Ben Teams Up With HIMSELF to Save a Baby Alien X

[@TheInkTank]

Kuro plays Ben 10 Alien Force: The Video Game: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIOtfYiEmZ57lbc

[@kingshadow8782]

Okay

[@christianparrish3292]

@TheGlassesPro I don't know

[@Jacobflamecaster]

What time is that in SA time

[@crownedshyness9656]

I feel like Kuro should shave his head so that he’s done every hairstyle.

[@ayushmanchatterjee8721]

Hey you guys heard rumours about a potential new ben ten series in the making which will be on the main timeline? Duncan has been teasing it since last year and many youtubers have been making video on that topic........and accoding to me ben ten storyline wasnt complete yet when omniverse ended.......it even appeared on the list of upcoming projects list of Cn max studios and wikipedia tooo.......... Kuro can you confirm it? And is cartoon network shutting down? Cuz there are rumours about that too .......if its true i am seriously gonna cry

[@jasondermack7485]

“I’m not evil, I’m nuanced” has to be a top tier Kevin quote

[@donathan2933]

When did Kevin say that?

[@jasondermack7485]

He says it after Gwen says that young Ben still thinks he’s evil, to which Kevin says the above quote

[@Crowgioh]

I thought he said "I am not evil, I am new honest

[@yourmum7662]

And "little juvenile delinquent' love kevin in this episode especially the astrophysics joke

[@diloncoonghe7775]

@@Crowgioh That doesn’t even make sense

[@crystalmoon101]

I know why they call it the Ultimate Kevin form, since it's during the ultimate alien arc, but I always thought it would have been more interesting that instead of becoming the basic alien force aliens, he instead became a fusion of the ultimate aliens that Ben has. With power like that you could have had quite the fight, and explain why that is enough for Kevin to beat Aggregor. Butttttt, you could also use that as a way to explain Kevin's 180 change in personality, as ultimate aliens are created by putting the DNA thourgh a simulation of a "worst-case scenario" for about a million years or so. That would provide instincts that make the aliens more aggressive or dangerous, and Kevin being a pile of them could cause a nasty side affect to be much more negative in his personality.

[@joshfarmer8408]

I agree, I would of loved it if he had a few ultimate alian parts like the wreaking ball tail of U humungasaur, the wooden like arm of U swamp fire, or even the red fire wings of U big chill. Also I know he dosent have any alian x because of the lock out program, it would of been so cool if he had some stary patterns somewhere on his body

[@dalordofgaming8705]

Damn thats a fuckin great idea

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

The current roster before this episode is like Humungasaur Big chill Swamp fire Cannonbolt Spider monkey So a fusion of those 5 would be interesting though probably needs a few more aliens to really look like a mutation Edit:just remembered Echo Echo, so that’s a decent amount but still add a few more in there like some andromeda aliens and the new Alien Force Season 3 in there. Andromeda could come in after absorbing aggregor going on top of some bare portions of the particular design

[@allforone3427]

That would have been way better.

[@diamond_dude1063]

he only has ult.spidermonkey's feature amongst all the other ultimate aliens.

[@artist-gj]

I love Kuro's side tangents so much, just like 5 minutes if him editing a small clip that I'm sure took way too long in real time to do. This sorta thing is why I love these

[@DiscountYT]

plus the edits come out fantastic, it’s like bonus content lol

[@matthewpopow6647]

Its one of my favorite bits of Kuro's vids

[@felixowen2693]

Really shows how much effort he puts into these reviews and helps justify his animation critiques.

[@imapotatoyay]

absolutely agree, i love how his videos flow like this

[@jamesrobson8308]

Same

[@chancewrightva]

I love how Stinkfly and Wild Mutt were the only Aliens to keep their original voices from classic to Omniverse. Since Dee has been in every incarnation of the show.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

indeed

[@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286]

@Paulo SM Ultimate wildmutt does

[@heheh9945]

@@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286we don’t talk about that

[@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286]

@@heheh9945 I do, it's cool

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

(Around 34:10) I always assumed that bubble the "Mother" was holding the baby in is some sort mini pocket dimension barrier that would keep the baby from altering the main reality until it was grown enough for it's multiple minds to be formed as it's counsel.

[@tezsinha6405]

Now this is my headcannon

[@d_xbombk]

This episode shows how young Ben isn’t just an immature brat (kinda is) but he knows when it’s time to be the Hero.

[@monkiking778]

Facts

[@user-ye9bc7nw2c]

@Blitz 75 lol

[@user-ye9bc7nw2c]

@Blitz 75 same

[@dallama2616]

@Blitz 75 I think having a big butt was considered an insult at the time

[@brawmankerlexterminateurde860]

Well the OS did had moments of him follow the Light that his grandpa given him

[@megasoniczx6960]

"Looks like they teleported back to Alien Force" "He's so authentic they even included the wrong button error" Kuro has some witty one liners in this one

[@kingmin9491]

Also don't forget about : "They got out with the power of the necessity to get to the next scene "

[@Aphelia.]

the reason I am unhealthly addicted to these breakdowns

[@codenate02]

Interesting thing I noticed. Paradox specifically says he "Arranged for life support". The phrasing implies that HE didn't alter their bodies to survive in the forge, he just knew a guy who could? Just plays further into the cosmic workings that Paradox is clearly involved with that Ben and Co never witness.

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

I like to imagine he's kind of a showman. He likes to make it appear like he can do what is more or less magic, just for the fun of it, but really he's just arranged for all of it beforehand. A genius can do a lot with infinite prep time, after all.

[@mickys8065]

@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 Paradox knows from experience that the barrier will make itself seen at exactly x time, so he teleports the gang there before that happens with enough time to time it perfectly with his gesture. He'd even be able to practise it infinitely since we've seen before that he exists across multiple timelines.

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

@@mickys8065 Precisely

[@meatlynotthatmeatly7702]

@@mickys8065 so is there a bunch of timelines where the crew immidiatly explodes cause they still need oxygen because paradox wanted to be fancy?

[@mickys8065]

@@meatlynotthatmeatly7702 yes, exactly.

[@accidentalmadness1708]

28:40 Paradox knew Ben was gonna lean against the barrier so he probably gave young Ben the same magic bs he gave the others. I kind of wish rath had been in this episode. A “let me tell you something aggregor” would be great.

[@KumiChan2004]

Or while on the ship. "Let me tell you something young me. Stop eating the ship that Kevin made."

[@arkhamtony4469]

It would be really funny , especially that both of them are played by John DiMaggio

[@jagnestormskull3178]

Let me tell you something Aggregor, Rath doesn't approve of eating babies!

[@Gazpacho834]

I would love Rath to appear but Ben probably thought Rath would potentially upset the Celestialsapien

[@nateds7326]

​@@jagnestormskull3178absorbing. Babies. Is not. COOOOL.

[@Pryderi_]

Every time you do one of those ‘kEvIN?!” edits it cracks me up

[@CyberKirby]

I feel like the reason why the baby Celestialsapien is in a sphere is to prevent the chaos caused by it not having personalities like that.

[@kumargaurav9212]

Exactly my thought.

[@colossaldonut5190]

The theory that Paradox stole the DNA sample to give to Azmuth is genius and makes a lot of sense. It was due to Ben's access to Alien X that thwarted Maltruant at the genesis of the universe after all and I'd say it's reasonable to assume Paradox was capable of knowing this, which is why he would do something like that. Man I love Paradox so much as a character.

[@professorparadox795]

Dwayne said Celestialsapiens only born in forge of creation, some of them Live in galaxy.

[@rileyackison4495]

It makes so much sense that I didn’t realize it was a fan theory.

[@johnnygyro2295]

This is the first time I've heard this theory, but I'm all for it.

[@RadiantClaire]

“Young ben didn’t get the immunity to the chrono randomization barrier” Well considering paradox knew exactly what Ben was gonna do I don’t doubt he already gave young Ben the barrier protection. Since “I know you won’t listen”

[@johntheanimator4317]

I swear I'm unhealthily addicted to these breakdowns

[@Jeezthatbitchsexy]

can u tell me the number of the episode

[@kalebhudson417]

@@Jeezthatbitchsexy im pretty sure its "the forge of creation" or "map of infinity" not sure

[@yaminogame]

At 31:21 That line does make sense for Ben. It Mirrors Spider-Man’s mindset when he fights. It is the reason he cracks jokes in his fights all the time. Not only is it used as a distraction tactic but it helps him keep calm in crazy situations. It is a coping mechanism to help him deal with the hardships that come with being a superhero. The only time he does not do that is when he is taking the fight 100% seriously and needs to intently focus. I am glad they dive a bit into young Bens mindset.

[@sussy3778]

Gotta say, Ultimate Swampfire was literally the worst choice Ben could've picked, Greg is part NRG which is literally an alien made out of radiation that wears a fireproof suit, almost all other Ultimate would've been a better pick, like Ultimate Echo Echo since I don't think Greg has any sound resistance.

[@luckyfrog3575]

Even then, they did Ultimate Swampfire dirty in this fight.

[@---oq5kb]

Goes to show that he learned what to do against ultimate Kevin.

[@Jackgalaga]

idk man, grey matter or nanomech seem worse picks

[@sussy3778]

@@Jackgalaga Yeah, but is because they are not battle aliens. U.Swampfire is a battle alien that can barely do something against Ultimate Aggregor.

[@Jackgalaga]

@@sussy3778 no shit sherlock

[@prismstar438]

Kuro literally spends 5 minutes on the breakdown to flex his editing skills. Absolute Chad.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

GIGACHAD.

[@s.p1165]

MEGAGIGAULTRACHAD.

[@PrincessTwilightdash]

Keyframes be damn

[@yamato9753]

*Ultimate* Chad

[@kaelenfromdubai-vlogs1075]

Omega Chad

[@narindraramdial8318]

20:27 For Heatblast's rocks, I have a headcanon that a Pyronite's rocks get darker as they age until they become something similar to charcoal or obsidian

[@Schelbig]

That makes more since

[@endrendstudios7665]

@@Schelbig Since when

[@alwaysawesome216]

@@endrendstudios7665 i think he meant to say “sense”

[@rehanakhund2578]

In omniverse tho classic heatblast DOES have the dark rocks so eh

[@Nrg799]

I know am a year late but OG ben 10000 heatblast was the same colour as young ben

[@mastergreeen1385]

37:15 you know, if we really sit back and think about it for a moment, in this scene Greg is pretty rightfully justified at being pissed at Ben here; just think about it for a second: if you spent all this effort, time, resources, energy, possibly even your own moral conscience into this one big endeavor which has allowed you do the impossible, that is, getting to the Forge of Creation, and then you find this other dude just chilling out there as if it was nothing........ well, it would crrtainly leave you in a pretty uppity state

[@RotaAbyssian]

One reason I agree that this should've been a two parter is literally the ending fight. For something that is meant to be the payoff to a critically important arc, the ending fight feels not only rushed, but also damaging to Ben's competence as a fighter. I like the resolution of Kevin absorbing Greg's power, but no significant damage had been done until Ultimate Kevin rears his head. Here's how I think it should have gone down: The brawl starts, and Kevin tanks a massive hit early on, knocking him out for the fight. Classic Ben, Current Ben, and Gwen then pick up the slack, but it's really a brawl between Greg and the Bens with some magic support. The Bens go ALL OUT with Greg, pushing well beyond their limits and keeping pace with him as best as they can, pulling every stop they have. Greg is outpacing them, but they are just being as annoying and persistent as possible to keep wearing him down no matter what he does. Even if we don't go to the lengths of Current Ben using the andromeda 5 transformations, he and Classic are doing everything they can to not give an inch, and they are succeeding at stalling him. Greg finally has enough, and dips even more into his stamina to unleash a blast to hit both Bens, as they unleash their own at him, and all attacks hit their intended targets, knocking down all parties. The Bens get knocked down HARD while Kevin finds his wind, and rushes to Classic's side, where we have their exchange. Towards the end of the exchange, Kevin is watching Greg stand back up. Not as if nothing happened, but faster than anyone would like. Kevin makes his same choice, lands his blows on Greg, and the ending plays out as normal. I feel like this kind of fight would better honor the Bens' effort, and show that while they didn't WIN, their efforts were not in vain, and it was through their effort that Kevin was able to finish the job. I mean, respect to McDuffie, but I find it a hard sell that no amount of Ben 10s could beat Greg, but one Ultimate Kevin could easy clap him.

[@RenSenpai7]

Ya know. I really liked this ep. Got a taste of old school Ben plus an old problem in the form of the new Kevin. It was interesting seeing a younger Ben interacting with older versions of Gwen and Kevin as well. But when it came to Ben and.. Ben interacting.. It really does give you an insight to who Ben truly is and what goes unsaid. The moment young Ben explains why he acts like everything is a joke is beautifully written and voice acted. Loved it. Alright.. Nuff rambling.. Hero Time!

[@ameliawilson423]

Well Said Chigo, Well Said👍🤘😊! What's your opinion on Gwen & Kevin's Romance❤?

[@RenSenpai7]

@@ameliawilson423 I gotta tell ya, it's solid for what it is. They have bumps in their relationship especially when it comes to Kevin not realizing something important. But when he does, he makes it right in the end most of the time. If anything, seeing how they've grown close is evident this ep when it comes to young Ben. Gwen speaks highly of Kevin. But this isn't even the first time either. Several times she defends him if anyone ever questioned him or his loyalty. But later on.. she goes as far as doing everything she can to defend his life when Ben thinks there's only one way to stop his rampage. It's fantastic if ya ask me! Side note, hope you're doing well : )

[@ameliawilson423]

Aww! Thanks, I'm quite well thank you😊🤘! Yes, the Gwevin Romance helped me realise & accept myself as Pansexual and Proud🤘🌈🌈🤘👍😊! In the Alien Force episode "Undercover" I 100% agree with Kevin, who wouldn't have a crush on Gwen 😍🤘!! I do love the sexy Bad Boy Goth vibes Kevin puts out when in public, but I Adore it when it's just him & Gwen & he can let his guard down a little. Like in "Darkstar Rising" in Kevin's Garage, before the Highbreed showed up! Though my favourite scenes have to be Gwen's Anodite Form in "War Of The Worlds PT.2" & the Victory Kiss in "The Final Battle PT.2" Though I Love ALL the Gwevin Moments😍🤘👍😊 !! Which are you're favourite Gwevin Moments😊? Oh, Ben 10: Alien Swarm does count! Nathan Keyes(Kevin Levin) & Galadriel Stineman (Gwen Tennyson)😍💋😍🤘! Waiter, I'll have them to go please! Yummy😍💋🤘!! 😂LOL!!

[@Joaquin-xq5wo]

28:48 the way koro says "KINDA" is funny

[@codenate02]

I like the idea of Paradox stealing the celestialsapien DNA, but my preferred headcanon is that Belacus and Serena put themselves in the Omnitrix database. Intentionally giving the holder of the Omnitrix the power to turn into Alien X to supply the "Voice of Reason" that would break their eternal Stalemate.

[@prodigy1636]

But wouldn't that theory kinda make every other Celestialsapien do nothing since the two personalities, every other one shares, constantly clash and not agree? My own headcanon is similar, in that Alien X itself was created long ago (considering Beliicus's line about dinosaurs). But incorporating the other theory, I believe Paradox was tasked with getting Celestialsapien DNA and, looking into the future at his two companions, decided to take the DNA of that Celestialsapien. But that would also leave the question of; does Ben turn into that Celestialsapien that he calls Alien X? Where does that Alien X go when he's not used? Just how old is Alien X? And how are other Celestialsapien personalities able to come to decisions? God I love Alien X so much

[@shaykhmhssi3246]

Yeah I'd imagine that it's similiar to how Zs'Skayr's mind can exist within the ectonourite DNA but Ben's mind can also control the transformation. The main difference is celestialsapiens are already housing multiple personalities and are able to incorporate the existing debate system.

[@shaykhmhssi3246]

​@@prodigy1636 We know that some celestialsapiens are more decisive then others, since Serena refers to the galactic gladiator as being the "most decisive celestialsapien" they've seen

[@marcusevonblade2804]

Y’all are missing one thing, Alien X is missing the third personality. Could be paradox did something with it like say using its power to move the celestial outside the universe

[@shaykhmhssi3246]

@@marcusevonblade2804 I’m pretty sure celestialsapiens have only two personalities naturally. Starbeard has two voices when he speaks and Ben refers to the galactic gladiator as having “two voices” before attempting to attack him

[@Space_Gojira]

34:10 Kuro really had me thinking that Mandela Effects were caused by baby Celestialsapians, which is why when people recount an event or object that they remember being something else, it ends up being different.

[@AHM1Gaming]

17:02 Gave me a laugh - “So authentic, they even included the wrong button error.” 😂

[@Jayquinator-X]

34:28. Maybe that’s what the black sphere surrounding the Baby X is doing. Stopping it from randomly changing things.

[@jasondermack7485]

It’s the fact that Aggregor doesn’t appear in the entire franchise again besides the dream in Night of the Living Nightmare that really kills it for me. They barely mention his name ever except for one or two times in future episodes. I wish they brought him back in Omniverse in some capacity which I know the crew were on the fence about whether they should do that or not

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

yeah it would've been cool to see him once more.

[@misterdewott8766]

Greg served his purpose in making Kevin evil again lol. So he was disposed and thrown into the aether haha

[@talphazero1036]

It's kinda the same thing with the Hybreed. Like, an entire species goes on a universe-wide genocide, and they're not only never brought up again, but get zero inter-planetary/inter-species hate? Like, for example, Vilgax can conquer planets, but he always has 'legal' documentation and clearance to do so. I'm not sure the same would apply to wanting to cleanse the universe of every species that isn't yours. Why didn't we at least get a court episode of the Hybreeds being on trial? This probably doesn't apply to Aggregor all that much, since he's basically just some madman that wanted to kidnap a kid in a place outside their universe. Paradox seems to have some links with the Celestialsapians, so that covers that, and most of the universe wasn't exactly affected by his actions. But seeing him again would've been nice.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

@@talphazero1036 agreed

[@evj4082]

While I do wish he would've shown up again, it does make him unique in the fact that he isn't vengeful about his defeat, he just accepted the fact that his plan failed and moved on. This sets him apart from literally every other villain in Ben 10 (except the Highbreed) who has to get revenge on Ben and the team every time they're defeated.

[@colossaldonut5190]

Alien X's use here, while disappointing in its actual application, I think was really well executed in terms of the build-up to it. It's kind of a shame he's so rarely used but that just makes the times that he does appear feel so great. Not that Alien X doesn't deserve it, because it's by far Ben's most powerful alien so of course it needs rare but impactful usage.

[@StareachValcin]

I was surprised that this video didn't bring up how the mother Celestialsapien was debating about what to about those who were fighting on her hands that whole time, or how Ultimate Aggregor was trying to absorb Ultimate Kevin's energy from his energy attacks the entire time, but was unable to due to inexperience with absorbing energy.

[@spectraphantom5870]

I’m also surprised how he didn’t bring up that even though Celestialsapien’s are born in the Forge Of Creation, they sometimes leave to live in the Milky Way Galaxy In fact that’s how Azmuth got the DNA sample

[@StareachValcin]

@@spectraphantom5870 fair points. I honestly like the theory that Paradox played a role in Azmuth getting Celestialsapien DNA.

[@forrestcarvalho4458]

when was the celestialsapien stuff brought up?

[@StareachValcin]

@@forrestcarvalho4458 not in the series proper, but those working on the series did explain what the mother Celestialsapien was up to the entire time.

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

Its my theory that the "next universe over" is either Generatator Rex's universe or the Reboot universe as Paradox says the physics are different. The Celestialsapien in Alien X- tinction being different then these versions and talks about dimensions instead of timelines can be explained by this. Also Generator Rex has a complex origin of their universe and Paradox could be hinting at that.

[@axelnilsson5124]

Kuro did come with the conclusion that the reboot exists in its own multiverse because Paradox wasn’t around and the nerfing of alien x

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

@@axelnilsson5124 ik

[@LiMe251]

Dimensions in the classic Continuity are things like 3D and 2D, not worlds (another separator between Classic Continuity and Reboot Continuity.

[@SecretMagician]

I kinda don't think so, I'm pretty sure the reboot is in the Ben 10 multiverse like Ben 23, Gwen 10, Mad Ben, etc. And like in each universe, it has its own set of physics to work. The universe we see Paradox showing the trio is the entire Ben 10 multiverse condensed into one area, and it's just explained like that for simplicity. It would make sense if it's the Generator Rex universe, though or other CN multiverses like Scooby-Doo, Steven Universe, Adventure Time, etc, like how Marvel and DC have their own multiverses and universes inside (the times DC characters have crossed over with CN/Warner Brothers media like Scooby-Doo or in Multiversus) but have crossed over sometimes.

[@dracodracarys2339]

"where do baby alien x's come from?" "you see, ben, when two constellations love each other very much"

[@thisischris999]

Seeing classic Ben was such a big shock. Easily made it the most memorable episode of UA

[@christianparrish3292]

Agreed

[@anotherjason]

24:44 this was the ONE joke i've been dying to see how YOU'D react to or make edits/poke fun at. and i think it's self explanatory.

[@Jaymane217]

10:03 I think the reason that Paradox is banned from approaching Celestial-sapiens is that the only weakness that they have is literal paradoxes. They can defy physics, or manipulate them in anyway they see fit, but they still follow some semblance of rules. Paradox can literally do anything, but he chooses to follow the rules. There’s a treaty against him, he chooses to follow it, but he can also break whenever he wants.

[@Narsengan]

I absolutely loved the inclusion of the keys. Shows they’ve been “productively” figuring out the ultimatrix rather than hacking it for master control. 5:35

[@filipvadas7602]

1. Multiversal Willy Wonka is now my official nickname for Paradox. His Omniverse design just supports that. 2. This is one of those points in the franchise where you can tell the writers actually planned a lot of things out, even if there are minor misssteps here and there. 3. Excited as hell for the Ultimate Kevin arc.

[@diamond_dude1063]

The ending battle being underwhelming is the only bad thing about this episode.

[@MarshallLeeA]

About Paradox taking the sample of a Celestialsapien, I REALLY wish we had a mini series about how the samples were collected, having Azmuth, Myaxx, Paradox and even Tetrax as the only characters from the main series, maybe even showing some prototype Unitrixes meant to test the DNA samples!!!

[@creativebeetle]

Would've been more likely to be a cool one-off episode, but I wholeheartedly agree with the concept.

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

Tetrax may not be able to

[@horseoperamarker]

@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec yeah because tetrax wasnt a good guy until OS

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

@@horseoperamarker The only alien I can see Tetrax help collecting are aliens that appear in omniverse as that would be enough time for him to help Azmuth since the time he knows who Azmuth is.

[@brawmankerlexterminateurde860]

When the fans are more smarter than the writers like seriously this should have been pinned by kuro to show that this could had been a good orgin story event

[@thisiscarlos3]

"Looks like they teleported back to Alien Force" that line killed me lmao also great breakdown as usual, and definitely watch a space odyssey. its a crazy movie, but easily one of my favourites!

[@Z_Saber]

It would of been funny if teen Ben started to say the self-destruct command the moment classic ben started to insult him

[@notdaniel2005]

28:14 "I like it with toes though" -Kuro The Artist 2022

[@StanHanrahan]

When i first saw this episode it fully restored my faith in Ben 10 after seeing classic ben return also that was so cool seeing you put all four of the heat blast transformations together for a comparison! nothing bets the classic one!

[@TheInkTank]

Classic definitely has the coolest looking transformations. And I agree seeing this episode made me love the show again back in the day after it started getting too inconsistent.

[@skylerfisher4347]

Now that I’ve fully watched the Breakdown, I have a few things to say. 1. Missed opportunity to have both a young 10 year old Ben, and have a Ben Ten Thousand return. Could you imagine all three of them teaming up to fight Greg? That could’ve been sick! 2. I hate how Ben immediately turns on Kevin in the final battle. Like Kevin didn’t even do anything that bad yet, he just beat up Greg and stole his powers. But Ben IMMEDIATELY turns on him. It could’ve been that Ben walks up and starts talking to Kevin about doing a good job and they all relax, but then Kevin sits silently for a moment, maybe his face visibly twisting and thinking, and then smacks Ben away and starts going crazy and THEN they turn on him. 3. I have a head canon that Celestialsapiens get bigger the older they get. The baby is tiny. Like, the size of an actual baby. But the mother is MASSIVE, like the size of a skyscraper. And then there’s all the others floating about, huge but not gargantuan like her. And then there’s Ben, just a big star bodied human sized one. There’s a pretty clear line of “Baby, to Teen, to adult, to elder” 4. I think those water air blasts are another combo power. Maybe he’s shooting scalding hot bursts of Steam at Gwen through his vents, which turn to water on impact with the ground because of density shifting. It would explain why she looked especially keen on dodging rather than shielding. Scalding water can hurt.

[@joshfarmer8408]

Speaking of missed opportunity, imagine if classic kevin and gwen were brought up in this episode. Seeing young kevin seeing his older self and being friendly with ben and gwen and seeing young gwen seeing how powerful she becomes and her improved relationship with ben and kevin would of been really interesting. Also imagine how cool it would of been to see the classic trio and the teen trio in one hero shot ready to pound Greg into a paste

[@iTsOfficiallyPluto]

Ben 10k has access to alien X abilities already it would be anticlimactic to bring him in because he can just use alien X

[@iTsOfficiallyPluto]

Also the other Alien X’s are the size of skyscrapers she’s more planet sized given the comparison of how big they are compared to his ship

[@Spider-Fan006]

Honestly I think Ultimate Alien should've had 4 seasons like Classic each focusing on a different arc season 1 and 2 is Agreggor season 3 is Ultimate Kevin and season 4 is Daggin although I think good non arc focused episodes like Prisoner 775 is Missing and Catch a Falling Star should be in season 4 as like filler episodes but the good kinda filler not the lame kinda ones think the Grounded episode in Alien Force season 2 now that was a good filler episode and to me that's what episodes like Prisoner 775 is Missing and Catch a Falling Star were just brilliant filler episodes that have no part in the season arc but are brilliant episodes focusing on darker topics that are treated with respect to me shows like Ben 10 Ultimate Alien Alien Force Avatar the Last Airbender etc handle dark topics in a way that doesn't require curse words or blood and gore the right way in my opinion that's what most R and PG-13 movies most TV-14 or TV-MA shows just don't get or do anyway sorry for the long comment I got a lot to say

[@Mohamad-m7md]

i disagree on ben 10k imagine he shows up and they still lose ? that's just so disappointing so it would've been a terrible idea

[@manuel7425]

Didn't expect the "Kevin!?!?!?" From Ken 10 to go this far. Need a counter for that now.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

This ones probably the best kevin edit yet!

[@isaacholston4241]

This was a banger! It really got me when Kuro inserted that audio clip of Ben 10,000 saying Kevin's name but with Greg saying it- 41:18. I shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did.

[@XenoVis]

23:45 that is actually amazing, great work!

[@MercenaryX84]

The episode that gave us the premise of Omniverse. No matter what mood I'm in, it's always a feel good episode that I check out. Greg disappears to the land of forgotten plot points and all the major Osmosian lore goes with him, soon to be replaced with the Rooters. Also, if we had found a way to bring Darkstar into the story earlier, imagine three people trying to absorb the power of the baby Celestialsapien.

[@yashjoshi6168]

What premise of omniverse?

[@abdullahamr9941]

@@yashjoshi6168 I think he means the kid Ben returning and switching between teenage Ben and kid Ben

[@yashjoshi6168]

@@abdullahamr9941 Yes that's possible but i think maybe he is talking about rooters arc which is hands down more logical than aggregor arc

[@johnnygyro2295]

1. You joke about "The Land of Forgotten Plot Points," but Grant Morrison apparently made one of Forgotten comic characters for DC. I'm not sure if it still exists, though given DC's multiple reboots. 2. If Darkstar joined the melee, things would've definitely gotten crazier. Maybe the Celestialsapien mom would've actually noticed as well, just to really add to the Chaos. 3. It's a bit of hot take, but thank God Aggregor is gone. The dude felt bland to me, and part of me prefers the Rooters.

[@ethansanchez6267]

I think in the episode where Ben has a nightmare controlled by Albedo, he meets aggregor and says something along the lines of "how did you escape the null void?" If you ask me, that's kind of a lame explanation as to what happened to him. I would've preferred if he had just been doomed to float around the Forge until he eventually starved or something.

[@DudeHunder]

Actually Ben being able to lock away a transformation is really impressive. It shows that Ben is learning more and more about the watch, eventually becoming BEN10K

[@cameronsydnor7330]

I feel like wildmutt should count as a mistransformation in this episode. While it’s hard to tell because the silhouette is a bit small in the shot it certainly didn’t look like wildmutt. To me it looked like he was trying to go upgrade and that’s probably how they got out of the barrier. I think the reason there isn’t a shot of them escaping the barrier is because you’re supposed to see the silhouette on the omnitrix and assume they used upgrade.

[@---oq5kb]

If it was upgrade he also would have fixed the ship, but the damage is there in a later shot of them traveling.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@@---oq5kb why couldn't teen ben use upgrade ? doesn't make much sense

[@SecretMagician]

​@__M7MD he hasn't reunlocked him yet. Ultimate Ben 10,000 did so in Season 3, along with every Classic series Era Alien aside from Feedback if you consider the entire franchise. Ben just chooses not to use or barely use his Classic aliens until Omniverse.

[@CRIS_IS_ON_INFINITE_EARTHS]

14:41 Aww Ultimate Greg is such a good Dad.

[@redlinrangerstudio5331]

23:41 nice editing work kuro. very nicely done.

[@KR91201]

The one thing that is most impressive about this episode is the fact that the Omnitrix link to primus works even outside the multiverse.

[@zahidulhaque1757]

The omnitrix does not actually always link up to primus, it has the aliens downloaded.

[@junglezone7323]

It doesnt need to be linked. Think of your computer having a certain file on it and you copy that file to your phone's internal storage. Once that's done, it doesn't need to be linked to your computer, you can access it through your phone.. Primus is the computer and the omnitrix is the phone.

[@KR91201]

@@zahidulhaque1757 it's the complete version you're talking about, it has all the DNA stored on it in digital format

[@geforce2ultra130]

@@KR91201 yes, ıts only works in the original omnitrix.

[@KR91201]

@@geforce2ultra130 and the ultimatrix as well

[@christopherkunz1855]

I think if the J.T. and Cash episode was cut and Forge of Creation was split into two episodes, then both would have the potential to be easy 25/25s

[@axelnilsson5124]

And maybe even reintroduce the echo echo clones detransformations

[@ravisuman.0409]

1:16 Personally,my Speculation would be that Dwayne Wanted to Do The Feedback Arc in UA itself, Derrick J Wyatt Said that Feedback Idea was Brought up by Dwayne (if not feedback, just Ben stopped using Omnitrix due to losing an Alien) Maybe Dwayne Mcduffie wanted Cthulu arc in AF Season 3 and Feedback Story in UA season or Just Bits of it teasing it in the seasons

[@rhuannzito1069]

22:13 it's probably been commented on a lot but you have to love kuuro just changing the video from "enjoying a ben 10 epsode" to "let's fucking fix this shit"

[@theoverthinker1891]

I actually have a theory that when celestialsapiens are infants that is the time when their personalities are being formed, and when they're in that state other celestialsapiens form a barrier around it blocking it's influence on the omniverse. (Editor's note: what if that same baby eventually grew up to be the one that fights ben?)

[@Lord_Z560]

I love how halfway through the episode, Kuro just starts animation editing to prove a point.

[@shiftless6421]

We always appreciate the small Kuro editing moments

[@christianparrish3292]

Yep

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

You mean I* always appreciate but I do agree.

[@tylerr2016]

I like to think that Paradox is able to bend the rules so while he can travel through Time and Space he can use technicalities like entering a celestial Sapian since they are made of space. Also the way they talk about it makes it seem like Paradox got a restraining order against celestial Sapians

[@kidtruck9157]

More like they got one against him.

[@tylerr2016]

@@kidtruck9157 oh I wrote that wrong lol, but yeah I meant that. Also the joke of Paradox being a Celestial Offender is there but idk how to do anything with

[@BossKing1243]

Kuro got that GTA barber fr

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

fax

[@AT7outof10]

To posit a theory as to explain the birth of a Celestialsapien; there's a story called "The Egg" the channel Kurtzkazagt did a video animating and narrating it, if you want to experience it. That is what I personally believe is going on with newly born Alien Xs.

[@strongerthanever2039]

4:17 Maybe that's what Celestialsapiens hate Paradox for? I mean he kinda kidnapped them to outside of their own universe. Not that they couldn't come back or something, they probably realised it would be better for everybody this way. But they still could be upset. 10:02 I actually like that one a lot too!

[@MrWhatdafuBOOM]

*HOT TAKE(?):* I liked Alien X better when Ben had to debate with the personalities. The fact that he gained control over this omnipotent form kinda sucked out the tension for me, cause in my mind Alien X was always there as the trump card from that point onward. Also, the way Ben achieved it doesn't make sense to me. Ben convinces Bellicus and Serena to let him take over so they can argue as much as they like, when in UAF it was established that they DIDN'T want to debate anymore and finally carry out motions themselves. Plus, that chin in OV pretty much ruins the silhouette imo.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

that doesn't matter either way because loses control over alien x anyways.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

hot take i hate alien x and the Francise could've done just fine without him

[@merchantziro4285]

Honestly I agree with most of this except for the chin part, purely because I find it hilarious.

[@leoangelo9052]

30:39 Young Ben didn't need HeatBlast for that Burn!🤣

[@t.i.5528]

I love how Paradox believes in Ben much more than Azmuth. Especially considering Paradox is a stand-in for Doctor Who so you could almost consider it one iconic sci fi hero believing in another.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

paradox's accent confuses me what even is it ?

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@InevitableOption-ic2vx To me he sounded both British and American

[@luish8056]

I love it whenever Kuro just starts editing episode bits in the midst of the review.

[@tylercoon1791]

‘How does classic Ben have the protections?’ Paradox knew UAF Ben would lean on the barrier, he probably also knew classic would jump through too

[@zumby101]

@11:00 in retrospect, any time they talk about ben's grand destiny i always just assume that theyre talking about the end of omni-verse where he and rook stop maltruant from interrupting the big bang. Only because that in canon that's the last big thing we see this ben do and yeah saving the universe from not existing at all does seem pretty big

[@ultima1033]

"This man is universal Wily Wonka" A very funny, yet very apt description. Lol

[@pandamonium9529]

I am always impressed by how often you reanimate the scenes. You obviously knew exactly what to do and even showed us what you did. One of my favorite breakdowns as far as Kuro and the episode.

[@xandersmile]

14:20 "Into the cosmic belly button" They probably went into a celestial sapiens ass LOL

[@Neutral_Tired]

The way I see it, Alien X's meeting space is a metaphysical space. Nobody but Paradox would be able to invade it by any means but, because Paradox kinda sits outside existence already, he can go places that don't technically exist

[@HotDogTimeMachine385]

It's weird the episode doesn't mention the reason Greg wants to absorb a baby Celstialsapien because babies don't develop Serena and Bellicus, meaning there's nothing to stop him from doing anything he wants.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Pretty sure they do. It's just not in this edit

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@@HerohammerStudios no it's never mentioned in the episode

[@calvinkopp1735]

Can’t believe this episode came out on my birthday. Talk about great gifts on perfect timing!

[@ghost_rain1996]

34:58 the power of plot is a very powerful thing lol

[@mememan0069]

19:46 I think this Ben is post-Destroy All Aliens, because that’ where a supposed scratch guard making the Omnitrix white fell off.

[@axelnilsson5124]

It didn’t fall off until the recalibration

[@axelnilsson5124]

@InevitableOption-ic2vx they probably couldn’t recolor it from green to grey on the model

[@axelnilsson5124]

@InevitableOption-ic2vx that’s more of an art style thing as Omniverse has a much different art style than the first 3 series’s

[@shyguygaming5397]

Dang, you were dedicated to that Omnitrix timeout bit.

[@MilczekHD]

"I would never turn into anything that lame." Says the kid that regularly mistakingly turns himself into a nerdy frog.

[@ATVPokemonMaster_02]

I really loved how they finally explained that Young Ben is not a immature jerk he's aware of consequences

[@CathTish]

I actually belive that the blue aura around the baby Celestial-Sapian is what is holding back the baby's cosmic power. And when it fully matures, they can go out and debate and stuff.

[@כיףבעמהערוץהרשמי]

32:15 10 year old me seeing the UAF aliens after watching classic

[@panoslazaridis9991]

Aggregor has an omnitrix badge in his chest 39:41 This one of the best episodes ever should have a characterization 5 in my opinion. Love this episode

[@ATVPokemonMaster_02]

41:08 My head canon for Kevin going berserk and mentally unstable was because of Unstable design of Ultimatrix or in Azmuth's word *Terrible workmanship* !!!

[@ninjamasterfilms1564]

My theory about how Agregore had so many robots is that he forced it into the chronorandomisation barrier, and it was sent right back out, but duplicated. It works differently than organic matter, as shown when nothing happens to the ship, but Ben knocks it and a younger version of himself appears, so maybe an AI has a mix between the two.

[@shadowanders]

29:05 so my theory is that his shirt was a bellview highschool Soccer goalie jersey cuz in episode 1 of AF he’s wearing a similar shirt but with a number on the back (10 because of course it is) which is probably just an updated version of their goalie uniform

[@LoneWolf-on8ht]

3:55 I think it more accurate to say that in the Ben 10 universe is the material reality where they can see, touch, taste, hear and smell. While in the Forge of Creation is the godly realm (kinda like alien heaven for gods) where EVERY life can't make a contact there.

[@mastergreeen1385]

9:56 yeah I definitely agree with this theory, it's honestly a lot better than imagining one of Azmuth's "mosquito-bots" poking at a Celestialsapien like an actual bug

[@totallynotseihat9753]

I remember this episode being one of the first instance that introduced me to a place outside of the universe. Like everyone else, i used to think that the universe is everything, encompassing every part of reality, but now i understand that our universe is a small part of our multiverse

[@abrahamnarvaez1730]

I think the sphere around the baby is to prevent it from warping reality and the mother is meant to contain it until it matures enough to have at least two personalities to keep itself in check. Also what if each alien x is tied to a universe and vulnerable to capture so paradox put them in a separate universe to keep them safe while in debate. Naturally they were against being moved against their will but saw the practicality of it so they made a treaty with paradox. He can’t be within 500 light years of them but they will remain in the separate universe.

[@marcusknightley]

After seeing a baby Alien X, it reminded me of the other baby aliens that Ben turned into with the fountain of youth fiasco. Baby aliens would be an interesting drawing compilation video (assuming it hasn’t already been done). And not just small, cute babies but evolutionary/metamorphosis/pupa-cocoon kind of stuff. I have one idea for the thep khufan: they are born head first…and only head first. The body is just a bunch of unwoven tendrils, making the baby look like an octopus or jellyfish. From birth, the thep khufan develop muscle (or linen) memory, learning to form their bodies with complex weaving techniques, and stretching their tendrils as they grow up. And like breaking bones, building muscles, or losing teeth, tearing their bandages increase strength and durability as they regenerate.

[@axelnilsson5124]

Basically having Ash draw concepts for adolescent aliens

[@shawnlord3419]

27:15 Galactus: Am I a joke to you?

[@tatersalad76]

I don't get why Ben didn't make a deal with Serena and Bellicus that he'd give them like 2 hours every week just to settle a few debates between them so they'd like him a little more

[@mwizachihana9551]

@TheGlassesPro . And what's the name of this fic

[@miguelangelhernandezsolis7849]

Because the risk of them don't let him go

[@vaginalarthritis1753]

Or better yet, make a deal with them to give his conscience immortality, freeze time outside their debate zone and work on the backlog of motions they have...

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@vaginalarthritis1753 as if ben’s got the patience for that, or any mortal mind for that matter. They have million upon millions of years worth of unresolved debates. Ben would get so bored he’d fall into a Fugue state in like a half hour

[@brawmankerlexterminateurde860]

They will forget about it probably

[@shikaitsukiba863]

Every time I hear the Kevin audio file I just start laughing 🤣

[@donovanlarsen7982]

I like Kuro’s idea of Ben using all five of the Andromeda aliens back to back against Aggregor for their final battle. I mean, if they lose it’s the end of the universe, so I’m kind of surprised Asmuth didn’t give him Master Control just for the fight.

[@samdalseide5060]

24:55 I'm pretty sure this counts as a mistransformation. I can't tell if the screen shows Upgrade or Wildmutt; if it's Upgrade, he gets Wildmutt, and if it shows Wildmutt, he gets Wildmutt, but wanted Upgrade.

[@aravindarao9523]

23:30 appreciate the work

[@BorisTheAnimal-p5y]

12:16When asked if the "next universe over" was our universe, Dwayne McDuffie replied with "It would've been funny if it was..."

[@wheresprototype3507]

10:51 I believe this was decided to ben causing the big bang, as there is nothing above the being that created existence

[@skibot9974]

I have to applaud CN for managing to keep young Ben a surprise in the promos to my recollection

[@XavierPokedex]

I like how you mentioned that Frankenstrike would be a good alien to use against Greg. Most people underestimate him