Once per Battle" with "Once per Turn". Especially the last one. They are Ogors! Why should they stop eating after a single dish?

[@strategoi]

Yeo, minor tweaks could do it! I hope Ryan's correct and that they'll receive a new book soon.

[@woanjinnchong273]

Seeing a lot of roll 2+ to do something lately. So far almost every faction focus has roll 2+ before using this ability

[@strategoi]

Yeah, there's a lot of that going around and I don't mind that per se. It is quite harsh though when it's your most flavourful and impactful battle trait. 🤷‍♂️

[@Strade8]

And a 2+ on a D3.. 33% chance of nothing.

[@massimorolli4414]

As an Ogre player I would be less disappointed if they just squatted the army and moved it to the Old World. These are terrible.

[@ryanburruss]

Understandable. What if you got a full Battletome update with way better rules by the end of the year? Possibly with a range refresh?

[@massimorolli4414]

@@ryanburruss that would be very nice. But Hopium does not make this Faction Focus less disappointing.

[@ryanburruss]

@@massimorolli4414 Yeah that’s not what I’m saying. Just saying the likelihood that you guys are getting a bunch of love soon is even higher now. I don’t consider this hopium. Obviously feel how you need to feel, not trying to stop you, ha

[@massimorolli4414]

@@ryanburruss I sincerely hope you are right, but to be honest what I have seen here and in the last Battletome is convincing me no one in the studio knows this army and/or cares about it. Pity. The rest of the news about AOS4 are pretty good.

[@Strade8]

The only hope is run and charge..

[@ryanmalady376]

The update is a big let down for me

[@strategoi]

Yeah, man. I'm still not over it, but I might have been more pessimistic than I should 😂

[@Crunch2327]

I only play ogors, they were fun, this doesn't sound like fun, not sure im bothering with 4th atm.

[@strategoi]

I definitely understand the disappointment. Give it a chance first. We fully expect ogors to get mount traits, which would explain why their battle traits are so plain.