The AMAZING story of King Mzilikazi who founded the NDEBELE Kingdom | PART 1 | Nthebe Molope

[@mthadaniel]

I’m an Ndebele from koBulawayo and this is our history! Thank you for exploring this topic 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@ModernDayMzilikazi]

Phakama Mthwakazi❤

[@mbekezelikevin1867]

Shoutout to everyone watching this from Bulawayo🇿🇼. Loved every second of this sit down

[@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg]

Mashobana. I am in South Africa and a proud Ndebele

[@finsensetv]

Very profound interview with amazing insights!

[@azilemhlophe7624]

This is outstanding work. History must be told of how great a warrior OkaMashobane was. Let’s support this brother mthwakazi omuhle. He’s done a great job in telling our history. I need to buy the book for myself.

[@Blackmoses2]

Finally someone talks about us.Siyabonga nsizwayangakithi.

[@vicarioen5272]

As a Ndebele person, I am so super excited for this. Thank you for sharing this with us.

[@methembethomastshuma9587]

same

[@keenemonnathebe9152]

Many ndebeles in Botswana...

[@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg]

The author must be invited to our country and tell those who hate us

[@lufefemalala]

The story of one man, narrating a story of the entire southern African history. WOW. I simply cannot wait to get my hands on my copy of this great book. It is a treasure for us who want to know their history. our story.

[@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg]

It is interesting to have someone telling a story of your great grandfather. As a Ndebele I am proud to be a subject of such a great leader.

[@matabelelandbroadcastingcorpor]

You asked a nice question about why Mzilikazi was challenging Shaka. Here is the explanation, when Shaka sent Mzilikazi to raid Ranisi(uSompiso), Shaka gave Mzilikazi a regiment of old and retired soldiers. Ask yourself the simple question, Why? The reason was simple King Shaka intended for Mzilikazi to die in the battle. Shaka did not want to kill Mzilikazi with his own hands due to their closeness, but the growing stature of Mzilikazi was troubling to Shaka. So Mzilikazi knew from the very moment Shaka sent him to Ranisi what his intentions about him were, that is why when he came back he only surrendered the thin cattle to Shaka. Mzilikazi knew that his relationship with Shaka had come to an end and was prepared to focus on his Khumalo clan.

[@warren14567]

That's not true as uMNTNGWA we know our History that King Mzilikaze didn't want to bow to a new young man from Zulu clan, therefore like Sochangaan and Zwangendaba they went Northwards

[@senzothabethe9346]

Not true at all. King Shaka liked Mzilikazi and would not send him on any expedition. Other indunas challenged Shaka to also send him. Shaka eventually did. This upset Mzilikazi such that he did not bring the loot to the king. Apparently Shaka understood and ignored it. The Zulu indunas urged Shaka to take action,bt he was reluctant. Eventually Shaka sent a troop. That's when all hell broke loose. Some men tipped Mzilikazi and he fled. Mzilikazi being a military genius himself was well able to defend and even convince his attackers to flee with him.

[@hillarymaseko2625]

You said it very well but Ranisi is Ranisi and Sompisi is Ndlela ka Sompisi was a general also under Shaka and Dingane.Two different people

[@ElphasRichards]

Lies

[@vinn688]

Comments- all lies

[@Fayz1991]

This just shows how our education across SADC still is weak. This is the kind of history that needs to be taught in schools. Thank you for these platforms that teaches us this important information.

[@Polymathspeaks]

The irony is you are also in SADC

[@Dr_Du-Little]

@@Polymathspeaks I don't get your point

[@ntokozohlatshwayo6045]

It's unfortunate that our country has all resources to conduct the necessary research to fact check our history but they turn a blind eye and continue feeding the kids all this nonsense that's poisoning their minds.

[@zazzleq6139]

BuT you celebrate history every year which is the reason why you fashioned your societies after your oppressors.

[@Dr_Du-Little]

@@zazzleq6139 Wait a minute. Which history in particular? Where our societies fashioned by us or by our oppressors?

[@mludlamini3524]

Big up to you David for always selecting people like Mr Nthebe to give the correct perspective of our History. Keep doing great work guys. Much appreciated 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@kamogelomamabolomohlala1841]

Had the privilege of working with Ntate Molope as a research data collector at Wits Enterprise, what a wonderful man and prolific storyteller.

[@Eddymaf]

Maar he got the wrong story line.He is misrepresenting zulu history and did not do research correctly or has a lack of understanding how to do trace .Come.The are many books and research done on Mzilikazi here i feel he lacked the capability and I am not saying he is completely off the boat but he did not give the factual narration

[@khosiethabekhulu3497]

​@@EddymafHistory can have many faces. It depends who is telling the story and why?

[@ntokozohlatshwayo6045]

​@@EddymafWhat other books can you refer about this history. Let's rather correct and collect enough books to refer to the correct history of our people.

[@mpholurking]

@@Eddymafsince you know better, how about you teach us or point us to the correct version

[@FIFAMobilegoals-fs9qp]

What a brilliant episode! The conversation on King Mzilikazi with Ntate Molope was truly captivating. Ntate Molope, you are an absolute trove of historical knowledge-so eloquent and engaging in your delivery. I found myself completely immersed in the history of our people. I’ve always said that those of us from Matabeleland, Botswana, and parts of South Africa are one people, and this episode beautifully highlighted that connection. Language is indeed our strongest form of evidence. Your idea has sparked something in me-imagine creating a mini-series on the same scale as the legendary Shaka series, centered around King Mzilikazi! The potential for job creation, infrastructure development, and the rehabilitation of heritage sites is immense. And the ancillary benefits? Tourism, fashion, even cultural industries could thrive around this. What a vision! I'm already grabbing a copy of your book-it’s a must-read after this enlightening conversation. Salute, sir! And a special thank you to Bra David for your exceptional interviewing skills-you're a brilliant and engaging host, a true star! Keep up the great work!

[@TheScratchman85]

Kudos to you King David for the interview and to ntate Molope for the wonderful book. The history of Mzilikazi is the history of the transformation of the Zulu people from tribe to nation. He was one of Shaka's best warriors at the battle of Mhlathuze River when Shaka defeated Zwide after the death of Dingiswayo thereby giving birth to the Zulu nation. His prowess in that battle was the reason why Shaka gifted him with he half moon axe and gave his Khumalo people semi-autonomy and guardianship of the northern realms of Zululand. No other general of Shaka was given such accolades. After they fell out, Mzilikazi's wanderings in present day Mpumalanga, Gauteng and North West province form the beginning of the history of the full colonisation of South Africa by Europeans given the battles that he fought against the Afrikaaners and his interactions with early Christian missionaries like his best friend Robert Moffat (the writer of the 1st Tswana bible) and David Livingstone. I for one feel that this man's story is the most epic of all of Africa's great leaders given the adventure that he had, leaving KZN as a chief with a small tribe of 1000 people and arriving in present day Zimbabwe with a nation of 100 000. Shaka Ilembe should have touched on his history otherwise a whole series on him is definitely bound to be an epic hit.

[@QhaweMele]

I'm Ndebele from Zim koBulawayo this King thts my his history right there

[@viwekenneth6028]

Your current King was Raised by the Thembu Royal House

[@lekis5975]

@@viwekenneth6028 Interesting.

[@nyasha_music]

We surely need a MZILIKAZI movie coz even the Rhodes movie only covers Lobhengula and Rhodes lot of ZIMBABWE NDEBELE is not unearth if if the MZILIKAZI story is not fully told

[@Vaal650]

It is OUR collective history; Borders are a recent thing. The author explains how Mzilikazi impacted Southern Africa so significantly, it's all our history.

[@bulelanindhlazulwana9311]

So proud today thina Dawu

[@calebpilime6375]

Every literate Southern African needs to listen to this. This man and Thabo Mbeki are not historians by schooling but have become powerful historians through passion and Pan Africanism.

[@mpumibikitsha6891]

I loved the story about the Berlin Conference where abelungu literally drew the map by hand allocating themselves these regions for their missionary work. Today we’re struggling with demarcations that were superimposed on us. I’ve done a lot of research in this area and that’s why I respect you and admire you for this effort. I’m honoured that I got this book from Pumla, your relative, and I revere it so much. 🙏🏽

[@juniorgogela5454]

No podcast come close to this podcast mfoka Mashabela, muhle umsebenzi

[@koketsonkanyane3211]

100%

[@tebogokekana2366]

I was recently forced by academics to write about my history, and I identified a big gap on how undocumented our history is generally. I really have appreciate what Mr Molope is doing... Especially because I have Ndebele heritage. I need to buy this book to learn.

[@Mshengu]

Brilliant David, absolutely brilliant. This is what the country needs right now.

[@wilkhumalo1856]

I think Mzilikazi had perfected a way of conquering and growing his influence, he became obsessed and kept going building his kingdom. He actually saw a bigger picture than Shaka.

[@mthokozisixaba2137]

The is probably the best podcast I have ever watched. Well-done to these two chaps, didn't even feel like 4hrs

[@MPMaake]

what an interesting SA history . exactly what we should have learned in primary,

[@philanimpofu-l3m]

As a Proudly Ndebele...I always say King Mzilikazi was a great King a Nation builder

[@siphamandlakhumalo5074]

I'M A KHUMALO WHO LIVES IN KWAZULU NATAL IN SA I HAVE STRONG BELIVE THAT I'M A NDEBELE OR A DECENDENT OF NDEBELE I DNT REGARD MY SELF AS UMUZULU BECAUSE UBUKHOSI BAKITHI ABUKAZE BUKHOTHAMELE KWAZULU OR BUZE BUFAKWE NGAPHANSI KWAZULU. MYB THATS WHY UBUKHOSI BAKITHI BUHLAKAZWA KEPHA I'M GLAD UBABA IS RAISING SUCH TRUE HISTORY EN I EDGE EVER KHUMALO TO BUY THIS BOOK. SIYABONGA KAKHULU BABA NGOKUSIPHA UMPAKO WAKITHI INKOSI ZAKITHI ZOKUBUSISA❤❤❤❤

[@Mzilikazi_Afrika]

UnguMntungwa not umNdebele and eMsinga they is a place called kwaMabaso and it is also home for us amaNtungwa because Khumalo and Mabaso are brothers.

[@warren14567]

The Ndebeles live in Mzansi, those in Zimbabwe are Abathwakazi

[@tebatsomoleko862]

Oh please you're Zimbabwean wena... Stop with the drama

[@princekhumalo7180]

​@tebatsomoleko862 you are too confused to give an opinion in this matter

[@mxolisimaome9651]

Yes you are Ndbele... But one of the families and tribes conquered by shaka...

[@uncletee1853]

This man loves Africa, well researched history great narration One Africa Siyabonga baba

[@sifisoduma7356]

Halfway through and already feel like we need part 2 of this. This conversation can stretch beyond Mzilakazi history the way the man is so educated regarding our history

[@whitegiantsrecyclablesasse4359]

🎉 I love Both these men.This is Interview of the year.Both episodes..watched the whole 4 hours

[@zolanevincentmconga8085]

This is very important to South African, it need a documentary, or series 🤔

[@SiphoMkhwanazi]

We have nuch to do.

[@khosiethabekhulu3497]

We need to get up and do things ourselves.

[@Mthungameli_Gumbo]

Mr Molope is a Gem🤞. He's dedicated a lot of time studying our King, We wouldn't know most of these things, definitely NOT from that Education syllabus we have💔🙌. Siyabonga baba

[@joelmtombeni4920]

We learnt chigwedere narrative

[@Mthungameli_Gumbo]

@@joelmtombeni4920 😂😂😂😭

[@HazelWard-x5x]

It's a pity that King Mzilikazi has just emerged now to most of the Southern African countries..The Swati people knew at about him and there's a place named after him not far from Lubombo mountains..We were told from generation to generation about him passed down through our grandfathers..Nothing was really lost at all..We knew in eSwatini about him Siyabonga nine beKunene

[@khosiethabekhulu3497]

So why ningakhulumi? Kunini bezifunza ngama French Revolution!

[@cheppytshuma3116]

Thanks for the history lesson, this man knows his story. This is what we need, to document our own history.

[@nkanyisomlobane1497]

We the people of the Mthwakazi nation are grateful for this episode

[@PrinceDube-p9r]

Zimbabwe kobulawayo. ...they're called Ndebele clan

[@mabee7ify]

sivela koMthwakazi. Such beautiful history we have. Even to this day Zanu fears the Matebele warriors that is the king is recognised by the state problems will once again start

[@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg]

Thanks. Indeed we can't hide from the fact that the author is talking about our leader

[@nozukolungcuzo169]

I’m back to listen for the 2nd time! This is by far your best guest and podcast episode for me. Thank you so much

[@Matarenda]

Thank you so much. I love History and wanna learn as much as I can.

[@tshepomongale333]

Wow. Mashabela. This is very interesting. You guys have single handedly without help from government documented our history. After the passing of Mbongeni I went back and watched the interview you had with him.

[@southernafricanboy4148]

The stories are very alive and well and documented. People like Rockford McGuire a qhite man and many other whites lived with Mzilikazi in Zimbabwe and left diaries and so on

[@googlegoogle3491]

As a Khumalo am proud about the detailed research shared, it will help us, our children and grand children to know our background. Well done brothers

[@macbethncube3115]

Wow finally i Nkosi u Mzilikazi ka Mashobane is being recognized. This was a powerful king who travelled all over Southern Africa and founded the Mthwakazi/ Ndebele Nation...

[@trivagravia4837]

Im a descendent of a Zulu great grandmother and a Zezuru great grandfather. What l was told is Shaka and Mzilikazi had a strong brotherly love. Infact they met at Dingiswayo's kraal. Mzilikazi aligned with Dingiswayo's kraal of Mthethwa Kingdom after King Zwide murdered his father Mashobane and Shaka was sought after as they thought he was going to return and take the Zulu throne after his father's death. So they both took refuge under the Mthethwa Kingdom where they met. What happened is they created a brother connection and it is Mzilikazi's chieftancy general and the Mthethwa generals who actually helped Shaka to take back the throne in the Zulu kingdom. When Shaka became King Mzilikazi was his close political advisor and all. To cut a long story short, Shaka and Mzilikazi had to come to a brotherly agreement to part way after many disagreements on how to handle things. They realised they had created 2 centres of power between themselves. Shaka actually realised that Mzilikazi was a King on his own right and they had to peacefully agree to part ways. Thats why Mzilikazi left with lots of wealth. He ddnt run away or flee it was by Shaka's blessing. Thats why also after the death of Shaka , Dingane went after Mzilikazi to try kill him as he thought Mzilikazi may revenge the death of Shaka. By then Mzet had settled in present day Gauteng. So Shaka and Mzilikazi had some deep brotherly affection no animosity whatsoever.

[@valentineisraelshabangu4069]

Your story is a lie

[@trivagravia4837]

@@valentineisraelshabangu4069 say your true story, l will wait..

[@KamCoder]

Common sense is not always common. Hence I will vouch that as a South African Tourism Expert, your view makes sense. @trivagravia4837

[@mrm.makhubu1748]

Shaka and Mzilikazi dont meet until Digiswayo is killed by Zwide. So they could not have both lived under a dead Dingiswayo...

[@trivagravia4837]

@@mrm.makhubu1748 dude come on, Shaka was trained by Dingiswayo...Dingiswayo made Shaka..he coined that warrior Shaka

[@maiterammala5006]

Bravo....! SA needs knowledge about their history so they can start to value and own their country and everything in it. The level of drug abuse is scary and makes one wonder if we will ever know where we are going. This book narrates where we come from as South Africans surely, we will now know where we must go....This book MUST be prescribed in schools. This is the kind of history we need as a country. I don't have words to thank the author for this. We dropped the ball, knowledge is power...

[@blesseddube3168]

Thanks King for this great conversation, we only new about the betrayal but it seems he contributed immensely in the building of the Zulu empire

[@mariabernice8154]

Thank you King David for this peerless, profound history from Ntate Molope,cant wait for part 2

[@jabulanisibanda1780]

Respect to the author. Interesting that your account has brought to light what thina AmaNdebele kaMzilikazi never got to be taught at school. Mashabela bro respect to you. Love how you’ve unearthed and curated these legends amongst our midst.

[@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg]

True South Country claiming to teach this in form 1 and form 2 were only offering small bits and pieces. The author has done a great work for the continent.

[@clifordmlotshwa]

Wow!!! Ngifunde lukhulu la Ntate Molope i thought i knew the history of Mzilikazi but now i see i only new a drop in the Ocean, being a descendants of Mzilikazi we really value your research. Great job, no one has told it like you do.

[@nkosanadonga1344]

Beautiful work "Dr." Nthebe Malope. I dare to call you Doctor because you do not need to study towards a PhD. Your work qualifies you for an Honorary Doctorate.

[@siphamandlakhumalo5074]

U WIL NEVER WRITE A SUCH A BOOK WITHOUT SPITUAL CONNECTION WITH KINGDOM OF MZILIKAZI SIYABONGA UKUTHI UMZILIKAZI UKHULUME KUWE

[@nkululekozulu6998]

King Dave, this meal you are serving on this instalment is of a super higher nutrient quality. For me land relations' matters remain a sensitive subject, however this episode actually helped me reconcile rifts in my head as far as shifts in land possessions is concerned.

[@musawenkosimabena583]

This is a great history thank you so much Ntate, Mzilikazi a great warrior uniting the Southern African. Can you please based to this great information create a movie Ntate. Our history is fading away and the new generation is becoming weak and naive about history what kind of a nation are we herding to, the western mind must be flushed out

[@domineendlovu3896]

I am a Ndebele from KwaBulawayo, this is amazing

[@theafrikaneye]

subscribed today because i finally feel included in south african conversations, Proudly Ndebele

[@imacmduduziadams8951]

This was the most captivating interview I have ever listened to. Well done.

[@thegirlfromBulawayo]

Very insightful and the book is on amazon, perfect.

[@yawesambo]

Can’t wait for PART 2🔥This man is a fountain of historical knowledge

[@fortunetshabalala3388]

Thank you for this Mashaba and Nthebe Molope. just bought the book off Amazon😊

[@Dr_Du-Little]

Now we need a movie about Mzila-wegazi (Mzilikazi) based upon this book / information

[@SiphathisiweMzishe]

The information of this podcast was so necessary leading me to believe that this book/literature is necessary not only for the singular reader but for the educational system.

[@lekis5975]

Good luck to DA approving it. The colonisers don't want to decolonize our education lest we become truly enlightened. By the same token, their puppets (Ramaphosa etc), don't want the education to be decolonized because we will refuse to take bullshyt once we know who we are, once we know that our grandfather's didn't take bullshyt, once we become enlightened and wise!

[@tembaphiri4329]

A history or any history must be verified and scrutinized also by people outside of its community. If it's factual the information and research solidifies it's authenticity. Very educational and indeed Ntate Molope is a TEACHER by calling

[@agangproductions1042]

I've read a few chapters of the book and cannot wait to read the rest. Well done Mr. Molope for sharing your wealth of knowledge.

[@davisweeds9406]

Kenyan and proudly African.....love the history lesson

[@banzisimelane7691]

Gentlemen the conversation is riveting and so educational, we need to educate our kids our history as told by our ancestors. Well done sir for writing the book am getting a copy today. Thank you David for your guest. African excellence right there! Akwande!!!

[@methembethomastshuma9587]

Yim lo ugodlwayo umahlaba ayithwale, umfoka gumbi, umageza ngochago, ngiphuma laph ezansi okunentomb eningi igolide elingapheli, a proud descendant of Mzilikazi ijaha lase nfilabusi.

[@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg]

Thanks again my homey

[@Hkay23]

As Southern African countries we owe Khoisan pple our lives...their language really has to be recognised fully in all countries ❤️💯💯

[@lenso3757]

Not only that ,Khoisan are the original owners of Southern Africa all other tribes are settlers like white people. They came from Central Africa and they killed many Khoisans and they took their land.

[@ntokozolindokuhle5265]

@@lenso3757we are not settlers like white people this is Africa we are not settlers here a white men is not a settler anywhere in Europe that’s his home land

[@VictoriaMuzenda]

I don't think you do understand African history. Do you know that China was the first country to trade with us? Khoisan are a mixed race of black people and Chinese. So we owe Khoisan nothing. Today we only see San people. Where are the Khoe Khoe? Who brought Khoisan name? Who brought Bantu name? Letting a white man telling your own history..

[@lenso3757]

@@VictoriaMuzenda You are wrong en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoisan

[@lenso3757]

@@ntokozolindokuhle5265 Why did they kill the Khoisan if we are the same people? That was the settler mentality. If we are not settlers and Africa is our homeland, why do we call other Africans from different African countries foreigners, or why are we called foreigners when we visit other countries?

[@silasramoroka8024]

We need more of this kind of interviews, so interesting,and David questioning relevant questions 👌

[@wickedcartoons7837]

Finally nice to see our culture taking world stage vuka mthakwazi vuka

[@llinksenterprise4877]

Great Story teller we have here ❤ , I could listen to him all week. 🙏

[@Thabaniization]

Love these conversations as a self-taught student of history myself.

[@SelloKhunou1]

This now makes sense why Mr Mbuso khoza said the death of king Shaka was the deterioration of the Zulu nation. The stories correlates. King David please please please bring Ntate Mbuso Khoza in to give what he knows of the Zulu nation and the history of u prophet Shembe.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@ratibamohale]

I love ntate molope. He is such vessel and a teacher

[@christophersemenya9890]

His insights are of a paramount value. We're not only celebrating well known figures, but researchers too. Thanks 🙏👍

[@greenpeace7380]

Am one person who hated history, despised people who studied history at school and varsity. But i was dead wrong. That was a system problem, and i think history should be compulsory from primary to highschool. Now am crazy about history, and i regret hating it at school.

[@basicallyyoung7368]

Bra David, Thank you for this. More and More Please!

[@BhekiMgaga]

On the question, why did Shaka ordered his army to make way for Mlizikazi to escape? We have learned here that Mzilikazi's father Mashobane died for saving Shaka's life when Dingiswayo was killed by Zwide. My view is that Shaka felt that he owed Mzilikazi after he was saved by his father and that he deserved to start over somewhere with those cows. To avoid the two bulls in the same kraal thing.

[@lekis5975]

Yes! Even me I heard that. Not the one about Mashobane saving Shaka, but that when Shaka heard Mzilikazi was matching away, he ordered a squad to follow him, but not to harm a hair on his head. He just wanted any others who were plotting to leave, to know that leaving was unacceptable and would be challenged, by the same token, he knew Mzilikazi had a desire to have his own Kingdom, and rightly so considering he was a King in his own right (son of Mashobane of the Khumalos, and grandson of King Zwide of the Amandwandwe).

[@Eddymaf]

Shaka and Mashobane were close and people must stop lying.Mzilikazi was ambushed by Zwide shaka was nowhere near .

[@lekis5975]

@@Eddymaf Indeed they were close. I'd like to imagine they bonded because King Zwide killed their fathers King Mashobane and King Dingiswayo; Dingiswayo was like a father to Shaka.

[@mhlangamlungisi5108]

The downfall of king zwindwe kaLanga was mainly a product of intelligence and strategy it was Mzilikazi who brought all the intelligence and even lured King Zwide's top spy Noluju Khumalo and Mncumbatha ka Kholo of the eMancwanweni or Mfeka people . These 3 names come out tops in the stoery of the fall of King Zwide shaka never forgot those who did good for him so he was always grateful for that.

[@JabulaniMcdonaldNyati]

Its great you answered the most simple question. Your work should be a game changer Sir.

[@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg]

Magnificent

[@ntokozobiyela8900]

Very well researched and articulated. Thank you sir. I'm a history fanatic as well and busy putting together the history of the Biyela Clan.

[@mthobisibrainbox5715]

Can't wait for part 2

[@mabee7ify]

have been watching this the past few hours and in love.

[@SibusisoLuthuli-t6p]

This story is very exciting for the fact that shaka is being proclaimed as someone who was undefeatable if Mzikilikazi history is told it changes the entire narrative about Zulu history. Hence the story of Shaka Zulu was created to conceal reality

[@billtev9846]

Yes, as I have stated before, Mzilikazi was the tip of the spear for the Zulu nation, without him there is no Zulu nation. He is also South Africa and Zimbabwe’s major freedom fighter, is there any other military leader in Southern Africa with such credentials? His battles are all documented, his influence can be seen heard and felt as far as north the Zambezi.

[@Thapelo-zf8cx]

Amen. Well said.

[@senzothabethe9346]

Ubaba Molope narrates the story of King Shaka and King Mzilikazi very well. Shaka was very reluctant to pursue Mzilikazi even though he had shown defiance and eventually fled. He let him go.

[@mlangenimashakeni5679]

Even persuing was not an easy thing cause mzilikazi was powerful aswell. He repelled Shaka's Impi that persued hum at mhlahlandlela(now pretoria). So it's not he was just running away

[@magadlaza4790]

All the Khumalos mark the register here✍

[@thembakhumalo-li7bl]

😂😂😂😂

[@vinn688]

Khumalos are liars and cowards.

[@JabulileSihlolaNdlovu]

I'm here

[@mhlengispace]

Mbulaz

[@JabulileSihlolaNdlovu]

@@mhlengispace yebo yithi abanikazi bomhlaba,oNgangezwe😂😂😂

[@mthoko01]

Thanks King David for this. I am buying this book.

[@sicelosimelane3844]

Good people we were not there so let us not fight over this beautiful interesting interview by these two legends here. What i heard growing up from legends about Mzilikazi is that King Shaka would see his bravery and victories in wars they fought together and he could see and hear people around whispering that he might become a dictator to Zulu throne in future. Then King Shaka knowing how good a worrier and a dear friend he was he tested his bravery and trust by sending him to collect those cows from that king BUT he gave him a weak army of old tired men then that did not sit well with him cos the king he was sent to was little bit powerful so he Mzilikazi look at that scene from Ilembe as a form of betrayal. Mzilikazi gone and apply unusually tactics to fight that king with those madalaz and won the battle then he sent back not all the cows because he felt aggrieved by King Shakaz decision. KING Shaka send messengers like ubaba is saying then Mzilikazi fled with the cows to Mozambique. This above story made sense to me back than since it was not clear as to what would cos great thinkers and worriers in King Shaka and King Mzilikazi to fight betray and part ways. NB this story i was told by my home legends.

[@praisendlovu]

I am so excited about this!! I cant wait to buy this book!

[@tankisothafeni4428]

Good work, Grootman David. Knowing your history is not only significant. It is necessary.

[@DumisaniNetha-u1y]

Powerful historical facts please write another book about Joshua nkomo

[@modisemodise2335]

I think the reason why Shaka let Mzilikazi go was because he Mzilikazi was the only person who knew Shakas deep weaknes that why he could challenge him. Also remember this guy was cooked in big pots by his mother in law so Shaka knew the danger also he still remember his father well so all those combined he didnt want fight him

[@bulelanindhlazulwana9311]

Listening with so many tears thank you king D

[@G-ManWaseKasiInManchester]

Thanks Bra Dave and Nthebe Molpe, God bless you.

[@sophiemashishi285]

Awesome def gettin the Book ,brilliant!

[@j2b348]

I truly enjoyed this video and the explanation of Zulu and Ndebele history. However 200 years in an historical context is truly not a long time ago. 😊

[@bellatalkssa405]

Rre Molope o tshwana le Jerry Skosana. The place is called Pitsedisulejang, eseng yang, which is exactly what he says about the Zulu language. Batswana ba rata to water down the words. Ke ngwana wa ko Taung but I grew up between Madikwe le Tlhakong, Mabeskraal and I'm very familiar with those areas, I enjoyed listening to this one a lot. It pains me to see ka bo di Heritage Day, Motswana a apere seZulu a be a re ke ka gore seZulu se sentle, jang batho ba Modimo. So I agree with Mr Molope to say, Zulu's managed to package their culture so beautifully. The Nguni's actually, not only Zulu's

[@khosiethabekhulu3497]

Everyone wears anything these days. I also have Tswana outfits and I am Zulu. The attire and style is beautiful. It is not a one way love. It is a two way love. I am going to buy more Tshwana things.

[@kentuckyfriedchicken4740]

ke mathata hela kgaitsadi

[@blessedsibusiso7187]

I can't wait for part 2 cause wow I thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@kingdavidstudio1]

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[@gilbertncube986]

Great work Ntante Molope, with amazing and relevant anecdotes 🎉

[@annemudadi]

This is form 1 and form 2 history in Zimbabwe high schools...great to be reminded of what we learnt in high school.

[@DanielNgwenya-ik3zg]

In south africa it was treated as oral history. It was told at night around the fire. BUT the focus here is about what the author has presented. The greatest downfall of the African society is that we fail to acknowledge the good work done by our own. Af for me the author did a good work. Our duty is to critique his work in scholarly platforms. Not allowing the discussion to follow that narrow-minded direction. This is not about Zimbabwe or South Africa. It is a research by intensely educated individuals.

[@Lostduke_]

You are lying. High School history taught you that Mzilikazi ran away during Mfecane

[@nqobilesm-sondlo9420]

@Lostduke & why are you the Custodian of what s/he learnt or what was taught?

[@sithembeleqamba3726]

Yhooo i love this...the kind of history we should have been taught in school.❤❤❤

[@thembanidlamini7328]

@KingDavid & Mr Molope, this is gold. Thank you so much. I can't wait to get my hands on the book. I am a Dlamini. My paternal side of the family is Xhosa speaking. Perhaps this book will help me better explore imvelaphi yami.

[@modisekojoane5876]

Thanks you, king David......we need more the likes of bra Nthebe Molope. Salute

[@ompatilekgosiemang1991]

Great interview. I have learned so much from this episode. I would like to see more of this including stories from other tribes

[@TechnicalMom-kg5tw]

Surely having heritage sites well taken care of

[@uzzielekgoete5273]

King David is the best Interviewer, 💥💥❤

[@KatlegoPodile]

Very insightful episode. patiently waiting for Mbuso Khoza as well.

[@ThulaniKhoza2106]

I read the whitewashed edition of this part of history (Mzilikazi: The Great Bull Elephant - Craig Groenewald) it would be nice to contrast the two books. This is a valuable addition to my reading list🙂.

[@Nkanyiso-m6q]

Interesting history I bieng great grandson of Sibindwane with our area named after him thank you Ntate Molope