KING INGWENYAMA MAKHOSONKE MABHENA - NDEBELE KINGDOM | MPUMALANGA, HISTORY, LAND, MINES, CULTURE,

[@kingsaidso7258]

Big bro SBU. My house in Mpumalanga is just 2 streets away from the King in Kwamhlwanga. He is such a great man. He has a good heart. The people around our king are letting him down. Bayethe Mbhuduma #KINGSAIDSO

[@dlabazanersa3550]

@@kingsaidso7258 aboThomas mxm banomrhobhola kwandebele ngeke yathuthuka

[@donaldlwandle]

The fact that we have two kingdoms in one nation is the biggest red flag and a curse in our nation. In all of the kingdoms of the world, we are the only nation with divisions of kingdoms that last even till this day. We are way too divided to progress. But I'm happy for his majesty's efforts to push for the commercialization of our culture we haven't had a competent one in a long time.

[@asambe5]

Dj Sbu and Nota what a duo! ❤

[@skylord_za]

Mntungwa, Manala, Mbuduma, Masoka'esokile!!! Thank you to the hustlers corner for this interview

[@withsidney]

Thanks🙏 dj sbu can you please interview king Mabhoko I think there will be more information to gain and I believe King Mabhoko III will give you direct answers in terms of the Ndebele history.Young generation is not well informed about their Ndebele history so please just interview King Mabhoko.

[@loudmouf]

I was thinking the very same thing.

[@VinTheMaestro]

This man moulded and shaped my life in ways I speak on. He is family. Ngwenyama 🙏

[@VinTheMaestro]

That aside? This is a fantastic history lesson. Kudos to the hosts at large.

[@dlabazanersa3550]

The problems ngamandebele are not united amandzudza adosela le namanala kanjalo you can't defeat your enemy if you are not united as nation.

[@princesibanyoni3086]

@@dlabazanersa3550 well said n dat bothers me r lot

[@MzomtshaKhumalo]

Ngabakwethu,abayeke ukuxabana abantu basemaNtungweni laba.yibo abanobukhosi kwi Afrika yonke

[@KgotsoMahlangu018]

Adosela Kuphi? How Will We Ever Be United Whereby There's iNgwenyama Ezibiza Nengwenyama YamaNdebele Lapha Sazi Bona Ngokwemlandu AmaNdebele Awanayo iNgwenyama YamaNdebele!

[@dlabazanersa3550]

@KgotsoMahlangu018 Naso inkinga yamandebele anizwani put your differences are side nilwelwe istjhaba samandebele

[@lavidaNOTA]

Apologies for the sound issues, I forgot to turn on my mic & the editors did their best to compensate for this. I won’t make that mistake again!

[@tanyanivincent33]

@@lavidaNOTA don't worry my leader it was a wonderful episode

[@sibongilemalefo8380]

Bayede Ngwenyama makwande sitjhaba samandebele. siyathokoza nakuwe dj Sbu & Nota wow this I see today I really am impressed if humility was a person will be named Nota❤

[@mavericktopnotch_za9182]

It’s seems like all the Tribal Authorities have been stripped all their power to their land and it seems like the tribal kings report to the government instead of working side by side,this is really sad

[@JohnDumisani-yh8xq]

Bayede..🎉 Ngwenyama.....

[@sbusisomabusela4661]

Next time be aware of your sound system we needed to hear our king this episode is very important to us.Be aware chief and thanks for visiting undabezitha🔥

[@philanishinga2152]

Give Thanks ❤

[@NhlanhlaHlumbane]

🤲Bayede Ngwenyama🙌

[@DanDlamini-t7l]

Bayede Ndebele

[@thisilajames8225]

Bayede Ngwenyama❤❤

[@LindokuhleMavundla-tk5wu]

Bigup DJ Sbu more of this

[@kaborong]

This is awesome

[@kennethjosephmahlangu8412]

The sound is bad. 😭😭😭😭

[@leonardojordyn4864]

Ndebele people are too marginalised and they allow it..the leadership just want peace and ingoma necude.kwandebele is not even Thier home they were chased out of Pretoria and all arrable lands around mpumalanga

[@Double_Diff]

Mbhuduma🐆

[@anthonytesla8382]

Sbu it's as if you knew I was reading up on this guy

[@Kholo707]

My grandparents arrived in mpumalanga at around 1800 and the place is called Ramantsho just after loding...

[@Kale-y2d]

@@Kholo707 just before what ?

[@TebogoMolloWaBorwa]

Havin grown up KwaNdebele

[@RonaldWinfieldJere]

Language must be preserved, African medicine must be preserved, Dance must be preserved. African Spiritualism must be preserved, Totems or izithakazelo must be preserved and taught to young ones.....................other than learning isithakazelo sakwa Jesu

[@nkulycoolfrag]

I'm not sure about the Surname Spelling

[@philivisualz]

Honestly I wanna hear what they were saying in the car back to jozi after the interview 😅😂

[@nkosinathibafana3765]

Kodwa babethu bekuzokuba kuhle kube kukhekwasetjenziswa ilimi lesintu

[@calmestsounds7950]

Mbhuduma

[@khanyisaOG]

Couldn’t finish cz sound is bad💔

[@jabulanincube3533]

Zuma is working on it lingakhali bafethu Viva MK

[@bhekisibiluane4030]

He had 9 years to fix that😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 why are black people always this gullible. It makes sense why whites took our land in the past.

[@jaydee6593]

Who tampered with the sound 😢

[@Quotethrivemotivations]

the decedents of the kings is not accurate but thanks for having him.

[@GSMMbizana]

Word is bond, we give thanks. 🍃🧩🥋🌞🌚🌌

[@lesibashimane3274]

There is a debate between the Bakgatla tswana clan and the Ndebele about King Musi. Is it the King Malope or king Musi?

[@MehluliPofu]

We amaNdebele of King Musi kaMhlanga kaMafana kaJonono kaNanasa ! Not Malope nor any of Bakgatla . We lived nearby with Bakgatla ,mostly in times of King Silamba .

[@lesibashimane3274]

@@MehluliPofu but you not answering me because the Bakgatla have similar story to what you saying hence the debate about Tshwane hence I am saying we need a discussion because I have history lineage that says Molape i Musi. is musi was how the Nguni people called him. So a discussion is needed.

[@MehluliPofu]

@lesibashimane3274 It's King Musi !

[@lesibashimane3274]

@MehluliPofu and I say it's Kosi Molape simple it's just I can't upload the reference

[@Kale-y2d]

@@lesibashimane3274 it's the same person one blood just that yoll care too much about tribalism

[@Moshoeshoe574]

Historicaly whe is ndebele land coz were reside now it's not there land?

[@Pringle-b1p]

Let's be direct on the solution no violence but use the EFF leading strategy or mentality bring back what they owe. Check Burkina Faso beuse of unity. Please Sbu make an interview with different political members on the topic where SA is going, towards peak point, maturity or decline point. Sure this means we don't know where we come from

[@SibusisoAce]

DJ SBU I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED BY THE SOUND😭 I cleared my table and had my pen and diary ready but the sound robbed me of all this knowledge 😭😭

[@nkatekomhlari]

The sound is horrible. I'm sorry but it's the first time I watch this podcast and experience such bad sound. You can do better.

[@ZakesNzara]

If the truth has to be told, The liberation fighters were sent by our King's to fight and they do so but didn't return the country to those who had sent them they took it and run it themselves.💔 Poor Africa

[@dlabazanersa3550]

😂😂 my goat nota

[@siyacele2377]

The sound is unpleasant... I can't take it anymore, I thought it would get better.

[@ALBERTKHUMALO-u8y]

It seems only the Zulu king is more powerful than all these kings,even on budget they get big share ,and all his houses are well mantained ,

[@MzomtshaKhumalo]

All those people belong to Mntungwa the son of Ntu.Amantungwa dominate the African Continent because there Father is Ntu and all the Kings in Africa share the same totem, because the roots is the same.Amantungwa are the greatest in Africa.Amantungwa got have Kings and Chief all over the African Continent, like it or not😊😊😊

[@timbergalore5470]

Sbu You have hurt my feelings by exposing the truth to me as a Ndebele from the clan of GeGana mthombeni ( Kekana) I'm from Mpumalanga In a village near bronkospruit where people live poverty but being a happy nation. I know people argue we are devoted but people should realise that it's through the Ndebele nation southern Africa was built right up to Tanzania.i was shocked myself to find our people as far as the Congo. They were so happy to see me and associates with the crown. I believe that as sons of muzi we should come together on our diversity bring our brothers from Zimbabwe, Zambia Tanzania , Botswana and Congo and try solve our common problem.

[@Onelove-Oneheart-h4c]

5:48 The sound was bad. But I can tell you the history is sketchy, the idea of king Nguni having four sons is laughable 😂. What about abambo ? It's an insult to Amapondo who are neither Zulu or Xhosa. The idea of king Ndebele is also questionable. I am told the name Ndebele is "Ngunified" version of matebele in sotho Mathebe - amalele/ amatelele meaning long shields. This is reference to Nguni people in general. But the ngunis that lived closed to Bapedi and Batswana took on that identity. Why are we always trying to imagine that we come from one person ? We are scattered. When you go back in history, chiefdoms breaking into smaller chiefdoms was a norm. The Zulu, Sotho and Bapedi kingdom generally grew from the mfecane. Somehow we all trace ourselves either back to Egypt, Ethiopia or Israel 😂. We have to stop these games.

[@johnkhaba9647]

The Bantus migrated from Barombi MBO (Central Africa) MBO is one of our Ancestor. The evidence is in our surname and or clan names, Example with surnames: Mbo-kazi, Mbo-mbela, Mbo-weni,Mbo-neni. Mbo-kani is my mother's surname, she is a Swazi. Dieumerci Mbo-kani is a Congolese professional football player. Sidlukula dledle Sikaloba-MBO is my grandmother clan name she is also a Swazi. There is the surname caĺled MBO Lubo-MBO is name of a mountain in Swaziland. King Sidweda fathered King Sibiside who was once the King of ama MBO, King Sibiside fathered King Njanya, King Njanya is the father of the twins Mpondo and Mpondomise.

[@johnkhaba9647]

Egypt is Mizraim and Ethopia (Cush) they are the descendants of Ham. Israel is not a land, is the name of a nation, the descendants of Shem. The descendant of Shem (Abram) knew the Lord and went in His ways and instructions, and the Lord His God was with Him. The descendants of Cush (Ethiopians) is Nimrod King of Babylon who followed strange gods. Bantu practice U BU NTU, Humanity towards others, I am what I am because of who we all are. The spirit of solidarity, survival, helpfulness, sharing, caring, trust, unselfishness, compassion, respect and dignity.

[@lefaaddenes7650]

There is nothing wrong with the King hes just old otherwise black people in general are not informed properly because of foreign distraction. South Africans are a special group in Africa because the tribes found there like the King's ancestor Guni is found in the Bible. The story of their migration to South Africa is in the Book of Numbers. Read carefully and you will see the similarities even though the cultural practices are now destroyed in 2024.

[@johnkhaba9647]

The Bantu people in general are not informed because they are not willing to learn from their elders. Deutoromy 32 vs 7 reads, Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations, ASK YOUR FATHER AND HE WILL SHEW YOU, YOUR ELDERS THEY WILL TELL YOU. Alll the Bantu people from sub saharan Africa are special people including GUNI the son of Naphtali. The story of their migration begins from north Africa 3000 BCE and expand through west Africa. You can read the book of Jubilees and Genesis. In 1500-1000 BCE Bantu migration spread to south all over Sub Saharan Africa. 500-800 Bantu languages spread throughout the African Great Lakes region. Known as Padanaram in the Bible.

[@Kale-y2d]

​@Onelove-Oneheart-h4c the idea of mfecane is also laughable😅 @@johnkhaba9647

[@zenandedlamini448]

Imagine having a king that is misinformed about who we are as Nguni people , we are a joke shame , he keeps on referencing what the historians say . What about umlando wakubo , as royalty you are entrusted by Mother earth and our ancestors to take care of the land and people. It is true that lamakhosi that we have today are not the real chosen ones . Amakhosi have to undergo ukuthwasa in that way the king whom is living inside the one who is suppose to lead will speak and tell the real truth through that person .

[@Kale-y2d]

@@zenandedlamini448 you are the one who are clueless Bathi historians includes abo somlando vele what you thought?

[@zenandedlamini448]

@Kale-y2d My guy this story of King Nguni and 4 sons is a shitty story,absolute lies, To prove that the Zulu Surname which now rules the KwaZulu Natal people comes from the Ntombela lineage Omageba, Zulu was a brother of Qwabe ,they were sons of Mageba . The Zulu nation is very young ,one cannot link it to the Nguni King ( if such a thing ever existed) KZN history on its own disputes the King Nguni story .So for one to say King Nguni had four sons , Swazi , xhosa ,ndebele and Zulu it is unfounded. Where does that place abambo and them . The old man is misinformed and for a king to be telling such incorrect history is a disgrace because that shows how much he doesn't know about his history and the ppl he is leading. Hence, with all that said this cannot be history from indigenous people ( Our ancestors ) , it is from the whites .

[@MzomtshaKhumalo]

All those people belong to NTU the father of all nations in African Continent,later fathered Mntungwa the father of all Amantungwa in the Southern Africa. Amantungwa dominate the Southern Africa because all the descent Kings belong to Amantungwa

[@Kale-y2d]

@@zenandedlamini448 Gwalagwala ngkuva .

[@zenandedlamini448]

Ta sbuda if you want a true history of the ngunis , you must get hrh inkosi mbhengi of the Mhlongo clan , abaselangeni .His majest has a lot to tell.

[@magodongomsmahlangu4602]

Ouch... The King is referring to the Jan Van Riebeeck history. There is no truth that Xhosa, Swati, Zulu and Ndebele are siblings. That was distorted history we learn at school about four sons of Nguni. AmaNdebele are the descendant of AbaMbo. AbaMbo and Nguni are traces back to Central Africa.

[@zwelethumtshali5558]

The king has to sat down and reminded hhay bo

[@magodongomsmahlangu4602]

@@zwelethumtshali5558 actually there must be a historian to tell the history not the King. The King can speak of His reign experience and plans to improve the lives of His people.

[@Kale-y2d]

Mandrebele are not nguni vele ​@@magodongomsmahlangu4602

[@siyandamazibukoonlife3611]

AmaMbo angamaNguni, just like thina kwaMazibuko singamaMbo

[@siyandamazibukoonlife3611]

Just like kwaMkhize, mabezibongela bathi wena waseMbo

[@mrkabinijankabzar36]

Its sad for me as Ndebele to hear that the Ndebele history has got too many versions and our leaders themselves they dont have same version of our history, Unganyama he keeps on referencing to the historians which most of them are white people, what did he learned from his forefathers that he can tell us? Why there different kings for Amanala nama Nzunza why not 1 king?😢😢

[@MzamoMehlomakhulu]

This is very painful my father perhaps we should teach sbu the real story

[@Daniel_Mahlangu]

the story of 1 king was never there. it was brought in for the love of money. For centuries we had Nzunza and Manala with no problem. Also do research on how the two came about.

[@mrkabinijankabzar36]

@Daniel_Mahlangu well it doesn't seem like they get along well now, even the time I grew up, there was a problem between amanala nama nzunza, so call tribalism,what is your take on that? However you saying that there was 2 kings without problem why they didn't work together like zulu's if they didn't have problems? What was the ideological factor between amala nama nzunza while they talked the same language?

[@Daniel_Mahlangu]

@@mrkabinijankabzar36 Nzunza will not submit under Manala because when they split there was a covanent (isivumelwano sakoNoQoli) where the agreed that these two houses will rule seperatly. Peace was established and these house would collaborate during battles. Manala is where he is today because Nzunza went to get them from Bopothatswana where they were being mistreated by Mangope. Nzunza showed compassion to his brother. Even KwaNdebele was build with trust established under King Mabusabesala. Recently I heard that actualy the ruling house of Manala is Makerana, not this house of Mbombo. Although I am not so sure about this. This was mentioned by Makerana Chief who is in good relations with Mabhoko.

[@mrkabinijankabzar36]

@Daniel_Mahlangu Oooh wow I get it now. Thank you

[@NhlakaniphoSoTshoro]

He is speaking about the history of amaNdebele of Manala as "History of amaNdebele" in general..😴... Thina we are amaNdzundza we were not featured in this conversation...

[@kwenanatureboy1033]

With all due respect, kwandebele was not there in 1978 and It was developed there after. My stand is that Ndebele people were brought to other people's land with trucks and lorries. As they want to grow and be recognized, but we cannot forget that they were used to undermine the Bantwane people on their land. The land belongs to Bantwane, that is why the was a war and the state of emergency which ended in 1987. We are in the process also to fix such error and address the massacre of Bantwane by Ndebele people who were armed by Apartheid to do so. Ndebele people have no land in Pretoria that is why they rejected their claim. they are also rejected in Mpumalanga that is why no incentive from the mines. This are people who were doing great under Apartheid government just like inkatha that killed our people in gauteng during Apartheid............do the Maths

[@africa4africans154]

The story of King Nguni and four sons is not true..

[@vuyanimas3845]

it's not a true story but an allegory

[@timbergalore5470]

@@africa4africans154 please enlighten me my who is these King Nguni and who were his sons you are referring to.

[@nhlanhlakhumalo351]

So disappointing even elders have no depth of knowledge in terms of our history.

[@timbergalore5470]

@@africa4africans154 I think you're duty bound to enlighten your elders if they don't know history than leaving them in the dark space they will never know.

[@africa4africans154]

@@nhlanhlakhumalo351 so sad 😞

[@MzamoMehlomakhulu]

There was never a king called nguni xhosa never existed zulu was malandala son and the swazis are not pure nguni we found them here with no language and culture living on trees and gifted them our Nguni culture and married their daughters

[@ThaboMaseko-o7k]

@@MzamoMehlomakhulu where is it documented orally ? otherwise that statement is charged with tribal superiority

[@MzamoMehlomakhulu]

@@ThaboMaseko-o7k firstly Nguni means abangoni the ones without sin or the sinless people secretly read a book called Indaba my children from vusmazulu mutwa the grand son of ziko shezi three follow the Zulu ancestry lineage and u get malandala wama landakazi malandala was born in the great lake region his father luzumanui a high chef as far the Xhosa look it up they are very clear about their history

[@zwelethumtshali5558]

Cha nonke ningama Swazi... We're all Nguni, abaTwa, AbaKhwe... Hotentoes. All these names were given by foreigners most of them, here we're the origins and never came from anywhere

[@MzamoMehlomakhulu]

@zwelethumtshali5558 lol I didn't say Swazi people are not t said they did not start as Nguni we found them in the mountains in Swaziland

[@MzamoMehlomakhulu]

Plz delete his show this man is making us look like fools he doesn't know his history 😔

[@Nessa-f4k]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nanafisadiki8025]

Kings are the most of ignorant when it comes to their own family history.

[@nanafisadiki8025]

I as a Ndebele am ashamed by the wrong history narrated by a king.

[@jaydee6593]

Mhm ..the king is not taking money that sells the land and gives the government power over kingdoms _

[@KgotsoMahlangu018]

Dj SBU We Do Not Have a Ndebele King Within The Ndebele Nation But However We Have 2 Kings And That Is iNgwenyama uMabhoko Wesithathu Of AmaNdzundza And We Have iNgwenyama uMakhosonke Of AmaNala

[@stuphalomabhena6400]

Im a Mabhena from Zimbabwe. Mzilikazi killed king Sibindi and took all the princes to Zimbabwe. Repatriations should be done to strengthen tge Monarchy.

[@MehluliPofu]

Mzilikazi Killed King Sibindi will all his wives and Kids including the princess that he was given to him as a wife ,he then hold women and children hostage so to control and makes it easy to abduct so many warriors . He later came back sneaking to amaNdebele wakwaNzunza he killed Magodongo luckily couldn't kill all his sons and wives . You guys are of the Mabhena clan yes you're our blood brothers but not the descendants of Sibindi .

[@PhillTholo]

Ndebele ka Mabhudu 1430.King is not well informed about Ndebele history.

[@MzamoMehlomakhulu]

Most boring show ever the kings linage is wrong

[@Rhadasi_Mzilakatha]

I am actually disappointed by uNdabezitha. I expected him to speak on behalf of amaNdebele and not amaNdebele wakwaManala only. We going nowhere as the Ndebele nation!!

[@loudmouf]

You interviewed the wrong king. Thus you're not getting the correct responses..!!!

[@dezoigama2280]

bad sound

[@MatheasSizwe]

Mabena is not our king please ngisasifosti

[@SparxSenyora]

People who look down on monarchs are truly ignorant. Those people we call freedom fighters are the reason why we call ourselves free and democratic but Europeans still control land, resources and the economy. CODESA was the biggest fraud and its resolutions illegal. As Abathembu King jokingly asked, "How did they negotiate for land without the landlords." Now it makes sense why Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi refused to take part in CODESA if they don't invite the Zulu King as well. We need a second CODESA, which is going to be transparent and will involve all the stakeholders. There's no way we can call ourselves free when the same people who stole from us remain in control. The Rainbow Nation is a joke and a mockery of justice.

[@jillexpress3246]

BaSOTHO CAPTURED IN ZIMBABWE WERE THE FIRST TO EXPERIENCE THE WRATH OF inkatha OF MZILIKAZI ,Boipatong ,Naledi ,Mofoloe we still moan with you INKATHA STARTED THE KIDNAPPINGS IN 1820's .Just imagine the pregnant women and the babies being traumatised from KZN to Freestate ,then Mpumalanga ,then Zeerust ,then Bostwana ,Namibian borders then FINALLY ZIMBABWE . JUST VISIT THE EXCLUSIVE SOTHO VILLAGE UP IN NKAYI THEY'LL NARRATE THE PAIN /SHAME THEY WENT THROUGH TREATED AS SLAVES TO CARRY OUT DUTIES AND DRIVE STOLEN CATTLE.King David please ask MR. NTHEBE MOLOPE to include THIS in his book about the fugitive MZILIKAZI.🤔🤔😨😰😡