“Car Values Are Plummeting!” Doug Demuro Exposes MASSIVE Price Cuts, Deals, & Ripoffs in 2025

[@jcat96]

Doug the type of guy to be a guest on his own podcast

[@Stickyfingerz98]

Garage*

[@FHAREN3]

Doug is the type to not comb his hair, but now wears one medium sized shirt.

[@batitsogtsaikhan469]

😂😂😂

[@aoeuuaoaou]

@@FHAREN3 It's the pinnacle of "rich enough to not GAF". The American Dream, baby.

[@njrivetelite]

The values aren’t plummeting The bloated prices are no longer selling

[@ryanbon2414]

Values are definitely plummeting. Higher end cars lose 18-22% of their value each year on average. For standard vehicles, like a Ford Explore it’s around 10-15%

[@trishaleaver3581]

Wrong. The prices have gone out of control and are going to be restored to pre pandemic prices or less. It’s not inflation it’s greeflation!

[@user-te3qq1rb7u]

That’s kind of the same thing isn’t it? The “bloated price” that actually sells IS the market value. We’re not talking about a few outlier sales that went for over value. We’re talking about years of cars selling at high prices. The market value is whatever something actually sells over, and the market can’t instantly react to downturn in pricing like you are seeing now.

[@GamerNRetro]

@@trishaleaver3581because corporations just discovered greed.

[@sumofl]

@@user-te3qq1rb7u yeah same coin: different side, people telling others that they're wrong so they can claim right.

[@bryanmiller2023]

Doug the kind of guy to install two chargers at his home when he doesn't own a single EV.

[@timmysfittness903]

I don’t know anything about Doug but the way you worded this comment makes me think this already happened

[@MatthewJay80]

@@timmysfittness903Yes, he said it in this podcast

[@AD-se7ty]

He stated he's planning ahead. Makes perfect sense as installation prices will be insane years later when folks need them and he will need both for him and his wife.

[@rjsoderlund81]

yeah, a VW one and a Tesla one... just in case.

[@norcalpacific]

range anxiety is not the issue. The number one thing you never hear about on the news, Is that tens of millions of Americans live in apartments with no garages. They cannot charge at home. So their only option is charging stations which take an hour to fully charge compared to a gas station in 2 minutes.

[@xboy4331]

100% this. People don't have range anxiety, they have charge anxiety. And it wasn't helped by the fact that electrify america has been a dumpster fire up until the last year or so, which meant you could only realistically consider an ev if you were a home owner.

[@bahrahme]

Also, charging stations are "EXPENSIVE".

[@Thesaltyseafish]

@@bahrahme They are, in some cases they're not far off the cost of fuel for a civic or TDI. Your depreciation and maintenance are way higher, used economy cars are under 20C/mile to operate and depreciation alone on an EV is worse than that.

[@amccaulx]

Depreciation anxiety is way worse. EVs lose ~50%+ their value in just a few years

[@DavidCarter-nc7jx]

range anxiety is still an issue.

[@sladestreet6086]

I could listen to this for 7 hours. Not even a car guy. incredible

[@TheoSmith249]

Listen at 1/4 speed

[@sladestreet6086]

@@TheoSmith249 Hahahahahah!!!

[@XxMusclecarsxX]

Doug is such a good talker. He carries conversation effortlessly and I was very surprised he talked about other youtuber's money situations.

[@Pwnulolumad]

@@TheoSmith249 rofl

[@djremotion2]

No car guy could, because these are pretentious california conscious people, essentially rich EV-lefties and not car guys really.

[@cosmicpowa]

Please let cars go back to reasonable prices.

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

They slowly are! Electric cars are a bargain these days.

[@TheWityful]

What’s reasonable to you? Free?

[@jeebusk]

yea i only buy 10 yr old cars 😅

[@Brian-dr2yi]

It's the govt requirements that make it expensive.

[@DolphinDivingChamp]

Cars are not reasonable, they are cheap af

[@carquestionsanswered]

So glad you let Doug have a mic stand and didn't make him hold the mic the whole show haha

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

We’re learning 😅

[@devongee1776]

It's Doug's studio lol.

[@d12a24p]

So glad he got to use his own mic in his own office. How are you a Doug fan and somehow missed this?

[@gfdia35]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@DontKick]

I didn't know CQA didn't have a checkmark

[@Aglai76]

15 year old manual Honda Fits with 150k miles being listed at $7.5k+ Or 80k miles for $11.5k is insane

[@motomarmot6544]

😂😂😂 yep I was shopping for a Fit for my niece and saw that.

[@ianjohnson5365]

That’s what happens when companies make a good reliable cheap easy to work on car

[@SillyScrew4EVA]

Couldn't agree more. I'm lucky to live across the Pond. Yesterday, I bought a 2019 Fit S 1.3L, 18,200 miles; lots of bells/whistles for a Fit. I paid US$$7,233 out the door - 2 yrs. warranty on the powertrain; 2 yrs. Honda Maintenance Package, ; 2 yrs. Compulsory Liability Ins; 2 yrs. Mandatory Road Tax. I asked for new tires and they agreed. Sunset Orange II is a gorgeous color. Prices in the USA are insane.

[@lot2196]

I love my 2017 Fit. Going to drive it forever!!!!

[@dbcooper1509]

Thank Obama and Cash for Clunkers.

[@ghDmitry]

17:26 Doug is wrong; the Chinese market has huge subsidies for EV production. It mainly involves manufacturers, not the population.

[@FinishHim90]

Yeah. They are just subsidizing the production. Thats why they are

[@pmscalisi]

China does that with most of their manufacturing.

[@daniels2761]

And slavery

[@Driftmonkey]

Explains why there are tonnes of brand new EV graveyards. Probably local politicians just trying to get a slice of the pie saying yup yup look we made all these cars!!! .....no one wants em? Okay to the graveyards they go!

[@danielmatheson7305]

$230 billion over 15 years with half of that being sales tax subsides on purchases. Chinese manufacturers can still produce EV's substantially cheaper.

[@davyannajones]

I met Leno in 2012. He took a picture with me & we talked about cars for like 30 minutes. He was definitely the coolest celebrity I ever met.

[@zekecowans7792]

calm down. he's just another dude

[@njpme]

​@@zekecowans7792always raining on someone's parade

[@yourgrandmasjzexboyfriend]

@@zekecowans7792the adults are talking. Simmer down zeke

[@revelersridge136]

Jeff Foxworthy is another celebrity that is just another regular type guy. I’ve heard T. Pain is very down to earth too. Both of these guys live in my area…

[@jimyoung5533]

not one iced coffee in sight...

[@idle_pete]

As god intended

[@JoshuaBates01]

@@idle_peteshame

[@78criddle]

Interesting listening to these guys trying to understand why EV struggle in the Midwest. Then go on to acknowledge cross country trips take an extra day due to charging. Midwest is often referred to as "fly over country". Long drives are typical, not rare here. 200 mile drive to meet a family member for a birthday lunch then 200 miles back home isn't a big deal in rural areas. Factor in Sub Zero temperatures for months on end and even a 1 hour trip into the city and back for dinner is too much for the typical ev battery.

[@DolphinDivingChamp]

Nah they are just stubborn rednecks, every household could have 1 ev 1 gas

[@MohawkFlippinMike]

Yeah coworkers of mine got an EV and can’t really go out of town. If they go to Des Moines (hour and half away) they literally have to have one spot to stop or have to charge up before leaving back to our town

[@pepperonish]

The vast majority of people in the midwest are not driving two hundred miles regularly.

[@John-du2mq]

Yes they do. I commute 40 miles one way. Then if I go to a neighboring town for errands before I go home, I tack on another 40 to said town. That's 120 miles in 1 day. It doesn't take a long time because there's no traffic so it's doable. I am not an outlier either.

[@MohawkFlippinMike]

@ are you in the Midwest? Cause one winter the freezing temps killed the batteries faster. I still think utility wise for around town and to and from work an EV isn’t that bad

[@GammaRays10]

The idea that people buy cars without the expectation that they will be worth nothing by the time they're done with them.... The naivety is real It's a tool, not an investment.

[@MrPland1992]

If you buy cool cars they hold their value. My hellcat cost less to own than my Camry for 6 months even factoring in gas.

[@menacingdonutz]

Everyone wants everything to be an investment now and can’t seem to wrap their minds around the fact that not everything is.

[@danguelph2676]

@@MrPland1992 hellcat is meh, nothing special or cool really, just another domestic crap

[@normsantos144]

That was my expectation with our 2016 Honda Odyssey Ex-l. Drove it for 9 years and put 85k miles on it with 2 young kids. I was thinking it wasn’t worth much but was pleasantly surprised when Carvana gave me 16.5k for it. I thought that was amazing considering we paid 36k for it.

[@nickhexum01]

Yup. I use my vehicle to make memories by myself and with others. If it's worth anything by the time I'm ready to sell, that's a bonus.

[@charlesdavis7940]

Great conversation. Nice talk about how hard it is to run a business.

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

Wow!!! Thank you so much Charles!

[@JMEtheredge]

As a long time viewer of both channels this is one of the most valuable conversations I’ve ever listened to on KZbin or any other platform. Thank you to all three of you for taking the conversation into a wildly different direction I thought it would go. I am saving it to rewatch many time again. There are a lot of golden nuggets in this video. Thank you.

[@cliffthatcher4574]

If prices are falling, that only means they will be at their actual worth instead of some over-inflated value.

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

One day!

[@TurboPonies]

That’s why I am surprised to see a celebration of depreciation 5 months into the ownership. I don’t get it.

[@terrymoten1222]

That's interesting. Why would a fallen price be considered its "actual" worth and not the price you deemed "overinflated"? I would submit that whatever price one is willing to pay determines its worth.

[@markbrown8097]

​@@terrymoten1222tell that to all the banks that wrote loans for well over actual value that are eating all the repossessions now. Who will probably be begging for bail outs at our expense soon.

[@MatrixJockey]

@@terrymoten1222 because the price of the vehicle is the vehicle the automaker and dealership charge you. The actual cost is significantly cheaper.

[@MeJonTheDon]

Home prices and cars have gotten so ridiculous that they have priced most of my middle class friends and acquaintances out of the markets entirely. Its amazing how even small markups in MSRP over the last several years create demand destruction, given the lack of quality, more expensive things that need to be replaced, and the fact that they were already too expensive for many BEFORE the money printing and population shifts

[@joe97nsx]

That's nothing compared to how bad it is in Canada. Housing costs and automobile costs are much higher, and we have lower incomes.

[@MeJonTheDon]

@joe97nsx i can't imagine, but I veleive you. It's a similar thing happening many places, but places like NY are probably one of the best proxies due to Chinese investors bidding up asset prices to get their money out of their country regardless of the potential loss. It's a vicious cycle of inflationary forces creating paper wealth that will only be seen as the charade it is when the rug is pulled and there are not enough buyers anywhere near the price levels of today

[@joe97nsx]

@MeJonTheDon for us, it's our idiot Prime Minister who indiscriminately more than doubled immigration rates over the last few years. Government spending and overtaxation has been a disaster too. There is no tax that this government doesn't love and it's driven the cost of everything up. Now inflation has finally cooled off but it's mostly due to everyone being too poor to buy anything now. Gdp per capita has been dropping for 6 consecutive quarters.

[@oimfc37]

Yea but atleast you can get curry on every corner now​@@joe97nsx

[@heavycream6682]

It really feels like the only thing to do is just horde cash. It crazy when "upper class" people can't afford to buy or have to get a kick down from their parents.

[@jestocost8210]

"I can't justify losing new car money". The most relatable phrase Doud ever said. Thanks. I have only had one new car, a 1982 Subaru. The rest were used, many others brands including 4 Corvairs, 3 BWMs, 4 Porsches and 4 Volvos. and many other one offs.

[@aim-for-greatn3z947]

I recently learned this the hard way. Yes it nice driving a new model car that literally dropped months or weeks ago. However losing OVER 50% is INSANE and stupid! I own a high end car rental business and for example i bought this year the new BMW X7 fully loaded m package. The car came to 87k because I have connections, HOWEVER by the end of THIS year 2025 the car is already worth 50k😂 This is just one example and mind you it have over 20 different vehicles

[@dragonrace43]

The only issue I have with all these "why not features" comes down to price because a good number of us want the car as cheap as possible and don't want to pay for a ton of features we don't want/need to drive a car

[@leonardchungmusic]

I died at the shade from Doug against pickleball 😂😂😂😂😂

[@timmietz]

I had a conversation with a Porsche dealer just the other day. They offered me an allocation on a GT3. The only caveat is, I have to lease a Taycan turbo about a $60,000 value. When I asked them why, they said that they cannot move the EV inventory in any other way. Macan EV are not selling at all, they said.

[@SmartestDumbGuy]

Yeah Tesla and Rivians are the only ones that arent garbage and everyone knows it.

[@ammarisrar2005]

That is why you get a GT3 in the second hand market, no point in getting a new one, considering you need to be a top Porsche customer just to be considered for one

[@atomicsmith]

I still remember when people said the Taycan would kill the Model S. 😂😂

[@tiresomeowl]

That’s hilarious

[@aim-for-greatn3z947]

Bro... DON'T EVER BUY ANYTHING NEW especially vehicles. Obviously unless you just don't care and have money to waste! Granted they DO hold value but everyone builds their different so your configuration someone else might not like. Im a saying this because I own a high end car rental business and boy the amount of money I'm losing with these new cars are INSANE!! I'm literally considering changing my WHOLE business model now 🤣 Mind you... I actually make money with my cars, you literally have a 130k+ car sitting in your garage. And when you DO choose to go out on the weekend you'll be paranoid hoping no 9ne scratches it 😂

[@ginobozzi3954]

Been in the automotive repair industry all my life. The labor and parts cost are only going higher. The volume of labor talent won’t be around in the next decade either. Something to think about when buying these high end cars.

[@oimfc37]

The cars are getting more complex and the techs are getting dumber. Scary times ahead!

[@RP-hn1qc]

​@@oimfc37 Start blaming bean counters and engineers for purposely designing stuff for high repair costs. Relatively common repair on EVs are high voltage contactors which the part costs $65 BUT you have to drop the battery pack as a whole costing $1k to $1.5K

[@SkylineLofe]

​@@RP-hn1qc also blame 80% of the consumers who buy vehicles for their over reliance on that very tech because they're utterly shit drivers.

[@alfredonski]

My mom bought one of those fancy EV they talk about, the battery broke and they dont have the part available. She has been using my backup 99’ toyota Camry for over a month now😂

[@Joey_DiGs]

@@alfredonski which car, model, and year was the EV? Been contemplating getting one for around town use but been getting cold feet

[@paulharsh78]

Thank you for the timestamps!

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

Sure thing!

[@directsiding]

Mandatory breathalyzers and cameras? Brother, you have been living in California far too long. There is nothing wrong with insurance companies monitoring with their own devices, but to mandate breathalyzers and cameras is WILD, using your terms… tyrannical intrusion of privacy and anti-American in my terms

[@GIZZMOTORSPORTS]

New respect for Doug. Watching his vids we always pick apart the lack of knowledge on the older cars. Seeing this interview his knowledge, persona and voice are just fine, I could talk to this Doug. The car review Doug, I always tell myself it’s cringe because he’s super young. Not sure if that’s still the case, maybe it was the problem in the beginning.

[@gsgcarreviews]

That's what $30million invested by a private equity firm does

[@jerkopatrik]

Doug has stated multiple times that he purposefully doesn't get too technical in his videos so they can reach a wider audience. 32 year old Margaret looking at midsize SUVs to purchase will not care about whether the engine has two injectors per cylinder or not, but she will very much care about how easy the infotainment is to use.

[@amusingarts]

Doug just reminded me of the 20 hour drives to Denver I used to pull in College-- In a 1953 Ford pick up. L.A. to San Antonio in a Jag Vanden Plas in my old age still doable.

[@drewpickle8916]

Wow Kennan and Filippo really had a glow up

[@qx4n9e1xp]

Yeah, and they talk less £ay.

[@Dutch1982]

Middle class car prices really aren’t plummeting. Wish it could be spoken into existence.

[@timmysfittness903]

Almost every new car from almost every major car brand is being sold for under MSRP.

[@JamTheHam32]

@@timmysfittness903 Intelligent middle class people aren't buying new cars. Used car prices are still incredibly inflated and have yet to come down.

[@daniels2761]

​@@timmysfittness903the MSRP is too high to begin with

[@MrEShive]

the US NHTSA, is a big factor of cars costs increasing… like the new headlight reg…. they literally made requirements that dont even exist and wontt until 10 years of R and D… meanwhile the rest of the world has used better safe headlights since 2013

[@cbotten106]

Ave trans price is down a couple hundred buck...basically nothing.

[@briandesrocher6882]

I can listen to Doug talk for 10 hours this was excellent

[@dbrandon4528]

I was able to get out of all my car payments during the car craze. Love not having a car payment

[@ct48727]

What a great podcast. The peace and serenity, the depth and yet the simplicity.

[@InvestingWithAdamK]

New model Y is super reasonably priced especially with the 7,500 credit. Bought one a year ago and was thrilled to see the lower prices. Barely more than a used one.

[@ANHON888]

The insurance on a Tesla is criminal

[@InvestingWithAdamK]

@ If you get it directly through Tesla it’s extremely reasonable.

[@MD-pz3cn]

EV tax credits make them seem more reasonable, but if you regularly owe Uncle Sam $7500 every year, you have bigger problems. It's not tacked onto your potential refund during tax time, it just lowers your liability by up to $7500. So unless you took long/short term gains during the prior year in order to buy the car, and use the $7500 credit to indirectly reduce your capital gains tax, it's not as straight forward as one may think.

[@InvestingWithAdamK]

@ Thanks for sharing. I’m not an accountant. I just know I’ve bought 2 over 10 years and each time received $7,500. But my accountant does the taxes. Between the cars and solar we put in it was huge savings

[@TwistIsFly]

@@MD-pz3cntax accountant here. The $7500 tax credit has nothing to do with if you have a “refund” or not. The credit is based on your tax liability for the year. Said differently, if you withheld $10k for federal taxes through the year and your tax liability was $8k you would end up getting a $9,500 (with the credit) refund and instead of $2k refund (without the credit).

[@Four_Eyes]

Great episode guys, really enjoyed this one.

[@hairconditioner976]

stop watching podcasts and go build that viper and mustang

[@CasaDiVincenzo]

Ya know, it’s really great to witness that even an extremely passionate expert like Doug has matured to the level that he knows his true purpose in life and and has no qualms about sharing the absolute value of his family. That’s a sign of a very…Very…VERY successful man - and a man that has conquered the great life challenge of learning how to actually be content. With respect, ~ Nick

[@Kauffman578]

Ok, Nick

[@Blake-q4c]

its dumb how its CALLED ICED COFFEE AND NOO COFFEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@eyevincast5440]

First thing I noticed 🧋

[@whatyoudo9773]

When Doug said Pickleball is for children, he became my favorite person! Ha!

[@cbotten106]

Saying that is one thing but the reality might be different.

[@ParkDari]

I adore my 20yr old over 260k Toyota Sienna. She is such a work horse. I just maintain her well and get every repair at the dealer. Don’t come for me using the dealer for repairs. Aftermarket generic replacement parts have screwed me before, the quality is no longer there. My minivan may only be worth $500 but the body is fabulous and a used car costs more than even major repairs. I think all cars made after 2011 are 💩 anyway. I went over 250k before major repairs on major original parts. I took my old Volvo station wagon to 1M miles and I think the Sienna will go the distance 😊

[@daniels2761]

You can buy OEM parts elsewhere. But no judgement here if it works for you.

[@salarsadri]

Like clockwork. Rates go down, car prices go up. Rates go up, car prices come down.

[@MatthewC137]

On net rates fell from about 1980 until a couple years ago. That trend is over. Now they will rise for decades. However we are currently due for a countertrend pullback that could take rates lower for a year or 3.

[@gamesguy]

Not really. Car rates were extremely low in 2018 and prices were low too.

[@0my]

It still bothers me how normalized car financing has become. It shouldn't be normal to finance a car. GM should be an auto company but it's actually a financial institution. My first vehicle was $500. My second vehicle was $1200. My third vehicle was $11k. My first NEW vehicle was $45k. None were financed, and all worked good-enough.

[@JustDeej]

Rates down, fraudulent PPE loans, stimulus from covid, cars go stupid brr.

[@michi-bi]

@@gamesguy soo true, i ended up buying a corolla and rav4 before the pandemic at zero financing and at MRSP, during the lockdown Lexus was offering zero financing for a rc-f i guess i'll never get that again :(

[@shubhamc]

Most awesome guest 😎

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

Thanks!

[@Franky2shoes647]

What a well executed interview. Thoughtful questions. Well prepared. Well done!

[@nutrihealthdoc]

How could a conversation be so interesting that you could listen to it straight for over 2 hours? These guys pulled it off. Amazing, best ever.

[@Matt.Bogosian]

2024 Model Y owner here and it has been the best car I have ever owned. I am a Real Estate Agent and the range is plenty for me to show homes, hit the gym, and take my kids to practice all in one charge. And damn is it fun to drive. 🤯

[@Bigwheels161616]

lobe it for u, just want the govt to stop screwing with ICE cars. You drive your amazing EV and lemme drive my toyota RAV4

[@SmartestDumbGuy]

​@@Bigwheels161616i have a rav4 and a tesla. No government has given me any problems. What scary world are you living in?

[@lukepatten8308]

@@SmartestDumbGuy I would guess it's the same one you are turning a blind eye towards, but be assured that the gov't IS watching you

[@Mark-jb9hx]

Fascists love their Teslas.

[@danielredziniak2996]

It’s fun for 4 seconds, it’s sucks in every other aspect

[@dwsharkie]

I really enjoyed this podcast. Getting to listen to Doug and hear that he has made it in life was pretty satisfying to listen to. I don't make it through most podcasts ever, but I really enjoyed this one. I have been watching Doug since the Ferrari days.

[@michaelhintz6187]

How about a car company that is built to be fixed easily. Imagine the promotion for cost of ownership and availability of competent mechanics.

[@daniels2761]

GM pickups are probably the easiest vehicle overall to repair. But in terms of overall cost to own and not needing repaired, the Prius wins by a lot.

[@mischief.ej1]

Buy a 94 Honda civic. Shit is playing Legos 😅😂

[@MrEShive]

@@daniels2761yep, buddy had a silverado. ive owned f150 since first year 2.7 ecoboost was launched….its been very easy to maintain. got lucky. im buyin another.

[@troutunderscore3]

Wasn't expecting this one, Doug is a good collaboration

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

Thanks for watching!

[@gavinsmith3146]

As a tesla employee who makes the model Y, this episode felt like a shout-out

[@AdamWeatherall]

As a Tesla shareholder I just want to say… 👏 👏 👏

[@Oaky]

@@AdamWeatherall As an elon hater, I wanna say you only use government money to make these cars

[@jbp122]

@@Oaky at least you admit that you are biased.

[@AdamWeatherall]

@ Cringetastic !

[@TwistIsFly]

@@Oakythis is 100% the fault of Democrats as they were the ones who introduce the electric car subsidy and reinstated the subsidy once Trump left office for the trillion dollar car company. As a Tesla owner I make too much money to be receiving a $7500 tax credit.

[@SimpTote]

I like how they casually talk about cars sharing information to lower insurance premiums when cars already share your information and customers aren't getting any benefits out of it. Car companies are just making money selling our information.

[@daniels2761]

Exactly. I have no at-faults and insurance wants me to get a tracker for a lower rate. Those assholes already know, lol

[@TheSympathize]

I think it’s dumb that people view cars as an investment. It’s either a toy, tool, or both. Value is a bonus, not a requirement.

[@matth7448]

not caring about cars is really nice! I have my hyundai and it always works!

[@GioGambino]

The best interview ever felt like a total conversation love it

[@jasonkash]

One of the few podcasts I watched fully! Great episode!

[@Skyline0324]

Before you buy that Plaid you might want to get an insurance quote. In fact before you buy ANY new car you might want to check out the insurance cost. 😬

[@tuomasholo]

My jaw dropped when I asked how much to insure a Rivian R1T

[@phgamer4393]

alreadying pay a shit ton with a chevy cruze and honda pilot. cant get that much worse lol

[@Skyline0324]

@ It’s really obscene. More technology more cost.

[@joshb.1118]

Good advice. Also, if you get a Tesla, get a quote from Tesla insurance. It was 60% the cost of other insurance when I called around.

[@travellingslim]

@@joshb.1118 Unfortunately Tesla Insurance is only in a few states, and you're monitored immensely more than traditional insurance

[@RynoFishing]

June 2020, I managed to get a 2018 Honda CRV with 16,000 miles on it and out the door for $22,400. I still have it and I love it. It never seen a shop yet and still runs great and now it has 122,000 miles on it. It also does everything I want it to do. It’s about buying at the right time, do your research, and learning exactly what you want in a car and what you are going to use it for. That’s how to make a happy purchase of a vehicle. After that be satisfied with your vehicle and use it until the wheels fall off!

[@andrewhurstcars]

Great interview Doug. Nice to have extra garage space, but odd to pick an office without natural light.

[@Chaddington98]

Two of my favorite KZbinrs!

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

Woohoo!

[@mattr8904]

DOUG IS THE TYPE OF GUY TO GO ON THE ICED COFFEE HOUR PODCAST & NOT DRINK COFFEE

[@jerkychew899]

To correct a few things Doug said at around the 17:00 mark - For a manufacturer to switch from ICE to EV requires a massive sea change of how things are done. It costs billions of dollars, and without government incentives, no mainstream car company would take those risks. Government intervention is required at the beginning of such a large undertaking to ensure that it will actually take off. It's just like early investors putting money into a new company, but because the companies in question are so massive, government intervention is all but a must. Letting capitalism sort it out isn't an option until we pass the tipping point. Doug ends up making this point moments later - He says something like "making EVs isn't that expensive" because China is making such cheap EVs. The only reason China's EVS are so cheap is because they have major backing from the Chinese government.

[@adamsearle7217]

Such a good episode, love it when my fave KZbinrs cross over! Great car chat, but also just great life chat

[@markspence3750]

Jay Leno said on one of his shows, that he doesn't hand over keys to a Valet Driver. No way. 20 million car? Yep. No way.

[@MatthewC137]

Jay doesn't let valet drive ANY car no matter how cheap it might be. He is wise.

[@Shoutinthewind]

16:11 “I would let capitalism sort it out”👍👍

[@mrcrackerjacks5788]

Facts I don’t why he said that was an unpopular opinion

[@brent7325]

All the whining about incentive uncertainty was a turn off, but he eventually got the right answer.

[@simarjitsingh9917]

Government should stop oil subsidies too then if we wanna let capitalism sort it out

[@fsteddy6576]

I was just going to quote that too. Glad to see people are starting to pay attention to this BS.

[@ryanbon2414]

@@mrcrackerjacks5788speaking about capitalism in a positive or even neutral light is considered an alt right talking about these days. That’s why he prefaced his opinion with caution

[@woodrowbunopaddle]

Stradman bothers the $hit out of me for one main reason. Tone and volume of voice.How does that not bother almost everyone

[@nhibbs3]

Stradman I like nails on chalkboard personified. Like I just can’t even look at him much less listen to him. I have no clue how he has so many views…

[@JGL98]

He only does that infront of the camera I’ve seen some people say he’s totally different off camera.

[@woodrowbunopaddle]

@@JGL98 Thanks. While I hope he is "normal" off camera ,it's just strange to me. While I'm not in his age demographic ,I wouldn't have tolerated him when I was. Oh well ,he doesn't need me.

[@vetteb96c]

I agree. Can’t watch him.

[@vitovitale169]

My 2016 9 year old Honda CRZ has a factory installed camera on the right side mirror that switches on when you use the right side turn signal. So apparently Doug who "drives all the cars" as he claims is not aware Honda offered this feature from 2016.

[@andyn4797]

Great relaxed chat between these gentlemen. I watched the entire video over 2 hours and I really enjoyed . The young guys interviewing are very polite and professional, and Doug as usual such a nice down to earth man! ❤

[@K.D.R_]

Doug is the type of guy.... that.... does... something, idk.

[@Nb61777]

51:33 sounds like these ideas are beginning to impede on people’s freedoms and privacy. I’m always going to be watched in my car? Jesus, sounds like anxiety.

[@anthonyfiorella1]

Really pisses me off that they have slower speed limits near schools. They shouldnt set speed limits. This is the country of freedom 😡

[@TheSH1N1GAM1]

@@anthonyfiorella1And you trust them when they say they’ll only get you when you’re speeding in a school zone? Do 100 on an empty highway and suddenly the police are at your door or the dealer locks out your car? That’s really a world you want to live in?

[@anthonyfiorella1]

@TheSH1N1GAM1 smh that is awful. Couldn't they do more important things like make sure people drive safely. Thats up to the person driving the car. If they want to drive 130 mph and possibly hit somone thats on them. They will show up to your house especially with us needing to have license plates and driver licenses. They have done that to me when I don't make payments on my car. Next, you're going to tell me they'll ban porn and books. It's my car, I have the right to do what I want with it. Just like my body. I don't want them limiting my speed around schools. If I want to drive fast and risk hitting children that's on me and anyone else driving.

[@Nb61777]

@@anthonyfiorella1the slower speeds around schools is because children are not adults yet. Their brains are not up to speed with adult decisions, they need the handicap and as the driver of the car, you can be competent enough to slow down in the school zone. The speed limit is not for you, it’s for the kids. I agree on everything else though.

[@anthonyfiorella1]

@Nb61777 so it doesn't impede on people's freedom if they set specific speed limits around schools? Now I'm confused. You seemed to be very against them not allowing you to speed in a school zone. Are you saying having city speed limits set to 30 are because all the adults walking around in the city need the handicap?

[@TailHappyTV]

Yesss, looking forward to this one

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

Thanks!!

[@ChristianPlaysVG]

Doug is so knowledgeable about cars, it’s awesome listening to these videos

[@Neophobic]

The issue with the new EV market is that manufacturers are pricing them based on the government incentive. They are inflating prices to scoop up the extra $7500, rather than pricing the cars for what they are and letting the consumer actually benefit from the rebate.

[@kingkong_style]

Realized I'm not the audience for this when the host said "what about nuclear powered cars" lmao

[@Armour783]

Uggg, the discussion between the hosts and Doug around the 2:12:53 mark regarding creating more businesses is so cringeworthy. It's clear that Graham and Jack are the exact type of people Doug hates. They don't care about creating businesses for any other reason except making money. How much money? MORE! That is literally the only reason. It's clear that Doug is completely happy with where he is in life as far as wealth. And neither one of them can wrap their heads around not wanting more, more, more. They are cut from the same cloth as Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, etc. They simply cannot relate to ANY average person that can get to a point in life where they're just happy with what they have. Always needs to be more.

[@njpme]

It's not that serious.

[@ekeyte]

I think they’re just enterprising young guys who get excited about making money. Nothing wrong with that. Doug did it. He just doesn’t want to rinse/repeat. But I sense he respects them for seeking avenues to earn, and was happy to banter with them about their ideas.

[@bellaluna837]

Doug won at life, he has a loving family, profitable business and creates content that is fulfilling for him. To get more money would mean giving up time spent on family and or his hobbies, and for what a bigger house, more cars, more assets for his portfolio?

[@ballinonabudget1130]

I can’t tell prices are falling. I sold a Lamborghini yesterday and it went for $50k more than predicted on BaT

[@RedLeo-pf9yo]

There are no car prices falling.

[@eag8999]

@@RedLeo-pf9yolol you're laughably wrong

[@joelpierce3940]

My 09 Silverado crew cab was 30K out the door, TTL, and still running well. Son has it now. More reliable than new junk.

[@C23-o4o]

Doug’s content is so good. Straight and to the point.

[@stijn2644]

19:45 There is a very interesting Ford concept from the 50s that had a nuclear reactor on board. The Ford Nucleon was a concept car that was only build on a small scale and never actually fitted with a working reactor. It would have used a molten salt reactor at the back that would have never had to be refueled. I think there are better ways of powering a car with nuclear energy, In france a lot of cars are already running on nuclear power. 70% of their electricity grid is nuclear powered, so many EV's there are atomic cars haha.

[@F3udF1st]

Yeah that was the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

[@triaxe-mmb]

18:06 the Chinese EVs are so cheap cause of literally a few 100B in direct financing and subsidies - and restrictions on foreign competitors bringing their products in without a domestic partner... We arent eilligm to subsidize to that extent...if we did we could have it that "cheap" too

[@mikeydude750]

SUVs winning is truly miserable

[@robnanneman]

Curious, why?

[@mikeydude750]

@@robnanneman they're large, heavy, make visibility worse for everyone else on the road, and cost way more than they need to

[@robnanneman]

@ I’m glad they’re large so I can use one vehicle to transport my family. Cheaper that way. Otherwise, I’d be spending more to use multiple vehicles. I tend to make my decisions based on what my needs are, not other people’s needs. What do you say to buses, tractor-trailers, fire and garbage trucks? They are large, make visibility worse for everyone else on the road and also cost way more than they need to. You sound like a government that is trying to shove one view down our throats instead of letting people decide for what themselves is good.

[@mikeydude750]

@@robnanneman The government forced SUVs on us because they made the CAFE regulations overly punishing to small cars while letting heavier cars off the hook. That's why no domestic companies make cars anymore, and why every automaker is abandoning the small compact segment.

[@MorningNapalm]

This is the best Doug video I have ever seen. I am not normally such a huge fan, but in this video, he is awesome.

[@adjusted-bunny]

I use very often an electronic vehicle. It is self-driving and it has several huge windows. I can read, sleep or eat. No traffic jams so I arrive almost always in time. It's called a train.

[@sgpasian]

Cmon guys, advocating for 1984 in the automotive world?! As if gov was not trying hard enough already. People are already crazy money for a manual , high rev, with no multimedia, no tracking, no camera, no aid… restomods. Bring back pure driving!

[@chriswienandt736]

Amazing podcast just finished watching while walking my cat thanks for posting

[@treehouse8501]

lol what?

[@trevorm9551]

Classic

[@MrMustangrick]

Walking your cat ???

[@yousmoketrim135i]

I have a convertible and can confirm enthusiasts always hate the convertible 😂

[@TheIcedCoffeeHour]

Why?!

[@yousmoketrim135i]

@TheIcedCoffeeHour lack of rigidity and/or convertible top problems.

[@yousmoketrim135i]

@TheIcedCoffeeHour they hate it till they get a ride in it on a nice day.

[@Have.An.AmicoDay]

I've got a crappy Geo Metro convertible... and on the good days with the top down you can almost overlook that it can't do 55 up a hill....

[@Iamwatchinit]

Also they are bad in winter and bad in summer. You can really enjoy them just in moderate temperatures

[@bcvijasiu]

Great advice about going all out in your early 20s and having the time to enjoy the family life now! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@antoniorios3856]

Car makers need to include these features standard. Intergrated sunshade Dash cam Phone mount or slot for intergrating with radio Blind spot camera Digital review camera

[@eduardblackbeard3913]

I hope the reason Ferraris are dropping in image is because everyone is sick of their shit. The company and their policies are a bunch of pretentious douchebags. You can't modify your ferrari even visually. Even in video games, they limit you from changing the car or have no damage because of their bs.

[@RedLeo-pf9yo]

Yeah, even Jay Leno said he would never own a Ferrari because of all their pretentious rules. I don’t know how you could tell somebody to do with their car, that they own.

[@hardlife507]

That and the smaller engines with turbos

[@Duckswag87]

I’ve been wrapped up in CFB and haven’t watched Doug recently. Digging the beard Doug, now you really can knock out an engine swap over the weekend with a couple cold ones

[@paulthomas5860]

Yea, but I miss the authentic nerdiness of the shaven “no-style-do-I-have look”.

[@HDHQDIRECT]

These streamers have forgotten or never knew what work looks like to obtain money. Their lavish incomes for running their mouths and spewing their opinions are not realities for the people who actually provide the very things they discuss. A 33K car is not cheap. I bought a new car for that price in 2020. For most people a cheap car is under 5K and used. I remember when Doug Demuro was so wet behind the ears that he was fascinated by a quirck called an ashtray and lighter in a car.

[@johnbarron4843]

The added photos and videos are great!

[@CoconutExprez]

Wow amazing interview. I have been following Doug since the beginning of his KZbin career and I love the insight into his life. The questions where very well executed 👍🏽

[@PortfolioAutomotive]

That intro edit 🔥🔥🔥

[@kokuz0512]

For those of you that weren’t paying attention , Doug the Muro said five times that electric cars are more reliable. Tesla model S here seven years old, 150 thousand miles. The only thing I did was change tires and one handle in seven years. and he knows cars.

[@daniels2761]

He specifically gave the caveat that they should be, but in many cases aren't and have worse quality.

[@MrEShive]

be pretty awesome if you can replace batteries, thats the only thing that deprecates on EVs

[@MrEShive]

its only going to get cheaper and now 3rd parties can do battery replacements too

[@dillonJwilson]

We still don't care. EVs are dirt, I drive a rivian for work in NYC. When the Temp dropbs to 32 and below the battery dies significantly quicker, also the car has a mind of its own at times, like it knows what is best for me. Hell no

[@kokuz0512]

@ who is we. You mean you. Tesla model y was the best selling car in the WORLD in 2023 and almost took it again in 2024. So they don’t need your approval

[@mjrtensepian1727]

As an ICE enthusiast, I just don't see much technological headroom; the rate at which EV tech is/will improve will likely spell the end of petrol at some point...

[@joshb.1118]

The good news is that we are at the Model T stage of electric vehicles. The enthusiast EVs will come.

[@CoasterGaming]

EPA has made it hard for them to improve ICE motors.

[@mjrtensepian1727]

@@CoasterGaming Not really; lowering emissions standards wouldn't net any mechanical efficiency. The horsepower game has played out; the average car doesn't need to be a Hellcat or Veyron, it needs to achieve more work with lower energy expenditure. The advantage of hydrocarbons is energy density, but the inefficiency of ICE nullifies that. As batteries get lighter, faster charging, motors small/lighter/more powerful, EVs will win out.

[@danielredziniak2996]

@@joshb.1118no model t stage was decades ago

[@joshb.1118]

​@@danielredziniak2996Which decade would that be? The model T of EVs is and always has been the Model 3, released in 2018. Everything before that was low volume or prototypes.

[@nmracer4632]

Loved my Model S, but with insurance that cost 3x that of an ICE car and having to buy tires every 10-12 months, cost of ownership was marginally ($300/year) cheaper to operate.

[@Thumper68]

Until 8 years and you need 20k battery pack

[@nmracer4632]

@@Thumper68 It was a 2015. 9 years old and a very strong battery, but yes, a new battery would essentially total the car.

[@ElMistroFeroz]

The only way you bought tires that often was by abusing the car.

[@nmracer4632]

@ didn’t abuse it, but I sure enjoyed driving it and using that instant torque. Mike most Tesla drivers that I have seen do.

[@livingon2wheels]

This is my favorite Iced Coffee Hour episode, Love the guys, love Doug, love cars. This was so much fun to watch. Thanks, guys!

[@Flavortown_69]

I just picked up a white/black 2020 Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD with 20” turbine wheels, performance boost, and 34K miles from Tesla’s used inventory for $27.2K +500 delivery before tax. This is a perfect time to buy, especially with cash, as high interest rates suppress prices.

[@E-RayC8Nate]

47:28 my last 2 C8 corvettes have had a PDR (performance data recorder) & dash cam. Even the C7s had the available option.

[@dariusx4829]

To the contrary, I LOVE that drive from San Diego to Vegas. The desert landscape is absolutely glorious.

[@M4ttM4n20]

That stretch of 93/95 is the best! Let it rip!

[@getdealtwithquick]

Minus the stretch North of Temecula to Victorville... ☠️

[@freshtendrills5969]

51:00 Easy guys. This is America. Not china. This is why I dont like EVs and heavy tech in cars. Thats a slippery slope...

[@Jimmyfitzable]

These nerds want to be slaves

[@chadriddle3517]

This was extremely entertaining! Great pod cast

[@KevinStull]

One of the best interviews with @DougDeMuro I’ve ever seen! Well done!

[@DarkClosetOfTheMind]

This may have been the most informative and interesting car video I've seen in months. Nicely done 👍

[@bboysfanatic]

This was like Doug being asked questions from 10 year olds that know nothing about cars😂