Every Ubiquiti UniFi Camera + ONVIF Support in Protect 5.0!

[@DPCTechnology]

Hats off man, that was a ton of info in 17 minutes! I agree with it all but would give the nod to the AI Pro for future proofing and AI detections. I can appriciate the time it takes to film one of these and as always, you nailed it!

[@smody121]

"Honey, he's out there holding a sign running back and forth again"

[@lossless4129]

😂

[@hornetbad]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrDingleberry31]

😂😂😂

[@huf67]

Tweakers....😞

[@BillinSD]

This could have been 3 videos but you are a man of the people for packing it all on here. Excellent work

[@ILruffian]

Thanks for taking the time to do this. Really appreciate it.

[@MrMadeinthe80s]

G3 instant use to be a steal. I wish I had gotten a few more of them before the price jump. Great little cameras for $39, not so much for $79.

[@BenWilliams]

100%! They were never in stock at $39 because it was priced correctly for what it was. At $79, it’s one of the worst values in the UniFi lineup now and was probably successful in pushing people to stop buying it and upgrade to the G4 Instant instead.

[@MrMadeinthe80s]

@@BenWilliams Pretty sure that was their whole purpose was pushing newer G4 sales.

[@jaymathu6553]

They used to be 29$

[@fasthowto]

They're terrible. I have a bunch in a box collecting dust.

[@MrMadeinthe80s]

@@fasthowto Your the only person Ive ever heard that from. I have 3 and love them for what they are. 1080p camera for $30 that Ive never had issues with and look just fine. Now they dont compare in quality to my 4k cameras, but for the locations I have them they are fine.

[@weberzach]

A G4 instant has been on my concrete patio facing the door for 2 years. Snow, rain, blazing sun, and it still shows me when the dogs are ready to come inside.

[@scottalexander8856]

prob could have saved some coin for a dog or cat cam.. and just went with wyze or ring

[@weberzach]

Thats crazy, i never thought to be so thrifty, i appreciate your sound financial advice. Sometimes, i just buy tech to test and sometimes, a use case just develops. @scottalexander8856

[@brianmckay1594]

I'm experimenting with the Protect Early Access on a couple of Reolink cameras. It's still very early days. I'd like to see Rob do a video on setting up and using Frigate. The latest update has made the UI much more user-friendly (after the cameras are set up at least).

[@RaffBuilding]

Frigate vs Blue Iris!

[@yayinternets]

Yeah, I’m curious to know if the notifications from the “AI” Reolinks will actually work with UniFi Protect.

[@thebigdoghimself]

There is no good way to get your cams onto a monitor. They offer a viewport that has an hdmi. However, it's terrible. I could not get it to properly display a reolink poe 3. And it is only capable of displaying a vojple 4k cameras before it runs out of resources. I couldn't watch the poe 3 and another 4k at the same time.

[@carloscueto7561]

@@yayinternets They don't. Unifi Protect's current implementation of ONVIF is only Profile S, which is just basic streaming. We need them to eventually support Profile T for all of those things to be possible. Maybe one day.

[@yayinternets]

That’s a bummer but not unexpected.

[@Timichaud]

I have several G3 Flex mounted outdoor directly exposed to the rain and snow for more than 5 years and they are still working strong ! Even if Unifi told us that they cant be directly exposed. Very very good price/quality ratio at the thime of the purchase.

[@Taylorc52]

Been using UniFi protect for years and have slowly added multiple sites (my second house, parents, etc) and man it is fantastic.

[@Sartre_Existentialist]

This was a very informative video. I have been planning a full home network with wifi and security camera setup. I'm very disappointed that Ubiquity cameras are not better. If your going to essentially lock your customers out of the full functionality of a competitors camera, then build a camera that actually competes.

[@allanmindellrealty7470]

Thanks!

[@giovannislab1454]

Man I miss that the g3 instant was $29. I’m so glad I got 4 at the price. They were great for nursery cameras

[@LoveInYourMouth]

Agreed!

[@russellharrison619]

I will say one of the HUGE things that didn't get mention is the fact that the mulitplay back ONLY works if its a local connection to the NVR system. Great Video for sure I think the new updates have a huge impact on what people will looking at for NVR systems.

[@JoeChristopoulos]

Thank you for the G5 Bullet and G5 Turret FOV comparison! Finally decided on the turret after seeing this anddddd it's out of stock..

[@myridesbetter]

I remember when G3 instant was 29 dollars, I bought 5 at that time, have had a few outdoors covered and they work great still :)

[@jimallen8238]

Unifi is clearly banking on the value of their ecosystem instead of optimizing for image quality. In fact, they seem comfortable selling bottom-tier cameras because they know they have vendor lock-in with their switches, NVR, and routers. I don’t expect feature parity for ONVIF cameras anytime soon. They need to increase the installed base of their proprietary cameras first. That builds dependency.

[@inderveerjohal7218]

Phenomenal video! Had to play it at 0.75x and did a lot of rewinding but so much information and definite has informed my choices for our upcoming renovation!

[@MrTjnielsen81]

You made an interesting point about the Cloud Key + Unifi wireless cameras as an alternative to Ring and similar packages. I'd love to see a comparison of the major competitors in that market - it's a huge segment that's very popular. Eufy, Ring, Reolink's new wireless hub package and your Unifi package concept would be a great comparison that would interest a lot of people.

[@HuckFlynn]

Easily the most comprehensive, detailed, thorough, and insightful comparison around. Adding the analysis "adjustments" for FoV, value, etc. was pretty epic, providing the answers people were going to need before they got there themselves. "Huh, so I wonder which ... oh nevermind, he's already telling me!" Definitely interested to see how much they lean into ONVIF -- are they checking a box, or actually bringing functionality and growth?

[@Pabula]

Man all your videos are so good, thanks a lot for sharing them with us.

[@TekShinji]

Great video with great review, thank you so much for the comparisons on all the cameras and a easy way to digest and take in. It was a very good video. Well scripted well made, and the information was presented clearly and concisely thank you!

[@AeroPR]

What an amazing work you make with your content. This information is impressive as always. Thank you!

[@APR1037]

Great information! I’m getting ready to buy UniFi outdoor cameras and was overwhelmed by all the options. This video answered many of my questions and helped me narrow my options. Thank you!

[@TheArcticWonder]

Running around barefoot holding a sign. I like your style dude. You do what it takes for the data

[@CamFromOz]

Can’t wait to see the updated security camera system review!!

[@harriska]

Fantastic comparison and a stunning R1S too!

[@dhsemp]

Great review of Unifi Protect and the associated cameras, NVR, and features!

[@Lunaorbit82]

This is a superb review and exactly what I’ve been looking for. A huge amount of work has gone into this many thanks Sir.

[@mattiusg]

I thought this was going to be a sponsored post for a minute, then your full tests kicked in. Well done as always

[@UnexpectedMaker]

Super in-depth coverage and easy to understand conclusions! How many hours did you spend collating all of that data? How did you not go insane? ;)

[@TheHookUp]

You know how easy it is to sink time into things you are genuinely curious about.

[@TimZaman]

i don't comment often/ever, but best review i have seen on unifi/this topic. truly excellent!

[@benjaminthe1st]

This was super helpful, knowing that I could even on a small scale throw a threw cameras through UDM Pro, and with the potential for ONVIF cameras... have a few clients that would make this ecosystem even more appealing, and if the need was greater, could do a full addon to the NVR, this is a great path.

[@geekmike]

Confirming my love for the G5pro here. I found that using the AI Pro for the initial driveway access point has given me great license plate and person detections, having the G5pros everywhere else that's exposed to elements outside. g5 bullets for areas with less traffic or have less identification needs.

[@ivans.935]

Excellent review, thank you! Though I believe you meant to say here 9:18 that G5 flex and G5 dome are actually on 2nd and third place, and not at the bottom. At least this is how it looks judging by the snapshots.

[@wreilly09]

Fantastic. No notes on the video. Helped a ton with my purchases. Thank you very much.

[@fasthowto]

Every wireless unifi camera I've ever tried has been junk - g3 & g4 instant, doorbells, all of it. Can't even stay connected to APs from the same manufacturer. $50 amcrest wireless cameras not only have better image quality & superior night vision, but connectivity is rock solid. Same with the doorbells.

[@MrDingleberry31]

Thanks so much for these reviews. My go to guy!

[@tomlee44]

Great video. Nice Rivian!

[@julius2264]

This is incredible. Thank you!

[@moe85moe85]

Great video thanks for all the work behind this! its like Project Farm for security cameras

[@devinbaeten13]

Can't wait for the ONVIF cameras to become more stable and get audio support. Also, the "AI Key" product seems to be coming soon, enabling smart detections on ONVIF cameras.

[@GerardoLiraSolis]

excellent review as always my friend

[@Mynerds]

Incredible deep dive as always. Thanks for your hard work! For someone with only non Ubiquiti cameras and who has a UDMP, do you think Ubiquiti Protect will ever be able to fully replace BlueIris?

[@TheHookUp]

Ever? Who knows. It will not replace your blue iris system right now though. However, if you have a few critical cameras there's no reason not to throw a HDD in your UDMP to record 24/7 backup high resolution footage of your cameras.

[@jamieseamans2796]

If Ubiquiti is smart they will realize if they capture the Blue Iris market it represents a massive revenue stream.

[@Polkster13]

The AI-360 does not do the Facial Recognition nor the License Plate detections like the other AI cameras do. Also, more and more cameras from Ubiquiti are, and will be in the future, in both black and white versions, especially the G5 lineup.

[@TheHookUp]

I’ll have to double check, but I’m pretty sure AI 360 does facial recognition. Not plate detection though.

[@basscheutjens6612]

@@TheHookUp I have a AI360, but I don't have a single face recognition event and I can't select it as a smart detection. So I'm pretty sure the AI360 doesn't support it, but I love to be proven wrong

[@rurd4me]

I wonder what your neighbors think when they see 10 cameras mounted in your driveway. 🤣

[@johnthomas2970]

Was hoping to see how the Unifi top performer would compare to the present preferred options from Reolink, Dahua, HIK etc. Guess I’ll be re-watching the latest group test 😅

[@CrinosAD]

Muff... I have just ordered (arriving today) two G5 Turrets to swap out a G3 Bullet and G3 Flex.... Hopefully the G5 Turrets are better than their older G3 models :)

[@shubinternet]

For my part, I wouldn’t use the G4 Instant camera outside. I’d only use it inside. But, it is nice to know that it is rated for outdoor use.

[@TheHookUp]

It seemed to work pretty well outside.

[@alldecentnamestaken]

I saw you had an NCD800 hooked up to UI Protect. How is that working? That's pretty much my favorite camera at the moment. Very useful for seeing a large area outdoors.

[@TheHookUp]

It works. In the live view it is squished into a 16:9 tile, but it records fine.

[@demorecord]

Can you ever review the Hikvision NVR and other NVRs and go into recommended setups with these lesser talked about NVRs?

[@mobilechaosyt]

Been looking at the Cloud Gateway Max, wifi access points, and 10g network switch for an upgrade to my network. Since the Cloud Gateway Max includes the NVR, adding the cameras and Poe switches wouldn’t be an issue except for the price compared to alternatives. It is good to know that I should be satisfied with the G5 lineup as long as I choose the placement and camera version wisely. I might even consider having one AI pro just for license plate detection.

[@jeremiahroycewooten]

Of course they release 2 new camera's right after you make this. Hope you'll look into them and the new AI Port (gives third party camera's Unifi AI processing.)

[@nzznvm]

I always wonder, if you prep the body well are you able to spray paint the bullet cameras? I would prefer to spray them red similar to my red brick.

[@TheHookUp]

Shouldn’t be any issue painting as long as you cover the lens well.

[@YanivNahum-zg8uh]

Amazing review ,Thank u for this .

[@dfgdfg_]

So much work 👏👏👏

[@EsotericArctos]

Onvif is still in early days and there are some compatibility issues still. Also it can only do 24/7 recording at this stage, no motion detection or smart detection. I believe Onvif is added as a stepping stone, to allow a gradual migration to the Unifi Protect cameras. Considering the G5 bullet is a 2K camera, I think it does a pretty decent job. The G5 Pro, which is 4K is pretty well the same quality as the AI Pro, but the AI Pro has a lot better AI detections. The G5 Pro and AI Pro have the same sensor. The Vision Enhancer a has both extended IR and White light, so it has advantages over just a spotlight. The DSLR was a little disappointing in your tests. I have seen other tests that show it much better, so not sure what was happening there. The issues with Reolink cameras comes donw to Reolink firmware, as most Reolink issues are. These are cheap cameras running very outdated mediaserver in the firmware, regardless of getting new firmware. If you want cheap, they are good. If you want compatible or reliable, I would always avoid Reolink. They get their cameras out to youtubers so they get noise about them, but they are not and never have been good cameras.

[@123Osaka456]

Even with PoE, the g4 pro doorbell was the biggest letdown to me considering the hardware and price point. Gonna have to go with Reolink's 3:4 PoE doorbell for the value. Hope the protect Onvif adoption process gets smoother in future updates.

[@FrankGraffagnino]

hope you were safe in the storm... thanks for the video! great info

[@TheHookUp]

All good! We are thankfully on pretty high ground, lots of damage around us.

[@lsav1085]

As always: thanks for making the hook up

[@jamesluke4885]

is the synology DVA3221 better than the unifi protect? it seems to have local ai features.

[@Garrett_Collins]

can any of the unifi cameras be used as just a wireless or wired live feed? I dont need to record any footage I just need a camera that I can have pointed in a certain area of my house while i'm away at work. we have a new puppy and I just want to be able to keep an eye on him while we are at work. Maybe there is a cheaper alternative but I want something that has a good quality image. Any recommendations?

[@eyefly001]

Just curious if you leave them at default FPS or if you change them all to the same FPS? My g4 doorbell pro gives me way better image quality than you experienced. I usually set all of my cameras to 15 or 20fps.

[@ufomism]

Will you review the AI Turret? Thanks

[@EastyUK]

Nice vid, thanks! rlc-810a didn’t give the adopt option for some reason on my udm max, but when I open protect app it found new device and let me add it with the cameras login. This wouldn’t work until I went into the camera via ip and added a new user with psswd. Worked great once I did that.

[@peterwellmann5150]

Any news regarding AUTO archiving protect recoding to cloud or has?

[@ystebadvonschlegel3295]

I am using Synology to manage my 3rd party cameras - would be very interested to buy a unfi system but sounds like it’s not there yet for the cameras I have from a features standpoint. Please keep us updated.

[@FunctionalGarage]

Could you please do a video on tp link vigi surveillance system ? I am really interested in their 4k 8 mp cameras and their nvr and also if there is compatibility between their cameras and some nvrs from other brands. I would highly appreciate it :) !

[@AlL-fw2cy]

Is there any option to save recordings to the cloud in case the Unifi NVR gets damaged or stolen?

[@cannatoshi]

Does the Unify system also protect against scenarios where someone removes an outdoor camera and tries to access the network via the cable? Or what happens if someone applies 110 volts to the cable - are there safeguards to protect the server from such damage?

[@TheHookUp]

That would be your obligation to set that up. Unifi does have many options for port security (VLAN isolation, MAC isolation, etc). If someone applies 120V to the cable it will be a problem. I'm not aware of any system that would just automatically cope with 120VAC applied to it when it is designed for 48V DC max.

[@Sam-Knows-Best]

so the question is this, I am upgrading from hikvision and want to install up to 14 cameras to save to the cloud, how can I do that with Ubiquiti? if the bullet cams are POE what will they connect to? considering that I wont need an NVR? and what is the monthly cost of saving the footage to the cloud?

[@timothymcgregor2255]

What about the other way around? Do Unifi cameras work on 3rd party recorders?

[@blindside995]

Impressive video. Super helpful

[@bizzfo]

The G5 Pro is excellent. So much better at night than the grainy crappy picture on the G4 Bullet.

[@MichaelMacco]

Absolute fantastic video. Tons of effort and tremendous information. Thank you. I've been pondering a Synology NAS and saw they had a video solution. I currently have G1 Devices at my office with a Google subscription. But I also have a Unifi system so that's how I found this video. Question is, if I'm going to buy a Synology NAS anyway, what do you think about the Synology camera system vs the Unifi camera system?

[@Vamanos46]

When did unifi availability issues change ? I always had considered their products unattainable.

[@TheHookUp]

G5 series has been better

[@rjbbobut]

I’m going to be setting up a Unifi system for my under-construction house. This was really helpful. I’m a bit disappointed in the quality of the G4 Doorbell in your review. Is there a better alternative? I’m looking for POE and no subscription.

[@lossless4129]

Yesssss! He’s backkkkkkkk

[@trevsweb]

frigate's new update is great too and still free :)

[@LoveInYourMouth]

FYI the g3 flex has better audio than the g5 flex IMO

[@revealingfacts4all]

AWESOME!!!! I have Unifi Dream Machine and was always wondering if I should invest in the protect vs Frigate. I run Frigate with a google coral TPU and capture video to a synology NAS and it works OK but there is too much manual trial and error with the sub-streams. I use all Axis cameras and the mobile frigate app is pretty bad as is the web UI on a mobile device.

[@ChristianBlueChimp]

Earlier today I was thinking "which camera to buy in my ubiquiti setup?" And here comes the answer very conveniently :D

[@BlackbeardedPirate]

Excellent review! Still shocked about the quality per dollar, even though their recorders are pretty neat and the software keeps getting better. Now the couple of 100 dollar question, Unifi ecosystem or Reolink?

[@TheHookUp]

I think if budget is a concern, UniFi is probably still out of the question.

[@igielv]

Hi, can you just clarify are you talking about G5 Turret or G5 Turret Ultra? Thank you very much for amazingly useful review.

[@TheHookUp]

I don't think there is a G5 Turret, just G5 Turret Ultra.

[@micahkitchen6190]

When do you think that ONVIF will move out of early access? I am super excited about this. We have a bunch of HikVision cameras but we have recently switched to a Ubiquity Network ecosystem. We are wanting to switch our DVR to NVR and replace all of our analog cameras to IP. I want to move us to Unifi Protect and will get Unifi cameras to replace the analog, but we can't justify replacing all the HIK Vision IP cameras that we have already bought, so this integration will be super helpful if we can get it working..

[@TheHookUp]

It's not in early access, it's in general release. The difference is that it still has the "labs" distinction which basically means it's a work in progress. As I said, it's going to be a while before you can replace something like blue iris with UniFi Protect, and it might never get to that point. I'd personally like to just see them add ONVIF motion events in the timeline.

[@micahkitchen6190]

@@TheHookUp Gotcha. We had to enable Early Access to get it to work on our end. Which I had to add them via Advanced Adoption, but we got it up and running in Protect. It is working fine so far. However, the app is a little laggy. Pulling it up on desktop has been fine, its just on my phone app where it lags. It would be nice to add ONVIF motion events in the timeline for sure. Hopefully they will get on that soon. Regardless, it is saving us a bunch of money not having to replace 12 HIKvision cameras to switch ecosystems. We are still planning on buying 16-20 cameras to replace analog.

[@Jupiter0ne]

One thing that is a bit confusing (not just from this video, but others too), is the issue of the cameras being on the same vlan as Protect. Is that just a requirement for auto-detection, and maybe can be added manually some other way for those of us with cameras on their own vlan? Or is this a hard requirement, period?

[@TheHookUp]

ONVIF cameras need to be on the same VLAN, protect cameras do not.

[@Jupiter0ne]

That's a shame. I have a Reolink system now but it is on its own vlan, different from my UDM-SE.

[@Madistaja69]

Hey there @TheHookUp ! I love your security camera reviews. I wanted to ask how's your relationship with TP-Link. Recently I came across new models in VIGI InSight series. S385 and S485 are 8MP and on the paper they look like a solid competition for Reolink 4K models, unfortunately there's little to none reviews and sample videos on the web. Would be awesome if you could get a chance to check them out. I also hope that TP-Link will release a 8MP PTZ camera in the style of VIGI C540V it's fast zoom and focus is really something. I think that C540V is available in the US also.

[@TheHookUp]

TP-Link really only sells their wireless/wifi cameras in the US. I've asked them a number of times at CES about their PoE cameras which they always have a large display of, and they always say those are international market cameras.

[@larrythompson6363]

I noticed that Protect picked up your Hikvision cameras. I've been unable to get this to work. Are you Hikvision cameras connected to an NVR? Or are they connected directly to a switch? My model DS-2CD2142FWD-IS201.... I've tried both ways without any success.

[@TheHookUp]

Hikvision cameras come with ONVIF disabled by default, instructions to turn it on here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKLGYqihp9CAo6ssi=EmCif2emG_s8EzKJ&t=485

[@larrythompson6363]

@@TheHookUp I don't have those options? I guess my hikvision system is too old? It's probably over 10. years? Thoughts?

[@TheHookUp]

@@larrythompson6363 Try looking for a firmware update for your camera model.

[@larrythompson6363]

@@TheHookUp Thanks for getting back to me but I cannot find any software upgrades. I've even tried contacting hikvision, but they said they don't give out firmware upgrades. Crazy,,,, I'm getting to the point to start replacing them. Currently running them through scrypted so that I can have HKSV, works great. Recently upgraded to unifi network an was hoping I could have them in protect. I guess its not happening.

[@ClintNicholas]

Perfect timing

[@narnol02]

Lookingnto have the Theta 360 pro to watch a room. Thoughts on that vs the AI360?¿

[@TheHookUp]

Theta 360 is great if you're willing/able to do the extra steps to install it.

[@narnol02]

@@TheHookUp that I don't mind. Just wondered about quality compared to the AI 360. Using it to monitor a classroom in case something where to happen it could be reviewed.

[@1981SPL]

dang, i cant get my Annke cameras to work on the protect site. getting the "unable to stream" issue...saying to change encoding settings but im struggling.

[@TheHookUp]

Change to h264 under the “stream” options in your camera web interface.

[@matthiaslange392]

​@@TheHookUplook a the annke website. they have c800 for 50€ now. but caution: these "improved" models are another revision - both are "c800" but the new one ist I91DL, the good one is I91BL. The new has plasic housing and i've read about lack of some important features. A shame that Annke recycled the "good name" of the c800! thumbs down annke!

[@TheHookUp]

That's not true. Annke sells hikvision cameras, but they aren't lower quality versions, Annke just handles importing and advertising while Hikvision is mostly installer/dealer oriented. The advantage of buying Annke over Hikvision is that many of the Hikvision cameras on Amazon and Ali are illegally imported Chinese region camera which have different firmware meant only for China.

[@djheckler92]

@@TheHookUp Ok thanks, that was I was told on ipcamtalk but I trust you on that. I will remove my comment as to not confuse anyone.

[@mikemacb7rs4]

Does Unifi cameras (not system) support ONVIF? I like running my cameras to a nvr and to a video monitor. I want to add the Unifi camera to a 3rd party NVR

[@TheHookUp]

No.

[@Sartre_Existentialist]

So the UniFi system can accept any other manufacturers POE cameras?

[@TheHookUp]

It can accept ONVIF cameras, but it will not do anything other than record them 24/7.

[@Sartre_Existentialist]

@TheHookUp ok, Its really disappointing that Ubiquity doesn't put more R&D into their cameras. Nothing you showed in the video made me get motivated to open my wallet. However, I do like all their network equipment and it's the system I want.

[@JackReacheround]

@@Sartre_Existentialist they're going to release a box that makes and ONVIF cameras have smart detections and makes the G4 and G5 non AI cameras smarter, too.

[@Sartre_Existentialist]

@JackReacheround Oh good know! I'll keep an eye out

[@margusveer]

Supper work !

[@mikltgraff]

Here to see if Reolink makes the list 😅

[@zodiacfml]

nice review but watching this i realized the prices and features way behind vs smartphone hardware. Android smartphone makers should enter the IP camera market and reuse smartphone parts to make better IP cameras.

[@TheHookUp]

Security cameras and smartphones have very different environmental and hardware requirements.

[@zodiacfml]

​@@TheHookUp Yes because ip camera makers still use conventional digital camera hardware like the digital stills camera industry (in fairness, only smartphone brands reuse phone hardwre due as an ip camera due to large volumes). Samsung NX1 was and still is the best evidence for reusing smartphone hardware for best effect but sadly Samsung feels the camera industry is too small for them and abandoned it shortly.

[@111ch1a1d111]

There's no per-camera license, and HDD's are cheap. Seems like installing twice as many cameras that cost half as much each seems like the way to go if you don't mind adding extra cables or switches.

[@ufomism]

Well that was disappointing, thought at least the AI Pro would do well with the better sensor but guess not. Going to go with empiretech (dahua) T54IR and T58IR instead but will look into Ubiquiti nvr if they add motion detection

[@NatesRandomVideo]

I’ll stick with Reolink and Frigate and my wallet. lol 😂

[@monkeyaround2066]

I kept thinking that I sped up the video because you spoke so fast... Ha ha, good for you.

[@yourneighborhood]

15:03 I think the cheapest option is the cloud gateway max. $200

[@TheHookUp]

Cloud key is cheaper, $249 with a 1tb hdd, gateway max is $279 for 512GB. The $199 is without a hdd.

[@yourneighborhood]

@@TheHookUp yeah good point. But the real cheapest way would be to download the OS and install it on a used PC laying around or throw the image in a virtualized setting like a proxmox server or VM box.

[@TheHookUp]

@@yourneighborhood To my knowledge you can only run protect on UniFi hardware. You can spin up a network controller virtualized, but you can't install protect.